Re: (313) confused, from Manchester
On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: i dont get it either. what was the point of doing this on 313? please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. What's the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at [sic] the right places - but to wake someone's attention they must actually see live what's possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to don't [sic] cause damage to himself or others. Rob, Rob, Rob. Take a look at this: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/net.unix/browse_thread/thread/ 4d966dc8bbcf0ed8/aa67578d283e9cad? q=%22Greg+Earle%22+sendmail#aa67578d283e9cad Notice the date, Rob? December 13th, 1985. According to http://robtone.mine.nu/hp/robtone.html you are 27 years old now. So you were all of 8 YEARS OLD when I posted that Usenet message about Sendmail, Rob. I've been running Sendmail/SMTP servers since you were 7, Rob. I KNOW ABOUT E-MAIL SPOOFING. I KNOW ABOUT TELNET'ING INTO AN SMTP SERVER AND INJECTING HEADERS AND MAIL MANUALLY. I don't need you to remind me - or the rest of this list - that it's possible to do so. Just because you're a computer geek with a FreeBSD 4.8 mail server doesn't mean - surprise! - you're the only computer geek on here that understands MTA's. And I just noticed that Matt McQueen byaaatch-slapped you anyway about it, so that's all I have to say in the matter. - (An angry) Greg
Re: (313) Carl Craig '
If only Mixmag did cover the philosophy, it's all Paris Hilton clones and drug reports innit Low music IQ, LCD (lowest common denom). The philosophy is fun as well. Each to his/her own... -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Weston Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: (313) Carl Craig ' >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 7:25 PM > > At 2:23 pm +1100 16/3/05, r wrote: >>Forget all this riff raff mumbo jumbo. just make music and play it. >>leave the philosophy to authors of mix mag. > > and everything will be alright? > > (can't think of anyone worse to leave the philosophy to BTW)
Fw: Re: (313) wladimir m...?
>> and i am shocked cus many of the tracks are straight up disco...years >> before the hague picked up on it again.. >ooh now that i'd like to hear.. And to be fair to you and KJ, yes, ok wait a sec, not a lot -- just "declaration of love" and "doem" (which is an interlude thingy)... the vocals in declaration are GREAT imo -- wladimir is singing not just speaking, and there's a girl too... it reminds me of parallax corp liftoff a lot...and...something from the rock world that i cant put my finger on. i love it deeply. >Evil was a good cut... i guess his spoken word tracks just never resonated with me so much, felt forced or something.. hrmm. same here, same here... >what else is on tap for 2005 at the DownLow braintrust? convextion/erp 12" next month -- has been delayed in the mastering process for 2 months now, i wear a hairpiece now. connection machine 12" with carl craig edit of "harmonic resonance", another album track, and a couple brand new things (super lush!) in may. nebraska (rei mitsui on ferox, also had a GREAT 12" on russ g's player label...really sweet ferox "techno soul" style house, paperclip peopley sometimes..) album in summer/early fall...convextion album before the end of the year...knock on wood cus delays seek us out with a vengeance
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
On Mar 16, 2005, at 4:04 PM, J.T. wrote: we will just put the gun to the head and make the threats again like we did with connection machine yea for connection machine reissue!! yes...evil! and i am shocked cus many of the tracks are straight up disco...years before the hague picked up on it again.. ooh now that i'd like to hear.. And to be fair to you and KJ, yes, Evil was a good cut... i guess his spoken word tracks just never resonated with me so much, felt forced or something.. hrmm. what else is on tap for 2005 at the DownLow braintrust? -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
we will just put the gun to the head and make the threats again like we did with connection machine yes...evil! and i am shocked cus many of the tracks are straight up disco...years before the hague picked up on it again.. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 16, 2005 4:25 PM To: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) wladimir m...? Last thing i heard he isn't really active in music anymore... Evil is still on of the best tracks on Eevo Lute though... On Mar 16, 2005, at 9:51 PM, J.T. wrote: > do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? > > i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got > ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... > he should come back and team up with aroy and 154! >
Re: (313) all remaining ev1's scrapped
matt kane's brain wrote: http://ev1-club.power.net/ These are photos of the remains of the last GM EV1 electric cars. GM has retired this model, presumably to spend more resources researching hydrogen and hybrid engine technologies... ...But actually to waste more on corporate reshuffling and huge exec bonuses. :-0 jeff
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
Wladmir's stuff is spoken word over electronic/techno backgrounds - always pessimistic, very dark. Great prelude to taking a long walk off a short pier. jeff
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154! i think he did vocals on one of those aardvarck (non)spoken 12"s, the 7" that came with the original 12" to be exact, here it is: http://www.discogs.com/release/96373 jurren
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
On Mar 16, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:51 PM, J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything... really? i always thought it was a little repressed and wack sounding... "hey you, on the bike! waiting to be mine..." woah dude. ;) or wait, was that a Max404 track... (thanks Lee) but i thought wladimir m did the guest whisper vocals on that cut? :) I think that you are talking about a Max404 track here, from his love & mathematics album. The other records where produced by Stefan Robbers.
