(313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith
Re: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
the 14th is traxx and theo parrish at Carbon c u there :) -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith
Re: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
Damn that's a serious line-up right there! Have fun you lucky 313 based people - Original Message - From: ::P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? the 14th is traxx and theo parrish at Carbon c u there :) -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith
Re: (313) kinda interesting
There is bad business to a large extent but I think downloading has some effect. People will always take the free option regardless. I think with commercial albums a large part of it is the lack of AR guidance. So many times you get an album with one or two decent songs. The Beyonce album broke my heart - after reading that interview in Vibe it sounded like she would do something really interesting, but then it's generic. Somewhere along the line they compromised the vision. Ironically the best urban albums this year like Floetry's don't sell. Another article blaming Internet downloading for lowering of sales of the Record industry, when a lot of it is just bad business on Record labels end, and not knowing their fan bases. Why does an LP(album) cost $10 and the same CD (album) costs $15, when it is cheaper for the CD to be made then the record. Ringtones are quicker, cheaper and downloadable. Maybe if they made their music catalogs the same,they migh see the same effect. Dave robin pinning wrote: proof that the music industry's in a bad way: ring tones sell more than cd singles... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3143651.stm robin...
Re: (313) DJ Hell's P Diddy Remix
Actually I think Hell said something like that but in a more upbeat way. I don't mind it. It's harmless. I think scenes can co-exist. you never know it could be what a declining american scene needs, a booster shot form a rap superstar? lol Or the final nail in the coffin. Only time will tell. Dave
Re: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
Here's the full lineup: Hieroglyphic Being LIVE P.A. The Duke aka Traxx Deecoy Derek Plaslaiko Theo Parrish with resident Twonz This week, girls free entry, guys $6 donation. 8pm-2am 11474 Jos Campau 21+ 18+ ladies Friday Hyperactive will be playing at the Works Sat @ the Shelter traxx [international deejay gigolo] decoy [international deejay gigolo] hieroglyphic being -live [spectral sound] mike servito matthew dear There is also a city people music camping trip this weekend. And if you know anything about CPM it will be madness. -K - Original Message - From: ::P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? the 14th is traxx and theo parrish at Carbon c u there :) -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:48 PM Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith
Re: (313) Field Vsti for PC
Field is a multisample based ambience generator. Using original field recordings by Twerk (Shawn Hatfield), Field allows you to generate suitable backing ambience for any track. Free. PC only. Vsti. --- http://www.tweakbench.com/
(313) T.S.O.B.
Hi, can anyone confirm that this track http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples/derrickatfuse206.ram is Master Jay Michael Dee: T.S.O.B. (The Sound of Brooklyn) released in 1980 (some kind of instrumental version it must have been). And is this record hard to find? Thanks, Maarten --- my musical interests http://www.morthenkiang.com/
RE: (313) A world so deep, so liquid...
I don't think it is a sample - could it be an original? From Dusk Til Dawn came out way after Paper Moon and no-one in the movie speaks like that! Touché Records brought out some excellent music. Anyone remember Plasmids by Tata Box Inhibitors? -Original Message- From: Sam MacCutchan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) A world so deep, so liquid... I'm no spotter but I googled that phrase and there were some links to references about Quentin Tarantion's From Dusk To Dawn -Sam - Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: (313) A world so deep, so liquid... Another request for 313's champion spotters on behalf of a friend... Where does the vocal sample on 51 Days' deep house classic 'Paper Moon' on Touche come from? The one that goes: 'Enter a world of your deepest thoughts and desires. A world so deep, so liquid, emanating from your soul...' You can hear the vocal in question in isolation on this extract from an old Farley and Heller Essential mix... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wjh2401/recordsale/enteraworld.mp3 They've obviously got hold of the original source that 51 Days sampled it from, but does anyone know what this original source is? Many thanks in advance... Tom # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) The Aquanauts?
At 10:01 12-8-2003, you wrote: The Spawn of Dreciya... *sigh* You know that this wasn't the answer where I was looking for. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) A world so deep, so liquid...
I don't think it is a sample - could it be an original? From Dusk Til Dawn came out way after Paper Moon and no-one in the movie speaks like that! Yeah, it's definitely not the movie - but as Stewart said the same sample is used in Lexicon Avenue's tech-house track 'From Dusk Til Dawn', from 2001 - so 51 Days and Lexicon Avenue must both have sampled it from somewhere else... Cheers, Tom
(313) OT - where should I live?
Hi folks, With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment presenting itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to the US in the next couple months. But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was going to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) real performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) culture? -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
(313) andres lp
for anyone who's thinking of sleeping on this one, don't. i was tempted not to bother (based on the clips i'd heard) but when i heard this ata decent volume at home i'm glad i didn't. it also works well as an lp (a rare thing!). shame it's not on two bits of vinyl tho i know a couple of places have this still in in the uk (try www.piccadilly.co.uk) but i'd act quick as i'm not sure it's gonna be around for long anyone picked up anything interesting recently? robin...
(313) Stacey Pullen or Derrick May??
Is it just me or does the track listed on the first Transmat comp cd as the collaboration between May and Hillage sound awfully similar to (or just a stripped down version of) Stacey Pullen's Vertigo? The track on the cd comp almost sounds like the beats-only Mayday Mix of vertigo, as the System 7 Mix of Mysterious Traveller on the vinyl sampler sounds completely different than this one. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated, on or offlist. Cheers, Wojtek
RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
Ditto for the 22nd and 23rd in London?? Thanks to those who suggested LOST on the Sunday, would love to make to that event but I can't. cheers Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 04:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith
RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?
Daniel Wang and Maurice Fulton are palying Fabric on the Saturday but just in Room 3 -Original Message- From: Neil Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? Ditto for the 22nd and 23rd in London?? Thanks to those who suggested LOST on the Sunday, would love to make to that event but I can't. cheers Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 04:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Events in London (RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17?)
