(313) hydrogen economy 9/17 - pauloo, caseroc, mark deep
mixmaster pauloo brought his friends caseroc and mark deep this weekend. short sets because of some transportation issues, but damn this is the finest paul has ever brought down on my head. for all boston area folks, check out caseroc's night at the wonderbar in allston every friday. 9/23 mkb plays at the appliance of science! 125 river st cambridge, ma! upcoming guests: 9/24 mixmaster pauloo and dj dublin you can listen to the recording here: http://dirty.org/~mkb/media/h2e20050917-pauloo_caseroc_markdeep.mp3 the hydrogen economy is broadcast every saturday night at midnight US eastern (9PM PDT) on 90.3 WRIU FM in kingston, RI. webcasts are available at www.wriu.org and (most weeks) on dirtyradio.net a podcast rss feed is available from the itunes music store http://hydrogenproject.com -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) So
At 04:15 PM 9/19/2005 -0400, you wrote: What'd I miss? Is this thing on? What is this place? Who are all you people??
Re: (313) A few reviews...
Lance @ Inaudible wrote: Has anybody found any other Richard Kirk releases worth a listen? High Time Fiction is quite fun, if you like the really early Cabaret Voltaire sound. Its got a similar aural aesthetic to Voice of America and their early singles.
Re: (313) A few reviews...
count zero 'silent prayer' (ozone) is a favourite of mine. bleepy acid from 1990. or are we talking recent stuff? james www.jbucknell.com darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] bola.com To 313@hyperreal.org 09/20/05 12:36 PM cc Subject Re: (313) A few reviews... Lance @ Inaudible wrote: Has anybody found any other Richard Kirk releases worth a listen? High Time Fiction is quite fun, if you like the really early Cabaret Voltaire sound. Its got a similar aural aesthetic to Voice of America and their early singles. ForwardSourceID:NT00022C9A
(313) FW: Black Dog Mix - Department of Dogma pt1
Hi List, If this gets through it'll be my first post to the 313 list. Posts from my old address never got through, lets see if this address works. Hopefully this marks the end of two years of lurking! Anyway, to business - I downloaded the Black Dog mix department of Dogma part 1. I think this came from the Little Detroit site. Does anyone know of, or have, the track listing? Also, was there ever a part 2? Thanks, Mark. - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com To find out more about Reuters Products and Services visit http://www.reuters.com/productinfo Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
(313) German translation wanted for Debug review
Any German heads out there that could help translate this for my website would be much appreciated. Ive tried Google translator, but this is Bleed at Debug we are talking about here and it still amkes nos ense! Concrate Soul Collective: Electronical funk with soul vol 1 (Digital Soul records) Schon wirklich ein ziemliches Meisterwerk diese EP auf der das Concrete Soul Collective nicht einfach nur smoothe etroittracks macht, sondern sich so in die Melodien vertieft, dass man sofort auf eine andere Ebene geführt wird in der die Grooves und Melodien eine Allianz eingehen die einen die Augen schliessen lässt und bis zum nächsten Tag durchtanzen lassen dürfte. Magische Tracks die einfach nur immer deeper werden. Sehr schön. * many thanks Stewart
(313) DJ Bone track ID
Hi, I wa wondering if anyone can ID the track that comes in around 34 mins in... Cheers, N Nik Stoltzman Cabot Communications Ltd Complete The Digital Picture Tel: +44 117 943 0227 Fax: +44 117 958 4168 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
(313) RE: So
What'd I miss? we worked out who dopplereffekt was ;) welcome back rob..
Re: (313) RE: So
we also shared the download locations of two unreleased derrick may albums - Original Message - From: Kelly, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: (313) RE: So What'd I miss? we worked out who dopplereffekt was ;) welcome back rob..
Re: (313) RE: So
we worked out who dopplereffekt was I know, and who'd have though it was marsel and his mum all along? crazy stuff. he's a dark horse that dutch techno wizard. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) RE: So
crazy stuff. he's a dark horse that dutch techno wizard. no that was black beatuty. no need to fecth it, i got my coat on... _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) RE: So
no need to fecth it, i got my coat on... good job and all P, I was just fetching it for you. got any rare news for us? e.g. marcus mixx's dog just ate the last known copy of monkey acid one copy acetate, or anything like that? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
Has anyone read this book yet? I have, thought it was excellent, dying to talk about it with someone. p.s. its available in FOPP for a tenner UK folks, well worth it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) RE: So
Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already.
