Re: [313] advent track id
I'd go with number 3 out of them. The ever present electro track is the one to watch but the main side is a decent mover too. They don't just sound like rehashs. - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [313] advent track id Is the the advent - new beginnings double pack on internal records also worth hunting down? If you like the Advent, then yes. But overall I think it's less compelling than their first string of truly outstanding 12's on Internal, and thus the Elements of Life catch-up too. To be fair, I have some friends who are pretty into New Beginnings but I just wasn't feelin' it the same way... so it probably also depends on how hard you play out. Are there any must have Kombination Research records? I passed on most of them but I'm sure there are some winners ? Peace, Matt ps - in an unrelated note: anyone hard that dub(?) record by Bandulu ? I think it's a 7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent track id
I think Colin had more chest hair. Who knows? - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] advent track id I was checking his stuff out on the main screen, and it looked like he just had his powerbook and the Alesis Air FX. The mixing desk was probably supplied for him, because it looked like he was only using a small section of the board, around 6 channels, but never moved the sliders. It seemed as if the laptop just played back his tracks, and he'd wave his hand over the Air FX every now and again for effects. I'm glad I finally got to see him, even though it's w/o Colin. Does anybody know why they split up? Kevin - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 's mcgill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: [313] advent track id Are there some good gesr-spotters on this list? When the advent was playing i tried to figure out what he was using, all i could see was a hughe mixingdesk, some FX and a titanium powerbook. It looked like he was just manipulating some pre-recorded tracks. Oh i said it looked like he did this, maybe i missed a bunch of gear somewhere... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which is then followed by the Luke Slater remix of the same track You know, when it slows down for a moment. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:07 AM Subject: [313] advent track id www.electronicmusicfest.com has a set by advent. his tracks dont blend, he just stops the track and goes onto the next track. what is the third track?? starts off with some light drumms then goes into red 2 sounding synths and snapes. the track goes on for a long time doing lost of stuff. real heavy on percution and snair rolls. i use to have a tape of Green Velvet around 98?? and he played that at the start. can anyone help me out??? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent track id
Some live artists use multiple outs, and mix using the board instead of the software. When I saw Kooky Scientist last year he had it like that I believe, and he's definitely live. Kevin - Original Message - From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [313] advent track id once you do a soundcheck, there is no need to play with the mixer settings. most pro audio cards have hardware mixing built in, normally mixing audio streams at 36 bit. these are mixed down to whatever outputs you have assigned said audio stream to. with an all-computer setup, you dont need the mixer because you assign master mix to main outs and go from there. the thing I dont like about laptop shows is that I want to see more GEAR :))) -Joe - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] advent track id I was checking his stuff out on the main screen, and it looked like he just had his powerbook and the Alesis Air FX. The mixing desk was probably supplied for him, because it looked like he was only using a small section of the board, around 6 channels, but never moved the sliders. It seemed as if the laptop just played back his tracks, and he'd wave his hand over the Air FX every now and again for effects. I'm glad I finally got to see him, even though it's w/o Colin. Does anybody know why they split up? Kevin - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 's mcgill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: [313] advent track id Are there some good gesr-spotters on this list? When the advent was playing i tried to figure out what he was using, all i could see was a hughe mixingdesk, some FX and a titanium powerbook. It looked like he was just manipulating some pre-recorded tracks. Oh i said it looked like he did this, maybe i missed a bunch of gear somewhere... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which is then followed by the Luke Slater remix of the same track You know, when it slows down for a moment. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:07 AM Subject: [313] advent track id www.electronicmusicfest.com has a set by advent. his tracks dont blend, he just stops the track and goes onto the next track. what is the third track?? starts off with some light drumms then goes into red 2 sounding synths and snapes. the track goes on for a long time doing lost of stuff. real heavy on percution and snair rolls. i use to have a tape of Green Velvet around 98?? and he played that at the start. can anyone help me out??? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the creative class in revitalizing cities. In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the electronic music scene is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city. We'll see whether the new mayor rises to that challenge. Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related: http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FA ebay
Relics (Transmat collectible), new Hakan Lidbo, 69, new Rob Hood mix CD on Logistics (Rare Species), MFA, Chiapet, Two Banks of Four, Mr. Fingers, more. No reserves. Thanks. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems[EMAIL PROTECTED]include=0since=-1sort=2rows=30rdir=0 seller id = [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
i sort of hate that florida guy. he teaches at CMU in pgh, and i think he just doesnt know what he's talking about. his ideas about pittsburgh just dont mesh with the reality of the city. he's exactly the kind of intellectual that i really despise. tom -- Original Message -- From: Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:21:03 -0700 I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the creative class in revitalizing cities. In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the electronic music scene is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city. We'll see whether the new mayor rises to that challenge. Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related: http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html -- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] andythepooh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] for those who love their electro (warning OT)
