RE: (313) too quiet? too pac!
quite probable- he kept on releasing one or two albums per month even after his death... A good thing though, I listened to a number of them and they're all good and interesting. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:57 AM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) too quiet? too pac! -- Original Message -- From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks I think Hakan Lidbo and Merbow likely hold the record for most new records released while alive im pretty sure i read somewhere that Muslimgauze was the most prolific recording artist of all time. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Classic.... BNP christmas Party hires black DJ.
British National Party. A certain idea of funny. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : M : A : T : R : I : X [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:43 PM À : placid; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) Classic BNP christmas Party hires black DJ. might be a bit funnier if I knew what the BNP was. Basically Nice People? Born with No Penis? Boogie Noun Productions? Bananas 'N Pajamas? on 12/7/04 4:40 AM, placid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1200735.html p
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
It looks like they're vinyl only, right ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, December 06, 2004 1:10 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Psychedelic soul Good stockists of this type of stuff: http://www.voxpoprecords.com/
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
So... The Parliaments - (I wanna) Testify Parliament - Osmium Rotary Connection - ST Rotary Connection - Songs Temptations - Psychedelic soul Swamp Dogg - Total destruction to your mind Barbara Ernie - Prelude to... Rasputin's Stash - ST Rasputin Stash - Devil made me do it Eugene McDaniels - Headless heroes of the apocalypse Cymande - Cymande The Debonaires - I want to talk about it (world) VA - Chains black exhaust Rare Earth - The very best of Apparently a number of those haven't made it to CD. The complete article is something like 4 pages, very interesting ; website is www.thewire.co.uk . Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:34 PM À : Cobert, Gwendal Cc : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) Psychedelic soul dang- i meant to track some of those down, but i just tossed the issue- duh can you give the whole list they recommended? thx On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: So... One or two months ago, The Wire had a very interesting feature about Psychedelic Soul (highly recommended to anybody here who's into rare groove, Parliament etc), but I have trouble finding some of the titles ; esp since I only buy CDs (no comments please !). Do you have great websites for purchasing funk/soul/rb online, where I might find my new Grails ? Stuff I'm looking for : Rotary Connection, Barbara Ernie, Rasputin Stash, Swamp Dogg, Debonaires. Gwendal
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:17 PM À : Robert Taylor; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Psychedelic soul Indeed, but if we're including them as psychedelic then it's only fair that Mandrill get a mention. Also, peeps looking for psychedelic soul should keep an eye out for other Charles Stepney productions as well as his Rotary Connection stuff, in particular his later productions for Cadet e.g. the Phil Upchurch solo albums, are deep. Earth Wind and Fire's first album (eponymously titled) is also excellent - v. much on an early Funkadelic tip and also highly sampled - 'Bad Tune' is a killer - with a wicked Kalimba intro! Another psychedelic tip (though more on a jazz angle) is Tom Scott's sixties stuff on Impulse, clearly influenced by West Coast Psyche rock of the time. Check 'The Honeysuckle Breeze' and 'Rural Still Life'. Pete Rock used 'Today' off the former to devastating effect on 'T.R.O.Y.'..and he's from Detroit...or something ^realises he's ranting and stops^ Oh no - keep' em coming ! Gwendal
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
Just discovered Osmium and it might be one of Parliament's best albums by far (and God knows they're usually ace) ; found a couple of Rotary Connection tracks and this definitely goes straight to the shopping basket. I have a record by Mandrill, wasn't too enthusiastic about it but I need to listen to it again. EWF - it's hard to find their earlier (good) stuff, usually it's just crappy collections. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:17 PM À : Robert Taylor; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Psychedelic soul Indeed, but if we're including them as psychedelic then it's only fair that Mandrill get a mention. Also, peeps looking for psychedelic soul should keep an eye out for other Charles Stepney productions as well as his Rotary Connection stuff, in particular his later productions for Cadet e.g. the Phil Upchurch solo albums, are deep. Earth Wind and Fire's first album (eponymously titled) is also excellent - v. much on an early Funkadelic tip and also highly sampled - 'Bad Tune' is a killer - with a wicked Kalimba intro! Another psychedelic tip (though more on a jazz angle) is Tom Scott's sixties stuff on Impulse, clearly influenced by West Coast Psyche rock of the time. Check 'The Honeysuckle Breeze' and 'Rural Still Life'. Pete Rock used 'Today' off the former to devastating effect on 'T.R.O.Y.'..and he's from Detroit...or something ^realises he's ranting and stops^ At 10:46 am + 1/12/04, Robert Taylor wrote: Cymande are one of the greatest bands of all time - sampladelic! -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Psychedelic soul Cymande - Cymande # ## ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # ## ##
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
The first one was in the list, but I'lll sure add the second one ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:53 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Psychedelic soul -- Original Message -- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] im not sure what classifies as psychedelic soul, ive never really thought about soul music like that. i thought of some stuff that might make sense in this category: eugene mcdaniels headless heroes of the apocalypse (find an original of this and youll be very happy) ramp come into knowledge (ditto) tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
Oh yeah - the guy was good but there's at least one track where he is just amazing, Oxford gray... I only have Here comes, need to dig the others ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:55 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) Psychedelic soul maybe try Shuggie Otis too OWWW. good call. Forgot about Shuggie. What a renegade. Played everything, wrote everything. Ahh, a true genius. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Psychedelic soul
So... One or two months ago, The Wire had a very interesting feature about Psychedelic Soul (highly recommended to anybody here who's into rare groove, Parliament etc), but I have trouble finding some of the titles ; esp since I only buy CDs (no comments please !). Do you have great websites for purchasing funk/soul/rb online, where I might find my new Grails ? Stuff I'm looking for : Rotary Connection, Barbara Ernie, Rasputin Stash, Swamp Dogg, Debonaires. Gwendal
RE: (313) Psychedelic soul
Upcoming Release: Around December 15, 2004 Messed-up funky jazz from an obscure early 70s UK group -- and an album that really lives up to its trippy cover! The tracks are all long and stretched out -- with lots of organ, sax, and spaced out drums -- and the overall style is a mix of dub-heavy funk, Afro jazz, and a bit of jazz rock jamming! There's a bit of vocals on the album, but overall most of the set is instrumental -- in a really right on and progressive style that we totally love. This is the kind of record that always got passed by in the 80s when everyone was looking for hard James Brown grooves, but which is very much in fashion now with the blunted funky crowd. Cuts include Hymn To Mother Earth, Another Country, Disillusioned Man, and Mercy (Variation No. 1). Or so they say on Dusty Grooves, my new best friend. Sounds good - thanks for the tip ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:55 PM À : Mann, Ravinder; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Psychedelic soul See if you can find Demon Fuzz by Afreaka too. I only have it on cassette but I think you can get on other formats nowadays. Propa !! Cheers. Rav. ** Saw this on 12 format in the shop window of Selectadisc last night. k
RE: (313) Wednesday
I love the idea of Rufus and red whine ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:35 PM T o: Martin Dust; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313 Wednesday mmm I think you need to add a shallow glass of whiskey or red whine to paint the portrait better. --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listening to Rufus Wainwright and watching it rain, perfect... Martin On 17 Nov 2004, at 10:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning Folks. What's todays 'do' then? Any important issues we need to discuss? I still can't get over that new Carl Craig thing. Owww. My mate doesn't like it that much, but holy smoke, I can't stop listening to it. I get 100% lost in it every time its on. It's beautiful s**t. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help
