(313) how lowbrow can you go?

2005-06-27 Thread Philip

last night whilst watching big brother on primetime commercial TV here in
australia there were repeated advertisements for mobile phone ringtones. the
ad listed 5 popular tones, the 5th of which was STRINGS OF LIFE BY SOUL
CENTRAL. it's time to clean up guys ! ! ! !

non-313 content: on a long 275k drive home last night I listened to the
mindblowing genius that is 'everyday' by the cinematic orchestra. if you're
into jazz or hip hop you should check out this amazing album, actually make
that if you're into music, period. basically it just sh*ts all over
everything else.

philski   






Re: (313) MeatBeat Manifesto?

2005-06-27 Thread darnistle

Ian Malbon wrote:

Did anyone here hit the show at St. Andrews?  Other events (and local  
effects of global warming) kept me from going.  Is a brief review  
possible?




I thought it was a fun show.  Not as energetic as the last time I saw 
them, but no matter.  Its always a pleasure to hear music like that on a 
large soundsystem.


The more breaks-oriented tracks didn't seem to have enough propulsion to 
them, compared to some of the dubbier or more technoesque tracks.  Based 
on the crowd reaction, I'd wager many of them felt similarly since the 
dancing seemed to taper off during those tracks, though I danced the 
entire time.


Hearing "House of God" was quite a treat!!!

One of my fave points in the show was the section where the guy on the 
cover of  "Halloween Dub" was in the video walking down a hallway and 
the music got really heavy and creepy!!  Oohh YES Bring on dem 
hoodoo riddims!!!


The videos were truly excellent and coordinated well with the music.  It 
was actually quite fun to see where a lot of their samples come from.   
Pity their video equipment couldn't take the heat.


At the show they were selling CDs by Pistel Dub Collective, who I'd 
never heard of before.  I bought it with the assumption that if they're 
affiliated with MBM, the music would be interesting if nothing else.  
I've listened to it a few times and like it quite a bit.  It isn't as 
developed as MBM, but its better than average.  I'd be curious to hear 
what else they've done.






Re: (313) New House Records?

2005-06-27 Thread james . hurlbut
I haven't been out to the store for a few weeks, but I'm bored at work so here 
are some new records that I've noticed online. Nothing too mind blowing.

Kerri Chandler "Return 2 acid" Large Records 
Ok, the acid revival may officially be over now. nothing too original: well 
done acid with chords. This one is a somewhat trendy ode to acid: "So tell me, 
when was the first time you heard acid? ... maybe at some dark club in 
Detroit". On the flip is a somewhat uninspired Planet Rock knockoff. 

The Reese Project featuring Paul Randolph "This means that" SuSu 
Strong bluesy piano and beautiful vocals. Not really bleepy at all and not 
really 2am material but a strong song and it's 313 relevant.

Ron Trent "Dub life" Atal Records
A spacey 2am track. not bleepy but trademark ron trent spiritual dub action 
with foggy hammonds.

Goapele "Got it" (Charles Spencer & Capitol A Remix)
Gotta give it up for the locals. Very nice low key dub of this oakland based 
songstress. simple washed out chords, a bassline, and simple african influenced 
house beats underneath Goapele's beautiful voice. kinda minimal like deep4life 
but not bleepy and more melodic.

Not new, but the KDJ on Moods and Grooves seems like the perfect 3am house 
track to me.




Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Was attempting a mix last night and either I haven't unpacked all my house
> records or they're getting old.
> So, what's new that is deep and good.  Anything on the bleepier or
> Deep4Life side is good.
> Also, looking for good vocals that are talking 'bout loove.  Nothing
> too wailing.
> Looking for the 3-5AM sounds.
> 
> Need a few irresistible basslines too.
> 
> MEK
> 
> 




Re: (313) OT: Photoshop/MS Paint Nike and other evil corporations ruining famous album covers

2005-06-27 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, Greg Earle wrote:


Hilarious stuff ... great lunchtime reading!


Funn-e! Also great for late evening snacks :-)


http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=5942033#unread


I liked the AFX grin the best.

