(313) Detroiter's?

2007-02-06 Thread Svagr, Jodie
Hey guys and gals,

I'm looking for a few people from this list who may live in the Detroit area. 
I'm going to be in Detroit from this Friday (feb 9th) for 10 days.  It's been 
nearly 4 months since I've been in the city, currently studying in Liverpool, 
UK, and I typically use this list as one of my helps to keep updated about the 
where's and whats of the cities scene.  

Let me know if you are in the area, as I would love to be able to meet up with 
some of the Detroiter's on this list.  Besides my being curious to meet with 
the 313 Detroiters, this type of international communication network (ie the 
313 list) is the type of thing my University dissertation is about, and I'd be 
interested to interview a few people from this list who live in the Detroit 
area.

Hit me back off-list if your going to be around,
All the best,
Jodie





Re: (313) Detroiter's?

2007-02-06 Thread David Powers

Hi Jodie (and interested Detroit area list members), I'll be in
Detroit on February 17 playing the following show, maybe you'd enjoy
stopping by! Kero and I will both be doing Live PA's.

February 17, 2007
Nocturnal Sounds presents: RE-ANIMATOR

KERO (Detroit Underground - Windsor)
CYBORG K (Volatl, nbfc, Blazaebla - Chicago)

Josh Surma (Klectic - Detroit)
Mike Sturgis (A.O.D. - Detroit)

@ Foran's Irish Pub
626 Woodward
Downtown Detroit
$5 all night

~David


On 2/5/07, Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey guys and gals,

I'm looking for a few people from this list who may live in the Detroit area. 
I'm going to be in Detroit from this Friday (feb 9th) for 10 days.  It's been 
nearly 4 months since I've been in the city, currently studying in Liverpool, 
UK, and I typically use this list as one of my helps to keep updated about the 
where's and whats of the cities scene.

Let me know if you are in the area, as I would love to be able to meet up with 
some of the Detroiter's on this list.  Besides my being curious to meet with 
the 313 Detroiters, this type of international communication network (ie the 
313 list) is the type of thing my University dissertation is about, and I'd be 
interested to interview a few people from this list who live in the Detroit 
area.

Hit me back off-list if your going to be around,
All the best,
Jodie






Re: (313) Prince @ Super Bowl

2007-02-06 Thread m50

At 11:38 2007/2/5, you wrote:

On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wow - really fantastic show he put on.  It was more like a Prince concert
than a half-time show.  Surprised at how little uproar there is over his,
ahem, guitar solo.
;-D


the symbol guitar projected against that sheet so it looked like
prince has a huge cock was much more offensive that jj's titty a
couple years back.

tom



If by offensive you mean awesome.

m50  



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread /0

gosh tom, thats really terrible.

(really)
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!



poor white people! theyre at such a disadvantage here.

tom

On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Actually the UK group they bought it from maintains some of the 
properties,
and some of the rights. The deal was a steal, and alot of people were 
upset

about it because it wasn't the highest offer.
Also you can't compare poor having nothing Indians with anyone else in 
north
American, because although they are on reservations, they have rights 
that

supercede Americans. Any reservation can prop up a wooden shed and shove
some slot machines inside of there, such as the case of Soaring Eagle
Casino, on the Isabella Reservation of Mt Plesant, Michigan. I can't put
slot machines in my garage and let the neighbors come over and play, the
local police would put the smack down on me in a heartbeat. ALSO, they 
don't
have to respect our Labor Laws, and they don't. You get injured on the 
job,
they shoo you right out the door, and get the next poor soul in. Plus I 
am

quite sure they do not pay the same taxes as everyone else. On top of it,
they are protected by State Police, and an entire federal gov't. Now you 
can
say they would rather be their own country, but don't say they rose up 
from

nothing like everyone else. Because no other group in the world has those
kind of circumstances.
Have a Nice Day,
Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!








Tom - the Seminoles, as a whole, never signed a peace treaty. Also, they
were not all removed from the Florida swamps. They were in poverty but
from that they have sprung up to become probably the richest First 
Nations

people in the entire US. And they own the Hard Rock Cafe chain.
Their current revenue is around $1 billion per year. It's thought that
each tribe member earns about $7,000 per month just from tribal revenue
(casinos provide most of it). Because they own the Hard Rock Cafes they
also own everything inside which includes all of the valued memorabilia -
mostly that of white culture. Means they've become a museum of sorts of
white culture just as our museums own their artifacts. An interesting
turn of the tables.

