RE: (313) Derrick May - The Bush Administration Are the Biggest War Criminals of the 21st Century
My girl (chick) is intrinsically knowledgable, and I am playing alongside Derrick May @ T-funkshun on Friday. Let's hope he find his own. :o) -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2004 14:43 To: Cyclone Wehner; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: AW: (313) Derrick May - The Bush Administration Are the Biggest War Criminals of the 21st Century Sometimes I am shocked that some really intelligent males who love to share their music with others choose these girls that are not into the music at all (but are really good looking)... some people just aren't into soul mates methinks But then, music isn't everything. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 2. Februar 2004 15:13 An: 313 Detroit Betreff: Re: (313) Derrick May - The Bush Administration Are the Biggest War Criminals of the 21st Century Hey, that's me, but I'm dieting. ;) But 80 percent of the male trainspotters *I know* go out with ornaments, not intrinsically knowledgeable 'chicks, usually 21 years old, then they get frustrated that they don't have someone who gets their music. ;) It takes hours and money and effort to be the perfect female specimen, doesn't leave much time for music. ; -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May - The Bush Administration Are the Biggest War Criminals of the 21st Century Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 1:26 AM D.May Quote from RobertI always prefer to play to a chick who's intrinsically knowledgeable about life, than a shirtless, sweaty guy who'd dance to anything that has a beat. Q. Who pays D.May's wages? is it a) intrinsically knowledgeable 'chick'? or b) sweaty guy who dances to anything with a beat? ha, I'd rather deliver the post to intrinsically knowledgeable 'chick's too, but theres only fat sweaty accountants here. oh well. p.s. any intrinsically knowledgeable 'chick's with a large transmat collection and ticket stubs for d.mays last gigs, drop me a line, I'd like to buy you dinner. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Matthew Dear and STFU
i was just pointing out that Ghostly doesn't have some magical super-expensive pr company. as for the debate as to 'why matt dear?', i wanna believe derricks notion that its because its that good. I certainly think its that good. but obviously that's a hard pill to swallow. As is the whole racism suspicions. My best guess is that ther's some new assistant editor (or even intern) at rolling stone who just happens to have some good taste in music. You'd be amazed how arbitrary a lot of magazine selections are. Sure- picking the cover of RS has issues of popularity and mass cultural appeal...but when it comes to the tiny electronic reviews secion of a iant magazine that comes out every week, i can pretty much garauntee that there were no meets. jus oneperson who got handed their little corner of one page and ran with it. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Phonopsia wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: (313) Matthew Dear and STFU Point of fact... Matthew's album was worked by Backspin Media. The same folks who do all of the Compost stuff, as well as Vikter Duplaix, Louie Vega and folks like that. I'll be honest, I'm not sure why the Matt Dear album has gotten picked-up with such a fury. Except maybe to prepose that he is actually a new young artists and its just that time. The obvious difference to me (if we're not looking at color), is that Compost, Vega and Duplaix are house, downtempo or broken beat artists, and Matthew Dear would more easilly be grouped with the clicky stuff, so I think that drawing a comparison between them because Backspin Media does the press is not terribly informative. Press companies will cover a fairly wide range of acts so I'm not persuaded that this has any significance to the discussion at hand. Presumably you'd mention those other labels because of the accolades they get as well? If it's not clear why Ghostly is receiving more attention from the US journalists, I would think that feeds Tom's arguments more than anything else. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you can't hear any soul in matthew dear, you need to seriously check what it is you like about music. It is because he is not hu-man ;-)
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Wow- that's a really good point. On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, David Powers wrote: Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
I was having the same thought, which is that ghostly is being covered as if they were an indie rock band/label. they kinda have that aura around them anyways... From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:19:39 - To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) UK Dance Releases
Do any 313 (UK) list members know the web-address for that site that lists all the new, weekly dance releases. I'd appreciate any help ;) Apologies to non-UK list members !! Chris.
RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno
I wasn't just referring to black music, I was referring to all electronic music - in the UK press at least, the artists that are repeatedly feted are usually purveyors of a diluted and compromised version of what we are all listening to - these artists are usually white like Fatboy Slim, Basement Jaxx, Chemical Brothers etc, History repeats itself. -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:42 PM To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno I did say 'tend' to. Anyway, you know I don't think as much of Amp Fiddler as you do, T! True. Don't know why I even bothered to make that point, other than that I'm struggling to maintain my perception that the only kind of black music that sells is of the thug/bling/begging* variety, and that it tends to be compromised/diluted, as you say. Pop music seems to be spreading its wings, as much as it's difficult for me to say that. I still think the music industry is f*cked, and racist, but it's hard to maintain the (forgive me) black and whiteness of my notions about it. *'begging music' is a term my friend Jason coined AFAIK, to identify the overtly desperate baby-please-take-me-back RB that dominated in the mid-'90s, which I find particularly irritating - as though it were the only sort of soul that could sell at the time. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) UK Dance Releases
Do any 313 (UK) list members know the web-address for that site that lists all the new, weekly dance releases. I'd appreciate any help ;) not entirely sure what you mean Chris, but something like this? http://www.juno.co.uk/ alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) DEDBEAT (UK) 23-25 APRIL line up announced!