Might be a stupid answer, but when burning a CD, you have a number of options related to filenames ; have you tried using a Joliet system, with all options checked ? Should enable you to burn files with 255 characters. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : James Hurlbut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Saturday, November 13, 2004 3:55 AM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) Ableton Live / Computer Help An annoying problem I have with Live .asd files is when you burn them to a cd and the burned filename gets truncated because of the filename length restrictions of the cd format the .wav file won't read the .asd file when you copy the file back to your hard drive and you have to rewarp it. Of course the answer is to keep the filenames short, but I like to include the artist, track title and label in my filenames to make it easier for sorting. Ableton really needs to set it up so you can copy warp markers between clips easily. Even better would be if they released the file specification so people could write .asd warper utilities. Then I can finally realize my dream of warping tracks on my pocket pc while I'm at work! Jamie At 07:49 AM 11/12/2004, you wrote: On a side note, when I pull in tracks that I've already warped in other sets, the warp markers don't seem to show up, and I still have to rewarp them. Am I doing something wrong? Usually the way I do it is copy the .wav and .asd file into the directory I use for the set, and Ableton shows a symbol that seems to imply it recognizes the .asd file, but when I pull it in - no warp. David. Is there a possibility you're saving/moving/copying them as 'read only' files? they don't work then for some reason - not sure why. But you SHOULD definitely be able to save them and use them whenever. Maybe others might know more? Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Strings Of Life given a vocal
More precisely : a cynical git with no sense of business ;-) Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, November 15, 2004 4:43 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) Strings Of Life given a vocal http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/article3537.html Just seen this in News on LD. WDF? I guess people should reserve judgment til they've heard it but I cannot think of any reason for this version other than to make pots of cash. But I'm a cynical git. ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
(313) Sutemos
It's online, it's free, it's an electronic label, it's here : http://www.sutemos.net/en/player. Mostly european artists, some of them kinda connected to Detroit, but hey... Np the Ulrich Schnauss track ! Gwendal
RE: (313) These Go up to 11
Time to get your hands on the Spinal Tap DVD... Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:05 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) These Go up to 11 I want to join in, but my stereo volume only goes up to 10. What should I do? seek help? Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) These Go up to 11
Yeah, love that Sabres track as well, maybe I prefer Inter-Lergen though.. Re, Orbital, I guess you're talking about the Belfast/Wasted mix that's something like 10 minutes long ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : KiDD*e* [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:30 PM À : ThReE-oNe-ThReE Objet : RE: (313) These Go up to 11 Olala, i looove this one... It used to be our track ...me and my girlfriend. Its a whole fairy world, so magic. The kind of track that inevitably bring tears to my eyes. My choice would be : Orbital - Midnight, followed by Belfast. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: RE: (313) These Go up to 11 but my all time fav I guess is Sabres of Paradise - Smokebelch II
RE: (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit
yup - he's even been seen on stage with the Chicks (and it wasn't too good), something like 15 months ago. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:45 PM À : '313' Objet : (313) Cristian Vogel vs. Detroit Okay, So I kind of slept on Super Conductor originally and for some reason have decided to give their albums another listen, and... actually that stuff totally blows me away! It's amazing... So I was thinking, what would be really really hot, would be if Cristian Vogel produced: 1. An Amp Fiddler album 2. A Prince album 3. Something with Blake Baxter talking on the top What does everyone think? I guess he is producing (or already did) the new Chicks on Speed as well, which sounds like it could be very interesting. Maybe this is already out on promo? ~David
RE: (313) environ release.
Yeah, totally - a couple of the new tracks (Victor, Zodiac) have already been on heavy rotation in my walkman for the past week, and I envy those who will discover tracks like Margharitas or Dance Reaction or Pluton (which were already on the EPs)... Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Friday, November 12, 2004 5:40 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) environ release. rococo EP I need this record. Hey, did anyone get the unclassics cd? I got it for my birthday. IT'S ACE. BUY ONE. I nicked those Humanoid beats for my Ableton too : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) environ release.
Wasn't vol 6 also due anytime soon ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Friday, November 12, 2004 5:52 PM À : Cobert, Gwendal Cc : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) environ release. On Nov 12, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: and I envy those who will discover tracks like Margharitas or Dance Reaction or Pluton (which were already on the EPs)... speaking of discovering other EPs, Metro Area #5, previously only available on vinyl.. can now be bought digitally at iTunes for all the non-vinyl peoples of the world. Dunno how to send a link to it, but if you search iTunes music store for METRO AREA, voila.. Proton Candy and Nerves. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) John Peel's funeral
The coffin's arrival - and departure to the sound of Teenage Kicks by The Undertones Perfect Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Friday, November 12, 2004 6:15 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) John Peel's funeral The sight of that coffin makes me feel a little sick. RIP Mr Peel _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) new weatherall mix
Also try to get your hands on the 9 O'Clock drop mix if you haven't already, one of the best mixes I've ever heard (but spanning a different genre and time) Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:06 AM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) new weatherall mix Just when I thought I had burnt out on the electro/disco/acid revival (sorry- but the Unclassics mix deflated me) this arrived in the mailbox. All the Fabric mixes are good, but none so far have had staying power. This one breaks that curse. I can see myself digging this in 6 months and 6 years. Sexual Harassment - I Need a Freak The Egyptian Lover - Freak-A-Holic Kangos Stein Massive - M/S Langra (Syntax Erik Mix) DJ T. - Time Out (Acid Dub) Alexkid - Dont Hide It (Alexkids Vocal) Tomboy - She Hit My Head Delon And Dalcan - Dunufus Marc Romboy Vs. Booka Shade - Everyday Of My Life (Martin Landsky Remix) Jesper Dahlbck - Robot Dance Steve Bug - That Kid (Hate Mix) Metope - Second Skin Miwon - Brother Mole (John Tejada Mix) Black Devil - Timing, Forget The Timing ( Kerrier District Mix) The Emperor Machine - Bloody Hell Ricardo Villalobos - Dexter (2 Lone Swordsmen Mix) Technova - Atmosphere
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Sorry for the non-french speakers, but they miss on a really nice bit of info about Canadians here : http://fr.news.yahoo.com/041103/202/44klm.html Just kidding ! Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:41 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Careful Rob! We can't have 'em all coming over here, stealing our jobs, chewing their gum, wooing our womenfolk and raiding our second-hand shops for desirable rarities before we've even had a chance to sleep off our hangovers... ;) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 November 2004 16:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Redmond, Ja'Maul; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, You should all come over here. You'd at least get more chances to check out Detroit acts ;) -Original Message- From: Stephen Burd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:39 PM To: 'Redmond, Ja'Maul'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, please take him. -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:)
RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada,,,,,,,,,
Just curious : here in France, and I think in a number of other european countries, there are some ads inviting people to move to Canada... Is it the same in the US ? Or is it just a move from the french-speaking states in Canada to bring more french people there and balance the anglophones ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : LR T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, November 03, 2004 6:14 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Objet : RE: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, I feel the same way. The Presidency, House, and Senate are in the GOP control. Several states passed very restrictive acts concerning the definitions of marriage. I went to Montreal this summer for Mutek and loved the city. Toronto is nice too. We half jokingly said it would be great to move there. If only the winters weren't so brutal.. From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT :Oh! Canada,,, Oh Canada, Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:57 -0500 I never thought I would be the political type, but with America truly showing what direction it wants to continue in it's future, I know ask you canadian 313er's. How is Canada? I hear it's great for the arts and not bad for techno, my girlfriend loves vancouver. Would you accept another disgruntled american,,,:) Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:47 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) stinson interview/ De Block, Mario Quote A black and white world is what I truly detest, even if one day 50.5 % of America would decide we're better off that way Mario But a black and white world or is what we live in. Well at least here in America. Things are SO Clearly Divided it's pathetic. That's just reality. As for Stinson's comments, everyone has to remember that was back in 95' even by 97' 98' he had somewhat changed his viewpoint on hawtin. He then started to blame a lot of the problems on the first Generation's Exodus of Detroit. So like any man/especially an opionated man you find that he contradicted himself a lot through-out time. None theless, This country's foundation is rooted in racial/social economic division. Detest it or not it will always be present even in Art.