Yes, the US government was merciless with the Seminole but look into 
where

they are today and you'll see that they're doing better than most white
middle class communities.
That was my point. Since this is OT I'll end it there.

MEK

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/05/2007 
11:31:58

AM:

 On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You should read the entire article you posted:

 i did. the end of the second seminole war was like this:

 Colonel Worth recommended early in 1842 that the remaining Seminoles
 be left in peace if they would stay in southern Florida. Worth
 eventually received authorization to leave the remaining Seminoles on
 an informal reservation in southwestern Florida, and to declare an end
 to the war on a date of his choosing.

 also:

 Worth returned to Florida at the beginning of November 1842. He soon
 decided that Tiger Tail and Otiarche had had taken too long to make up
 their minds on what to do, and ordered that they be brought in. Tiger
 Tail was so ill that he had to be carried on a litter, and he died in
 New Orleans waiting for transportation to the Indian territory. The
 other Indians in northern Florida were also captured and sent west. By
 April 1843 only one regiment, the Eighth Infantry, was still in
 Florida. In November 1843 Worth reported that the only Indians left in
 Florida were 42 Seminole warriors, 33 Mikasukis, 10 Creeks and 10
 Tallahassees, with women and children bringing the total to about 300.
 Worth also stated that these Indians were all living on the
 reservation and were no longer a threat to the white population of
 Florida.[66]

 42 seminole warriors all on the reservation? doesnt sound too fun to 
 me!


 tom



 
 Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and 
industry-leading

spam and email virus protection.





Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner

Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

On 06/02/2007, at 3:43 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in  
Detroit.  It may seem trivial,
but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other  
cities.




pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i
challenge you guys to name 10 pop music artists from pittsburgh. dont
count jazz since hard rock doesnt.

tom





(313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's up with the festival?!?!?!)

2007-02-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Despite the existence of The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA) (cool,
wording eh?) permitting 'class III' gaming only by native tribes on
reservations or trust lands, you must still apply for a license for such
gaming in the usual way. If for any reason the State or Federal
authorities thinks it's unwise to grant it, you won't get one. In other
words, whilst it's possible for some *exclusivity* to occur on such
lands, there is no preferential treatment in the standards required
before such a license is granted.

Just so we know before we start shooting off our mouths in a damaging
way.

K

-Original Message-
From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 February 2007 06:26
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

gosh tom, thats really terrible.

(really)
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!


 poor white people! theyre at such a disadvantage here.

 tom

 On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually the UK group they bought it from maintains some of the 
 properties,
 and some of the rights. The deal was a steal, and alot of people were

 upset
 about it because it wasn't the highest offer.
 Also you can't compare poor having nothing Indians with anyone else
in 
 north
 American, because although they are on reservations, they have rights

 that
 supercede Americans. Any reservation can prop up a wooden shed and
shove
 some slot machines inside of there, such as the case of Soaring Eagle
 Casino, on the Isabella Reservation of Mt Plesant, Michigan. I can't
put
 slot machines in my garage and let the neighbors come over and play,
the
 local police would put the smack down on me in a heartbeat. ALSO,
they 
 don't
 have to respect our Labor Laws, and they don't. You get injured on
the 
 job,
 they shoo you right out the door, and get the next poor soul in. Plus
I 
 am
 quite sure they do not pay the same taxes as everyone else. On top of
it,
 they are protected by State Police, and an entire federal gov't. Now
you 
 can
 say they would rather be their own country, but don't say they rose
up 
 from
 nothing like everyone else. Because no other group in the world has
those
 kind of circumstances.
 Have a Nice Day,
 Steve

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 8:00 PM
  Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!








 Tom - the Seminoles, as a whole, never signed a peace treaty. Also,
they
 were not all removed from the Florida swamps. They were in poverty
but
 from that they have sprung up to become probably the richest First 
 Nations
 people in the entire US. And they own the Hard Rock Cafe chain.
 Their current revenue is around $1 billion per year. It's thought
that
 each tribe member earns about $7,000 per month just from tribal
revenue
 (casinos provide most of it). Because they own the Hard Rock Cafes
they
 also own everything inside which includes all of the valued
memorabilia -
 mostly that of white culture. Means they've become a museum of
sorts of
 white culture just as our museums own their artifacts. An
interesting
 turn of the tables.

 Yes, the US government was merciless with the Seminole but look into 
 where
 they are today and you'll see that they're doing better than most
white
 middle class communities.
 That was my point. Since this is OT I'll end it there.