BEAT RANKS KRS 1 - live GWEN MCCRAE - live MF DOOM - live HORACE ANDY - live PERCEE P - live EDAN - live ATMOSPHERE - live MR DIBBS - dj AMP FIDDLER - live ASPECTS - live DEF TEX - live THE METEORITES - live BUDDY PEACE ZILLA - dj BIG DADA records feat: TY - live INFINITE LIVEZ - live LOTEK HI-FI - live LEX records feat: PRINCE POETRY - live SAGE FRANCIS - live DANGER MOUSE - dj TES - live EH? - live design showcase PULSE RANKS THEO PARRISH THE 3 CHAIRS - live ECTOMORPH - live DREXCIYAN DJ STINGRAY - dj LFO (tbc) - live PLAID - live LUKE VIBERT - live SI BEGG - live GHOSTLY INTERNATIONAL records feat: MATTHEW DEAR - live DABRYE - live CLONE records feat: DETROIT IN EFFECT - live DEXTER - live ALDEN TYRELL - live SERGE - dj AI records feat: CLARO INTELLECTO - live YELLOTONE - live FZV - live SLUMP RANKS THE DUB CULTURE SOUNDSYSTEM feat: DON LETTS DAN DONNAVON - dj TIGERBEAT records feat: KID 606 - live KNIFE HAND CHOP - live COM A - live BREAKIN' BREAD feat: KEB DARGE - dj GERALD JAZZMAN - dj MR THING YUNGUN - dj DPF - live ROB LIFE, SKEG TUFF CUT - dj FAITH FX HUMAN BEATBOX - live Breaking from: Second 2 None, Children Of The Monkey Basket, Newcaslte City Breakers, and Force 10. WANG feat: KEITH TENNISWOOD - dj OCTAGON MAN - dj POSTHUMAN ARDISSON - live JULIAN 'FAIRSHARE' UNITY - live NATH LU - dj PLUS Multistyle support from our long serving consultants Mat Carter and DJ Prone # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Love Saves the Day
Interesting article about the Mancuso's Loft parties. http://www.gsmag.net/David_Mancuso/David_Mancuso.htm ...beats arguing about stuff eh? robin...
Re: (313) Love Saves the Day
Interesting article about the Mancuso's Loft parties. ...beats arguing about stuff eh? I think he uses the wrong colour balloons at these parties. I mean, its a disgrace. ; ) alex (ta for the link btw) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
- I really noticed this as well. they're battering this album - arent they? - I was really surprised at first, but like Robert says, he's the next - portishead kind of thing for all the lawyers etc! not that there is - anything wrong with that at all. - yeah, but it caught me by surprise to see they were spending - s much - money on it. I reckon its good though, they're really - pushing a detroit - artist that they feel has a chance to appeal to quite a few people. - weird that he's not getting pushed in the US - maybe the - record co. who - licensed it aren't as confident? they'll probs push it when it's a hit over here. just a thought, i mean why spend the cash all over the world on promotion when the US follows what the UK does anyway. that's a joke btw before the lsit explodes :) robin...
RE: (313) Love Saves the Day
I went to his last one at 'the light bar' in november and I got to say...it was damn good... nice friendly crowd...wiked sound system...lots of deep deep house...it all got abit too discoey towards the end but a great night met a guy called Gerald there aswell just add a finishing touch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 10:47 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Love Saves the Day Interesting article about the Mancuso's Loft parties. ...beats arguing about stuff eh? I think he uses the wrong colour balloons at these parties. I mean, its a disgrace. ; ) alex (ta for the link btw) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Love Saves the Day
I was thinking of going to the next Loft Party in a couple of weeks, but £20 is a lot of money even with food! -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Love Saves the Day I went to his last one at 'the light bar' in november and I got to say...it was damn good... nice friendly crowd...wiked sound system...lots of deep deep house...it all got abit too discoey towards the end but a great night met a guy called Gerald there aswell just add a finishing touch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 10:47 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Love Saves the Day Interesting article about the Mancuso's Loft parties. ...beats arguing about stuff eh? I think he uses the wrong colour balloons at these parties. I mean, its a disgrace. ; ) alex (ta for the link btw) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Love Saves the Day
I went to his last one at 'the light bar' in november and I got to say...it was damn good... nice friendly crowd...wiked sound system...lots of deep deep house...it all got abit too discoey towards the end but a great night met a guy called Gerald there aswell just add a finishing touch. I'd love to check one out. just for the experience. I believe there's one in London at the end of Feb - anyone know if thats right? also, anyone know if it's an invite only job? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Juno
Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? Chris.
RE: (313) Juno
Usually pretty quick - I've never had a problem, but I don't use them that much. RB -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 10:58 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juno Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? Chris. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) Love Saves the Day
It's sort of invite only - I think it is quite easy to wangle one -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Love Saves the Day I went to his last one at 'the light bar' in november and I got to say...it was damn good... nice friendly crowd...wiked sound system...lots of deep deep house...it all got abit too discoey towards the end but a great night met a guy called Gerald there aswell just add a finishing touch. I'd love to check one out. just for the experience. I believe there's one in London at the end of Feb - anyone know if thats right? also, anyone know if it's an invite only job? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Juno
used to use em quite a lot...very efficient. robin... - -Original Message- - From: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - org] On Behalf Of Chris Anglesey - Sent: 04 February 2004 10:58 - To: 313@hyperreal.org - Subject: (313) Juno - - - - - Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno - website. Does - anyone know what they are like - to order from ? - - Chris. -
RE: (313) Love Saves the Day
It is quite expensivebut it is very nice... easy partying for older people (trying not to put you off) David m does play some serious s**t tho I thought it was well worth the money. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 11:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Love Saves the Day It's sort of invite only - I think it is quite easy to wangle one -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Love Saves the Day I went to his last one at 'the light bar' in november and I got to say...it was damn good... nice friendly crowd...wiked sound system...lots of deep deep house...it all got abit too discoey towards the end but a great night met a guy called Gerald there aswell just add a finishing touch. I'd love to check one out. just for the experience. I believe there's one in London at the end of Feb - anyone know if thats right? also, anyone know if it's an invite only job? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Juno
I use them alot Chris it is delivered within 2 days, very good. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 10:58 To: 'Chris Anglesey'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Juno Usually pretty quick - I've never had a problem, but I don't use them that much. RB -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 10:58 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juno Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? Chris. *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
RE: (313) Juno
very professional ab -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:28 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juno Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? Chris. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/04
Re: (313) Juno
Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? I use them a couple of times a month on average - absolutely faultless service. Definitely the fastest mailorder record store in the UK, I've often ordered records at 4pm which have still arrived the next morning. Their postage rates have increased a bit recently but their record prices are generally pretty good (and often a bit cheaper than other places)... Tom
(313) More reading/death of techno
kind of on topic and follows on from the death of techno stuff we were yacking about yesterday http://www.furious.com/perfect/twotalesfromtherave.html robin...
