[313] good life

2002-05-24 Thread qwerty
awile ago i was at this rave where a heard
a really great remix of inner city's good life.
it was a bit nu jazz / broken beat stayla...

does anyone know any remix that might sound like that?


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[313] good life

2002-05-24 Thread qwerty
awile ago i was at this rave where a heard
a really great remix of inner city's good life.
it was a bit nu jazz / broken beat stayla...

does anyone know any remix that might sound like that?

p.s. the highlight of the track is when it stops...
and then a really great piano sounds boom out and
the voice starts singing : good life goodlife... :-)


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Re: [313] good life

2002-05-24 Thread Maxim Sullivan
it was most probably the version Thomas Schumacher did for his album
electric avenue.
Best track on the imho.
Think its been released on a single as the version I also heard recently was
a lot longer than the one on the album.

max

p.s just seen the new star wars and YODA IS THE MUSTARD :)

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 awile ago i was at this rave where a heard
 a really great remix of inner city's good life.
 it was a bit nu jazz / broken beat stayla...

 does anyone know any remix that might sound like that?

 p.s. the highlight of the track is when it stops...
 and then a really great piano sounds boom out and
 the voice starts singing : good life goodlife... :-)


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Re: [313] last day of pemf

2002-05-24 Thread ollie
I will also put ya'll on the list.

The first 3000 people to send me an email will get on the list!

Actually if you email me I will put you on the PEMF monday list and the
forward music mailing list and you'll find out about all the cool parties
and records from forward music.

Good trade?

Please only respond to either Fred or myself.

cheers,
ollie
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www.paxahau.com

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 I'll see what I can do for you guys.  It probably won't be a problem.

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  set ;-)
 
  jim
 
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  that sux
 
  :(
 
  I'd like to be on the list please. :)
 
  -Joe
 
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  Its guest list only.
 
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  whats the rsvp about here?
 
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Re: [313] this will be the most played song this year at DEMF 2002

2002-05-24 Thread Cowgirl
kick ass!  all I need is the price is right theme song beating my brain for
days.

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 http://www.kicken.com/audio/prijs.je.rijk-patrick.kicken.mp3



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[313] FA ebay

2002-05-24 Thread Mxyzptlk
The Stickmen, Geez-N- Gosh, Closer Music, The Advent, more. No reserves. 
Thanks.

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Re: [313] this will be the most played song this year at DEMF 2002

2002-05-24 Thread :P
NOOO
OO

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 kick ass!  all I need is the price is right theme song beating my brain
for
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  http://www.kicken.com/audio/prijs.je.rijk-patrick.kicken.mp3
 
 
 
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[313] Museum will showcase techno's Detroit roots (det.freepres)

2002-05-24 Thread Dave Barnett

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/emfex23_20020523.htm

and 

http://www.detroitnews.com/2002/entertainment/0205/23/d01-495683.htm

has anybody taken a photo of all these places, and documented details
online. Apart from the fantastic 'fabulous ruins' site?


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[313] john acquaviva on monday?

2002-05-24 Thread :P
www.jacq.com

perhaps a surpise on monday night


h

where?

-Joe



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RE: [313] RE: Liquid Metal Meltdown

2002-05-24 Thread Odeluga, Ken
 if you're gonna call it techno, know what techno is. buy some $hit from
 detroit and then you'll find out

Sorry for being more than nanosecs late in cyberspace but for sake of
completion: a snippet of that line is also used on Laurent Garnier's
Kallit (circa 1998?). It's sort of electro. The words Call It are used
as a hook, the whole of the first sentence is used at the intro.

S.Potter

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Re: [313] john acquaviva on monday?

2002-05-24 Thread g

might have something to do with our friends at the pemf

At 2:00 AM -0400 5/24/02, :P wrote:

www.jacq.com

perhaps a surpise on monday night


h

where?

-Joe



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[313] psychic tv feat jack the tab - tune in

2002-05-24 Thread armin holzgethan
is this a fred gianelli production?

armin


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[313] psychic tv feat jack the tab - tune in

2002-05-24 Thread armin holzgethan
oops, it should have been _fred giannelli_ of course

sorry

armin

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Re: [313] NEWS ALERT:DEMF2002:MATRIX REBORN

2002-05-24 Thread robin pinning

 Catalog No.: MATRIX 6
 Artist: Sean Deason
 Title: Love Alarm E.P.
 