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
Yeah I read it. It's not bad, and definitely a textbook for those wanting to dig deeper beyond Public Image and the ilk. I kind of wished for some sort of commentary option I could switch on and read alternating opinions from Paul Morley. The discographies that were (are?) available on the publisher's website are outstanding and very thorough. It's going to be available in the states next year, but with a few missing chapters. Get the UK version if at all possible. On 9/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone read this book yet? I have, thought it was excellent, dying to talk about it with someone. p.s. its available in FOPP for a tenner UK folks, well worth it. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) RE: So
--- rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob You sure youve not just been lurking Rob ;-) welcome back BTW Cheers BT
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
Yeah I read it. It's not bad I almost felt inspired for about 5 minutes till I finished it and made another joint. I think you can pick holes in it (e.g. he sometimes says this record was the blueprint for such and such...etc.. and I'm not having it that your average jungle producer listened to mad obscure post-punk. no way.) I just liked reading in some further detail about some bands I have records by, and was good to make a few connections re producers etc. I should read my record sleeves really, I can be a dope at times, its like I look at things but they never go in my brain. infact my girlfriend says that she talks to me and I'm looking at her, but it aint going in. I was inspired about some of the ideas the bands had. and stuff. made me think no one does that today. but I'm sure they do and someone will dress it up as well in 20 years time. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) new bits?
anyone got anything new? I'm cutting down on the record buying front. I haven't really got anything. have I missed owt?? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
I seem to recall DJ DIe doing a remix of ACR's 'Yeah Boy', I think because he was into them. Granted, ACR aren't particularly obscure and DJ Die might not be you average jungle producer, but then again what is an 'average jungle producer'? You wrote: I'm not having it that your average jungle producer listened to mad obscure post-punk. no way.)
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
Granted, ACR aren't particularly obscure and DJ Die might not be you average jungle producer, but then again what is an 'average jungle producer'? well, alright, it wasn't a good example, bit of a flippant comment. I cant remember the example. must look it up, but he was referencing a pretty obscure post-punk record and saying it served as a blueprint for later day jungle. I cry no chance. theres just no way that those guys were listening to that stuff I dont reckon. they were sampling breaks from lots of places, but I'm not having it that they listened to this record and thought ooh, thats the sound we're looking for. I mean, doesn't goldie/rob playford cite bug in the bassbin at 45 as a biggie for all those boys? something that started something. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
BITBB is definitely in there, but it's not the only component. I think that producers back then were just as into diverse/obscure music as they are now. It's part of trying to create something different or novel. I cry no chance. theres just no way that those guys were listening to that stuff I dont reckon. they were sampling breaks from lots of places, but I'm not having it that they listened to this record and thought ooh, thats the sound we're looking for. I mean, doesn't goldie/rob playford cite bug in the bassbin at 45 as a biggie for all those boys? something that started something. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
BITBB is definitely in there, but it's not the only component. I think that producers back then were just as into diverse/obscure music as they are now. It's part of trying to create something different or novel. yeah, still not having it though. ha ha. I'll dig out the ref and post it. also there was one that was a blueprint for detroit techno - some heaven 17/BEF thing that I dont own. I have a few bits by them though. and I'm not having that either. but anyway, its a wicked book. small gripes, just thought they were lazy. must admit its two sentances out of a million mind. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new bits?
yeah i got a few...been feeling a little disillusioned with it all recently but these lifted my spiritsas i said a week or so ago it's a good time for techno of the deeper variety. some stuff worth checking out: arken - arken 10 - sonar kollectiv (two killer tracks and a nice relaxin downtempo number too) kids on the streets - keep on turning - stir15 (chez damier on the production and vocal there) murat ft. prosumer - playhouse (clicky but with enough flavour to make it worthwhile) basic soul unit - versatile (wicked!) hawkeye - 4077th (can't reemmber all details on this) dexter - d-funked - clone duplex - frictioonal freqency - frantic flowers ART compilation (like you didn't know about this :) ) cocamoto on must (analmatique II (great name :) ) the highlight) quentin harris and robert owens (deep but not too sophisto as my girlfirend would say) that new andy stott thing (can';t remember the details) new planet delsin comp (yeah yeah i know everyone knows abotut his but i'm still well looking forward to it) greg wilson edits cd on tirk is nice too (that yello edit rocks) automan 12 anyone else? phewgotta dash. robin... On 20 Sep 2005, at 12:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone got anything new? I'm cutting down on the record buying front. I haven't really got anything. have I missed owt??