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
You guys are making me wish that I kept touring with Amp! Pias is in charge of Amp's record and they are a Europe based label. I bet you all the Europe hype will spill over to the states, at least on a strong underground level (which it has already). Is the mainstream ready for something this funky and fresh in the states? Amp has been at this sh*t forever and all the hype he gets is well deserved. anywho.here is a link to a video of Amp at bbc. thats me on guitar.. http://www.pias.com/videos/ampbbc.wmv p.s. I like that Dog Days track. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:20:49 + It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Hey Tristan. I really noticed this as well. they're battering this album arent they? I was really surprised at first, but like Robert says, he's the next portishead kind of thing for all the lawyers etc! not that there is anything wrong with that at all. yeah, but it caught me by surprise to see they were spending s much money on it. I reckon its good though, they're really pushing a detroit artist that they feel has a chance to appeal to quite a few people. weird that he's not getting pushed in the US - maybe the record co. who licensed it aren't as confident? anyway, yeah, just wanted to say I really noticed it too. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring _ There are now three new levels of MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Learn more. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=hotmail/es2ST=1
(313) Some of my Mixes on my private ftp...
If anyone's interrested in some techno, then visit my ftp: ftp://jlf.pimpdomain.com/Thursdaytracks/ but: my computer isn't online all the time. I shut it down in the night (10/11 o'clock p.m. (GMT + 1 hour)) Thursdaytracks vol. 2: (I didnt do it exactly for the moment. The music is the thing that counts...) pounding groove - loop redhead - icelandic ep alexander kowalski - progress Bando - (on superbra) Abe Duke - The last night changed it all seecret cinema 02 Abe Duke - Abe Duke rec. 2 allan baratt - eukatech danilo vigorito - orbeat ignition technician - on the run alexander kowalski - theory 17 adam jay - the wrath (primevil) dj shufflemaster - theory 17 dj shufflemaster - phont stoned baby - primevil technasia - Start it up geatano parisio - advanced techno research vol 1 marco carola - effective on open system (zenith) adrenogroov percy x rmx - marco carola - code red 9 gaetano parisio - ritmatica ep justin berkovi - jeopardy part1 jeff mills - the final big mix monika kruse @ voodoamt terminal m samuel l session - session double album rino cerrone - terminal m deetron - los muchachos Gaetano e Fabio: 01 ss ch 4 a side 2001 02 appendix d Danilo vigorito b1 2002 03 appendix c marco carola a side 2002 04 appendix e adam beyer henrik b a side 2003 05 southsoul the preface d1 2000 06 southsoul the preface b2 2000 07 southsoul the preface c1 2000 08 southsoul the preface b1 2000 09 ss ch 6 a 2002 10 appendix b Davide squillace b side 2001 11 ch 2 b2 2001 12 ch 1 a side 2001 13 ch 2 a2 2001 14 ch 1 b side 2001 15 ch 2 a1 2001 16 southsoul the preface c2 2000 17 ch2 b1 2001 18 clr retry 03 - analogon EP (remixes) - Gaetano Parisio remix 2 2001 19 Conform 17 - suprema - a side 2002 20 conform 19 - ritmatica - a1 2002 21 Advanced Techno Research 11/20 b side 2003 22 conform 20 - logica - Danilo vigorito Gaetano Parisio b2 2003 23 conform 20 - logica - Danilo vigorito Gaetano Parisio c2 2003 Enjoy! Yours, Fabian - John L.F.. -- GMX ProMail (250 MB Mailbox, 50 FreeSMS, Virenschutz, 2,99 EUR/Monat...) jetzt 3 Monate GRATIS + 3x DER SPIEGEL +++ http://www.gmx.net/derspiegel +++
(313) DUST 1st Birthday Party. We are 1, We are Back
DUST 1st Birthday Party. We are 1, We are Back ANDREW WEATHERALL Pledging his Support Talent Borrows, Genius Steals, Sh1theads Copy. A fine first year for the Dust: corporate free clubbing organisation. The uptown city trance has been blown away, thanks to Dust¹s firm techno stance and help from its underground brothers and sisters. Although funky house is popping up in the chain bars rather disturbingly. They will be dealt with. To celebrate our birthday, Dust are bringing the Sheffield public a present they well and truly deserve (Dust don¹t receive, we just give), Mr Andrew Weatherall. A pioneering legend, The Don, who has truly earned the kudos history has bestowed on him and it¹s a pleasure for us to bring him to you and needless to say he will be crossing genres like a chicken crosses a road. A new venue has been secured for the occasion, the legendary Earl of Arundel Surrey of Queens Road, Sheffield for which the Dust crew will be taking over unmercifully. A Dust Pub if you will. You would be a fool to miss it; only 250 tickets will be made available, so get in there now to avoid disappointment. Dust¹s anti-corporate stance is touching a nerve within the cities underground and along with others is going from strength to strength Andrew will be supported by the all powerful Dust residents, Aitcho, Carl Taylor, Bionika and Ian Orto who will be plugging into the grid to make electronic living very real. Check us out http://www.dustclub.com *** Corporate Free [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday 6th March Earl of Arundel Surrey DUST 1st Birthday Party, We are 1, We are Back. Large Dust Social Room Andy Weatherall + Dust Residents Aitcho/Bionika/Carl Taylor/Ian Orto Tax: £7 - Ticket Only Event Tickets available from: The Store and Low Life, Buy on Line Here: http://www.dustclub.com/nextevent.html Only 250 tickets available. Hurry Children, Hurry. Timefix: 9 - till very late indeed. Earl of Arundel Surrey, 528 Queens Road, Sheffield. *** Dresscode: No jugglers, No Clowns, No Face paint, No Moustaches, No percussionists! Shirter Techno People, No Dad House or Son's of Pikey There will be a tout outside early doors but he only has 20 tickets and will be charging a tenner each and they will go as soon as. Tickets contacts; available from 7/02/04:: Low Life = 18 Hickmott Rd, Hunters Bar, Sheffield, S11 8QF Tel: +44 (0)114 2669433 http://lowlife.gemm.com/ Store Records = Unit 4, Aberdeen Court, 95-97 Division Street, Sheffield, S14 GE Tel: +44 (0)114 2784 933 https://www.storerecords.net/o/ Or send a cheque to: Dust Club c/o, Dust Science Recordings Ltd, PO BOX 3542, Sheffield, S8 9WU. Make cheques payable to Dust Science Ltd and add £1 postage and packaging. Final date for cheques in 1/03/04. No Paying Guest List. - Club - http://www.dustclub.com Community - http://www.littledetroit.net Label http://www.dustscience.net -
Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. I was having the same thought, which is that ghostly is being covered as if they were an indie rock band/label. they kinda have that aura around them anyways... I completely agree with that - Ghostly artists and record reviews don't look out of place in magazines like Spin, whereas if the same magazine covers someone like Amp Fiddler or say any of the usual Detroit techno/house suspects I'm compelled to think: Well looks like they dug up the one music journo they have on staff that knows something about dance music or has set foot in a dance club to do an article on __ just so they can appear hip to the kids who buy White Strips, the Rapture, Death Cab for Cutie, AND the new Basement Jaxx. That being said, the nice thing about Ghostly is - they might just get more people into techno. A very weak might. MEK
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