(313) Not strictly techno
But strictly Detroit : DETROIT-The Detroit Tourism Board is scaling back the city-sponsored Hidden Detroit program following the deaths of 24 tourists in the past month, city officials announced Monday. The campaign did draw tourists to historically significant places that usually go unnoticed, like the rough-and-tumble honky-tonks of Ypsilanti and the site of the 1967 riots, tourism board director Lauren Essleman said. But ultimately, unfolding the free 'Detroit Off The Beaten Path' maps in the middle of the Purple Gang's old turf was not a good idea. Essleman said that, in addition to the 24 tourists, the program resulted in the loss of more than 60 vehicles. From www.theonion.com Gwendal
RE: (313) Not strictly techno
Sorry - should have said it, but yes, The Onion is a parody of a news site. Not all is funny, but I always have a good laugh with each of their updates. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : De Block, Mario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:43 AM À : Cobert, Gwendal Cc : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) Not strictly techno is the Onion a reliable news source? seems a site full of 'ironic senseless news' to me, i hope so. Detroit deserves better than such clichés in that case Cobert, Gwendal schreef: But strictly Detroit : DETROIT-The Detroit Tourism Board is scaling back the city-sponsored Hidden Detroit program following the deaths of 24 tourists in the past month, city officials announced Monday. The campaign did draw tourists to historically significant places that usually go unnoticed, like the rough-and-tumble honky-tonks of Ypsilanti and the site of the 1967 riots, tourism board director Lauren Essleman said. But ultimately, unfolding the free 'Detroit Off The Beaten Path' maps in the middle of the Purple Gang's old turf was not a good idea. Essleman said that, in addition to the 24 tourists, the program resulted in the loss of more than 60 vehicles. From www.theonion.com Gwendal
RE: (313) Re: just a short
Is that related to the sun shower track by Dr Buzzard that was discussed here some months ago ? Found the CD in the meantime, incredibly good stuff ! Gwendal Np : Unclassics CD - perfect. -Message d'origine- De : J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:24 PM À : Marsel // Nomorewords.net; 313 Objet : Re: (313) Re: just a short the bone 10s sound way good...wish i had $ i'm also looking forward to the repress on creme of nami shimada's sun shower -- it's from 1990 and originally had a farley remix on it, but the original is easily better than his version. it's along the lines of classic deep trax stuff, but with cute japanese girl vocals. very nice. there is some info and a clip that is too short (doesnt get to the chorus) at http://www.globaldarkness.com/index.htm . apparently nami was the girl in the japanese clearasil commercial with the robotic owl -Original Message- From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 26, 2004 1:45 AM To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Re: just a short oh, and I fogot one! surrection by gerald mitchell only on 7 now but a deep groovy, deep track -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: just a short just a short note that i'm deeply digging the last axis and subject detroit output the triple 10, the hyper being, all goood the bone 10es, both pretty deep, with kinda old school clubber flavour model 500 is good to play anthem as well
RE: (313) John Peel
Overseas definitely includes the Channel ;-) Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:34 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) John Peel I see that Tony Blair chimed in with his 2p - do the right thing, Tony, give this man a state funeral. Few Britons over the last 35 years have been as important as this man was - to this overseas observer, anyway. - Greg
RE: (313) Unclassics CD
No tracklisting yet, but some hints in the blurb from their newsletter : Why UNCLASSICS? That's easy: they ain't the usual disco suspects! Morgan Geist, one half of the acclaimed production duo Metro Area and owner of the innovative Environ label, has lovingly assembled this debut DJ mix featuring a selection of his favorite obscure electronic funk and disco tracks from 1978-1985. UNCLASSICS will thrill dusty-fingered disco connoisseurs, hip lifestylers and electro neophytes alike. It's a perfectly-mixed fix of rare Italodisco (Alexander Robotnick-produced Go On Do It by Victor or Plastic Mode's Baja Imperial), hot European boogie (Geist's own remix of Dance Reaction's Disco Train), and even Soviet cosmic funk (Zoviet's Pacific) blended together seamlessly and incorporating Geist's studio mastery. Such spaced-out rarities (most available for the first time on CD) have turned heads and opened minds when played in sets from innovative DJs like Metro Area, disco don Daniel Wang (Balihu), cult hero DJ Harvey (ex-Ministry of Sound) and DJ I-F (the master behind the Mixed Up in the Hague mix CD). Despite the newest of these tracks approaching 20 years old, the playful experimentation and raw grooves sound fresher than most of the music being played in clubs today. This collection is guaranteed to stay ahead of the DJ mix CD curve with its innovative selection, painstaking remastering and eye-catching design by Julian Morey (Factory Records, The Hacienda, VOGUE). Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 18, 2004 3:40 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) Unclassics CD Following on from Robins post about new records, I notice that the 'Unclassics' Cd from Environ is mixed! Should be good! http://www.environrecords.com/ Don't suppose anyone has a tracklisting anywhere do they? Also there's a new 12 coming of the same series. Good. Alex _ - End of message text Is your business ready for the new era of accounting? http://www.ifrs.co.uk This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't now. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM À : Cobert, Gwendal Cc : 313 Detroit Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? you can't download a concert. On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The interesting effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the tour companies. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures. Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet her Australian shows have sold out. I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, not record sales, is their main source of income these days. Australia has always had a strong live circuit though. -- From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM On the music doesn't sell as much as it used to... tip - I've read that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as well, or just some European cultural exception ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as of yet. There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals and everything - superb. The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for videos, ha ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their music at all.
RE: (313) jaded
Only ten years of listening to Desert scores by Ian O'Brien, Music has the rights ... by BOC, and Night drive by Cybotron, and still hugely enjoying them... Can't really imagine any of that stuff aging (and these are just a few examples off the top of my head) Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 10:44 AM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) jaded there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12 comes second with connective zone's 'function' track third. not that you care, but i've had my fun and that's all that matters. right, enough of my blathering, back to the music and lurking for me. aidano thanks, aidan
RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The interesting effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the tour companies. Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures. Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet her Australian shows have sold out. I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, not record sales, is their main source of income these days. Australia has always had a strong live circuit though. -- From: Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM On the music doesn't sell as much as it used to... tip - I've read that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as well, or just some European cultural exception ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as of yet. There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals and everything - superb. The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for videos, ha ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their music at all.
RE: (313) Re: Jaded/Force Inc.
Wrong again : www.milleplateauxmedia.com ;-) Nice to see them back on track, though. In the same vein, ambient guys may not have noticed that legendary Em:t have released a couple of fresh new comps... Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 5:58 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) Re: Jaded/Force Inc. On Monday, October 11, 2004, at 04:47 pm, Ken Odeluga wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The correct URL is www.milleplateuxmedia.com Sorry. k
RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
On the music doesn't sell as much as it used to... tip - I've read that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as well, or just some European cultural exception ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as of yet. There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals and everything - superb. The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for videos, ha ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their music at all.
RE: (313) Record pressing in USA
Maybe something stupid : Amazon now offers Marketplace services. Here in France, it seems a good number of the sellers are professional, and they're sending from the US... And it's relatively cheap : for example, Caiman (www.caiman.com) charged me EUR2.49 for a single CD, that took about 2 weeks to cross the Atlantic... So maybe there's something there ? Maybe there's also a loophole in taxes, different laws for some US states ? Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 04, 2004 6:42 PM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : Re: (313) Record pressing in USA However, there must be a relatively cheap way, as all those tight a** record dealers I know get entire collections and half of warehouses shipped back. And there's no way they're paying top dollar. I should ask. Hi Alex, Shipping by the Pallet is what makes things much cheaper when shipping overseas. Unfortunately 500-1000 records won't fill a pallet. Dave
RE: (313) If
Berlin, rather... It's got quite a comparable history to Detroit as well... Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Tuesday, September 21, 2004 5:52 PM À : Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org Objet : RE: (313) If Brixton -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:51 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Wanted: Minty Freshness. Metro Area needs your help
nope - SECAM rules ;-)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECAM#Facetious_interpretations_of_the_SECAM_acronym Gwendal -Original Message- From: carl plugtwo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 6:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Wanted: Minty Freshness. Metro Area needs your help Presumably they'll want it in NTSC format, rather than PAL. And let's not get into a discussion about the relative merits of both systems. Let's just say PAL is better :-) carl morris Plug Two http://www.plugtwo.com t +442920190151 - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: (313) Wanted: Minty Freshness. Metro Area needs your help passing this on from Environ, who don't have access to UK TV: Environ offers a bounty of an Environ T-shirt and the next 5 releases shipped to your door if anyone can grab this (toothpaste commercial using their music) on tape, and mail it to them. no kidding. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) New here but ...
