Re: [313] IDM?
WellIf we must label why not label Detroit Techno as IDM too. Detroit Techno: Its MUSIC. People DANCE to it. And it is INTELLEGENT [as far as I'm concerned. [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:44:20 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] IDM? IDM ? only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music) all the best, akin fernandez - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] day of mp3 death?
The open source community has already embraced Ogg as an alternative to the mp3 format. - Original Message - From: Aaron Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [313] day of mp3 death? That's fine for personal listening but what about the open source community's software that's in development or has already been created and relies upon the standard? There's alot more to mp3 other than listen to music. The mpeg standard relies pretty heavily upon it I believe. -Aaron On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, logic7 wrote: oh well... Just start using the superior sounding (and royalty free) Ogg Vorbis. I think they should have though more about the name for this compression technology, it would help it out a lot. www.vorbis.com - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: [313] day of mp3 death? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/27/1626241mode=flattid=155 the greediness and throat grip of music control is getting tighter and tighter. who guess' the riaa and mpaa didnt have a hand in this one. sick i tell ya. can you still breath is the question. sorry if u have already seen this! d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Japanese importers? Sublime
Anyone know where/which US or UK online record shops have a decent selection of Japanese import records - I'm very very interested in getting my hands on some Sublime records. I checked out their website but it's all in Japanese with no English language option - so it makes it rather difficult to figure out exactly what I'm doing. Maybe I'll just learn Japanese in three days. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
interestingly enough, the music that spawned the term (such as black dog's bytes and aphex's polygon window) has a *very* detroit sound. but yeah. this label makes me LIVID every time I hear it. and as far as stoopid dance music goes, yeah, we got that too... it's called happy hardcore. WellIf we must label why not label Detroit Techno as IDM too. Detroit Techno: Its MUSIC. People DANCE to it. And it is INTELLEGENT [as far as I'm concerned. [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 00:44:20 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] IDM? IDM ? only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music) all the best, akin fernandez - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Isn't it about time we had an acid house revival ?
The only thing that really ever knocked me for 6. Bring it back yeah boyeee check out 2 rmxs by afx and like vibert's EPs on planet mu. it should knock you out! ;-) rave on. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Japanese importers? Sublime
Try emailing Mr. Okhura from Comfort ( http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/ohkura/ENGLISH/main.html ) at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] He does a decent job at getting back to you...although buying Japanese releases from Japan is NOT cheap! jeff At 06:58 PM 8/28/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know where/which US or UK online record shops have a decent selection of Japanese import records - I'm very very interested in getting my hands on some Sublime records. I checked out their website but it's all in Japanese with no English language option - so it makes it rather difficult to figure out exactly what I'm doing. Maybe I'll just learn Japanese in three days. MEK - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Metroplex
first time user, so, sorry if this has been asked before. Leafing through some metroplex releases, i began to wonder which are originals and which are represses? I have sand, black and white labeled records... any thoughts pc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
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[313] Tickets for Last Dance at Motor (retry)
I think i'm having problems with my other email account so sorry for the re-post. Does anyone have an extra ticket they would be willing to sell for Acquaviva at Motor this Friday night? My Labor Day plans were cancelled at the last minute. I will be back home in the D. I saw yesterdays email from Motor stating all tickets were sold out. I was there when Motor opened and almost every Friday for the first 3 years. I would love to make the last night. Thanks, Ethan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Playlist...Future Music Radio
FUTURE MUSIC RADIO Playlist: Tuesday August 27, 2002 Tuesday's 7:30PM - 9:00PM on 89.3FM WRTC, Hartford, CT Listen live at www.wrtcfm.com Mixed and hosted by Kered ** Special 3 hour program ** 7:30 PM - 8:30 PM ** UNMIXED, FEATURED MUSIC IN ITS ENTIRETY ** 1. Reese Project I Believe (Laurent Garnier Mix) (Network, UK) 2. Koop Relaxin at Club FN (Dofrmeister Mix) (JCR, Germany) 3. Marshall Jefferson Move Your Body (Trax, USA) 4. Bis The End Starts Today (Tommie Sunshine Mix) (spinART, USA) 5. Slam Positive Education (Original) (Soma, UK) 6. Avril The Date (Bad Boy Chloe Mix) (F Communications, France) 7. Swayzak Make Up Your Mind (!K7, USA) 8. Q-Burns Abstract Message Innocent (King Britt Remix) (Eighth Dimension, USA) 9. Bobby Konders Nervous Acid (Massive B, USA) 8:30 PM - 10:30 PM ** LIVE MIX SESSION ** 10. Funky People Moonwalk (Nuphonic, UK) 11. Phaedra Holy Rollers (Buck Remix) (Straylight, USA) 12. Doc Martin Andre King A Little Gotten (Westbound, USA) 13. Miguel MIgs Steppin Up (Pulse Mix) (Yoshitoshi, USA) 14. Bidlo Wildlife (Complet Mix) (Shinichi, USA) 15. Steve Bug Common Factor The Pull (Tactile, USA) 16. Markus Mehta Stephan Riedel This Is Not America (Sector 616, USA) 17. Rythim is Rythim Drama (Transmat, USA) 18. Rythim is Rythim Salsa Life (Transmat, USA) 19. Jark Prongo Learning (JP, Netherlands) 20. Stephen Brown The Year Zero (Transmat, USA) 21. Octave One I Believe (Magic Juan Mix) (Transmat, USA) 22. D'Julz Acid Tricks (Ovum, USA) 23. Jeff Mills L8 (Purpose Maker, USA) 24. Jeff Mills Kat Race (Purpose Maker, USA) 25. Jeff Mills Call of the Wild (Purpose Maker, USA) 26. Ultracolor 29 (Scandium, France) 27. Percy X Time To Jack (Soma, UK) 28. Model 600 Update (Metroplex, USA) 29. Rythim is Rythim Dreams of Dreamers (Transmat, USA) 30. Galaxy 2 Galaxy Journey of the Dragons (Underground Resistance, USA) 31. Kenny Larkin Untitled, A1 (Art of Dance, USA) 32. Deetron y Samuel L Rico Que Rico (SLS, UK) 33. Envoy Sex Drive (Hi Sex Drive Mix) (Soma, UK) 34. Abe Duque Untitled A1 (White Label, USA) 35. Scan X Neurotronik (F Communications, France) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] LA peeps Theo Parrish in LA
First Mike Clark, now Theo. Ok, someone PLEASE tell me why I moved up to San Francisco from LA?!?!? Oh yeah, so I can miss seeing Buzz Goree at the FnF campout. that's right. :( Hope someone will be down there to enjoy it as much as I would. Last time Theo came to LA was at one of Marques Wyatte's Deep sundays. He started playing some scraping hihat deep techno sounds (sorry for my lack of spottin skills) and the floor thinned, one guy even yelled Play some house music . I think Headroom and Faith (and their crowds) have a broader pallette so this night is sure to be off the hook. These cats brought Rick Wade, Mike Huckaby, and TP down last year and it was definitely a night to remember, despite the lackluster attendance. Saturday September 28, 2002 Headroom and Faith present THEO PARISH Sound Signature. Detroit along with Smoggy days resident Djs Lillyanne and Paul T at Smoggy Days 1032 S. Grand Ave. Downtown Los Angeles 10PM - 6AM Full Bar for 21 and Over $20.00 For more info call 323.960.7855 http://www.headroomlosangeles.com _,.., /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ jamie /| /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/,-' hurlbut / / /_/_/_/_/_/_/,-'/ / /_/_/_/_/_/_,:../ / |,' hurlbotics.com |/ ' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Info on Elektric Soul / Blaktronics bay area
I just picked up the flyer for this today. Along with forementioned lineup of Blaktronics, Mixmaster Morris, Daddy G of Massive attack will be: Jonah Sharp (who opened for Carl Craig a few weeks ago with a great live set with Ableton live and a mouse, much livelier than the past material I've heard from him which was ambient and not pumpin funk), John Beltran, Miguel Migs and Lisa Shaw, and 100% Dynamite from Souljazz UK, which I thought was just a great popular series of compilations featuring old and rare Jamaican cuts, but I guess it's a live act? anyone have any info on this act? and locals including Markie of Wicked fame, and groovy live house outfit soulstice It all goes down on Sunday September 29 on Treasure Island. $35 in advance from bulletproofsf.com info 415-252-1000 . Can't wait. Jamie _,.., /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ jamie /| /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/,-' hurlbut / / /_/_/_/_/_/_/,-'/ / /_/_/_/_/_/_,:../ / |,' hurlbotics.com |/ ' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] IDM?