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:51 PM, J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything... really? i always thought it was a little repressed and wack sounding... "hey you, on the bike! waiting to be mine..." woah dude. ;) or wait, was that a Max404 track... (thanks Lee) but i thought wladimir m did the guest whisper vocals on that cut? :) -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
(313) all remaining ev1's scrapped
http://ev1-club.power.net/ These are photos of the remains of the last GM EV1 electric cars. GM has retired this model, presumably to spend more resources researching hydrogen and hybrid engine technologies. I think it's fitting to have a little music funeral. Any suggestions? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
Quite a happy chappy as I remember :) Jason On 16 Mar 2005, at 20:51, J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154!
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
On Mar 16, 2005, at 2:51 PM, J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything... really? i always thought it was a little repressed and wack sounding... "hey you, on the bike! waiting to be mine..." woah dude. ;) i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154! maybe i need to hear more than I have of his stuff JT... i mean it was earnest, sure, but not necessarily all that enjoyable (to me). -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) wladimir m...?
Last thing i heard he isn't really active in music anymore... Evil is still on of the best tracks on Eevo Lute though... On Mar 16, 2005, at 9:51 PM, J.T. wrote: do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154!
(313) wladimir m...?
do any of you dutch dudes know him? or what became of him? i think his old eevo stuff is as classic as anything...i just got ahold of mp3s of it all and i am instantly in love it... he should come back and team up with aroy and 154!
(313) Dan Bell & Cabanne Friday in NYC
Friday March 18 ***THE BUNKER*** DOWNSTAIRS Cabanne (Telegraph, Perlon | Paris) Dan Bell (Accelerate, 7th City, Logistic | Berlin) Dan Bell is one of the most important figures in the history of minimal techno. He started out by collaborating with Richie Hawtin as Cybersonik in the early 90's, releasing "Technarchy" and other classic tracks. In the mid-90's, he produced several records on his own as DBX (including the enourmously successful "Losing Control") that more or less defined minimal techno. He then went on to create 7th City Distribution and several new record labels. In 2000, he moved to Berlin, and has released two amazing mix CD's and a few remixes since then. He is currently working on new material and DJing around the world. His last two appearances at the Bunker were phenomenal. Dan really loves subTonic and asked to come back. How could we possibly refuse? http://daniel-bell.com/ Cabanne is a shadowy figure from the French minimal techno scene who we do not know much about. We do know his music, and that's enough for us. He has released some excellent 12"s, including collaborations with Dan Bell, Ark, and John Thomas. He was also part of the first Narod Niki experiment, a live collaboration with Dan Bell, Richie Hawtin, Ricardo Villalobos, Akufen, Dimbiman and others at the Mutek festival in 2003. This is a very rare North American appearance. plus ... resident DJs: Spinoza, Movement visualists: Chris Jordan, Giles Hendrix Fridays at subTonic 107 Norfolk Street (212)358-7501 downstairs: $5, 21+, 9p-4a more info, upcoming guests, heavy rotation - http://www.klever.org/thebunkernyc UPCOMING: 04/01: Marc Houle (M_nus | Windsor) live
(313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
I'm with Ian. Hadn't seen him until a couple of years ago but each of the 3 or 4 times since then have been wicked. KJ, your descriptions of his Dutch sets have always really baffled me! Only one of those sets felt unfunky to me, but in that case the brutality made up for it. Generally I find he plays some pretty deep stuff (if at 140-150 bpm) and generally a fair amount of his own stuff. And he's been one of the tightest mixers I've seen on each occasion. Sometimes it even seems like he mixes minimal techno like a deep house DJ, with really long blends, etc. Sounds weird but seems that way to me. Oh, and he sh*ts on the rest of the world from a great height when it comes to the 909. *Really* looking forward to he and Passarani at Fabric next Saturday (and Akufen and Crackhaus who I probably won't see because I'll be watching the other two all night, err at least a good chunk of it following some time at Flushpoint). Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Original message Subject:SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16th March 2005 4:55:1 what? I can't believe thathe played at Split party in London and people were ravinf about him being on form..I saw him at the Custard Factory in Birmmingham a year or so ago and he was unreal! I have never heard him train wreck, honest. > > On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood >> played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. >> >> He played a nice sounding record. >> >> I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time >> >> "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. >> >> "What's this record please?" > > So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last > saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from > the man. I have to say that he couldn't get a straight mix (and i am > talking serious train-wrecks here) in the first 45 minutes. Once again > his whole set was filled with nothing more then non-inspirational, > non-funky music. We have chords and scales for a reason, they make > music sound good, please use them. > After Rob Hood however came James Ruskin and he was quite good to be > honest. He dropped some more funkier stuff and even some Blaze, Blake > Baxter and Electroids... > > I am so disappointed in Rob Hood the last couple of years, what > happened to the Minimal Nation? Did the US listed it as a country that > supported terrorism or what? > > > KJ > > >
(313) DJ Traxx on Equinox live today!