And I thought 313 wasn't a likely place for the eternal debate about French fries vs Belgian fries. (Never forget that not all Belgians speak French, though...) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) New here but ... Belgium, France, whatever... it's like Austrians saying they're different than Germans and vice-versa, or Canadians trying to tell you they're not American ;) Sorry Dimi, I assumed based upon the @free.fr address, Belgians make better fries anyway!! Tosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Dimi's from (French speaking) Belgium, but that's not the point now. Anyway, I've just got word that some things are moving at the Governor's office. Can't confirm anything now, but it seems that Juan might be included after all. I'll let Dimi announce the good news when it is confirmed. After all it's his initiative that will have brought this about! Respect! John Well it's good to see that people from France have stepped up and done what should have been done by Detroiters. Freedom fries exactly. Tosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 September 2004 21:16 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) New here but ... We have starting an action since we know the exclusion of Juan Atkins from the Michigan Art Committee 'awards' due to his actual location. The problem is now resolved. We have just receiving a mail who inform us that the correction will be available soon as possible. Now, the international achievement is for Juan atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson. Reowned as 'The Belleville three'.
RE: (313) jesus h christ
They better be good - it's gonna be really disappointing if it's not a masterpiece ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 1:00 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) jesus h christ Can't beleive nobody else on the list has posted this info from littledetroit: BTW - if I may I 've got a little bit of exciting news. After 10 yrs or so ART is again about to release a compilation - this time in conjunction with New Religion. Should see the light of day in early 05 and the line-up is insane... Ian O'Brien, NewWorldAquarium, Mark Pritchard (yes, doing techno), Balil (yes, NEW Balil material), Carl Craig, and I'm trying to get Derrick to dig out an old 16 trk of an unreleased masterpiece he did way back when, Juan Atkins and I've even asked some of the bruk beat guys to submit some techno - more news when its all confirmed - hopefully we'll organise a clubnight to launch it all, etc. Anyway - enough of the techno-spam... Kirk jesus h christ- that's all I've got to say Jason
RE: (313) new film looks rather techno
Soundtrack by David Holmes ! sounds good... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) new film looks rather techno http://www.mgm.com/ua/code46/# In an eerily possible near-future, where cities are heavily controlled and only accessible through checkpoints, people cannot travel unless they have papelles (special travel insurance). Beyond these cities are shanty towns jammed with non-citizens who lack the necessary papers and whose lives are severely restricted. When an investigator (Tim Robbins) is sent to solve a case of fake papelles, he falls in love with the woman behind the forgeries (Samantha Morton). Directed by Michael Winterbottom (In This World, 24 Hour Party People).
RE: (313) Lekebusch ( for the Madlib fans)
Yeah, I think he can be seen as one of them, several releases on Code Red, Drum Codes... this being said, I always preferred him to the rest, because his stuff always sounded funkier, funnier. And yes, his latest album is good and different - I guess you're referring to The architect ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:56 AM To: Phonopsia; 313@hyperreal.org; Southern Outpost Subject: Re: (313) for the Madlib fans The Madvillain album is probably the best full length so far this year (to continue my trend of lofty, untimely proclomations). ;) MF Doom is a bad-ass MC. WORD! (as these chaps might say) P.S. Just listening to the new Cari Lekebusch LP on Truesoul, anyone have any opinions on this guy - is he part of the scandinavian looped bangers massive? The LP is decidely unloopy with a few quite good tracks in fact (though nothing earth-shattering).
RE: (313) Lekebusch ( for the Madlib fans)
Funny, cause I'm playing Orbital at the moment - but not the orange, their Octane OST. Great dark ambient stuff. Need to dig out those old Orbital albums more ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:30 AM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Lekebusch ( for the Madlib fans) At 3:15 am -0500 24/8/04, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: Yeah, I think he can be seen as one of them, several releases on Code Red, Drum Codes... this being said, I always preferred him to the rest, because his stuff always sounded funkier, funnier. And yes, his latest album is good and different - I guess you're referring to The architect ? Gwendal That's the one - playing track 8 at the moment, pretty good - reminds me of orange album Orbital.
RE: (313) Looking For New 'Detroit'-Style Techno
Hum... the first Senor Coconut was really good I thought, not gimmicky at all (the second one was), it really showed how good are Kraftwerk tunes, the way they remain excellent songs whatever dress you put on them. Plus, Senor on stage was fabulous... The Nouvelle Vague, on first listen, didn't strike me as really good, though it is a funny idea and tracks will soon end up on Buddha Bar / trendy lounge comps and the like... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:34 PM To: David Beattie; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Looking For New 'Detroit'-Style Techno Sounds like my reaction to Senor Coconut -Original Message- From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:33 PM To: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Looking For New 'Detroit'-Style Techno --- Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone heard that Nouvell Vague thing on Peacefrog? Genius or gimmick? I have it - if you listen to one or two of the songs I think its different, melodic and quite nicely done however if you try and listen to the album as a whole its all in the same vein and gets pretty repetitive (all good just not at the same time is my view) Cheers BT # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Universal Techno
I think it's one of their best singles ever, plus one of the tracks that turned me to techno in the first place... the sound on that track is simply terrifying. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Universal Techno is it just me, or does anybody else think 'Tied Up' is the worst track LFO has ever done? it seems to be getting all this attention lately, it's on the upcoming Warp DVD compilation I believe... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:16 pm Subject: (313) Universal Techno Anyone heard or seen this documentary? Came out around 97-98 Below is a partial review of it (includes comments of another documentaryas well) __ Universal Techno, directed by Dominique Deluze last year, covering the scenes in Europe, USA and Japan. The film started with Richard D James wandering in some eerie catacombs, explaining how it feels like home, and eventually almost looked like Who's Who in Techno, featuring Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Juan Atkins, Kenny Larkin, Jeff Mills, even Mike Banks(who only agreed to be interviewed with his face covered); from Europe (vastly overrated but for this feature essential, I guess) Sven Väth, Autechre (touring in Barcelona), Mark Bell of (and these days also all of) LFO, Steve Beckett of Warp Records; and from Japan, Ken Ishii. All in all, and what usually troubles all features of this kind, the documentary felt at times too patchy, giving artists only a chance to provide some memorable soundbites at their best (the scene with Derrick May and his visual designer giving a weird rap on the tenth planet of solarsystem was great!); with some interesting glimpes to the streets of Detroit (which looked at times like some post-apocalyptic war zone, really), Sheffield and Tokyo, and of course to some sublime-looking raves, parties(Jeff Mills in all-DJ action, mmm...), gigs and videos (Ken Ishii's'Extra', LFO's 'Tied Up' and Autechre's 'Second Bad Vilbel'). And as usually, the omissions were almost as remarkable as what was featured there: where were for example Robert Hood, Carl Craig or RichieHawtin; all jungle and trip hop (or hardcore) artists; or minimalists like Maurizio and Sähkö/Panasonic posse (I must be biased here...) -- but obviously it's totally impossible to cover all scene in merely an hour.
