Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
On 4/4/06, Alex Lugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching Jeremy Ellis working the MPC is the epitome of using that piece of gear live, IMHO. I haven't seen it done better. ill agree with that! the opening bit of his set at movement 03 when he was rocking the mpc solo was absolutely incredible. unfortunately shortly thereafter his show devolved into some show-tunes-esque soul stuff that made me get clowned on by anyone i mentioned how awesome the early part of his set was to. john arnold live on the midi guitar + mpc aint half bad either! to
Re: (313) NYC! TUES. NIGHT! Hefty Turns 10 feat: Sakamoto, Prefuse Geist
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RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
Re: (313) CD Mixers
Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for something that REQUIRES you to have turntables in order to mix is kind of crazy. That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something you haul up and down stairs. Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO. I disagree slightly with your view on the Serato / FS systems .. I have mixed on nearly every system available to beat match and pitch mix. I like all of them and would agree with the recommendation of the Pioneer CDJ series. Pioneer for all their little audio deficiencies, make very reliable gear that survives everything short of a Vodka Orange left to corrode circuits. The looping options are always quick and easy to use, with some of the models providing on the fly loop adjustment, loop memory .. etc etc. In regards to the Serato / FS systems .. I don't think you should underrate the tactile nature of a Turntable. One of the biggest issues with driving software ' or any digital system is the 'interface'. While the Pioneer CDJ1000 is pretty good for giving you hands on control of music tracks .. I find a Turntable is still one of the most physically rewarding mediums of control. The bonus of linking a Turntable into software is that you can access all the additional functions that digital provides :: Looping, FX 'cue memory. Obviously you can learn the feel and intuition of any system, but the biggest problem I see facing most digital musicians is the interface. The physical nature of playing a real instrument allows the artist to add all sorts of flavor into their performance. While I love digital and the extra dimension of 'tweak' the access to the 'tweak' is still a little clumsy or not as fluent as with familiar devices. To feel the weight of a Direct Drive Turntable under fingers is not really a comparison to the weight of a CDJ jog dial. I think DJ's are lucky that digital has been brought to our old medium of control in such a quick and seamless fashion. However all things are learned ' and all systems have potentials that others do not .. and spending time with equipment is the best way to get the most out of it. Ideally I like to have Turntables CDJ's and use everything ' hot starts loops ' and the run run crackle pop of vinyl ' its all toys ' its all good. .. Common failures I have seen on CDJ gear is the buttons. Primarily the Cue button which gets hit the most. Another less common issue is the jog wheels getting jammed with dirt / grit / ash .. Beyond that I have bounced them on the road, poured liquid through them with out much of an issue ' other than cleaning and gaffer tape. And at the end of the day ' all you want it to do is work when you need it. .simon
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else. Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a set of really good, deep, chain reaction-type stuff, and all he used was the ableton instruments and effects, no plug-ins. All sounds were generated by operator and he was just tweaking stuff and writing clips on the fly. And again, all he was using to control everything was a doepfer pocket fader and the laptop touchpad/keyboard; the much-vaunted monodeck was nowhere in sight. Mindblowing stuff. Sure, if you recorded the output the sound quality might not be so amazing that you could release it as a track, but in the context of a live show it was wicked. First time I've ever seen ableton used as an instrument, if you know what I mean. For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie Lidell. He makes pretty much every sound using his mouth and has a custom max/msp program that samples and loops his beatboxing/wailing/silly banter, and then runs that through a mixing desk with some delay and reverb sends, together with an MPC1000 with some beats on it and a minimoog for extra phat crunch. And he puts on a proper show. And it's dripping with soul. You MUST see him if he's playing within 100 miles of you. (further if you have means of transport beyond walking). I'd like to see galoppierende zuversicht live as well - they show up with a bunch of hardware (NO laptops), a fair bit of it home-made, and just jam away for an hour or so. Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/04/2006 10:09 am There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
(313) RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
-Original Message- From: Simon Hindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 01:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie Lidell. He makes pretty much every sound using his mouth and has a custom max/msp program that samples and loops his beatboxing/wailing/silly banter, and then runs that through a mixing desk with some delay and reverb sends, together with an MPC1000 with some beats on it and a minimoog for extra phat crunch. And he puts on a proper show. And it's dripping with soul. You MUST see him if he's playing within 100 miles of you. (further if you have means of transport beyond walking). Ah yes. I forgot about Lidell. Agreed he's a must-see, and up there with the best. I wasn't quite as blown-away by Monolake, but I wasn't really in a state to evaluate properly. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
Re: (313) 69 - puntang EP
Absolute prescious material from planet-e. Carl Craig is a top artist in his genre. Compared to any artist in any genre - in my opinion. Did you follow the latest represses of 69 material? Kw On 04/04/2006, at 14:13, Lee Herrington wrote: Just got this release at work today. I won't get to hear it for several hours... maybe even a day! I can't wait that long. Does anyone have any thoughts on this EP? Cheers, Lee R. Herrington U STORE IT Technical Support Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-260-2245
Re: (313) CD Mixers
