RE: [313] Fw: LOST: Jeff Mills returns for an exclusive New Year' s Eve date

2001-11-28 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:02 PM
| 
|  LOST
|  Presents...
|  ...Jeff Mills (exclusive UK date)
| snip
| 
| Stiff competition from Plastic People on NYE however - Theo Parrish,
| Maurizio, Pharoah Sanders, Gilles Peterson, 4 Hero etc. snip

Yeah - and stiff competition for the both of them, from me playing booty in
Hackney! :)

http://www.wideadventure.com/djs.asp#district

(seriously, though, I don't know what's come over the people at Plastic
People - that is a bloody nice line-up for NYE)

Brendan

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RE: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-26 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:16 PM
| 
| don't mean to be nit pick but the laugh was done by Allison Moyet  of 
| Yazoo.  =)  Whatever happened to her?

She's currently starring in the musical Chicago in London... not sure how
I know this, I just do!

Brendan

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RE: [313] Suburban knight

2001-11-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know it's sad, but I need to get a track ID from anyone listening! SK just
played a track with a really wild, squelchy bassline - quite old sounding -
before going into Summer Funk by Purveyors of Fine Funk which is playing
now... does anyone know what that last track was?

| -Original Message-
| From: Colette Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 1:47 PM
| To: 313
| Subject: [313] Suburban knight
| 
| 
| Suburban Knight on www.groovetech.com
| 
| 2pm  - 4pm GMT Today (Friday 23rd Nov)
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RE: [313] Speaking of Jeff van dyke...

2001-11-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Scotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:09 PM
|
| oh yea he played tons of great track including sharivari and 
| an old acid
| house tune which says rock to the beat (who does that track?).

It might be Reece (Kevin Saunderson), on KMS from 1987, unless it was
another acid track with a similar sample...

Brendan

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[313] Biofeedback replacing DJs?

2001-11-15 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563

A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music
has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard,
meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like
the music they are dancing to...

I don't think it'll take off myself...

Brendan

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RE: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line

2001-11-14 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Gery Smismans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:29 PM
| 
| Could we describe techno as the first attempt by people living in
| western ( industrialised ) countries to tribal music ? Or would that
| be Jazz ?

Interesting point... I'd be tempted to say that techno was the first
specifically post-industrial tribal music. Other genres of music, like
rock'n'roll or hip-hop, have always had tribal aspects to them, but techno
is specifically post-industrial.

Brendan

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RE: FW: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line

2001-11-14 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:25 PM
| 
| My point from the get-go is that knowledge replaces 
| imagination.

I don't agree with this; however I would say that the perception of
knowledge *can* inhibit imagination. Namely that if we believe things to be
absolutely true when there exists even an infinitesimal level of doubt that
they actually are, we are limiting our imaginations.

The accumulation of knowledge itself will not necessarily limit the
imagination of a person, although certain types of people are often too
quick to accept certain things as absolute truths. Perhaps it could be said
that a reluctance to ask questions is often the sign of a dwindling level of
imaginative potency? Not really my specialist subject, though.

Ob313: that Bug Orchestra record is amazing isn't it?

Brendan

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RE: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line

2001-11-14 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:17 PM
| 
|  Interesting point... I'd be tempted to say that techno was the first
|  specifically post-industrial tribal music. Other genres of 
| music, like
|  rock'n'roll or hip-hop, have always had tribal aspects to 
| them, but techno
|  is specifically post-industrial.
| 
| This is interesting as wellhow are you defining post-indutrial?

The dictionary definition is a period in the development of an economy or
nation in which the relative importance of manufacturing lessens and that of
services, information, and research grows - most Western nations are now in
a post-industrial state and have been since the late 1970s. Although there
have been new genres of music since then besides techno, techno's origins in
Detroit - a city which became post-industrial a while before many others,
what with the collapse in auto manufacturing there and the subsequent decay
of the city - kind of mark it as a genre of music which ties very closely
with post-industrialism.

Of course, it's easy to say things like that about techno as it is an
ambiguous and amorphous genre of music - and it's just as easy to disprove
statements like this for exactly the same reason. My perception of techno is
that it's a post-industrial genre - and, hey, if we think of 'industrial' as
the musical genre rather than the phase of economic development, that makes
sense too!