OK Folks, just got off the phone and DJ Traxx will be my guest on today's show. Tune in Live from 4-6pm EST (GMT -5hrs) to the Electrique stream on www.netmusique.com Also... feel free to join in the chat and say hi! For those who can't tune in live - i usually post an archive of the show within 24hrs, which you can find on the 'Equinox' page on my site www.gerald-matrix.com Cheers! G website: www.gerald-matrix.com event organiser/writer/dj: Kick Magazine - www.kickmagazine.ca radio host: Equinox Radio on Electrique @ www.netmusique.com
Re: (313) http://robtone.mine.nu
?? - just when you think you know someone - it's actually someone else! MEK (this is me by the way - I think) [EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk To 03/16/05 12:17 PM Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 <313@hyperreal.org> cc Subject Re: (313) http://robtone.mine.nu LOL - busted! Hope you get some DJ bookings out of this my friend ;) At 6:04 pm + 16/3/05, Robert Felber wrote: >http://robtone.mine.nu
(313) NEVER post email to 313 disguised as someone else
Hi Robert, I am helping out the folks at Hyperreal.org look after the 313 list. Noble intentions or not, you've just violated one of the few simple rules in the 313 constitution: * Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). (and also) * List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. It is grounds for getting banned from 313 to post ANYTHING to the list posing as another 313 list member, in good humor/intention or not, from their correct actual email address or not. It's creepy, an invasion of privacy and whether it's TECHNICALLY possible or not is beside the point: it's unethical and disruptive. For the 2% of the 313 listmembers who can do your trick, that doesn't make it okay to do it and wave it in everyone's faces, especially those who have no idea of how to correct it. While I don't necessarily disagree with cause, the manner of which you've brought this to bear is unacceptable. I can't allow you (or more importantly) any other 313 member to essentially hold the list hostage to their pet "cause" and disrupt the reason the list was formed to begin with. Any further discussion of email list security should be had with the people who run Hyperreal and manage the email software. Feel free to contact them and share what you've learned, but not not post about it any further on 313. I will grant you this one-time warning to stay on 313 as a member provided you not post any more on this topic, as righteous as you feel about it or not. And to post something to 313 again as me or anyone else would be immediate grounds for dismissal -- that goes for everyone, effective immediately. sorry to have to step in and get all rules-based, (which i am loathe to do) but this is ridiculous. This should be the last post on this topic that makes it to 313. Thank you, Matt On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Robert Felber wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: i dont get it either. what was the point of doing this on 313? please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) http://robtone.mine.nu
LOL - busted! Hope you get some DJ bookings out of this my friend ;) At 6:04 pm + 16/3/05, Robert Felber wrote: http://robtone.mine.nu
Re: (313) http://robtone.mine.nu
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 19:04 +0100, Robert Felber wrote: > http://robtone.mine.nu Laugh, right. I'm glad someone worked it out. I hope some day either pgp is allowed, or the smtpd of hyperreal does reasonable (in the range of the possible) headerchecks. -- rob
Re: (313) no worries.
>Or didn't anyone else notice those missing in the "test" and >"no worries." e-mails besides me? in my blind panic, I cant say I did! and it was blind panic, trust me! I get all worked up very easily, (incase you hadn't noticed), even worse when I dont have a clue how to work/control whats going wrong! anyway, thanks greg, and everyone else, learnt something about all this today. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) http://robtone.mine.nu
http://robtone.mine.nu
Re: (313) no worries.
Lest I point out the obvious, all of the "real" Alex's e-mails are sent with .signature-style disclaimers from his company, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. And they also have Message-ID headers. Or didn't anyone else notice those missing in the "test" and "no worries." e-mails besides me? (I can't look into it further, because I'm on the Digest and the Digest version scrubs all the "full" e-mail headers with the exception of Date:/To:/From:/Cc:/Subject:/Message-ID:.) The "no worries." e-mail tells me that the perpetrator is (a) on this list; and (b) not a native English speaker. *cough*IhearFranceislovelythistimeofyear*cough* Mail spoofing isn't new, nor is telnet'ing to port 25 to submit SMTP mail manually. It also isn't amusing. Just stop it. - Greg
RE: (313) confused, from Manchester
Might want to check #4 below http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/04.html >The one thing that is under my control is unsubscribing people that abuse the list. >When posting to 313 keep the following rules of conduct in mind: * Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. * List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. * List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule. * Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). * Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. * Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls missing out on what you had to say. "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED] thlink.net>To Robert Taylor 03/16/05 11:55 AM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Please respond to cc "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject thlink.net>RE: (313) confused, from Manchester i agree. the only offender using this loophole is you yourself. you seem nice and all, but this isnt a place to play games. this seems like behavior that should be rewarded with being ejected from the list to me. since i dont have that power, i hope you just go back to lurking and leaving other people alone. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 16, 2005 12:49 PM To: Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) confused, from Manchester I haven't a clue what you're on about and why you did it. It seems an odd thing to do. What were you trying to prove? -Original Message- From: Robert Felber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) confused, from Manchester On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: > i dont get it either. > what was the point of doing this on 313? > please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) confused, from Manchester
So what? Not really the place to show it, is it? (as others have pointed out) -Original Message- From: Robert Felber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) confused, from Manchester On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:49 +, Robert Taylor wrote: > I haven't a clue what you're on about and why you did it. > It seems an odd thing to do. > What were you trying to prove? that it is easier as one might think to send mail in others name. -- rob # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) confused, from Manchester
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:49 +, Robert Taylor wrote: > I haven't a clue what you're on about and why you did it. > It seems an odd thing to do. > What were you trying to prove? that it is easier as one might think to send mail in others name. one wouldnt even need to be subscribed to a list which would be rather harmless. it would become serious if one does not send spam or viruses with a real existing faked adress but - lets say order some stuff, or - craft some mail so, that a victim, working for a company, asks for a job at another company and manages it so, that the boss would see it - which would end in a fired victim. the possibilities are wide. its not just faked spam or viruses. but i see the responses and their attitudes and realize that it was of course a very wrong thing to do - because no one cares. -- rob
RE: (313) confused, from Manchester
i agree. the only offender using this loophole is you yourself. you seem nice and all, but this isnt a place to play games. this seems like behavior that should be rewarded with being ejected from the list to me. since i dont have that power, i hope you just go back to lurking and leaving other people alone. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 16, 2005 12:49 PM To: Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) confused, from Manchester I haven't a clue what you're on about and why you did it. It seems an odd thing to do. What were you trying to prove? -Original Message- From: Robert Felber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) confused, from Manchester On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: > i dont get it either. > what was the point of doing this on 313? > please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling > nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) confused, from Manchester
but this is the 313-list. It's supposed to be dysfunctional! ;) MEK Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED] e> To 313@hyperreal.org 03/16/05 11:48 AM cc Subject Re: (313) confused, from Manchester On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: > i dont get it either. > what was the point of doing this on 313? > please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others.