--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--



(313) OT: Photoshop/MS Paint Nike and other evil corporations ruining famous album covers

2005-06-27 Thread Greg Earle

Hilarious stuff ... great lunchtime reading!

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=5942033#unread

Ob313: There are Funkadelic, Marvin Gaye and Stooges covers "enhanced" 
in there.


- Greg



FW: (313) Re: legit mp3 downloads

2005-06-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message-
> From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 24 June 2005 18:30
> 
> > obviously.  if you're doing a CD and record, you have to 
> master your 
> > tracks twice, because mastering to CD and vinyl are two vastly 
> > different things.  in this way, I prefer digital, because you're 
> > having to master your way around the limitations of the vinyl
> 
> that's true joe, i think people like the way that sounds 
> though. that's why people say "oooh i love the way vinyl 
> sounds all warm" and such (myself included :) ).
> 
> robin...

research (some we've done at my place of work included) has shown this to be
very much the case and lots of what people perceive as being the "harsher"
sound of digital just being the highs still present that vinyl leaves out.



Re: (313) UR at fuse in download

2005-06-27 Thread Martin Dust

Wicked, thanks for sharing

Martin

On 27 Jun 2005, at 17:05, Thomas van Steen. wrote:



and Live @ Fuse-In 2005 :


* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117335129.mp3 : Aril Brikha Live




Re: (313) UR at fuse in download

2005-06-27 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
I think you got your names mixed up, unless i missed some essential  
techno history where Aril Brikha wrote Alleys of your minds and  
Cosmic Cars and where Aux 88 switched to deephouse, the names aren't  
correct...


KJ



On 27-jun-2005, at 18:05, Thomas van Steen. wrote:



and Live @ Fuse-In 2005 :


* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117335129.mp3 : Aril Brikha Live

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117403514.mp3 : Scan 7-1

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117407114.mp3 : Scan 7-2

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117410713.mp3 : Buzz goree

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117414312.mp3 : Aux88-1

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117417911.mp3 : Aux88-2

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117425110.mp3 : Model 500

* ]http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117428709.mp3 : Kevin Saunderson

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117493495.mp3 : Blake Baxter

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117497094.mp3 : Kenny Larkin

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117500693.mp3 : Octave One

and check the folder : http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/;)






Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread james . hurlbut
The confusion about normalization is probably because many audio editors have 
two options for normalization (Sound forge for example), one based on peak 
value and one called RMS which applies compression to make the signal all at a 
maximum level.

In terms of recording your vinyl, I would recommend skipping out on the 
amplifier altogether and investing in a turntable with digital outs (I use the 
Numark TTX with a white label needle and I think the results are great) and a 
sound card with digital ins. That will get you the cleanest possible signal. 
Just make sure the digital to analog converters are good on the card and table 
you get.


Quoting Jari Tolkkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, ha wrote:
> 
> >> 
> > this would be compression, not normalizing afaik
> > normalizing conserves the ratio/dynamics of different frequencies. it just
> 
> > increases volume so that the loudest peak is still just below the clipping
> 
> > level. afaik again.
> 
> Yes that's what I've thought always. In sense normalization is "safe" when 
> it comes to processing sounds. It doesn't alter the way something sounds, 
> it just alters how much something sounds.
> 
> IANASE (I am not a sound engineer)
> 
> --
> Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
> --
> 
> 




Re: (313) UR at fuse in download

2005-06-27 Thread Thomas van Steen.


and Live @ Fuse-In 2005 :


* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117335129.mp3 : Aril Brikha Live

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117403514.mp3 : Scan 7-1

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117407114.mp3 : Scan 7-2

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117410713.mp3 : Buzz goree

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117414312.mp3 : Aux88-1

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117417911.mp3 : Aux88-2

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117425110.mp3 : Model 500

* ]http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117428709.mp3 : Kevin Saunderson

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117493495.mp3 : Blake Baxter

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117497094.mp3 : Kenny Larkin

* http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/t1117500693.mp3 : Octave One

and check the folder : http://137.207.3.102/mp3log/;)



Re: (313) New House Records?