I agree with you. I hate people trying to reproduce the perfect saxofone sound in a synth. God damn it, call a saxofone player. Why use serato or final scratch? If your music is in a digital format, you can use a large range of softwares to do virtualy everything when it comes to mixing, beat matching or whatever. Why stay tied to the limited possibilities of a turntable? If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Finally, let me say: i'm a turntable dj. I like turntables, i do the turntable style thing. But if i go digital, like songs in a hard disk, i'll not limit myself to a turntable. CDJ is usefull for me to make some loops, play things that require great amount of pitch up or down (like +/- 16) with master tempo. There a lot of DJs using final scratch and serato just to show up in a glamour vinyl style without giving up the confort of carrying just a laptop. That makes no sense to me. I like music more than i like equipment. Kw On 04/04/2006, at 10:36, Kent Williams wrote: Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to mix. That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because they were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and over like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo. I also liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the other hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing. Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching that's inappropriate to the technology. Traktor is really easy to beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching. And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with Final Scratch. Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for something that REQUIRES you to have turntables in order to mix is kind of crazy. That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something you haul up and down stairs. Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO. On 4/3/06, Adam Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sup List, anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own? I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range. The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800 (around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the CDJ-1000). Thanks for any tips or info, Adam
Re: (313) CD Mixers
Hmmm, it's a funny one really. My flatmate bought a final scratch recently and I must say that while beforehand I was quite ambivalent towards a 'scratch' solution that now I'm seriously considering buying a FS unit. There is something quite nice about being able to use turntables as the control surface, and this really has nothing to do with whether or not 'records is the only way to play tunes' - I play ableton sets every now and then, and use CDs quite happily with no sense of stigma. I guess it might have something to do with records being what I'm the most used to, and therefore comfortable with, but I really do enjoy using FS to play digital files more than any other method. That being said, Traktor DJ Studio 3 is bloody amazing software. You can use it with FS2 but even in standalone mode it's wicked. It has some really cool effects (that are tons better than DJ-mixer effects boxes) and brilliant looping features and you can run 4 decks at once with it. So I guess that even though my heart loves final scratch, if anyone was looking for a solution for playing digital files I would recommend Traktor DJ Studio 3 above them all - above CD decks, above final scratch, above ableton even. It's less than US$300 as well so it's easily the most affordable. And you don't even need a mixer. Couple it with the Behringer BCR2000 controller for lots of hands-on knob-twiddling and you're laughing. Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/04/2006 1:14 pm I agree with you. I hate people trying to reproduce the perfect saxofone sound in a synth. God damn it, call a saxofone player. Why use serato or final scratch? If your music is in a digital format, you can use a large range of softwares to do virtualy everything when it comes to mixing, beat matching or whatever. Why stay tied to the limited possibilities of a turntable? If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Finally, let me say: i'm a turntable dj. I like turntables, i do the turntable style thing. But if i go digital, like songs in a hard disk, i'll not limit myself to a turntable. CDJ is usefull for me to make some loops, play things that require great amount of pitch up or down (like +/- 16) with master tempo. There a lot of DJs using final scratch and serato just to show up in a glamour vinyl style without giving up the confort of carrying just a laptop. That makes no sense to me. I like music more than i like equipment. Kw On 04/04/2006, at 10:36, Kent Williams wrote: Given what these things cost, I'm not sure why one wouldn't just get Traktor on a laptop -- it's a much more flexible, easier to way to mix. That being said, I love mixing on the old Denon DN 2000s, because they were really simple. Find your cue point once, instead of over and over like with records, then drop the track in and tweak tempo. I also liked picking up the controller in one arm and tweaking with the other hand. People would ask me what instrument I was playing. Both Final Scratch and the fancy CD players with platters seem to me to be trying to preserve a paradigm for mixing and beat matching that's inappropriate to the technology. Traktor is really easy to beat match in, even if you ignore the 'automatic' beat matching. And if you can't give up the wikki-wikki you can get Traktor with Final Scratch. Of course, for me, the idea of paying hundreds of dollars for something that REQUIRES you to have turntables in order to mix is kind of crazy. That only makes sense in Ubercoolische world, where the DJ equipment is something you specify in a rider, not something you haul up and down stairs. Once you learn to beat match in one medium it shouldn't be that hard to transfer the skills to a new one. IMHO. On 4/3/06, Adam Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sup List, anyone own a cd mixer that they enjoy playing 313 music related CDs on? Or dislike a CD mixer that you own? I'm considering buying one and saw a couple models in my price range. The Pioneer CDJ-200 Mixer and the Denon DN-S1000, both around $400 US each. Wondering if there are any thoughts on either of these and if they're decent, or if I should hold out for the Pioneer CDJ-800 (around $600US) (can't bring myself to spend $1000 US on the CDJ-1000). Thanks for any tips or info, Adam
Re: (313) 69 - puntang EP
On 4/4/06, Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolute prescious material from planet-e. Carl Craig is a top artist in his genre. Compared to any artist in any genre - in my opinion. honestly, i agree with you. the sheer amount of material he has released that is completely timeless and classic is up there with anyone, miles davis, john coltrane, parliament, prince, the beatles, bob marley, philip glass, brian eno, etc. i think he should be considered one of the greatest musicians of our time, anything less would be an insult to him and to techno/house/whatever music in general. tom
Re: (313) CD Mixers
- Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) CD Mixers If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Why? Why not save your back and buy more good music by purchasing it digitally while keeping the interface that you like? I'm fully aware that other software does more than a turntable, but I don't particularly need any of that stuff, and I'm happiest with the interface that I've spent 14 years learning. Should I take up the piano if I'm a sax player, just because I can play chords? Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) ein mix
great mix, dem young sconies always does it for me. btw peel, love artemis, still hasnt left the bag Haven't checked it yet but judging by playlist it must be great! mislav -Original Message- From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2006 21:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) ein mix Enjoying this mix a lot, it made the morning train ride from Brooklyn to Midtown Manhattan less painful. Cheers, Adam On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mix by Peel Seamus Hendrik http://www.spunk.nl/articles/view_article.asp?id=1143199145783 http://www.spunk.nl/upload/podcast-delsinmix.mp3 Schwarz, Dixon Ame - Where We At Vs 3 Laurent Garnier - Barbiturk Blues (C2 Rework) Hendrik Schwarz - Leavy My Head Alone (Osunlade Remix) Ame - Engoli Todd Terje - Italian Stalion Trentemoller - Sunstroke Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies K Alexi - What Dj Yoav B. - Organ Satta Ron Hardy - Welcome To The Club Sound Stream - Freakin' Secondo - It's Any Late Time Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix) Redshape - Coffee And Cigarettes Rejected - For The People Terry Brookes - City Life (Carl Craig's Caya Dub) Kenny Larkin - Catatonic 3rd State (Carl Craig Remix) D5 - Run -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