There is also some 313er action at Public Life on the Sunday, with me and Tristan Watkins playing... there is more information at www.bootytronics.com ! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 14:46 To: Neil Tomlinson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? Daniel Wang and Maurice Fulton are palying Fabric on the Saturday but just in Room 3 -Original Message- From: Neil Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? Ditto for the 22nd and 23rd in London?? Thanks to those who suggested LOST on the Sunday, would love to make to that event but I can't. cheers Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 04:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) events in the d august 14 to august 17? hello list, could you please provide any events happening this weekend in detroit. thanks, keith ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
Re: (313) kinda interesting
db wrote: Why does an LP(album) cost $10 and the same CD (album) costs $15, when it is cheaper for the CD to be made then the record. I'm really interested to know how the money from the sale of a CD is broken up? Does anyone know, or can someone make an educated guess? My problem with CDs is exactly the point above, why are they so expensive then they cost well under $1 to make?? Personally I like to buy CDs when I can, recently I bought a king tubby CD for 3! I only pay full price for a CD if it's a small label which I don't mind supporting. But should anyone downloading RIAA music (which I don't) feel guilty when most of the lost money is going to middle men and fat cats? Perhaps rather than trying to catch people downloading they should re-asses how much money people in the music industry are making, which might include artists too? sorry for OT but it really p*ss*s me off when I hear the RIAA complaining about how much money they're losing :-| -Mike
Re: (313) kinda interesting
Well, there are also a lot of vinyl records that are more expensive than the cd, I think most of these extra costs comes from the artwork. What I dislike is the fact that on a cd there are often more songs or other songs than on the vinyl version. Why do they do that? That you buy both? Or is that just the limited space on vinyl? Well, then make it a double or triple!!! Remco
RE: (313) kinda interesting
Yeah guaranteed it's always the tracks u really wanted missed off the LP too :/ G !!! :) Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) kinda interesting Well, there are also a lot of vinyl records that are more expensive than the cd, I think most of these extra costs comes from the artwork. What I dislike is the fact that on a cd there are often more songs or other songs than on the vinyl version. Why do they do that? That you buy both? Or is that just the limited space on vinyl? Well, then make it a double or triple!!! Remco -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) kinda interesting
try this: http://www.negativland.com/minidis.html (and this, http://www.negativland.com/albini.html, is also interesting, but not really for the same reason) of course none of this has anything to do with music, that's just the 'product'. robin... db wrote: Why does an LP(album) cost $10 and the same CD (album) costs $15, when it is cheaper for the CD to be made then the record. I'm really interested to know how the money from the sale of a CD is broken up? Does anyone know, or can someone make an educated guess? My problem with CDs is exactly the point above, why are they so expensive then they cost well under $1 to make?? Personally I like to buy CDs when I can, recently I bought a king tubby CD for 3! I only pay full price for a CD if it's a small label which I don't mind supporting. But should anyone downloading RIAA music (which I don't) feel guilty when most of the lost money is going to middle men and fat cats? Perhaps rather than trying to catch people downloading they should re-asses how much money people in the music industry are making, which might include artists too? sorry for OT but it really p*ss*s me off when I hear the RIAA complaining about how much money they're losing :-|
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Montreal. Yes I know, its a Canadian city, but you described it to the letter. K. - Original Message - From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 am Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? Hi folks, With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment presenting itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to the US in the next couple months. But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was going to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) real performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) culture? -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: (313) kinda interesting
What I dislike is the fact that on a cd there are often more songs or other songs than on the vinyl version. Why do they do that? That you buy both? Or is that just the limited space on vinyl? Well, then make it a double or triple!!! Often there will be more songs on the CD, as you rightly mention. I don't think that people do it so that you buy both formats. I think it has more to do with the amount of minutes of music, while still getting a reasonable pressing that you are limited to with vinyl. (as against production cost). For example, I had a little moan recently because both the new Pavel Koustick and Andres LP's are both on single vinyl. But - that one piece of single vinyl with cover etc will have cost far more to manufacture than the CD, and the label will still receive less or the same amount from the distributor for that unit. Basically there's no incentive whatsoever to make that a double LP - therefore you have to lose some tracks (due to only having 2 sides to play with), simple as that, and there's your reason.. Which brings me on to something else entirely. Believe me, I am the biggest record junkie I know - I have to have things on vinyl, or original press etc - but I don't see why we should all be so scared of what will happen after vinyl - I see reguarly on this list that people are quick to jump on peoples back when, for example Erick Morillo said that vinyl was a dying format. I mean, its harsh, but unfortunately there is truth in it. Of course, there will always be vinyl collectors of our generation around, and vinyl will never 'die' as such, but will become a more and more obsolete format, just as 78's are now. But there's still a healthy 78's trade going on right? I just find it really surprising that we're all on this list because we think we like forward thinking music - but we're all so SCARED of vinyl 'dying'. Why? Whats the point? OK, the new format won't be the same, but you can bet money that you'll be able to manipulate it in far better ways, and it will be cheaper to maufacture, therefore keeping the 'underground' alive, if not making it far bigger. and this, from the biggest fu**ing record junkie in the world - ask anyone who works in a record shop in Manc. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Iowa City? RE: Techno and music, there's a small but dedicated group of producers here. Loads of DJs, some of whom have skills, taste and no criminal record. If you ask anyone who's DJ'ed or played in Iowa City, they all love it. RE: Everything else -- University of Iowa is here. Home of the Iowa Writer's Workshop, and nationally ranked Art and Music Departments, great Film program, etc ... Cost of living lower than most places, incredibly lush environmental surroundings, and a few degrees warmer than Detroit throughout the winter ;-) On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Dennis DeSantis wrote: Hi folks, With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment presenting itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to the US in the next couple months. But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was going to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) real performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) culture? -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
RE: (313) kinda interesting
I just find it really surprising that we're all on this list because we think we like forward thinking music - but we're all so SCARED of vinyl 'dying'. Why? Whats the point? OK, the new format won't be the same, but you can bet money that you'll be able to manipulate it in far better ways, and it will be cheaper to maufacture, therefore keeping the 'underground' alive, if not making it far bigger. Well, the reasoning for me is simple. I don't believe that the industry has come up with a more convincing media for recorded music as yet. The sound of a well recorded piece of vinyl is just so much better than I've ever heard a cd come near to. I've also heard SACD and the like and still prefer analogue - it's just more convincing on 'real' instruments. A high level of vinyl reply isn't cheap, and really cds were really designed to give better sound quality at lower a price point. It's funny to find many people discovering the sound of vinyl for the first time, and there is now an increasing 'audiophile' vinyl market growing. Without the mass DJ market, this smaller market may not have been able to exist as many pressing plants etc. would have had to close down. That's why I'm scared of vinyl dying. New technologies are more designed around the economics of the product, rather than how it sounds which to me is the wrong way round.