RE: (313) Vangelis influences in techno (was Blade Runner)
Suspiria : as with many Italian horror movies from the 70's, soundtrack by Goblin - a must-check for everybody who's into early electronics. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:00 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; Anya K Stang; Ken Odeluga Subject: Re: (313) Vangelis influences in techno (was Blade Runner) Carl Craig's Susperia... a spooky track named for the italian film it might help if i spelled it right: Suspiria see also http://imdb.com/title/tt0076786/ -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) Techno Films 23
Regarding Jodorowsky, he's also a lot into psychanalysis and zen ; most famous for the Incal comic book, an amazing sci-fi series... very interesting guy. I don't think you can say he runs a cult though, as far as I'm aware. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 5:19 PM To: 313 List Subject: (313) Techno Films 23 Now I'm feeling a little better... For me I'd have to go for something by Alejandro Jodorsky, maybe Santa Sangre. Dark, twisted and outside norm, not a cliche in sight - a very clever film that works on many levels - very techno! Cheers Martin
RE: (313) Techno Films 23
Oh, and while we're at it, Forbidden Planet has been mentioned, but no word has been said of its great soundtrack : Louis Bebe Barron were responsible for it, they were also responsible, I think, for the samples of alien music we can hear in the movie... other musicians who did a great deal of electronic soundtracks would be Wendy/Walter Carlos (Tron, Clockwork Orange), and John Carpenter (he scored a good number of his movies, tracks of him sometimes resurface on comps or mixes)... Gwendal -Original Message- From: mxll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:10 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 List Subject: RE: (313) Techno Films 23 Thanx for finally spelling the guys name right Henrik Regarding Jodorowsky, he's also a lot into psychanalysis and zen ; most famous for the Incal comic book, an amazing sci-fi series... very interesting guy. I don't think you can say he runs a cult though, as far as I'm aware. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 5:19 PM To: 313 List Subject: (313) Techno Films 23 Now I'm feeling a little better... For me I'd have to go for something by Alejandro Jodorsky, maybe Santa Sangre. Dark, twisted and outside norm, not a cliche in sight - a very clever film that works on many levels - very techno! Cheers Martin
RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the lurrrrve./ Alternative Country
Country House - like the KLF featuring Tammy Wynette ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country I'm tipping Country House as the Next Big Thing talking of country. what on earth is Alternative Country? seems a few heads are on it, I feel left out! I believe Peacefrog's sister label are in this bracket. (apparently) http://www.agendamusic.com/ anyone got any recommendations? or what bands are labelled as this? anyone know? Ta _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the lurrrrve./ Alternative Country
Yup. Calexico, Wilco, Lambchop are all good. Re, Calexico, try at least their cover of Love's Alone again or... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country Calexico I heard of these ones. Good? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the lurrrrve./ Alternative Country
and just before being flamed to death for off-topicness, two more names : My Morning Jacket, and maybe also Modest Mouse ; the second one has very interesting electronic moments, which might justify them here. Erm. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:44 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country Bonny Prince Billy as well but this is so off topic MEK Cobert, Gwendal [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org visors.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country 07/26/04 06:29 AM Yup. Calexico, Wilco, Lambchop are all good. Re, Calexico, try at least their cover of Love's Alone again or... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country Calexico I heard of these ones. Good? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the lurrrrve./ Alternative Country
Oh yeah. Will Oldham has released stuff under a number of monikers, Will Oldham, Bonnie Prince Billy (already mentioned), Palace Brothers, Palace Music... and I think he has no family relationship with Alan Oldham (do I get points for the 313 connection ?). Gwendal -Original Message- From: Allen Goodman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country One would be wise to check out all the Palace Music material. amg On Jul 26, 2004, at 7:29 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: Yup. Calexico, Wilco, Lambchop are all good. Re, Calexico, try at least their cover of Love's Alone again or... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Top '5's' Show me the luve./ Alternative Country Calexico I heard of these ones. Good? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) anthony rother
Exception to your point about Techno guys should probably never add their own vocals on their records : the latest Two Lone Swordsmen, which I find exceedingly good - kind of a new take on the electroclash thingy, both referential and fresh sounding IMHO. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) anthony rother his new record, popkiller, is terrible. The songs themselves are alright, if a little redundant considering his body of work. But then he went and put vocals on top of all of them, ah, his vocals make richie's vocals on closer seem deep. Techno guys should probably never add their own vocals on their records. Luke Slater another good cause in point.Maybe having a sample of somebody else saying something would be alright, I like and play alot of music with distorted and messed up vocals/call response. But I sort of don't want to know techno guys take on poetry, love, or mysticism. Well I have to take that half way back, I can take Dj rush's meandering babble any day. Generally let the music speak for itself. tom
RE: (313) Dark Comedy
Apparently it's asking for a login ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Rebelbass/bookings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:31 AM To: matrix313; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Dark Comedy m... yummie ;-) playmate Kenny lady aida oh wait. wasnt it Sextronica©?? damn you kenny Larkin! a new sub genre already!? on 7/22/04 5:39 PM, matrix313 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep! this may be one of the hottest releases in the Sextronic© genre since it's inception earlier this morning :^) DJ sleazy d on 7/22/04 5:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all i can say to that is... HOLY CRAP!!! On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, matrix313 wrote: pssstwant to preview the artwork for the next Kenny Larkin project? a little something for the ladies :^) http://www.creativemf.com/clients/darkcomedy/ (if anyone asks: you didn't hear it from me.)
RE: (313) Some of Claus Bachor's Tracklist from the weekend
BTW, is it worth it to go see Roy Ayers live these days ? I've seen he'll be playing in a Paris jazz club end of July... and I don't know what to expect ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:38 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Some of Claus Bachor's Tracklist from the weekend just to say here is some of the records Claus played from the weekend, there are some absolute corkers in there.. roy ayers: hot - dub mix (columbia us 12, 1985)
RE: (313) FNAC
Weren't at least some of the Deepside mixes on Transmat releases first ? and haven't a number of these tracks resurfaced on compilations from Navarre and Garnier ? I thought FNAC mostly licensed stuff - I still have some early Warp comps with the logo on them ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: placid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:05 PM To: 'Matt MacQueen'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) FNAC Aurora borealis wa amazing. Deepside - tolerance ep and the double pack. I'm not sure if I have 'seclude' Laurent garnier - A bout de soufflé wake up Modus vivendi - modus vivendi Shazz - lost illusion Ln's - good for me no good for me dub St germain - motherland ep Soofle - nouveaux ep Laurent garnier - planet house double pack Choice - obviously that ones in there Dave angel - new orchestration Deep contest - riposte p I was on the ball when they came out :) -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 17:00 To: Brendan Nelson Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) FNAC On Jun 29, 2004, at 5:53 AM, Brendan Nelson wrote: I even did an *ambient* mix last week, weirdly enough, with Ralph Hildenbeutel, Global Communication, Koh Tao and Space featuring quite prominently. sounds dope actually , would this be avail. for download? Non-Stop-Pillow-DJz PRESENTZ:... haha On the 313 tip, though, I've been going back to some old gems such as French by Ludovic Navarre (can't really get enough of that at the moment) I hear that. I'm bummed I slept on a lot of that good FNAC / F-Comm back in the early 90s..lots of average records as the catalog progressed, but some truly brilliant ones mixed in there too. I'm surprised with all the reissues of that era not to see some of these come back out again, like some of the Deepside like Heart of Space, etc. Or the Soofle record that had 'how do you plead' on it (genius), but there were a few other cuts too on that i've never even heard. They should re-issue those Deepside remixes of Art of Stalking! peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) FNAC
I have those Art of Stalking mixes on maxi-CD, I'm certain of both the FNAC and Transmat logos on it, will try to see if they mention licensing from Transmat... There was a fair deal of cross-licensing at the time between labels, esp over the Atlantic ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: Sven Venema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 1:19 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) FNAC Weren't at least some of the Deepside mixes on Transmat releases first ? and haven't a number of these tracks resurfaced on compilations from Navarre and Garnier ? I thought FNAC mostly licensed stuff - I still have some early Warp comps with the logo on them ! Gwendal I was just thinking that.. My copy of Modus Vivendi is on Warp (WAP 35) with no mention of FNAC.. Sven
RE: (313) you listen to techno?