2005-06-27 Thread TOKOMAK
Hi Michael,

i guess i got something for u, the thing is called MOJUBA records and its
first release is coming out next weeks, hopefully somewhere in July ... I
will let you know asap. Already heard it, dam deep! Testpressings are on the
way!

Best Don


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Was attempting a mix last night and either I haven't unpacked all my house
records or they're getting old.
So, what's new that is deep and good.  Anything on the bleepier or
Deep4Life side is good.
Also, looking for good vocals that are talking 'bout loove.  Nothing
too wailing.
Looking for the 3-5AM sounds.

Need a few irresistible basslines too.

MEK



(313) New House Records?

2005-06-27 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Was attempting a mix last night and either I haven't unpacked all my house
records or they're getting old.
So, what's new that is deep and good.  Anything on the bleepier or
Deep4Life side is good.
Also, looking for good vocals that are talking 'bout loove.  Nothing
too wailing.
Looking for the 3-5AM sounds.

Need a few irresistible basslines too.

MEK



Re: (313) JACEN SOLO LIVE (LONG)

2005-06-27 Thread therealmxyzptlk
I would have loved to have seen that one. I'm a huge fan of all of the Aio 
stuff and his material rises to the top IMO.

jeff


> Well I feel compelled to tell you about Jacen Solo's live performance at
> the Bleep43 event on Saturday
> 


Re: (313) JACEN SOLO LIVE (LONG)

2005-06-27 Thread Martin Dust

Great report Ken, cheers

On 27 Jun 2005, at 14:40, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

Well I feel compelled to tell you about Jacen Solo's live performance 
at

the Bleep43 event on Saturday. 




Re: (313) MeatBeat Manifesto?

2005-06-27 Thread matt kane's brain

At 10:09 AM 6/27/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David King - member of Happy Apple/The Bad Plus


I am DOUBLY excited now!

Looks like he's also in the band Halloween Alaska: 
http://www.halloweenalaska.com/

--
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Re: (313) MeatBeat Manifesto?

2005-06-27 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




>Ben Stokes video jockeying clips
>of various drummers 'battling' against their drummer (can't recall his
>name)

David King - member of Happy Apple/The Bad Plus


MEK


   
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Ian Malbon wrote:

> Did anyone here hit the show at St. Andrews?  Other events (and local
> effects of global warming) kept me from going.  Is a brief review
> possible?
>
As one would expect, it was crazy hot/humid in there - thankfully it
wasn't packed to the gills, so there wasn't as much smoke to choke on
while being cooked.
Jack and company were very good, although I would say that the rave
reviews I've read about this tour have been written by hardcore fans for
the most part.
The problem with the live shows is that the 'sameness' of the records
quite naturally makes a 2 hour + show a bit redundant at times. MBM,
Tinocorp and Dangers' music is all about laying down a groove and
working it - when it clicks, it really clicks. The show had some very
high points; for me those moments came when there were sufficient bleeps
and chord shifts to vary the mix. I prefer it when the mix moves closer
to dub, techno or jazz than when it is so breaks laden, which is often
what Dangers does. When the balnce tips towards the more techno aspects,
the crowd seemed more into it and it was stunning. Even though this
sounds rather negative thus far, I'm sort of giving the bad news first -
I would not have missed it. One of the more interesting aspects was how
integral the video clips are to all of the songs. Every sample you hear
on the records is presented via video sources on two large screens at
the rear of the stage. It actually apprears as though the songs begin
with video sources. I was amazed at how much footage they had - great
kitsch sci-fi, ancient robot stuff, kung fu, horror - stock footage, you
name it (a very nice shot of the bomb riding scene in Dr. Strangelove
with Bush cut back and forth)...all video scratched live and very
interactve. They also had live drums triggering samples and the drummer
was top flight. One sequence featured Ben Stokes video jockeying clips
of various drummers 'battling' against their drummer (can't recall his
name) and he can hold his own. Another thing - this was a live show.
Racks and racks of gear.
The problem at St. Andrews is usually about the heat. It was so hot
in there that the vid projectors kept overheating and shutting down,
needing to be reset. First one, then the other, then both, and the cycle
kept repeating. I have seen it worse in there and it wasn't as bad as
I'd expectd it. I think MBM rolled on about 10 and were offstage about
12:15, so it ended at a decent hour for the sleep deprived set.


 jeff





(313) JACEN SOLO LIVE (LONG)

2005-06-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Well I feel compelled to tell you about Jacen Solo's live performance at
the Bleep43 event on Saturday.