Re: (313) new bits?
oh yeah the new C2 mix of Laurent Garnier is very nice too (cloud making machine). not that enamoured with the radioslave rework of darkness though. it's ok but a bit ummm sugary. robin...
RE: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
I'll dig out the ref and post it. also there was one that was a blueprint for detroit techno - some heaven 17/BEF thing that I dont own. I have a few bits by them though. and I'm not having that either. was that the 'music for listening to' lp?.. that is proto techno, and it hasn't dated either..
RE: (313) new bits?
I just picked up a great EP on the Fortek label. Blakk Earth... some choice KMS / kenny larkin style tracks. There are samples posted at submerge. Cheers. lrh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) new bits? anyone got anything new? I'm cutting down on the record buying front. I haven't really got anything. have I missed owt?? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
was that the 'music for listening to' lp?.. that is proto techno, and it hasn't dated either.. nah, it was a 2 track 12 he was referring to. I've got that lp, and yeah, I agree. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Dale Lawrence
Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already.
Re: (313) new bits?
- Original Message -- From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] oh yeah the new C2 mix of Laurent Garnier is very nice too (cloud making machine). ive only listened online, but doesnt it have that doom's night bass sound? im not real sure how i feel about that. not that enamoured with the radioslave rework of darkness though. it's ok but a bit ummm sugary. it might have been okay had they not thrown that chopped up vocal from the planet e site in there. that just ended any chances of me buying it. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) new bits?
ta for that Lee. looks like theres a few bits there i should check, not heard of some of them... pretty weird selection of bits they have there. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) new bits?
oh yeah the new C2 mix of Laurent Garnier is very nice too (cloud making machine). ive only listened online, but doesnt it have that doom's night bass sound? im not real sure how i feel about that. yeah i'm not either...it's defo a fly in the ointment. 'twill be editted out when i play it that's for sure not that enamoured with the radioslave rework of darkness though. it's ok but a bit ummm sugary. it might have been okay had they not thrown that chopped up vocal from the planet e site in there. that just ended any chances of me buying it. oh yeah that's why i recognise it! if i'd listened to it beforehand (i was in a hurry) i probs wouldn't have picked it up. robin...
(313) UR interview in DJ Mag
here you go, UR interview in the most rubbish, commercial dance music magazine ever: http://www.djmag.com/newsfeat176.php _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) UR interview in DJ Mag
Interview done by Kris Needs...man, haven't seen that name in a loong time, thought he quit the musicbiz and went ton to write books or something?? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 20 september 2005 15:59 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) UR interview in DJ Mag here you go, UR interview in the most rubbish, commercial dance music magazine ever: http://www.djmag.com/newsfeat176.php _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Dale Lawrence
I think he just grew up! tb -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dale Lawrence Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already.
(313) RE: So
Richie has been racing? With Riccardo Villalobos, using shopping carts filled with underage German girls, from the HauptBahnHof to the Brandenburg Gate, winner makes tea? On 9/20/05, rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor?
(313) previews @ nomorewords.net
audio clips uploaded of these upcoming releases + $tinkworx - $tinkworx EP - New Religion - 12 - reg 115 + Dynarec - Component Zero - Vaporwave - 12 - vw002 + The Moderator - Reversed Evolution - Eevo Lute Muzique - 12 - eevo2502 + Newworldaquarium - The Games That We Play - New Religion - 12 - reg 116 + Terrace - Interesting Times - Eevo Lute Muzique - 12 - eevocd8 + Various Artists - The Electric Institute - ART/New Religion - CD, 2xLP 12 - reg 118 + Vince Watson - Echoes From The Future: View From The Past - Bio Music - CD - bio017cd/bio016-3xEP +
Re: (313) previews @ nomorewords.net
+ $tinkworx - $tinkworx EP - New Religion - 12 - reg 115 because i've got a three second memory i forgot to mention thiswicked 12. it's all about the inner tracks on the 12 for me :) robin...