i put up a nice lot of electro on ebay including Drexciya, Ultradyne, Ectomorph, and Erotek. Check it out and bid with confidence at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=883565799 Thanks -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Go Wings (OT)
Detroit Red Wings-3 Carolina Hurricanes-0 next game thursday in Detroit! GO WINGS!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Need a copy of Derrick May: Mayday Mix CD
hey all, I need a copy of Derrick May: Mayday Mix CD. Seems its out of print. Email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have one for sale. I can paypal you no problem. Regards, Dr. Attaman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] electro is
Don't Forget That Beat, Don't Forget That Beat :) Got to love that Fat's Comet stuff... silicon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tack Head was another name they all went by as well. Wow, Tackhead gets a mention on 313one of my old time favorites so I must chime in on this one. Give a listen to the Album 'Gary Clail's Tackhead Soundsystem' for some of their best stuff. 'Man in a suitcase' is pretty worn on my copy. Tackhead tried to do some 'softer' sounding stuff in later albums but it wasn't as compelling as their early sound. Keith contributed a lot to their sound and also pitched in on NIN's 'pretty hate machine'. Not that old Trent Reznor would part with any credit for that. People used to say the drums on Tackhead weren't drums at all but steel doors being slammed shut. Yea, love that stuff. Yeah, definately great stuff! Also check out the Fats Comet records they did, similar to Tackhead, but a bit more funky. Also Keith LeBlanc's album Major Malfuction (sic) and of course the Malcolm X record he did: No Sell Out. Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent track id
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 03:09 PM, Kevin wrote: I'm glad I finally got to see him, even though it's w/o Colin. Does anybody know why they split up? supposedly colin was tired of touring so much. but that's always sounded a little bit like a cover story. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent track id
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 12:26 PM, Matthew MacQueen wrote: Are there any must have Kombination Research records? I passed on most of them but I'm sure there are some winners ? Motor EP! In Search is an amazing amazing track. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] advent track id
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 10:17 AM, Matthew MacQueen wrote: Bad Boy is on the album, Elements Of Life (so's to help your search if you didn't already know it), which is all round great. Bad Boy II is on the original 12 on Internal, and is pretty wicked and worth finding the 12 for, if you can... Bad Boy was also made (a lot more) famous by Mills using it to start segment 2 of his mix-up cd in 1996. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] track id-help:)
its kinda housey with the sample u may shoot u may cut me.. help? i used to know this one but i am getting old Yair. moodsgrooves 10 : g flame mr g remix Cheerio, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Blackwater Strings 'Vocal' Mix
Ok sorry if this has already posted and Im well behind here but I happened to listen to the this on groovetech this morning...is it me or has someone put a female vocal over blackwater ??!?!! I really cant believe that , the original is great but IMO this sounds f*^n awful.. *grrr* Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Blackwater Strings 'Vocal' Mix
From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok sorry if this has already posted and Im well behind here but I happened to listen to the this on groovetech this morning...is it me or has someone put a female vocal over blackwater ??!?!! I really cant believe that , the original is great but IMO this sounds f*^n awful.. You are 10 months late with this... but ok... the first vocal version was BWP1 (black water promo 1) , with a chase the blues intr. on the b-side... than another 3 promo´s followed (bwp2,bwp3,bwp4) , the last is this strings version. I like the original untold (featered on the blackwater ep on 430 west) much better... but the vocals are not that bad, are they? Greets, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] electro is trendy // 80s sound
Another cat or two to check out would be, Keith Le Blanc, and some of the Mark Stewart Maffia stuff. Agreed that they're worth checking out, although I think it a bit of a stretch to call it electro - more electronic dub really, and pretty different to anything else that was around at the time (its generally much more extreme than the other On-U-Sound stuff). Also Mark Stewart's earlier work with the Pop Group is excellent if you can find any - there's one track on the In The Beginning There was Rhythm comp which was discussed on here recently. Keith Le Blanc was part of the Sugar Hill Gang as a drummer along with Skip Mc Donald and Doug Wimbish. Really!? I never knew that - tell me more. What tracks were they involved with? Thanks, Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Blackwater Strings 'Vocal' Mix
yeah Ive just got the original version on that 430 west lp - didnt realise there was a vocal version. Have listened to the vocal again after the various flames Ive had for knocking it...its not too bad but I think I still prefer the untouched original. oh yeah - sorry for being months out of date, I cant really be arsed to keep up with the 0-dayz action ;) Marc -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:40 AM To: Langsman, Marc; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Blackwater Strings 'Vocal' Mix From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok sorry if this has already posted and Im well behind here but I happened to listen to the this on groovetech this morning...is it me or has someone put a female vocal over blackwater ??!?!! I really cant believe that , the original is great but IMO this sounds f*^n awful.. You are 10 months late with this... but ok... the first vocal version was BWP1 (black water promo 1) , with a chase the blues intr. on the b-side... than another 3 promo´s followed (bwp2,bwp3,bwp4) , the last is this strings version. I like the original untold (featered on the blackwater ep on 430 west) much better... but the vocals are not that bad, are they? Greets, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] advent track id
kconradDoes anybody know why they split up? smcgillI think Colin had more chest hair. Chest hair seems as good enough reason as any, but remember that Ferreira moved to his (sort of) native Portugal, late '90s for good. It kind of gets difficult to keep a partnership alive in the same way at such a distance (Mcbean is a dyed-in-the-wool Londoner). The talk is ( caution, it *is* only talk) that the pair never stopped working - Note as late as Apr 2000 there was a release featuring Colin: On the Exit EP, (B2) 'Etox'. Who knows when it was recorded admittedly ... but I for one expect more McBean/Ferreira productions at some stage. k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 7 new tracks online...
