RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads kames www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 18/04/05 08:21 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK Well don't forget the Heaven 17 side-project British Electric Foundation. I think they had a couple of LPs on which they collaborated with famous singers of the times. For obscure: check out Kissing the Pink. This also reminds me of Vicious Pink Phenomena (if you can still find stuff by them?!) The The. Amazing ostensibly non-commercial stuff, which charted quite often! Blancmange, Soft Cell (of course) Talk Talk. Hmmm: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. You probably know of course but Propaganda oughtn't to be left out from the above either. garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties ForwardSourceID:NT0001D46E
Re: (313) iPod DJ
Actually Carl is all on laptop now. dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
Richard X put out a demo of the League's v early stuff on CD. You'd never guess but he financed it. Also The Chaffeur by Duran Duran and their first LP, v underrated, and Arcadia and Propaganda (more industrial) and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads
Re: (313) iPod DJ
He wasn't in Sydney recently. His set was a combination of laptop and vinyl. Cyclone Wehner wrote: Actually Carl is all on laptop now. dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
(313) Omar-S Just Ask The Lonely LP
Available on vinyl finally for you vinyl junkies! http://emporium50.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=LP-AOS -005_OMAR-S-5500Category_Code=FXHE No one speaking about the upcoming Motor City Music Conference? www.big50entertainment.com www.emporium50.com
RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
If you don't get anything else by them, make sure you get 'Open Your Heart', I say. K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 02:03 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313 Detroit; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please do you have the dignity of labour by the human league? makers of the dead travel fast thought criminals (first album 'you only think twice) early severed heads kames www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 18/04/05 08:21 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please listening: Yazoo - Only You eating: my bottom lip drinking: tea thinking: Vince Clarke is a genius (and wondering why it's not time to go home yet) send me suggestions for more strangely cold and detached synth-pop please (I've got the usual suspects: BEF/early Heaven 17, Depeche Mode, Ultravox, early Human League OMD, Pet Shop Boys, etc.) any interesting side projects that seemed to fly under the radar? solo careers worth checking out? MEK Well don't forget the Heaven 17 side-project British Electric Foundation. I think they had a couple of LPs on which they collaborated with famous singers of the times. For obscure: check out Kissing the Pink. This also reminds me of Vicious Pink Phenomena (if you can still find stuff by them?!) The The. Amazing ostensibly non-commercial stuff, which charted quite often! Blancmange, Soft Cell (of course) Talk Talk. Hmmm: Japan?!? (Especially 'European Son' LP. You probably know of course but Propaganda oughtn't to be left out from the above either. garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 04/15/05 02:45 PM 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ listening: Bola - Gnayse eating: rice/chicken/tomato/cheeze/salsa bowl drinking: water... too much caffeine already today thinking: need to hire someone for ripping, warping, discogs catalogging duties ForwardSourceID:NT0001D46E
(313) Just for fun !!!
Sorry for spam ! Tuesday 19 th April Teknology Online 'All the day' Mixes from April playlist + surprises http://teknology.free.fr http://teknology.no-ip.org/listen.pls -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://wildtek.blogspot.com http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
(313) this week i've been mostly listening to . . . . .
marco passarani's remix of booka shade on get physical. the man just gets better at refining his sound.
Re: (313) this week i've been mostly listening to . . . . .
Woody Mcbride - The Machine on loop, lovely track with some deep machine resonance - loving it marco passarani's remix of booka shade on get physical. the man just gets better at refining his sound.
(313) Just a mood - a housey mix for toooosday
In a bit of a housey mood this week. http://www.acidmixes.com/justamood.zip http://www.uk-dance.org/click?url=http://www.acidmixes.com/justamood.zip as with all my mixes, please just rename it justamood.mp3, DO NOT TRY TO UNCOMPRESS IT.(you'll be amazed at the number of people who cannot perform this simple task) @192kbps - 87 MB Tracks DJ MFR Vincent Kwok - Come to me - Bluem Aquanote - True Love - Naked Mountain Nights - The Lost Dubs - Totem Music Outlaw Soundworx - Out - Dance Tracks Studio Blue - Just a Mood - Glasgow Underground Nick Holder - Erotic Illusion - Strobe Kenny Hawkes - Sleaze Walking - Brique Rouge Acid Burns Vol 1 - Molecular Funk Mark Clement - The Tunnel - Resolution World Peace - 78/Eleven - Blade to the Rhythm Vortex - Destiny - DJ Tool Wamdue Production - Studies in Form - Sensuist Enjoy p
(313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order?