Brendan

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RE: [313] The Tao of Mills

2001-11-14 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:58 PM
|
| Parts I loved:
| 
| His explanation of the title Every Dog Has His Day
| where he breaks it down literally. I guess it is an English Language
| colloquialism, but it's not that obscure.  It is a good avoidance
| of stating directly what HE meant by it.

Hah! I see what you mean about the way he tends to speak and write, it is
pretty funny a lot of the time... but maybe with Every Dog Has Its Day he
had to explain it in that level of depth because he was interviewing with a
Dutch site and they honestly didn't know what it meant?

Although I can imagine Mills explaining it in that way even if he was
talking to Charles Dickens...!

Brendan

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RE: [313] Jeff Mills interview on-line

2001-11-14 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:43 PM
|
| Hm.  Although I don't think it is an accident that what we think of as
| techno comes out of Detroit for the reasons you mentioned, 
| I actually think hip-hop might be the first post-industrial music...and 
| that techno is the first to actually REPRESENT itself as post-industrial. 
|  Do you see the distinction?

Yes, I see what you mean, and it makes sense... 

| But hiphop is the first music to violate those forms...and it 
| was produced
| by some of the first casualties of the industrial 
| era--colored (black
| american, black carribbean, latino, some white) men and women who were
| unable to get jobs in the plants during the seventies.  It 
| took a low-tech
| approach with high tech tools and created a sound that was a 
| pastiche of
| bits and pieces of previous work.  And in juxtaposition to 
| the megaband,
| all that was needed was two turntables and a mic.  Note how 
| the scale
| becomes more human...in pointed juxtaposition to the industrial trend.

And I guess that a characteristic of post-industrial music is an industrial
level of *energy* suddenly being directed into sound rather than into mass
production - something that hip-hop and techno share, in my opinion. You get
the sense of there being an industrial infrastructure either lying dormant
or in decay; while a lot of rock'n'roll always sounded like work, work,
work music (and having worked in factories playing MOR radio stations all
day, I've always associated rock music with the process of industrial
production), both hip-hop and techno sound like, well, here's all this
machinery and industrialised sectors of the city, but it's not doing
anything, just slowly decaying, and here's what that decay sounds like
Perhaps techno takes it a bit further into ...and here's what these
machines *should* be doing! - hence actually representing itself as
post-industrial music in a way that hip-hop doesn't?

You are completely right about the actual scale though - with hip-hop and
techno, the scale is much more human, which is interesting as both genres
seem to have a wider scope than rock'n'roll. Rock'n'roll tends to talk
about human situations, but the scale is vast; while hip-hop and techno talk
about wider or more abstract things while paradoxically working on a much
more human scale in terms of how the music is made, performed and
distributed.

| Now the themes are definitely NOT post-industrial...but I 
| think the music
| itself was as far as the social factors leading up to its creation.

Although it's possible to maybe point to some early hip-hop tracks that
actually were distinctly post-industrial - The Message, Ray-gun-omics?
But you're right, the themes generally aren't post-industrial. Techno's
avoidance of explicit themes is possibly one of the most post-industrial
aspects of the music, in a way - what do you think?

| (i forwarded this to a friend of mine who recently wrote a book called
| BEETHOVEN'S ANVIL which deals with music and culture broadly 
| considered.)

Has this book been published? I'm very interested in that sort of thing and
would make an effort to pick it up if I could find it anywhere...

Brendan

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RE: [313]Landstrum repress

2001-11-08 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Damn! There goes my retirement... still, it'll be nice to have two copies.
Does anyone agree with me that Index Man is his best work ever?

| -Original Message-
| From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:37 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313]Landstrum repress
| 
| 
| 
| 
| thought people might be interested to know that Neil 
| Landstrumm's index man e.p
| originally on peacefrog has been repressed on scandinavia.
| no need to pay $55 on ebay anymore.
| james
| www.jbucknell.com
| 
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RE: [313] The other people place When UR meet WARP????