straight out of denmark: 4 new tracks at: http://mp3.com/bloch 3 new tracks at: http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm btw. i'm moving to detroit on the 4th of july, looking forward to seeing some heads soon ;) Christian Bloch Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging John Ossaeler
Drop me a mail, John, I'm coming to Belgium but I think I have an out of date email address for you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fragile
Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? thanks fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
-Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Most of the Fragile releases are really nice indeed. The Sterac is cool indeed. The early stuff is essential to, BFC, Jay Denham, Midi Merge... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fragile
... If they've got BFC's, Evolution/Static Friendly b/w Galaxy/It's A Shame, naturally snap it up. k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] fragile
acid eiffel L garnier a must should have been in my cry list mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
i guess they launched it to feature new less known artists mainly ? - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
I always thought Fragile was started as Transmat was moving in a harder, more dancefloor direction (Transmat releases at the time of Fragile's inception included Energy Flash and die Klang Der Familie), and Fragile was a sublabel which would continue to explore the more emotional and melodic strand of techno. Of course, Transmat eventually veered away from stuff like 3Phase or Joey Beltram, and by now it seems strange that many Fragile releases didn't come out on Transmat anyway, but Fragile has its own reputation by now and so the main difference between contemporary Fragile and Transmat records is probably that the higher-profile, album-producing artists will show up on Transmat. -Original Message- From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:51 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Fragile i guess they launched it to feature new less known artists mainly ? - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please
Re: [313] Fragile
Bango ep is a hot one too - Original Message - From: Fab [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 11 June, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [313] Fragile Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? thanks fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fragile vs TRansmat (was: RE: [313] Fragile)
That would explain a lot of things, if this were true. But I doubt whether Transmat themselves have actually a clue as to what music is destined to be released on Transmat or on Fragile. My guess is that they flip coins over it... :) But a new album by Tony Drake, that would really make my day! W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at inet-1 Sent: dinsdag 11 juni 2002 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I always thought Fragile was started as Transmat was moving in a harder, more dancefloor direction (Transmat releases at the time of Fragile's inception included Energy Flash and die Klang Der Familie), and Fragile was a sublabel which would continue to explore the more emotional and melodic strand of techno. Of course, Transmat eventually veered away from stuff like 3Phase or Joey Beltram, and by now it seems strange that many Fragile releases didn't come out on Transmat anyway, but Fragile has its own reputation by now and so the main difference between contemporary Fragile and Transmat records is probably that the higher-profile, album-producing artists will show up on Transmat. -Original Message- From: Niko Tzoukmanis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:51 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Fragile i guess they launched it to feature new less known artists mainly ? - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) Brendan Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry/Wadodem
: ... Belfast (The Orb) always seemed to also have a nice : 'Berlinish' : flavor : to me; maybe now I know why. : : Erm... i believe Belfast was by Orbital, who have nothing to : do with The : Orb... :Still, worthy of this techno songs that... list, the version I have in :mind being the Belfast/Wasted version, which lasted something :like 8 or 10 :minutes ... yeah i think that is the version with the tacked on vocal? im pretty sure its the same length as the original and im also pretty sure they did another track that had a version with the same guy doing a vocal... neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: So good it'll make you cry...Mr. Mike Grant
Don't believe anyone has posted this one: Mike Grant's remix of Blaktroniks Raindrops Definitely, IMHO one of the most emotional tracks in quite a minute. (gets to me EVERY time). Peace, Alandress www.mp3.com/alandress - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Go Wings (OT)
I definitely think the Wings have got the goods to get the Stanley Cup back to HockeyTown this year! Peace, Patrick. - Southern Outpost Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 http://www.southernoutpost.com p:+61 412 313 151 f:+ 612 9032 6046 - -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2002 12:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Go Wings (OT) Detroit Red Wings-3 Carolina Hurricanes-0 next game thursday in Detroit! GO WINGS!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Paris + Italy
Hey folks, At the beginning of July, I will be finishing up my stay in Europe with some vacationing. I would very much like to know of any good places (soirees, record stores, restaurants, whatever, just not-touristy stuff) in Paris (June 29 - July 4), Venice, Florence, or Rome (July 4 - July 12)? Thank you! -- Oh Stanley, you don't want to know. Huh, why'd I ask? -- UHF [EMAIL PROTECTED] weekdays || [EMAIL PROTECTED] weekends matt kane's brain - http://mkb.n3.net - http://www.everything2.com/?node=mkb - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile -Original Message- From: Fab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2002 11:03 Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? I heartily recommend A Scorpion's Dream/Aqua Dance which is by Steve Rachmad (Sterac), and also heartily recommend Theme From It's All Gone Pear-Shaped by Digital Justice. I have a policy when it comes to Fragile releases, though - Buy On Sight... :) I'd put these two at the top of my list too, but don't sleep on the Alton Miller release: Aphrodisiac - Feathers in My Face. Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry/Wadodem