just to pile on here for a sec (not that this topic really *needs* another post), but Dave makes a good point... There was a Ghostly night here in San Francisco a year or two back that was filled with indie kids that one normally only sees not dancing with their arms crossed at obscure rock shows. (Further, my conversations with folks at the bar uncovered the fact that at least half the crowd knew Ghostly from their college days in Ann Arbor.) Interestingly, they did not break out Matt Dear that night, but headlined with a Dabrye hip-hop set, which seemed a good choice for the not-dancing SF indie crowd. In contrast, an Amp Fiddler show would likely draw a more typical house and hip-hop crowd, like Ayro + Bugz a couple months back. So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?! 0d -Original Message- From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:20 PM To: Phonopsia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Interesting post. Just to put this in perspective, here in Chicago I've never ever seen an Amp Fiddler record. In contrast, at Gramaphone they get multiple copies of all the Ghostly stuff and it does seem to be selling pretty well... However I wasn't really aware that Matthew Dear was being so hyped, I really just checked out the records because they were in the store, had no idea he got written up in Rolling Stone or is supposed to be some next big thing. I haven't really heard mention of Amp Fiddler outside the 313 list. I did turn a couple of my hiphop-head friends on to Amp Fiddler however. The thing is, in the US, the Urban/RB style is really very corporate and Amp Fiddler probably would have a harder time going over here the way he might be able to in the UK. The market for more indy urban sounds is rather small, like a minority of people that might dig on underground hiphop. Amp Fiddler would need to get played by Clear Channel and the like to have a chance in the US urban market. Ghostly International, on the other hand, probably will go over with people that are used to looking a little more out of the mainstream for their records, which means techno fans but maybe also a bit of indie-rock type crossover. That is how it appears to may but maybe somebody has a different take on it??? ~Dave -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:01:27 - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Derrick May
I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ??
Re: (313) Kraftwerk remixes coming
Damn - this email was almost trashed because it was wedged between so much jibber jabber Mr. T Tom Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org lworld.com cc: Subject: (313) Kraftwerk remixes coming 02/03/04 04:07 PM Please respond to Tom Magic Feet From a circular I just recieved from EMI's dance department: Next up will be a rather special double pack - remixes of Aerodynamik by Kraftwerk! The Kling Klang boys themselves have revised the track, Alex Gopher and Etienne De Crecy have collaborated on an acid assault while Francois K delivers a deep musical tech excursion.
RE: (313) Derrick May
I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ??
RE: (313) Derrick May
That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ***
AW: (313) Derrick May
I think thoughts shared via internet sound harsher than discussing it with a smile in your face -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2004 17:41 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ??
RE: (313) Kraftwerk remixes coming
yes I kept this one :) FK one will be good as always..loved his Expo 2000 one! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:41 To: Tom Magic Feet Cc: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk remixes coming Damn - this email was almost trashed because it was wedged between so much jibber jabber Mr. T Tom Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org lworld.com cc: Subject: (313) Kraftwerk remixes coming 02/03/04 04:07 PM Please respond to Tom Magic Feet From a circular I just recieved from EMI's dance department: Next up will be a rather special double pack - remixes of Aerodynamik by Kraftwerk! The Kling Klang boys themselves have revised the track, Alex Gopher and Etienne De Crecy have collaborated on an acid assault while Francois K delivers a deep musical tech excursion.
RE: (313) Derrick May
yep that is so true..how many times have we all been misquoted as no one reads an email like you do when you write it. -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: AW: (313) Derrick May I think thoughts shared via internet sound harsher than discussing it with a smile in your face -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2004 17:41 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ??
Re: (313) Derrick May
Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
RE: (313) Derrick May
yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
RE: (313) Derrick May
The argument between Derek and Thomas was just an argument, not a flame war - it was informative and civil, so I don't understand why people were getting het up about it - I was happy to see it continue. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Derrick May
I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
RE: (313) Derrick May
ha ha love it !!! well if a discussion lasts as long as this one has for DM then crickey I would be falling of me seat! ha ha ha thanks Brendan you've made me smile :) -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:54 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded
RE: (313) Derrick May
He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
Re: (313) Derrick May
B, Are we on for some 313 vs LD up north in May... Martin 4/2/04 4:54 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
(313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
LOL..quality! -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:16 To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
Hehae haeahe eh ae AE AEHAEAHea :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 1:21 AM To: Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) LOL..quality! -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:16 To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
He also can't hold his ale and has six toes on his left foot -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:17 PM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 02/03/04 04:28 PMSubject: RE: (313) Derrick May Please respond to rp *wink* :) Anyone bored of this derrick may topic yet...apart from Derrick May ?? ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
I can hold me ale!! in me left foot :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:38 To: Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) He also can't hold his ale and has six toes on his left foot -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:17 PM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
lol Like a backwards Jeremy Beadle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 5:41 To: Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) I can hold me ale!! in me left foot :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:38 To: Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) He also can't hold his ale and has six toes on his left foot -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:17 PM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of people, and that applies to forums and mailing lists everywhere, not just 313. In fact 313 is nothing like as bad as some other forums/lists I can think of, where anyone who opens their mouth is instantly subjected to a barrage of personal abuse. Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I wish Derrick would just chime in for once and shut them all up - I've seen Juan Atkins do it. I suppose he can't be bothered but just for the sake of this damn list. Maybe they all wish the 313list would go away. MEK Ronny Pries
RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May)