2001-11-07 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe it's a (possibly ex-) member of Drexciya... not the same person
that's involved in Transillusion, if my info is correct, but instead the
person who was involved in Elektroids. Very different and unique sound to
that Other People Place record though. I did a review of it here:
http://cdr.sine.com/cdr/article.cfm?id=266

| -Original Message-
| From: Thomas Van Steen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:01 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] The other people place When UR meet WARP
| 
| 
| Does anybody have info about the new Warp Records release : 
| LIFESTYLES OF
| THE LAPTOP CAFE by
|  THE OTHER PEOPLE PLACE.
| We said me there is a UR member behind this production!!!
| 
| thanks
| 
| Thomas Van Steen
| http://www.pulsation.com
| 
| 
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RE: [313] BLACK DOG

2001-11-01 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This might be a good start:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=B70d2vwzva9yk

Don't know where Transparent Balls can be found, though - a lot of those old
GPR albums have become as rare as hen's teeth! I could be wrong though.

| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 5:33 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] BLACK DOG
| 
| 
| Hello everybody!
| 
| I am looking for some info about Black Dog. Google is not a 
| big help :-(
| does anybody have a link?
| 
| I'm still looking for the Temple of transparent bells album.
| Does anybody have a tip where to find it or does anybody sell it?
| 
| Any help is highly appreciated...
| 
| Cheers, Arne
| 
| Arne Weinberg
| GROUND ZERO Rec. / STARBABY Rec. / PROPAGANDA Rec.
| **
| 
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RE: [313] technology vs. art

2001-10-31 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: laura gavoor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:19 PM
| 
| A.  Will ever-elevating recording technology equally elevate 
| imagination or have the opposite effect...or both??

Both, I reckon. The leap of imagination that was Acid Trax back in the day
is much easier for people to achieve now. Some would say that elevating
recording technology cheapens that sort of imagination, but it actually
doesn't - it just raises the stakes. Easier to express imagination at a more
basic or easy level, but harder to produce something so imaginative it
stands out from the burgeoning crowd of Pierre-clones...

| B.  If bothhow then does one gage or distinguish true 
| musicianship and talent from creativity/imagination/
| uniqueness in composition??

Musicianship is a bit of an odd term; a lot of the music discussed on this
list isn't the product of musicianship as such, more the
creativity/imagination/uniqueness you mention. People who are skilled at
musicianship will be as easy to spot as always, but (and I might be being a
bit heretical here) the role of the pure musician (ie, no composing, just
playing) will continue to become more like that of the calligrapher today.

On the other hand, new forms of musicianship come with new instruments.
Turntablists, for example, or the way some producers can rock a 303 live on
stage while others can't. Bernie Worrell and Marvin Gaye's synth playing,
working on the sound at the same time as on the melody. I can imagine some
amazing futuristic instruments which could usher in a new age for
musicianship...

But you're right, boring people will continue to make boring music, weird
people will go on making weird stuff, and so on... the cycle of life
continues... and no old technology ever gets uninvented (apart from Body
Rap...).

Brendan

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RE: [313] anti-technology

2001-10-30 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Bulger, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 5:48 PM
| 
| Music is not like your child's first crayon picture.  Being enabled to
| create by a piece of software is not equivalent to being able 
| to create.
| More people creating because they _can_, instead of because 
| they feel the
| need (read, inspired) to is more likely to increase the amount of
| uninspired, lackluster music out there (those records you put 
| back in the bin and try to forget about)...

What harm do those records actually do anyway? OK, so more of these crappy
records come out. If they're really god-awful people won't buy them. I'd
rather live in a world with a vast plethora of mediocre music, a sonic
primordial soup, out of which some real gems will evolve.

People who think that the increasing ease of producing electronic music is a
bad thing are pretty confusing to me. We could always go back to making our
own equipment and programming drum patterns hard onto circuit boards, with
soldering irons. Then only highly skilled electronic engineers would be able
to make music - it'd be just like the 1950s, with only two electronic albums
released every year! Wouldn't that be great?

It shouldn't bother people that lots of music is made that they don't like.
Rebirth kiddies are hardly respected or lauded anywhere, just as kids
wearing Body Rap kits in the 1980s hardly made it to the giddy heights of
fame. Quality control always comes into play... but I'd rather buy a decent
piece of music made with Rebirth than a po-faced and turgid piece made using
Russolo's 1920s instrumentation, to be honest. If anyone managed to make
something decent with Rebirth, which I doubt...

Brendan


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[313] Newsflash - the future of techno production!