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
I would second that...I lived in Montreal for 5 years and it was fantastic. The only thing is that sometimes the politics can be a bit hard to deal with - language wars, and the winters are damn cold. And if you don't speak french it can be hard to get work. But, on the positive side, its like living in a wicked European city only you are in North America. The people are hip, the music scene is supportive, tight and prolific, and housing is cheap. Plus, you can eat the worlds best bagels and smoked meat until you are ready to burst - every day, all day! Also, last time I checked working under the table wasn't too hard ;) Good Luck! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 13, 2003 9:37 AM To: Dennis DeSantis Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Montreal. Yes I know, its a Canadian city, but you described it to the letter. K. - Original Message - From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 am Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? Hi folks, With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment presenting itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to the US in the next couple months. But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was going to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) real performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) culture? -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Hearhear!! |-Original Message- |From: Erin Berg (WPL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 15:22 |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |I would second that...I lived in Montreal for 5 years and it |was fantastic. The only thing is that sometimes the politics |can be a bit hard to deal with |- language wars, and the winters are damn cold. And if you |don't speak french it can be hard to get work. But, on the |positive side, its like living in a wicked European city only |you are in North America. The people are hip, the music scene |is supportive, tight and prolific, and housing is cheap. |Plus, you can eat the worlds best bagels and smoked meat until |you are ready to burst - every day, all day! | |Also, last time I checked working under the table wasn't too hard ;) | |Good Luck! | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: August 13, 2003 9:37 AM |To: Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Montreal. | |Yes I know, its a Canadian city, but you described it to the letter. | |K. | |- Original Message - |From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 am |Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? | | Hi folks, | | With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment | presenting | itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to | the US | in the next couple months. | But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was | going | to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. | | What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) | real | performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) | culture? | -- | Dennis DeSantis | www.dennisdesantis.com | | |
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Ann Arbor, Michigan 45 mins away from Detroit. Its a very artistic place, as its the campus of UofM. Home of ghostly and the biggest electronic music club in the region. It is kinda pricey, I will warn. It has a big indie rock scene too. - Original Message - From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Erin Berg (WPL)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Hearhear!! |-Original Message- |From: Erin Berg (WPL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 15:22 |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |I would second that...I lived in Montreal for 5 years and it |was fantastic. The only thing is that sometimes the politics |can be a bit hard to deal with |- language wars, and the winters are damn cold. And if you |don't speak french it can be hard to get work. But, on the |positive side, its like living in a wicked European city only |you are in North America. The people are hip, the music scene |is supportive, tight and prolific, and housing is cheap. |Plus, you can eat the worlds best bagels and smoked meat until |you are ready to burst - every day, all day! | |Also, last time I checked working under the table wasn't too hard ;) | |Good Luck! | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: August 13, 2003 9:37 AM |To: Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Montreal. | |Yes I know, its a Canadian city, but you described it to the letter. | |K. | |- Original Message - |From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 am |Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? | | Hi folks, | | With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment | presenting | itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to | the US | in the next couple months. | But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was | going | to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. | | What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) | real | performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) | culture? | -- | Dennis DeSantis | www.dennisdesantis.com | | |
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
that's easy enough to get around if you're willing to live on the ypsilanti side-of-things. On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: Ann Arbor, Michigan It is kinda pricey, I will warn.