ha ha ha!!! ncie one :) -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) lol Like a backwards Jeremy Beadle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 5:41 To: Robert Taylor; Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) I can hold me ale!! in me left foot :) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 17:38 To: Brendan Nelson; Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) He also can't hold his ale and has six toes on his left foot -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:17 PM To: Ryan Snowden; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Kube72 (was RE: (313) Derrick May) The main things that bug me about Kube72 are: 1) He doesn't pay any attention to up-and-coming talent and keeps banging on about how techno is dead when it obviously isn't 2) He's turned his back on his home town and plays practically anywhere *but* in the place that made him what he is today 3) He is a baby eater *tut tut* -Original Message- From: Ryan Snowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 17:05 To: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May He IS shifty, isn't he... -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2004 12:55 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I was about to mention that shifty Kube72 character actually! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 16:54 To: Martin; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May yeah that Carl Taylor right :))) -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 04/02/2004 16:46 To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); 'Brendan Nelson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Derrick May Lets be honest tho - it happens every 3 months now - all you have to do is change the DJ's name - same stuff again and again... 4/2/04 4:44 PM Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's because people are much more inclined to spit their venom from the relative safety of their PC location. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 February 2004 4:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Derrick May I think that would be a bit drastic! The 313 list isn't *all* vitriol and player-hating after all... :) It's a funny thing about the internet that it seems to bring out some serious bitterness and bile in a lot of
RE: (313) Derrick May
-- Original Message -- From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The argument between Derek and Thomas was just an argument, not a flame war - it was informative and civil, so I don't understand why people were getting het up about it - I was happy to see it continue. there were a couple nice insults in there as well from both sides, but they were for added colour only ; ) i still had a few more points to make, but the general lack of interest took most of the hot air out of me : ) tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
-- Original Message -- From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?! where do you think people get their tastes from? come on, why else would a rock crowd not want to hear amp fiddler? because theyve been trained to want a certain thing. real fans of music don't draw lines like that. people who buy into marketing do. tom andythepooh.com
RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: I wasn't just referring to black music, I was referring to all electronic music - in the UK press at least, the artists that are repeatedly feted are usually purveyors of a diluted and compromised version of what we are all listening to - these artists are usually white like Fatboy Slim, Basement Jaxx, Chemical Brothers etc, History repeats itself. You answered your own chrage. The music is 'diluted and comprimised'. Maybe that's why its feted more than the underground artists. Also- since we're talking about the UK, maybe they just favor UK artists over American artists. Find me a black UK artists who produces the level of high-quality mainstream big-beat rock'n'rave music of Fat Boy or the Chems, then we can start considering racism as a factor. -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:42 PM To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno I did say 'tend' to. Anyway, you know I don't think as much of Amp Fiddler as you do, T! True. Don't know why I even bothered to make that point, other than that I'm struggling to maintain my perception that the only kind of black music that sells is of the thug/bling/begging* variety, and that it tends to be compromised/diluted, as you say. Pop music seems to be spreading its wings, as much as it's difficult for me to say that. I still think the music industry is f*cked, and racist, but it's hard to maintain the (forgive me) black and whiteness of my notions about it. *'begging music' is a term my friend Jason coined AFAIK, to identify the overtly desperate baby-please-take-me-back RB that dominated in the mid-'90s, which I find particularly irritating - as though it were the only sort of soul that could sell at the time. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) Juno
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:57:43 -, Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? Been orderin from them for over three years now. Highly recommended. If you are stateside, I suggest payin the extra 5 pounds for FedEx, you'll get stuff in 2-3 days as oppossed to 1 1/2 weeks. -- -DJ Entropy (bhpc, elemental compounds, planet muzik, ingrooves, boston) VOTE FOR ME http://www.djmixed.com/djmixed/contests/surveys.cfm?survey_ID=8 http://www.djentropy.com http://www.djentropy.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php At least when right-wingers rant, there's a point. - Ann Coulter There's no anecdote for irony, you say. - Something Corporate !TENGO GUSTO DEL DRUM Y BASS!
Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno
Find me a black UK artists who produces the level of high-quality mainstream big-beat rock'n'rave music of Fat Boy or the Chems, then we can start considering racism as a factor. Most black people have more fcuking sense ;) -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:42 PM To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno I did say 'tend' to. Anyway, you know I don't think as much of Amp Fiddler as you do, T! True. Don't know why I even bothered to make that point, other than that I'm struggling to maintain my perception that the only kind of black music that sells is of the thug/bling/begging* variety, and that it tends to be compromised/diluted, as you say. Pop music seems to be spreading its wings, as much as it's difficult for me to say that. I still think the music industry is f*cked, and racist, but it's hard to maintain the (forgive me) black and whiteness of my notions about it. *'begging music' is a term my friend Jason coined AFAIK, to identify the overtly desperate baby-please-take-me-back RB that dominated in the mid-'90s, which I find particularly irritating - as though it were the only sort of soul that could sell at the time. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno
Is this because no black artist would want to make that kind of music or is it because it is more lucrative to market white faces to a mostly white audience? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:18 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: Phonopsia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno Find me a black UK artists who produces the level of high-quality mainstream big-beat rock'n'rave music of Fat Boy or the Chems, then we can start considering racism as a factor. -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:42 PM To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:24 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno I did say 'tend' to. Anyway, you know I don't think as much of Amp Fiddler as you do, T! True. Don't know why I even bothered to make that point, other than that I'm struggling to maintain my perception that the only kind of black music that sells is of the thug/bling/begging* variety, and that it tends to be compromised/diluted, as you say. Pop music seems to be spreading its wings, as much as it's difficult for me to say that. I still think the music industry is f*cked, and racist, but it's hard to maintain the (forgive me) black and whiteness of my notions about it. *'begging music' is a term my friend Jason coined AFAIK, to identify the overtly desperate baby-please-take-me-back RB that dominated in the mid-'90s, which I find particularly irritating - as though it were the only sort of soul that could sell at the time. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Marketing and music taste
dunno-- probably because they'd feel like idiots standing around with their arms crossed and a sullen/disaffected look on their mugs while Amp rocked it? but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] where do you think people get their tastes from? come on, why else would a rock crowd not want to hear amp fiddler? because theyve been trained to want a certain thing. real fans of music don't draw lines like that. people who buy into marketing do. From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?!