OK - I already admitted my mistake a few minutes after this went out - almost 24 hours ago. -Original Message- From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry/Wadodem : ... Belfast (The Orb) always seemed to also have a nice : 'Berlinish' : flavor : to me; maybe now I know why. : : Erm... i believe Belfast was by Orbital, who have nothing to : do with The : Orb... :Still, worthy of this techno songs that... list, the version I have in :mind being the Belfast/Wasted version, which lasted something :like 8 or 10 :minutes ... yeah i think that is the version with the tacked on vocal? im pretty sure its the same length as the original and im also pretty sure they did another track that had a version with the same guy doing a vocal... neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
Lets face it, the whole back cat is worth having, but I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned fellow list member John Arnold's 'Sparkle' EP which is one of my personal faves of the latter end of the catalogue. stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit. Especially where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are perfect examples). I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years! And quote They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where people were saying, You can't have fun! or What do you mean play in a rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important. This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are creative whose parents would tell them basically that...get a blue collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever...but until they see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a husband, kids...the normal life. But from what I was told it takes people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new ideas. That's just the way it is. Lates, g. Fred Heutte wrote: I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the creative class in revitalizing cities. In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the electronic music scene is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city. We'll see whether the new mayor rises to that challenge. Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related: http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
Thanks to all those who asnwered! I'll let you know if i picked up anything ciao fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
don't forget about fragile #13 MAN MADE ...definatly a great one... michael www.renegaderhythms.com Fab wrote: Thanks to all those who asnwered! I'll let you know if i picked up anything ciao fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, glyph1001 wrote: I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit. Especially where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are perfect examples). I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years! I read the article and was of two minds. On the one hand I think the author's central conclusion is correct...the let's build a stadium mentality simply won't deal with the fundamental fact that cities are something other than vessels for corporate development. On the other though, let's take a look at his get right or go the way of detroit comment. Just in the last three years we've had the country's first hiphop mayor elected (this is purely a generational comment), and the world's largest free electronic music festival. These events are anecdotal, but along with movements such as Adamah and Detroit Summer and the Heidelberg project, I'd argue they could only have happened in Detroit. And this isn't simply because Detroit is supposedly empty but rather because there is already a vibrant creative class. So on the other hand, Detroit is an example (not a shining city on a hill mind you, but an example nonetheless) of what cities SHOULD be doing...not an example of what happens if you don't get it right. And quote They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where people were saying, You can't have fun! or What do you mean play in a rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important. This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are creative whose parents would tell them basically that...get a blue collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever...but until they see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a husband, kids...the normal life. But from what I was told it takes people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new ideas. That's just the way it is. If we say that X=the time it takes to see potential diversity...then I'd argue that Detroit's X is smaller than the X of other cities. This is where the author is wrong. He's arguing that the causal variable in making Detroit resource poor is the way it treats its creative class, when the causal variable has more to do with the intersection between race and a whole set of political factors. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
YES! I think that's the best record the advent have ever done. I still get chills every time I play it. classic! Jwan Begin Original Message From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:56:30 -0700 To: Fab [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Fragile don't forget about fragile #13 MAN MADE ...definatly a great one... michael www.renegaderhythms.com Fab wrote: Thanks to all those who asnwered! I'll let you know if i picked up anything ciao fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: 313- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: 313- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: 313- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: 313- [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message Free Game Guides! Complete walkthrus, secrets, hints and tips exclusively from IGN.com Play better today at http://guides.ign.com ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] free downloads