 The Love Alarm e.p. is a very upbeat DJ friendly project containing
 very catchy hooks, loops and crowd pleasing breakdowns, buildups and
 filtering effects. This record will be taking dance floors by storm
 worldwide and is sure to end up on many a DJ's top ten lists and mix
 shows. This e.p. is Sean Deason's first original recording project in  5
 years! It marks his return to making bangin' tracks with catchy grooves
 for DJ's and fans of detroit flavored electronic dance music.


ok you've definitely got my attention. any sound snippets online to wet my
appetite?

cheers

robin...


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Re: [313] NEWS ALERT:DEMF2002:MATRIX REBORN

2002-05-24 Thread Christian Bloch
sean, any chance you will save one for me for when i come to the D in one
and a half months?

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  Catalog No.: MATRIX 6
  Artist: Sean Deason
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RE: [313] metro times article - rant

2002-05-24 Thread plaztikjezuz


 hopefully next year she won't be involved.
 
only if there is a god, and this god you pray to at starbuckks.

scotto


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[313] MATT BORGHI:QUIET AMBIENT SHOW:TONIGHT: 313.JAC -DETROIT

2002-05-24 Thread matt borghi
::ANNOUNCEMENT::

Matt Borghi will be doing a live solo ambient set at the 313.JAC in
Detroit. He will be accompanied by Geoff Nostrant (Silvercord), and Tracey
Peters (Mutual Hate Society). This show is certain to be an awesome
experiment in contemplative ambient sound...try and make it if you can. You
can get directions to the show here:
http://www.mattborghi.com/performance.htm

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[313] akufen

2002-05-24 Thread Zachary Lubin
highly recommended..

akufen-my way   force inc.

really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.

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[313] testing 1-2

2002-05-24 Thread Jones, George
Mic check 1-2, check 1-2...

Is this thing on???

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Re: [313] akufen

2002-05-24 Thread Data General
!

That's really funny that you call it timeless.  I just reviewed that
record for next week's dustedmag.com and the review was about it being a
timeless album.

It is, though. It's really funky in a way that doesn't scream 2002!
The samples are taken from broadcasts picked up on a shortwave radio in
northern canada, and transformed into pseudo-house, pseudo-giorgio moroder
dance hits.

I second the high recommendation!

More on the topic of detroit, i just got the arpanet record.  Upon one
listen I was very pleased!  Nothing I wouldn't have expected. . .



ben








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 highly recommended..

 akufen-my way   force inc.

 really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.

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Re: [313] akufen

2002-05-24 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 09:41 AM 5/24/2002, Zachary Lubin wrote:

highly recommended..

akufen-my way   force inc.

really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.


Track 7 is incredible. [EMAIL PROTECTED] has some nice, rare stuff by him, 
Brinkmann and the whole Mutek crowd. Some 12s, some cdrs.

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[313] arpanet

2002-05-24 Thread Niko Tzoukmanis
speaking of arpanet, it was reviewed in a free german
music magazine called intro, and got very negative
comments, and the inclusion of 'one good track' was
called a coincidence !!
they also feature 10 guest reviewers per issue who
rate it, it had the lowest rank and was even given
1/10 by the one and only... thomas fehlmann !!!
i was really shocked by that, cos i think it's a good
one, probably not as kickin as jap telecom, but
still very very good...

Data General wrote:

 !

 That's really funny that you call it timeless.  I just reviewed that
 record for next week's dustedmag.com and the review was about it being a
 timeless album.

 It is, though. It's really funky in a way that doesn't scream 2002!
 The samples are taken from broadcasts picked up on a shortwave radio in
 northern canada, and transformed into pseudo-house, pseudo-giorgio moroder
 dance hits.

 I second the high recommendation!

 More on the topic of detroit, i just got the arpanet record.  Upon one
 listen I was very pleased!  Nothing I wouldn't have expected. . .

 ben

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  highly recommended..
 
  akufen-my way   force inc.
 
  really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.
 
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[313] DEMF Webcast

2002-05-24 Thread John Sokolowski

313ers around the world,
It looks like you will be able to listen AND watch the DEMF this weekend.

Check out: http://www.electronicmusicfest.com/

Look for me, I'll be wearing my cape :)

Cheers,
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RE: [313] akufen

2002-05-24 Thread Grammenos, Peter

Just curious, is the song Deck the house on there? 

If not, I am going to have to ask a certain someone for my record back ;)

313 Related --- T-10 hours till i'm in the D and off to the UR Cabaret 

-Pete

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At 09:41 AM 5/24/2002, Zachary Lubin wrote:
highly recommended..

akufen-my way   force inc.

really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.