 MEK

 Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/05/2007 
 11:31:58
 AM:

  On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   You should read the entire article you posted:
 
  i did. the end of the second seminole war was like this:
 
  Colonel Worth recommended early in 1842 that the remaining
Seminoles
  be left in peace if they would stay in southern Florida. Worth
  eventually received authorization to leave the remaining Seminoles
on
  an informal reservation in southwestern Florida, and to declare an
end
  to the war on a date of his choosing.
 
  also:
 
  Worth returned to Florida at the beginning of November 1842. He
soon
  decided that Tiger Tail and Otiarche had had taken too long to make
up
  their minds on what to do, and ordered that they be brought in.
Tiger
  Tail was so ill that he had to be carried on a litter, and he died
in
  New Orleans waiting for transportation to the Indian territory. The
  other Indians in northern Florida were also captured and sent west.
By
  April 1843 only one regiment, the Eighth Infantry, was still in
  Florida. In November 1843 Worth reported that the only Indians left
in
  Florida were 42 Seminole warriors, 33 Mikasukis, 10 Creeks and 10
  Tallahassees, with women and children bringing the total to about
300.
  Worth also stated that these Indians were all living on the
  reservation and were no longer a threat to the white 

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Chester
Alright, y'all convinced me.   Any recommendations for places to stay 
that can be booked now?



David Powers wrote:

There will be a 22-hour party at Buzz Bar this year... at which I'll
be playing... should be a hot party.

Most people I know agreed that Agave was the highlight party of last
year. Not all the mixing was spectacular (though appendics shuffle and
ryan elliot were good I think, it's all a bit fuzzy though), but
drinking champaigne and mojitos in the sunlight at 8 am and being
surrounded by friends all smiling and dancing like mad was just a
classic moment... I'm looking for the Buzz Bar party to be the sequel
for 2007.

On a side note, I wonder how many years it will be before I finally
get to play the fest, I may have missed my chance, as Blazaebla (local
Detroit label) had some artists performing there last year, and I
released with them just recently. Had I been a year earlier I would
have been in luck. Although, I played at three parties last year and
it was really fun, I guess playing the festival proper isn't
necessarily going to be a better experience than playing the parties.

~David

On 2/5/07, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

tie afterparties to the fest is my idea from last year . . . although
with the fair number of lame-o party producers in town it's bound
to be a difficult process . . . but there are cool ones too like te
Fi-Nite guys, Organic, the Buzz Bar, etc. just to name some
that have passed my rigorous quality assurance testing . . .

And Cannon-whatever.  Whoever they are . . . :

fh


-
The Detroit News article below has way more info than the Freep 
article:


http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 



Much better sound - Funktion 1. They've been planning for a long time.
Partial lineup out Feb 15. Beatport stage. New stage facing the 
river where
the Music Institute tent used to be. Maybe no more underground 
stage. One

stage with only Detroit artists (Yeah!). Tickets probably $40 for the
weekend. Tie after parties to the fest.

I'm in.

Cheers!

_
Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger.
http://get.live.com/messenger/overview










Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.


i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom


Re: (313) Prince @ Super Bowl

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If by offensive you mean awesome.


i just mean by the standards of what america deems inoffensive
enough to show on network television on a sunday evening.

tom


Re: (313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's up with the festival?!?!?!)

2007-02-06 Thread kent williams

Don't mean to single you out, Ken, but ...

As important as the history of Native Americans and their relationship
to European conquerors is to the United States, and perhaps the entire
world, it has F*CK ALL to do with detroit techno.

On 2/6/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Despite the existence of The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA) (cool,


RE: (313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's up with the festival?!?!?!)

2007-02-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Yeah yeah sure Kent. One day you'll jump in to declare OT when the posts
turn insulting, abusive, just plain misinformed *and* OT one time.


-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 February 2007 13:51
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's
up with the festival?!?!?!)

Don't mean to single you out, Ken, but ...

As important as the history of Native Americans and their relationship
to European conquerors is to the United States, and perhaps the entire
world, it has F*CK ALL to do with detroit techno.

On 2/6/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Despite the existence of The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA)
(cool,


Re: (313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's up with the festival?!?!?!)

2007-02-06 Thread kent williams

I have jumped in and tried to stop abusive threads.  Maybe I've let
things go on longer than some people have wanted, but this isn't a
precise thing, being a list admin.  And I'm an individual with my own
prejudices.  One of them is that I'm not super receptive to Make the
mean man go away e-mails.