interestingly enough, the music that spawned the term (such as black dog's bytes and aphex's polygon window) has a *very* detroit sound. Sure - these guys had a lot of love for the sounds coming from Detroit at that time. I think that even before the Artifical Intelligence series on Warp (2 comps + a series of LPs including some by Polygon Window, Autechre, Black Dog, B12...), the thing that started it was the ART comps from Kirk Degiorgio's Applied Rhythmic Technology label ? Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dj godfather
heard an interview today with him done for australian radio... he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard for that long.looking forward to seeing him for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored youth radio station. for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dj godfather
anyone got any mixes of his to download then? -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:34 To: 313 Subject: [313] dj godfather heard an interview today with him done for australian radio... he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard for that long.looking forward to seeing him for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored youth radio station. for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dj godfather
A friend of mine manages to get quite a few of the triple-J mixes on mp3 , I'll try and ask him to have a look out for this godfather one .. Ill post to the list if I have any success ! Marc -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:26 AM To: 'Rc'; 313 Subject: RE: [313] dj godfather anyone got any mixes of his to download then? -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:34 To: 313 Subject: [313] dj godfather heard an interview today with him done for australian radio... he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard for that long.looking forward to seeing him for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored youth radio station. for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dj godfather
sorry - should've put the url. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/default.htm i think 10:30 pm EST enjoy rc on 29/8/02 8:26 PM, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone got any mixes of his to download then? -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:34 To: 313 Subject: [313] dj godfather heard an interview today with him done for australian radio... he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard for that long.looking forward to seeing him for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored youth radio station. for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dj godfather
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/mixup/sets/default.htm wow - looks like you can listen to the previous mix on the site - so hopefully the g/f one will get posted up next week !? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:46 AM To: Ian Cheshire; 313 Subject: Re: [313] dj godfather sorry - should've put the url. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen/default.htm i think 10:30 pm EST enjoy rc on 29/8/02 8:26 PM, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone got any mixes of his to download then? -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:34 To: 313 Subject: [313] dj godfather heard an interview today with him done for australian radio... he says some interesting things about the very poor dj skills of the multinational millionaire djs.he also mentioned he goes through 100 records in 60 minutesand doesn't play sets longer the 90 mins long because its too hard to bring enough records and to work the decks that hard for that long.looking forward to seeing him for australian list members - there'll be a 90 min set on JJJ national radio this week on the mix up show. it was recorded live last sunday at Detroit's St Andrews hall. The interview will be on the show too. Should be a bit of a contrast to what one would normally hear on the national state sponsored youth radio station. for international list members - I'm sure they webcast live rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Lost Weekend
Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. Opinions please! Cheers, K - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
According to reports, Carl Craig was pretty spectacular at Plastic People on Friday, and Atkins did the business @ Signal. I thought Mills was excellent, although I will admit that it wasn't the craziness of yore that I think most of the Lost regulars still yearn for from him. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. Opinions please! Cheers, K - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
I have to agree with you about Dale - much more robust and exciting than in previous years. I found Mills quite refreshing in that he veered away from his usual trickery and even managed to fit in Kings of Tomorrow and Donna Summer (no doubt that will make a few 313ers frown) without being cheesy. I know what you mean about Mills boredom though, Ken. We Brits seem to be happy with one good DJ over and over again rather than looking out for new talent. Why can't we have a few other Detroit DJs over - Terrance Parker, Kevin Saunderson, Mike Grant, Mike Huckaby etc, evn DJ Godfather would be welcome in the second room I think. They could also give a few British DJs a chance as well - Surgeon and Sims can compete with the best of the Detroit DJs. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. Opinions please! Cheers, K - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
I really enjoyed Carl Craig last friday at Plastic People, he played a nice set. Juan Atkins on sunday was amazing. The line-up was really good. The livesets from Portable (Background), Any Vaz and Jan Jelinek where amazing! Jan Jelinek had everybody dancing in the small backroom. Juan played a fantastic set. I danced all the way through his set. Played some new tracks and the old ones to. Only a bit sad to see that only about 300 people showed up. Fortunatly these people whre really into the music that night. [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to reports, Carl Craig was pretty spectacular at Plastic People on Friday, and Atkins did the business @ Signal. I thought Mills was excellent, although I will admit that it wasn't the craziness of yore that I think most of the Lost regulars still yearn for from him. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. Opinions please! Cheers, K - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost. Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry. the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone but he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two decks , heaven knows! but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400 they need to get there money back! Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was great, a good broad range of music through the years. Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing, so opted for Colin) was superb!like you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than Tanaka and Bicknell anyday. Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I say as he is always welcome in my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some home-grown talent. I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about, particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff. And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a miss. Plus Mills is also on on 21.9 in London. Opinions please! Cheers, K - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
Cheers all! There seems to be a consensus of 'generally good but please, more UK playas and don't let's get complacent.' ... Except Tanaka - jeez was he annoying!! Funny thing is, I saw him once in Tresor last year and another time at Lost some years ago. Either he has deteriorated or he was having a bad night, as on those previous two ocassions he was at least ok ... Re., the desire for something slightly out of the ordinary, do watch Lost as I hear that a party later this year may feature one massive name (never before at Lost) and one name that should be gigantic - both great US djs. Go figure! k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] *VINYL FOR SALE*
Hi All, for those that are interested - I'm selling off some music for a variety of reasons, so I've listed heaps on my website. Lots of Detroit techno/electro/house, chicago techno/house, disco, electro, ghettobass, italo and funk. UR, Frictional, Trax, DJAX, Shake, Curtin, Godfather, DJ Assault, Sound Signature, Moodymann, 7th City, DBX, Blake Baxter, Bunker, Keith Tucker, Rob Hood, Gigolo, Tony Allen, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, KMS, Metroplex, Biorhythms, Rick Wade, Peacefrog, Puzzlebox, DataBass, Intui-Solar, Tresor, VMax, KDJ, Theo Parrish, Track Mode, Fingers, Knuckles, DJ International, Kenny Dope, HotMix, Rosario, Jesse Saunders, Rush, Prince, Marshall Jefferson, Todd Terry, Central, Code Red, Meta, User, Newcleus, Bobby Orlando, Visage, Gino Soccio, Banana, Salsoul etc. http://home.iprimus.com.au/richardcranston/ reasonable prices. economy airmail. will ship anywhere. references available. thanks Rc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
So, what are people who label people who create music then? ;^) i dunno, i am just quoting akin... maybe that should be posted to irdial-records, they have top 5 questions pool still going on i belive :) so give it a try ! my answer would be : those people who label music makers bye rob p.s. what is braindance ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
- Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:47 AM Subject: RE: [313] IDM? interestingly enough, the music that spawned the term (such as black dog's bytes and aphex's polygon window) has a *very* detroit sound. Sure - these guys had a lot of love for the sounds coming from Detroit at that time. I think that even before the Artifical Intelligence series on Warp (2 comps + a series of LPs including some by Polygon Window, Autechre, Black Dog, B12...), the thing that started it was the ART comps from Kirk Degiorgio's Applied Rhythmic Technology label ? The ART series were released on New Electronica. I believe it was just the name of the comp(s). The last one (or two) may have been on OpArt, which New Electronica sorta morphed into (again, peicing together memories, but I'm pretty sure this is right). He also put out the 'Global Technological Innovations' series, which also be classified as IDM. If I remember right, I first heard the term in '93, and I think everyone's right, that it was inspired by WARP AI comps and took hold with the mailing list. Those WARP AI comps were seriously crucial in 'explaining' the link between Detroit and british electro f*ckery - think Kenny Larkin on AI II, or Azemuth's US release as an AI album (I think) - I know it was at least released through WARP stateside (never seen the import to know if it was originally a WARP release, although I'd assume it must be, unless RS had it). The other thing about this term is that it needs to be situated in a historical context. At least stateside, it came out of an aversion to 'rave' sounds, as things like 2 unlimited gained wider exposure. To this day, if you say anything about 'techno' to the uninitiated it evokes images of sporting events and jock jams. It became a tag to slap on your music that differentiated it from the stuff you (maybe) used as a gateway to musical enlightenment only a year or two earlier (lots of irony intended here). Also worth noting, when the term was coined, trance was firmly included in its domain - think Rising High, particularly Casper Pound and Mixmaster Morris, some trancier RS releases like Sun Electric, and Oliver Lieb. To follow through with this timeline, you could see the inclusion of trance in IDM fade quickly from about '95-'96 as the genre codified into its current form. As someone else mentioned, I think things like intelligent drum 'n bass were included as well. It's a completely crap term used mostly as short-hand b/c it basically meant 'music I like that isn't in an off-limits genre' and now means 'weird sh*t that isn't obviously something else'. :) Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