I can honestly say that Jacen's set, was the best Ableton set I've ever
heard. Scion, Vince Watson, Monolake, whoever, forget what you've seen
them do with the package: if Jacen ever comes anywhere near your town
I'd strongly advise that you try to hear him play, because his
performance will be a demonstration of how it should really be done,
imo.

So far, Jacen is very 'new' on the electronic music scene so it's
probable that most people have either barely or never heard about him.

Some may know of his EP on Ai records a few months ago. 

http://www.discogs.com/release/334919

An LP was also released on the same label a few days ago.

http://www.discogs.com/release/475759

I vaguely recognised some material he played from the EP, but I haven't
heard the LP.

In any case, it didn't really matter. You just realize how loosely based
on a live performance, actual releases often are.

We all know that when we hear so-and-so's using 'Ableton live', we are
often in for a performance in which the only live element is the human
being operating it (at best!). In Jacen's case, it was obvious that he
was not just tweaking eq and filter assignments on the controller, he
was actively constructing tracks made up of pre-programmed elements,
including loops *and* sounds (like pads) on the fly, reacting to crowd
responses and working the floor just like a good dj should - only it was
living up to the promise of Ableton in that it was melding some of the
benefits of djing, i.e., using pre-played material, but it was also
live, in that it used the facility to construct songs in a way which was
quite novel for each performance.

As for the music itself, think huge, spacey arcs of resonant synths,
manic 808-alike electro, but also some mid-tempo stuff with beautifully
constructed, almost R' n' B-type rhythms, with deep, deep twists and
turns. What can I say? The whole thing was very very impressive.

One interesting thing I realized about Ableton: (might be obvious to
some of you) distortion has been abolished! Unless you want it I guess.
There was some very unfeasible mixing of elements yet, there was no
inadvertent clipping and the stereo picture remained amazingly detailed
and clear, with mix characteristics (like reverb, audio effects etc)
very pure and present. For instance I remember one song where the pad
sound was so loud, and had some sort of pre-echo and yet the drop bass
was so full and clean, but you could drive a truck through the space
between those elements! Separation and clarity were deluxe, as they
should be in the artificially-constructed digital realm but are often
not. 


Jacen (aka Doug Adamson) told me that he has recently been booked to
play at First Avenue in Minneapolis (come in Michael Elliott Knight?!)
:-).

M & St Pauls electro heads (and I hear that there is in fact a big
electro scene out there) miss Jacen Solo at your own peril. Just don't
complain to me when he blows up big and perhaps takes his time getting
back there, that I didn't warn you!

I also understand that Doug is in the market for as many gigs as he can
get anywhere, so sharp promoters, book away.  Doug is a down to earth
chap and very easy to get along with, it was a pleasure to work with him
and I think it won't be the last time we do.

*

I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank our stalwart friend
Jonny McIntosh for working his usual
house-disco-and-Chicago-and-whatever magic - I will cheekily reveal in
public that he said to me that he would have no problem in coming back
out of the ivory towers of academia, to play for us again this year! ;-)

Also well done to VLF for their debut live gig which weaved a bewitching
and hypnotic atmosphere at sun down, using nothing more than a bunch of
electribes and some deep concentration.