I'm not a cop, and you're all big kids.  You're going to have to put
up with a few potholes on the information superhigheway, and a few
jerkos who hog both lanes.  It's actually the only part of being on
the internets that prepares you for real life.

On 2/6/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah yeah sure Kent. One day you'll jump in to declare OT when the posts
turn insulting, abusive, just plain misinformed *and* OT one time.




(313) London March Meltdown

2007-02-06 Thread Toby Frith
Read it and weep! - Nice inflection of Detroit in there. 

3/3 - Fabric - Rhythm  Sound, Tikiman, Kode 9, Anthony Rother, Henrik Schwarz
9/3 - Bleep43 @ Corsica
10/3 - Omar S  @ 54
17/3 - Detroit Beatdown @ Fabric
24/3 - I-F, Mr Pauli and Dexter @ Fabric, Split (don't know who's playing) plus 
Bloc Weekender in Norfolk
31/3 - Prosumer @To the Bone/ Sud - Cassy @ Rhythm Factory




For all the latest news and comment visit telegraph.co.uk, the UK's most 
visited quality newspaper website.

This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham Palace Road, 
London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593. This message, its 
contents and any attachments to it are private and confidential. Any 
unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this 
message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the 
intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Neither we nor the sender 
accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan 
attachments (if any). 

The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or those of 
our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the author.

Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended 
recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our email 
systems. 

Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or 
recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders 
and information.


RE: (313) London March Meltdown

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Kendrick
Split was Steve Rachman, but I think its been cancelled.

That RS line up at fabric is wicked.

-Original Message-
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 06 February 2007 14:22
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) London March Meltdown 


Read it and weep! - Nice inflection of Detroit in there. 

3/3 - Fabric - Rhythm  Sound, Tikiman, Kode 9, Anthony Rother, Henrik
Schwarz 9/3 - Bleep43 @ Corsica 10/3 - Omar S  @ 54 17/3 - Detroit
Beatdown @ Fabric 24/3 - I-F, Mr Pauli and Dexter @ Fabric, Split (don't
know who's playing) plus Bloc Weekender in Norfolk 31/3 - Prosumer @To
the Bone/ Sud - Cassy @ Rhythm Factory




For all the latest news and comment visit telegraph.co.uk, the UK's most
visited quality newspaper website.

This e-mail is from Telegraph Media Group Limited - 111 Buckingham
Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT registered in England under No 451593.
This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private and
confidential. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the
whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is
prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us
immediately. Neither we nor the sender accepts any responsibility for
viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). 

The content of this email does not necessarily reflect our views or
those of our officers and we take no responsibility for the views of the
author.

Emails sent and received may be read by people other than the intended
recipient and may be monitored to ensure efficient operation of our
email systems. 

Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or
recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming
orders and information.


(313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread robin


Riiight.

Seems we've drifted off course and as I have some new records recently 
arrive I'll prattle on about them if anyone would like to join me:


New World Aquarium - The Twenty EP - Delsin
Absolutely brilliant ep of deep techno. One side more on the 
ambient/beatless tip and the other side contains The Twenty, a lush 
more dancefloor oriented number and my fave track of the ep Rox, nice 
and slow and deep.


San Proper and Steven de Peven - Propers Amsterdam Family Series Part 1 
- Rush Hour Ltd
I love this, stupidly repetitive yet involving, the main track PamPam 
is the one, the other two are slightly different versions, this one 
works best as a track though. I guess the style here is beatdown as it's 
so slow, but I guess it's techno and minimal too. Very cool.


San Proper and Tom Trago - Propers Amsterdam Family Series Part 2 - Rush 
Hour Ltd
Caterpillar Butter Plus is a KDJ style track, Love Flu is another 
wicked repetetive slow-techno monster. These two eps wouldn't be out of 
place on Planet E. Top.


Workshop01 - Workshop
I guess this is minimal but all tracks have a nice shuffle to them that 
makes them work better than most cookiecutter minimal tracks. The A1 and 
the B2 tracks are the standouts  (both in a style like things like 
Repeat Orchestra). Solid ep, worth checking.


100Hz - TrustLove - Hi Phen Music Delivery
An old 100Hz track, apparently never released until now. The original 
1999 mix is the best one for me. Orgue Electronique weigh in with 
another old-chicago sounding mix (sometimes I tire of that style 
though). Patrick Pulsinger's mix is wicked as well, deep menacing with a 
hint of electro.  The repetition of the vocal kinda wears (as maybe does 
the sentiment) but the way it's delivered works well.


