Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-17 Thread Ray & Jean
, 2007 5:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid Before spending $2000 on a HPOL omni, and $1 on legal fees, try $400 on a Cavity Filter. Worked well for me in a similar situation on my Waverider system. Pete Davis NoDial.net Ray & Jean wrote: Hello List We have an interference problem

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-17 Thread Pete Davis
Before spending $2000 on a HPOL omni, and $1 on legal fees, try $400 on a Cavity Filter. Worked well for me in a similar situation on my Waverider system. Pete Davis NoDial.net Ray & Jean wrote: Hello List We have an interference problem come up this week that we have been unable to resol

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's nice to see them do the right thing. Too bad it had to happen that way. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Ray & Jean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFI

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Tim Wolfe
Here is a link to the specific page at Broadband Reports: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/82238?brk=2 You can bet there was a good reason that made it to the front page there too. ;-) Ryan Morgan wrote: Dylan, Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It was

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Morgan
, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same problem from happening on your towers. I would bet all walmarts will

RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Mark McElvy
Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update For those

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Langseth
te > the power of the internet or press. > Thanks > Ray Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walm

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ray & Jean
PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Morgan
Dylan, Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread. There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one thing , but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get some inf

RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray & Jean Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we fin

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Bob Moldashel
That's great Ray Can you post the contact info here in case someone else runs into this issue?? Thanks and good luck with them Bob Ray & Jean wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment

RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick
That rocks! Great work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray & Jean Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid proble

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-14 Thread Jack Unger
Ray, Congratulations on the sudden positive change in WalMarts behavior. Please keep us updated. If any wireless issues or questions come up during discussions with their engineer please post those questions or issues. Thanks, jack Ray & Jean wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-14 Thread Carl A jeptha
Also report back what actually was done as I also have a walmart and a 900 system. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Dylan Oliver wrote: Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-14 Thread Dylan Oliver
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to sniffing out the f

Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-14 Thread RickG
Wow, so the bad PR worked, eh? When you meet their guy, let him know "we just want to get along ;)" - get his name & number, invite him to dinner and make friends. It's always good to get a guy on the inside! On 3/14/07, Ray & Jean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Everyone Wanted to update you o

[WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-14 Thread Ray & Jean
Hello Everyone Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full power and used circular polarity.They stated they were oper

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
neral List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid think this'll be true @ my local wal mart too ? I'm about 1000 feet from one. Just do a 900 mhz survey in their parking lot ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rwf Sent: Sunday, Ma

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Rick Smith
st' Subject: RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid Which quote from the FCC regs? The one that says "You must accept any interference" or the one that says "you may not cause any interference to a licensed service" If you can show them a license, you might have them on the second one. U

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Peter R.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: In the end, they'll get theirs. What goes around comes around. Someone will finally have had enough of their arrogant attitudes and things will change. I know they are building stores all over the place, and they are always packed. But someone somehow will find a

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Joe Laura
Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid > Come on Marlon... even if all 100 customers went in and complained, the > manager at Walmart is going to say "You'll have to call corporate... > there is nothing I can do". Sending letters, going in person, e

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Joe Laura
Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid > Come on Marlon... even if all 100 customers went in and complained, the > manager at Walmart is going to say "You'll have to call corporate... > there is nothing I can do". Sending letters, going in person, e

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
try. I try very hard not to make decisions that take away anyone else's ability to be helpful. marlon - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wa

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Patrick Leary
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature. So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it may not be

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread RickG
e > to talk to your customers, just at a slower speed. Have you pulled > out a spectrum analyzer and looked at what's really going on yet? > > laters, > marlon > > - Original Message - From: "Ray & Jean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA Ge

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread rwf
you want to be squeaky clean. Where is the store in relation to your affected tower site? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid How far i

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Travis Johnson
system isn't fhss as you should still be able to talk to your customers, just at a slower speed. Have you pulled out a spectrum analyzer and looked at what's really going on yet? laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Ray & Jean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid Travis Thanks for the input .that is a possible solution but not one that could be implemented quickly or easily.It would require a new Hpol omni about $2200 a climb

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Rick Smith
tell your customers to go to wal-mart and complain J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid The bigger issue is are your customers going to wait WEEKS while

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread wispa
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:12:13 -0400, Rick Smith wrote > no, 900 mhz rfid would be 20mhz bands. They MUST be exceeding EIRP, > tho, because I've never seen problems with rfid at close ranges like > that, and not having good reads with normal, or even less than > normal power. Problem is, rfid is

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread George Rogato
Certified letter or bb gun, your choice... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS i

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Ryan Langseth
gt; How far away is this from you ? > > > > > > > > I guarantee it's a piece of bad equipment - cable or such - on their > > > > end, > > > > "leaking". > > > > > > > > Certified letter or bb gun, your choice...

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread JohnnyO
Lots of C4 ? Could be a solution... Right Rich Harnish ? :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray & Jean Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] walmart rfid Hello List We have an interfer

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Travis Johnson
ob Moldashel Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature. So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it may not be possible to turn down the powe

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Ryan Langseth
;) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Bob Moldashel > > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 2:41 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid > > > > > >

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Travis Johnson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature. So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be that simple. A certified letter from an attor

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Travis Johnson
roper way to resolve the problem but it might encourge them to be better rf neighbors maybe. Thanks Ray Hill - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfi

RE: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Rick Smith
: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid If their signal occupies the whole band it is probably FHSS in nature. So changing to a 5 or 10 Mhz. channel will not be possible. Also, it may not be possible to turn down the power. So it may not be that simple. A certified letter from an

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Matt
How far is this from your site? Are they exceding 36db ERP? If they are exceding ERP and you can prove it by taking spectrum analyser out there have your lawyer send a certified letter to ADT and Walmart manager with this info and quotes from FCC rules and regulations. If there not exceding any

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Bob Moldashel
WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid Hi, You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference. Travis Microserv Ray & Jean wrote: Hello List We have an interfere

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Ray & Jean
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid Hi, You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference. Travis Microserv Ray & Jea

Re: [WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, You may want to try changing polarity and see if that helps. Often going from vertical to horizontal will make a big difference. Travis Microserv Ray & Jean wrote: Hello List We have an interference problem come up this week that we have been unable to resolve.Hopefully someone here has

[WISPA] walmart rfid

2007-03-11 Thread Ray & Jean
Hello List We have an interference problem come up this week that we have been unable to resolve.Hopefully someone here has some input on how to resolve it.The problem is walmart installed a rfid scanning system at there loading dock which instantly raised the noise floor at our 900 mhz waverid