Ken



Re: Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread /0
hey fab, you're thinking compression.  normalization is the process of applying 
the maximum even amplification to a recording without inducing clipping.
> 
> From: "fab." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/06/27 Mon AM 06:40:37 EDT
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: (313) Recording your records?
> 
> i use a very amateurish setup since i dont have either a mixer nor a 
> "professional" soundcard - i basically jack the amp straight into my laptop.
> on my turntable i have a stanton markII cartridge.
> i ripi using soundforge 6. i used to normalise the levels but then i stopped 
> when i started thinking that the normalisation process flattended all the 
> frequencies to the same level, so now i just fiddle with the gain instead.
> 
> fab.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: (313) Recording your records?
> 
> 
> > this is what i use and i think it's a most basic setup, you shouldn't go 
> > below quality-wise:
> >
> > shure m97xe - very cheap audiophile cartridge & needle. about 90euro
> > 1210
> > hifi amplifier used as a pre-amplifier (phono in -> record out), id never 
> > use a mixer unless you have a bozak or something
> > m-audio audiophile delta 24/94 - also got this based on recommendations, 
> > cheapest way to go at the moment as i've been told (60euro used)
> > no processing except for normalizing in sound forge. i've been told that 
> > normalizing doesn't alter the frequencies at all apart from normalizing
> >
> > so far i'm happy with my recordings but i never play them on big & good 
> > systems so i couldn't even tell if they are top quality
> >
> > ciao
> > armin
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 


Re: (313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread ha

thanks for your input jeff, robin, rc..

so i'll have to check the laws of the individual countries..

not that i expect a raid anyway..


Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread Jari Tolkkinen

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005, ha wrote:




this would be compression, not normalizing afaik
normalizing conserves the ratio/dynamics of different frequencies. it just 
increases volume so that the loudest peak is still just below the clipping 
level. afaik again.


Yes that's what I've thought always. In sense normalization is "safe" when 
it comes to processing sounds. It doesn't alter the way something sounds, 
it just alters how much something sounds.


IANASE (I am not a sound engineer)

--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--



Re: (313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread Edward George
On 6/27/05, theREALmxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > what if i have sold/lost/broken the record in question in the
> > meantime. will i have to produce some sort of proof / documentation

What about if said record isn't commercially available and hasn't been
for a long time?

That was an "acceptable" argument that was used with old computer
games and generally accepted unless the company involved actually
wanted to enforce their copyright and actually write a legal letter to
those providing the downloads involved like nintendo did.

But then it was a bit more of a gray area and people didn't have a bee
in their bonnet about it all like the recording industry has.

Sometimes, i guess, circulated copies help keep the value of a future
pressing up as they don't vanish into obscurity. Plus theres the whole
posterity thing. A lot of video game companies accepted that argument.
except Nintendo, Capcom and a few of the bigger ones. At least that
was my perception of the whole retro game thing.


Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread ha

hi fab.

 i used to normalise the levels but then i stopped when i started 
thinking that the normalisation process flattended all the frequencies 
to the same level, so now i just fiddle with the gain instead.



this would be compression, not normalizing afaik
normalizing conserves the ratio/dynamics of different frequencies. it 
just increases volume so that the loudest peak is still just below the 
clipping level. afaik again.




Re: (313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

ha wrote:



so i'm allowed to make copies for my own use of copyrighted records i 
own/bought.


in case i will be found playing files off of my computer / CD-Rs i 
will have to proof that i own the original record and everything will 
be fine


what if i have sold/lost/broken the record in question in the 
meantime. will i have to produce some sort of proof / documentation 
that i once owned it, or is it illegal altogether to own a 
self-fabricated copy of some copyrighted work if one is not in 
posession of the original *anymore*.


anyone know?

armin


I believe the proof that you own(ed) it is the original artwork which 
acccompanied the release.
While I don't believe the powers-that-be are quite to point of busting 
down doors (yet) and checking to see if those cdrs you have in the 
corner can be matched up with originals in your collection, it is my 
understanding  that in order to be completely legal you have to prove 
current ownership and the above is that proof.



   jeff




Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread fab.
i use a very amateurish setup since i dont have either a mixer nor a 
"professional" soundcard - i basically jack the amp straight into my laptop.

on my turntable i have a stanton markII cartridge.
i ripi using soundforge 6. i used to normalise the levels but then i stopped 
when i started thinking that the normalisation process flattended all the 
frequencies to the same level, so now i just fiddle with the gain instead.


fab.
- Original Message - 
From: "ha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Recording your records?