Obsolete Music Technology - My Neurosis - Emphasis
Usual high quality Tang release. Deep but just jacking enough to not be 
bland. The title track the most chicago influenced and haunting with a 
different twist from Jamal Moss on the fierce 326 mix. Jamal Moss here 
not going mad at pushing levels of the meter, which is a welcome releif 
as that's when he's at his best.


Eamonn Doyle - Ghost of the Machine - Herz
Ace Ep of deep techno. The title track working the best for me.

That'll do for now. Anyone else got some newly released records worth 
shouting about?




robin...


Re: (313) London March Meltdown

2007-02-06 Thread robin


Toby, is Convextion in that lot somewhere?

Him and Mr. $tinkworx are up in Manchester and Glasgow in March too.

robin...

Toby Frith wrote:
Read it and weep! - Nice inflection of Detroit in there. 


3/3 - Fabric - Rhythm  Sound, Tikiman, Kode 9, Anthony Rother, Henrik Schwarz
9/3 - Bleep43 @ Corsica
10/3 - Omar S  @ 54
17/3 - Detroit Beatdown @ Fabric
24/3 - I-F, Mr Pauli and Dexter @ Fabric, Split (don't know who's playing) plus 
Bloc Weekender in Norfolk
31/3 - Prosumer @To the Bone/ Sud - Cassy @ Rhythm Factory




Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Aidan O'Doherty

i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation?


On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom



Re: (313) London March Meltdown

2007-02-06 Thread fab.

Tristan is playing at this one in room 2...


31/3 - Prosumer @To the Bone/ Sud - Cassy @ Rhythm Factory






info:

Süd's 10 Release party With

Room 1
Cassy ( Perlon , Playhouse , Panorama bar , Hardwax )
Portable / Body code  ( Süd , Karat , Spectral , Scape , Background )
Marco Shutle
Lakuti

Room 2
Nick Craddock
Stefano
Tristan Watkins aka Phonopsia

@ The Rhythm Factory 16 - 18 Whitechapel Road , London E1 1EW
10 pm - 6 am
£10/£8 concession to our mailinglist subscribers . 



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

Tom wrote:

pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i
challenge you guys to name 10 pop music artists from pittsburgh. dont
count jazz since hard rock doesnt.


On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:45, Aidan O'Doherty wrote:


i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation?


On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom



--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to
name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock
cafe!

to

On 2/6/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation?


On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

 i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
 that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
 pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

 tom




Re: (313) Native American Gaming (Was a long time ago: what's up with the festival?!?!?!)

2007-02-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Sorry about that Kent - I could have taken it off list earlier.  I just get
angry when people spew lies and misconceptions about what Native Americans
are getting away with.
In a way, it does have to do with Detroit techno just as the African
diaspora has to do with Detroit techno.  Just couldn't find a way to
connect it to Ma Ya Ya or Tobacco Ties yet...

would have gotten there eventually... maybe if conversation had turned to
the Black Seminoles.

;-)
MEK

kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/06/2007 07:51:08 AM:

 Don't mean to single you out, Ken, but ...

 As important as the history of Native Americans and their relationship
 to European conquerors is to the United States, and perhaps the entire
 world, it has F*CK ALL to do with detroit techno.

 On 2/6/07, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Despite the existence of The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA) (cool,



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread robin


No one got any new tunes then?

;)

robin...

Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to
name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock
cafe!

to

On 2/6/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation?


On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.

 i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
 that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
 pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

 tom




Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


New World Aquarium - The Twenty EP - Delsin
Absolutely brilliant ep of deep techno. One side more on the
ambient/beatless tip and the other side contains The Twenty, a lush
more dancefloor oriented number and my fave track of the ep Rox, nice
and slow and deep.

San Proper and Steven de Peven - Propers Amsterdam Family Series Part 1
- Rush Hour Ltd
I love this, stupidly repetitive yet involving, the main track PamPam
is the one, the other two are slightly different versions, this one
works best as a track though. I guess the style here is beatdown as it's
so slow, but I guess it's techno and minimal too. Very cool.


i need to get that NWA and that rush hour things sounds good too, i
need to check it. i saw on juno that theres a new tony allen 12 on
honest jon's with a maurizio mix on it, has anyone heard it? as good
as the mark ernestus one?

tmo


Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread robin

i saw on juno that theres a new tony allen 12 on
honest jon's with a maurizio mix on it, has anyone heard it? as good
as the mark ernestus one?


I heard the clips of the moritz mix (on piccadilly's site). It's in the 
RS style (that's their thing nowadays). Sounds very nice, it's on my 
wants list.


robin...


Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Martin Dust

Tom, we are sending over Def Leppard now, you can have em...

m

On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to
name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock
cafe!

to






Re: (313) New tunes. (Re: (313) deepchord...AWOL?)

2007-02-06 Thread KiDD*e
Another long waiting EP, does anybody had the chance to listen to some
excerpts of this upcoming DeepChord's release ?
http://www.discogs.com/release/874938
- KiDDy.


- Original Message - 
From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: (313) deepchord...AWOL?


 there are two deepchord remixes of convextion's miranda on the upcoming
miranda 2x12 on matrix...along with a remix by sean, a remix by echospace,
and an alternate mix by gerard


 -Original Message-
 From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Oct 31, 2006 5:40 AM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) deepchord...AWOL?
 
 hi listers,
 
 any news from the deepchord guys? i havent heard (about) any new releases
in
 a long time and the website seems to be down.
 
 are they no more?
 
 fab.
 
 CITYMORB MUSIC
 www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.mypace.com/citymorb
 
 out now: CTM002 SMBP - Stars Falling ep.
 next release: CTM004 Vermont - The Santa Cruz Operation ep.
 





Re: (313) New tunes. (Re: (313) deepchord...AWOL?)

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, KiDD*e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Another long waiting EP, does anybody had the chance to listen to some
excerpts of this upcoming DeepChord's release ?
http://www.discogs.com/release/874938


i listened to clips online, the one ambient cut was really nice but
the rest was unimpressive in the way that most DC stuff is to me. if
it was easy and cheap to get, maybe id pick it up. but i wont be going
out of my way and paying big $$$ for it.

tom


Re: (313) new tunes

2007-02-06 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, it's still a bit off topic but I did a bit of 45 hunting this weekend
and came up with a Glass House 7 on Invictus which was a Detroit soul
label run by Holland/Dozier/Holland.  Not so keen on the A side (Look What
We've Done to Love) but the flip has a seriously funky gospel tune called
Heaven is There to Guide Us.

http://www.soulfuldetroit.com/web01-soulfuldetroit/invictus.htm

Putting in an order for some techno very soon though... that new Redshape
one for sure.

MEK


robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/06/2007 09:37:21 AM:


 No one got any new tunes then?

 ;)

 robin...




Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Carlos de Brito
must hunt down the new nwaq and those two by san proper (totally new to me, 
infos anyone?), too. they sound right up my strasse.

as for news, not much over here. a few, tho:

there's a quite good martin buttrich remix for german electronic-pop act 
2raumwohnung called besser eght's nicht:
http://www.voices-records.de/shop/catalog/15764

the onur özer remix on the second remix ep is not bad either, but that's only 
if you don't mind the m-word. in a cadenza kinda vein.

if you like dark, psychdelic disco check the new new padded cell on dc 
recordings, moon menace.  
 
oh, and the forthcoming joakim album ´monsters  silly songs has nothing to 
do with his detrotish remix for antena's camino del sol nor lionel hampton's 
vibramatic. but: it's everything else. and it's crazy stuff. check his latest 
guest mix on beats in space and you'll get a slight idea.

c*


-- 
Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! 
Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer


Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Joel Gajewski
Woah, I didn't mean to stir the pot of Native American gaming and such.  I 
really don't consider Hard Rock an attraction personally, but people on 
vacation tend to gravitate toward them and buy the t-shirt.  As a kid, I always 
thought the one in Chicago was cool, but soon realized that the food was better 
at Ed Debevick's.  :p

J

- Original Message 
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 10:47:40 AM
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!


I don't understand the point of those Hard Rock cafe chain things. Like 
a themed upmarket mcdonalds init? Why's that considered an attraction?

OT I know.

robin...


Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
 On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in 
 Detroit.  It may seem trivial,
 but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other 
 cities.
 
 pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i
 challenge you guys to name 10 pop music artists from pittsburgh. dont
 count jazz since hard rock doesnt.
 
 tom


Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread robin



Carlos de Brito wrote:

must hunt down the new nwaq and those two by san proper (totally new to me, 
infos anyone?),


nwaq
http://www.discogs.com/release/870496

proper
http://www.discogs.com/release/892905
http://www.discogs.com/release/892916

:)

re: joakim: check his latest guest mix on beats in space and you'll 
get a slight idea.


i'll check that...thanks for the headsup

robin


(313) Bill Van Loo J Schnable Raindays

2007-02-06 Thread kent williams

This is some really nice music.  I've been a fan of Bill Van Loo's
music for a long time, and this collaboration between Bill and J
Schnable is a remarkably airy, subtle and tranquil piece of work.
Sample tracks here:

http://www.chromedecay.org/releases/cd004/

Though my jam is the track Awareness.  Fender Rhodes, echo chamber
guitar and finger snaps, with an unerring sense of what to play and
what to leave out. Like In A Silent Way by Miles Davis, there's a
feeling of minimal sufficiency to its construction and performance.
It implies more than it says, and yet to say more would be too much.
But it does that while sounding nothing like Miles Davis.