Tristan wrote: The other thing about this term is that it needs to be situated in a historical context. At least stateside, it came out of an aversion to 'rave' sounds, as things like 2 unlimited gained wider exposure. Ture. Probably the best way to think about it these days is as IDM, not I.D.M. (I think Brian Behlendorf and/or Alan Parry posted something to this effect at some point), just like radar and laser are abbreviations that have turned into normal terms pver time. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text A.R.T and New Electronica were two completely different companies. New Electronica just licensed some stuff from ART.. Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 29/08/2002 14:23:09 To:Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313' 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject:Re: [313] IDM? - Original Message - From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:47 AM Subject: RE: [313] IDM? interestingly enough, the music that spawned the term (such as black dog's bytes and aphex's polygon window) has a *very* detroit sound. Sure - these guys had a lot of love for the sounds coming from Detroit at that time. I think that even before the Artifical Intelligence series on Warp (2 comps + a series of LPs including some by Polygon Window, Autechre, Black Dog, B12...), the thing that started it was the ART comps from Kirk Degiorgio's Applied Rhythmic Technology label ? The ART series were released on New Electronica. I believe it was just the name of the comp(s). The last one (or two) may have been on OpArt, which New Electronica sorta morphed into (again, peicing together memories, but I'm pretty sure this is right). He also put out the 'Global Technological Innovations' series, which also be classified as IDM. If I remember right, I first heard the term in '93, and I think everyone's right, that it was inspired by WARP AI comps and took hold with the mailing list. Those WARP AI comps were seriously crucial in 'explaining' the link between Detroit and british electro f*ckery - think Kenny Larkin on AI II, or Azemuth's US release as an AI album (I think) - I know it was at least released through WARP stateside (never seen the import to know if it was originally a WARP release, although I'd assume it must be, unless RS had it). The other thing about this term is that it needs to be situated in a historical context. At least stateside, it came out of an aversion to 'rave' sounds, as things like 2 unlimited gained wider exposure. To this day, if you say anything about 'techno' to the uninitiated it evokes images of sporting events and jock jams. It became a tag to slap on your music that differentiated it from the stuff you (maybe) used as a gateway to musical enlightenment only a year or two earlier (lots of irony intended here). Also worth noting, when the term was coined, trance was firmly included in its domain - think Rising High, particularly Casper Pound and Mixmaster Morris, some trancier RS releases like Sun Electric, and Oliver Lieb. To follow through with this timeline, you could see the inclusion of trance in IDM fade quickly from about '95-'96 as the genre codified into its current form. As someone else mentioned, I think things like intelligent drum 'n bass were included as well. It's a completely crap term used mostly as short-hand b/c it basically meant 'music I like that isn't in an off-limits genre' and now means 'weird sh*t that isn't obviously something else'. :) Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Financial Services Authority for investment business activities. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information
[313] Re: New Visitor / Mark Broom album on D1
I'll have to say buy this LP! It's very classic detroit sounding stuff. And sounds more like old Pure Plastic stuff than what I've been hearing from mark and dave. Best stuff they have done in quite some time. Never got to hear the earlier D1 stuff but point me to where I can find it. This is nice music from a label to keep an eye on. Also big props to fellow 313 member Jason Brunton on his mixes of Agent K's feed the cat on Laws of Motion. This is some serious technosoul folks and I've already mentioned about those excellent Iridite releases that have already come out. What's this I hear about being signed to Transmat Jason!? care to fill us in? ;) = down low music http://downlowmusic.org SEPT: Arne Weinberg Beauty in Decay dL008 Convextion 12 dLVEXT1 OCT: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX NOV: Polarius 12 dL009 JAN: Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
Start of message text A.R.T and New Electronica were two completely different companies. New Electronica just licensed some stuff from ART.. yeah, beechwood (i think) are the people behind the new electronica comps robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] teste
this is just a teste. a big fat teste T! www.acidsonicresearch.com ~~go here www.mp313.com ~~and here PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] teste
_wipe_ that smile from yer face dunno why i bothered with that but for some reason couldn't resistone of those days r this is just a teste. a big fat teste T! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
from the tech-house mailing list: X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://techno.ca Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way above the rest of us? They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but by adding poetry, smell or visions? They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is actally fair (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
At 16:11 +0100 29-08-2002, Jason Donnelly wrote: from the tech-house mailing list: LOL! now that is a seriously frustrated kid :) X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://techno.ca Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way above the rest of us? They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but by adding poetry, smell or visions? They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is actally fair (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
That's hilarious! They raise quite a few serious points though: Detroit's deification is ridiculous, despite the many talents it has produced. Still, I'd rather hear Detroit over techyawnhouse -Original Message- From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! from the tech-house mailing list: X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://techno.ca Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way above the rest of us? They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but by adding poetry, smell or visions? They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is actally fair (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
Now there is a guy who just went to buy the new Keith Tucker record but found himself short of cash at the store... :) | | -Original Message- | From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:12 PM | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! | | | from the tech-house mailing list: | | | X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! | Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 | X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 | Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Organization: http://techno.ca | | Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? | Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher | musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? | These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way | above the | rest of us? | They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? | Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? | They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but | by adding poetry, smell or visions? | They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? | And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is | actally fair | (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your | phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit | imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. | | Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' | | | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not | necessarily | represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically | stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential | and intended | solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are | addressed. | If you have received this email in error, please notify | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) . -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 29 August 2002 12:12 Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost. Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry. the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone but he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two decks , heaven knows! but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400 they need to get there money back! Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was great, a good broad range of music through the years. Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing, so opted for Colin) was superb!like you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than Tanaka and Bicknell anyday. Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I say as he is always welcome in my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some home-grown talent. I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about, particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff. And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka, Mills, Steve Bicknell, Du-Kru et al. Missed Du Kru which was a disappointment as I wanted to see what the reax was from the main room. Any thoughts anyone? Tanaka was awkward - He appeared to ocassionally try mixing *deliberately* off the beat (or am I being too charitable?!?) Colin Dale (imho): supberb performance. Recently he's been veering more towards a house vein than techno, but there were a number of classics. A H-Foundation track early in the set nearly blew the roof off, (sorry track names not my forte but I know it was H-Fdn.) Dale is old school and it shows in the long mixes and precision, but he kept my attention for at least 2+ hours hope it's my perception and that he's not really slowly playing out less and less Mills was Mills and in very good form - 'Sweet Smell Of Fear' appeared, which was nice, as was 'I Feel Love' on a massive system ... However, I sense a boredom creeping in on Mills. A few regular faces were missing, plus already some are saying they'll give the next Lost at 28.9 (with Mills too) a
Re: [313] IDM?/labeling music
only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music) We label music to make things easier - imagine going to a record store and there is only one section:- MUSIC. Or trying to describe to someone what music you're into without mentioning any kind of label. Of course we need to label music. john - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