Re: (313) Dale Lawrence
At 07:31 AM 9/20/2005 -0400, Rob lectured: Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. I love you too Rob. I know this because you tell me to make records. Also because you tell me I'm not Guns'n'Roses, since that would be an insult! I actually dismantled my studio for well over a year--mistakenly thinking I would produce using software only, which was only good for crashing my machine. Plus my basement studio which used to remind me of some far off technoasis for the soul started to feel like just another cluttered basement... I have since remedied both of these things and reassembled my studio more compact on the top floor of my house--and the irony is, as soon as I did this the software stopped crashing my machine. Now as far as the tracks... I actually did just upload a new unreleased one on myspace yesterday. At 03:41 PM 9/20/2005 +0200, Tosh conjectured: Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... It seems my ADHD decided to hyperfocus on something else for a while. I've never written music because I have to, or because it's my job. If I did that it would be no better than 90% of the fodder that is out there--don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm all that, but I can tell when an artist is in the creative moment, or when they're just doing it to be cool. I think we all can. I've always written my best music for myself first and everything after that was just a bonus. On top of that I've got real life issues to take care of too that are more pressing. Also, anyone that wants to hire a graphic designer should send me an email... /shameless! At 09:12 AM 9/20/2005 -0500, Tim hypothesized: I think he just grew up! Haha, I'm still working on that! Dale
(313) I nearly forgot... a shortish London report
Now that I'm finally over my jetlag I'll try to recall the main points of my London vacation. Trouble is I'm doing it after a week of Bristolian indulgences :-D First and foremost - Tristan was a great host. A big thank you goes out to you sir. If you ever need a place in Minneapolis you've got it. Now onto the story... Got in on Saturday morning around 9am - missing the Werk boat party the night before. From what I heard it was good but not as good as last year. To make up for it we went to the Cntrl*Alt party at the Telegraph just around the corner from Tristan's flat. Primarily an electro/IDM/breaks night. The Telegraph (for those that haven't been there) is a Thai (?) restaurant/lounge with a big back room. It wasn't much of a place before I was told but they've redone it with a bigger and better soundsystem and nicer decor. They had a small dance floor in the main front room by the bar - small area but big enough to hop around. Good mix of electro and drum bass going on in there with Po-Ski, Shelley Parker, Abstrakt Knights, and others. Ventured into the big back room early on but the sounds were of the wonky funky breaks kind so we hung out in the front until a little later when Point B came on. Wow, that guy was fantastic. He was working off his laptop creating some unpredictable and surprising electro. His music never fell into a rut but there was definitely a groove there. Highly recommended. From what I remember from the rest of the night - Radioactive Man sucked eggs. Never heard him live before but I do have a mix tape of a live set from a few years ago and I swear that he played the exact same songs in the exact same sequence that night. Compared to the rest of the music that night he was 10 years behind. Can't believe this guy is a member of Two Loneswordsmen! After that I think I lost it to some jungle/db in the front room and then again in the big room at the end of the night. I think it was NoYeahNo that ended the night with f*cked up db noise in the Sh!tmat vein. Loved it. Eh, then what Lost on Sunday (loosing track of days already by this time). Before that Tristan took me down to Co-Op @ Plastic People. Tried to blag our way in since we were only going to be there for about a half-hour and we got there so early. Didn't work but the price was worth it for me. Can't wait to go back there again. Thank you very much Tristan for taking me there! Brilliant club - DJs - soundsystem. So clean and clear with super fat bass rumble. Quite a small space but really the optimal size. I can see how Co-Op can just go off. Wooden dancefloor (actually don't think I didn't see anything else during my whole trip), wish more US clubs would install wood floors. Who was playing uh, I think it was Daz-I-kue on the decks when we got downstairs and it was already bouncing like bumper cars. The club had *just* opened. I was immediately hoping around like a muppet and by the end of our half-hour visit had managed to soak through my t-shirt. Tristan pointed out Phil Asher when he arrived and I knew we were going