I hate comparing music, but if you like dubbed out techno or Boards of
Canada, you will love this CD.


Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Tristan Watkins
The NWAQ is dope. Just grabbed that Juju  Jordache on Real Soon after 
hearing it in Paul Hammond's set on Sonic Sunset this week. Got a Kai Alce 
on Real Soon from last year I'd missed too.


The new Non Stop DJs is bad as hell. Very techno for Ghetto Tech stuff.

Other than that I'm still working through '06. Just got a couple of Robert 
Babicz things last week that I'm feeling.


Cheers for the tips Robin, just grabbed a couple of those as well.

Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 



Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread robin


The NWAQ is dope. Just grabbed that Juju  Jordache on Real Soon after 
hearing it in Paul Hammond's set on Sonic Sunset this week. 


Oh yes, that's on my wants too. I'd heard clips and didn't think it was 
all that, but on that show it sounds very nice indeed.


robin...


Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Tristan Watkins
- Original Message - 
From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: (313) New tunes.




The NWAQ is dope. Just grabbed that Juju  Jordache on Real Soon after 
hearing it in Paul Hammond's set on Sonic Sunset this week.


Oh yes, that's on my wants too. I'd heard clips and didn't think it was 
all that, but on that show it sounds very nice indeed.


It's quite unique. I think it benefits from hearing it in its entirety. 
Those claps are stupidly big and the bendy bassline is very groovy.


Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.





uh-oh... tom and i agree on something again!




On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.


i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom




Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The NWAQ is dope. Just grabbed that Juju  Jordache on Real Soon after
hearing it in Paul Hammond's set on Sonic Sunset this week. Got a Kai Alce
on Real Soon from last year I'd missed too.


those real soon records are like impossible for me to get here. i need
the kai, the james duncan, and now the j+j. argh.

tom


Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

Groove dis has the J+J.
And now that they accept webform orders and their prices haven't risen 
quite as fast as everyone else's (because they have been too high for 
ages) and 'membership' isn't pushed as necessary to order, it brings 
them back into the circle of those-from-whom-I-deem transactable. I 
think they only ship once a week, though.
I ordered a good chunk from them over the weekend (including some of the 
hard-to-find Sonar Kollektiv things, Members of The Trick, etc.) and 
they've not gotten back to finalize the Paypal invoice yet.



jeff




those real soon records are like impossible for me to get here. i need
the kai, the james duncan, and now the j+j. argh.

tom



Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Groove dis has the J+J.
And now that they accept webform orders and their prices haven't risen
quite as fast as everyone else's (because they have been too high for
ages) and 'membership' isn't pushed as necessary to order, it brings
them back into the circle of those-from-whom-I-deem transactable. I
think they only ship once a week, though.
I ordered a good chunk from them over the weekend (including some of the
hard-to-find Sonar Kollektiv things, Members of The Trick, etc.) and
they've not gotten back to finalize the Paypal invoice yet.


iirc, they sheisted money out of detroit cats a while back, i havent
really messed with them since. which is too bad since they did stock
some nice stuff, though alot of nu-jazz wankery as well.

tom


Re: (313) Jeff Mills - One Man Spaceship

2007-02-06 Thread Greg Earle

FYI:

One Man Spaceship was posted to Usenet (in alt.binaries.boneless)
back almost 2 1/2 months ago.

   - Greg



Re: (313) Jeff Mills - One Man Spaceship

2007-02-06 Thread Greg Earle

P.S. There's a good interview with Jeff about One Man Spaceship
as well as growing up in Detroit, UR etc. here:

http://de-vice-2.tripod.com/id100.html

(Warning: There's an embedded hidden MP3 link in the page that you
can't turn off, so make sure your speakers are off/low before you
go to that page)

   - Greg




(313) We get Coachella, England gets Bloc Weekend.

2007-02-06 Thread Greg Earle

England 1, US nil.

http://www.blocweekend.com/BLOC-LINE-UP.html

Sigh.