jason, do you know if this is from the same hungry dave that produces the spin cycle records? he's from leeds. funnily enough, he has a slight point :) cheers robin... from the tech-house mailing list: X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://techno.ca Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way above the rest of us? They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but by adding poetry, smell or visions? They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is actally fair (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?/labeling music
only idiots and musical beaurocrats are prone to labeling (music) We label music to make things easier - imagine going to a record store and there is only one section:- MUSIC. Or trying to describe to someone what music you're into without mentioning any kind of label. Of course we need to label music. exactlyif you ditch all the labels we now use when you go into a shop and ask for a record you'd just invent new labels. it's a form of pattern recognition, humans can't help it it's the main function of the brain robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
well you took the words out of my mouth Nicole, I guess I feel that yeah LOST has kinda become a norm for people that we all go there..why I never went to see Carl Craig? well my mates were going to LOST and etc etc.. Also I guess I am supportive to John K as I get my records and some great dealds of him, mainly promos that aren't out for 2 months etc , so its a difficult one. But yes I totally agree , next time I see another techno nite ( which will be the Marco Carola nite) i will be there and support that too,(If its as good as you say then let me in!) I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris Leibing, Adam Beyer, Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath etc Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people to the London scene. I would love to do this but my time is being torn ( this year) even more with gigs, work , life and children. Hopefully I will be going pro next year ( hopefully!) and I will have more time to promote a nite, and I have always said I will do this( as you know Nicole), and it will only have a one name person like say Mark Broom or Chris from Flux, to draw people, the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with UK talent. I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing. -Original Message- From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40 To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) . -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 29 August 2002 12:12 Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost. Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry. the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone but he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two decks , heaven knows! but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400 they need to get there money back! Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was great, a good broad range of music through the years. Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing, so opted for Colin) was superb!like you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than Tanaka and Bicknell anyday. Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I say as he is always welcome in my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some home-grown talent. I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about, particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff. And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. One day they will be a nite that will bring new and
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
mate I fancy the 28th at the Tate, thats sounds like a fun nite out..what do you reckon? -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:35 To: Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern Jesus, I'd imagine the chin-strokers will be out in force for that one! Minimal techno in the modern art museum if you don't mind!!! Only joking, should be good. - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
you got it James! ha ha chin stroke or chin wobble by itself, hmmm I reckon the later for me, well once a month is ok :0) -Original Message- From: james boylan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern Jesus, I'd imagine the chin-strokers will be out in force for that one! Minimal techno in the modern art museum if you don't mind!!! Only joking, should be good. - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
So the UK art establishment has gotten over the shock of seeing Jeff Mills fans invading the stage at the Royal Festival Hall? :) It definitely sounds like a good night out though! | -Original Message- | From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:37 PM | To: 'Toby Frith'; Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org | Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend | | | mate I fancy the 28th at the Tate, thats sounds like a | fun nite out..what do you reckon? | | | | -Original Message- | From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 29 August 2002 16:35 | To: Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org | Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend | | | I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that | were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters | who had used | it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure | that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and | Jan Jelenik | (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and | innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. | | Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric | Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern | | | - Original Message - | From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' | [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM | Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend | | | man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their | bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the | floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them | subscribe to this | list? | sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of | Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco | Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame | its | on Thursday. | | It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. | Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who | support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. | And | the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting | that I had to | keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. | Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track | selection | and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were | worth going | to hear on their own merits. | Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of | London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but | we've all seen | him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been | really special | for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides | 3hrs | of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! | Put your money where your mouth is and attend something | different and not | just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old | stuff :) | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree with his point about being philisophical poets the rest sounds like a bad-day-at-the-office rant to me. music transcends locale. if detroit records cost 2-3 pounds more, *I* wouldn't buy them. there is much more good music available and a lot of it is better than whats coming out of detroit. - Original Message - From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! from the tech-house mailing list: X-Authentication-Warning: c.techno.ca: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: techno.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic! Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:54:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: http://techno.ca Right. We all know detroit music is amazing yeah? Just existing as a producer in detroit means you are living on a higher musical plane than the rest of us fools yeah? These detroit guys have an understanding of electronic music way above the rest of us? They are hearing stuff in the music that we don't (or can't)hear? Not only are they all fantastic producers but also philisophical poets? They understand how to complete the concept, not just with the music but by adding poetry, smell or visions? They know that only truly great records come vaccum packed? And for these reasons (and probably millions of others) it is actally fair (even thought it may not seem it -this is a problem with your phillisophical attitude, i suggest you transend yourself) that detroit imports cost about 2-3 pounds more than other 'standard imports'. Pay for your enlightenment you ignorant fools of the 'outerworld' - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. you know that jan IS farben right? another alias jan uses is gramm. just an fyi -joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
I'll have 1 then :0) -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:49 To: Toby Frith; Nicole Slavin; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. you know that jan IS farben right? another alias jan uses is gramm. just an fyi -joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room into the next. So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied and excellent techno set, are spinning. Oh, sound at Mass is pants as well -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 29 August 2002 16:36 Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
Count me in. Looking forward to hearing Gary Martin. Any 313ers heard him DJ? -Original Message- From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:29 PM To: Toby Frith; Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room into the next. So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied and excellent techno set, are spinning. Oh, sound at Mass is pants as well -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 29 August 2002 16:36 Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend I'm wishing now that I choose Signal over Lost, but my concerns with that were over the sound at the venue, which, according to promoters who had used it, was seriously dodgy, although this has now been cleared up. I'm sure that things are on the up in London, as the likes of Farben and Jan Jelenik (sp) will hopefully pave the way for some of the more interesting and innovative European live acts to play over here on a regular basis. Sept 7th - Fabrice Lig @ Fabric Sept 28th - Vladislavy Delay at the Tate Modern - Original Message - From: Nicole Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] motor this friday
HI, I know this is way way last minute, but I think I lost my goddamn ticket for this friday. I still have to completely take apart my studio to be sure, but in the off chance that I did, does anyone have a way of hooking me up with another? motor has been a big part of the last few years for me, so missing friday would be pretty disappointing./ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
The sound in the main room wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible either. However, the sound for the live acts was pretty good. I remember sound problems at the last Lost cause of the seepage of sound from the main room into the next. So, who's going to Flux? I reckon rm2 is the one to watch out for as that's where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied gary martin in the uk? i really need to see him play robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
where Gary Martin and Ryan Blackman, Flux resident who plays a really varied gary martin in the uk? i really need to see him play what i mean by that is: Gary if yer listening, play more in the uk!! :) robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] IDM (and Braindance).