RE: (313) ein mix
This mix is amazing!!! I have listened to it ten times by now. I sit down at the computer to do some school work, plug my headphones in, and can barely contain the foot and finger tapping that probably drive everyone else in the computer lab crazy. Thanks for some wonderful music. Denise -- Denise MM Dalphond Graduate Assistant Archives of African American Music Culture Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting Mislav Bobic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Haven't checked it yet but judging by playlist it must be great! mislav -Original Message- From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2006 21:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) ein mix Enjoying this mix a lot, it made the morning train ride from Brooklyn to Midtown Manhattan less painful. Cheers, Adam On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mix by Peel Seamus Hendrik http://www.spunk.nl/articles/view_article.asp?id=1143199145783 http://www.spunk.nl/upload/podcast-delsinmix.mp3 Schwarz, Dixon Ame - Where We At Vs 3 Laurent Garnier - Barbiturk Blues (C2 Rework) Hendrik Schwarz - Leavy My Head Alone (Osunlade Remix) Ame - Engoli Todd Terje - Italian Stalion Trentemoller - Sunstroke Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies K Alexi - What Dj Yoav B. - Organ Satta Ron Hardy - Welcome To The Club Sound Stream - Freakin' Secondo - It's Any Late Time Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix) Redshape - Coffee And Cigarettes Rejected - For The People Terry Brookes - City Life (Carl Craig's Caya Dub) Kenny Larkin - Catatonic 3rd State (Carl Craig Remix) D5 - Run -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
RE: (313) ein mix
Hi praise indeed! :-) Ken -Original Message- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2006 17:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ein mix This mix is amazing!!! I have listened to it ten times by now. I sit down at the computer to do some school work, plug my headphones in, and can barely contain the foot and finger tapping that probably drive everyone else in the computer lab crazy. Thanks for some wonderful music. Denise -- Denise MM Dalphond Graduate Assistant Archives of African American Music Culture Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting Mislav Bobic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Haven't checked it yet but judging by playlist it must be great! mislav -Original Message- From: Adam Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2006 21:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: Re: (313) ein mix Enjoying this mix a lot, it made the morning train ride from Brooklyn to Midtown Manhattan less painful. Cheers, Adam On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mix by Peel Seamus Hendrik http://www.spunk.nl/articles/view_article.asp?id=1143199145783 http://www.spunk.nl/upload/podcast-delsinmix.mp3 Schwarz, Dixon Ame - Where We At Vs 3 Laurent Garnier - Barbiturk Blues (C2 Rework) Hendrik Schwarz - Leavy My Head Alone (Osunlade Remix) Ame - Engoli Todd Terje - Italian Stalion Trentemoller - Sunstroke Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies K Alexi - What Dj Yoav B. - Organ Satta Ron Hardy - Welcome To The Club Sound Stream - Freakin' Secondo - It's Any Late Time Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Remix) Redshape - Coffee And Cigarettes Rejected - For The People Terry Brookes - City Life (Carl Craig's Caya Dub) Kenny Larkin - Catatonic 3rd State (Carl Craig Remix) D5 - Run -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
(313) Review-hefty 10 NYC (OT)
Greetings, Could someone please post a review/run down of the Hefty Ten Year last night. how I wanted to go to this! I'm also missing Jamie Lidell later this month too. Darned school nights! thanks d __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else. Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a set of really good, deep, chain reaction-type stuff, and all he used was the ableton instruments and effects, no plug-ins. All sounds were generated by operator and he was just tweaking stuff and writing clips on the fly. And again, all he was using to control everything was a doepfer pocket fader and the laptop touchpad/keyboard; the much-vaunted monodeck was nowhere in sight. Mindblowing stuff. Sure, if you recorded the output the sound quality might not be so amazing that you could release it as a track, but in the context of a live show it was wicked. First time I've ever seen ableton used as an instrument, if you know what I mean. For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie Lidell. He makes pretty much every sound using his mouth and has a custom max/msp program that samples and loops his beatboxing/wailing/silly banter, and then runs that through a mixing desk with some delay and reverb sends, together with an MPC1000 with some beats on it and a minimoog for extra phat crunch. And he puts on a proper show. And it's dripping with soul. You MUST see him if he's playing within 100 miles of you. (further if you have means of transport beyond walking). I'd like to see galoppierende zuversicht live as well - they show up with a bunch of hardware (NO laptops), a fair bit of it home-made, and just jam away for an hour or so. Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/04/2006 10:09 am There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
No wonder there's so many bugs in 5 :) m On 5 Apr 2006, at 12:36, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
(313) Record Shops In Helsinki
Does anyone have info regarding record shops in Helsinki? Thanks in advance MG Out now on Emporium 50 Exclusive Glenn Underground on Moods Grooves Omar-S 006 DJ (Mix)Mode Early Detroit house and techno on Express and Incognito Records Coming back soon: Sundiata O.M. - Come Together CD www.emporium50.com
(313) what's in the bag
a short visit became a longer visit to the record shop // steve rachmad joel mull - amsterdam session 2 (music man) driving dark, funky freaky things on b-side 'melophobia' hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track james t. cotton - oochio coo (spectral sound) very rough chicago / vocaled house track kaay alexi - pop n puss (catwash records) the man is definitely back on the block - three times great phreaky mental house things (another nice one on dopewax) lindstrom - another station (todd terje) (fgeedelity) great energetic disco driving thing by todd terje tom project - renaissance (sound signature) omar s, theo parrish and marcellis pittman drop down this freaked dark acidic house jam 69 - pungtang (planet e) great great, great new versions of sub seducer and puntang (twice) akabu - phuture bound (z records) nice long building remix by ame burial remixes - free for all (sound stream remix) (burial mix) francois k remix is completely awful, but sound stream remix is completely superb! -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
(313) New track, new releases by Reticent Recordings
Hi there. I upload a new track, called All those Stupidities, available at www.ionic.com.ar. It's one of two tracks that will be released soon by Reticent Recordings USA. Enjoy it! T.I.