RE: (313) Marketing and music taste
but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. They might like it *if* they hear it - it takes the proper marketing to get them to want to pick it up, not put it back down, bring it to the register and buy it. The person has to be excited to buy it - not many people buy CDs anymore thinking yeah, I don't know, it might be ok if buy it then marketing has done the job and only has minor influence from there on... anyone have 98¢? - I've only got a dollar MEK Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org er.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) Marketing and music taste 02/04/04 12:56 PM dunno-- probably because they'd feel like idiots standing around with their arms crossed and a sullen/disaffected look on their mugs while Amp rocked it? but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] where do you think people get their tastes from? come on, why else would a rock crowd not want to hear amp fiddler? because theyve been trained to want a certain thing. real fans of music don't draw lines like that. people who buy into marketing do. From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, maybe it's not even just about *marketing*, but actually about people's taste in music?!
(313) cheapest flight from Midwest to UK
Anyone have a good inside track on which airlines offer the best flights - Minneapolis to Glasgow or London? looking for the very last days of July and staying for a couple of weeks possibly MEK
RE: (313) Marketing and music taste
-- Original Message -- From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] dunno-- probably because they'd feel like idiots standing around with their arms crossed and a sullen/disaffected look on their mugs while Amp rocked it? but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. theres nothing anyone can do to sell any soul music to rock people right now. the marketing has been done to death already. it tells you that if you like marilyn manson you dress in black and go to goth clubs. or if you like good charlotte you dress like a punk and go to the warped tour. or if you like jay z you wear baggy pants and gold jewelry. or if you like indie rock you stand around with your arms crossed while people play soul music. people who really have open minds towards music get down to whatever sounds good, whether its techno house soul hiphop rock punk country reggae whatever. im the idiot who plays techno and house records while wearing a t- shirt for the violent femmes. i have no biases: good music is good music. if more people worked like that, there wouldnt be crossover hits anymore. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Marketing and music taste
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. They might like it *if* they hear it - it takes the proper marketing to get them to want to pick it up, not put it back down, bring it to the register and buy it. The person has to be excited to buy it - not many people buy CDs anymore thinking yeah, I don't know, it might be ok exactly. and if you think people in the techno community arent victims of specialty marketing, youre wrong. amongst most music heads that ive talked to, amp fiddler is the man. anyone who has given the guy's record a listen has been way into it. he writes good songs, his production is clean and funky, his personal music history is very obvious. his set at movement last year was off the chain, he totally killed it. despite the good timeslot (9:00 or so iirc. it was definitely very dark and close to the last set) at the underground stage the number of folks listening was very very small, possibly the smallest crowd i witnessed the whole weekend. perhaps if more people had been there more people would be believers in the quality of the man and his music. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Marketing and music taste
There's actualy been a quite a few parties in big cities that mix up everything from motown to my bloody valentine to felix. i know there's one in detroit called-Bang and one here in La that I'vebeen to once or twice (don't know the name). The crowd is mostly young 'indie'-leaning kids. And they all dance no matter what's playing. So I hope that a lot of our 'scene' prejudice are slowly deteriorating. Indie kids dancing to techno and sly stone in one night. Hip-hop kids freaking to some serious next level music (unfortunately still behind some wack MCs, but...) One the one hand, I'm jealous that these kids have the open mind to everything musically AND the inclination to dance (when I discovered dance music, I had to make a serious choice between my new raving interest and my old indie friends- it sucked). But, at the same time I feel a bit dsorry for them that their generations music/fashion is entirely based on past movements. There's nothing for these kids that can be all encompassing and revolutionary and fresh and new, like dance music was for so many of us. It must suck to feel like everything cool in your youth is actualy a hand-me-down. Oh- and to change topic a little bit, I just listened to AMp Fiddler album for the first time this morning (yeah- I've been talking without hearing- flame away), but my assumptions were absolutely correct about the record. Its basically smooth jazz. OK- maybe that's harsh, but its absolutely 100% indebted to 70's funk and soul music. There's not even an attempt to turn these songs out into something new. Not to say I dont like it. It will definately hold a certain place in my catalog (dinner party music), but there is absolutely nothing that's going to make me go back and want to hear it again in order to explore things i might have missed (the matt dear album had me going back for weeks on end as it finally grew and bloosomed in my brain). I was going to point out that perhaps that is the deciding factor between dear getting more press than Amp- but that topic has been beat to death. So now I have a new question- when looking for music, do you seek out stuff that is comforting and familier- or do you seek out stuff that maybe takes 4-5 listens to get your head around? On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Dave Cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] dunno-- probably because they'd feel like idiots standing around with their arms crossed and a sullen/disaffected look on their mugs while Amp rocked it? but seriously, i can't believe that the only reason someone might not like Amp Fiddler is because they haven't been marketed to properly. theres nothing anyone can do to sell any soul music to rock people right now. the marketing has been done to death already. it tells you that if you like marilyn manson you dress in black and go to goth clubs. or if you like good charlotte you dress like a punk and go to the warped tour. or if you like jay z you wear baggy pants and gold jewelry. or if you like indie rock you stand around with your arms crossed while people play soul music. people who really have open minds towards music get down to whatever sounds good, whether its techno house soul hiphop rock punk country reggae whatever. im the idiot who plays techno and house records while wearing a t- shirt for the violent femmes. i have no biases: good music is good music. if more people worked like that, there wouldnt be crossover hits anymore. tom andythepooh.com
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I once had a Fugazi shirt. It just dawned on me that I would've been rocking Bad Brains if it hadn't been for the racists at Spin. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Marketing and music taste im the idiot who plays techno and house records while wearing a t- shirt for the violent femmes. i have no biases: good music is good music. if more people worked like that, there wouldnt be crossover hits anymore. tom