As a long-time IDM list veteran, I'm going to pick a few nits here. Long, yet necessary (in my pathological trainspottery opinion). On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Tristan Watkins wrote: The ART series were released on New Electronica. I believe it was just the name of the comp(s). The last one (or two) may have been on OpArt, which New Electronica sorta morphed into (again, peicing together memories, but I'm pretty sure this is right). He also put out the 'Global Technological Innovations' series, which also be classified as IDM. Applied Rhythmic Technology, also known as A.R.T. was a very influential detroit-influenced label run by Kirk DeGiorgio from 1992 to 1995. In 1996, because of a name conflict, A.R.T. morphed into Operation Applied Rhythmic Technology, or Op-Art, as the umbrella title for the entire organisation and the record label Most of the A.R.T. releases showcased various artists, e.g. DeGiorgio's projects Future/Past, As One, Esoterik, and Elegt; Ed Handley and Andy Turner's (then two thirds of Black Dog Productions, now know as Plaid) Balil and Atypic; Carl Craig's Psyche and B.F.C., Steve Pickton's (Stasis) Phenomyna, and B12's (Mike Golding/Steve Rutter) Redcell and Cmetric. The first CD release on A.R.T. was a joint compilation with another up-and-coming IDM-referenced label, RePHLeX (run by Grant Wilson-Claridge and Richard D. James, also known as the Aphex Twin, Caustic Window, Polygon Window, Pac-Man, and The Dice Man). On this compilation, you can find the first appearance of Aphex Twin's Blue Calx (under the name Blue Calx), later released on Selected Ambient Works II on Warp, as well as the only known Q-Chastic track from the fabled 2x7 (CAT002) on RePHLeX. Here's a quick discography: ART1Future/Past; As One; Balil; Atypic (12, 1992) ART2CD Various - The Philosophy of Sound and Machine (CD, 1992) ART2.1 Various - The Philosophy of Sound and Machine pt. 1 (12, 1992) ART2.2 Various - The Philosophy of Sound and Machine pt. 2 (12, 1992) ART3Psyche/B.F.C. [Carl Craig] (12, 1993) ART4CD Various - Applied Rhythmic Technology (CD, 1994) ART5CD Phenomyna - Unexplained (CD, 1994) ART5.1 Phenomyna - Explained (remixes) pt. 1 (12, 1994) ART5.2 Phenomyna - Explained (remixes) pt. 2 (12, 1994) ART6Elegy - Ensemble (12, 1994) ART7.1 Various, split with B12 Records (B1214.1) (12, 1994) ART7.2 Various, split with B12 Records (B1214.2) (12, 1994) Op-Art had only six releases, one by the now ubiquitous drum'n'bass favourite Photek, one by Autocreation (K. Hector and T. Patterson), one by The 4th Wave (Steve Paton) who also had a release on Planet E, one by Sensurreal and two by Paul W. Teebrooke, another one of Steve Pickton's aliases (besides Stasis etc.). As an aside, Steve Paton ran another quite influential and short-lived IDM-referenced label called The 4th Wave with releases by Ian O'Brian, Wavescape etc. OP1 Photek - T'raenon (12, 1996) OP2 Autocreation - Caught Short (12, 1996) OP3 The 4th Wave - Attention Please (12, 1996) OP4 Paul W. Teebrooke - Nova (12, 1996) OP5 Sensurreal - Newbranddesign (12, 1997) OP6 Paul W. Teebrooke - Connections (2xLP/CD, 1996) Now, to explain the connection between A.R.T./Op-Art and Beechwood Music's sublabel New Elecronica, let me guide your attention towards a couple of snippets from my New Electronica discography (which can be found in it's entirety from http://www.diversion.org/new_electronica.txt): ELEC5LP/CD (2xLP/CD, 1994) As One (Kirk DeGiorgio) ``Reflections'' ELEC6T (12, 1994, Ltd. clear vinyl) As One (Kirk Degiorgio) ELEC9LP (4xLP only, 1994, limited edition, 1000 copies) Various Artists ``Objets D'Art'' ELEC23LP/CD (2xLP/CD, 1995) As One (Kirk DeGiorgio)``Reflections On Reflections'' ELEC25T (12, 1995) As One (Kirk Degiorgio) ELEC26LP/CD (2xLP/CD, 1995) As One (Kirk Degiorgio) ``Celestial Soul'' ELE27CD (2xCD only, 1996) Various Artists ``Objets D'Art 92::95'' ELEC31CD (CD only, 1997) Various Artists ``Objets D'Art III'' The first albums by Kirk DeGiorgio (Reflections, Reflections on Reflections (a remix album of the first), and Celestial Soul) were released on New Electronica between the years 1994 and 1995 - the gap between A.R.T.'s demise and the beginning of Op-Art. ELEC9LP is a compilation of the first four vinyl releases on A.R.T., ART1, ART2.1, ART2.2 and ART3 - supposedly pressed from the same plates as the original. ELEC27CD is a compilation of the whole catalogue of the original A.R.T. releases, released on CD only. ELEC31CD is a CD-only compilation of Op-Art releases. Later on, Kirk released an album on Clear (The Message In Herbie's Shirts on vinyl, In With Their Arps and Moogs and Jazz and Things on CD), one on French Shield (The Art Of Prophecy). He still releases music under the name As One, most recently on Ubiquity. If I remember right, I first heard the term in '93, and I think everyone's right, that it was inspired by WARP AI comps and took hold with the
[313] idm (today and yesterday) + boards of canada
just a little rant on IDM music. i suppose when this genre was first coined, the title had been started to reflet the works mentioned earlier (black dog, aphex, etc) which by all means were great releases, but it seems that now, as time goes on IDM (Inteligent Dance Music) is less focused on music that reflects its title entirely, and more focused on experimental electronic music, regardless of its dance-friendly aspects. one thing that ive found in listening to alot of the releases that get filed under IDM is that being a particularly small nitche, it has alot of even smaller sub genre that get grouped into it as well. actualy...i can remember a year or two ago, before the electroclash explosion, electro seemed to get grouped into IDM as well as alot of the new dub, drum and bass, and even micro-techno that was being released. from what i understand,the title IDM was pretty much coined for use primarily to discuss the music on the IDM list, which some of us are subscribed too. i also remember a discussion a while ago...on that list...about changing its name from idm to things like ILM (inteligent listening music) to better fit its new soundsbut as more releases get pressed, the sound keeps changing...so it gets harder and harder to find an acurate name. if you notice as well, as time goes on, the IDM musics of yesterday seemed to gain momentum within its own subculture...and then got marked as another kind of music, after enough of a similar sound got made. such as glitch, bip-hop or chip tune. artists like funkstorung and autechre (which were previously titled IDM ) artist have spawned an entirely new genre based around a particular style of a previous music. none the less, i think this is just another example of the great phrase labels are only for jars. actualy i find it interesting that in most cases people almost need a name in order to identify with a media, no matter how experimental the platform is. speaking of IDM, i also wanted to mention that IMO, the US has been long overdue for a live performance by boards of canada. being that they play seldomly in their native area, its not suprising that noone has booked them here yet, but of all the IDM artists that i think deserve a stage here, these guys are deffinately on the top of my list. i remember a small thread about them here on 313 maybe six months to a year ago, so i know im not the only one waiting to see such an event happen. hopefully one day ill get to see that. ok im done now. thanks for listening. mike (tangible) www.fulcruminn.net www.8bitpeoples.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
