Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread techno
on 11/17/02 4:09 PM, Forrest L Norvell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 point #2, IDM was not NAMED after the hyperreal mailing list.
 
 I joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] in September of 1993, soon after its
 formation. The preceding summer, Warp had released the first round of
 (artificial intelligence) records. Brian Behlendorf, the owner of
 Hyperreal and the founder of idm, had needed a name for the new list,
 and since the Warp series was called (artificial intelligence) and it
 was at least partially the model for the kind of music he wanted to
 discuss, I think he decided Intelligent Dance Music was as good a name
 as any. To my knowledge that was the first usage of the term IDM
 anywhere. Less than a year later, Warp brought out the compilation
 Artificial Intelligence 2, and Designers Republic incorporated
 postings from the idm list into their sleeve art.
 
 To me, the conclusion's pretty inescapably obvious.

I stand corrected.
I didn't realize the IDM list was around before the Artificial Intelligence
compilations.

 
 Do people really take mailing list seriously?
 I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community of fans
 have such a big impact on the scene.
 
 The hard core of musicians and fans that push the techno bean along
 with their noses is very small. San Francisco has a pretty big
 reputation in the international (intelligent) techno scene because of
 people like Kit Clayton and Sutekh, and even though I'm no big cheese
 in the scene, I know both of those guys and say hi when I see them at
 shows. Sutekh, at least, I originally knew through the sf-raves
 mailing list, and I met Kit at MAD, which was for many years the only
 club night that focused on techno as such in San Francisco.
 
 Folks like Morgan Geist and Darshan Jesrani used to be active
 participants on this list, to say nothing of the ongoing involvement
 of Alan Oldham (although the list appears to have pissed him off one
 time too many, more's the pity),
 Sean Deason, and Todd Sines (among
 others). I'm pretty sure Fabrice Lig was a poster here before he
 started releasing music. The same goes for idm, where folks like CiM
 were posting to the list long before they started releasing
 music. It's an open-ended question (as per above) as to how
 influential these lists are, but in the small and relatively closed
 universe of techno, online forums have a large and growing presence.
 
 yrz,
 Forrest

I guess you have a point but that only represents a small percentage of the
growing techno scene.
I can name a long list of artist that are highly successful like Dave
Clarke, DJ Rush, or Robert Hood (Detroit techno man of the year) who do not
promote or participate on
mailing list.






(313) tune ID needed!

2002-11-18 Thread Recoil
hi - trying to ID a tune- it is the intro tune from a set i downloaded 
called

Robert Natus - Schranz techno

i am having trouble uploading a link to the clip - if anyone wants to have a 
go at it, let me know privately and i'll e-mail you a short real audio clip 
of it


it starts out with this dark distorted horn - very similar to the darkside 
sounds used by Reinforced in old darkcore from 93 - there is this dark voice 
speaking in German - then the darkness drops out and this bouncy beat kicks 
in -


hard to descibe, but I can mail the clip to anyone - I'm sure someone will 
know it instantly when they hear it


if anyone happens to have a tracklisting for this mix, or any 
recommendations of other good scranz techno that would be cool


thx

Liam

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(313) [313] ...testing ....testing

2002-11-18 Thread Lee Herrington IV

  1, 2, 3.


(313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Someone asked about the Felix Da Housecat remix of Madonna's Die Another 
Day.
It's actually very good. It has an electro feel. It suits the song.
I don't like a lot of her remixers these days (Groove Armada's Music was OK,
Luke Slater's Power was cool) but this is a good one.


(313) Re: Minimal Nation (4 sale spam)

2002-11-18 Thread Benn Glazier
Sorry to annoy most of you, but there's a few out there that would like
the original copy of this release on Axis.

I have one to sell...  please hit me off list.

Few more other things like some Dan Curtin and Burial Mix -
http://www.royaltech.net/records

Thanks
Benn

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Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread David Gillies

Cyclone Wehner said:
 Someone asked about the Felix Da Housecat remix of Madonna's Die Another
  Day.
 It's actually very good. It has an electro feel. It suits the song. I
 don't like a lot of her remixers these days (Groove Armada's Music was
 OK, Luke Slater's Power was cool) but this is a good one.

Has you heard the Fischerspooner remix of Kylie's latest?

Not sure what to make of that one...

-- 
dave.




Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Fred Heutte
I'm going to disagree with Cyclone a bit.  While the 313 list has a
place in the history of Detroit techno, our discussions have long
been far more diverse than the intimations of single-mindedness 
indicate.  

I've been sort of amused by how one accusation of elitism got
spun into this meandering ping pong battle over the meaning of 313
or something.  

The reason 313 has thrived for so long, against numerous clueless 
incoming squadrons, is that we have a lot of people here with
differing opinions and no hesitation to express them, very deep 
experience, and a distaste for exactly the kind of navel-gazing of 
which we are now being accused.

Now can we get past obvious trollbait like:

I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community 
of fans have such a big impact on the scene. 

It's not about our disillusionment, Stephen, as if all 313ers
could be said to have any single common view.  It's about your
presuppositions of the history and interconnection between this
list and Detroit techno.

You're welcome to your opinions on that; the more the merrier.
But I would say that the archives are readily available, and a
little bit of time skimming through them over the years might prove
to be instructive.

phred




Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Actually, just to reiterate, I did not post these words so they are not my
arguments at all. Someone cut and paste it so it looked like 'Cyclone
wrote'...
People should take care when they cut and paste or whatever so things are
not ripped out of context or wrongly attributed to others.

 I'm going to disagree with Cyclone a bit. While the 313 list has a
 place in the history of Detroit techno, our discussions have long
 been far more diverse than the intimations of single-mindedness
 indicate.

 I've been sort of amused by how one accusation of elitism got
 spun into this meandering ping pong battle over the meaning of 313
 or something.

 The reason 313 has thrived for so long, against numerous clueless
 incoming squadrons, is that we have a lot of people here with
 differing opinions and no hesitation to express them, very deep
 experience, and a distaste for exactly the kind of navel-gazing of
 which we are now being accused.

 Now can we get past obvious trollbait like:

 I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community
 of fans have such a big impact on the scene.

 It's not about our disillusionment, Stephen, as if all 313ers
 could be said to have any single common view. It's about your
 presuppositions of the history and interconnection between this
 list and Detroit techno.

 You're welcome to your opinions on that; the more the merrier.
 But I would say that the archives are readily available, and a
 little bit of time skimming through them over the years might prove
 to be instructive.

 phred




 


(313) List of Records for Sale (ot)

2002-11-18 Thread diana potts

 There were some ppl interested in the records I have
for sale. Please Email me privately and I'll send a
long an attachment Excel file.

 They range from Mechanism Industries, Dance Mania,
Acacia, Acquirius, Stickmen, Fragile etc.. Records
won't be more than 3$ each,no less than 3 records per
shipment.

 Right now the list stands at 37 records. weight is
weight. It's got to go.

 Email me privately. please.
Diana



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(313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread Kent williams
A friend of mine is now in a Kraftwerk cover band.  It had to happen
eventually -- and maybe it happened before? But they've been playing around
Seattle and getting pretty good.

http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

They're using 2 live drummers, a laptop guy, and a keyboard player.

Interesting.   Their Man Machine in particular is very nice.
They haven't worked up Tour De France yet ;-/



Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
That's a whole political game there.

I know there's legal issues but bootlegging an alternative mix and creating
a street vibe is actually the best way to get noticed. Apart from hustling.
Or a manager who hustles!

I know a few people in the techno/house underground who really work it but
still haven't been given the kind of remixes they capable of.

In purely practical terms remixes for majors are marketing tools so it helps
if Mixmag says you're hot.

There's so many levels in that game. It's like cameo spots on hip-hop
records - it's a game.

Madonna tends to go for people she thinks are cool, remixes are all tied up
with marketing and politicking and having the right contacts. Same with
movie soundtrack work.

Look how long it took for Felix to do a mix for her.

Some artists are more hands-on - like Tricky had singled out a certain
Detroit producer for a remix, then he lost his deal. Robbie from The
Avalanches wanted Carl Craig. They're on an indie, so they have more
autonomy.

It's a shame. There are some terrible remixes of RB records around. You
really have to wonder who would want a trance mix by Thunderpuss of a
Whitney Houston record. If there's one good thing about the mash-up culture
it's created an alternative to that!


 Inbox Message 

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
 Date:  18/11/2002 16:38:26
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Here's a question...any ideas on how to get in contact with the people who
 are involved in making remix descisions for Madonna? I have a friend who is
 an artist, of notable hard techno credit, who has been interested in this for
 awhile.
 Steve


Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Talking of remixes, you wish you could hear

On the new Groove Armada album Lovebox there are two really nice house
tracks, one called Easy with Sunshine Anderson, which has an old skool
house/garage feel, and it is screaming out for a re-edit/remix by Kevin
Saunderson. It would be sensational!
It's already great, but a little of that tech touch would 'elevate' it!