to miss one hell of a night. Ah well, I got an early taste of it and I can't get it off my mind. So, off to my first Lost experience. Waited in line with Hanna and Tristan (Tristan was #1 by the way). Seemed to take forever for them to get it together but once in the club was interesting to explore. A good size space, multiple rooms, a bathroom attendant (lol). What else could you ask for (maybe a better choice of liquor)? Eh, so there was a great big red cube in one room where no DJs were but some pleasant ambienty music was playing. Followed people into the main room which was dark and already full of fog. Now I know where they got the name Lost from. Max Duley's set - really great mood setter for the night. Slower deep techno put my head in the same dark space my body was in. He later said he wasn't happy with it but I think everyone else was. The rest of the night quickly became a blur. Oliver Ho was on next and it was a seamless transition from Max to Oliver. Didn't quite realize that Max was done. Don't really remember much from Oliver's set except that I stayed on the floor except for the occasional run to the bar while there was still room to move. Steve Bicknell's set had me leaving the floor for the first and only time that night. Wandered around into the front space which was set up into a huge lounge area. Rhythm Sound were kicking back with a fantastic mix of reggae/dub. Stood around there for a while looking around for familiar faces as every sofa chair was taken. Finally found people sitting down behind me against the wall. Chilled out there for a while and then went back in for Spirit/65D Mavericks and Jeff Bells in 7 Mills. Never heard Spirit before. They were good but felt that something was lacking just a little bit. They were working off laptop and as Tristan pointed out it seems like they were sequencing tracks
Re: (313) I nearly forgot... a shortish London report
lol excellent report and glad you had a nice time, tristan sure does look after folks ;0) ... gotta see the pic of RT, ha ha classic! Now that I'm finally over my jetlag I'll try to recall the main points of my London vacation. Trouble is I'm doing it after a week of Bristolian indulgences :-D First and foremost - Tristan was a great host. A big thank you goes out to you sir. If you ever need a place in Minneapolis you've got it. Now onto the story... Got in on Saturday morning around 9am - missing the Werk boat party the night before. From what I heard it was good but not as good as last year. To make up for it we went to the Cntrl*Alt party at the Telegraph just around the corner from Tristan's flat. Primarily an electro/IDM/breaks night. The Telegraph (for those that haven't been there) is a Thai (?) restaurant/lounge with a big back room. It wasn't much of a place before I was told but they've redone it with a bigger and better soundsystem and nicer decor. They had a small dance floor in the main front room by the bar - small area but big enough to hop around. Good mix of electro and drum bass going on in there with Po-Ski, Shelley Parker, Abstrakt Knights, and others. Ventured into the big back room early on but the sounds were of the wonky funky breaks kind so we hung out in the front until a little later when Point B came on. Wow, that guy was fantastic. He was working off his laptop creating some unpredictable and surprising electro. His music never fell into a rut but there was definitely a groove there. Highly recommended. From what I remember from the rest of the night - Radioactive Man sucked eggs. Never heard him live before but I do have a mix tape of a live set from a few years ago and I swear that he played the exact same songs in the exact same sequence that night. Compared to the rest of the music that night he was 10 years behind. Can't believe this guy is a member of Two Loneswordsmen! After that I think I lost it to some jungle/db in the front room and then again in the big room at the end of the night. I think it was NoYeahNo that ended the night with f*cked up db noise in the Sh!tmat vein. Loved it. Eh, then what Lost on Sunday (loosing track of days already by this time). Before that Tristan took me down to Co-Op @ Plastic People. Tried to blag our way in since we were only going to be there for about a half-hour and we got there so early. Didn't work but the price was worth it for me. Can't wait to go back there again. Thank you very much Tristan for taking me there! Brilliant club - DJs - soundsystem. So clean and clear with super fat bass rumble. Quite a small space but really the optimal size. I can see how Co-Op can just go off. Wooden dancefloor (actually don't think I didn't see anything else during my whole trip), wish more US clubs would install wood floors. Who was playing uh, I think it was Daz-I-kue on the decks when we got downstairs and it was