he he, exactly my case... took a while before accepted that headphones actually helped me concentrate. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) you listen to techno? I stick to headphones at work, unless I'm staying late or hardly anyone's around. I sit in an open area and the music helps shut off the rest of the world so I can focus on computer schtuff. a couple times people ask what I'm listening to, but if I tell them or share a listen, I usually get the oh, OK followed by an odd look that says you're strange. This morning's selection is something by the Orb, 'cos I gotta chill. lisa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:24 am Subject: (313) you listen to techno? ...just started working with my current employer about a month ago. desk job, cubicle, plenty o' coffee. anyway, there's a fairly relaxed policy towards music in cubicles. as a result, i spend most of my 8hrs. with great house and techno pumpin' out of my little PC speakers. naturally, this being suburban america, i am the only commuter listening to the music of this list for about 60 miles in all directions. i get my fair share of raised eyebrows and cheeky comments from co-workers that are not familiar with my weird bass music. i'm all alone in a sea of alarmist talk radio, and toby keith anthems. i'm just curious if any other list-members are immersed in a similar environment. cheers, lrh
RE: (313) RIP Robert Quine
Quine started out as a Velvet Underground fan, we owe him the Quine Tapes that were released a couple of years ago... great solo work, big loss. And yes, it was suicide... Gwendal -Original Message- From: theREALmxyzptlk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:54 AM To: 313-hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) RIP Robert Quine It should be noted that legendary guitarist Robert Quine (most notably a Voidoid, later played for Lou Reed) passed away last week, apparently via suicide. Didn't want to see it go unmentioned in the wake of other, perhaps more identifiable, persons having passed recently. Brilliant, manic guitar. jeff np- Love Comes in Spurts
RE: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Experiment)
Oh, I don't think you can go wrong with MO ! I would rather suggest Birds of fire, but it's (almost) all good... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Intergalactic jazz-rock (Detroit Experiment) On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so any suggestions for good fusion jazz/rock with enough funk in it to keep it steering clear of smooth jazz? Mahavishnu Orchestra Inner Mounting Flame -- especially Dance of the Maya
RE: Re: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04
huh ? what part did he play ? had a quick look in allmusic.com, didn't find his name. Anyway, they weren't that bad, and their music hasn't aged too badly, I think... maybe try to check out their albums, they have been recently re-released ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 3:56 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Re: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04 no mention of Von Oswaldt other wellknown plastic pop-adventure, Propaganda. God, that was some bad music though imho. Blehg. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Future
Too bad they were all Fascists - wrong as far as I know, many of them were, Marinetti, their leader, was, but their relationship was more complex than that... Marinetti was barely tolerated by Mussolini, and very soon several movements emerged over the world (esp Russia and South America), who took care of retaining the main ideas behind futurism while making themselves very distinct politically ; many were closer to communism, in fact. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: AW: (313) Future I think space has become a dated concept as people realise that not even the present is really enjoyable. Wars, poverty, debts, pollution... Why being exited about the future? It might suck even more... Maybe it's time for some Post-Futurism. Or maybe not... this is what I found about Futurism as an art form: Futurism was an international art movement founded in Italy in 1909. It was (and is) a refreshing contrast to the weepy sentimentalism of Romanticism. The Futurists loved speed, noise, machines, pollution, and cities; they embraced the exciting new world that was then upon them rather than hypocritically enjoying the modern world's comforts while loudly denouncing the forces that made them possible. Fearing and attacking technology has become almost second nature to many people today; the Futurist manifestos show us an alternative philosophy. Too bad they were all Fascists. http://www.unknown.nu/futurism/ Manifesto of Futurism 1. We intend to sing the love of danger, the habit of energy and fearlessness. 2. Courage, audacity, and revolt will be essential elements of our poetry. 3. Up to now literature has exalted a pensive immobility, ecstasy, and sleep. We intend to exalt aggresive action, a feverish insomnia, the racer's stride, the mortal leap, the punch and the slap. 4. We affirm that the world's magnificence has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. A racing car whose hood is adorned with great pipes, like serpents of explosive breath-a roaring car that seems to ride on grapeshot is more beautiful than the Victory of Samothrace. 5. We want to hymn the man at the wheel, who hurls the lance of his spirit across the Earth, along the circle of its orbit. 6. The poet must spend himself with ardor, splendor, and generosity, to swell the enthusiastic fervor of the primordial elements. 7. Except in struggle, there is no more beauty. No work without an aggressive character can be a masterpiece. Poetry must be conceived as a violent attack on unknown forces, to reduce and prostrate them before man. 8. We stand on the last promontory of the centuries!... Why should we look back, when what we want is to break down the mysterious doors of the Impossible? Time and Space died yesterday. We already live in the absolute, because we have created eternal, omnipresent speed. 9. We will glorify war-the world's only hygiene-militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of freedom-bringers, beautiful ideas worth dying for, and scorn for woman. 10. We will destroy the museums, libraries, academies of every kind, will fight moralism, feminism, every opportunistic or utilitarian cowardice. 11. We will sing of great crowds excited by work, by pleasure, and by riot; we will sing of the multicolored, polyphonic tides of revolution in the modern capitals; we will sing of the vibrant nightly fervor of arsenals and shipyards blazing with violent electric moons; greedy railway stations that devour smoke-plumed serpents; factories hung on clouds by the crooked lines of their smoke; bridges that stride the rivers like giant gymnasts, flashing in the sun with a glitter of knives; adventurous steamers that sniff the horizon; deep-chested locomotives whose wheels paw the tracks like the hooves of enormous steel horses bridled by tubing; and the sleek flight of planes whose propellers chatter in the wind like banners and seem to cheer like an enthusiastic crowd. http://www.unknown.nu/futurism/manifesto.html -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. April 2004 10:50 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: (313) the future whatever happened to the future? did it become an outdated concept? as I sat watching Matthew Herbert and his bag of crisps band last night, I realised I was watching a 50 year old (at least) show. then, I thought, all the bands I've seen lately have harked to the past, really heavily. All the records I buy are obsessed with the past, or are old. even techno isn't futuristic any more. Jeff Mills scores films from the '20's, Red Planet titles are all about native american indian issues, instead of sex in zero gravity or journey to the martian polar cap.. There's no time, space, transmat business anymore. I mean, even the word transmat was made up wasn't it? No one does that any more, there's no dreamers
RE: (313) the future (Red Planet)
?? Interesting, would you have pointers to both these UFOs and these books ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:21 PM To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) the future (Red Planet) Native americans were the first to depict UFOs in their art - there is also a history of African-American writing centred around the idea of the black man as a lost alien race. -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:12 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) the future (Red Planet) How can Journey To The Martian Polar Cap have absolutely anything to do with native American Indian issues? Red Planet titles are all about native American Indian issues *** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. *** # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) OT Prince LP
I think it started with All the ctritics love you in New York, back at the end of 1999 ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:01 PM To: 313@HYPERREAL.ORG Subject: Re: (313) OT Prince LP thanks for that Sean. www.npgrecords.com I'd not seen this before! It's cool, check it out, loads of music to download. I need that Rainbow Children on Vinyl though : ( I just got told that new LP isn't coming on vinyl either. bah. anyway, there's a track on this site called all the critics luv u in Paris! must be a live version or something.. worth a look! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes
OK, thanks to all who gave me pointers ! Had a couple of listens, esp to the Terrence Parker mixes on www.gospelhousemusic.com , interesting... guess it's too house for me, though ; but the idea of having a genre that's traditionnally hedonistic used for Christian promotion is a bit weird... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 4:23 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes Just about any Basement Boys production - especially Jasper Street Company records http://www.basementboys.com/main.htm they have a label called God's House Records - I think that says it all look for stuff by Ann Nesby both Strictly and Nervous have also put out a fair amount of music that falls into this style there's lots of stuff listen here http://www.gospelhousemusic.com/ MEK Gospel house ??? First time I see mention of that, could it be possible to name some good records of that genre ? thanks ! Gwendal
RE: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes
Gospel house ??? First time I see mention of that, could it be possible to name some good records of that genre ? thanks ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) TP - was Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes - Original Message - From: DelCimmuto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ed612313 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:25 AM Subject: Re: (313) That Friday Question/Claude Young Mixes speaking of which, wasn't TP calling it quits at the end of 2002 or 2003? To summarize briefly, he was going to retire for religious reasons - issues with the rave scene (and more), but then opted to adjust his musical policy and continue to do things on terms he could feel comfortable with. He is still DJing quite actively, but with more of a focus on gospel house, and while I've not heard him since the shift, all reports indicate he still rocks it. Please let's not turn this into another opportunity to crap on Terrence's religiosity. He's had a very difficult and intense life, and if his ever-increasing devotion to God makes him happy, then I'm happy for him. Yeah, he can get a bit preachy about it, but if you were to speak to him in person about it you'd know that he's not trying to impose his views on anyone - he's just very enthused about what he believes. Or at least that's how I see it. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) La Haine (was ron's edits)
... just for the record : La Haine dates from 1995, has it just been released in the US ? and since then Kassovitz has moved to Hollywood (Gothika, with Halle Berry) ; the banlieue (with an e) is French for suburbs, so you've got good (posh) suburbs and bad (projects etc) suburbs. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:03 PM To: robin; 'Dr. Nutcracker'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) La Haine (was ron's edits) This film is a 'must see', spellbinding from start to finish. So powerful that a special screening was arranged for the French Cabinet to help them understand the 'street' situation for young Parisians from the Banlieu (Parisian equivalent of NYCs projects). Great music too as Robin said. The Director is Matthieu Kassovitz (sp?), who was also in Amelie, though I'm having trouble imagining two more dissimilar films. It's been a couple of years since I saw it, but didn't notice 'I Can't Turn Around' on the soundtrack. I have to admit that I am UTTERLY obsessed with this track at the moment - I go into some kind of weird body spasm trance every time I hear it. I also keep making all my friends listen to it, but they just look at me like I'm weird Anyone else get that with tracks sometimes where no one else seems to understand? (The new Madvillain track is my other one like that at the moment) At 12:43 pm + 19/3/04, robin wrote: - isaac hayes - i can't turn around (from the album - chocolate chip, first - track on that album is used in the movie la haine, anyone - seen that?) - - Yeah Jurren... - I was quit surpised that there are movies which are able to - struck me. - And this one definitely did back then! - The movie follows the life within a few days of three - friends all from a - different background. - - Some excellent shots and excellent music... this is a great film. one track in this film stands out: KRS1's - sound of tha police (played out of a towerblock...classic) robin...
RE: (313) Kraftwerk - what you can do to bring them to Movement
talking about attention to detail... apparently they had some technical difficulties at their French show : had to reboot the computer that played the videos (crowd booed when they saw the Windows 2000 startup screen...) and when the robots came, three of them were facing the crowd, but the fourth was facing the right side of the theatre ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:52 PM To: Cyc lone Wehner Cc: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Kraftwerk - what you can do to bring them to Movement I can't believe Kraftwerk wouldn't drop their fee, and just do it for a gift, but hey I don't know the full story. Oh come on... Do you know what must cost them to put on a show of that size and technical prowess, both with their exceedingly high standards of audio and video quality? I mean, their shows are utterly mindblowing for good reasons, that can't be cheap to put on. I think offering a discount is one thing, but come-on.. their live show is so excellent because of attention to every detail, that takes a lot of work, prep and help.. which in a modern age translates into money for equipment, set, transportation, crew, etc. If you are talking just about the artists fee though, that is something I would hope they would consider reducing, since it is a FREE event afterall. Believe me I think they would be the ULTIMATE act at a Detroit movement festival.. but to expect them to do it for free is just unrealistic. Should we start a letter-writing campaign to Kraftwerk though, to get them to reconsider and try to work it out and make it possible? :) Everybody mail them a postcard from where you're from.. email never has the same effect. What's a street address to reach them? -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) 2 lone swordsmen
(in the distance, saliva dripping) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 5:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) 2 lone swordsmen from the pages of Warp Two Lone Swordsmen have completed their new album, entitled From The Double Gone Chapel. Scheduled for release on 19th May, the album will be followed later in 2004 with a single and TLS live shows. From The Double Gone Chapel features vocals by Andrew himself, Keith Tenniswood on bass, plus lots of live drums, keyboards and guitar. Revisiting the murky, seedy London underbelly evoked by classic Sabres like Haunted Dancehall , the album is full of the Swordsmen?s many influences - dub, goth, industrial, electro, punk psychobilly and more.
RE: (313) Techno's Video (was voice)
Some tips: Studio !K7 have quite a series of DVDs, the Lux series, the X-Mix... not everything has aged well, though. Daft Punk made quite an impressive anime movie to go along their latest album ; I don't know about other countries, but in France there have been a series of DVDs each about a specific guy, Jonze, Gondry and Cunningham for now... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesd ay, March 10, 2004 5:35 PM To: Andrew Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313 Techno's Video (was voice) A cool thing about techno is that it never went down that path, although a truly visual representation of techno is probably waiting to happen - I always pictured the coolest scenes from Drexciya making it into videos, kind of a window into that world, an underwater dance party... and I guess it's people like Jeff who are leading the charge with his DVD. As I mentioned once before on this list - there used to be a website that had videos of techno artists but is no longer in operation. It's too bad because they had Carl Craig's Televised Green Smoke video - which was very cool. I'd love to see some collection on DVD of Detroit techno/house videos past and present. With all the underground video makers and people like Michel Gondry and such into cutting edge/underground music you'd think someone would be approaching some techno heads to make videos. I don't mean some shaky hand-held DV shot in a dark club but actual music videos with concepts and higher production. Anyone remember the Inner City videos? If not check them out on KMS's website. I know - nowadays it takes major label money to make most videos but I don't think this is entirely true anymore with the technology and talent available MEK
RE: (313) O/T: Ghent This Weekend
a bit late, but... Kim Kurz Seba Lecompte LivePA (B - SoundAttack) Is that the MC from Canada ? heard him on albums by Ghislain Poirier, interesting stuff going on in canadian hip-hop... Gwendal
RE: (313) Big Chill vs Detroit Techno (wasThe story of the Original Hot Mix 5)
From my personal experience : among my friends, a number of them will know (and love), say, Plastikman, Kenny Larkin, and Maurizio, but without necessarily seeing them as part of a common scene / network of influences... they won't know what 313 means, but know the artists talked about. Gwendal Just to keep it relevant to 313, I was quite surprised (or perhaps not?) by the total ignorance of most people posting on that thread about what 313 techno even was.