I have never been a big GA fan, but these two tracks are really good.

The second sounds like a Faze Action type house track.



Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread techno
Fred I'm not here to troll, it comes down to a difference in opinion.
I'm here because I have an interest in 313 music, I've been buying Detroit
techno since 1989.
in response to your last paragraph a searchable database for the 313 list
archives would be very helpful.

on 11/17/02 10:26 PM, Fred Heutte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to disagree with Cyclone a bit.  While the 313 list has a
 place in the history of Detroit techno, our discussions have long
 been far more diverse than the intimations of single-mindedness
 indicate.  
 
 I've been sort of amused by how one accusation of elitism got
 spun into this meandering ping pong battle over the meaning of 313
 or something.  
 
 The reason 313 has thrived for so long, against numerous clueless
 incoming squadrons, is that we have a lot of people here with
 differing opinions and no hesitation to express them, very deep
 experience, and a distaste for exactly the kind of navel-gazing of
 which we are now being accused.
 
 Now can we get past obvious trollbait like:
 
 I think your a little disillusioned if you think a small community
 of fans have such a big impact on the scene.
 
 It's not about our disillusionment, Stephen, as if all 313ers
 could be said to have any single common view.  It's about your
 presuppositions of the history and interconnection between this
 list and Detroit techno.
 
 You're welcome to your opinions on that; the more the merrier.
 But I would say that the archives are readily available, and a
 little bit of time skimming through them over the years might prove
 to be instructive.
 
 phred



Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread techno
My apologies, that was very careless of me.
I was responding to Mr. Corn Warning Kent Williams

on 11/17/02 10:27 PM, Cyclone Wehner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, just to reiterate, I did not post these words so they are not my
 arguments at all. Someone cut and paste it so it looked like 'Cyclone
 wrote'...
 People should take care when they cut and paste or whatever so things are
 not ripped out of context or wrongly attributed to others.



RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Craig Harrison
You're telling me! - a searchable archive would be fantastic.

There's a catch 22 for new people (one of which is me), in that it's fairly
tricky to say the least that people like myself would like to make a post
about something, but as we all know could be responded to with the see the
archives reply. My mouse can only take so much scrolling before the wheel
melts. :)

Dscaper.
Aeonflux Radio - http://www.aeonflux.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 November 2002 06:55
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

snip
in response to your last paragraph a searchable database for the 313 list
archives would be very helpful.





Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread matrix
Since we're on the Kraftwerk coverband topic...

check this: http://go.to/dieroboter

I've seen them live a few times... and they're very good imho. 

G

Quoting Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 A friend of mine is now in a Kraftwerk cover band.  It had to happen
 eventually -- and maybe it happened before? But they've been playing around
 Seattle and getting pretty good.
 
 http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/
 
 They're using 2 live drummers, a laptop guy, and a keyboard player.
 
 Interesting.   Their Man Machine in particular is very nice.
 They haven't worked up Tour De France yet ;-/
 
 





(313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Morning all,

Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially 'regulars'! It was
another full house and many remarked to me that not only did the musical
standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also fine - meaning
we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was at least as
important as the socializing.

Also some key UK techno bigwigs were in the house + 1 very promising
American (who thanked me for playing 'Hard Life' - you are 100% welcome
dude.)

Thanx especially to our 'Very Special Guest Indeed' ... if you weren't
there, you may never know who!

... Suffice to say that the license ran till 2am, but the last dancer didn't
leave till 0245, which speaks for itself. ... A consumate performance using
quality materials. *My* kind of house set#1.

More special thanx to Jonny McIntosh for *my* kind of house set#2: jackin',
deep, soulful, and classic in many places.

If you claim to provide house music for more discerning ears, you need to
book this man:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You've one more chance to party with us. The last Slice will be consumed
21.12.02. The culmination of our exploration of (some of) the roots of our
music is the techno night.

And that really will be it.

Peace
k


Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Fred Heutte
I probably should have been more specific, Cyclone -- I was referring
to your apparently favorable comment -- some interesting points --
but it's really the comments you quoted from the other email I was
disagreeing with.

I'm a pretty strong defender of 313 because it has kept going for
years and years while all the other lists I joined way back when ended
up sinking into a foul pit of flames and idiocy.

It was almost exactly ten years ago this month that the legendary 
go away Moby thread was starting up on ne-raves; a couple years later, 
ne-raves lost its really unique camaraderie and became a toxic swamp 
of screeching about how hardcore was by far the best form of music ever 
made, or something.  dc-raves, socal-raves, nw-raves, mw-raves, even my 
beloved sfraves -- all were sunk by the tragedy of write-only loudmouths.

Some managed to recover and continue in reasonable fashion, but the
people I knew from those lists long since disappeared, like leaving a
favorite corner pub because the bar fights went from occasional
distraction to ongoing nuisance.  

Among the public *ave lists I joined way back when, the honorable
survivors are 313 and uk-dance.  

As for doing a searchable index of the 313 archives, Hyperreal is a
volunteer-run system and would welcome someone coming along to hook
up a bit of this and a bit of that and do it.  As we always say, 
it's an  SMOP  -- simple matter of programming.

phred



(313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Rc
was there was a link posted recently about the last body and soul in NYC?

or does someone know the body and soul url?

thanx



RE: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Craig Harrison
http://www.bodyandsoul-nyc.com/

Is that the one your after?

Dscaper
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 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2002 09:41
 To: 313
 Subject: (313) body and soul NYC
 
 
 was there was a link posted recently about the last body and soul in NYC?
 
 or does someone know the body and soul url?
 
 thanx
 


Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner

 I probably should have been more specific, Cyclone -- I was referring
 to your apparently favorable comment -- some interesting points --
 but it's really the comments you quoted from the other email I was
 disagreeing with.

Nah, for me some interesting points usually means that I hadn't thought of
it that way, and don't necessarily agree but it's something I'll think
about.
It's not favourable or unfavourable.

;)

I actually think mailing lists are very influential. Mailing lists and web
sites actually mean that many more people have an outlet to express views
and post 'reviews'. Almost anyone can be a 'critic' or anyone can be a
'reviewer' and it gives people networks.
I have thought that there is an elitism in some techno ranks (not
necessarily 313) but I find that out on the streets and in the clubs as much
as here and among a select group at that.
Actually there are times when this list constitutes my social life - long
hours on the computer, ya know - so I am a big defender.


RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Langsman, Marc

yeah that was me that asked about that.. thankx for the info - do you know
if there rae any samples online ? [I had a scout around but couldnt find
anything]

cheers,
Marc

 -Original Message-
 From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2002 03:03
 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
 
 
 Someone asked about the Felix Da Housecat remix of Madonna's 
 Die Another 
 Day.
 It's actually very good. It has an electro feel. It suits the song.
 I don't like a lot of her remixers these days (Groove 
 Armada's Music was OK,
 Luke Slater's Power was cool) but this is a good one.
 

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(313) RE: DJ Hell on SkyOne ...

2002-11-18 Thread Langsman, Marc

After being bored out of my brain watching Judge Dredd on UK BBC1 last night
, I flipped to sky for some comedy viewing of a 'clubbing/lifestyle'
programme called 'Mix Of Nations' :/ Although this prog was in generak a
load of bobbins, I was suprised when it took a turn and they interview DJ
Hell about Intl gigolo Records and also had a waffle to Felix Da Housecat.
Worth looking out for as it'll no doubt be repeated non-stop in the usual
sky style...


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Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread tom churchill
 Less than a year later, Warp brought out the compilation Artificial
 Intelligence 2, and Designers Republic incorporated postings from the idm list
 into their sleeve art.

Sorry to be pedantic, but those postings were actually from the UK-Dance
list, I believe...

But I'm certainly not questioning the original point which was that 'IDM'
became an established name for a genre as a result of the original Hyperreal
IDM list...