this is what i use and i think it's a most basic setup, you shouldn't go 
below quality-wise:


shure m97xe - very cheap audiophile cartridge & needle. about 90euro
1210
hifi amplifier used as a pre-amplifier (phono in -> record out), id never 
use a mixer unless you have a bozak or something
m-audio audiophile delta 24/94 - also got this based on recommendations, 
cheapest way to go at the moment as i've been told (60euro used)
no processing except for normalizing in sound forge. i've been told that 
normalizing doesn't alter the frequencies at all apart from normalizing


so far i'm happy with my recordings but i never play them on big & good 
systems so i couldn't even tell if they are top quality


ciao
armin








Re: (313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread Richard Cranston
It depends on the laws of Austria as to whether you can even make a 
back up copy.


Down here in Oz its not technically legal to make copies of 
legitimately purchased sound recordings/musical works onto other 
mediums (what's known as space or format shifting) and it is also an 
infringement of copyright to eg. copy a tv show onto a video cassette 
or hard drive so that one can watch it later (what's known as time 
shifting)


The government is reviewing this at the moment.

In the States however, these types of "fair uses" are legitimate.

There has never been an action brought by a copyright owner against a 
domestic/private infringement of copyright in Australia. I dare say it 
would be the same situation worldwide.


To your question - if push came to shove; firstly you would need to 
establish that Austrian law did in fact enable you to make "fair use"  
copies of legitimately purchased copyright material and then, if you 
had lost the original piece of music you would need to provide evidence 
that you did indeed once own it.






On 27/06/2005, at 7:45 PM, ha wrote:



so i'm allowed to make copies for my own use of copyrighted records i 
own/bought.


in case i will be found playing files off of my computer / CD-Rs i 
will have to proof that i own the original record and everything will 
be fine


what if i have sold/lost/broken the record in question in the 
meantime. will i have to produce some sort of proof / documentation 
that i once owned it, or is it illegal altogether to own a 
self-fabricated copy of some copyrighted work if one is not in 
posession of the original *anymore*.


anyone know?

armin





Re: (313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread robin




people only started worrying about this stuff after they staged that 
"italian dj gets caught playing pirated mp3s" story (yeah i'm deeply 
cynical...sorry)


so technically if they ever did come after you i guess you'd have to 
show em the vinyl and/or the receipts.


i think the law in this respect is different in every country...i don't 
think it's even the same across europe yet.


robin...


so i'm allowed to make copies for my own use of copyrighted records i 
own/bought.


in case i will be found playing files off of my computer / CD-Rs i 
will have to proof that i own the original record and everything will 
be fine


what if i have sold/lost/broken the record in question in the 
meantime. will i have to produce some sort of proof / documentation 
that i once owned it, or is it illegal altogether to own a 
self-fabricated copy of some copyrighted work if one is not in 
posession of the original *anymore*.


anyone know?




(313) Dimitri Pike joins DTM RECON:313

2005-06-27 Thread Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike
Sorry for spam ;-) From Detroit Techno Militia :

Dimitri Pike joins DTM RECON:313

http://detroittechnomilitia.com/main/content/section/24/120/

Detroit Techno Militia is very proud to announce our newest RECON:313 DJ,
Dimitri Pike.

DJ/Producer from Belgium, he play a pure US techno, he has produced for the
legendary label Matrix (Detroit), playing at Tresor (Berlin) and Fuse In
Festival
pre-after party’s (Detroit-EA/DTM). Dimitri's sound is inspired from the deeper
to the harder vibes of techno music.

Download Dimitri's new mix - Memories of a City

http://detroittechnomilitia.com/main/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=63&func=fileinfo&parent=category&filecatid=35

Dimitri runs some of the best detroit techno websites around!

Please visit:
http://wildtek.free.fr
http://teknology.free.fr
http://313tm.blogspot.com

--
Dimitri Pike
http://wildtek.free.fr
http://wildtek.blogspot.com
http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic


(313) Recording your records - legal question?