Re: (313) what's in the bag
On 4/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track i had a good laugh about this track a little while ago. could they have ripped off sandstorms and phylyps trak II any harder? they just jacked ideas from good cuts and essentially made a techno mashup. wild. tom
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
as far as I know and seen he has not used max/msp for a live solo show as monolake for many years... hes was using abelton for his live shows as far back as 2002 which was the last time I hosted him up here in toronto. I think he might use abelton to synthasis sounds in the studio but thats along with a bunch of other tools he uses I know he still uses max/msp for his project with deadbeat but thats a very different beast from the monolake project. neil.. aka naw On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I saw Stewart Walker a couple of months ago and he was basically using ableton and one of those doepfer pocket faderboxes running into a DJM600, nothing else. Seeing Monolake live using ableton was quite impressive - after all he basically designed the software for himself to use. He played a set of really good, deep, chain reaction-type stuff, and all he used was the ableton instruments and effects, no plug-ins. All sounds were generated by operator and he was just tweaking stuff and writing clips on the fly. And again, all he was using to control everything was a doepfer pocket fader and the laptop touchpad/keyboard; the much-vaunted monodeck was nowhere in sight. Mindblowing stuff. Sure, if you recorded the output the sound quality might not be so amazing that you could release it as a track, but in the context of a live show it was wicked. First time I've ever seen ableton used as an instrument, if you know what I mean. For 'proper' live, though, I think you'd have to go a long way to beat Jamie Lidell. He makes pretty much every sound using his mouth and has a custom max/msp program that samples and loops his beatboxing/wailing/silly banter, and then runs that through a mixing desk with some delay and reverb sends, together with an MPC1000 with some beats on it and a minimoog for extra phat crunch. And he puts on a proper show. And it's dripping with soul. You MUST see him if he's playing within 100 miles of you. (further if you have means of transport beyond walking). I'd like to see galoppierende zuversicht live as well - they show up with a bunch of hardware (NO laptops), a fair bit of it home-made, and just jam away for an hour or so. Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/04/2006 10:09 am There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006 www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
(313) minimal michael jackson bad remix
Dan Bell played this catchy techno mj remix of Bad over the weekend. Someone told me it's off a Villalobos release of mj remixes but I don't see it on his discogs page at a quick glance. Anyone know it?
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
that's for a different project though isn't it? i do however stand (partially) corrected. :) robin... /0 wrote: you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
Re: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix
all i can tell you is that i have it, but not in vinyl ;) and it is also credited to Luciano. fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix Dan Bell played this catchy techno mj remix of Bad over the weekend. Someone told me it's off a Villalobos release of mj remixes but I don't see it on his discogs page at a quick glance. Anyone know it? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 04/04/2006
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No wonder there's so many bugs in 5 :) m On 5 Apr 2006, at 12:36, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
thats a different project atlantic waves is his project with deadbeat its not monolake solo... I know he still uses max/msp for his robert henkie and atlantic waves stuff but not for the monolake project when hes playing live any how... Ive hosted robert a number of times in toronto and the first time in 2000 he was using max/msp but since then as monolake hes been using abelton live for his stuff as monolake solo when playing live. On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, /0 wrote: you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
as interested as I am in parsing the english language with you, (ie I didnt mention monolake, I mentioned robert, who solely comprises monolake at this point) I think i'll go home and play with audio instead. :D Neil Wiernik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats a different project atlantic waves is his project with deadbeat its not monolake solo... I know he still uses max/msp for his robert henkie and atlantic waves stuff but not for the monolake project when hes playing live any how... Ive hosted robert a number of times in toronto and the first time in 2000 he was using max/msp but since then as monolake hes been using abelton live for his stuff as monolake solo when playing live. On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, /0 wrote: you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers www.phoniq.net releases available on: www.noisefactoryrecords.com publication: www.vagueterrain.net
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
he's played in detroit as monolake, using this software to communicate/collab with deadbeat I think. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's for a different project though isn't it? i do however stand (partially) corrected. :) robin... /0 wrote: you're right, this probably isnt max/msp: http://www.monolake.de/atlantic.html robert has both posted his own performance patches, and helped me with mine (subpatcher for midi learn capabilities) in the past 12 months from this, I base my previous statements. robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly he won't be using max/msp these days. robin... /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge $500 for I'll give you or ableton a bell, until then I'll wait until they've finished the next 12 builds before they get midi to work properly, if that's alright with you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
there's a pic of Sendex's set-up here: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/tony_little/TTB007.jpg -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 01:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? There are a few different types of live PAing. You've got an Ableton live arrangement/dub, or something like Stewart Walker where he uses an MPC + his other kit where he will have most of the patterns sequenced in advance, but he'll play some of them live on the MPC pads, and then trigger the sequences from the MPC as well (although I vaguely recall hearing he's using a laptop now)? Herbert will have most things pre-sequenced, and then he'll sample the sounds live. Then there's an entirely different level of liveness where almost all of the music is created on the fly a la Ayro and John Arnold, or Shawn Rudiman, where they play multiple instruments or machines in real time, have the seuencer take over for some of those parts, then move on to something else, only relying on a few bits of pre-arranged material. I'd say this last type has the most bang for the buck for sure. That Sendex show I was talking about on Sunday was sort of a cross between Stewart Walker and Shawn Rudiman styles maybe. Oh, and I was corrected after my last post that he actually had an 808 as well if anyone cares. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006