2001-10-30 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two renowned Detroit producers reveal the machines with which techno of the
future will be created!

http://www.futurism.fsnet.co.uk/photos/music.2.jpg

Brendan

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RE: [313] Model 500 - I wanna be there

2001-10-26 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes... it even *looks* lovely... one of the few techno releases where the
sleeve art captures the texture of the music perfectly. That's the record
I'd have on while making my final approach into Cloud City...

| -Original Message-
| From: james boylan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:27 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
| 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] Model 500 - I wanna be there
| 
| 
| That ep as a whole is my favourite techno purchase ever.
| 
| Unsurpassed, I think.
| 
| The original, long version is on the 'Sonic Sunset' doublepack, and
| there's a shorter edit on the 'Deep Space' LP.
| 
| 
| 
| _
| Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at 
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RE: [313] every freakin day

2001-10-26 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You mean the ghetto-tech track sampling the Jodeci ballad? I'm after that
one too...

| -Original Message-
| From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:01 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] every freakin day
| 
| 
| who did that track?  deeon?
| 
| what's the name of it?
| 
| thanks!!
| 
| Google isn't much help
| 
| Tosh
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RE: [313] every freakin day

2001-10-26 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have one by DJ Funk which features a sampled breakbeat, much like an old
UK hardcore track... it goes into a loop of feel it, feel it, feel it...
However, the one I'm after is in much more of a Detroit mould, ominous and
electronic. DJ Funk pitches up the vocal to fit it with the beat, while the
one I want (heard it on a 12 Tech Mob mixtape) actually slows them down,
making it much sleazier, and features a noise not entirely dissimilar to the
laser effect in Kraftwerk's Home Computer...

| -Original Message-
| From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:01 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] every freakin day
| 
| 
| who did that track?  deeon?
| 
| what's the name of it?
| 
| thanks!!
| 
| Google isn't much help
| 
| Tosh
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RE: [313] Red Planet CD comp information

2001-10-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unless you plan to stock up on all the 12s (which I would advise, but it's
the priciest option), I'd strongly recommend buying the CD! If you actually
haven't heard any of the tracks you will be breathless upon first listen.
And if you're not impressed I'll eat my hat!

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:17 PM
| To: '313'
| Subject: [313] Red Planet CD comp information
| 
| 
| Another request for information...
| 
| Just been to the local store and seen a Red Planet complation 
| on Submerge. 
| 
| Who is this?
| 
| It seemed like a collection of tracks with cat numbers like 
| RP1 RP2 etc.
| 
| I recognised one of the track titles to be 'Sex in Zero 
| Gravity',  as it gets a mention on this list quite a lot.
| but a £17.99 I was reluctant to buy on sight.
| 
| Many Thanks
| 
| Rav
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RE: [313] techno/jazz

2001-10-23 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:27 PM
| 
| If we're still talking techno and jazz, has anybody mentioned Jamie 
| Hodge (Born Under a Rhyming Planet)?

Not yet, but I remember the natty little sig he used when he posted to the
list... good music too!

Brendan

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RE: [313] Re: Sarah Gregory

2001-10-11 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Michel Rijnders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:20 PM
| 
| On Monday 08 October 2001 00:56, Greg Earle wrote:
| 
|  If *anyone* ever finds a copy of The Beginning with this 
| picture sleeve
|  up for sale, please let me know.
| 
| 
| I'm quite sure this was re-released about a year ago; so it 
| shouldn't prove too difficult to find a copy...

I'm sure I saw a copy in smallfish (www.smallfish.co.uk) a week or two
ago...

Brendan

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RE: [313] ..article..

2001-10-11 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That reminds me of the time when the NME claimed that Derrick May was known,
among those who know, as The 303 King.

But seriously, the Guardian is always good for a laugh when it decides to
write about music. Even the FT has journalists on staff who are more
knowledgable about techno than Grauniad writers (or at least, it did when I
worked there...)

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:33 PM
| To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
| Subject: Re: [313] ..article..
| 
| 
| no surprises there then several months ago same newspaper 
| also called
| Paul Van Dyk the godfather of Techno.
| 
| 
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| From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:22 PM
| Subject: [313] ..article..
| 
| 
|  Some of the 313 sites that are regulary mentioned and 
| maintained by list
| members appear in The Guardian, a UK broadsheet.
|  today. As usual the article itself is 'techno lite' 
| choosing to give more
| lines to uk garageBAH!!
| 
| 
|  http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,567000,00.html
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RE: [313] Re: Sarah Gregory

2001-10-11 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Michel Rijnders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:20 PM
| 
| On Monday 08 October 2001 00:56, Greg Earle wrote:
| 
|  If *anyone* ever finds a copy of The Beginning with this 
| picture sleeve
|  up for sale, please let me know.
| 
| 
| I'm quite sure this was re-released about a year ago; so it 
| shouldn't prove too difficult to find a copy...