Re: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
Hes not been online for the last couple of days Jurren (that I have noticed anyway). The couple of reports on LD are very positive - perhaps he is working on another imaginative way to compile his tracklisting for the night (by year released, ascending by catalogue number etc etc;-)) cheers BT --- jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order?
RE: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
He certainly put a show on - ;-) It was an excellent party - great music from Alex and Jochem - more than made up for my foiled mission to Tresor -Original Message- From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 13:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154 Hes not been online for the last couple of days Jurren (that I have noticed anyway). The couple of reports on LD are very positive - perhaps he is working on another imaginative way to compile his tracklisting for the night (by year released, ascending by catalogue number etc etc;-)) cheers BT --- jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
jurren, alex has been ill the past few days with a bad cold and a broken a**e (see fridays emails :) ) i'll bug him about playlists tonite and see if he can remember anything. robin... David Beattie wrote: Hes not been online for the last couple of days Jurren (that I have noticed anyway). The couple of reports on LD are very positive - perhaps he is working on another imaginative way to compile his tracklisting for the night (by year released, ascending by catalogue number etc etc;-)) cheers BT --- jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order?
RE: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
my foiled mission to Tresor So did they really NOT let you across the border or what? Suckin'. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
RE: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
Nope - they didn't even let me on the plane - passport too damaged :-( The photo was all shrunke and coming away from the card. At least I had a nice trip to the airport -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 13:44 To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154 my foiled mission to Tresor So did they really NOT let you across the border or what? Suckin'. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154
I and quite a few other people enjoyed Flashpoint but attendance took a hit due to a large chunk of the London contingent being away at The Last Party On Earth, (or was it just the last Tresor party before the Wertheimer's got their vault back?! ;-). Also, there was Pheek and Dan's Iality dub/disco/funk night. Alex played perhaps the most unique set I've heard at Flashpoint with many beautiful and beautifully chosen grooves, beautifully rendered (via Alex's much-loved Ableton) into a mid-tempo housey, set. Really sweetly done. One of those sets that make you want more. Ross 154 was similarly eclectic and somewhat more slamming. Lots of stuff I didn't recognize but he really seemed to switch the mood up a gear so that even though the place was only half full (and it had to almost close an hour early) it really didn't seem to be a problem at that point. Was that a Green Velvet track at the end? An approachable chap too, I discovered afterwards. Well done all round Flushpoint folks. I hope you haven't flushed your final flush. Only caught the last hour and a half of Dan's set at the other end of the world (Stoke Newington) but what an amazing atmosphere! Very wide ranging dub, funk, soul disco and house from the entire crew. But I was in my element at the end when I jammed in the ear plugs and stood by the speaker for the final bass excesses! At some point I hope to find out about the minutiae of Mr Bean's wonderful set. Run was nearby, with Pheek live: I stayed for about 10 mins, although the music might have been enjoyable if it hadn't seemed so disorganised in there. -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 14:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154 So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. has alex allready posted his playlist in alphabetical order?
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
(313) Tresor
-Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 14:30 Subject: (313) London party last saturday with The Pikey and the 154 So being on digest i'm always a bit behind on the discussion, but i haven't seen any reports on this little party yet. Yeah and how about a report from Tresor's final meltdown?
Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please
my favorite Flock of Seagulls tune, if you can call it that, would be 2:30 off of Listen. Just sort of crunchy atmospheric sound efx. by the way - thanks everyone for all the suggestions! MEK Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Cyclone Wehner 04/19/05 08:53 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) iPod DJ - more synth-pop please On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: and, ahem, A Flock Of Seagulls, just to be funny. Wishing (if i had a photograph of you) is an absolute classic... not even in a yeah, weren't the 80's silly way. It's genius. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
(313) (OT) Yellorange website closed
just a message on the website : Yellorange.com is officially closed. Thank you for the many years of support Someone knows much more about this close? I found nothing on the web. Tom http://www.pulsation.com
(313) HB on spectral
Hey! the heiroglyphic on klang... Any reactions? It's not my favorite by him but it's one of those records that I heard and didn't think much of the arp patterns (thinking technical like) nice, but not, you know... Well not WHOO HOO! Anyhow. But I've listened to it a few more times and around the third listen I really opened up to the sounds on dos. They all still sound a little lacking in direction though (except Galaxy, that ish is swt). Like really lacking in direction. Not sure if I'm just being flaky or high or what. I've never been one to jockride just cause someones hot right now (and he IS hot right now). So I guess I'll just let it happen if it's supposed to. Anyone with opinions? And speaking of the being, the liquid sex ep joint on spectral is FXCKIN BANANAS! Lost in translation is a banger of deepness (the whispers...oh wow). The original of liquid sex isn't really my cup 'o tea, but the portable mix moves like a freight train full of future bass. There's another track about dreams or something, I've dreamt better. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
Re: (313) Omar-S Just Ask The Lonely LP
-- Original Message -- From: Big 50 Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] Available on vinyl finally for you vinyl junkies! already ordered my double copies last night :) cant wait to play the title track and a victim out i love omar-s' stuff. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) HB on spectral
Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Hey! the heiroglyphic on klang... Any reactions? It's not my favorite by him but it's one of those records that I heard and didn't think much of the arp patterns (thinking technical like) nice, but not, you know... Well not WHOO HOO! Anyhow. But I've listened to it a few more times and around the third listen I really opened up to the sounds on dos. They all still sound a little lacking in direction though (except Galaxy, that ish is swt) . Like really lacking in direction. Not sure if I'm just being flaky or high or what. I've never been one to jockride just cause someones hot right now (and he IS hot right now). So I guess I'll just let it happen if it's supposed to. Anyone with opinions? yeah that 12 is a little abstract for me in parts but DOS and galaxy are the ones i'm digging. they are defo tracks that take some getting used to tho. quick listens in shops and clips online don't do his stuff much justice And speaking of the being, the liquid sex ep joint on spectral is FXCKIN BANANAS! Lost in translation is a banger of deepness (the whispers...oh wow). The original of liquid sex isn't really my cup 'o tea, but the portable mix moves like a freight train full of future bass. There's another track about dreams or something, I've dreamt better. the Portable mix on that is the one i like too. the thing with HB is that if you'd told me i'd be liking this kinda thing a year ago i'd have looked at you sideways but it seems to have the same kind of out of control/random sound that acid house did when i first heard it. robin...
(313) arne weinberg nightflight mix
im like a little like late like -- diggin this mix arne!!! is it mirrored anywhere online?? i see you took it down but i wanna point some friends to it :) or hey do a new one nownownow hahahaha jt ps kamal where the tracks at gimme gimme
RE: (313) HB on spectral
yeah that 12 is a little abstract for me in parts but DOS and galaxy are the ones i'm digging. they are defo tracks that take some getting used to tho. quick listens in shops and clips online don't do his stuff much justice So true. the Portable mix on that is the one i like too. Hot hot hot! the thing with HB is that if you'd told me i'd be liking this kinda thing a year ago i'd have looked at you sideways but it seems to have the same kind of out of control/random sound that acid house did when i first heard it. I didn't really know how to articulate it, but that's the same effect it had on me. Reminds me of the real raw, jacked out, spin around freekiness that chicago was known for in the early days. I think the spectral guys put it best: ...Hieroglyphic Being proves once again, without doubt, that the future of the Chicago sound is in good hands. Exactly. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
RE: (313) HB on spectral
-- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't really know how to articulate it, but that's the same effect it had on me. Reminds me of the real raw, jacked out, spin around freekiness that chicago was known for in the early days. i havent picked up any of the jamal moss stuff, despite at least kinda digging some of the joints on each record. i feel like omar-s is doing the chicago style minimal jacking weirdo joints much better. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) HB on spectral
the thing with HB is that if you'd told me i'd be liking this kinda thing a year ago i'd have looked at you sideways but it seems to have the same kind of out of control/random sound that acid house did when i first heard it. Funny. I remember around 2001 when the first Dirty Criminalz single was coming out on Gigolo, I was at Weekend Records in Chicago and Traxx was in there playing some 20 minute unedited CD-R track that he and Jamal made of far-out abstract 303 madness. I remember having a rather confused reaction and wondering if anyone would really like that stuff at all. But shortly after when the first couple Mathematics 12s started coming out, it was sounding really nice in an edited/finished form- mental, but not so out of control that you can't mix with it. I've been pushing his stuff ever since :) pete
(313) What's happening in Prague?