(313) RE: Record Shops In Helsinki
Lifesaver's the best vinyl specialist - www.lifesaver.net Stupido is a more general store - mainly CDs but a few bits of vinyl - www.stupido.fi - check the recent Uusi Fantasia EP (www.discogs.com/release/539143) for some great slo-mo disco. DubJazzSalsa - specialises in dub and jazz (as you may have guessed!). Dis 'n' Dat - a small store in one of the underground train stations in the city centre (i forget which) - limited stock but still a few good bits. -Original Message- From: Big 50 Entertainment [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 15:31 To: 313 Discussion List Subject: Record Shops In Helsinki Does anyone have info regarding record shops in Helsinki? Thanks in advance MG Out now on Emporium 50 Exclusive Glenn Underground on Moods Grooves Omar-S 006 DJ (Mix)Mode Early Detroit house and techno on Express and Incognito Records Coming back soon: Sundiata O.M. - Come Together CD www.emporium50.com
(313) Reaktor Sessions hack (OT)
I have a copy of Reaktor Sessions. I leant it to a friend who registered it (gr) and now I need a way to get in to the program. I've used similar theory to register for a copied version of Photoshop? I wanted to use RS with my students again this year. Please reply off list. Thanks Diana __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
That looks pretty cool Dave, all that kit in a sweat hot nightclub tho, don't think I could :) - Original Message - From: Dave Stenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] there's a pic of Sendex's set-up here: http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f52/tony_little/TTB007.jpg
Re: (313) [self-promo] Ghostly's IDOL TRYOUTS TWO out now!
Oops, didn't mean to suggest that necessarily - the 2 digital exclusive tracks can be downloaded on their own, and the Manhunter track on the vinyl is a dancefloor bomb for the vinyl fans..we like to think the gatefold packaging offers a little something special too. tom On 4/3/06 2:18 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to really have everything with this release, I'd have to buy all three formats? Well, I guess I could buy the CD and the LP and just the exclusive digital tracks, but I think that's a little too tricksy from those hobbitses. (I do like the compilation, anyway) On Apr 3, 2006, at 14:14, Thomas Meluch wrote: Hey Everyone, just a little rare self-promo to let you know that our new compilation IDOL TRYOUTS TWO is out now in 2xCD, 3xLP and digital formats, each with their own exclusive tracks. We're pretty pleased with this one. More details below and at http://idoltryouts.com -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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go back to sleep martin, you've outlived your use to me. - Original Message - From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge $500 for I'll give you or ableton a bell, until then I'll wait until they've finished the next 12 builds before they get midi to work properly, if that's alright with you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
@o/ Keep posting troll shxt and you just may outlive your use to the world. And I thought to was a hater :). Plus, aren't you the one always whining about how if it's not on topic it shouldn't be here? Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... On another note. And maybe barely more topical. BETH ORTON: The British singer-songwriter combines a traditional acoustic folk sound with electronic beats. Free Press special writer Martin Bandyke said Orton's voice has an overwhelming emotional tug. Willy Mason opens the show. Doors at 6:30 p.m. Majestic Theatre, 4140 Woodward, Detroit. 313-833-9700. $20. Now I'm not too familiar with beth orton's voice except in passing, but has she been doing the folk over electronica thing for long? Anyone hear anything about this show? Anyone going? I'm really interested in this kind of thing as I'm currently doing some collabo work with someone along the same lines. Anyone here have any recommendations for this type of thing if not exactly beth-Orton-goes-electro? Thanks. Kks Mwnb
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
you're saying that monolake is offtopic on a techno list, and j dilla isn't?! On Apr 5, 2006, at 16:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) CD Mixers
You can play chords? Can you teach me???! Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 09:13, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Re: (313) CD Mixers If you want to do what turntables do, damn, put a real vinyl record on and do your thing, Why? Why not save your back and buy more good music by purchasing it digitally while keeping the interface that you like? I'm fully aware that other software does more than a turntable, but I don't particularly need any of that stuff, and I'm happiest with the interface that I've spent 14 years learning. Should I take up the piano if I'm a sax player, just because I can play chords? Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
No- not any more- he's def. using Live- usually a slightly modified version as far as I know cheers Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 12:36, /0 wrote: actually, I think robert is using max/msp. live is based off an msp patch, which has been available for years and years. a lot of lives concepts come from msp patchers - Original Message - From: Simon Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 19:00, Martin Dust wrote: You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge $500 for I'll give you or ableton a bell, until then I'll wait until they've finished the next 12 builds before they get midi to work properly, if that's alright with you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Stick a Powercore and Virus Ti and you won't be :) They're know bugs Jason and have been there for a long time, I love the program just sick of waiting... - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Well in Joe's defence I'd say a hefty proportion of the stuff on the list isn't directly about Detroit these days- Robert Henke's music is certainly a hell of a lot closer (in my mind) to the spirit of adventurous electronic music that Detroit helped to foster/inspire- there's a shed load of Detroit releases which have been out recently which haven't even raised a single comment on the list so a wee conversation about Monolake doesn't seem to out of place in the meantime Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 21:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: @o/ Keep posting troll shxt and you just may outlive your use to the world. And I thought to was a hater :). Plus, aren't you the one always whining about how if it's not on topic it shouldn't be here? Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... On another note. And maybe barely more topical. BETH ORTON: The British singer-songwriter combines a traditional acoustic folk sound with electronic beats. Free Press special writer Martin Bandyke said Orton's voice has an overwhelming emotional tug. Willy Mason opens the show. Doors at 6:30 p.m. Majestic Theatre, 4140 Woodward, Detroit. 313-833-9700. $20. Now I'm not too familiar with beth orton's voice except in passing, but has she been doing the folk over electronica thing for long? Anyone hear anything about this show? Anyone going? I'm really interested in this kind of thing as I'm currently doing some collabo work with someone along the same lines. Anyone here have any recommendations for this type of thing if not exactly beth-Orton-goes-electro? Thanks. Kks Mwnb
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I've got a Powercore (plus warious Waldorf and Acess 3rd party plug ins) and it too works fine with Live on my system- the Virus Ti seems to cause a lot of people a lot of problems (in particular a Mr Rei Loci of Iridite who hasn't been able to get much out of his since getting it a couple of months ago- Cubase SX user)- not saying that Live is completely flawless but I would say its the most well implemented piece of software I've used since Notator in the early 90's Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 22:37, Martin Dust wrote: Stick a Powercore and Virus Ti and you won't be :) They're know bugs Jason and have been there for a long time, I love the program just sick of waiting... - Original Message - From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
no problems here either...but the midi is pretty simplified so i'm still using cubase for more delicate midi projects... what kinda bugs have you runt into martin? ps that richard h kirk track on the dust science myspaz page does it for me bigtime... -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 5, 2006 5:32 PM To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I have to say, it works pretty damn well for me- using two MOTU Midi Express XT's with 8 outs each and I'm well happy Jason On 5 Apr 2006, at 19:00, Martin Dust wrote: You have such a way with words, the wrong way - and when I start getting paid as a bug tester for something they charge $500 for I'll give you or ableton a bell, until then I'll wait until they've finished the next 12 builds before they get midi to work properly, if that's alright with you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] use it, it exists for a reason
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Nh, I'M not saying ANYTHING'S off topic. I'm saying this cat has habitually called folks out for being techno-but-not-Detroit or Detroit-but-not-techno or any other type of OT he can think of, meanwhile lobbing troll comments to one of the most polite people I've read messages from here (martin). Just saying cool out and talk about something or don't. but no need to be rude without provocation. For the record though. I thought it was a pretty interesting thread until it got to the point of, I know more about what monolake uses than you. I think the list is good for all things music that can be remotely traced back to tha d. which is pretty much everything. So I don't trip as much about OT (actually not at all). Unless it devolves into something rude and ugly. Which his comments were. And I agree about the spirit of Detroit thing Jason said about monolake. Maybe I'm just getting soft. Or maybe I've outlived my use to this list (as if I've ever had one :) Kks mwnb NP: Violent Femmes - Children Of The Revolution -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:02 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: /0; Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? you're saying that monolake is offtopic on a techno list, and j dilla isn't?! On Apr 5, 2006, at 16:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I've got a Powercore (plus warious Waldorf and Acess 3rd party plug ins) There's a few memory problems with the Powercore but it seems that when you add a Ti it becomes a world of pain, a good friend sold their Ti because of the grief... and it too works fine with Live on my system- the Virus Ti seems to cause a lot of people a lot of problems (in particular a Mr Rei Loci of Iridite who hasn't been able to get much out of his since getting it a couple of months ago- Cubase SX user)- not saying that Live is completely flawless but I would say its the most well implemented piece of software I've used since Notator in the early 90's I have no problems at all with 4.1.4 but five has been a pain where midi has been concerned. Dropping notes, holding notes and switching patches - and if you do a long jam session the whole thing starts to lose sync... M
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
no problems here either...but the midi is pretty simplified so i'm still using cubase for more delicate midi projects... what kinda bugs have you runt into martin? All kinds :) Crashes, missing data, out of sync mostly ps that richard h kirk track on the dust science myspaz page does it for me bigtime... Yeah, he still does the biz after all this time, I really love his work m
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
h, I'M not saying ANYTHING'S off topic. I'm saying this cat has .habitually called folks out for being techno-but-not-Detroit or Detroit-but-not-techno or any other type of OT he can think of, meanwhile lobbing troll comments to one of the most polite people I've read messages from here (martin). Hey Kamal, thanks for the props but don't worry about me, I can take the harsh comments, there's no harm done. m
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Oh man, I didn't get offended personally. I can get all ocd about fairness sometimes though (need meds). Thanks for the kind words. So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... Kks mwnb -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:55 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal; Matt Kane's Brain Cc: Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? I'm sorry if what I said offended you Kamal. and as I do comment when the list goes off topic, you're perfectly justified in your desire to call me out when you feel I've gone off topic. you and I have no problem, I hope this finds you in better spirits. -Joe
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I have no problems at all with 4.1.4 but five has been a pain where midi has been concerned. Dropping notes, holding notes and switching patches - and if you do a long jam session the whole thing starts to lose sync... ohh yeah, rewind...i got those same problems. i just figured it was my comp or something. i just redo until it comes out ok, which is my normal process anyways.