RE: (313) confused, from Manchester
I haven't a clue what you're on about and why you did it. It seems an odd thing to do. What were you trying to prove? -Original Message- From: Robert Felber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) confused, from Manchester On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: > i dont get it either. > what was the point of doing this on 313? > please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling > nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) confused, from Manchester
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 09:31 -0800, J.T. wrote: > i dont get it either. > what was the point of doing this on 313? > please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling > nonsense about computer/email security. Exactly that was the intention. Whats the goal, to do this on a list like bugtraq etc, where everyone knows about it. Of course, if one would be interested in it, he would lookup at the right places - but to wake someones attention they must actually see live whats possible to become interested. You want your mail to work (as you want your car to drive) - but for both one should know how it works to dont cause damage to himself or others.
Re: (313) no worries.
phew, well, I'm just relieved someone hadn't really got into my email. I was thinking "s**t" just imagine! anyway, on another note. anyone got an application form for the "SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER division of the army"? thanks alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) confused, from Manchester
i dont get it either. what was the point of doing this on 313? please dont. i subscribe for rambling nonsense about music, not rambling nonsense about computer/email security. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 16, 2005 9:23 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) confused, from Manchester Hi My names Alex. I'm confused. I don't know much about computers, I can do the basics (kinda). What on earth was all this about? You computer kids are too crazy for me. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) no worries.
y'know this is a pretty sh*tty way of going about showing us a loophole that most technical people are aware of anyway. it's caused a lot of panic. next time please think before you try make a point. robin... Robert Felber wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 04:53:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, what matt said is exactly what I did. Everyone can do this, unfortunately: ok, so who was this?! because it wasn't me that sent that last email Me, sorry, that i have hit you - but hitting you caused the most attention.
Re: (313) no worries.
phew, cool! thought someone had it in for me!! ok, well cheers rob. alex Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: Robert Felber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 16/03/2005 17:22 Subject: Re: (313) no worries. On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Rob. > > Just out of interest, was it you who did the first one? yes, made it a bit like a serious flaw, which cause great attention, sorry that i bugged the list though. > need to withdraw my threats if it was!!! > > : ) > > what a wally I am! > > alex -- rob _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) confused, from Manchester
Hi My names Alex. I'm confused. I don't know much about computers, I can do the basics (kinda). What on earth was all this about? You computer kids are too crazy for me. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) no worries.
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 17:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Rob. > > Just out of interest, was it you who did the first one? yes, made it a bit like a serious flaw, which cause great attention, sorry that i bugged the list though. > need to withdraw my threats if it was!!! > > : ) > > what a wally I am! > > alex -- rob
Re: (313) no worries.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 04:53:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Well, what matt said is exactly what I did. > >Everyone can do this, unfortunately: > > ok, so who was this?! because it wasn't me that sent that last email Me, sorry, that i have hit you - but hitting you caused the most attention. > this is getting well confusing. > > so, er, what now? > can I do anything to stop it? Yes/No: for your own security uses S/MIME or pretty good privacy called pgp. But - you cannot prevent someone sending mail in your name. pgp / s/mine is to sign your email with a key which only you have, and for which only you know the passphrase. its just a signed mail. unfortunately hyperreal doesnt support mime mails, only text/plain - so there is no way on hyperreal to know whether the mail is from you or not - solution would be, if hyperreal would accept pgp/sm/mime mail. for more details: google and pgp or gpg > p.s. can I put all the rubbish I've talked over the last 5 years down to > this joker? go on, let me at least try. might stop me feeling embarrased. No, you did not get hacked at all. No one ever had access to your machine. p.s.: i dont even think of trying it, but i suspect that it would be VERY easy to send your boss a mail, with your sender, containg a virus. Actually, I have fought with such things today - and i got a little solution, but just for our setup, if it works or is possible with other mailer setups - i dont know (yet). -- rob
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
what? I can't believe thathe played at Split party in London and people were ravinf about him being on form..I saw him at the Custard Factory in Birmmingham a year or so ago and he was unreal! I have never heard him train wreck, honest. > > On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood >> played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. >> >> He played a nice sounding record. >> >> I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time >> >> "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. >> >> "What's this record please?" > > So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last > saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from > the man. I have to say that he couldn't get a straight mix (and i am > talking serious train-wrecks here) in the first 45 minutes. Once again > his whole set was filled with nothing more then non-inspirational, > non-funky music. We have chords and scales for a reason, they make > music sound good, please use them. > After Rob Hood however came James Ruskin and he was quite good to be > honest. He dropped some more funkier stuff and even some Blaze, Blake > Baxter and Electroids... > > I am so disappointed in Rob Hood the last couple of years, what > happened to the Minimal Nation? Did the US listed it as a country that > supported terrorism or what? > > > KJ > > >
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those bored as hell check http://www.preople.com/ interesting...i come out at 1530 :) robin...