Cheers,

Tom



RE: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Stang Anya
Good morning from me too. : )

You got in there first Ken, and I don't really have that much more
to add. As Nicole and I were saying, there's so many really good
events going down in London these days but the Slices nights
stand out even amongst the best. Great music, wonderful
atmosphere and lurvly peeps - mad props to Ken and Toby, and to
everyone who was there for contributing to making this a truly good
night out. 'twas good to see you all there, having fun!
The night itself, Ken played some very nice tunes (so stop
apologising m8!) and got us all warmed up nicely. It was a such
shame that there wasn't yet enough room to dance at that time
because the yellow t-shirts from Norwich were waiting for the last
train home - and there was me hoping their coach would pick
them up soon At least they got to hear some quality music
before they left, innit. : )
The special guest (who played last) was good but the set I enjoyed
the most was Jonny's. Fabulously sexy House and Disco that had
me shakin' my butt almost non-stop, as all who were there can
testify to - guys, remind me to bring a towel next time.
I would like to tell you what was played but I'm just so not a
trainspotter, sowwy... but I did hear and cheer to Donna Summer's
I feel Love. W, that song always takes me way back...
Oh yeah, he played Metro Area (3?), and I think an Ibadan record,
was it JeKaJo flipside? OK, I give up...
And I really don't know how I managed to stay on my feet because
Friday night bore witness to Shawn Rudiman's European debut,
and boyohboy that was some serious live pa!! 2hrs of beautiful
Techno - melodic, soulful, funky... groovealicous!!
And not enough that I just had to dance for almost the whole set,
there was Matt Chester dropping some lush stuff on the dex before
and after. Shout-out to http://www.11-hour.com !

Now I have to make my transition... to work. : )
Carrots,

Anya

PS: Slices#4, 21 Dec 2002, Public Life - be there!!
PPS: You can blame Ken for this long post! ; )
PPPS: So who's going to Alton Miller tonight?

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: (313) SLICES #3
 
 
 Morning all,
 
 Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially 
 'regulars'! It was
 another full house and many remarked to me that not only did 
 the musical
 standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also 
 fine - meaning
 we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was 
 at least as
 important as the socializing.
[scha-nipp]


RE: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Wibo Lammerts
www.bodyandsoul-nyc.com

W

-Original Message-
From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 10:41
To: 313
Subject: (313) body and soul NYC


was there was a link posted recently about the last body and soul in NYC?

or does someone know the body and soul url?

thanx


Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Forrest L Norvell
On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 10:12:28AM +, tom churchill wrote:
  Less than a year later, Warp brought out the compilation
  Artificial Intelligence 2, and Designers Republic incorporated
  postings from the idm list into their sleeve art.
 
 Sorry to be pedantic, but those postings were actually from the
 UK-Dance list, I believe...

It's quite possible you're right, although I was on UK-Dance at about
that time and I don't remember Jon Drukman being a part of the list.
Then again, my assertion was based on an interminable discussion
thread (has there ever been any other kind?) on idm itself when AI 2
came out. It's also possible we're both right -- given the way that
the messages and headers have been blenderized, they could almost have
been from anywhere. Man, Greg Eden. I haven't thought of him in
years. But enough counter-pedantry.

I agree with Fred. 313's stayed relevant and interesting when a lot of
other techno-related mailing lists have fallen to pieces. If you do
ever have the time to kill reading the archives, you'll probably find
it eye-opening, as I did, to see how 313 has changed over the years,
in large part to mirror the changes in Detroit and perceptions of what
techno is and means. About the only constants have been a fondness for
Derrick May and Maurizio and squabbles over the greatness of Jeff
Mills and Richie Hawtin.

F

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RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Forrest L Norvell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 18 November 2002 10:35
|  
|  Sorry to be pedantic, but those postings were actually from the
|  UK-Dance list, I believe...
| 
| It's quite possible you're right, although I was on UK-Dance at about
| that time and I don't remember Jon Drukman being a part of the list.

I was on both idm and UK-Dance, and am fairly sure that Warp used IDM
posts because, as you mention, I definitely remember Jon Drukman being
quoted on the AI 2 sleeve, and, as a San Franciscan, I doubt he'd have
much reason to be subbed to uk-dance!

I am definitely in agreement with those who are saying that 313 has
stood the test of time, so to speak, than many of the other music lists
that came into existence in the early 1990s. My relationship with 313
became basically monogamous by 1995, as the IDM list stagnated and the
ambient list started to fade away, and even though I've been on and off
of this list over the years, no other music lists really hold my
interest all that much...

Brendan


RE: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread ian cheshire
Morning Ken  Co

Yep a great night, the special Guest certainly lived up to
all expectations and Johnny played a really electric set.

I had a really good nite I have to say, as I love just standing back and
taking it all in :)

It was nice too see and chat to my fellow 313ers and I hope
too see you all again on the 21st Dec!

Well done Slices lets hope we can break the time record next time :)

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 November 2002 08:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: (313) SLICES #3


Morning all,

Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially 'regulars'! It was
another full house and many remarked to me that not only did the musical
standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also fine - meaning
we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was at least as
important as the socializing.

Also some key UK techno bigwigs were in the house + 1 very promising
American (who thanked me for playing 'Hard Life' - you are 100% welcome
dude.)

Thanx especially to our 'Very Special Guest Indeed' ... if you weren't
there, you may never know who!

... Suffice to say that the license ran till 2am, but the last dancer didn't
leave till 0245, which speaks for itself. ... A consumate performance using
quality materials. *My* kind of house set#1.

More special thanx to Jonny McIntosh for *my* kind of house set#2: jackin',
deep, soulful, and classic in many places.

If you claim to provide house music for more discerning ears, you need to
book this man:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You've one more chance to party with us. The last Slice will be consumed
21.12.02. The culmination of our exploration of (some of) the roots of our
music is the techno night.

And that really will be it.

Peace
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RE: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Brendan Nelson
I'd also like to say how much I enjoyed Saturday night and how good it
is to see UK-313ers turn the party out in such an assured and
professional way! I personally enjoyed the music much more than at the
first Slices - being more of a housey/techno-y person than a modern
electro-y person, I guess that's just natural, but it's also down to the
very high quality sets delivered on the night! 

I just wish I had arrived a little bit earlier and a little bit less
drunk...! :)

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 18 November 2002 10:37
| To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
| Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3
| 
| 
| Morning Ken  Co
| 
| Yep a great night, the special Guest certainly lived up to
| all expectations and Johnny played a really electric set.
| 
| I had a really good nite I have to say, as I love just 
| standing back and
| taking it all in :)
| 
| It was nice too see and chat to my fellow 313ers and I hope
| too see you all again on the 21st Dec!
| 
| Well done Slices lets hope we can break the time record next time :)
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 18 November 2002 08:41
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
| Subject: (313) SLICES #3
| 
| 
| Morning all,
| 
| Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially 
| 'regulars'! It was
| another full house and many remarked to me that not only did 
| the musical
| standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also 
| fine - meaning
| we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was 
| at least as
| important as the socializing.
| 
| Also some key UK techno bigwigs were in the house + 1 very promising
| American (who thanked me for playing 'Hard Life' - you are 
| 100% welcome
| dude.)
| 
| Thanx especially to our 'Very Special Guest Indeed' ... if you weren't
| there, you may never know who!
| 
| ... Suffice to say that the license ran till 2am, but the 
| last dancer didn't
| leave till 0245, which speaks for itself. ... A consumate 
| performance using
| quality materials. *My* kind of house set#1.
| 
| More special thanx to Jonny McIntosh for *my* kind of house 
| set#2: jackin',
| deep, soulful, and classic in many places.
| 
| If you claim to provide house music for more discerning ears, 
| you need to
| book this man:
| 
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| You've one more chance to party with us. The last Slice will 
| be consumed
| 21.12.02. The culmination of our exploration of (some of) the 
| roots of our
| music is the techno night.
| 
| And that really will be it.
| 
| Peace
| k
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RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Fred I'm not here to troll, it comes down to a difference in opinion.
 I'm here because I have an interest in 313 music, I've been 
 buying Detroit
 techno since 1989.

And why do you think we are on this list?

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Re: (313) ugly edits

2002-11-18 Thread Jonny McIntosh
#1 has been bootlegged and is apparently doing the rounds in the UK for
6.5UKP, so don't go paying silly prices. There have clearly been far more
than the 500 copies of the original rumoured to have been pressed. I like
the irony of the bootlegged bootleg, especially with all the rubbish rumours
and inflated prices that have surrounded it. That's the sound of someone who
fell for it, yes ;)

Support your local bootleg bootlegger.





Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread tom churchill
 I was on both idm and UK-Dance, and am fairly sure that Warp used IDM
 posts...

I wasn't on either list at the time (I joined both in 1995 I think), so I
was going on the text here...

http://www.uk-dance.org/help/history.html

...which says:

Warp's Artificial Intelligence album ‹ pretentious noodling or good music?
Either way, the discussion got ripped off by Warp for the cover of their AI2
compilation.

Cheers,

Tom




(313) music lists

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Re: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Not much to add to this, but that I had a really great time. Any night I end
up fully baked at 5am with my head between my speakers listening through
West Ends and Preludes rates highly.