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... Black Dog did a few remixes for her, Caroline Martin is also worth checking out, she has a really soft lullaby voice that manages to transfer a lot of feelings - I like her work a lot, she did a track with us but we haven't mixed it yet. Have you tried Fire+Ice/Death In June stuff? m
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I have no problems at all with 4.1.4 but five has been a pain where midi has been concerned. Dropping notes, holding notes and switching patches - and if you do a long jam session the whole thing starts to lose sync... ohh yeah, rewind...i got those same problems. i just figured it was my comp or something. i just redo until it comes out ok, which is my normal process anyways. It's more for live stuff really, it's fine with pure audio but we wanted to add more machines to set up to help break things up and random factors - I guess it will work out soon enough...
RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Have you tried Fire+Ice/Death In June stuff? Nope not at all. Thanks for the response. I got tired of vocals in dance music back in the old times when all the vocalist were either screaming, wailing, or trying to sound sexier than the next. Haven't really given in to vocals fully since (barring the odd gripping track here or there). My girl is wy into vocals though, so consequently I've been coming more round to them. I've liked what I've heard of the folk/electro hybrid, as folk singers tend to concentrate more on what they're conveying vocally than the amount of sex (or any other type of)appeal in their voice. I'm stoked about it (hence the collabo) and I'll definitely give those recommendations a listen. KKS MWNB -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:05 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... Black Dog did a few remixes for her, Caroline Martin is also worth checking out, she has a really soft lullaby voice that manages to transfer a lot of feelings - I like her work a lot, she did a track with us but we haven't mixed it yet. m
RE: (313) techno/house vs folk music
So no one with any kind of anything on the folk/electro thing? Everybody as unfamiliar as me with beth orton's music then I take it? Very well then... i have heard her name but im unfamiliar i think. dunno much about folk electro either, is cornelius in that area? my old neighbours used to play it for me and some of it i liked pretty good...i think there's a lot out there but most of it is tied a bit too much to indie rock hipster angst for me..actually there's a lot of it in my town probably. i'm soon to dive into a similar area tho, sampling my dad's guitar playing (folk blues) and trying to fit it into some raw rb/house kinda stuff...hopefully to cap off with vocals from an established female singer who used to do stuff on naked music (and lenny kravitz ha!)...if it comes to anything remains to be seen... when i think of folk/acoustic guitar and electronic music tho, i always think of that arovane album uhhh...i forget the name but it's loaded with heavily processed acoustic guitar (no vox tho), and it's beautiful...but not so much a folk music/electronic music hybrid as just arovane style using acoustic guitar, but man
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Coil and Sol Invictus may be worth a look then, although I recommend to listen before you buy as some of it may be a tad way out there - I'll have a dig through my collection and see if I can add more names to the list... Have you tried Fire+Ice/Death In June stuff? Nope not at all. Thanks for the response. I got tired of vocals in dance music back in the old times when all the vocalist were either screaming, wailing, or trying to sound sexier than the next. Haven't really given in to vocals fully since (barring the odd gripping track here or there). My girl is wy into vocals though, so consequently I've been coming more round to them. I've liked what I've heard of the folk/electro hybrid, as folk singers tend to concentrate more on what they're conveying vocally than the amount of sex (or any other type of)appeal in their voice. I'm stoked about it (hence the collabo) and I'll definitely give those recommendations a listen. I'd agree, just look at what Cash did with Hurt, that track and video is one of the most moving things I've heard in a long time...I always thought Los Hermanos may move into this area... m
Re: (313) what's in the bag
wow but there are a lot of appetizing releases out this week...just had a listen to about 30 records from the new rushhour mailout...lots of quality stuff, but i'm super thrifty with record purchases these days so i mostly only get excited about stuff that REALLY grabs me...and out of all these there was really only one that did tom project on sound signature!! i love some theo/omar/malik, but am by no means a diehard fan, have even been called a hater :P -- but this is instant classic in my opinion. SO hot! steve rachmad joel mull - amsterdam session 2 (music man) driving dark, funky freaky things on b-side 'melophobia' hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track james t. cotton - oochio coo (spectral sound) very rough chicago / vocaled house track kaay alexi - pop n puss (catwash records) the man is definitely back on the block - three times great phreaky mental house things (another nice one on dopewax) lindstrom - another station (todd terje) (fgeedelity) great energetic disco driving thing by todd terje tom project - renaissance (sound signature) omar s, theo parrish and marcellis pittman drop down this freaked dark acidic house jam 69 - pungtang (planet e) great great, great new versions of sub seducer and puntang (twice) akabu - phuture bound (z records) nice long building remix by ame burial remixes - free for all (sound stream remix) (burial mix) francois k remix is completely awful, but sound stream remix is completely superb! -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it?