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Second that. Another good choice: Akron, Oh. Several excellent junkyards, Swenson's, Akron music, etc. Ben On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: Ann Arbor, Michigan 45 mins away from Detroit. Its a very artistic place, as its the campus of UofM. Home of ghostly and the biggest electronic music club in the region. It is kinda pricey, I will warn. It has a big indie rock scene too. - Original Message - From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Erin Berg (WPL)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Hearhear!! |-Original Message- |From: Erin Berg (WPL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 15:22 |To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |I would second that...I lived in Montreal for 5 years and it |was fantastic. The only thing is that sometimes the politics |can be a bit hard to deal with |- language wars, and the winters are damn cold. And if you |don't speak french it can be hard to get work. But, on the |positive side, its like living in a wicked European city only |you are in North America. The people are hip, the music scene |is supportive, tight and prolific, and housing is cheap. |Plus, you can eat the worlds best bagels and smoked meat until |you are ready to burst - every day, all day! | |Also, last time I checked working under the table wasn't too hard ;) | |Good Luck! | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: August 13, 2003 9:37 AM |To: Dennis DeSantis |Cc: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Montreal. | |Yes I know, its a Canadian city, but you described it to the letter. | |K. | |- Original Message - |From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:25 am |Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? | | Hi folks, | | With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment | presenting | itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to | the US | in the next couple months. | But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was | going | to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. | | What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) | real | performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) | culture? | -- | Dennis DeSantis | www.dennisdesantis.com | | |
Re: (313) kinda interesting
downloading undoubtedly has a negative effect on music sales, but there's no doubt that it has a possitive effect either. the recording industry has in my opinion been whining way too long about the negative effects, instead of using the possitive effects, and making the negative effects work in their advantage. or like number 14 uses to say: there's an advantage to every disadvantage. on the other hand there are more reasons why you can still not easily download songs of a website, like you can with ringtones. one of them is the way the musicmarket works: the recordingcompany does not sell it's product directly to the consumer, it sells it's product to retailers, who in turn sell it to the public. there have been attempts by the major recordingcompanies, to offer some of their catalog to the public through the internet, but they faced repercussions by their 'customers' the retailers, whom, out of fear of loosing their bussiness, decided not to buy music from that recordcompany any more. as music sales in cd's cassettes etc. was still the main source of income for these recordcompanies, they could not afford to loose their bussiness on one side, to gain a still uncertain new market. i've read a somewhat interesting book about the development of the music-industry from the development of the internet to where it is now. unfortunately it didn't give any thoughts on the [possible] future, but still an interesting read. i've got it somewhere at home, if anyone's interested i could look it up, just let me know. apart from that i think that setting up a working mp3 distribution, is not an easy thing to do. i've been thinking about it a lot, but there are so many different aspects you'll have to considder. for instance: one person could copy your distribution network, buy all his mp3's at your site, and then sell them for half the price on his own site. dunno why cd's are as expensive as they are; i think i a cd-album costs something like 21 euro's [about $23] right now in the netherlands [not sure, can't even remember the last time i bought a cd...] whereas a vinyl-album will cost you somewhere between 19 to 28 euro's [about $20-30] you could say that 90% of the cd shop are located in the center of town, so will therefore will have to pay more rent, resulting in higher costs, which will reflect in the price of the product. jurren for all dutch speaking peeps on here, here's a site of a dutch law-firm that's got an excellent blog, where they keep up with all internet related cases. they're representing kazaa amongst others: http://www.solv.nl _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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Ypsi represent!!! Ann Arbor's cheaper cousin, baby - home of Double Helix (Emoticon, Rush Hour), Abe's Coney Island, and Elvisfest. Oh, and I live there, too, so it's not like I'm exactly unbiased. Ypsilanti's only 15 minutes from Ann Arbor and 40 minutes from downtown Detroit, too. bvl that's easy enough to get around if you're willing to live on the ypsilanti side-of-things. On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: Ann Arbor, Michigan It is kinda pricey, I will warn. -- http://www.chromedecay.org
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move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Well, the reasoning for me is simple. I don't believe that the industry has come up with a more convincing media for recorded music as yet. The sound of a well recorded piece of vinyl is just so much better than I've ever heard a cd come near to. I've also heard SACD and the like and still prefer analogue - it's just more convincing on 'real' instruments. Im still surprised that people say this - don't get me wrong I love vinyl but surely the noise introduced alone through the vinyl/needle/coil mechanism must far defeat the advatages of no digital noise / aliasing and reduction of harmonics ?? Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
F*** the US and the UK! Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona.Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Did I mention Barcelona? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Don't forget your shirt with line pattern design and white shoes. Or, if you're just going out to the shops, a pair of 2-stripe adidas track pants tucked into your white socks for ultimate streetwise comfort. Combined with your sway walk and cap on sideways, you're sure to impress the deadliest of katz. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 15:57 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | | |move to Manchester, England. | |it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. | |loads of artists as well. (piss artists) | |its great. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
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Hmmm... Tough one.. Well, okay, it's not America... But hey.. BRISBANE Australia The 313 Capital of Austrialia :) -- This message brought to you by: Put another gimp on the barby - Original Message - From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:25 PM Subject: (313) OT - where should I live? Hi folks, With the summer coming to a close and no steady employment presenting itself here in Berlin, I'm probably going to be heading back to the US in the next couple months. But where? For the past decade, I've been living wherever I was going to school, so I've never had to actually make a decision. What are the cool cities I may not have thought of, with (or near) real performing opportunities and a vibrant artistic (not just techno) culture? -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
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No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
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Marc Langsman wrote: Im still surprised that people say this - don't get me wrong I love vinyl but surely the noise introduced alone through the vinyl/needle/coil mechanism must far defeat the advatages of no digital noise / aliasing and reduction of harmonics ?? Perhaps the physical/mechanical noise has an effect similar to the impact noise when striking a keyboard, ie. it forms part of the sound. Without the introduction of tone-arm noise, maybe the sound is incomplete... Cheers, Sven
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I think Stewart and Alex should get a job at the UK tourist board ;) I'm from Manchester and Alex has a nice way of it making sound better than it actually is. If you do want to move to UK then Edinburgh is about the nicest city, decent arts festival I've heard ;). I lived there for 4 years and cant wait to go back. Glasgow is quite nerby too. Barcelona is okay too :) -Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
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Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
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Perhaps the physical/mechanical noise has an effect similar to the impact noise when striking a keyboard, ie. it forms part of the sound. Without the introduction of tone-arm noise, maybe the sound is incomplete... That's quiet an intersting point actually ... Although would you have to assume the composer wrote the piece with vinyl medium in mind ? Peace, marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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Isn't the urban wasteland supposed to be the most inspiring environment for electronic music? So maybe you should move to Croydon. ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Brighton on the other hand! Now that's a cool place to live. Certainly the best place on the South Coast and where I'm moving back to in the next couple of months! Theres a fairly decent amount of cool little techno and deep house nights going off too. - Original Message - From: Michael Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? I think Stewart and Alex should get a job at the UK tourist board ;) I'm from Manchester and Alex has a nice way of it making sound better than it actually is. If you do want to move to UK then Edinburgh is about the nicest city, decent arts festival I've heard ;). I lived there for 4 years and cant wait to go back. Glasgow is quite nerby too. Barcelona is okay too :) -Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