Ken did an excellent job getting them going: even the Norwich City
supporters seemed to be bobbing their heads (I can't understand why they
were there - they were playing Palace but at home?). If I had one complaint
it would be that you played Promised Land, reducing already slight choice
of records by one. I was badly prepared as it turns out: I ended up playing
every record in my bag and a b-side I've never even listened to before...
doh. One trainspot I will do for you Anya was my favourite moment: Bas
Noir's Addicted 2 Luv [Tony Humphries dub] - I don't care about anyone
else but *I* was going off when I played that :) Shawn - I will remind you
of that Sheila E offer ;) The special guest played some classics for me,
too: The Word Is Love, Clay Acox's Keep On Dancing. Top stuff. My ears
are still ringing, but that might be the West End/Prelude abuse when I got
home. Brendan: my D Train favourite is Trying To Get Over.

The highlight for me, though, was seeing everyone. I've said it before but
London 313ers are some of the nicest, most down to earth people. BIG shout
outs to you all: Dan, Brendan, Guy, Nicole, Anya, a not as drunken as usual
Tristan, Ian and of course massive thanks to Ken, Toby and Emile. See you at
the next one!




(313) [313] a realization.

2002-11-18 Thread Lee Herrington IV

   hi folks.  i have come to the realization that i am a far better music
collector than a music maker.  as a result of this epiphany, i am sadly
parting with a roland mc303 groovebox.  if anyone is interested you can
check out my seller ID on ebay, eyesight4.



  i apologize for the crass commercialism.
  peace
  lrh



(313) London - post- Xmas with Jeff Mills

2002-11-18 Thread Toby Frith
Wash down the Turkey and Booze with Jeff Mills - he's playing Fabric on Dec
28th.





RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
You could try this:
http://www.decksshop.de/sound/house_kz/madonna_dieanotherday+2.MP3 and then
there's soulseek of course ;-)

Joost

 -Original Message-
 From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 11:06
 To: 'Cyclone Wehner'; 313 Detroit
 Subject: RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
 
 
 
 yeah that was me that asked about that.. thankx for the info 
 - do you know if there rae any samples online ? [I had a 
 scout around but couldnt find anything]
 
 cheers,
 Marc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 18 November 2002 03:03
  To: 313 Detroit
  Subject: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
  
  
  Someone asked about the Felix Da Housecat remix of Madonna's
  Die Another 
  Day.
  It's actually very good. It has an electro feel. It suits the song.
  I don't like a lot of her remixers these days (Groove 
  Armada's Music was OK,
  Luke Slater's Power was cool) but this is a good one.
  
 
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Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Jonny McIntosh
What is this Soulseek people speak of? Will it help me in my attempts to
preview records before going down the record shop? If so, please send me
instructions off list. Fanks girlsnboys.

 there's soulseek of course ;-)





Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread PuzzleBox
No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as optic 
nerve or the Auxmen..period


Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine with 
a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you. Awesome.


At 10:48 PM 11/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:

A friend of mine is now in a Kraftwerk cover band.  It had to happen
eventually -- and maybe it happened before? But they've been playing around
Seattle and getting pretty good.

http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

They're using 2 live drummers, a laptop guy, and a keyboard player.

Interesting.   Their Man Machine in particular is very nice.
They haven't worked up Tour De France yet ;-/





(313) Soulseek (was: Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna)

2002-11-18 Thread Michael Lees

Jonny McIntosh wrote:
 What is this Soulseek people speak of?

http://www.slsk.org/



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Re: (313) Exhibit

2002-11-18 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

This is good-


 Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World is the Detroit Historical Museum's
 first traveling exhibit in more than 15 years. Upon its closing in June
 2004, the exhibit will tour educational institutions and museums around
 the world.


 I'm going to see if we can get it to come this-a-way before it heads off   
 to Europe for 15 years.

 MEK








   
  sean deason   
   
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  t.net   cc:  
   
   Subject:  (313) Exhibit  
   
  11/17/02 02:47 PM 
   

   

   




did this get posted already?

LINK http://www.detroithistorical.org/exhibits/index.asp?MID=368

Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World
January 2003 - June 2004
Detroit Historical Museum's Stark Hall

History is often thought of as a series of events that occurred a very long
time ago. The truth is, history is also what happened yesterday, five
minutes ago, and in fact, today's events will be tomorrow's history. With
this in mind the Detroit Historical Museum has partnered with the
originators of Techno to share the story of their music. This
groundbreaking
exhibit will trace Techno's early beginning from its Detroit roots to its
emergence as a global sensation.
An ambitious new exhibit - the world's first on the subject -- that
celebrates a style of music born in Detroit that has kept the world dancing
for more than 20 years.

Learn the straight story of how Juan Atkins, Eddie Fowlkes, Derrick May and
Kevin Saunderson, four young men from metro Detroit, created and developed
this electronic style of dance music and trace its early beginnings from
local Detroit clubs to its emergence as a global sensation.









RE: (313) Exhibit

2002-11-18 Thread Craig Harrison
Let's hope Tate Modern pick up on it. Something like this in there would be
something special.

Dscaper
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 To: sean deason
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Exhibit



 This is good-



  Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World is the Detroit Historical
 Museum's
  first traveling exhibit in more than 15 years. Upon its closing
 in June
  2004, the exhibit will tour educational institutions and museums
 around
  the world.





  I'm going to see if we can get it to come this-a-way before it
 heads off
  to Europe for 15 years.



  MEK












   sean deason

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
 313@hyperreal.org

   t.net   cc:

Subject:  (313)
 Exhibit
   11/17/02 02:47 PM









 did this get posted already?

 LINK http://www.detroithistorical.org/exhibits/index.asp?MID=368

 Techno: Detroit's Gift to the World
 January 2003 - June 2004
 Detroit Historical Museum's Stark Hall

 History is often thought of as a series of events that occurred a
 very long
 time ago. The truth is, history is also what happened yesterday, five
 minutes ago, and in fact, today's events will be tomorrow's history. With
 this in mind the Detroit Historical Museum has partnered with the
 originators of Techno to share the story of their music. This
 groundbreaking
 exhibit will trace Techno's early beginning from its Detroit roots to its
 emergence as a global sensation.
 An ambitious new exhibit - the world's first on the subject -- that
 celebrates a style of music born in Detroit that has kept the
 world dancing
 for more than 20 years.

 Learn the straight story of how Juan Atkins, Eddie Fowlkes,
 Derrick May and
 Kevin Saunderson, four young men from metro Detroit, created and developed
 this electronic style of dance music and trace its early beginnings from
 local Detroit clubs to its emergence as a global sensation.










RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
No idea.

I never listen to things online!

Someone else will know.

 Inbox Message 

 From:  Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
 Date:  18/11/2002 21:05:36
 To:  'Cyclone Wehner' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit
 313@hyperreal.org


 yeah that was me that asked about that.. thankx for the info - do you know
 if there rae any samples online ? [I had a scout around but couldnt find
 anything]

 cheers,
 Marc


Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Dan Sicko

As for doing a searchable index of the 313 archives, Hyperreal is a
volunteer-run system and would welcome someone coming along to hook
up a bit of this and a bit of that and do it.  As we always say,
it's an  SMOP  -- simple matter of programming.


If anyone has an idea as to how to do this without having all the 
messages from the last 8 years exist as standard Web pages that can be 
tracked by search engines, let me know.


Used to be that browsers could open up the GZIPs and read them right in 
the browser window, right?


-d


Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread Kent williams
I was at DEMF for the Auxmen and really enjoyed it.  My friend Mike's band
is cool too; certainly room for a lot of Kraftwerk covers. I like
the string quartet versions by the Balanescu Quartet:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B03Z5X/qid=1037633738/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/102-7135578-1545701

Terre Thaemlitz also released a solo piano CD of Kraftwerk covers:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B082PR/ref=m_art_li_4//102-7135578-1545701?v=glances=music

Kraftwerk writes really good music that is open to any number of
interpretations.  While it's possible to ruin it if you try, any decent
musician who doesn't get in the way with his or her interpretation should
be able to play an engaging version of Kraftwerk's songs.

And lest we forget, Neil Young fell under the KW spell too:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B05RVK/qid=1037634267/sr=1-44/ref=sr_1_44/102-7135578-1545701?v=glances=music

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, PuzzleBox wrote:

 No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as optic
 nerve or the Auxmen..period

 Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine with
 a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you. Awesome.