I'm sorry if what I said offended you Kamal. and as I do comment when the list goes off topic, you're perfectly justified in your desire to call me out when you feel I've gone off topic. you and I have no problem, I hope this finds you in better spirits. -Joe - Original Message - From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? Nh, I'M not saying ANYTHING'S off topic. I'm saying this cat has habitually called folks out for being techno-but-not-Detroit or Detroit-but-not-techno or any other type of OT he can think of, meanwhile lobbing troll comments to one of the most polite people I've read messages from here (martin). Just saying cool out and talk about something or don't. but no need to be rude without provocation. For the record though. I thought it was a pretty interesting thread until it got to the point of, I know more about what monolake uses than you. I think the list is good for all things music that can be remotely traced back to tha d. which is pretty much everything. So I don't trip as much about OT (actually not at all). Unless it devolves into something rude and ugly. Which his comments were. And I agree about the spirit of Detroit thing Jason said about monolake. Maybe I'm just getting soft. Or maybe I've outlived my use to this list (as if I've ever had one :) Kks mwnb NP: Violent Femmes - Children Of The Revolution -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:02 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Cc: /0; Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org 313 Subject: Re: (313) how Richie does it -- how do most do it? you're saying that monolake is offtopic on a techno list, and j dilla isn't?! On Apr 5, 2006, at 16:51, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: Let's see monolake? Max/msp? Doesn't sound Detroit to me...Dumba$$... -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Richard H. Kirk does it real good
- Original Message - From: Martin Dust ps that richard h kirk track on the dust science myspaz page does it for me bigtime... Yeah, he still does the biz after all this time, I really love his work The new RHK 12 is great stuff: Dark Magus crossed with Clonk. Touché. seek
(313) Vault Radio - Mar. 29, 2006
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Re: (313) what's in the bag
that tom project is the mystery track i've been searching for for these last couple months such a sick track. -Joe - Original Message - From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:26 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in the bag wow but there are a lot of appetizing releases out this week...just had a listen to about 30 records from the new rushhour mailout...lots of quality stuff, but i'm super thrifty with record purchases these days so i mostly only get excited about stuff that REALLY grabs me...and out of all these there was really only one that did tom project on sound signature!! i love some theo/omar/malik, but am by no means a diehard fan, have even been called a hater :P -- but this is instant classic in my opinion. SO hot! steve rachmad joel mull - amsterdam session 2 (music man) driving dark, funky freaky things on b-side 'melophobia' hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track james t. cotton - oochio coo (spectral sound) very rough chicago / vocaled house track kaay alexi - pop n puss (catwash records) the man is definitely back on the block - three times great phreaky mental house things (another nice one on dopewax) lindstrom - another station (todd terje) (fgeedelity) great energetic disco driving thing by todd terje tom project - renaissance (sound signature) omar s, theo parrish and marcellis pittman drop down this freaked dark acidic house jam 69 - pungtang (planet e) great great, great new versions of sub seducer and puntang (twice) akabu - phuture bound (z records) nice long building remix by ame burial remixes - free for all (sound stream remix) (burial mix) francois k remix is completely awful, but sound stream remix is completely superb! -- http://nomorewords.net http://www.delsin.org http://www.myspace.com/planetdelsin
Re: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix
and all i can tell you is that i asked luciano during his set at panoramabar if it was him who did it and he declined. btw: does anyone have the link to that record on discogs? been looking for it, too. thx, c* fab. schrieb: all i can tell you is that i have it, but not in vinyl ;) and it is also credited to Luciano. fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: (313) minimal michael jackson bad remix Dan Bell played this catchy techno mj remix of Bad over the weekend. Someone told me it's off a Villalobos release of mj remixes but I don't see it on his discogs page at a quick glance. Anyone know it? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 04/04/2006
Re: (313) how Richie doses it -- how do most do it?
- Original Message - From: Martin Dust Current 93/Nurse With Wound/Coil and Sol Invictus may be worth a look then, although I recommend to listen before you buy as some of it may be a tad way out there - This NWW is a downright hoot: http://www.discogs.com/release/96781 (Light years from Detroit, imo, however a definite blast, no matter.) seek
Re: (313) how Richie doses it -- how do most do it?
This NWW is a downright hoot: http://www.discogs.com/release/96781 (Light years from Detroit, imo, however a definite blast, no matter.) seek I wouldn't say light years but I do know what you mean, you can define the Detroit sound but it's only ever a direction, the influence and what people do with it is more powerful I believe...There's a spirit to it... m
Re: (313) what's in the bag
you can listen to both tracks on the latest beatsinspace.net show, 28march06, kristian from ame in the mix. and please, how good is the the henrik schwarz remix of coldcut's feat. robert owens walk a mile?! first track on that show. blows me totally away. an instant classic, i'd say. c* hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track akabu - phuture bound (z records) nice long building remix by ame
Re: (313) what's in the bag
btw, you can listen to both tracks on the latest beatsinspace.net show, 28march06, kristian from ame in the mix. lots of great new tunes. and please, how good is the the henrik schwarz remix of coldcut's feat. robert owens walk a mile?! first track on that show. blows me totally away. an instant classic, i'd say. c* hendrik schwarz/ame/dixon - where we at (innervisions) finally on vinyl, with derrick carter vocals, ultimate house track akabu - phuture bound (z records) nice long building remix by ame