Hello again my friends. Once again i believe it is time for a new compilation at the hands of audiomind. i am just writing to see if u or any promoters u know would be interested in receiving this new promo in the mail? i am trying to get all these out before the usps decides to be greedy and raise the price of postage once again at the end of June. It will feature of course all new tracks including a couple tracks of original construction. To listen to the last mix to see if u would like the download please either go to btownsound.com or skoolhouse.com and just do a search for audiomind and take a listen and then u can decide to download or not. In the meantime if you know anyone that is going to or to want get a download of the last mix(or any future mix) i did, Fusion, please use this download: http://home.emira.com/~audiomind/audiomind-fusion.mp3 or go to the globaldjs.com website and look for audiomind. email me privately for a tracklisting or for any love or hate... I am about to delete this mix so download away. It is of course in mp3 form, 192 k and is about 102 mb. And of course you can convert any way u want. For other info, contact or latest updates on audiomind please check these websites: www.globaldjs.com - where people can download mixes of mine among others. www.btownsound.com - online listening to latest mixes, bios, etc. www.djaudiomind.djcentral.com - centralized location to everything about my little corner of the world. Check often for releases, originals, etc. www.dancetraxx.com - audiomind throwing down flavor online every Thursday 7-9 pm eastern standard usa time. www.charlottemix.com - coming soon! www.skoolhouse.com - where all the latest mixes of me and many others can be streamed! peace audiomind chris dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] a mind is a terrible thing to waste - ministry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
if you think Detroit is bad for this, try living in Lansing, it's a desert for culture. Unless your a redneck or in to nascar. be glad that detroit has what it has, at least there are places to get out into and show your art, I guess we have basements and a few galleries uphere. but nothing like what I would expect for a town having one major universty (go msu!) and three colleges. maybe it's because it's the capital and the republicans took over?? scotto lansing the land of the 50 person scene - Original Message - From: glyph1001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit I kinda agree with what the article says about Detroit. Especially where it notes that Detroit is basically a city that shuns on forward thinking or creative ideas (Techno and The Heidlburg Projects are perfect examples). I mean sheesh, it took THIS long to have a DEMF in Detroit where this music has been around for almost 20 years! And quote They created a lifestyle mentality, where Pittsburgh and Detroit were still trapped in that Protestant-ethic/bohemian-ethic split, where people were saying, You can't have fun! or What do you mean play in a rock band? Cut your hair and go to work, son. That's what's important. This is so true because I've heard this from Detroiters I know who are creative whose parents would tell them basically that...get a blue collar job instead of doing music or art or whatever...but until they see that you're successful in it (and they'll only understand it when you're sucessful in it), their attitudes don't change because all they understand is a job with a little security, a small house, a wife or a husband, kids...the normal life. But from what I was told it takes people in Detroit a long time to see potential in creativity and new ideas. That's just the way it is. Lates, g. Fred Heutte wrote: I don't subscribe to a lot of the theorizing in this article, but it's interesting -- about recent research done on the role of the creative class in revitalizing cities. In fact, Detroit has a pretty active creative class (the electronic music scene is even mentioned obliquely in the article, but nothing else, showing how little either the author or researcher seem to know about the city), and the *potential* exists, as we've all known, for this to spur the true rebirth of the city. We'll see whether the new mayor rises to that challenge. Anyway, 313 related but not exactly electronic music related: http://www.salon.com/books/int/2002/06/06/florida/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile/transmat
transmat did produce vinyl with the fragile label... PhedX - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
how about strings of life? there's a sample or two used on that one... Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - Original Message - From: Alasdair Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
Where ? The piano riff was thomas barnett for nude photo... Not really a sample tho he didn't rip it from another record... how about strings of life? there's a sample or two used on that one... Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - Original Message - From: Alasdair Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
i'm quite sure the strings was from the detroit symphony orchestra or something??? or am i misinformed? Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - Original Message - From: Paul Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [313] Fragile Where ? The piano riff was thomas barnett for nude photo... Not really a sample tho he didn't rip it from another record... how about strings of life? there's a sample or two used on that one... Christian Bloch http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings - Original Message - From: Alasdair Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
Nude Photo - legend has it the laughing voice is Alison Moyet from Yazoo ? -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lyon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
Yup AFAIK know the strings are sampled too. The piano loop was from a friend of Derrick May, Michael James and not Thomas Barnet. James was credited on early releases of Strings of Live but his name got ereased on later pressings but that issue has been discussed over and over again :) At 17:52 +0200 11-06-2002, Christian Bloch wrote: i'm quite sure the strings was from the detroit symphony orchestra or something??? or am i misinformed? ere ? The piano riff was thomas barnett for nude photo... Not really a sample tho he didn't rip it from another record... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] advent track id