 At 10:48 PM 11/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:
 A friend of mine is now in a Kraftwerk cover band.  It had to happen
 eventually -- and maybe it happened before? But they've been playing around
 Seattle and getting pretty good.
 
 http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/
 



(313) No Subject

2002-11-18 Thread Shakirtony
 Emimem states nobody listens to techno, I found it very amusing. And I 
agree. Nobody does, but everybody does. In modern music, everything is 
techno. It's all made on machines with machines. Techno records sell, but 
only after you can't find them and not in those amounts.
 I had to learn that just because some people have just discovered this 
music, you(I) can't get mad at their inexperience, but you point them in the 
correct direction. 
 For the guy who wants a comprehensive music history on Detroit musics. 
Start with some John Lee Hooker and find out about Hastings street. Pick up 
the book Before Motown to find out about Detroits jazz history before 
motown. Anything about Motown. 
 Before it became the job of profressional amateur experts to classify, 
name, and seperate everything to justify listening to anything, it was just 
dance (listening) music. All of it. FM 98 had a mix show with a Barry 
Michealton Grant I think. The Wizard started at WDRQ 93 FM, before he moved 
to 98. Mojo played his mixes on his radio show on WGPR 107.5. And this scene 
was not a techno scene until after 1990. As well as Duane Bradley doing his 
afternoon mixes on 98. Claude Young had his mix show on WHYT 96.  So by the 
time the mix shows had came about on 89X, they had already been running on 
the Black(Urban) outlets for years. 
 I will admit my bias towards Detroit techno, as opposed to techno. 
There was, and is a difference. Just rambling.

  
 Shake. 


RE: (313) No Subject

2002-11-18 Thread Rob Theakston
NICE!

Shake gets on 313 and serves it up!!!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:53 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) No Subject


 Emimem states nobody listens to techno, I found it very amusing. And
I
agree. Nobody does, but everybody does. In modern music, everything is
techno. It's all made on machines with machines. Techno records sell, but
only after you can't find them and not in those amounts.
 I had to learn that just because some people have just discovered this
music, you(I) can't get mad at their inexperience, but you point them in the
correct direction.
 For the guy who wants a comprehensive music history on Detroit musics.
Start with some John Lee Hooker and find out about Hastings street. Pick up
the book Before Motown to find out about Detroits jazz history before
motown. Anything about Motown.
 Before it became the job of profressional amateur experts to classify,
name, and seperate everything to justify listening to anything, it was just
dance (listening) music. All of it. FM 98 had a mix show with a Barry
Michealton Grant I think. The Wizard started at WDRQ 93 FM, before he moved
to 98. Mojo played his mixes on his radio show on WGPR 107.5. And this scene
was not a techno scene until after 1990. As well as Duane Bradley doing his
afternoon mixes on 98. Claude Young had his mix show on WHYT 96.  So by the
time the mix shows had came about on 89X, they had already been running on
the Black(Urban) outlets for years.
 I will admit my bias towards Detroit techno, as opposed to techno.
There was, and is a difference. Just rambling.


 Shake.



RE: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Robert Taylor
You said it, Anya. I don't think there's anymore I can add but to thank Toby
and Ken for having such a great idea for a series of parties. It was great
to see so many people shaking their stuff, to hear such quality music and to
have the opportunity to get down to it in such relaxing and inimate
surroundings and to see so many 313ers turning up to support - good work
fellas and roll on Slices 4!

-Original Message-
From: Stang Anya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:27 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3


Good morning from me too. : )

You got in there first Ken, and I don't really have that much more
to add. As Nicole and I were saying, there's so many really good
events going down in London these days but the Slices nights
stand out even amongst the best. Great music, wonderful
atmosphere and lurvly peeps - mad props to Ken and Toby, and to
everyone who was there for contributing to making this a truly good
night out. 'twas good to see you all there, having fun!
The night itself, Ken played some very nice tunes (so stop
apologising m8!) and got us all warmed up nicely. It was a such
shame that there wasn't yet enough room to dance at that time
because the yellow t-shirts from Norwich were waiting for the last
train home - and there was me hoping their coach would pick
them up soon At least they got to hear some quality music
before they left, innit. : )
The special guest (who played last) was good but the set I enjoyed
the most was Jonny's. Fabulously sexy House and Disco that had
me shakin' my butt almost non-stop, as all who were there can
testify to - guys, remind me to bring a towel next time.
I would like to tell you what was played but I'm just so not a
trainspotter, sowwy... but I did hear and cheer to Donna Summer's
I feel Love. W, that song always takes me way back...
Oh yeah, he played Metro Area (3?), and I think an Ibadan record,
was it JeKaJo flipside? OK, I give up...
And I really don't know how I managed to stay on my feet because
Friday night bore witness to Shawn Rudiman's European debut,
and boyohboy that was some serious live pa!! 2hrs of beautiful
Techno - melodic, soulful, funky... groovealicous!!
And not enough that I just had to dance for almost the whole set,
there was Matt Chester dropping some lush stuff on the dex before
and after. Shout-out to http://www.11-hour.com !

Now I have to make my transition... to work. : )
Carrots,

Anya

PS: Slices#4, 21 Dec 2002, Public Life - be there!!
PPS: You can blame Ken for this long post! ; )
PPPS: So who's going to Alton Miller tonight?

 -Original Message-
 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:41 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: (313) SLICES #3
 
 
 Morning all,
 
 Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially 
 'regulars'! It was
 another full house and many remarked to me that not only did 
 the musical
 standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also 
 fine - meaning
 we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was 
 at least as
 important as the socializing.
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(313) OT but good for a giggle

2002-11-18 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
On the advice of Mr. Shakir I was looking on Amazon for Before Motown and
then followed some links to other books when I came across this heading for
other recommendation in other categories:





 Customers who wear clothes also shop for:  






:D




Re: (313) OT but good for a giggle

2002-11-18 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380793792/ref=pd_sim_books_2/102-3654662-3460125?v=glances=books

Better still is the first link (clean underwear) under this category --





 Customers who wear clothes also shop for:  
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Re: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Toby Frith
This man is a one man party - If there's a great do on in London you can
guarantee Mr Taylor is at the front dancing all night! Well done old chap!

Massive thanks to all those on 313'ers who came down (you know who you are)
and especially to Mr McIntosh for another lovely set - look forward to
hearing much much more in the future Jonny!

Our last one will include a couple of 313 listmembers as well, including a
live set - more info to follow nearer the time.






- Original Message -
From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Stang Anya' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3


 You said it, Anya. I don't think there's anymore I can add but to thank
Toby
 and Ken for having such a great idea for a series of parties. It was great
 to see so many people shaking their stuff, to hear such quality music and
to
 have the opportunity to get down to it in such relaxing and inimate
 surroundings and to see so many 313ers turning up to support - good work
 fellas and roll on Slices 4!

 -Original Message-
 From: Stang Anya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:27 AM
 To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
 Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3


 Good morning from me too. : )

 You got in there first Ken, and I don't really have that much more
 to add. As Nicole and I were saying, there's so many really good
 events going down in London these days but the Slices nights
 stand out even amongst the best. Great music, wonderful
 atmosphere and lurvly peeps - mad props to Ken and Toby, and to
 everyone who was there for contributing to making this a truly good
 night out. 'twas good to see you all there, having fun!
 The night itself, Ken played some very nice tunes (so stop
 apologising m8!) and got us all warmed up nicely. It was a such
 shame that there wasn't yet enough room to dance at that time
 because the yellow t-shirts from Norwich were waiting for the last
 train home - and there was me hoping their coach would pick
 them up soon At least they got to hear some quality music
 before they left, innit. : )
 The special guest (who played last) was good but the set I enjoyed
 the most was Jonny's. Fabulously sexy House and Disco that had
 me shakin' my butt almost non-stop, as all who were there can
 testify to - guys, remind me to bring a towel next time.
 I would like to tell you what was played but I'm just so not a
 trainspotter, sowwy... but I did hear and cheer to Donna Summer's
 I feel Love. W, that song always takes me way back...
 Oh yeah, he played Metro Area (3?), and I think an Ibadan record,
 was it JeKaJo flipside? OK, I give up...
 And I really don't know how I managed to stay on my feet because
 Friday night bore witness to Shawn Rudiman's European debut,
 and boyohboy that was some serious live pa!! 2hrs of beautiful
 Techno - melodic, soulful, funky... groovealicous!!
 And not enough that I just had to dance for almost the whole set,
 there was Matt Chester dropping some lush stuff on the dex before
 and after. Shout-out to http://www.11-hour.com !

 Now I have to make my transition... to work. : )
 Carrots,

 Anya

 PS: Slices#4, 21 Dec 2002, Public Life - be there!!
 PPS: You can blame Ken for this long post! ; )
 PPPS: So who's going to Alton Miller tonight?