2005-06-27 Thread ha


so i'm allowed to make copies for my own use of copyrighted records i 
own/bought.


in case i will be found playing files off of my computer / CD-Rs i will 
have to proof that i own the original record and everything will be fine


what if i have sold/lost/broken the record in question in the meantime. 
will i have to produce some sort of proof / documentation that i once 
owned it, or is it illegal altogether to own a self-fabricated copy of 
some copyrighted work if one is not in posession of the original *anymore*.


anyone know?

armin


Re: (313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread ha
this is what i use and i think it's a most basic setup, you shouldn't go 
below quality-wise:


shure m97xe - very cheap audiophile cartridge & needle. about 90euro
1210
hifi amplifier used as a pre-amplifier (phono in -> record out), id 
never use a mixer unless you have a bozak or something
m-audio audiophile delta 24/94 - also got this based on recommendations, 
cheapest way to go at the moment as i've been told (60euro used)
no processing except for normalizing in sound forge. i've been told that 
normalizing doesn't alter the frequencies at all apart from normalizing


so far i'm happy with my recordings but i never play them on big & good 
systems so i couldn't even tell if they are top quality


ciao
armin



Re: (313) MeatBeat Manifesto?

2005-06-27 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

Ian Malbon wrote:

Did anyone here hit the show at St. Andrews?  Other events (and local  
effects of global warming) kept me from going.  Is a brief review  
possible?


As one would expect, it was crazy hot/humid in there - thankfully it 
wasn't packed to the gills, so there wasn't as much smoke to choke on 
while being cooked.
Jack and company were very good, although I would say that the rave 
reviews I've read about this tour have been written by hardcore fans for 
the most part.
The problem with the live shows is that the 'sameness' of the records 
quite naturally makes a 2 hour + show a bit redundant at times. MBM, 
Tinocorp and Dangers' music is all about laying down a groove and 
working it - when it clicks, it really clicks. The show had some very 
high points; for me those moments came when there were sufficient bleeps 
and chord shifts to vary the mix. I prefer it when the mix moves closer 
to dub, techno or jazz than when it is so breaks laden, which is often 
what Dangers does. When the balnce tips towards the more techno aspects, 
the crowd seemed more into it and it was stunning. Even though this 
sounds rather negative thus far, I'm sort of giving the bad news first - 
I would not have missed it. One of the more interesting aspects was how 
integral the video clips are to all of the songs. Every sample you hear 
on the records is presented via video sources on two large screens at 
the rear of the stage. It actually apprears as though the songs begin 
with video sources. I was amazed at how much footage they had - great 
kitsch sci-fi, ancient robot stuff, kung fu, horror - stock footage, you 
name it (a very nice shot of the bomb riding scene in Dr. Strangelove 
with Bush cut back and forth)...all video scratched live and very 
interactve. They also had live drums triggering samples and the drummer 
was top flight. One sequence featured Ben Stokes video jockeying clips 
of various drummers 'battling' against their drummer (can't recall his 
name) and he can hold his own. Another thing - this was a live show. 
Racks and racks of gear.
   The problem at St. Andrews is usually about the heat. It was so hot 
in there that the vid projectors kept overheating and shutting down, 
needing to be reset. First one, then the other, then both, and the cycle 
kept repeating. I have seen it worse in there and it wasn't as bad as 
I'd expectd it. I think MBM rolled on about 10 and were offstage about 
12:15, so it ended at a decent hour for the sleep deprived set.



jeff




Re: (313) mix WNUR chicago - People Make The World Go Round

2005-06-27 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Matt runs a 3 hour set solo from brooding classic soul and Ohio
funk to 
>Detroit/Chicago abstract deep dark house music. Never rushing, 
>expanding outwards to make time for plenty of classics both familiar 
>and obscure. Part 1 is blue mood setting grooves, picking up to a
house 
>tempo for Part 2.

wow, now THAT is what i call a tracklisting. im DLing right now, i
need some sweet sweet soul music like this. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


(313) Recording your records?

2005-06-27 Thread Jari Tolkkinen


Hello everybody.

About backing up your record collection. I'm sure that on this list there 
is more than enough knowledge about sound processing and recording so here 
we go:


1. RIAA - Does just plain old mixer do the trick or should I purchase a 
specific RIAA amplifier (are they called that? ed.)?