Track 7 is incredible. [EMAIL PROTECTED] has some nice, rare stuff by him, 
Brinkmann and the whole Mutek crowd. Some 12s, some cdrs.
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RE: [313] akufen

2002-05-24 Thread Data General
it is!





On Fri, 24 May 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote:


 Just curious, is the song Deck the house on there?

 If not, I am going to have to ask a certain someone for my record back ;)

 313 Related --- T-10 hours till i'm in the D and off to the UR Cabaret 

 -Pete

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 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Zachary Lubin; Global Techno; 313 List
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 At 09:41 AM 5/24/2002, Zachary Lubin wrote:
 highly recommended..
 
 akufen-my way   force inc.
 
 really inspirational production and some timeless pieces.

 Track 7 is incredible. [EMAIL PROTECTED] has some nice, rare stuff by him,
 Brinkmann and the whole Mutek crowd. Some 12s, some cdrs.
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[313] Guest list closed

2002-05-24 Thread ollie
My guest list is now closed, everyone who responded is on it, I will send
you a confirmation email soon.

Thanks,
ollie
www.forwardmusic.com

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Subject: Re: [313] last day of pemf


 I will also put ya'll on the list.

 The first 3000 people to send me an email will get on the list!

 Actually if you email me I will put you on the PEMF monday list and the
 forward music mailing list and you'll find out about all the cool parties
 and records from forward music.

 Good trade?

 Please only respond to either Fred or myself.

 cheers,
 ollie
 www.forwardmusic.com
 PEMF - Monday - forward music live with huren and ollie
 www.paxahau.com

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 Subject: Re: [313] last day of pemf


  I'll see what I can do for you guys.  It probably won't be a problem.
 
  telepathic regards,
  fRED
 
 
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  May 26  Somewhere in Detroit @ P.E.M.F. (Paxahau Electronic Music
 Festival)
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  on 5/23/02 7:45 PM, The Deliverator at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   Well, if we are adding people to the list, ya might as well put me on
 there
   too :-)  Either that or Have Fred G. show up at my hotel for a nice
 private
   set ;-)
  
   jim
  
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   that sux
  
   :(
  
   I'd like to be on the list please. :)
  
   -Joe
  
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   Its guest list only.
  
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   whats the rsvp about here?
  
   can someone explain?
  
   -Joe
  
  
  
  
 
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[313] C-POP TONIGHT

2002-05-24 Thread john arnold

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[313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Dan Sicko

from McCollum's article in the Free Press today
(http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf24_20020524.htm):

Scanning the weekend's lineup of 68 artists, some clear trends 
emerge. There's less IDM, or intelligent dance music, the sort of 
stuff favored by Craig. There's more straight-up club sounds.


This is exactly what irks me ... so Jazzanova, P'taah and Titonton 
are considered IDM?  Can't play their music in a club? Hmm.


Not to start a genre-splinter thread, but this type of talk about 
this year's festival makes me ill. 


-d

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RE: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Jones, George
BUT!!! You're still going, now aren't you?

:)

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] ugh


from McCollum's article in the Free Press today
(http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf24_20020524.htm):

Scanning the weekend's lineup of 68 artists, some clear trends 
emerge. There's less IDM, or intelligent dance music, the sort of 
stuff favored by Craig. There's more straight-up club sounds.

This is exactly what irks me ... so Jazzanova, P'taah and Titonton 
are considered IDM?  Can't play their music in a club? Hmm.

Not to start a genre-splinter thread, but this type of talk about 
this year's festival makes me ill. 

-d

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RE: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Dan Sicko

3 acts each day = 9 out of 68.

not telling which ones I'm checking out.  :P

At 2:44 PM -0400 5/24/02, Jones, George wrote:

BUT!!! You're still going, now aren't you?

:)

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from McCollum's article in the Free Press today
(http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf24_20020524.htm):

Scanning the weekend's lineup of 68 artists, some clear trends
emerge. There's less IDM, or intelligent dance music, the sort of
stuff favored by Craig. There's more straight-up club sounds.

This is exactly what irks me ... so Jazzanova, P'taah and Titonton
are considered IDM?  Can't play their music in a club? Hmm.

Not to start a genre-splinter thread, but this type of talk about
this year's festival makes me ill.

-d

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Re: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 01:31 PM 5/24/2002, you wrote:

from McCollum's article in the Free Press today
(http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf24_20020524.htm):

Scanning the weekend's lineup of 68 artists, some clear trends emerge. 
There's less IDM, or intelligent dance music, the sort of stuff favored by 
Craig. There's more straight-up club sounds.