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True Denham lived in kalamazoo right? ;) |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 17:12 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Isn't the urban wasteland supposed to be the most inspiring |environment for electronic music? So maybe you should move to |Croydon. ;-) | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:10 PM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as |often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something |great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its |just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care |in the community and people who generally look like thier face |would crack if they dared smile. | | |- Original Message - |From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? | |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | |No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing |remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you |can go into town and have a fight! | |- Original Message - |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | | | move to Manchester, England. | | it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. | | loads of artists as well. (piss artists) | | its great. | _ | | - End of message text | | This e-mail is sent by the above named in their | individual, non-business capacity and is not on | behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | | PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and | other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. | By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring | | | | | | |___ |_ |__ |Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ | |Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association |awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. | | | | | |___ |___ |Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ | |Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association |awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. | | |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
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yEa yEa! Ypsi REPREZENT Naw, but really...it's not bad. You can still get a house for a decent price. Not to mention you can also still earn about 15k a year in equity. Close to a-squared, detroit etc.. Although if you have the $$, San Francisco has to be the best place I've lived. Consistent weather, TONS to do and MANY active music scene's. Looks like a postcard everywhere you go, etc. ...and believe it or not, there's a LOT of sUpa hot, single (and straight) girls out there. Ahhh...I miss that place. d$ -Original Message- From: Bill Van Loo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Ypsi represent!!! Ann Arbor's cheaper cousin, baby - home of Double Helix (Emoticon, Rush Hour), Abe's Coney Island, and Elvisfest. Oh, and I live there, too, so it's not like I'm exactly unbiased. Ypsilanti's only 15 minutes from Ann Arbor and 40 minutes from downtown Detroit, too. bvl that's easy enough to get around if you're willing to live on the ypsilanti side-of-things. On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Kookie wrote: Ann Arbor, Michigan It is kinda pricey, I will warn. -- http://www.chromedecay.org
Re: (313) kinda interesting
Im still surprised that people say this - don't get me wrong I love vinyl but surely the noise introduced alone through the vinyl/needle/coil mechanism must far defeat the advatages of no digital noise / aliasing and reduction of harmonics ?? Perhaps the physical/mechanical noise has an effect similar to the impact noise when striking a keyboard, ie. it forms part of the sound. Without the introduction of tone-arm noise, maybe the sound is incomplete... well there are high-end audiophile ttables which have, supposedly, virtually 0 mechanical noise. if the music industry had embraced vinyl the way it did cd's they'd probably be consumer grade and affordable by now instead of audiophile. anyways, im not pointing to vinyl specifically, but i do think some form of analog technology is the solution to the record industry's problems with cd's/mp3s/digital. anything analog will always be much more of a pain in the ass to bootleg or rip-to-mp3. and by definition analog is higher-fidelity than digital -- digital is made of blocks of 0's and 1's and is always an approximation of an original analog, or live, sound. but of course companies are much too invested in digital media to go back to analog development now.. jt _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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You won't find inspiration in Croydon, maybe negative inspiration. Yet Stewart's appraisal of the Manhattan of the South, whilst factually correct, does miss the point that you can live on the fringes of London, enjoy all it's cultural benefits, fly anywhere in the world (superb transport links - all major airports in London are less than 1 hour away), and not have to pay the rent that comes with living in the centre of the capital itself. There is Big Apple, and plus of course europe' s largest 2nd hand record shop. But I would'nt recommend it! Toby www.bleep43.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Brixton's where it's at! You can definitely find inspiration there and the cab/bus fares home are cheaper. -Original Message- From: Bleep43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? You won't find inspiration in Croydon, maybe negative inspiration. Yet Stewart's appraisal of the Manhattan of the South, whilst factually correct, does miss the point that you can live on the fringes of London, enjoy all it's cultural benefits, fly anywhere in the world (superb transport links - all major airports in London are less than 1 hour away), and not have to pay the rent that comes with living in the centre of the capital itself. There is Big Apple, and plus of course europe' s largest 2nd hand record shop. But I would'nt recommend it! Toby www.bleep43.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
I'd go along with that. The Bug Bar is one of my favourite places to get tanked up in when I'm up that way. Stewart - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bleep43 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Brixton's where it's at! You can definitely find inspiration there and the cab/bus fares home are cheaper. -Original Message- From: Bleep43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? You won't find inspiration in Croydon, maybe negative inspiration. Yet Stewart's appraisal of the Manhattan of the South, whilst factually correct, does miss the point that you can live on the fringes of London, enjoy all it's cultural benefits, fly anywhere in the world (superb transport links - all major airports in London are less than 1 hour away), and not have to pay the rent that comes with living in the centre of the capital itself. There is Big Apple, and plus of course europe' s largest 2nd hand record shop. But I would'nt recommend it! Toby www.bleep43.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
(313) This weekend in London
Rob Hood is playing Fabric London (room 2) this Saturday - Wang and Fulton are the week after... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? I'd go along with that. The Bug Bar is one of my favourite places to get tanked up in when I'm up that way. Stewart - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bleep43 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Brixton's where it's at! You can definitely find inspiration there and the cab/bus fares home are cheaper. -Original Message- From: Bleep43 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? You won't find inspiration in Croydon, maybe negative inspiration. Yet Stewart's appraisal of the Manhattan of the South, whilst factually correct, does miss the point that you can live on the fringes of London, enjoy all it's cultural benefits, fly anywhere in the world (superb transport links - all major airports in London are less than 1 hour away), and not have to pay the rent that comes with living in the centre of the capital itself. There is Big Apple, and plus of course europe' s largest 2nd hand record shop. But I would'nt recommend it! Toby www.bleep43.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? Big Apple? Nope. I tend to avoid Croydon shopping centre as often as possible. Maybe Toby can shed some light on something great and spiritual I'm missing about Croydon, but to me its just a dirty big hellhole full of 15 year old crackheads, care in the community and people who generally look like thier face would crack if they dared smile. - Original Message - From: Warren Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:07 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Have you shopped in Big Apple? Do you know John from Big Apple??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 16:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? No, you should move to Croydon. There's absolutly nothing remotley cultural or artistic to do and on a Friday night you can go into town and have a fight! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? move to Manchester, England. it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. loads of artists as well. (piss artists) its great. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Mucker alert! ;) MEK Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], thog.co.uk 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/13/03 09:55 AMSubject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Don't forget your shirt with line pattern design and white shoes. Or, if you're just going out to the shops, a pair of 2-stripe adidas track pants tucked into your white socks for ultimate streetwise comfort. Combined with your sway walk and cap on sideways, you're sure to impress the deadliest of katz. |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 15:57 |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | | |move to Manchester, England. | |it rains all the time, and is full of crackheads. | |loads of artists as well. (piss artists) | |its great. |_ | |- End of message text | |This e-mail is sent by the above named in their |individual, non-business capacity and is not on |behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. | |PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming |e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and |telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you |give your consent to such monitoring | | |
Re: (313) Fw: Clone.nl mailing
Dear Mr Clone, any more info on when the breaking glass thing is dropping? Has it got the same tracks as the original 12? I Thank You. Alex P.S. you fancy doing the Clarence G too?? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
You've got to be kidding! ;) There's sun, beach, but... BRISBANE Australia The 313 Capital of Austrialia :)
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Yeah,, and butts.. :) - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 1:30 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? You've got to be kidding! ;) There's sun, beach, but... BRISBANE Australia The 313 Capital of Austrialia :)
(313) Anything in Atlanta?