I guess I am spoilt by the European side I play in . I get to see Chris Leibing, Adam Beyer, Gayle San (when was she here last?) La-Di-da , RUSH, Sven Vath etc i gotta say that this doesn't seem spoilt to me in the face of what i heard this weekend (Carl Craig at Plastic People was brilliant too). but then i'm a 313 girl, just keep bringing them over and i'll be there (someone listening i hope :) Like I said I wanna see a nite that will bring new faces , new people to the London scene. the rest I would like to be new faces and support the uk scene with UK talent. I mean its gotta change and change is a good thing. Well, i don't want the UK 313 scene to turn into a European techno scene. I don't mind a bit of home grown, but I prefer it to be along a 313 vein. It can still be kept fresh within this context, as the Signal night proved. -Original Message- From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 16:40 To: Ian Cheshire; 'Odeluga, Ken'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: Re: [313] Lost Weekend man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. It's interesting that people should say this about the uk techno scene. Maybe the problem is not only with the promoters but with the people who support the scene. I mean, the line up for the Signal night was amazing. And the music at the actual night was so superb and interesting that I had to keep on running backwards and forwards between the two rooms. Not only did the night have the drawcard of Juan (fantastic track selection and good mixing too!), but all the other artists featured were worth going to hear on their own merits. Yet nearly every techno listener i know on this list and in the rest of London chose to go to Lost. Why? I like Jeff Mills too but we've all seen him play loads of times at Lost and Lost has also not been really special for a long time. It's huge and crowded, Steve Bicknell always provides 3hrs of torturously boring music and we've had a full 10 years of it! Put your money where your mouth is and attend something different and not just the same old stuff which you complain about cause it's the same old stuff :) . -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Date: 29 August 2002 12:12 Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend I am gonna stand me ground here and say a few things about Lost. Dru Kru- me personally would like to watch paint dry. the venue was too small for Jeff, but good for the Colin 's. I could not stand Tanaka set. He did not realise that his third deck tone arm had gone but he continued to mix on it and it kept jumping, why he did not run with two decks , heaven knows! but even then his mixing was not impressive. If he got paid more than £400 they need to get there money back! Sound system was ok and got better when Jeff came on. I think Jeff's set was great, a good broad range of music through the years. Colin Dale (as I and I am sorry to say this, cannot stand Bicknell's mixing, so opted for Colin) was superb!like you say, very housey but on form, not taking to many risks but better than Tanaka and Bicknell anyday. Mills is back too soon to LOST for Light sound thingy..Bring back RUSH I say as he is always welcome in my book and he hasn't been there for a while. ALso why don't they get some home-grown talent. I feel that they really do miss out on the talent that is about, particularly John Kennedy and Arthur Smith. Ok I know these guys but John can never say he plays at LOST cos of copyright stuff. And why they never book Arthur of Grain , I mean the guy on three decks would piss on Tanaka..man LOST wanna not become to stagnant in their bookings. to have Jeff is excellent but they must keep their ear to the floor and listen to the people.. I mean do any of them subscribe to this list? sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2002 11:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: [313] Lost Weekend Last weekend here in London was very 313, with Atkins, Mills, Craig and maybe a couple of others to be seen over the holiday (inc. Monday) Now that we've all probably recovered ;o) how did folk find the various nights? I went to *** LOST *** which featured Colin Dale, Fumiya Tanaka,
RE: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
-- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Detroit's deification is ridiculous, despite the many talents it has produced. i dont think its ridiculous. if people in other cities were doing what the detroit guys have done and are doing, theyd get the propers to go with it. its like trying to say london is overrated for the drum and bass people that come from there. or that kingston is overrated for the dub/roots/dancehall that comes from there. these are the main cities in their fields for a reason tom andythepooh.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Lost Weekend
What about the flux night this weekend with Stacey Pullen, Gary Martin Ben Sims? http://www.fluxrecordings.com/ wish I could make it. smc - Original Message - From: Ian Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Odeluga, Ken' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [313] Lost Weekend sorry if I have gone off on one but the uk pees me off with the lack of Techno, the only thing coming to London that is new is the Marco Carola..thank god for a new nite and some exciting prospects but shame its on Thursday. One day they will be a nite that will bring new and exciting things here. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lost Weekend
Carl Craig @ PP was just brilliant. That tiny pitch black room has the best sound system in London, forget Fabric and it's body sonic room, this little room fills nicely with people having their guts squeezed by bass. It's the only place I feel comfortable without my ER-25s firmly in place, cos the sound is just so clean. Carl played such a great set, it was so varied, and as ever @ PP one felt one was experiencing something special and exclusive. He played jazz, funk, house, techno, ambient, some electro and african tribal stuff. Awesome from start to end. There was a 25 minute or so period, from when he played 69, on through to Fix Flash and beyond, when the crowd was just mental, but they were pretty mad the whole time, even when he played the strings mix of Jaguar (the only time I've ever heard that track played when it wasn't just for impact/effect).. with the crowd gasping for a beat, only for him to play an old heavy chorded ambient remix of his from yonks ago which went on for another 10 minutes or so. Magic. The resident DJ was also excellent, but I forget his name. Anyway, that night was definitely one of the best music nights out for a long time. I really enjoyed Lost, but not until about half way through Bicknell's set. Du-Kru, who I think are excellent and have seen them play brilliantly, were lacklustre, and I'm not surprised given that they were stuck in the corner of the large main room with the volume knob set to about 1.5. Should have been in the smaller room I reckon. Fumiya, well I dunno what happened to him,but it's the first time I've heard him play badly. He was really bad,didn't seem to notice one deck skipping constantly, bland tracks, bad mixes. What happened? Seriously, the only time I've ever felt like I couldn't follow a DJ was when I played after Fumiya in Tokyo last year, but this time I was not impressed one bit. As I said, Bicknell's set seemed to start off where Fumiya's finished, but developed nicely. People complain about him letting tracks play and then cutting straight to another, but I always loved that in his style, and he played some wicked tracks. Jeff played the best I've heard him since about '97. Not as good as then by a long way, but he certainly rocked and I was not disappointed. I liked the way he let tracks play rather than quickfire mixing, I like to listen to tracks for a while. Plenty of what the f**k? moments, some nice breakdowns, a great vibe, lots of lovely sweating. A great night out indeed. Not too sure about the rapid return in a month though. The last one was a month ago, this is the first time Lost parties have been a month apart for maybe 6 or 7 years. Interested to know who Ken's names are. Nice to see you again Ken, (and Toby of course). RE: other DJs, I agree, but Lost is their party and I'd never presume to tell them how to run it, after all they've been running one of the worlds most revered techno night for 10 years now, they must know what they're doing. Attendance is still strong, which is a paradox in the London environment. How they've managed it for so long is totally beyond me. Max --- http://www.ARCart.org --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Advent in Detroit?