This is exactly what irks me ... so Jazzanova, P'taah and Titonton are 
considered IDM?  Can't play their music in a club? Hmm.


Not to start a genre-splinter thread, but this type of talk about this 
year's festival makes me ill.

-d


Additionally, it seems to pigeonhole the fans who would attend the fest as 
being tilted to one side of the musical spectrum and Carl on another. Carl 
simply recognized the diversity of the electronic music scene and tried to 
reflect that understanding and respect for the fans by adding acts like 
Tortoise and Ae, etc. as well as DeGiorgio, Mixmaster Mike, Perspects, etc. 
The article quotes a Billboard writer  lauding the fest for providing fans 
a chance to hear a bunch of these acts live in one place. Maybe some of 
those heading down who can't even tell you the names of the founders 
would have  a broader vision of how Detroit has had an impact on electronic 
music if that type of scope was more accurately reflected in the choices 
made this year.
I'll be there...can't wait to see deepchord, Sterac, Stewart 
Walker, Clinton, Tejada, Mad Professor, The Advent, Rick Wade, Grant, 
Huckaby,Boo Williams, Juan, Oldham, Auxmen, etc., but it's hard not to 
notice that the lineup might have been  a lot stronger - especially given 
the steam built up over the past few years. What happened last year is 
truly sad...not just for those in the know, but also for those who might 
not ever know what they're missing. Additionally, I will miss the on-site 
Record Time tent.
I doubt the vibe which permeated the air at DEMF I (which was conspicuously 
absent last year) will ever return in full force. Some kinds of damage 
don't clock in crowd numbers, sposorship or on other empirical registers.


jeff



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Re: [313] ughDEMF

2002-05-24 Thread nancy mitchell
UGH dan I cant make it this year afterall :-(
I hope you all enjoy it despite all the madness...
I will be checking out some of the NEW YORK-TOKYO
(www.newyork-tokyo.org/begin.html)music festival..
(here in NYC) I complain about this festival not being
diverse enough!! I guess that is a complaint most
festivals hear huh?

HAVE FUN ALL!!

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Re: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Fred Heutte
I have to agree with Dan, the only reason I brought up the IDM/dance
distinction yesterday because it was portrayed that way to some degree
in the MT article (for understandable reasons).

OK, how about this:

George Clinton and P-Funk:  IDM or dance.  Discuss.


PS I liked George's notion of all this better.  He said the paper
this morning that it all has to do with affinity for your DNA.
And that he tried to go to the festival last year but it was too
crowded to get up close, so he had to make better arrangements 
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Re: [313] ugh?! REALLY?! THIS WEEKEND?!

2002-05-24 Thread chad
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

I doubt the vibe which permeated the air at DEMF I (which was conspicuously
absent last year) will ever return in full force.

well, that's the past... but i feel this vibe you're talking about any
time i have the good fortune to visit (or even pass through) that
magical city.  i guess it's subjective.

anyway, get over it and start partying already.  put in earplugs and
avoid media like the plague if you don't want to listen to the bullsh*t
chatter (i highly recommend this). you're lucky people.  as are those
who you may not consider in the know who stumble across that spot.
don't take it for granted (again).  this is still a VERY special weekend
for music (in case you DIDN'T know).  want proof?  f*ckin open your eyes
and ears and FEEL the world around you!

i'm gonna do my best to feel it from milwaukee.  keep in mind that
negative attitudes and condescension will only bring about negative
changes... and that is a FACT.

if detroit can't pull this off, all is lost.
how romantic, hey? :P

love from milwaukee,
chad

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Re: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Dan Sicko

I have to agree with Dan, the only reason I brought up the IDM/dance
distinction yesterday because it was portrayed that way to some degree
in the MT article (for understandable reasons).


Right ... this seems to be a problem in the media only. I'm objecting 
more to the spin being put on the lineup, rather than the lineup 
itself.  The techno/IDM distinction is what, 9 years old now?


-d

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Re: [313] ugh?! REALLY?! THIS WEEKEND?!

2002-05-24 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 02:59 PM 5/24/2002, chad wrote:

On Fri, 24 May 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

I doubt the vibe which permeated the air at DEMF I (which was conspicuously
absent last year) will ever return in full force.

well, that's the past... but i feel this vibe you're talking about any
time i have the good fortune to visit (or even pass through) that
magical city.  i guess it's subjective.


Certainly it's subjective, but I haven't found anyone who attended both 
years who doesn't know exactly what I am referring to.
If you had, you would. I've lived in the area all of my life and I love the 
city as well, but it went beyond that. If you weren't there, you would have 
a hard time understanding. It's why Carl and Hannah were watching it with 
tears streaming. It was palpable.