  -Original Message-
  From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:41 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
  Subject: (313) SLICES #3
 
 
  Morning all,
 
  Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially
  'regulars'! It was
  another full house and many remarked to me that not only did
  the musical
  standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also
  fine - meaning
  we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was
  at least as
  important as the socializing.
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RE: (313) OT but good for a giggle

2002-11-18 Thread Robertson, Steven
Are you trippin m8?

J/k are you signed-in, I guess it's got more to do with your customer
profile
do you think maybe?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 18 November 2002 16:28
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) OT but good for a giggle



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380793792/ref=pd_sim_books_2/
102-3654662-3460125?v=glances=books

Better still is the first link (clean underwear) under this category --





 Customers who wear clothes also shop for:  
   Clean Underwear from Amazon's Gap Store  
   Cashmere Sweaters from Amazon's Lands' End Store 
   Tommy Bahama Shirts from Amazon's Nordstrom Store
   Performance Fleece from Amazon's Old Navy Store  










Re: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Tristan Watkins
Does anyone know if this is expected to kick off again any time soon? I have
a friend in NYC that could use an excuse to move his feet. Is Ron Trent
still residing somewhere if not?

Feel free to hit me back offlist.

Thanks,

Tristan
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Music: http://www.mp313.com
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
- Original Message -
From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Rc' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: (313) body and soul NYC


 www.bodyandsoul-nyc.com

 W

 -Original Message-
 From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 10:41
 To: 313
 Subject: (313) body and soul NYC


 was there was a link posted recently about the last body and soul in NYC?

 or does someone know the body and soul url?

 thanx






(313) please

2002-11-18 Thread Data General


:: is the Metro Area APT party in NYC a monthly event?  If so, what is the
schedule etc?



ben



RE: (313) please

2002-11-18 Thread Grammenos, Peter

it happens once a month, you just missed the one last week so you'll
have to wait till next week. pick up flyer.

-Original Message-
From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:10 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) please




:: is the Metro Area APT party in NYC a monthly event?  If so, what is the
schedule etc?



ben


RE: (313) please

2002-11-18 Thread Grammenos, Peter
meant next month ;)

-Original Message-
From: Grammenos, Peter 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:11 PM
To: 'Data General'; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) please



it happens once a month, you just missed the one last week so you'll
have to wait till next week. pick up flyer.

-Original Message-
From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:10 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) please




:: is the Metro Area APT party in NYC a monthly event?  If so, what is the
schedule etc?



ben


Re: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Oscillate
Body  Soul has no present plans to relaunch any time soon.  Ron Trent no 
longer has a residency in New York.

Have your friend go check out Timmy Regisford at Shelter.

pw


In a message dated 11/18/02 12:07:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know if this is expected to kick off again any time soon? I 
have

a friend in NYC that could use an excuse to move his feet. Is Ron Trent

still residing somewhere if not?


Feel free to hit me back offlist.


Thanks,


Tristan 



Re: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message -
From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: (313) SLICES #3


 Ken did an excellent job getting them going: even the Norwich City
 supporters seemed to be bobbing their heads (I can't understand why they
 were there - they were playing Palace but at home?).

Theory: coming back through Liverpool Street? If geography precludes this
possibility, please ignore the stupid American. For those who are interested
in this cryptic story, there were a confused bunch of, erm, out-of-place
drunken football fans that took over a corner of Public Life (a very small
club that was once a public restroom)! It really isn't that the London [313]
massive speaks a different language, they just talk about things you could
only know about if you were there. :)

 If I had one complaint
 it would be that you played Promised Land, reducing already slight
choice
 of records by one.

My complaint would be that he apologized too damn much for it. :) I only
caught the last 30 minutes, but it sounded good to me!

Favorite moment of the evening was watching Shawn Rudiman lose his sh*t when
Jonny played Seila E. :) I enjoyed the music all night, but it was
particularly special seeing Jonny translate his encyclopedic house-love into
a flawless 2-hour workout. For someone who spends all his money on records,
he sure does play a lot of old tracks. :P

Oh, and the special guest dropping Blackwater to close out the evening was
really appropriate! Too many great moments to try and single out more than
these two though.

 The highlight for me, though, was seeing everyone. I've said it before but
 London 313ers are some of the nicest, most down to earth people.

Word. Bring on #4!

Tristan
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RE: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Grammenos, Peter

What happened to the Giant Step party? Who is the resident now?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) body and soul NYC


Body  Soul has no present plans to relaunch any time soon.  Ron Trent no 
longer has a residency in New York.

Have your friend go check out Timmy Regisford at Shelter.

pw


In a message dated 11/18/02 12:07:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know if this is expected to kick off again any time soon? I 
have

a friend in NYC that could use an excuse to move his feet. Is Ron Trent

still residing somewhere if not?


Feel free to hit me back offlist.


Thanks,


Tristan 


Re: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna

2002-11-18 Thread sloes
 Has you heard the Fischerspooner remix of Kylie's latest?

 Not sure what to make of that one...

You mean of the song Come Into My World? When i first heard it i didnt even
notice it was a remix, cause thats how pop sounds nowadays.. But after a few
listens its actually nice (for a pop song! ;), especially that last
buildup..



(313) A worthwhile event

2002-11-18 Thread Ian
A yearly event here in Detroit that is well worth the cover 
price!

Good music for a great cause.

ID



Please make plans to attend House for the Homeless 3, a 
benefit for the Capuchin Soup Kitchen in Detroit on Friday, 
November 22. Local House DJ's and performers have generously 
donated their time to raise money for this worthy cause just 
in time for Thanksgiving.

Date: Friday, November 22 (9pm-2am)

Location: 3515 Caniff (space generously donated by Dan Sordyl)

Admission: $10 donation at the door (proceeds to the Capuchin 
Soup Kitchen), 18+ welcome

Performances from (in 2 rooms):

Sound Circle Collective
Dwayne Jensen: Fathom Recordings, Beatdownsounds.com
Delano Smith: Beatdownsounds.com
DJ Genesis: Beatdownsounds.com
John Arnold: Ubiquity, Transmat
Mazz: Citypeoplemusic
Josh Crilley feat. Malik Alston: Truth Manifest
John Stoll: Color Collective
Mathew Boynton: Detroit Bachelor DJ's, Incognito Detroit
Patrick Aaron aka Egghead: Crackly Records

Fashions by Michele Swanson

Hors D'oeuvres prepared by Camillian Cafe in Greektown

3515 Caniff, Hamtramck
Doors open at 9. 18 and over welcome. Admission $10 at the 
door only. 

Cash bar. Additional canned food donations will be accepted 
(cover still applies)

Thanks to our sponsors: Record Time, Camillian Cafe, Real 
Detroit Weekly, Motor Productions, Highway Press, and the 
Patricola Agency

Contact information: Vince Patricola: Cell (248) 417-6089, 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Craig Harrison
Ouch... that one's gotta hurt. ;)

Dscaper
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of a man who knows.

(P.S. Puchaser of both Detroit and global techno... first rule of music is
never to close your ears because of boundaries.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2002 11:01
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history



  Fred I'm not here to troll, it comes down to a difference in opinion.
  I'm here because I have an interest in 313 music, I've been
  buying Detroit
  techno since 1989.

 And why do you think we are on this list?

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(313) december charity event

2002-11-18 Thread ::\)
can whoever was organizing this post here or contact me?  I know I offered
to play, but I would like to know if Im playing and when so that I can get a
view of how december is looking.

plus, Im more interested in working that out than other events because
people that really need it would benefit.

-Joes


jinjin_a_gogo: i dont speak your urban lingo, holmes



RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Craig Harrison
If you (I say figuratively) parse each message in a db (MySQL will suffice),
then it's a case of working out the relationships between threads (reply
to's, timestamps, etc).

It's possible that's for sure.

If anyone out there has got a breakdown of mail protocol, and standards used
by the mail manager, then I can help throw some code together.

Dscaper
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of a man who knows.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 18 November 2002 15:39
 To: Fred Heutte
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history


  As for doing a searchable index of the 313 archives, Hyperreal is a
  volunteer-run system and would welcome someone coming along to hook
  up a bit of this and a bit of that and do it.  As we always say,
  it's an  SMOP  -- simple matter of programming.

 If anyone has an idea as to how to do this without having all the
 messages from the last 8 years exist as standard Web pages that can be
 tracked by search engines, let me know.

 Used to be that browsers could open up the GZIPs and read them right in
 the browser window, right?

 -d



Re: (313) body and soul NYC

2002-11-18 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I heard from two very reliable sources that it's being worked out.
It better be, I have never been!

 Inbox Message 

 From:  Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: (313) body and soul NYC
 Date:  19/11/2002 4:06:10
 To:  Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Rc'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org

 Does anyone know if this is expected to kick off again any time soon? I have
 a friend in NYC that could use an excuse to move his feet. Is Ron Trent
 still residing somewhere if not?