Re: (313) no worries.
>Well, what matt said is exactly what I did. >Everyone can do this, unfortunately: ok, so who was this?! because it wasn't me that sent that last email this is getting well confusing. so, er, what now? can I do anything to stop it? this is alex by the way. p.s. can I put all the rubbish I've talked over the last 5 years down to this joker? go on, let me at least try. might stop me feeling embarrased. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) no worries.
Well, what matt said is exactly what I did. Everyone can do this, unfortunately: telnet mx.hyperreal.org 25 helo FAKED_SENDER_HELO mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] data from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: blah and there your text - or even virus. then a single dot and that was was it. No one got haked, but some unverfied sender got used. since all mail adresses are NOT ownend, no one can "pay" security or even laws. the only chance is, for MTAs and relays, to check the headers for correctnes, but we live in a world where EVERYTHING MUST work, recardless of configuration errors. Thus everyone can send everyone mail faking everyone. sad. anyway, this way one gets more attention to serious flaws.
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
for those bored as hell check http://www.preople.com/ also find out internet's biggest techno hero?
RE: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
> "For the future of techno, please play some Whitehouse, Rapemaster" I hope that's the name of a track, and not a pet name
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from the man. I have to say that he couldn't get a straight mix (and i am talking serious train-wrecks here) in the first 45 minutes. Once again his whole set was filled with nothing more then non-inspirational, non-funky music. We have chords and scales for a reason, they make music sound good, please use them. After Rob Hood however came James Ruskin and he was quite good to be honest. He dropped some more funkier stuff and even some Blaze, Blake Baxter and Electroids... I am so disappointed in Rob Hood the last couple of years, what happened to the Minimal Nation? Did the US listed it as a country that supported terrorism or what? I hear you but I kinda like his relentless battles, enjoyed the last two gigs, well harsh - bring the noise bob... Talking of harsh, at the last BMB gig - this beautiful slip of thing walks up to the DJ box and asks if she can speak to Tony, sure. He's halfway through hammering Whitehouse and she passes him a note that says "For the future of techno, please play some Whitehouse, Rapemaster" Cue the this is Whitehouse conversation and she ended it with "Haven't you got anything harder"! Martin
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
>So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last >saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from >the man. ahh, forgot to say KJ, this was in '94 I think?! alex (the real one, not the joker) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. He played a nice sounding record. I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. "What's this record please?" So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from the man. I have to say that he couldn't get a straight mix (and i am talking serious train-wrecks here) in the first 45 minutes. Once again his whole set was filled with nothing more then non-inspirational, non-funky music. We have chords and scales for a reason, they make music sound good, please use them. After Rob Hood however came James Ruskin and he was quite good to be honest. He dropped some more funkier stuff and even some Blaze, Blake Baxter and Electroids... I am so disappointed in Rob Hood the last couple of years, what happened to the Minimal Nation? Did the US listed it as a country that supported terrorism or what? KJ
RE: (313) test
>The culprit isn't using Lotus Notes thanks for that Matt. motherf**ker, if you're out there, you're a dead man. straight up. anyone finds out who this c**t is, let me know. Ta. Alex p.s. guess I deserve it, its computer karma. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) test
>Someone at your work? can't be, not left my PC. also room is locked when I aint here. f**k, what is going on? does anyone know? this worries me, they could send emails to anyone right? I feel violent. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) test
Exactly what i was typing :) you can't even see the original host that the 'sender' use to post it, since hyperreal clean the original headers. - Original Message - From: "matt kane's brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: RE: (313) test > At 10:50 AM 3/16/2005, Robert Taylor wrote: > >Someone at your work? > > The culprit isn't using Lotus Notes, so that's unlikely. The offender > didn't capitalize the from: and to: headers, so it's probably some nitwit > using an open relay and telnet to send mail in someone else's name. > > It might not be an open relay, but it's hard to say since the mailing > blocks many of the original headers. > -- > unsigned short int to_yer_mama; > matt kane's brain > http://www.hydrogenproject.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk > > >
RE: (313) test
At 10:50 AM 3/16/2005, Robert Taylor wrote: Someone at your work? The culprit isn't using Lotus Notes, so that's unlikely. The offender didn't capitalize the from: and to: headers, so it's probably some nitwit using an open relay and telnet to send mail in someone else's name. It might not be an open relay, but it's hard to say since the mailing blocks many of the original headers. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
RE: (313) test
Someone at your work? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:50 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) test ok, whoever the p**ck is f**king around with my email, I going to find you and set you on fire. thanks c**t face. I got alot of private s**t in my email. dead man walking _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) test
ok, whoever the p**ck is f**king around with my email, I going to find you and set you on fire. thanks c**t face. I got alot of private s**t in my email. dead man walking _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) test