Can I get a witness?



 as are those
who you may not consider in the know who stumble across that spot.
don't take it for granted (again).  this is still a VERY special weekend
for music (in case you DIDN'T know).  want proof?  f*ckin open your eyes
and ears and FEEL the world around you!


Just to clarify, I was quoting the language of the article which was being 
discussed when I mentioned those in the know and those not. Having been a 
music geek for most of my 45+ years, I am well aware of what the weekend 
is, thank you. I was merely following and adding to the discussion and not 
trying to be negative. Looking at the changes which have occurred and 
weighing the resultant differences is not, imo, taking it for granted or 
succumbing to media driven politics. I would furthermore suggest that to 
ignore what I have experienced, seen and FELT already would be to don a set 
of blinders in itself.




i'm gonna do my best to feel it from milwaukee.  keep in mind that
negative attitudes and condescension will only bring about negative
changes... and that is a FACT.


True enough. Ignoring reality and shutting down constructive discussion can 
also be seen as a negative attitude and that is also a fact.
Because I don't see what you see does not mean my eyes are closed or I 
cannot feel accurately. Be careful of what you construe as condescension.

peace.
jeff




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Re: [313] ugh

2002-05-24 Thread Super Coffee Beans

man its not the problems with media today, it was allways the probelm
with the media. newpapaers and TV will allways try the build into you
models and structures if thinking. i am right now doing a course about
it in university.
they have ways of making u think in a s certain way, it was nice dan u
noticed that. this is one of the tricks the press will use on you.
most of tricks come from rhetorics like quasi logical argumets my
english is not good enough to explain this, but try the book the from
chaim perlman here`s the link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0268004463/qid=1022271832/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-7401855-6311924
you can read noam chomskys books.

and dan... and all u there have fun in DEMF and don`t give a dammm
Yair

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[313] I Need Motors Street Address

2002-05-24 Thread Joel Fernandez
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Ciao Baby.



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Re: [313] I Need Motors Street Address

2002-05-24 Thread :P
source:  www.motordetroit.com

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=USaddress=3515+Caniffcity=Ham
tramckstate=MIzipcode=homesubmit.x=21homesubmit.y=12



-Joe



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 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [313] I Need Motors Street Address

2002-05-24 Thread :P
and as a follow-up:

Location:

3515 Caniff St
Hamtramck, MI
48212-3126, US

-Joe


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 source:  www.motordetroit.com


http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=USaddress=3515+Caniffcity=Ham
 tramckstate=MIzipcode=homesubmit.x=21homesubmit.y=12



 -Joe



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  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: [313] I Need Motors Street Address

2002-05-24 Thread yussel
3515 Caniff
Hamtramck

On Fri, 24 May 2002, Joel Fernandez wrote:

 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

 Ciao Baby.



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Re: [313] I Need Motors Street Address

2002-05-24 Thread PhedX
24/05/2002 05:22 PM

 source:  www.motordetroit.com
 
 http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=USaddress=3515+Caniffcity=Ham
 tramckstate=MIzipcode=homesubmit.x=21homesubmit.y=12
 
 
 
 -Joe
 
 
 
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Caniff east off of I-75 dow n two miles o n the left cannot miss it


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Re: [313] ugh?! REALLY?! THIS WEEKEND?!

2002-05-24 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 04:50 PM 5/24/2002, you wrote:
Okay, I'm not one to say DEMF1 was greater than DEMF2, which was in turn 
greater than DEMF3 is likely to be


that's a game of margins (like the I was at Woodstock, or at 
such-and-such a Rolling Stones gig in London, or DEMF1, and if you weren't 
there, then you *missed* it all, buddy).  In the book _Stars Don't Stand 
Still in the Sky_,  Greil Marcus gets good digs in on this attitude, 
showing how useless it is


That's definitely NOT anything like what I originally said, meant or 
implied - nor is it reflective of any kind of attitude on my part.
I merely stated the difference *I* felt in the air between the two fests. 
Furthermore, people whom I know (my wife, for example) who are not in the 
scene at all felt it in the same way (and she isn't privy to the politics 
OR the artists involved).
Funny how some people can find a whole lot which doesn't exist in the words 
of others.
I understand that internet hermeneutics can be fraught with difficulties, 
but eisogesis is eisogesis. Attack me on my points, but not on your 
misconstrual of them, please. And note that I said I would be there and was 
looking forward to Alan's performance, among others.

jeff


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