I recall seeing something about September 20th. Does anyone have details? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] my motor ticket for tomorrow
well, I just tore apart my studio FBI style and cant find that f'ing ticket. SO, Im off for an hour drive to flint to get another ticket from ticketmaster. (Im in midland, 2 hours north of detroit, not many ticketmasters around here) according to the guy on the phone from ticketmaster, they have around 100 tickets left. so go get em, but wait till I have mine :)) go motor! Im paying 40 bux to see your last event. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Subject: RE: [313] IDM?
the later a.r.t comps were licensed to new electronica - but before that there was 'the philosophy of sound and machine' a.r.t/rephlex.. if memory serves me right (i'm getting old) those new electronica comps (global technological innovations, etc) were put together by dave crawley from fatcat (heaven in those days).. don't forget 'virtual sex' on buzz either - really important comp in it's own way 'cause it featured detroit and uk artists (and i still wear the 3-d glasses).. 'intergalactic beats' on planet-e and 'agenda 21' on eevolute too.. they all made the link to detroit pretty strong in the early days of idm.. probably good they went their seperate ways mind ;) stephen _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] please help
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Art, OpArt and NE
- Original Message - From: Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: [313] IDM (and Braindance). As a long-time IDM list veteran, I'm going to pick a few nits here. Long, yet necessary (in my pathological trainspottery opinion). Whew! I stand corrected. :) So if I understand correctly, this would mean the Global Technological Innovations series was not related to Kirk DeGiorgio, and his connection to New Electronica was only through Art, right? This post from Dave Siska did not make it through to the list, but would appear to confirm my suspicion: actually i don't think this is quite right. the ART series were indeed released on ART first, and then the first 4 12 releases were compiled into the 'objets d'art' compilation on new electronica. there were indeed a couple of CD-only comps on the ART label itself. the first one, 'the philosophy of sound and machine', jointly released with rephlex, is rather sought-after. a great ART page is here: http://home.snafu.de/circonium/music/art.html i don't believe there is any relation between new electronica and ART, other than the objets d'art compilation. i could be wrong about that, though, since a great deal of kirk degiorgio's work was featured on new electronica, and the two labels, along with buzz, seem to have released music from a number of the same artists. it is true that ART morphed into op-art, starting out with a really lush release from photek. Tristan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Subject: RE: [313] IDM?
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: [313] Subject: RE: [313] IDM? if memory serves me right (i'm getting old) those new electronica comps (global technological innovations, etc) were put together by dave crawley from fatcat (heaven in those days).. Doh! You already answered my question. Tristan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
The ART series were released on New Electronica. I believe it was just the name of the comp(s). The last one (or two) may have been on OpArt, which New Electronica sorta morphed into (again, peicing together memories, but I'm pretty sure this is right)... Just to clear this up: ART (Applied Rhythmic Technology) was Kirk DeGiorgio's original label. New Electronica (a division of Beechwood) released three 'Objet D'Art' compilations which licensed the ART material. New Electronica released plenty of other stuff besides the ART stuff, they were a totally different company. ART later became OpArt. Full ART discog: http://www.twoplayer.co.uk/labels/art/ Full OpArt discog: http://www.twoplayer.co.uk/labels/opart/ See also: http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/ Cheers, Tom | tom churchill | emoticon recordings | http://www.emoticonrecordings.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OpArt
- Original Message - From: tom churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [313] IDM? Full OpArt discog: http://www.twoplayer.co.uk/labels/opart/ After looking over all of these, it reminded me just how ahead of their time these records were, particularly the Steve Patton and Sensurreal records on OpArt, which prefigure the broken beat sounds of today IMHO. Obviously there were tons of essential contributions, but these in particular seem the most forward-looking to me. Tristan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow
alright, ticketmaster lied. they refer you to motor, which of course isnt open, and their voicemail is full so, if anyone wants to sell a ticket... :) -Joe - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow well, I just tore apart my studio FBI style and cant find that f'ing ticket. SO, Im off for an hour drive to flint to get another ticket from ticketmaster. (Im in midland, 2 hours north of detroit, not many ticketmasters around here) according to the guy on the phone from ticketmaster, they have around 100 tickets left. so go get em, but wait till I have mine :)) go motor! Im paying 40 bux to see your last event. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] playlist WNUR Chicago: 23 August 2002
Clinically Inclined 23 August 2002 9:30 pm - 12:30 am CST live stream www.wnur.org during showtime / 89.3 FM in Chicago 9:30 - 10:45pm Special guest DJ Dr. Attaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Billy Frazier - Billy Who - Vol.2 (Garage Classics) Street Beat - Do The Flex (Coko Records) Tyree - Crash Instrumental - Video Crash (Rockin House) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams - Rumours - (Warner Bros '77) Phuture - Acid Trax (S12) Nightlife Unlimited - Peaches Prunes Fade II Black - In Sync (Fragile) Sun La Shan - Catch, vocal version (Super Radio '85) Cabaret Voltaire - Sluggin Fer Jesus - In The Beginning There Was Rhythm (Soul Jazz) Chip E - Time To Jack (Jack Trax) Velodrome - Capitaz (Animalized '88) Tom Tom Club - Wordy Rappinghood re-edit (bootleg) Melody Boy 2000 - Monotone Fantastique (DUM) Arthur Russel - Let's Go Swimming - Disco Not Disco 2 (Strut) Funkadelic - Super Stupid - Maggot Brain (Westbound '71) Cloud One - Patty Duke (Sound of New York) The Rotary Connection - I am The Blackgold Of The Sun - Hey Love (Cadet '67) 10:45 - 11:00pm Intermission: Matt MacQueen Maze feat. Frankie Beverly - Joy Pain - Joy Pain LP (Capitol '80) Ron Trent - A1 - Dark Room (Balance) Art of Noise - Closer (To The Edit) (ZTT '83) OMD - Apollo - Junk Culture (Warner Bros '84) 11:00pm - 12:30am Selector: Dr. Siska Peel Seamus - Isolation- Elusive Souls (Delsin) Symbols Instruments - Mood (optimisitc mix) (Network) Bango - Ritual Beating System (Fragile) Derek Carr - Paris Metro - Initial Transmission (Digital Soul) Norken - Fern - Spring Themes (Hydrogen Dukebox) PSI Performer- 1990 Move D remix (K20) Fluxion - Prospect ii (Chain Reaction) Andreas Fragel - From 3 to 4 (MOS) Josh Brent - Aliena's Journey (Shatrax) Jeff Samuel - Nile (Emoticon) Paul Mac - My Obvious Influences - Old School Former Pupil (Fragmented) Sterac - Darkness in My Life (100% Pure) Random XS - Program 9 - Encounter (Djax) Basic Channel - Octagon (Basic Channel) Surgeon - A1 - Learning (Dymanic Tension) Percy X - Afterplan - Afterplan (Soma) Oliver Ho - Motion - Dream Your Life (Surface) Mark Broom - Drift (Mosaic) Terry Brookes - Mind Machine - Breaking Cycles (Deepart) *** SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT *** fire up those old tape decks ! This Friday Aug. 30th, Clinically Inclined welcomes special guest DJ 3000 from Submerge, Detroit. He will be testing new and unreleased Submerge and UR-related material. Tune in to 89.3FM or online stream at www.wnur.org from 9:30pm - 12:30am CST. This will act as a follow-up to his appearance on Thursday night (tonight!) at Chicago's Smart Bar, 3730 N Clark. Peace. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] please help
windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
I would try that first. If that doesn't work...if I remember correctly, you reboot and press F8 while it's booting so that you enter into the windows adv. options menu, then select last known good configuration. -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:01 PM To: Chris Dooley; Darren Longton (Merch) Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fwd: (tech-house) Minor rant on a new topic!