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] One the one hand, I'm jealous that these kids have the open mind to everything musically AND the inclination to dance more open music policy nights can only be a good thing. i seriously doubt it will ever become a dominating force in music simply because theres no way to market it thus it will never have the organization or money that more marketable music genres will have. especially in america where trends travel slowly because of the large distances between cities its even harder to maintain something like that with just the support of the people. (when I discovered dance music, I had to make a serious choice between my new raving interest and my old indie friends- it sucked). when i discovered dance music (96, late i know but im still a youngish 24 ;) i would go out to the jungle weekly after i hit basement style punk shows. a weekend would maybe have a ska/reggae show sandwiched inbetween a couple club nights or raves. i only had a couple accomplices but we loved it all. it was very good. But, at the same time I feel a bit dsorry for them that their generations music/fashion is entirely based on past movements. There's nothing for these kids that can be all encompassing and revolutionary and fresh and new, like dance music was for so many of us. It must suck to feel like everything cool in your youth is actualy a hand-me-down. everything is part of a continuum, you pretty much cant go outside it with no influence from something thats happened before. Oh- and to change topic a little bit, I just listened to AMp Fiddler album for the first time this morning (yeah- I've been talking without hearing- flame away), but my assumptions were absolutely correct about the record. Its basically smooth jazz. OK- maybe that's harsh, but its absolutely 100% indebted to 70's funk and soul music. There's not even an attempt to turn these songs out into something new. Not to say I dont like it. It will definately hold a certain place in my catalog (dinner party music), but there is absolutely nothing that's going to make me go back and want to hear it again in order to explore things i might have missed (the matt dear album had me going back for weeks on end as it finally grew and bloosomed in my brain). I was going to point out that perhaps that is the deciding factor between dear getting more press than Amp- but that topic has been beat to death. So now I have a new question- when looking for music, do you seek out stuff that is comforting and familier- or do you seek out stuff that maybe takes 4-5 listens to get your head around? for me its one simple factor: is the music good? i get as excited for brian eno's stuff as i do for theo parrish's stuff or tunes by the misfits. to be entirely truthful, these days ive been buying lots and lots of old tunes because they had more and better vibes, no matter what the genre. the lack of vibes in current stuff could also be viewed as a symptom of that specific marketing style that has been the rage for the past 30 years. anyway, im not someone who will buy something just because its new. i just want quality, no matter when it was made, who made it, etc. for example, IDM and avant garde type musics are based largely on new sounds or ideas. while im certainly down with some of that stuff, i cant get way into it because the focus isnt on quality. i would say that i judge quality in a mostly consistant manner: i judge the ideas/emotions that are trying to be put forward, and i judge how well theyre portrayed. for example, aphex twin has lots of good ideas, but only a few of them really knock it out of the park. on the flip, someone with no good ideas but good songwriting is more likely going to be of interest to me. a good song or melody will trump experimentation for me every day, but i prefer my music to have some of both. tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: Andy Kellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I once had a Fugazi shirt. It just dawned on me that I would've been rocking Bad Brains if it hadn't been for the racists at Spin. you probably should have been rocking both : P though on the strength of catalogue i guess fugazi probably is the better overall but BB had more better highlights. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler [Marketing and music taste]
Oh- and to change topic a little bit, I just listened to AMp Fiddler album for the first time this morning (yeah- I've been talking without hearing- flame away), but my assumptions were absolutely correct about the record. Its basically smooth jazz. OK- maybe that's harsh, but its absolutely 100% indebted to 70's funk and soul music. There's not even an attempt to turn these songs out into something new. Not to say I dont like it. It will definately hold a certain place in my catalog (dinner party music), but there is absolutely nothing that's going to make me go back and want to hear it again in order to explore things i might have missed (the matt dear album had me going back for weeks on end as it finally grew and bloosomed in my brain). My thoughts exactly...it's good stuff for sure, but not something that's got me all excited like some folks seem to be. Each to their own I guess
Re: (313) Juno
- Original Message - From: Tom Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: (313) Juno Thanks a lot to all those who gave me the info on the Juno website. Does anyone know what they are like to order from ? I use them a couple of times a month on average - absolutely faultless service. Definitely the fastest mailorder record store in the UK, I've often ordered records at 4pm which have still arrived the next morning. Their postage rates have increased a bit recently but their record prices are generally pretty good (and often a bit cheaper than other places)... Just to offer a counter-POV, Piccadilly has always arrived as fast if not faster than Juno for me, while Juno is in London and Piccadilly is in Manchester. Also, Piccadilly caps their shipping fees at £7 for Parcel Force within the UK, so if you order in bulk, that can really save you. I have no beef whatsoever with Juno - they're fine, but I'd always trust Parcel Force over Royal Mail. They're faster and cheaper. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) OT Coachella festival
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-01/14.shtml Is anyone else as excited to see a reunite of the Pixies!? Kraftwerk and Radiohead! Wow. dns.
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: RE: (313) Marketing and music taste One the one hand, I'm jealous that these kids have the open mind to everything musically AND the inclination to dance (when I discovered dance music, I had to make a serious choice between my new raving interest and my old indie friends- it sucked). But, at the same time I feel a bit dsorry for them that their generations music/fashion is entirely based on past movements. There's nothing for these kids that can be all encompassing and revolutionary and fresh and new, like dance music was for so many of us. It must suck to feel like everything cool in your youth is actualy a hand-me-down. Like Tom said, it's totally a continuum. When I got into electronic music around '91, I was keenly aware how much I was missing and how much had already passed me by. The more I learn about the history of it, the more I recognize how much I've totally missed. I watched a video of UK 'Energy' raves from '89 the other night, and the music was utter cack, but the excitement and novelty of it all seemed so compelling. '89 wasn't long before I first heard my first tape of an L.A. rave, or before I discovered 'This is the New Beat', both of which really opened my eyes. Was it something new then though? So much immense stuff had already transpired. Think of all the Music Institute, Music Box and Warehouse stuff I totally missed, or go back further to disco, or early electro, or the birth of hip hop or whatever. The timeline is really fluid, but because the entry point is rarely at a *very* young age, it always seems like something new when we first experience it. As we learn more, we learn what we've missed, so I doubt todays youf think they've missed it all. Only if they start to explore it in any depth will they realise that it's been around for a while. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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No Moodymann? Sorry, I'm out. rt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT Coachella festival http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-01/14.shtml Is anyone else as excited to see a reunite of the Pixies!? Kraftwerk and Radiohead! Wow. dns.