He could always make up some fake foam gear that looks real and set it out so it looks like he's using a big set up!! I like the gear to but that can be a pain, always making sure every thing is working and not getting damaged. S -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:32 PM To: Kevin; 313 Subject: Re: [313] advent track id once you do a soundcheck, there is no need to play with the mixer settings. most pro audio cards have hardware mixing built in, normally mixing audio streams at 36 bit. these are mixed down to whatever outputs you have assigned said audio stream to. with an all-computer setup, you dont need the mixer because you assign master mix to main outs and go from there. the thing I dont like about laptop shows is that I want to see more GEAR :))) -Joe - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] advent track id I was checking his stuff out on the main screen, and it looked like he just had his powerbook and the Alesis Air FX. The mixing desk was probably supplied for him, because it looked like he was only using a small section of the board, around 6 channels, but never moved the sliders. It seemed as if the laptop just played back his tracks, and he'd wave his hand over the Air FX every now and again for effects. I'm glad I finally got to see him, even though it's w/o Colin. Does anybody know why they split up? Kevin - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 's mcgill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org; ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: [313] advent track id Are there some good gesr-spotters on this list? When the advent was playing i tried to figure out what he was using, all i could see was a hughe mixingdesk, some FX and a titanium powerbook. It looked like he was just manipulating some pre-recorded tracks. Oh i said it looked like he did this, maybe i missed a bunch of gear somewhere... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which is then followed by the Luke Slater remix of the same track You know, when it slows down for a moment. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:07 AM Subject: [313] advent track id www.electronicmusicfest.com has a set by advent. his tracks dont blend, he just stops the track and goes onto the next track. what is the third track?? starts off with some light drumms then goes into red 2 sounding synths and snapes. the track goes on for a long time doing lost of stuff. real heavy on percution and snair rolls. i use to have a tape of Green Velvet around 98?? and he played that at the start. can anyone help me out??? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fragile
Not Legend Truth! I have a copy of this track for sale on my site btw... http://www.big12inch.com/ms002.html Thankls Malcolm -- Original Message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:56:42 +0100 Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Nude Photo - legend has it the laughing voice is Alison Moyet from Yazoo ? -Original Message- From:Alasdair Lyon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.big12inch.com House Music - Vinyl Records,CDs,Hard to Find Records - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile/transmat
11/06/2002 11:37 AM transmat did produce vinyl with the fragile label... what? explain please, because that's something i don't understand! PhedX - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back in the mid 90s I was working as a freelance designer and pitching transmat for work. I was asked to comp up some labels for transmat and fragile... fragile records were there in the office; Laurel (promotions @ the time for Transmat) informed me that fragile was another label they (transmat) were handeling. I did some sample work ups for fragile and transmat, gave them to Laurel and Derrick o nly to be denied. (oh well I still have fu n whe never I ru n i nto Derrick... (the goofy photos are well worth it (christmas cards last year...) Anyhow way she explained it to me was that they were out there pushing the label (fragile._) And handeling some of the distribution/label design. Laurel (who wanted her own promotional company at the time/was doing it on the side may) may have been doing the fragile work in addition to the Transmat work. But I do not believe that to be the case. Hope that clears it up. :) Phedx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: (313) Fragile
Isn't that laughing sample from a human league record? could be HL took it from Alison though... :) W -Original Message- From: Mann; Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] at inet-1 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Nude Photo - legend has it the laughing voice is Alison Moyet from Yazoo ? -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lyon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fragile
the best work ever from garnier is in this lable (imo). it calls acid eifiel. laurent shows the he perfectlu understand the detroit spirit. Hi...one of the record shops here in Rome has re-hashed part of its back catalogue and among variuos things they have a dozen or so Fragile releases.are they worth checking out? Do any of you have any records in particular that you reccomend? thanks fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
If we say that X=the time it takes to see potential diversity...then I'd argue that Detroit's X is smaller than the X of other cities. This is where the author is wrong. He's arguing that the causal variable in making Detroit resource poor is the way it treats its creative class, when the causal variable has more to do with the intersection between race and a whole set of political factors. Um, yes and maybe not entirely. Take this graf from the end of the article: The basic challenge is that the society is splitting into the creative haves and have-nots by region. We're getting regional winners and losers. As the creative class migrates to the places that provide the economic and lifestyle options they desire, this could be very threatening to national unity. As the creative class concentrates in ethnically diverse, racially diverse ways, the people that are left behind are resentful. And that's a powder keg. While Mr. Florida does make the error you point out, he also implies that intelligent regional planning/administration is a function of understanding and planning with the creative class in mind as a significant variable--something no city does deliberately but which some have done intuitively or accidentally. Living in Austin, I can say that there's some truth to how regional planning/adminstration on an intuitive level helped the city rise to prominence among creative types; I moved here from Tulsa for many of the reasons Florida cites in the article. However, as the above-quoted