 Feel free to hit me back offlist.

 Thanks,

 Tristan
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 New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for
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 - Original Message -
 From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Rc' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:35 AM
 Subject: RE: (313) body and soul NYC




RE: (313) 8-Mile - Detroit music history

2002-11-18 Thread Fred Heutte
It's quite possible that Jon Drukman was subbed to uk-dance a decade
ago -- I was, and a lot of us west coasters joined ne-raves and dc-raves
and so on for the same reason, there were a few hundred of us online
worldwide and it was exciting to hook up to a truly global and co-evolving
music and technology scene.

It was a different world -- most of the online action was on the now-
forgotten world of BBSes, AOL had less than half a million subscribers,
and you could read all postings in a dozen Usenet newsgroups every day
and not fall behind.  It was kind of nice, actually, even at 2400 bps.

Anyway, nowadays we get more spam than real email, and Jon Drukman is
still making great music, now with his live electro-pop version of 
Bass Kittens.

Fred



(313) Sir Roland Hanna

2002-11-18 Thread Cyborg K
I didn't know if this had been posted to the list, thought some might find
it of interest.
/dave


November 15, 2002
Roland Hanna, Jazz Pianist and Composer, Dies at 70
By PETER KEEPNEWS


Roland Hanna, a versatile jazz pianist whose deft touch, lush harmonies and
encyclopedic knowledge enabled him to fit comfortably in a wide range of
musical contexts, died on Wednesday in Hackensack, N.J. He was 70 and lived
in Liberty, N.Y.

The cause was a viral infection of the heart, his family said.

Mr. Hanna was, as John S. Wilson of The New York Times said in 1985, an
impeccably polished performer who was as much at home in
turn-of-the-century ragtime as he is in the works of John Coltrane.

Nor were his influences limited to jazz: his harmonically complex
improvisations were also informed by his extensive classical training.

Classical music has always been a driving force for me, he told Zan
Stewart of The Los Angeles Times in 1988, but jazz is my natural music.

Ultimately, Mr. Hanna said, his goal was the obliteration of musical
boundaries. For the average person, music is separated into categories, but
not for me, he said in the same interview. To me, music is food, and I
don't have to say `These are apples and these are pears.' I can say `This is
music and it tastes good.' 

Mr. Hanna's open-minded approach led to work with bandleaders ranging in
approach from the traditional swing of Benny Goodman to the freewheeling
modernism of Charles Mingus.

His grasp of jazz history led to work in the late 1980's and early 90's with
the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra and the Smithsonian Jazz Masterworks
Orchestra, the leading exponents of the jazz repertory movement, and to a
tour as a solo pianist with the Smithsonian Institution's traveling Duke
Ellington exhibition in 1999.

In his later years he focused on composing chamber and orchestral works,
including some pieces he performed with a chamber trio in which he played
cello. In 1993 he was the guest piano soloist when the Detroit Symphony
performed his composition Oasis.

That concert was, among other things, a triumphant homecoming. Roland
Pembroke Hanna was born in Detroit on Feb. 10, 1932, and was considered one
of the leading exponents, along with Tommy Flanagan, Hank Jones and Barry
Harris, of the so-called Detroit school of jazz piano, a style that combined
the dexterity and harmonic sophistication of bebop with the understated
elegance of an earlier era.

Mr. Hanna left Detroit in 1955, when he moved to New York to enroll at the
Juilliard School. (He had briefly studied at the Eastman School of Music two
years earlier, but left because he felt his interest in jazz was being
stifled.)

He had begun studying piano at age 11 and was introduced to jazz in high
school by Flanagan.

He sort of made it seem like I could do it too, so I jumped in, Mr. Hanna
said.

Mr. Hanna once named Mr. Flanagan, who died last year, as one of his three
greatest pianistic influences, along with Art Tatum and Artur Rubinstein.

It took Mr. Hanna some time to graduate from Juilliard because he kept
taking sabbaticals to work #8212; with Goodman, Mingus, Coleman Hawkins and
others #8212; but he finally received his degree in 1960.

From 1963 through 1966 he frequently led a trio at the Five Spot in New
York, and he worked steadily in the 1960's and 70's with the Thad Jones-Mel
Lewis Jazz Orchestra, which he joined in 1966, and with the New York Jazz
Quartet, featuring the saxophonist and flutist Frank Wess, which Mr. Hanna
formed in 1974.

His main income, however, came from teaching. He taught at Eastman, the
Manhattan School of Music, the New School and Queens College. He also
continued playing in jazz clubs and at festivals, and was especially popular
in Japan, where he became ill about three weeks ago.

Mr. Hanna is survived by his wife of 48 years, the former Ramona Woodard;
two sons, Michael and Christopher; two daughters, Cheryl and Cheri; six
grandchildren; two sisters, Winifred Wells and Ethel Brown; and three
brothers, Leonard, Elisha and Lagorce.

For the last three decades Mr. Hanna insisted on being billed as Sir Roland
Hanna. As he explained, the Sir was not an affectation or a casually
bestowed title like Duke or Count. He was knighted by the government of
Liberia in 1970, in recognition of benefit concerts he had given there.





(313) Paging Perspects

2002-11-18 Thread Tobias von Hofsten
Paging Ian Clark (Perspects). Email outdated. Hit back privately.
/Tobias



Re: (313) SLICES #3

2002-11-18 Thread nicole
just grabbing on to the tail end of this to say what a great night this was!
props to ken, emile and toby for making it happen and to all the djs who
played sh*t hot music!
just a reminder too that johnny is playing in ghent (next week i think?),
and you really don't wanna miss it if you live nearby; his sets are amazing!
cheers all,
nicole


-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Odeluga, Ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org
Date: 18 November 2002 10:51
Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3


I'd also like to say how much I enjoyed Saturday night and how good it
is to see UK-313ers turn the party out in such an assured and
professional way! I personally enjoyed the music much more than at the
first Slices - being more of a housey/techno-y person than a modern
electro-y person, I guess that's just natural, but it's also down to the
very high quality sets delivered on the night!

I just wish I had arrived a little bit earlier and a little bit less
drunk...! :)

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 18 November 2002 10:37
| To: Odeluga, Ken; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
| Subject: RE: (313) SLICES #3
|
|
| Morning Ken  Co
|
| Yep a great night, the special Guest certainly lived up to
| all expectations and Johnny played a really electric set.
|
| I had a really good nite I have to say, as I love just
| standing back and
| taking it all in :)
|
| It was nice too see and chat to my fellow 313ers and I hope
| too see you all again on the 21st Dec!
|
| Well done Slices lets hope we can break the time record next time :)
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 18 November 2002 08:41
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org
| Subject: (313) SLICES #3
|
|
| Morning all,
|
| Thanks to everyone who came to the above - especially
| 'regulars'! It was
| another full house and many remarked to me that not only did
| the musical
| standard not flag all evening - but that 'the vibe' was also
| fine - meaning
| we had a crowd of like-minded people for whom the music was
| at least as
| important as the socializing.
|
| Also some key UK techno bigwigs were in the house + 1 very promising
| American (who thanked me for playing 'Hard Life' - you are
| 100% welcome
| dude.)
|
| Thanx especially to our 'Very Special Guest Indeed' ... if you weren't
| there, you may never know who!
|
| ... Suffice to say that the license ran till 2am, but the
| last dancer didn't
| leave till 0245, which speaks for itself. ... A consumate
| performance using
| quality materials. *My* kind of house set#1.
|
| More special thanx to Jonny McIntosh for *my* kind of house
| set#2: jackin',
| deep, soulful, and classic in many places.
|
| If you claim to provide house music for more discerning ears,
| you need to
| book this man:
|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| You've one more chance to party with us. The last Slice will
| be consumed
| 21.12.02. The culmination of our exploration of (some of) the
| roots of our
| music is the techno night.
|
| And that really will be it.
|
| Peace
| k
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(313) The Detroit Experiment

2002-11-18 Thread Andy Mitchell
Has this been mentioned on the list already? Sure looks good to me... I
found the Philadelphia Experiment album a bit samey, but they've widened the
scope for this one and it looks pretty dope. I'm definitely feeling the
C2-produced jazz tracks Space Odyssey' and Midnight At The Twenty Grand.