What the f**k? I never sent this, what the f**k is going on? Alex Bond/UK/INF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org A-UK cc: Subject: (313) test 16/03/2005 15:45 Just wanted to test my mailer Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to test my mailer Alex it's not working ;) andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005
RE: (313) test
It's working! I wouldn't think you would want to hang round with us plebs now you've been in The Guardian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) test Just wanted to test my mailer Alex # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) test
Just wanted to test my mailer Alex
RE: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
>Evidently there's a no share policy on that one. Been trying to break the will of my sources but they're a strong >bunch and I am easily overcome by apathy and diversions. ooh, thanks for trying kamal. dying to get that. wonder what it sounds like, I've forgotten now! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
> And while I'm on the > subject where the bloody hell is the freaky deaky thing on > mahogani, Kamal - did you ever get a cd of it at all? Evidently there's a no share policy on that one. Been trying to break the will of my sources but they're a strong bunch and I am easily overcome by apathy and diversions. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:30 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles > > Hmm. > > In my own little world today. > > I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day > Rob Hood played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. > > He played a nice sounding record. > > I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time > > "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. > > "What's this record please?" > > "It's called 'Sleepcycles' young man" he said. "It's on axis, > but I'm not sure if Jeff will ever put it out" > > Did this record ever come out? It was real nice minimal rob > hood gear destined for axis apparently. I need > that as well. > > Ta > > Alex > _ > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, > non-business capacity and is not on behalf of > PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor > outgoing and incoming e-mails and other > telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. By replying > to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. >
RE: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
>That track ended up coming out on the Minimal Nation M-Plant repress: well well well!! I dodn't even know there was a repress of minimal nation! You learn something new every day here, thanks Brendan! Wonder if its how I remember it? I only ever heard it once. ALex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
That track ended up coming out on the Minimal Nation M-Plant repress: http://www.discogs.com/release/7000 Really nice track, that one! Brendan > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 March 2005 14:30 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles > > > Hmm. > > In my own little world today. > > I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood > played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. > > He played a nice sounding record. > > I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time > > "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. > > "What's this record please?" > > "It's called 'Sleepcycles' young man" he said. "It's on axis, but I'm not > sure if Jeff will ever put it out" > > Did this record ever come out? It was real nice minimal rob hood gear > destined for axis apparently. And while I'm on the subject where > the bloody > hell is the freaky deaky thing on mahogani, Kamal - did you ever get a cd > of it at all? I need that as well. > > Ta > > Alex
Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
"It's called 'Sleepcycles' young man" he said. "It's on axis, but I'm not sure if Jeff will ever put it out" sure you didn't mis-hear 'sleepchamber'? some help me. :) Did this record ever come out? It was real nice minimal rob hood gear destined for axis apparently. And while I'm on the subject where the bloody hell is the freaky deaky thing on mahogani, Kamal - did you ever get a cd of it at all? I need that as well. hasn't martin got a copy of this? robin...
(313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
Hmm. In my own little world today. I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. He played a nice sounding record. I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time "Hi Rob" I said, in a polite voice. "What's this record please?" "It's called 'Sleepcycles' young man" he said. "It's on axis, but I'm not sure if Jeff will ever put it out" Did this record ever come out? It was real nice minimal rob hood gear destined for axis apparently. And while I'm on the subject where the bloody hell is the freaky deaky thing on mahogani, Kamal - did you ever get a cd of it at all? I need that as well. Ta Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: FW: (313) Carl Craig '
>you didn't have to be in chicago or have farley jackmaster funk djing, to have >a great night out dancing to house music. Maybe not but (back then especially) it really REALLY helped. :) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
Re: (313) the most expensive techno record ever?
>those r 2 serious bidders tho. right! phew!! deffo the most expensive techno record then right?! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) the most expensive techno record ever?
those r 2 serious bidders tho. dr blowfin won the 2 jeff mills promo's on axis recently 150 £ or there abouts each p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that clarence G is up to £828 apparently on ebay. me thinks someones having a laugh somewhere. guy selling has no feedback. ouch. maybe peeps are bidding just to win it up. err, anyone got a spare they wanna swap? ha hahahahhahahahaaa. Me, I'm off to Bristol tonight. ; ) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) the most expensive techno record ever?