graf outlines, there still isn't enough deliberate regional planning/administration taking place that considers the factors he points out. One visionary (Kozmetsky, Mayors Todd and Watson, etc) doesn't affect systemic change and that's something that Austin is having to contend with now that the bubble has burst and the tech (or creative) lifestyle is no longer the imminently attainable holy grail. There's such a strong and clearly marked line between the creative haves/have nots here that you wonder when East Austin is going to *officially* adopt Spanish as its commercial language, and when non-lilly-whites will be banned from the hill country to the west of town. I think the Florida article was less about what's bad with Detroit (or any other city) than what changes have to take place in the minds of our country's city managers/mayors/bureaocrats--in how they envision economic and community development--to affect a region's vitality. It's not all roses here, lemme tell ya... Heath - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Sonar meet-up
Hi list, I haven't been able to follow closely what's been going on on the list in the last few weeks so don't shoot me if this is already in my mailbox a couple of pages down the line: Who's at Sonar and who wants to meet up? Contact me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] John, preparing some Technotourism to make up for 'no-Detroit-this-year' http://www.technotourist.org _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RE: (313) Fragile
It's from Situation On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that laughing sample from a human league record? could be HL took it from Alison though... :) W -Original Message- From: Mann; Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED] at inet-1 Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INET-1; 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: RE: [313] Fragile Nude Photo - legend has it the laughing voice is Alison Moyet from Yazoo ? -Original Message- From: Alasdair Lyon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Fragile I can't remember exactly but I think in an interview with Jockey slut a few years ago Stacy Pullen said something about Transmat songs not using samples, but it was ok to use samples on Fragile. Like I say, I'm not 100% sure and might be getting completely mixed up with something else. Maybe that interview is online somewhere? Why did they ever start Fragile btw.? I mean loads of stuff on Fragile could have been Transmat, i always wondered why they had two labels... [EMAIL PROTECTED] my favourites are the two bango 12es by stacey pullen, art of vengeance ep by aril brikha and of course acid eiffel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] sites and sounds in toronto (possibly ot)
i'm planning a trip to toronto at the end of june or sometime in july, and i was wondering if someone could help me out with events/dj appearances, or just anything to see and do in toronto. it's been awhile since i've been...also accommodation info would be nice... thanks. m. in design one must have a revolution from time to time --peter schreyer (former audi lead designer, now head designer of vw) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Castro-tech?
Going to Cuba June 23 - 29th, any oppressed 313'rs ;) Seriously though, if anyone knows of any good parties, people, places - drop me a note. btw are there any cuban techno labels ? -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] track id-help:)
Its a Moods Grooves records from Detroit : Mike Grant And then It was my turn... Hope I helped you Fabrice Lig From: Super Coffee Beans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] track id-help:) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:30:50 +0200 its kinda housey with the sample u may shoot u may cut me.. help? i used to know this one but i am getting old Yair. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ _ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] (OT?) Radioactive Man track ID
In the Breezeblock Showcase Set 07-05-01 (available from Audiogalaxy) Keith plays a track that has two KC the Sunshine Band samples (Shake Shake Shake Get Down Tonight) what is that tune? It doesn't sound like he's cutting them in rather the tune he's playing uses them - really well I might add. I will send the file to individuals who can't download it - I tried sending it to the list but it bounced. Thanks MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: [313techknow] 7 new tracks online...
At 10:44 11-6-2002, Christian Bloch wrote: straight out of denmark: 4 new tracks at: http://mp3.com/bloch 3 new tracks at: http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Brilliant! Esspecially Theft, which is my absolute favourite from the seven-pack. btw. i'm moving to detroit on the 4th of july, looking forward to seeing some heads soon ;) Good luck! And say 'hi!' to Clarissa! R. (your driver in The Netherlands :) --- f:un[x]iun http://www.funxiun.com Electro, Techno and more ... --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, lazlo wrote: If we say that X=the time it takes to see potential diversity...then I'd argue that Detroit's X is smaller than the X of other cities. This is where the author is wrong. He's arguing that the causal variable in making Detroit resource poor is the way it treats its creative class, when the causal variable has more to do with the intersection between race and a whole set of political factors. Um, yes and maybe not entirely. Take this graf from the end of the article: The basic challenge is that the society is splitting into the creative haves and have-nots by region. We're getting regional winners and losers. As the creative class migrates to the places that provide the economic and lifestyle options they desire, this could be very threatening to national unity. As the creative class concentrates in ethnically diverse, racially diverse ways, the people that are left behind are resentful. And that's a powder keg. Well this is just wrong. You want to know what the biggest divide is? Just take a look at the 2002 Presidential Election voting map. For non-Americans on this list, the regions that voted for Bush are primarily rural and cover pretty much the entire country...with the exception of the urban areas. ALL the urban areas are blue--indicating a vote for Gore. The Red areas ARE resentful, and this resentment is largely racial. They don't want to live around black people, they