already bouncing like bumper cars. The club had *just* opened. I was immediately hoping around like a muppet and by the end of our half-hour visit had managed to soak through my t-shirt. Tristan pointed out Phil Asher when he arrived and I knew we were going to miss one hell of a night. Ah well, I got an early taste of it and I can't get it off my mind. So, off to my first Lost experience. Waited in line with Hanna and Tristan (Tristan was #1 by the way). Seemed to take forever for them to get it together but once in the club was interesting to explore. A good size space, multiple rooms, a bathroom attendant (lol). What else could you ask for (maybe a better choice of liquor)? Eh, so there was a great big red cube in one room where no DJs were but some pleasant ambienty music was playing. Followed people into the main room which was dark and already full of fog. Now I know where they got the name Lost from. Max Duley's set - really great mood setter for the night. Slower deep techno put my head in the same dark space my body was in. He later said he wasn't happy with it but I think everyone else was. The rest of the night quickly became a blur. Oliver Ho was on next and it was a seamless transition from Max to Oliver. Didn't quite realize that Max was done. Don't really remember much from Oliver's set except that I stayed on the floor except for the occasional run to the bar while there was still room to move. Steve Bicknell's set had me leaving the floor for the first and only time that night. Wandered around into the front space which was set up into a huge lounge area. Rhythm Sound were kicking back with a fantastic mix of reggae/dub. Stood around there for a while looking around for familiar faces as every sofa chair was taken. Finally found people sitting down behind me against the wall. Chilled out there for a while and then went back in for Spirit/65D Mavericks and
Re: (313) Simon Reynolds Rip It Up And Start Again
On Sep 20, 2005, at 4:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: infact my girlfriend says that she talks to me and I'm looking at her, but it aint going in. Erm must you share so much of the problems with your sex life then Alex? ;) also there was one that was a blueprint for detroit techno - some Heaven 17/BEF thing that I dont own. I have a few bits by them though. and I'm not having that either. You'd be surprised. There's a BEF track that Shake used to play out that I can never remember the name of - I think it's Uptown Apocalypse off Music For Stowaways (Stowaways = Walkmans, for you kids) but that's probably wrong - which could well be one of the blueprints. Is the track title mentioned in the book? Shake played it off of a vinyl record that had a Virgin label; what's weird is that I thought it was the only track on that side (I literally ran up to the decks in a total freak-out when he played it to see) and the only B.E.F. vinyl I know of that could fit the bill is http://www.discogs.com/release/190428 but that's a full album, not a 12 ... - Greg
Re: (313) FW: Black Dog Mix - Department of Dogma pt1
Anyway, to business - I downloaded the Black Dog mix department of Dogma part 1. I think this came from the Little Detroit site. Does anyone know of, or have, the track listing? Also, was there ever a part 2? hello mark, after doing a bit of searching at The Black Dog Towers website i've discovered that the Department of Dogma pt 12 files are actually sides 12 of the The Black Dog - Live int Toronto 1997 demo cassette. Both files are still available for download at The Black Dog Towers as well as a few other goodies. Click the web addy blow then visit the 1997 demo link for the files two 'department of dogma files.' also check out the two other tbd tracks there as well as the bttb mix (Back to the Basics)? enjoy! http://techno.dogsquad.co.uk/tbd/ a proper tracklisting still would be nice! ; ) -- ---Lance 6099 Creekside Lane North Ridgeville, OH 44039 United States
Re: (313) Ghost of 313's past...
On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: dan curtin might still be in cleveland but he seems to be maintaining a generally low profile. Dan and his wife have been living in Berlin for awhile now, as far as I know. My homeboy (that's American for mate, you lot) J. Bondy (Volum/Volsoc) pal'ed around with Dan quite a bit in Berlin before he moved back here to LA in January. - Greg (Who would say hi to Lance but he didn't get a shout-out, so ... :-P ) ha! sorry greg. i knew i was going to forget to mention a few of the 313 legends. sorry that it was you! : ) thanks for the confirmation on mr curtin and nice to see your posts again! -- ---Lance 6099 Creekside Lane North Ridgeville, OH 44039 United States
(313) Hieroglyphic Being live
nice so farvery nice http://www.naughtybadfun.org/nbfmixes/Hieroglyphic08172005.mp3 robin...