   - Greg

P.S. Congratulations to 313's own Matt Chester who gets to play at this.
Ob313: Rob Hood's playing, too.



Re: (313) We get Coachella, England gets Bloc Weekend.

2007-02-06 Thread Matt Kane's Brain

Aw man they were going to have disco d :(

On Feb 6, 2007, at 14:51, Greg Earle wrote:

England 1, US nil.

http://www.blocweekend.com/BLOC-LINE-UP.html


--
matt kane's brain
http://hydrogenproject.com
aim - mkbatwerk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: (313) We get Coachella, England gets Bloc Weekend.

2007-02-06 Thread m50

Disco D in the Tecbloc Arena?

m50


At 11:51 2007/2/6, you wrote:

England 1, US nil.

http://www.blocweekend.com/BLOC-LINE-UP.html

Sigh.

   - Greg

P.S. Congratulations to 313's own Matt Chester who gets to play at this.
Ob313: Rob Hood's playing, too.




Re: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


it is indeed san proper debut

but he's very long time around as dj
one of my fave amsterdam/dutch deejays
very on the house/disco/techno tip
doing nice parties himself as well

he's djing as well at the next para3000 party
along with Carl Craig, and Antal from rush hour



Carlos de Brito schreef:

must hunt down the new nwaq and those two by san proper (totally new to me, 
infos anyone?), too. they sound right up my strasse.

as for news, not much over here. a few, tho:

there's a quite good martin buttrich remix for german electronic-pop act 2raumwohnung 
called besser eght's nicht:
http://www.voices-records.de/shop/catalog/15764

the onur özer remix on the second remix ep is not bad either, but that's only 
if you don't mind the m-word. in a cadenza kinda vein.

if you like dark, psychdelic disco check the new new padded cell on dc recordings, 
moon menace.  
   
oh, and the forthcoming joakim album ´monsters  silly songs has nothing to do with his detrotish 
remix for antena's camino del sol nor lionel hampton's vibramatic. but: it's everything 
else. and it's crazy stuff. check his latest guest mix on beats in space and you'll get a slight idea.

c*


  


RE: (313) We get Coachella, England gets Bloc Weekend.

2007-02-06 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2007 20:08
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) We get Coachella, England gets Bloc Weekend.
 
 Disco D in the Tecbloc Arena?
 
 m50

Yeah, that lineup was posted up a few weeks ago. Nothing funny going on they
just haven't revised it yet. 
 
Tristan 
===
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread /0

i like him already

- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!



On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.


i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom



Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i like him already


im sure youd love it, its absolutely awful.

tom


Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't mind fun, hipster stuff. He comes into the equation as being  
from Pittsburgh - Sienna Miller's favourite city, not. ;)


On 07/02/2007, at 12:18 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ.



i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact,
that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about
pittsburgh's hipster music scene.

tom





Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He comes into the equation as being
from Pittsburgh - Sienna Miller's favourite city, not. ;)


ill personally sock sienna miller if i ever see her.

tom


Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread /0

she'd probably beat you down :)
- Original Message - 
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!



On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

He comes into the equation as being
from Pittsburgh - Sienna Miller's favourite city, not. ;)


ill personally sock sienna miller if i ever see her.

tom


RE: (313) New tunes.

2007-02-06 Thread Tristan Watkins
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2007 21:09
 To: 313
 Subject: Re: (313) New tunes.
 
 it is indeed san proper debut

Well I only meant to get the second one but got the first one on accident
today, so tell him to think himself lucky! ;) They are both nice but I was
just trying to be ruthless. So much for that... 

Anyway, I got some more new stuff when I went back to get the one I intended
to order, including the new Sven Weisemann on Styrax, which prompted me to
pick up his split EP on Liebe Detail from last year. Both are sounding
pretty sick to my ears. I also got the Dan Curtin on Klang from last Summer
to try and bring things back a little closer to Detroit. Passed on his new
one on Tuning Spork though. Didn't really grab me, although the last track
on it sounded interesting. 

Oh, and while I'm at it, I got two of the three Terre Thaemelitz reissues on
Mule Electronic from last year recently, which have some seriously deep
house wares from the mid-late '90s on them, one of which is channeling some
Mr. Fingers 'Can You Feel It' vibes, another brings Theo Parrish vaguely to
mind, and another which has one of the best sustained sub bass sine tones
ever. It's very hypnotic. Just thought I'd mention in case I forgot to when
I got 'em, because they're dope! 
 
Tristan 
===
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]