that clarence G is up to £828 apparently on ebay. me thinks someones having a laugh somewhere. guy selling has no feedback. ouch. maybe peeps are bidding just to win it up. err, anyone got a spare they wanna swap? ha hahahahhahahahaaa. Me, I'm off to Bristol tonight. ; ) Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Detroit Inspired Mix
Lots of tasty basslines, lush strings, and naturally a likkle bit of acid http://www.acidmixes.com enjoy p
RE: (313) Dan Bell At Bleep43, May 1st
Hoof***ingray! I've invited my mate Josh (or 'Winky' as his mates call him) down cos he's a big fan of Dan's -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:59 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dan Bell At Bleep43, May 1st Please note the date change to Sunday May 1. (That's the day before a UK public holiday, non-UK folks.) There's a flyer with details here: http://www.bleep43.com Thank you. Ken Ken Odeluga Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Dan Bell At Bleep43, May 1st
Please note the date change to Sunday May 1. (That's the day before a UK public holiday, non-UK folks.) There's a flyer with details here: http://www.bleep43.com Thank you. Ken Ken Odeluga Editor, Markets - Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Re: Jeff Mills recent releases was: (313) 3 x 7" Infinite axis series available at Axis store
Hi Gerald, he has recently released part 2 of a 3 x 12" set under the name Three Ages. Part 2 was called Roman Age and is quite good - worth checking I would say. Cheers BT --- Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anybody have suggestions for other recent releases > by Mr. Mills. i remember > a few of you mentioning them a couple of months ago > as some of the best > tracks of 2004. > > Cheers! > > G > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: (313) 3 x 7" Infinite axis series > available at Axis store > > > > > >>was more interested in the pencils to be > honest. how could you fail > >>to be a proper literary genius with pencils of > that stature... > > > > indeed. > > > > I can see it now. "Space, the final frontier" by > P.L.Acid > > > > deep s**t. > > > > : ) > > > _ > > - End of message text > > > > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in > > their individual, non-business capacity and > > is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. > > > > PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor > > outgoing and incoming e-mails and other > > telecommunications on its e-mail and > > telecommunications systems. By replying > > to this e-mail you give your consent to such > monitoring. > > > >
Re: (313) Carl Craig '
>Forget all this riff raff mumbo jumbo. just make music and play it. >leave the philosophy to authors of mix mag. ahh. mr R. I must have missed your contribution in the past. I thank you for your enlightening contribution. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Carl Craig '
At 2:23 pm +1100 16/3/05, r wrote: Forget all this riff raff mumbo jumbo. just make music and play it. leave the philosophy to authors of mix mag. and everything will be alright? (can't think of anyone worse to leave the philosophy to BTW)
Re: (313) Carl Craig '
On 3/16/05 5:36 PM, "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Some comments from CC in an interview with a local paper here: > > those were some nice quotes here, do you have a link to the full > story? I looked for a link, but no joy. The article with the interview is "Future Sounds" by Grant Smithies, Escape section, Sunday Star-Times, March 13. They archive their issues here, but you have to pay to gain access it seems. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,0a6005,00.html Here's the rest of the direct quotes from CC, anyway, for those of you interested in where his head is currently at (or where it's been): "You drive around Detroit now [and] there's all these monolithic factories with blown-out windows, there's burnt-out cars like in a war zone, crackheads wandering around the wreckage, and so on. It's very worn-out looking, but also very futuristic looking, like something out of Blade Runner or RoboCop. When we were inventing this music as teenagers we all thought automation, computerisation and electronics were the things that were going to transform society and lead to a better world, which is ironic because they've actually put even more people out of work. But my point is, we weren't escaping. Sure, we were imagining alternative realities, but we were basing them at home, in Detroit. We made music to make the place we were living in more beautiful." [Talking about Motown's influence on him]: "Man, I hate most of that sh*t. Some Motown artists like Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder, they had a certain ominous darkness, a kind of symphonic melancholia to their best music that you also hear in a lot of techno. But thing like 'My Guy' or 'Dancing in the Streets', those songs are pure bubblegum, man. Even so, those songs had an influence. Detroit techno artists like myself, Detroit funk guys like Parliament, Detroit rock acts like MC5 or The Stooges -- we were all reacting to that sugary production-line stuff in our own ways. We wanted to overthrow it, not be seen as related to it just because we happened to be born in the same town." Cheers, Wes
Re: (313) Some tunage
is that a new or re-released egyptian lover track? i've never heard of it. it's a new one as far as i know. robin...
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-- Original Message -- From: Weston Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Some comments from CC in an interview with a local paper here: those were some nice quotes here, do you have a link to the full story? carl craig is one of the few people who can talk this kinda sh*t and get away with it. the guy is always killing it on some new sounding sh*t, but he never sacrifices quality. tom andythepooh.com
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is that a new or re-released egyptian lover track? i've never heard of it. he's still around, right - he performed recently somewhere in europe. hope he hasn't changed his hair style! I love his photo on the back of freak-a-holic or is it living on the nile. james www.jbucknell.com robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ctric.com> To 313 <313@hyperreal.org> 16/03/05 12:50 AM cc Subject (313) Some tunage Egyptian Lover - Party - Egyptian Lover Records Ok he doesn't vary much in his style but Party is still a good track.
(313) 30 minutes of Timeline (live)
http://www.distorsonie.it/mediawebeng.htmlclick on DF04 -> 24 = Timeline After Journey of the Dragons plays, the next segmentwill load. The audio ain't so good, but I think you'll get it. Enjoy!