RE: (313) Dale Lawrence
as a 37 year old with a full time professional IT job I think thats a lame excuse for you even to think Im still making and releasing and playing gigs... gorwing up is not even an excuse its just lame... On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Tim Baker wrote: I think he just grew up! tb -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dale Lawrence Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. naw/neil wiernik artist site: www.naw.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pertin-nce.com projects: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net
Re: (313) Dale Lawrence
hey dale long time no hear words for you good to hear that you arestill at it and that you didnt fall for the old I grew up excuse, real life does some times take over but when your making music because you just like to make music it never leaves you as your just proved to everyone... :) we have to have you back up here in toronto some time again... On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Dale Lawrence wrote: At 07:31 AM 9/20/2005 -0400, Rob lectured: Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. I love you too Rob. I know this because you tell me to make records. Also because you tell me I'm not Guns'n'Roses, since that would be an insult! I actually dismantled my studio for well over a year--mistakenly thinking I would produce using software only, which was only good for crashing my machine. Plus my basement studio which used to remind me of some far off technoasis for the soul started to feel like just another cluttered basement... I have since remedied both of these things and reassembled my studio more compact on the top floor of my house--and the irony is, as soon as I did this the software stopped crashing my machine. Now as far as the tracks... I actually did just upload a new unreleased one on myspace yesterday. At 03:41 PM 9/20/2005 +0200, Tosh conjectured: Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... It seems my ADHD decided to hyperfocus on something else for a while. I've never written music because I have to, or because it's my job. If I did that it would be no better than 90% of the fodder that is out there--don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm all that, but I can tell when an artist is in the creative moment, or when they're just doing it to be cool. I think we all can. I've always written my best music for myself first and everything after that was just a bonus. On top of that I've got real life issues to take care of too that are more pressing. Also, anyone that wants to hire a graphic designer should send me an email... /shameless! At 09:12 AM 9/20/2005 -0500, Tim hypothesized: I think he just grew up! Haha, I'm still working on that! Dale naw/neil wiernik artist site: www.naw.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pertin-nce.com projects: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net
Re: (313) Dale Lawrence
oh. that's cool. you're an inspiration to us all. keep up the good work. On 9/20/05, Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as a 37 year old with a full time professional IT job I think thats a lame excuse for you even to think Im still making and releasing and playing gigs... gorwing up is not even an excuse its just lame... On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Tim Baker wrote: I think he just grew up! tb -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dale Lawrence Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. naw/neil wiernik artist site: www.naw.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pertin-nce.com projects: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net
Re: (313) Dale Lawrence
This is swt. Rob, Lance, Tim and Dale come out of the crypt and lurking space and this is the most exciting action we've had on 313 for a while. Man! Just think if Derrick May was on the list! Thanks Tosh! d ps.this is totally taking my mind off a school board meeting and Back to School Night. keep it up! --- rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh. that's cool. you're an inspiration to us all. keep up the good work. On 9/20/05, Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as a 37 year old with a full time professional IT job I think thats a lame excuse for you even to think Im still making and releasing and playing gigs... gorwing up is not even an excuse its just lame... On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Tim Baker wrote: I think he just grew up! tb -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dale Lawrence Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. naw/neil wiernik artist site: www.naw.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pertin-nce.com projects: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) Dale Lawrence
I expect to see an e-mail on this list within 7 days from: Bill van Loo, Dave Walker and Robert Fixer Smith ;) KJ On 21-sep-2005, at 0:32, diana potts wrote: This is swt. Rob, Lance, Tim and Dale come out of the crypt and lurking space and this is the most exciting action we've had on 313 for a while. Man! Just think if Derrick May was on the list! Thanks Tosh! d ps.this is totally taking my mind off a school board meeting and Back to School Night. keep it up! --- rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh. that's cool. you're an inspiration to us all. keep up the good work. On 9/20/05, Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as a 37 year old with a full time professional IT job I think thats a lame excuse for you even to think Im still making and releasing and playing gigs... gorwing up is not even an excuse its just lame... On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Tim Baker wrote: I think he just grew up! tb -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Dale Lawrence Yeah seriously, why did Dale just drop off the face of the earth? There was so much hope and promise... Subject: Re: (313) RE: So From: rob theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:31:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org Well it's nice to see everyone except Dale Lawrence has been busy*. Good to be back, I think. Time will tell on that one. It's been a few years since I've been on here. Anywhere I can go to catch up, or is that really even necessary? I can presume we're all still chasing Theo and Omar S records that were recorded under an I-96 underpass and mastered by Helen Keller, overpaying for obscure but woefully mediocre white label copies of Serious Grooves and UR 12's, and grasping at race straws via the Hawtin factor? -rob * Dale you know I love you, but you ain't Guns and Roses. Get back in the studio and make a damn record already. naw/neil wiernik artist site: www.naw.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com www.pertin-nce.com projects: www.vagueterrain.net www.phoniq.net __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com