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At 04:53 PM 2/4/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone else as excited to see a reunite of the Pixies!? Kraftwerk and Radiohead! Wow. Not as excited as I was for the lineup of the first Coachella. Atkins, May, Saunderson, Hawtin, Breakbeat Era, Underworld (shuddup i like em), etc. etc. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.dirty.org/~mkb Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not as excited as I was for the lineup of the first Coachella. Atkins, May, Saunderson, Yeah those guys are pretty exciting.
Re: (313) Amp Fiddler [Marketing and music taste]
- Original Message - From: Mark S. Krüx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) Amp Fiddler [Marketing and music taste] My thoughts exactly...it's good stuff for sure, but not something that's got me all excited like some folks seem to be. I agree it's not innovative really. I do think he brings his own sound out very well though, and I think it's remarkably solid straight through. For that matter, I don't think anything he's done has been terribly innovative. And I guess I wouldn't say anything I've bought in the last few years has sounded all that groundbreaking. At best most of it is just a further distillation/combination of existing sounds. But I don't really see that as a bad thing. For the record, it is definitely something that's grown on me with repeated listens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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plus- The Cure Wilco Stereolab Dizzee Rascal My Morning Jacket Flaming Lips !!! Yeah Yeah Yeahs LCD Soundsystem The Sleepy Jackson Air PJ HARVEY Sage Francis Death Cab For Cutie ELECTRIC 6 Sparta On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/04-01/14.shtml Is anyone else as excited to see a reunite of the Pixies!? Kraftwerk and Radiohead! Wow. dns.
(313) More new purchases and fuller reviews of last weeks stuff
From Boomkat (not in-hand yet): Rene Lowe + Paul St. Hilaire - Faith (late on this one) V/A - Superlongevity 3 (late on this one) Arne Weinberg - Cupola (from the clips I'd say this is probably my favorite Arne release to date. Nice work m8y!) Claro Intellecto - Peace Of Mind EP (late on this one) From Piccadilly: John Beltran : Candela / Starlight Memories - Kirk Degiorgio Remix - Ubiquity 12 (Wicked straight through. Starlight Memories features Stateless (no, not Woody Allen, sorry), and is one of the better of his newer organic releases that I've heard. The Kirk Degiorgio mix is some wicked broken techno with the Stateless vocal in tact. Excellent. Should be a no-brainer for Ubiquity fans) Russ Gabriel : The Crossing - Soul on Wax 12 (The a-side is big and latin in a Russ Gabriel kinda way - one of the more appealing straight-up house tracks he's done IMO. The b-side is a mad dub of it - properly dubby. Sounds very unusual in a latin/broken/dubbed way, but is rather minimal in a maybe-wish-it-did-more kinda way. Can't wait to get my mits on the new album - which I've only seen @ Rush Hour so far) Ennio Morricone : Remixes Volume 2 - Compost 3xLP (Playing right now. Seems to be mostly broken beat and house of the highest calibre. I think both these triple-packs are going to be hot items for a long time to come once people get over the 3x-pack sticker shock. Not a moment of filler on either one from what I can tell, with each remixer turning in efforts worthy of the task.) Nitzer Ebb : Murderous - Phil Kieran Mix / Control I'm Here - LFO Mix - Nova Mute 12 (Both sound nice. Still need to ingest.) Marco Passarani : I House You / Clair - Peacefrog 12 (Mad vocodered Jungle Bros. electro remake on the a-side. Ethereal techno on the flip with disco synth lines dominating. Both much better than I could count on from the audio clips.) Squarepusher : Ultravisitor - Sampler - Warp 12 (Whole thing is great, with A-1 and B standing out. Big melodies. First Squarepusher I've bought since his first one, so I may not be the best person to spout off about this one.) Stereolab : Margarine Eclipse - Duophonic 2xLtd LP (Yarr... eat my limited pressing of the new one! Sounds very electronic in some bits, yet overall not a huge departure from recent albums. Sounds lonely without Mary Hansen. :( Still need to properly ingest. Their albums always take a few listens for me.) $tinkworx : Los Gatos Lloros EP - Delsin 12 (more goodness from Stinki - The Putsch '79 remix in particular is some funky disco meets techno action that I'm totally drooling over. Keep 'em coming J.T!) Ultramarine : Carl Craig Remixes - Real Soon 12 (finally the repress...) And some further comments on these purchases from last week: Kai Alce : M-7 - Mahogani 12 (Totally seductive and minimal. Those moaning voices! I *really* like this although the face-valueness required a bit of an attitude readjustment. Can't wait to hear this loud. It's gonna DESTROY!!!) Brothomstates : Rktic / Matala Bobo - Arcola 12 (Another one that I vascilated on for a while before deciding that I really like it. The vocals on the B-side are very unexpected. I think the overuse of delay on this one made me suspect there wasn't as much to it as there is, but it does have it all there, and both tracks take a long time to develop into the big epicness they arrive at. Cool.) Chef : Extraball (The Remixes) - Grill 12 (The Kemit Sources remix is a bit stripped down for what it is, but still works well. Perhaps not as compelling as some of their other stuff for the almost-trackyness of it, but still nice. The Freaks mix gets tired quickly) DJ Genesis : Back in the Middle (The Remixes) - Dynamite Soul 12 (No reason to bother with this except for the Theo Parrish remix, but it is excellent. I really like the return to the dancefloor he's made in the last year or so. This is just no-nonsense deep Detroit beatdown with hints at techno, as we like it from Mr. Parrish. Those chords are sick.) Everyday People Feat. Loretta Heywood : I Can't Sleep - Earth Project 12 (All three are very good and very different. One housey with a hint of broken beat, one downtempo in a very analogue Spacek way, the last with a devastating Afronaught beat and all the goodies you'd expect from him. This is one hell of a broken beat tune - just wish there was another version of this mix with the vocal too. Am I just imagining that it exists elsewhere?) Mark Force : Running In The Red - Archive 12 (Quality broken techno at a variety of speeds with a variety of different breaks. Pretty nutty. Not gaga over it, but definitely worth a thorough scan. Also still need to spend some more time with this one.) Franz Ferdinand : Take Me Out - Morgan Geist Re-Version - Domino 12 (More ultra-slow house grooves from MG. Like I said initially, this should appeal to the MG house of jealous lovers remix fans. The vocal is better on this though, and the remix really covers some territory while capturing the