I'm sure I saw a copy in smallfish (www.smallfish.co.uk) a week or two
ago...

Brendan

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RE: [313] ..article..

2001-10-11 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That reminds me of the time when the NME claimed that Derrick May was known,
among those who know, as The 303 King.

But seriously, the Guardian is always good for a laugh when it decides to
write about music. Even the FT has journalists on staff who are more
knowledgable about techno than Grauniad writers (or at least, it did when I
worked there...)

Brendan

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| Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:33 PM
| To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313'
| Subject: Re: [313] ..article..
| 
| 
| no surprises there then several months ago same newspaper 
| also called
| Paul Van Dyk the godfather of Techno.
| 
| 
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| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:22 PM
| Subject: [313] ..article..
| 
| 
|  Some of the 313 sites that are regulary mentioned and 
| maintained by list
| members appear in The Guardian, a UK broadsheet.
|  today. As usual the article itself is 'techno lite' 
| choosing to give more
| lines to uk garageBAH!!
| 
| 
|  http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,567000,00.html
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[313] Ultradyne in UK?

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So are there any plans for Ultradyne to play a set in the UK at any point?
Or have they already done so?

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[313] Ultradyne in UK?

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So are there any plans for Ultradyne to play a set in the UK at any point?
Or have they already done so?

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[313] Essay on techno's roots in jazz

2001-10-09 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's an essay written by a friend of mine about this subject:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2363231

Jazz is about structuring the instinctive improvisations of musicians into
a coherent whole. Techno is the imbuing of life into a pre-programmed
structure, the genetic - or memetic - mutation of a four-four beat...

There's more stuff along those lines on his (unfortunately frame-heavy)
site, whose main URL is:

http://www.sagant.freeserve.co.uk/Frameset.htm

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[313] Essay on techno's roots in jazz

2001-10-09 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here's an essay written by a friend of mine about this subject:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C2363231

Jazz is about structuring the instinctive improvisations of musicians into
a coherent whole. Techno is the imbuing of life into a pre-programmed
structure, the genetic - or memetic - mutation of a four-four beat...

There's more stuff along those lines on his (unfortunately frame-heavy)
site, whose main URL is:

http://www.sagant.freeserve.co.uk/Frameset.htm

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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That Acapulco night in London (at Plastic People) bills itself as, among
other things, a micro-house night, doesn't it?

I expect that a more technical definition of micro house would be that it
tends to rely heavily on rhythmic patterns with more than 16 steps in a bar;
that it eschews standard 909 drums and instead opts for clipped percussive
sounds whose length is measured in pico- rather than milliseconds; and that
it is the bastard child of Maurizio and Dan Bell...

Brendan

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| Subject: Re: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| Ola meu amigos (:
| 
| Micro House isn't anywhere as crap a reference term as Smash House.
| 
| Peace (:
| 
| Original message from: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| I think it's just a term invented by Wire journalists (who also
| branded hard
| tech step NeuroFunk)  ;)
| 
| I suppose it could apply to labels like mosaic, stuff by Thomas
| Brinkmann
| and the like. it is a bit of a crap term to be honest.
| 
| 
| 
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| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:25 AM
| Subject: [313] micro house
| 
| 
|  ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list but not
| worked
| out what it means.
|  ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to explain
| this
| genre with example of artists.
|  thanks. rav.
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RE: [313] micro house

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The good thing with micro house is that it can be expanded upon by Wire
journalists in the future; nano-house, pico-house and so forth.

