could be possible if Rev picked up the pace. So
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Just curious to hear what people think.
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actually had examples that you could cut and paste
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a stack, osmosis would take care of the rest, no more posts to the list
asking something very basic. Amending the docs to include 'put' and a
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Good one, Eric!
I didn't even try that because the docs seem clearly to limit this
to the current card/stack.
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if the short name of this cd of stack blahblah is card name
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Jacque...
Um, actually, foregroundcolor controls both text and border color.
bordercolor only works on buttons and scrollbars according to the
docs.
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so once again, it is up to the initiator of the thread to understand
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the kind of data you give it --even if you switched data types the
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Well-said, Preston! I'm adding this to my quotation list for my
positive reminders of why I do what I do.
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Large companies can overcome that resistance. Small companies are
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Here, here! Bravo! Well-done and badly needed.
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Really? Man, I knew that guy when he was at Macromedia. I can't
remember his name off hand, but that's a startling story.
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Gray Matter used to be that source, but they closed their doors
many years ago, and today
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in revolution too??
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On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Frank R wrote:
But, the door opens to Much Greater revenue when you have scenarios
like - 0$ to use the IDE idefinitely, and $X when you deploy your
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folks who
are developing with Revolution and Valentina, or those of you who
would like
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an offsite BOF. Who needs IDG?
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I should
say, though, that I tried to set up a BOF last year through IDG, but
got absolutely no response.
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Good pointer, Chipp. Thanks.
AJAX is definitely simple in its essence. It's the widgety stuff that
gets complex, but with several good to great AJAX libs already
circulating, there's no need to roll your own with *that* complicated
stuff.
Still scrubbin' (with appropriate apologies to
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Doesn't the built-in xmlrpc stuff in Rev work quite well? Or does it
just need a better abstraction layer to make it more usable?
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top. There's no SOAP though, and no server side libraries, but
third parties can provide that in the future.
Cheers
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Doesn't the built-in xmlrpc stuff in Rev work quite well? Or does
it just need a better abstraction
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on which my security info is stored and secured.
There are several technologies out there that do this now.
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On Nov 16, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
So, my bottom line on *[the local storage] * issue: AJAX apps have
a solid edge.
Agreed, but only once wireless becomes universally available.
That's going to be some time coming
--or the other way around?
Dennis
On Nov 16, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:
Good job focusing this aspect of the discussion, Geoff.
On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
So if AJAX apps are secure but need local storage, and Rev apps
have local storage but need security, which
and
which
used biometrics for access).
As for your face, well, there's a doctor somewhere in Europe I
think who
will shortly (within a few years) attempt a facial transplant.
Already
done it with rats and the like. I kid you not.
Judy
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occur
Richard
This thread can end here any time it wants. I stopped being proactive
on it a long time ago. I just keep answering questions people post.
:-)
Dan
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Lots of my colleagues tell me I'm insufficiently paranoid.
Maybe I am.
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On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:
I'm not concerned about Internet wires and signals - I happily use
Internet banking over public wifi - it's getting the data from the
keyboard to the wire, or
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The first web search engine seems to be a difficult one to track
down, however...
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Agreed. That and security are the issues and they have been more
than adequately addressed for a long time now. The omigod my data
isn't on my own server alarm is a red herring. Any company that
sees the advantage in distributed browser-based apps can easily
of
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I'm fine
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, where all that is really happening is a very
little bit of data is moving via an XML protocol from one machine
to another, is costing everybody, big time...he said don't go there!
just FYI.
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I almost labeled this post off-topic since our purpose
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There may be a clue in the fact that it chops at the first comma.
Perhaps that's set as a delimiter somewhere?
Dan
On Nov 11, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
I am using a routine discuss on this list sometime back to kill
vertical white space (extra cr's) at the beginning and end
Thanks for the pointer, Xavier. Some cogent comments in amongst the
usual /. chaff.
Dan
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fuel for the ajax fire ;)
http://books.slashdot.org/books/05/11/09/1555231.shtml?tid=156tid=6
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Maybe it's a thin client that overate last night.
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On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Given that a script interpreter will reside client-side in either
the browser, a Ruby interpreter, a Python engine, or a Rev engine,
the difference between thick and thin in this
if you are
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Any interest?
Sure - would be prepared to top up the pot a little too,
Great. I'll check back and if we gen up enough interest, I'll figure
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On Nov 10, 2005, at 3:18 PM, K J wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks Dan for creating your e-book on
Revolution. I just
started reading it and I have to say so far I have learned alot
from it. I
recomend this book to
David
NOt without some understanding of what kwote does.
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on folder_Open someFolder
replace / with : in someFolder
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On Nov 9, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Ton Kuypers wrote:
Dan,
I'd love to try it, but where can I find it on your site?
greetings,
Ton
On 9-nov-05, at 23:30, Dan Shafer wrote:
Or you could use Altuit's wonderful
The fact that one such effort failed -- or even that a bunch of such
efforts failed -- is irrelevant in the face of the new market
realities. Particularly the ad supported software model is one that I
think has a tremendous amount of potential to be disruptive.
Some people may well want to
:
As long as folks use local data, there will be desktop apps.
There is no necessary connection between where data is and where the
app is. That's just today's temporary model.
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this is simple, just have not figured it out. I can send
commands to pre-existing apps and make them sing and dance. But
I've no clue how to send commands when there is no dictionary.
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