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Forget all this riff raff mumbo jumbo. just make music and play it. leave the philosophy to authors of mix mag. On 16/03/2005, at 2:59 PM, Weston Prince wrote: On 3/16/05 8:55 AM, "Simon Kong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. Sure, but older technology can still be used to those ends, the way certain 'obsolete' machines were reclaimed by various Detroit innovators in order to express themselves. In a somewhat related way, Mills uses old films and stories (The Time Machine) to get the brain synapses firing and explore new techno trajectories. How does 'newness' enter the world, anyway? Often by turning technology against itself, by forcing it against the grain, against nature (or what have become the natural, accepted norms of commodity culture). But will the "spirit of the people" always be "greater than man's technology" as Cleaver famously said? Aren't these things part and parcel of the same thing? Some comments from CC in an interview with a local paper here: "Techno is a state of mind. It's driven by an obsession with the future and what the future should be, and it's an attempt to represent that in sound. The best techno music sounds like nothing you've ever heard before, yet the mood it's expressing is instantly familiar. Techno is what you get when a bunch of black ghetto kids start dreaming of alternative futures, rather than reporting on what they see, which is more the department of hip-hop." "My music takes a different stance to most music, I think. It's a little quirky, it's influenced by almost everything, and I'm careful to ensure that it isn't just different from what everybody else is doing, but also different from what I've done in the past." "What I do is about being original, not copying. I make music to express what the future sounds like for me, a black man who grew up during the '70s in the rubble of capitalism in America. For someone growing up in New Zealand, the future should sound very different." Cheers, Wes
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On 3/16/05 8:55 AM, "Simon Kong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to > to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. Sure, but older technology can still be used to those ends, the way certain 'obsolete' machines were reclaimed by various Detroit innovators in order to express themselves. In a somewhat related way, Mills uses old films and stories (The Time Machine) to get the brain synapses firing and explore new techno trajectories. How does 'newness' enter the world, anyway? Often by turning technology against itself, by forcing it against the grain, against nature (or what have become the natural, accepted norms of commodity culture). But will the "spirit of the people" always be "greater than man's technology" as Cleaver famously said? Aren't these things part and parcel of the same thing? Some comments from CC in an interview with a local paper here: "Techno is a state of mind. It's driven by an obsession with the future and what the future should be, and it's an attempt to represent that in sound. The best techno music sounds like nothing you've ever heard before, yet the mood it's expressing is instantly familiar. Techno is what you get when a bunch of black ghetto kids start dreaming of alternative futures, rather than reporting on what they see, which is more the department of hip-hop." "My music takes a different stance to most music, I think. It's a little quirky, it's influenced by almost everything, and I'm careful to ensure that it isn't just different from what everybody else is doing, but also different from what I've done in the past." "What I do is about being original, not copying. I make music to express what the future sounds like for me, a black man who grew up during the '70s in the rubble of capitalism in America. For someone growing up in New Zealand, the future should sound very different." Cheers, Wes
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one of the great revolutions that occurred with the rise of dj based dance music was the removal of the performer/audience dichotomy. the dancers on the dancefloor became the entertainment. the action was happening on the dancefloor not on the stage. power to the people! no more standing around all staring at a stage with some egotistical jerk masturbating his guitar. 'promised land' and 'sueno latino' sounded just as good and just the same no matter who played them. you didn't have to be in chicago or have farley jackmaster funk djing, to have a great night out dancing to house music. but that didn't really last long - now everybody just faces the dj watching them change records and won't go out unless it's a name dj. back to the boring old days of rock n roll again. james www.jbucknell.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ds.net> To 16/03/05 12:53 PM "313" <313@hyperreal.org> cc Subject Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' all words well spoken! kong for king Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: "Simon Kong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' > >> good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to >> entertain? > > >Techno used to have some balls. > >People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and > admiration >of what the dj was capable of doing. > >We have gone soft, the audience are in control. They know all the > tricks >and are no longer impressed by the pony you show. > >/ > >At least there is some controversy surrounding Carl. > >Where are the risky artist? What I see is alot of very consumable > photo >friendly dj's with great portfolios. > >I'm not after a revolution, I just want some content. Some substance > that >will evoke some response from my co modified life. > >/ > >These kinds of arguments, always de-volove into standard practice > models >for assessing popular music. > >Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology > to >to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. > >I don't wish to establish some sort of elitism. However I think there > is >inherent value in asserting some form of conciousness with the music. > >I can let my hair down every night of the week to any number of djs. > >Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? > > > .simon > > ForwardSourceID:NT0001B7DA
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all words well spoken! kong for king If you don't say it ' it doesn't happen. I've got more you can read, but it starts to sound like one man with a big trumpet. Also .. I thought I should point out that the last time Carl Craig played in NZ . was 1998. Between then and now the I can count the number of Techno Artists who have come to perform here on one hand. Often they play in the main centers. I don't currnely live in the main center. My physical connection to the muisc, is limited and sparse. So I have alot more time to think about it, than dance to it. And to provide more perspective' I have been siting in a Insurance & Finance conference for three days, surfing a high speed wireless connection for free. Currently I am in control about about NZ$60'000 worth of Audio viusal equipment. My primary activity for the day is to turn the lectern microphone up and down! (Challenging!!!) Boredom / unsated passion + 313 = diatribe http://www.kongisking.net/index.shtml
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all words well spoken! kong for king Nomorewords.net http://nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands phn +31-64-499-2027 fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: "Simon Kong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FW: (313) Carl Craig ' good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. We have gone soft, the audience are in control. They know all the tricks and are no longer impressed by the pony you show. / At least there is some controversy surrounding Carl. Where are the risky artist? What I see is alot of very consumable photo friendly dj's with great portfolios. I'm not after a revolution, I just want some content. Some substance that will evoke some response from my co modified life. / These kinds of arguments, always de-volove into standard practice models for assessing popular music. Techno music in its origins was about futurism. Using new technology to to express new ideas and explore new paradigms. I don't wish to establish some sort of elitism. However I think there is inherent value in asserting some form of conciousness with the music. I can let my hair down every night of the week to any number of djs. Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? .simon