But what would the really expansive records come under? Giga-house?
Tera-house? Peta-house?

| -Original Message-
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| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:48 PM
| To: beautiful individual; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| I know what they're getting at, but it doesn't seem like a very 
| helpful term.  Wouldn't compressed be a better adjective?  :) 
| Guess that's not as catchy.
| 
| -d
| 
| At 9:49 AM + 10/4/01, beautiful individual wrote:
| micro house: minimal house (usually german) by the likes of 
| daniel bell,
| herbert, losoul, farben, isolee, etc.
| 
| labels: playhouse, klang ...
| 
| good example (in my opinion, but could be wrong): the 
| button-down mind of
| daniel bell mix cd on tresor
| 
| 
| From: Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] micro house
| Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:25:40 +0100
| 
| ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list 
| but not worked
| out what it means.
| ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to 
| explain this genre
| with example of artists.
| thanks. rav.
| 
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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Atom Heart is obviously kicking some arse in the micro house subgenre as
well, especially the Geez'n'Gosh album My Life With Jesus which actually
does make me think of becoming born again...

| -Original Message-
| From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:16 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: RE: [313] micro house
| 
| 
|  I thought it was a trio...Loderbauer, Thiel and Fehlmann.
|   jeff
| funny, I think I remember a record cover with just two faces 
| ? not sure...
| anyway, it's fun to learn that these guys from the early days 
| of European
| techno are still around doing some micro house stuff...
| Gwendal
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RE: [313] R: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I actually recommend it very highly but especially if you like the glitch
/ micro-house sort of stuff we've been discussing before. Twitchy, heavily
syncopated percussion, small and tight little sounds, crunchy sorts of drum
sounds that sound like they're coming from inside your own skull, etc... 

but my favourite bit is the whole gospel/evangelical theme to it. It's not
amazingly intrusive but... it's hard to explain... each song has a very
religious title, and some have more overt overtones than others (the first
track on side C is the most explicit, but is very, very funky, and genuinely
soulful; that's the one that gets me clapping and shouting hallelujah!).
Generally if you like all the stuff that's been mentioned in this thread so
far you'll really, really like My Life With Jesus.

Brendan

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| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:19 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] R: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| 
| 
| Geez'n'Gosh album My Life With Jesus  
| 
| i saw that today...do you reccommend it? what *genre* is it?
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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That Acapulco night in London (at Plastic People) bills itself as, among
other things, a micro-house night, doesn't it?

I expect that a more technical definition of micro house would be that it
tends to rely heavily on rhythmic patterns with more than 16 steps in a bar;
that it eschews standard 909 drums and instead opts for clipped percussive
sounds whose length is measured in pico- rather than milliseconds; and that
it is the bastard child of Maurizio and Dan Bell...

Brendan

| -Original Message-
| From: hunter baby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:09 AM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| Ola meu amigos (:
| 
| Micro House isn't anywhere as crap a reference term as Smash House.
| 
| Peace (:
| 
| Original message from: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| I think it's just a term invented by Wire journalists (who also
| branded hard
| tech step NeuroFunk)  ;)
| 
| I suppose it could apply to labels like mosaic, stuff by Thomas
| Brinkmann
| and the like. it is a bit of a crap term to be honest.
| 
| 
| 
| - Original Message -
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| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:25 AM
| Subject: [313] micro house
| 
| 
|  ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list but not
| worked
| out what it means.
|  ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to explain
| this
| genre with example of artists.
|  thanks. rav.
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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The good thing with micro house is that it can be expanded upon by Wire
journalists in the future; nano-house, pico-house and so forth.

But what would the really expansive records come under? Giga-house?
Tera-house? Peta-house?

| -Original Message-
| From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:48 PM
| To: beautiful individual; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| I know what they're getting at, but it doesn't seem like a very 
| helpful term.  Wouldn't compressed be a better adjective?  :) 
| Guess that's not as catchy.
| 
| -d
| 
| At 9:49 AM + 10/4/01, beautiful individual wrote:
| micro house: minimal house (usually german) by the likes of 
| daniel bell,
| herbert, losoul, farben, isolee, etc.
| 
| labels: playhouse, klang ...
| 
| good example (in my opinion, but could be wrong): the 
| button-down mind of
| daniel bell mix cd on tresor
| 
| 
| From: Mann, Ravinder   [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: [313] micro house
| Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:25:40 +0100
| 
| ive heard the term micro house branded about on this list 
| but not worked
| out what it means.
| ive heard it applied to isolee. but why ? anyone care to 
| explain this genre
| with example of artists.
| thanks. rav.
| 
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RE: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Atom Heart is obviously kicking some arse in the micro house subgenre as
well, especially the Geez'n'Gosh album My Life With Jesus which actually
does make me think of becoming born again...