By the way, I found this on a website called Renaissance Soul, which is new
to me but looks pretty interesting for all of y'all who have been talking
about Detroit hip-hop lately - www.rensoul.com

And finally, while searching for more info on Ropeadope's site I stumbled
across this:

A Tale Of Two Cities:
King Britt and Carl Craig will spin at SHINE in New York City on Wednesday,
Nov 20. Together, they are the unbeatable one-two punch of electronic music.
If you live in NYC, be there or be salty. More info at
http://www.giantstep.net/shows/viewshow.asp?showid=291

Andy

---

The Detroit Experiment
produced by Carl Craig, Karriem Riggins  Aaron Levinson
Ropeadope Records

The Way Me Make Music
12 single - December 2002

Album - February 2002

Following the success of the critically acclaimed Philadelphia Experiment,
Ropeadope's newest music lab is the city of Detroit. With a core band that
includes the founding fathers (and mothers) from the Motor City including
jazz legends Marcus Belgrave, Regina Carter, Gerri Allen, Bennie Maupin, and
more, the roots of the Detroit sound were brought back to the future by
DJ/Producer Carl Craig, and UMA member Karriem Riggins (Slum Village) who
recorded the band over a period of five days at the legendary White Room
Studio in downtown Detroit. The results are spellbinding, mind-blowing and a
true testament to the past, present, and future of the music of Detroit. The
full-length will be released by Ropeadope in February 2003. 

Until then, we present to you a little taste: The Karriem Riggins (Slum
Village) produced The Way We Make Music featuring Michigan's own MC
Invincible with some help from the Athletic Mic League. Not neglecting
Detroit's contribution to the world of Funk, the Detroit Experiment covers
Church which the funk-rock-fusion track that will please the most
discerning of funk fans. The B-side features the talents of Carl Craig
reinterpreting the Marcus Belgrave jazz fun classic titled Space Odyssey
with some help from Marcus himself. The experiment also captured the essence
of real Detroit jazz which can be felt by the flute driven Midnight at the
Twenty Grand. The final track on the B-side is Space Break which takes a
small section of the drum break from Space Odyssey and leaves it open for
producers and DJ's to sample.

Look for the full-length debut of the Detroit Experiment in February 2003
and watch for the national tour coming to a city near you.

The track listing for the single is as followed:

Side A:
1. The Way We Make Music - Full Version
[http://www.rensoul.com/audio/detroitexperiment_theway.ram]
2. The Way We Make Music - Instrumental
3. Church
[http://www.rensoul.com/audio/detroitexperiment_church.ram]

Side B:
1. Space Odyssey
[http://www.rensoul.com/audio/detroitexperiment_spaceodyssey.ram]
2. Midnight at the Twenty Grand
[http://www.rensoul.com/audio/detroitexperiment_midnight.ram]
3. Space Break





Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread David Gillies
PuzzleBox said:
 No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as optic
  nerve or the Auxmen..period

 Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine
 with  a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you.
 Awesome.

Southern Outpost did a pretty darn good cover of Kraftwerk at their
first/last live show in August. I think they did Computer Love??

PATRICK!! ;-)





Re: (313) OT but good for a giggle

2002-11-18 Thread David Gillies
Is there a dirty underwear category by any chance?

Boom-tish!

 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380793792/ref=pd_sim_books_2/102-3654662-3460125?v=glances=books

 Better still is the first link (clean underwear) under this category
 --


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 Cashmere Sweaters from Amazon's Lands' End Store
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RE: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread Patrick Wacher
Thanks Dave,
That is incorrect ;). We did four original songs (one unreleased) and to top
off the performance, did a cover of Kraftwerk's Computer World... live
vocals and all.

I'm trying to find somewhere online that I can host the 30 min mp3 file, so
that anyone interested peepz can d/l it... but the hunt continues ;)

You can find a photo of us in action at http://www.southernoutpost.com ;)
Who's that dashing figure bustin' out on tha mike?

Peace,
Patrick.

-Original Message-
From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/


PuzzleBox said:
 No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as optic
  nerve or the Auxmen..period

 Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine
 with  a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you.
 Awesome.

Southern Outpost did a pretty darn good cover of Kraftwerk at their
first/last live show in August. I think they did Computer Love??

PATRICK!! ;-)





RE: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/

2002-11-18 Thread PuzzleBox
Sorry we at puzzlebox missed that one Patrick we applaud everyone who is 
tryiing to do live performances and put a face to the faceless.


Peace
Puzzlebox Records At 09:30 AM 11/19/2002 +1100, you wrote:

Thanks Dave,
That is incorrect ;). We did four original songs (one unreleased) and to top
off the performance, did a cover of Kraftwerk's Computer World... live
vocals and all.

I'm trying to find somewhere online that I can host the 30 min mp3 file, so
that anyone interested peepz can d/l it... but the hunt continues ;)

You can find a photo of us in action at http://www.southernoutpost.com ;)
Who's that dashing figure bustin' out on tha mike?

Peace,
Patrick.

-Original Message-
From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/


PuzzleBox said:
 No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as optic
  nerve or the Auxmen..period

 Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine
 with  a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you.
 Awesome.

Southern Outpost did a pretty darn good cover of Kraftwerk at their
first/last live show in August. I think they did Computer Love??

PATRICK!! ;-)





(313) 11/15 Metro Area, Hood, Heard

2002-11-18 Thread Joseph Ross Lynn IV

Anyone have to scoop for the poor souls who couldn't get to Chicago?

J.

--
Knecht




(313) Books on Detroit's Music

2002-11-18 Thread Wes
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pick up the book Before Motown to find out about Detroits jazz history
 before motown. Anything about Motown.

Here's the details on that one for all those interested:

Before Motown: A History of Jazz in Detroit, 1920-60, (2001). Lars Bjorn
w/Jim Gallert.

Check these as well, especially the first one:

Dancing in the Street: Motown and the Cultural Politics of Detroit,
(2000). Suzanne E. Smith.

One Nation Under a Groove: Motown and American Culture, (1995). Gerald L.
Early.




(313) kraftwerk covers

2002-11-18 Thread sean deason
speaking of which. I did a cover of Pocket Calculator at my very first live
performance at the first DEMF. see the video at GrooveTech.

sean

- Original Message -
From: PuzzleBox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patrick Wacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/


 Sorry we at puzzlebox missed that one Patrick we applaud everyone who is
 tryiing to do live performances and put a face to the faceless.

 Peace
 Puzzlebox Records At 09:30 AM 11/19/2002 +1100, you wrote:
 Thanks Dave,
 That is incorrect ;). We did four original songs (one unreleased) and to
top
 off the performance, did a cover of Kraftwerk's Computer World... live
 vocals and all.
 
 I'm trying to find somewhere online that I can host the 30 min mp3 file,
so
 that anyone interested peepz can d/l it... but the hunt continues ;)
 
 You can find a photo of us in action at http://www.southernoutpost.com ;)
 Who's that dashing figure bustin' out on tha mike?
 
 Peace,
 Patrick.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Gillies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:15 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) RUR -- http://www.perkowitz.net/rur/
 
 
 PuzzleBox said:
   No one Quite covers Kraftwerk Like Keith Tucker when performing as
optic
nerve or the Auxmen..period
  
   Anyone ever seen tucker perform Its more fun To compute , Man machine
   with  a funked up mix of a barry white tune im gomma love you.
   Awesome.
 
 Southern Outpost did a pretty darn good cover of Kraftwerk at their
 first/last live show in August. I think they did Computer Love??
 
 PATRICK!! ;-)







RE: (313) Books on Detroit's Music

2002-11-18 Thread Matthew MacQueen
We'll need to get these books listed on the 313 site/FAQ...  in addition to the 
already mentioned (ultimate D-techno backgrounder book):  Techno Rebels.  I 
kind of consider that required homework for those new to the list anyway  :)

thanks,
Matt MacQueen

-Original Message-
From: Wes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Books on Detroit's Music


On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pick up the book Before Motown to find out about Detroits jazz history
 before motown. Anything about Motown.

Here's the details on that one for all those interested:

Before Motown: A History of Jazz in Detroit, 1920-60, (2001). Lars Bjorn
w/Jim Gallert.

Check these as well, especially the first one:

Dancing in the Street: Motown and the Cultural Politics of Detroit,
(2000). Suzanne E. Smith.

One Nation Under a Groove: Motown and American Culture, (1995). Gerald L.
Early.




(313) PUZZLEBOX RECORDS PBX 7.O TELEPORTATION

2002-11-18 Thread PuzzleBox

PUZZLEBOX RECORDS NEW RELEASE COMING LATE NOVEMBER

TELEPORTATION  EP -  OPTIC NERVE
PURE TECHNO AND ELECTRONIC FUNK
ADDITIONAL VOCALS PERFORMED BY WANDA DIXON

THOSE WHO KNOW  KNOW,,DETROIT TECHNO

Web Address: http://www.optic-universe.com

Commentary: http://www.optic-universe.com/commentary.html

E-Mail Addresses:

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