Hi everyone, I'm off to Prague next Friday- any suggestions for good places to drink/eat/shop/go out etc etc etc?? many thanks Jason
Re: (313) Omar-S Just Ask The Lonely LP
something worth noting regarding the mcmc, would be the upcoming speedy J live PA at the masonic temple fountain ballrooms on saturday april 23rd. its a paxahau event, so get more info etc at www.paxahau.com -Joe - Original Message - From: Big 50 Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Discussion List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:56 AM Subject: (313) Omar-S Just Ask The Lonely LP Available on vinyl finally for you vinyl junkies! http://emporium50.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=LP-AOS -005_OMAR-S-5500Category_Code=FXHE No one speaking about the upcoming Motor City Music Conference? www.big50entertainment.com www.emporium50.com
Re: (313) What's happening in Prague?
Jason, I bought my first two non-gabber records (in the year 2000) in the Disko Duck store in Prague (http://www.diskoduck.cz/index_eng.php) on a school trip: Laurent Garnier - Unreasonable Behaviour (F-com) 2x12 Jeff Mills - If/Tango (PM 009) 12 I allready sold bought of them, although I still own the laurant garnier album on CD. I like it, but don't play it out, so I don't need it on vinyl. Can't judge if they had a good stock back then, because LG and JM were the only names I recognized :-) Cheers, Maarten
RE: (313) HB on spectral
Nh duude. Not even. Omar's stuff is cool. And when he does it he DOES IT. But (especially lately) I've felt he was cashing in on the detroit hype to a degree by getting by with sub par mixdowns (his ideas are always there, just the execution...) no mastering, and general inconsistency in his production quality. The fact that more than a few of his tunes are literally unplayable behind a properly mastered track without losing TONS of frequencies put me off more than one of his records. On the subject of the LP, I think the lp is an almost perfect culling of the tracks from the cd. If only they would've ditched striders world (much better bleepy stuff about with more concept and atmosphere cough hieroglyphic cough) and I love you alex (obviously unmastered and waay overdriven bass to the point of obscuring other frequencies=mud) and replaced them with 100% house and out of control . That would be sublime. I'm buying the album by the way. And I'm a big fan.! Just want him bringing his A game if I'm spending my dough. Nahmeen? To be honest though, I really shouldn't compare them dudes as they're sooo different in approach and concept that it's almost a disservice to both. I think they both are excellent artists each in their own right, but I've never failed to buy a HB track I liked. I've passed on plenty of Omars stuff that I really liked, 'cause I couldn't bring myself to pay for such crappy sonics. There's the difference. (hope I'm not being too blunt and sounding like a hater 'cause it's not like that) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HB on spectral -- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't really know how to articulate it, but that's the same effect it had on me. Reminds me of the real raw, jacked out, spin around freekiness that chicago was known for in the early days. i havent picked up any of the jamal moss stuff, despite at least kinda digging some of the joints on each record. i feel like omar-s is doing the chicago style minimal jacking weirdo joints much better. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) HB on spectral
Oh! And track #8. then it would be perfect! Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HB on spectral Nh duude. Not even. Omar's stuff is cool. And when he does it he DOES IT. But (especially lately) I've felt he was cashing in on the detroit hype to a degree by getting by with sub par mixdowns (his ideas are always there, just the execution...) no mastering, and general inconsistency in his production quality. The fact that more than a few of his tunes are literally unplayable behind a properly mastered track without losing TONS of frequencies put me off more than one of his records. On the subject of the LP, I think the lp is an almost perfect culling of the tracks from the cd. If only they would've ditched striders world (much better bleepy stuff about with more concept and atmosphere cough hieroglyphic cough) and I love you alex (obviously unmastered and waay overdriven bass to the point of obscuring other frequencies=mud) and replaced them with 100% house and out of control . That would be sublime. I'm buying the album by the way. And I'm a big fan.! Just want him bringing his A game if I'm spending my dough. Nahmeen? To be honest though, I really shouldn't compare them dudes as they're sooo different in approach and concept that it's almost a disservice to both. I think they both are excellent artists each in their own right, but I've never failed to buy a HB track I liked. I've passed on plenty of Omars stuff that I really liked, 'cause I couldn't bring myself to pay for such crappy sonics. There's the difference. (hope I'm not being too blunt and sounding like a hater 'cause it's not like that) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HB on spectral -- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't really know how to articulate it, but that's the same effect it had on me. Reminds me of the real raw, jacked out, spin around freekiness that chicago was known for in the early days. i havent picked up any of the jamal moss stuff, despite at least kinda digging some of the joints on each record. i feel like omar-s is doing the chicago style minimal jacking weirdo joints much better. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) HB on spectral
-- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nh duude. Not even. Omar's stuff is cool. And when he does it he DOES IT. But (especially lately) I've felt he was cashing in on the detroit hype to a degree by getting by with sub par mixdowns (his ideas are always there, just the execution...) no mastering, and general inconsistency in his production quality. i mean those old trax records arent renouned for their mixdowns, thats for sure! now that you mention it, the low-fi ness of his production values might be one of the reasons i feel like its so much more like the old chicago stuff than the JM stuff. Just want him bringing his A game if I'm spending my dough. Nahmeen? To be honest though, I really shouldn't compare them dudes as they're sooo different in approach and concept that it's almost a disservice to both. im not saying that theyre similar, only that the reasons you stated for liking the JM stuff are similar to the reasons i like the omar-s stuff. i will say that i feel like there's more meandering in the JM records ive heard (not heard them all i dont think) than in the omar stuff. (hope I'm not being too blunt and sounding like a hater 'cause it's not like that) naw not at all. BTW track #8 is out on 12 and has been for a couple months now. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) HB on spectral
i mean those old trax records arent renouned for their mixdowns, thats for sure! now that you mention it, the low-fi ness of his production values might be one of the reasons i feel like its so much more like the old chicago stuff than the JM stuff. Good point. Really the thing I think I hate the most is the lack of bass control. Sometimes the kicks are almost drowned by the bassline and other times it's soo loud you can hear the machines doing their best to just compress the fxck out of it in compensation. As a result of the overcompression, the bass frequencies end up feeling hollow and muddy. But I'm anal about that and still fight with bass control on my own stuff sooo im not saying that theyre similar, only that the reasons you stated for liking the JM stuff are similar to the reasons i like the omar-s stuff. Oh. Okay. Yeah that makes sense and is pretty much true with me too. BTW track #8 is out on 12 and has been for a couple months now. Yeah I know, I was holding out on it cause I was hoping it would be on the vinyl lp and I could get them all at once. No such luck. I've got a secret hole in my closet that, if I stick my hand in and say the magic words, I can pull my hand out with a copy of the 12. hope that thing still works. :) And NO alex, you do not have to be nude to use the closet. And we'd prefer if you didn't put that thing on your head either. :) (get well soon, I'm sending you some charmin to wrap around your butt.) Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HB on spectral -- Original Message -- From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nh duude. Not even. Omar's stuff is cool. And when he does it he DOES IT. But (especially lately) I've felt he was cashing in on the detroit hype to a degree by getting by with sub par mixdowns (his ideas are always there, just the execution...) no mastering, and general inconsistency in his production quality. Just want him bringing his A game if I'm spending my dough. Nahmeen? To be honest though, I really shouldn't compare them dudes as they're sooo different in approach and concept that it's almost a disservice to both. i will say that i feel like there's more meandering in the JM records ive heard (not heard them all i dont think) than in the omar stuff. (hope I'm not being too blunt and sounding like a hater 'cause it's not like that) naw not at all. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) New Rikkids
How's that lawrence? Is it the same guy from dial recs? Is it out yet? I can't find clips. I like his lush stuff. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:18 AM To: 313 Org Subject: (313) New Rikkids New Stuff Afx - Analord 6 Woody McBride - The Machine Lawrence - Swap Four Tet - Everything Ecstatic Martin
Re: (313) New Rikkids
How's that lawrence? Is it the same guy from dial recs? Is it out yet? I can't find clips. I like his lush stuff. Don't know anything about it or him K, out on Novamute I think - no info apart from name and tracks... Martin