| -Original Message-
| From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:16 PM
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: RE: [313] micro house
| 
| 
|  I thought it was a trio...Loderbauer, Thiel and Fehlmann.
|   jeff
| funny, I think I remember a record cover with just two faces 
| ? not sure...
| anyway, it's fun to learn that these guys from the early days 
| of European
| techno are still around doing some micro house stuff...
| Gwendal
| 
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RE: [313] R: [313] micro house

2001-10-04 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I actually recommend it very highly but especially if you like the glitch
/ micro-house sort of stuff we've been discussing before. Twitchy, heavily
syncopated percussion, small and tight little sounds, crunchy sorts of drum
sounds that sound like they're coming from inside your own skull, etc... 

but my favourite bit is the whole gospel/evangelical theme to it. It's not
amazingly intrusive but... it's hard to explain... each song has a very
religious title, and some have more overt overtones than others (the first
track on side C is the most explicit, but is very, very funky, and genuinely
soulful; that's the one that gets me clapping and shouting hallelujah!).
Generally if you like all the stuff that's been mentioned in this thread so
far you'll really, really like My Life With Jesus.

Brendan

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| Subject: [313] R: [313] micro house
| 
| 
| 
| 
| Geez'n'Gosh album My Life With Jesus  
| 
| i saw that today...do you reccommend it? what *genre* is it?
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RE: [313] nightdrive vocalsl

2001-09-27 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My favourite bit was always it really is overkill, isn't it?...

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| Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:41 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: RE: [313] nightdrive vocalsl
| 
| 
| man, 313 obscura all over the place today.
| 
| I'll take a stab at this too ... when we come to consensus I'll add 
| it to the FAQ.
| 
| For now, don't forget the best part:   How can she possibly walk in 
| those shoes?
| 
| :)
| 
| At 10:21 AM -0400 9/27/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Not sure but I think it's like:
| 
| I'm riding in a black on black on black Porsche 924...? Out 
| of all the
| Porsches to pick...:)
| 
| Peace,
| Alex
| 
| 
| 
| 
|  
|  
|   
| 
|  james 
| boylan  
| 
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| Subject: RE: [313] 
| nightdrive 
| vocalsl
|  09/27/01 
| 10:17
|   
|  
| AM   
|
|  
|  
|   
| 
|  
|  
|   
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
| Is this sarcasm? If so, ha ha.
| 
| I'm referring to the kind of whispered vocal (I presume 
| spoken by Juan
| Atkins), not the vocoder bit.
| 
| From: Ryan Brogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: RE: [313] nightdrive vocalsl
| Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:09:43 -0400
| 
| time.space.transmat
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
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| Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:03 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
| Subject: Re: [313] nightdrive vocalsl
| 
| 
| I've always been curious about the lyrics on 'Nightdrive'. 
| I can make out
| some of them, but not all. Anyone any ideas?
| 
| 
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|   To: 313@hyperreal.org
|   Subject: [313] dope computer vocal
|   Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:07:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
|   
|   Just curious if anybody out there can make out what
|   the vocoded vocal loop is saying in the second version
|   of Dope Computer on the Fix-Flash ep. any guesses?
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RE: [313] Timmy Regisford @ Fabric

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| From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:49 PM
| 
| Jonny McIntosh wrote:
| 
|  Can someone also tell me about the Gadgets label?
| 
| Not really sure about standout releases - I only have #3, but 
| its pretty good.
| Smallfish carry this label, but I'm not sure how available 
| back catalogue is...

I can't remember what release it was (#2 or #3 I think), but the one with
the picture of all the fish on the cover is my favourite Gadgets release. In
fact, I was tempted to stick it in my top 3 maurizio-like releases that
maurizio didn't produce (along with another one on Mosaic which I can
remember little about; I used to be such a trainspotter but my memory is
like a sieve these days...)

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RE: [313] DJ Magda

2001-09-19 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| -Original Message-
| From: Mike Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:20 PM
| 
| Just let him say what he has to say and ignore him. Like Luke 
| Monteiro before him...

Now there's a blast from the past! I remember Luke Monteiro and his fervent
advocacy of Swedish techno... you know, Adam Beyer has made some nice
records but Luke Monteiro really coloured my perception of him and all the
other Swedish artists. It was almost tempting to boycott Swedish techno just
to wind him up... in fact, thinking about it, I have no Adam Beyer records
at all. I guess Luke's evangelism wasn't as successful as he might have
thought...

Brendan

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