As a corollary to Dennis' question of where to live, I've recently received an offer from a studio in Atlanta. Anything going on there techno-wise? - the other Prince of techno - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and music
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one thing, but now we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below me' at the end real quick here ok. Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless email this has generated is, simply put, stupid. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Aww I was having fun -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one thing, but now we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below me' at the end real quick here ok. Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless email this has generated is, simply put, stupid. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless email this has generated is, simply put, stupid. agreed, but to moan about it just creates more traffic... just post about music and stuff like that will go away robin...
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation blimey |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 18:17 |To: Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Aww I was having fun | |-Original Message- |From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | | |And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. | |Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one |thing, but now |we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? | |Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop |culture is below |me' at the end real quick here ok. | |Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless |email this has |generated is, simply put, stupid. | |_ |The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* |http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
I'm glad that's there - I can heartily slag off the programes to my hearts content but that's OT, so I won't :-p -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:14 PM To: Robert Taylor; Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation blimey |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 18:17 |To: Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Aww I was having fun | |-Original Message- |From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM |To: 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? | | | |And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. | |Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one |thing, but now |we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? | |Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop |culture is below |me' at the end real quick here ok. | |Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless |email this has |generated is, simply put, stupid. | |_ |The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* |http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail | |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## | # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
According to that we're an entity. Not bad :) |-Original Message- |From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: 13 August 2003 18:21 |To: Ryan Snowden; Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |I'm glad that's there - I can heartily slag off the programes |to my hearts content but that's OT, so I won't :-p | |-Original Message- |From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:14 PM |To: Robert Taylor; Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org |Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? | | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation | |blimey | ||-Original Message- ||From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Sent: 13 August 2003 18:17 ||To: Jayson B.; 313@hyperreal.org ||Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? || || ||Aww I was having fun || ||-Original Message- ||From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ||Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM ||To: 313@hyperreal.org ||Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? || || || ||And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. || ||Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one ||thing, but now ||we're discussing where someone should live and talking about |rear ends? || ||Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop ||culture is below ||me' at the end real quick here ok. || ||Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless ||email this has ||generated is, simply put, stupid. || ||_ ||The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* ||http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail || ||### ||## ||Note: || ||Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do ||not necessarily represent ||those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless ||specifically stated. This email ||and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely ||for the use of the ||individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have ||received this email in ||error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] || ||Thank You. ||### ||## || |### |## |Note: | |Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do |not necessarily represent |those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless |specifically stated. This email |and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely |for the use of the |individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have |received this email in |error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Thank You. |### |## |
(313) thanks, y'all
Thanks everyone for the flurry of suggestions. I came home and my box was stuffed. Now, to bring it back on topic: Alexander Kowalski's new album |response| is coming out soon on Kanzleramt. It's fantastic. Go buy it. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
(313) Alexander Kowalski's (was RE: (313) thanks, y'all)
I don't know much of his stuff but i did happen to catch him live in Hamburg a few months ago. Damn fine live set with the microphone and live vocoding. One of the more impressive live sets i have seen. Funky sounds also. Quest -Original Message- From: Dennis DeSantis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2003 5:25 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) thanks, y'all Thanks everyone for the flurry of suggestions. I came home and my box was stuffed. Now, to bring it back on topic: Alexander Kowalski's new album |response| is coming out soon on Kanzleramt. It's fantastic. Go buy it. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Robert Taylor wrote: Aww I was having fun -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one thing, but now we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below me' at the end real quick here ok. Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless email this has generated is, simply put, stupid. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re[2]: (313) OT - where should I live?
d NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! For our Spanish-speaking friends: http://www.bprince.com/jibbajabba.jpg - the other Prince of techno - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and music
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
If a like minded guy on this list, who happens incidently to make some superb techno music, wants to ask other like minded people where he should move to then what is the problem with that? Most threads will veer slightly OT and become something of a chatting session amongst friends, especially when the weather is this hot and people are bored and hot at work. SO what, theres more to an Internet newsgroup than just simple sharing relevant news, its also a community and as such people are gonna shoot the sh!t with eachother. If you dont like it I suggest you filter your email to block any message that clearly states OT in the subject. Simple! Stewart - Original Message - From: doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Er...I think Doris was being like, er, ironic dude. Brits don't have a monopoly on sarcasm! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? If a like minded guy on this list, who happens incidently to make some superb techno music, wants to ask other like minded people where he should move to then what is the problem with that? Most threads will veer slightly OT and become something of a chatting session amongst friends, especially when the weather is this hot and people are bored and hot at work. SO what, theres more to an Internet newsgroup than just simple sharing relevant news, its also a community and as such people are gonna shoot the sh!t with eachother. If you dont like it I suggest you filter your email to block any message that clearly states OT in the subject. Simple! Stewart - Original Message - From: doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 8 August 2003
Clinically Inclined 8 August 2003 10:30pm - 1:00am CDT live stream www.wnur.org during showtime / 89.3 FM in Chicago part oneMatt MacQueen Kirk Degiorgio - Holy (New Religion) Aril Brikha - Groove La Chord - Deeparture In Time (Transmat) Iridite Productions feat. Rei Loci - Deep Blue (Iridite) Frequency - Square Methods - Kiss The Sky (Lower East Side) Reese Santonio - How To Play Our Music (KMS) Francois de Roubiax - Le Mer Est Grande - Carl Craig remix (Cinemix) Baby Ford - Fordtrax (Rhythm King) Mu - Chair Girl (Tiger Sushi) DJ Big Time Fashion - Tracky Thrills - The Me Me Me EP (Big Bear) The Flirts - Passion - Special Import Remix (O Records) '82 Niger - Space Opera - (Film Version) (Money Moon) '85 Dance Reaction - Disco Train - Morgan Geist Caboose Mix (Unclassics) Theo Parrish - Carpet People Don't Drink Steak Soda (Sound Signature) Mike 'Agent X' Clark - Motown - Motown ep (Third Ear) Just One - Will We Meet Again - UI EP (Rush Hour) part twoDr. Siska sanasol - mjuk brjo - cosy ep (66 degrees) theo parrish - lost angel (music is) herbert - leave me now (soundslike) detalles - solm - shapes of summer (traum) osborne - hydraglim exit (spectral) oz artists - art of wrestling (oz interactive) aberration - if you lose your shadow - dan curtin rmx (flaw) peel seamus - 2-1-1 - elusive souls (delsin) specimen 2 - carl craig/talking heads (moxie) circulation - memory (balance) duplex - martian lakes - ep3 (clone) la synthesis - harmonic disassembly (evolution / universal language) gosub - sordon escape - sordon escape (isophlux) anthony rother - a1 - warm ep (i220) dj skull - when will i be free (majesty) echoplex - etiude in e major - just wanna be with you (end to end) mick harris - walkabout mix - immersion remixes (swim) peace
RE: (313) OT - where should I live?
Yeah we do! Apologies though for Doris if she was indeed being sarcarstic, just had a sudden urge for a moan for no particular reason. - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? Er...I think Doris was being like, er, ironic dude. Brits don't have a monopoly on sarcasm! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:00 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? If a like minded guy on this list, who happens incidently to make some superb techno music, wants to ask other like minded people where he should move to then what is the problem with that? Most threads will veer slightly OT and become something of a chatting session amongst friends, especially when the weather is this hot and people are bored and hot at work. SO what, theres more to an Internet newsgroup than just simple sharing relevant news, its also a community and as such people are gonna shoot the sh!t with eachother. If you dont like it I suggest you filter your email to block any message that clearly states OT in the subject. Simple! Stewart - Original Message - From: doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
Re: (313) Alexander Kowalski's (was RE: (313) thanks, y'all)
yeah, I can recommend both of Kowalski's albums - 'echoes' and 'progress', echos reminds me a lot of purposemaker style techno, progress has better productions, but IMHO the vocal tracks are very weak. however the collaboration album 'reasons' with Denis and Diego is even better one of my favourite albums of last year. oh, and the kowalski remix of agoria's 'la 11eme marche' is also fantastic. I was wondering what list members think of agoria - I've heard 'la 11eme marche' in a number of very different clubs - from a warehouse party to a nasty little club here in southampton, it sounded very cheesy in the bad club and very powerful in the warehouse so I had to grab the vinyl :) they did a v.nice mix cd 'circle room three turn' that has a lot of 313 related tracks including some transmat material IIRC - was really impressed by it. matt :) . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Looking for record stores in Alberta
Hi all, This is probably a long shot, but... is there anyone on here who knows of the independent record stores in Edmonton, AB, Canada that sell techno/db/rap etc. , or of anyone you could put me in touch with someone who might know? I'm trying to help my mom with an electronic music project for the kids in her school in the fall and it would help if I could tell them where to go to get this stuff besides HMV! Thanks for any help you can offer. Berg
Re: (313) Looking for record stores in Alberta
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:33:28 -0400, Erin Berg (WPL) wrote: Hi all, This is probably a long shot, but... is there anyone on here who knows of the independent record stores in Edmonton, AB, Canada that sell techno/db/rap etc. , or of anyone you could put me in touch with someone who might know? I'm trying to help my mom with an electronic music project for the kids in her school in the fall and it would help if I could tell them where to go to get this stuff besides HMV! Thanks for any help you can offer. Berg Erin: Happened to play a show there two weeks ago; the two indie stores that carry electronic in Edmonton that I know of are: --Listen Records CDs 10649-124 Street tel (780) 732-1132 http://www.listenrecords.net --Foosh (don't have the address--I'm in Halifax NS--but I know they have a website, so google foosh + records + edmonton for the info) hope this helps. take care. Andrew Duke out now: Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Take Nothing For Granted http://acidfake.tk Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com Waveforms: Halifax Electronic Music Compilation http://techno.ca/cognition
(313) Cool Trevor Horn quote...
Hello, I happened to be in my local Oxfam shop and found an old Sound On Sound from August 1994, containing interviews with Trevor Horn and FSOL, the latter with great pictures of their kit at the time. Anyway, this quote from the Trevor Horn interview inspired me, following on from the 80s-flavoured conversations of late... quote With The Buggles we didn't actually have much gear at all, just a Minipops Junior -- one of those little rhythm boxes. But when I got going as a producer, and did ABC's Lexicon Of Love album, I put together a little rig that consisted of a [Roland] TR808 -- with triggers put on the side by Dave Simmons of Simmons drums -- a Mini Moog with CV gates on it, a set of Simmons drum modules, and a very strange Roland sequencer which in essence acted just like a playlist; you'd just bang a list of notes into it -- you know, 10 As, four Bs and a B-flat! I just used to drive the whole thing from the TR808, with a cowbell triggering the synth, and a combination of the TR808 and the Simmons comprising the drums. It was a very effective little system, and I did most of the ABC album with it, as well as the Dollar records. It was almost like painting by numbers -- the drummer and I would programme the track and lay that down first, and then he'd play on top of it and we'd take it away. /quote How techno is that setup? It's definitely inspired me to check out his output, with that much cool thinking going into the sound. It turns out that the interview is online, in case anyone wants to read it, at: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_articles/aug94/trevorhorn.html Hope this isn't too off-topic? F*ck it, just press delete. Cheers, Andrew PS. The SOS website has some great interviews, it's good if you want to get under the skin of some great producers and electronic artists.