resent the fact that government allots resources to underserving black people, and they are increasingly dependent upon prisons which house black prisoners for their employment. ALL of Richard Florida's creative spaces are blue. This creative have/creative have not divide is fictional...at least attitudinally and geographically. Now WITHIN those blue spaces there is variation, perhaps along the lines that Florida addressesbut thinking about this some more let's look at the detroit techno community. If FLorida is correct, and Detroit is the best (worst) example of what can happen if you don't treat your creative class right...then the vast majority of Detroit's techno community should have migrated outside of Detroit. Now Juan Atkins IS in L.A...but what of the others? While Mr. Florida does make the error you point out, he also implies that intelligent regional planning/administration is a function of understanding and planning with the creative class in mind as a significant variable--something no city does deliberately but which some have done intuitively or accidentally. This is only ONE variable though...and while it is important, the other variables (political and economic) cannot be ignored. Living in Austin, I can say that there's some truth to how regional planning/adminstration on an intuitive level helped the city rise to prominence among creative types; I moved here from Tulsa for many of the reasons Florida cites in the article. However, as the above-quoted graf outlines, there still isn't enough deliberate regional planning/administration taking place that considers the factors he points out. One visionary (Kozmetsky, Mayors Todd and Watson, etc) doesn't affect systemic change and that's something that Austin is having to contend with now that the bubble has burst and the tech (or creative) lifestyle is no longer the imminently attainable holy grail. There's such a strong and clearly marked line between the creative haves/have nots here that you wonder when East Austin is going to *officially* adopt Spanish as its commercial language, and when non-lilly-whites will be banned from the hill country to the west of town. But this doesn't sound creative to me...this sounds racial. Also I find it interesting that AUSTIN is compared to Detroit, Boston, or Pittsburgh. There are significant problems with this comparison. I think the Florida article was less about what's bad with Detroit (or any other city) than what changes have to take place in the minds of our country's city managers/mayors/bureaocrats--in how they envision economic and community development--to affect a region's vitality. It's not all roses here, lemme tell ya... A couple of people responding in the pages of Salon.com brought this point up. To a certain extent, as soon as I see someone dog Detroit I get pissed...and some of my critique is based on this. I do believe that Kilpatrick and others must somehow take the artistic vision of the house heads and techno heads, as well as the political vision of activists such as Grace Boggs, in order to create the 21st century city. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Sonar meet-up
I think a client just bought me tickets to come to a small town south of Bercelona on thursday, what a coincidence of timing! I will see about staying in Barcelona and might be around for a meet-up. quote who=John Osselaer Hi list, I haven't been able to follow closely what's been going on on the list in the last few weeks so don't shoot me if this is already in my mailbox a couple of pages down the line: Who's at Sonar and who wants to meet up? Contact me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] John, preparing some Technotourism to make up for 'no-Detroit-this-year' http://www.technotourist.org _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Austin, Pittsburgh and Detroit
Without simply gushing, I have to say this: when I'm in Iowa there are two or three people who I know who get what I'm trying to do musically. When I get to Detroit, people take my efforts seriously in a way that I don't get anywhere else. And I'm not claiming to be a grand artist or anything. I mean that the PROCESS I'm engaged in -- trying to create something new and unique -- is regarded as the most natural thing on earth to people I meet in Detroit. Around here, with a few exceptions, it's seen as a quaint hobby, like collecting Beanie Babies. Detroit folks have a lot to be proud of. On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: To a certain extent, as soon as I see someone dog Detroit I get pissed...and some of my critique is based on this. I do believe that Kilpatrick and others must somehow take the artistic vision of the house heads and techno heads, as well as the political vision of activists such as Grace Boggs, in order to create the 21st century city. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Warp Magic Bus Tour Update
Did anyone go to this? how was it? -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Date: 10 May 2002 14:24 Subject: [313] Fw: Warp Magic Bus Tour Update Drexciya! Hello, Just a reminder that the WARP MAGIC BUS, currently on route through Germany, will be rolling into a town near you in late May/ early June Dates are: Thur 30th May - Manchester Music Box Fri 31st May - Glasgow, Art School Sat 1st June - Newcastle Reds Sun 2nd June - Sheffield Ski Village Mon 3rd June - Birmingham Medicine Bar Thur 6th June - London Electrowerkz II* - JUST ANNOUNCED, FULL LINEUP BELOW Fri 7th June - Dublin Temple Bar Music Centre** With us for most nights will be PLAID RICHARD DEVINE CHRIS CLARK (except Dublin) WARP DJ's SPECIAL VISUALS/ WARP FILM SCREENINGS + local support in each area + special guests - Luke Vibert (Sheffield), Plone (Birmingham) **Dublin will also feature Steve Beckett, Keith Tenniswood and DJ Maddog Cougar Wallace Full tour details are avail on www.warprecords.com/tour Tickets (£8 - £10) are avail in local outlets and from WayAhead **JUST ANNOUNCED*** - LONDON ELECTROWERKZ - THURSDAY 6TH JUNE with: CASSETTEBOY DREXCIYEN DJ STINGRAY JAMIE LIDELL LFO DJ PLAID RICHARD DEVINE RUSSELL HASWELL WARP DJS WARP FILMS ROOM ADVANCE TICKETS £12.50 AVAILABLE FROM WWW.STARGREEN.COM, ROUGH TRADE:0207 240 0105 SMALLFISH:0207 739 2252 AVAILABLE ON TOUR ONLY - 'MAGIC BUS TRACKS' - an exclusive CD featuring unreleased material from LUKE VIBERT, PLAID, RICHARD DEVINE, RUSSELL HASWELL, CHRIS CLARK, ASTROBOTNIA and others - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