2. Technics SL-1200MKII or a Hi-Fi turntable? Rega? Dual?

3. Needle + Cartridge? Ortofon?

4. Soundcard? I currently have a M-Audio Audiophile Delta 24/94 which I 
bought based on recommendation.


5. Software side and processing. What should I do after I've recorded a 
record to my computer. Currently I'm just normalizing every song after 
I've cut&pasted it. What else should I do or should I skip normalizing 
altogether?



My current setup: Sl-1200, old crappy omnitronic mixer (I'm sure I would 
get better sounding result if I replace this (RIAA amplifier??), 
audiophile soundcard and "normal" home computer.


Cheers,

--
Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
--



(313) MeatBeat Manifesto?

2005-06-27 Thread Ian Malbon
Did anyone here hit the show at St. Andrews?  Other events (and local  
effects of global warming) kept me from going.  Is a brief review  
possible?


--
Ian


(313) mix WNUR chicago - People Make The World Go Round

2005-06-27 Thread Matt MacQueen

Clinically Inclined
10 June 2005
Fridays 9:30pm - 12:30am,  89.3 FM WNUR Chicago
http://SonicSunset.com


Matt runs a 3 hour set solo from brooding classic soul and Ohio funk to 
Detroit/Chicago abstract deep dark house music. Never rushing, 
expanding outwards to make time for plenty of classics both familiar 
and obscure. Part 1 is blue mood setting grooves, picking up to a house 
tempo for Part 2.



Prince & The Revolution - Sometimes It Snows In April - Parade (Warner)
The Stylistics - People Make The World Go Round - Best of (Avco)
Maze feat. Frankie Beverly - Joy & Pain - Joy & Pain (Capitol)
Shuggie Otis - Aht Uh Mi Head - Inspiration Information (Luka Bop)
KV:5 - Singers & Carpenters [Instr.] - 12 Cuts of the Pie (Humble)
The Isley Brothers - Summer Breeze - 3+3 (T-Neck)
The Blackbyrds - Hash & Eggs - City Life (Fantasy)
MM Black feat. Roy Ayers - 2000 Black - The Good Good (2000 Black)
Leon Haywood - I Want'a Do Something Freaky To You (20th Century)
Cameo - We All Know Who We Are (Chocolate City)
Linda Clifford - Runaway Love - If My Friends Could See Me Now (Curtom)
George Benson - Give Me The Night (Qwest)
The Mighty Bop - Le Voyage (Yellow)
The Whatnauts - Help Is On The Way (Harlem Intern'l)
3 Chairs - Dance of Nubia (3 Chairs)
JuJu & Jordash - The Hush [Koomba Project remix] (Psychostasia)
Theo Parrish & Marcellus Pitman - African Roots - Essential Selections 
vol. 1 (Sound Signature)
Rick Wilhite - Ruby Nights [Gilb-r Solo Flight remix] - Detroit 
Beatdown remixes i:i (Third Ear)

Bobby Konders House Rhythms - The Poem (Nu Groove)
Noni - Be My [remix] - The Gift EP (Prescription)
Kelley Polar Quartet - Maurizio - The Rococo EP (Environ)
Round Four feat. Tikiman - Find A Way (Main Street Records)
Omar S - For Us All - 003 - (FXHE)
Tikkle - Bubbles [Club mix] (House Jam)
Seven Grand Housing Authority - Spreading Love (Intangible)
1/2 Inch Jack - Red Dragon (1/2 Inch)
Abe Duque feat. Blake Baxter - What Happened? (Duque)
Chip E - Time To Jack (Jack Trax)
Mike Dunn - Life Goes On (Westbrook)
Jesse's Gang - Real Love (Jes Say)
Coco Steel & Lovebomb - Feel It - Influences (Warp)
M5003MB - Cosmic Courier (Metroplex)
Inner City - Good Life [Mayday mix] (KMS)


Archives at http://SonicSunset.com
---
Clinically Inclined is mixed live on air, 89.3 FM in Chicago every 
Friday night.