(313) detroit this weekend
Mixworks Presents Buzz Goree Kevin Hanson thirty something Birthday Bash (Free) at The Johanson Gallery from 9:30 p.m. until DJs Norm Talley-Beat Down Sounds DJ Black Out-Det Plus surprise Guest DJ Live Pa's By Chaos, Tony Brown and hosted by Bill 'Billy Love Beaver Its Free The Johanson Gallery is at 1345 Division-Eastern Market
Re: (313) Cool Trevor Horn quote...
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How techno is that setup? It's definitely inspired me to check out his output, with that much cool thinking going into the sound. trevor horn's work with seal is absolutely brilliant. seal is a fantastic vocalist, and trevor horn's productions fit him perfectly. tom andythepooh.com
(313) was: OT - where should I live?
Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below me' at the end real quick here ok. speaking of being more 313 related, I seem to be having trouble posting this, and it is definitely is list-related, so here :) The track listed on the first Transmat comp cd as the collaboration between May and Hillage sounds awfully similar to (or just a stripped down version of) Stacey Pullen's Vertigo? The track on the cd comp almost sounds like the beats-only Mayday Mix of vertigo, as the System 7 Mix of Mysterious Traveller on the vinyl sampler sounds completely different than this one. (did they perhaps collaborate?) Any clarification would be greatly appreciated, on or offlist. Thanks in advance, Wojtek
Re: (313) Cool Trevor Horn quote...
One word - Tatu MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. To: 313@hyperreal.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: h.com Subject: Re: (313) Cool Trevor Horn quote... 08/13/03 02:43 PM Please respond to death -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How techno is that setup? It's definitely inspired me to check out his output, with that much cool thinking going into the sound. trevor horn's work with seal is absolutely brilliant. seal is a fantastic vocalist, and trevor horn's productions fit him perfectly. tom andythepooh.com
(313) philly
i sent an email a while back about philly but unfortunately deleted the response. i'm going to philly for labor day weekend (8.27-8.31) and am looking for house/techno spots. the deeper the better. thanks! lks
Re: (313) philly
well, I'm not gonna be very useful, by saying that there will be 2 deep/minimal techno events on sept 3 and sept 6... - wednesday sept 3: SmartyPants (Traum) + Greg Shiff (Persona), both playing LIVE, at Hologram (it's at La Tazza, 108 chestnut st), brought to you by http://www.tbtmo.com - saturday sept 6: Algorithm (Jeff Milligan), playing at PitchSpork (with local support by Pneuma, Sean O'Neal and DJ Kate), a new monthly party happening at Silk City (5th and SpringGarden), brought to you by the soon-to-be-born new minimal tek label out of philly (more on that later) I'm afraid you won't find anything deep/minimal techno-ish during your dates, but you can check out a listing of weekly events at http://www.citypaper.net, and easily find deephouse events (soma is usually a good place to go). check out for stuffs happening at the 215 spot, it's a new bar with techno events sometimes; cheers, sylvain http://www.dreamlabrecords.com/DreamLabzFM.htm http://www.bastardjazz.com Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: i sent an email a while back about philly but unfortunately deleted the response. i'm going to philly for labor day weekend (8.27-8.31) and am looking for house/techno spots. the deeper the better. thanks! lks
Re: (313) philly
i heart philly. not sure of any deep/minimal events either. bt sometimes the 700 club is a good spot and also check out Chris's in center city for jazz. In addition to city paper (that formentioned DJ, Sean Oneill does their listings) also check out philadelphiaweekly.com. have a great time in an awesome town. d --- Cyhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, I'm not gonna be very useful, by saying that there will be 2 deep/minimal techno events on sept 3 and sept 6... - wednesday sept 3: SmartyPants (Traum) + Greg Shiff (Persona), both playing LIVE, at Hologram (it's at La Tazza, 108 chestnut st), brought to you by http://www.tbtmo.com - saturday sept 6: Algorithm (Jeff Milligan), playing at PitchSpork (with local support by Pneuma, Sean O'Neal and DJ Kate), a new monthly party happening at Silk City (5th and SpringGarden), brought to you by the soon-to-be-born new minimal tek label out of philly (more on that later) I'm afraid you won't find anything deep/minimal techno-ish during your dates, but you can check out a listing of weekly events at http://www.citypaper.net, and easily find deephouse events (soma is usually a good place to go). check out for stuffs happening at the 215 spot, it's a new bar with techno events sometimes; cheers, sylvain http://www.dreamlabrecords.com/DreamLabzFM.htm http://www.bastardjazz.com Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: i sent an email a while back about philly but unfortunately deleted the response. i'm going to philly for labor day weekend (8.27-8.31) and am looking for house/techno spots. the deeper the better. thanks! lks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: (313) OT - where should I live?
Spaß wird die Erlaubnis gehabt nicht auf dieser Liste... Wenn Doris meint, haben Sie Spaß, sie essen Sie! - Original Message - From: doris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: RE: (313) OT - where should I live? NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS LIST!! On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Robert Taylor wrote: Aww I was having fun -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:16 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT - where should I live? And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not. Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one thing, but now we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends? Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below me' at the end real quick here ok. Take it offlist if you would, because the amount of useless email this has generated is, simply put, stupid. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