That is same hungry dave - latest release Drug Games iirc. Cheers, Anya On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 04:33 PM, robin pinning wrote: jason, do you know if this is from the same hungry dave that produces the spin cycle records? he's from leeds. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] please help
sorry about the one liner, but windows update? do you mean moving os to xp? or from the ms site, which i am now afraid of? not sure what u mean here, sorry. d ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 04:00PM windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
He means the part of MS's website called windows update. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:11 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help sorry about the one liner, but windows update? do you mean moving os to xp? or from the ms site, which i am now afraid of? not sure what u mean here, sorry. d ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 04:00PM windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] please help
in internet explorer, select tools and then windows update fuking pissed about losing his motor ticket, - Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help He means the part of MS's website called windows update. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:11 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help sorry about the one liner, but windows update? do you mean moving os to xp? or from the ms site, which i am now afraid of? not sure what u mean here, sorry. d ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 04:00PM windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] please help
yup...or just go to windows.com and select Support...it's in there too. -Original Message- From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:19 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); Chris Dooley Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help in internet explorer, select tools and then windows update fuking pissed about losing his motor ticket, - Joe - Original Message - From: Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help He means the part of MS's website called windows update. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:11 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] please help sorry about the one liner, but windows update? do you mean moving os to xp? or from the ms site, which i am now afraid of? not sure what u mean here, sorry. d ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 04:00PM windows update will allow you to remove any patch installed on your system from microsoft. -Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Dooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i installed the new media player along with explorer 6 a month or so ago for the computer that runs 98se, that i use for internet, downloads, and various odd jobs. do u know how one might do that similiar function in 98se? also would uninstalling media player work and then just stripping it's program folder of all its contents? or does it hide this somewhere else in the registry or in the windows folder? i have spoke with many people and noone has a clue. d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:26PM You already did that on 98se? cause 98 does have a similar function...just not as easy to use. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:29 PM To: Darren Longton (Merch); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] please help yes i understand that for xp, but how about 98se? i did that on my 98se computer? d Darren Longton (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/02 03:16PM If you have XP you can roll back to a previous state via system restoreprobably the best option on that beast. -Original Message- From: Chris Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] please help http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/29/1254230.shtml?tid=109 how the hell do you get all this crap off the computer!!! this is sick and i believed i did install this 1 month or so ago. help, as i am about to drive over bill's face with a tractor. d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow
I to did not get a ticket, would like to go, but not to stressed about it. since I got a letter from paxahau stating that the works will be open for the afterparty @ midnight and it only $5 so if anyone has a ticket to sell I would buy it but not worried with the afterparty and control 3 I will be beat down by monday afternoon. scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow alright, ticketmaster lied. they refer you to motor, which of course isnt open, and their voicemail is full so, if anyone wants to sell a ticket... :) -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow
yes, the pax party... but john acquaviva is my FAV DJ. and I really wanted to be there the last night of motor. if I come across more than one ticket, I will be sure to let you all know -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow I to did not get a ticket, would like to go, but not to stressed about it. since I got a letter from paxahau stating that the works will be open for the afterparty @ midnight and it only $5 so if anyone has a ticket to sell I would buy it but not worried with the afterparty and control 3 I will be beat down by monday afternoon. scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [313] my motor ticket for tomorrow alright, ticketmaster lied. they refer you to motor, which of course isnt open, and their voicemail is full so, if anyone wants to sell a ticket... :) -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] off topic but fun nonetheless
hello all- i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes. i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible. THANKS -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
hello all- i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive acid house tracks for downloading purposes. i'm hoping to fill up at least a cd with mp3 tracks so i'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible. THANKS -sam Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago classics, here are a few off the top of my head that possibly wont make too many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again (I often do) Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines aside these dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', but if youre just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :) Twister - Underground Resistance Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!) That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours album. Plasticity - Plastikman The final Frontier - UR Vertigo - K Alexi Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes :) Stewart ___ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] IDM?
What happened to New Electronica? - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [313] IDM? Start of message text A.R.T and New Electronica were two completely different companies. New Electronica just licensed some stuff from ART.. yeah, beechwood (i think) are the people behind the new electronica comps robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Vegas
I am just trying to do a news item on the Vegas conference - does anyone have the Web site for it? I had a crash a few months ago and had to reinstall a lot of stuff and I lost my 'favourites' sites! Also, does anyone have an update on whether it's still going ahead - it sounds cool, but I haven't heard much about it on this list. Thanks CW - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following: Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes :) universal indicator ep's i guess. i've got the red (TR-606 ep) one and the blue (TB-303 ep) one. (and there was green and yellow ones too). megamixed cd of about all of those tracks was released on Rephlex some time ago, if you find it, check the track timings. 1:01, 3:03, 6:06 and so on. my guess would be that these ep's are very difficult to get although i've seen some of them on ebay occasionally. sakke -- random rants and links at: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless
I remember the endless debates on IDM about who made those records - Aphex did the red one, Kosmik Kommando did the blue one, etc etc... The red one was probably my favourite - the hi-hats sounded like screaming metallic beasts incarcerated in their fiery, acidic hell! | -Original Message- | From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:55 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Cc: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2002 about following: | | Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I think | were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 and 808 | made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in one big | sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes :) | | universal indicator ep's i guess. i've got the red (TR-606 ep) one and | the blue (TB-303 ep) one. (and there was green and yellow ones too). | megamixed cd of about all of those tracks was released on Rephlex some | time ago, if you find it, check the track timings. 1:01, 3:03, 6:06 | and so on. | | my guess would be that these ep's are very difficult to get although i've | seen some of them on ebay occasionally. | | | sakke | -- | random rants and links at: | http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