RE: (313) edits
And now for a VERY stupid question... what is the difference between an edit and a remix ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:14 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313 edits edits edits edits. the world went edit mad anyway, I got the Magick Edit Allstars 12, and they made a right mess of the labels, 01 has the labels of 02 and vice versa. (these are good edits btw I think, worth having, little extended bits, few crazy fx etc). they made 'slicks' spacebass sound much better! BUT, there's a track on there that I don't recognise that I'm trying to find out what it is.. It's the 2nd track on the side that has two tracks on (theres only one side with 2 tracks) and it's a killer boogie number that Mood II Swing sampled for one of their best tracks. anyone know? also, do you remember the Magick Kuts bootleg 12's that were about a few years ago? I think these might be the same guys as them, but just doing more boogie/disco tracks that have been famously sampled in house, as opposed to the others which were more electronic oddities.. and, another thing, I managed to get an Omar S 002 12 - not listened yet - is there Omar01? that's it today, I promise. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) edits
... sounds like the best answer so far. Bringing a second question : a re-edit is usually done without the original artist's authorization, while a remix is commissioned by the artist, right ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:42 A M To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 Subject: Re: (313 edits what is the difference between an edit and a remix ??? A re-edit, in the original sense of the word, uses only the final two-channel (stereo) recording of a song, which is then cut up, extended, shortened, reversed, put through effects etc. These days this would most likely be done in audio software like Pro Tools, Logic or Cubase, but in the old days it would be done by cutting and splicing quarter-inch reel-to-reel tape. A remix, on the other hand, is generally done by someone who's been given access to the original multi-track tape (in the old days) or individual sounds, loops, samples, beats etc (today). The remixer can then use as many or as few of the original building blocks of the song as they like, in conjunction with musical elements created themselves, to create a new track which uses any number of parts of the original. The primary difference being that anyone with a copy of the record can do their own 'edit', but to do a proper 'remix' you need the original producer to provide you with the song's original 'building blocks' in isolation. Cheers, Tom
RE: (313) edits
You're right - I guess I should re-read that book, I read it several years ago now and I've discovered a lot of stuff since then ! Gwendal -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:04 PM To: Cob ert, Gwendal Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313 edits not necessarily, to pick one example if you look back over detroit history a lot of tracks were created by one person and then re-edited before release by another person. it's how a lot of detroit artists got their break... (it's mentioned in Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels btw, a book i recommend anyone read if they haven't already)...of course this was in the days of tape edits. robin... ... sounds like the best answer so far. Bringing a second question : a re-edit is usually done without the original artist's authorization, while a remix is commissioned by the artist, right ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:42 A M To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313 Subject: Re: (313 edits what is the difference between an edit and a remix ??? A re-edit, in the original sense of the word, uses only the final two-channel (stereo) recording of a song, which is then cut up, extended, shortened, reversed, put through effects etc. These days this would most likely be done in audio software like Pro Tools, Logic or Cubase, but in the old days it would be done by cutting and splicing quarter-inch reel-to-reel tape. A remix, on the other hand, is generally done by someone who's been given access to the original multi-track tape (in the old days) or individual sounds, loops, samples, beats etc (today). The remixer can then use as many or as few of the original building blocks of the song as they like, in conjunction with musical elements created themselves, to create a new track which uses any number of parts of the original. The primary difference being that anyone with a copy of the record can do their own 'edit', but to do a proper 'remix' you need the original producer to provide you with the song's original 'building blocks' in isolation. Cheers, Tom
(313) DJ Stingray
Nice color shot of him mixing on the Warp website http://www.warprecords.com/media/img/stingray.jpg Gwendal
RE: (313) regarding the Force Inc. family situation
... let's not forget that Force Inc also means Position Chrome (ie, some of the best drum'n bass releases ever), Mille Plateaux, Ritornell and Force Lab... an electronic world without Force Inc would be a much less interesting place ! http://www.discogs.com/label/Force_Inc-_Music_Works Gwendal -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 1 3, 2004 6:12 PM To: 'Andrew'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) regarding the Force Inc. family situation I shall drink to Chord Memory aswell, although I am saying cheers to the original mix... -Original Message- From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2004 5:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) regarding the Force Inc. family situation OK let's big it up for Force Inc.!!! My favourite Force Inc. has to be the Daft Punk remix of Ian Pooley's 'Chord Memory'. That's closely followed by the Livingstone EP by Luomo on Force Tracks, which I can't seem to find anywhere now. Deck The House by Akufen is a fave too. Can't remember anmy others. Have a nice weekend everybody :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2004 16:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) regarding the Force Inc. family situation There has been talk recently on the 313 and IDM lists regarding the Force Inc family situation and postulations being made. Being a label owner myself (Cognition Audioworks), it distressed me to see such talk (I'm sure most label owners would like to see their label succeed and have all their artists be happy and successful and would not want to see negative postulations being made). I emailed Jon Berry (who was the North American representative for the Force Inc. family until he left to start his own publicity/representation company (Regenerate Industries)) to see if he (Jon) could clarify things on behalf of Achim (Force Inc. family label owner). Below is Jon Berry's reply: The past year hasn't been easy for Achim Szepanski (the owner) and the Force Inc. family. I am not at liberty to go into the details, but there has been a level of uncertainty of the labels future for some time. I will say this. Through my years of knowing him, Achim has never had any premeditated intention of ripping an artist off, nor has he ever been very communicative over the years with the artists on the label - particularly over this past year. It was an honor to work for the man, and his contribution to electronic music over the years remains unparalleled. Unfortunately, rumors and truths leave me saddened for both the artists and the labels hopeful future. Andrew Duke Jason Trenholm was born 31 August 1969 and died 1 January 2004. We met when we were 5 years old; he was my best friend for the next 29 years.* Andrew Duke releases out now: Take Nothing For Granted http://cognitionaudioworks.com Environmental Politics http://and-oar.org Sprung http://bip-hop.com http://warprecords.com/mart/music/release.php? cat=BLEEP12fc_type=CD *Canadian electronica album of the year nominee* More Destructive Than Organized http://staalplaat.com Highest Common Denominator http://pieheadrecords.com Physical and Mental Health http://dialrecords.com 74'02 (split with Hypo) http://tsunami-addiction.com http://cognitionaudioworks.com ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
RE: (313) tresor meets apple
some of the files on these sites are in .xm format - what's the deal with those ? how do they achieve such compression levels ??? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Ronny Pries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) tresor meets apple I'm trying to offer the best spread between size and quality on my netlabels (www.rohformat.de, www.primative.net/schleudertrauma/ shameless self promotion - GOTCHA! ;). That's actually vbr mp3's compressed with lame 3.90.3 codec using the --alt-preset standard setting. Right now i'm almost alone with vbr in the netlabel scene. Many others still use lame compressed 192kb HQ mp3's. I would also love to offer .ogg which i consider to be way better, qualitywise - it's not yet spread broadly enough. Since a lot of people in our audience are using Traktor/FS i won't move to .ogg before N.I. will support it. On a sidenote, the difference between lame --alt-preset standard or .ogg and lossless formats isn't significant enough to approach our users with lossless compressed files that are up to 7 times bigger. Many people who download music from netlabels aren't flatrate or highspeed internet users. Maybe in some years the public request for lossless files will be strong enough to make the step. I don't see that for now as it's also a storageproblem, and hd's aren't up for this task yet ;) I personally think that discussion about file compression techniques should be hold under seperate cover (bet that'd be a nice flamewar, heh...) The thing that worries me most about apple etc, they all try to punish the user to use their own software to play their native formats. It's the same as with cd copy protection, the customers don't want to have limited access to products they buy. Back to aac (e.g.), converting between compressed formats doesn't make sense and are NO option as some industry people might tell us. About the bandwidth, storage space vs quality problem: Of course, bigger files have higher fixed costs. But why is there no option for the customers to choose buying better quality for a higher price? I bet the industry assumes that the usual customer is a dumbo and satisfied with the crap they sell there (pity, that's even true :/ ). Well, where is this heading to? I bet it needs some group effort in the underground, i.e. a foundation of independant labels offering music in reasonable quality. Instead, i have to learn that Tresor joins apple :( The only thing that makes me a little bit happy about the situation: the amount of hits on netlabel websites is steadily growing. So should i cry or laugh?.. My 2,5 €cent. Ronny two threads coming together at the same time... so as there are a lot of independent label runners on this list who might be considering digital distribution what format do you think digital releases should be released in? high bit rate lossy compressed format (mp3/ogg/aac) or full width wavs/aiffs? i favour the latter. i have the bandwidth tho. robin... - Too bad the quality offered by Apple is still way below enjoyable or - even playable :( Until the point they start selling music encoded - with reasonable codecs in a file format that can be used by any - application i - can only say: - - IT SUCKS. - - Even if the entire 313 music history would be available there. - - Thx for listening, - - Ronny
RE: (313) The right download format
It's also more risky. If you are downloading your 40 megabyte Lossless song and halfway through the connection breaks, then it has to be downloaded again, adding 20 cents to the cost. And we know that connections break often enough for this to be a problem. Can't you simply resume your file ? most download managers allow it, and so do FTPs and Soulseek... interesting take on the cost though, I didn't think it would be that expensive to transfer files ! Gwendal
RE: (313) tresor meets apple
Tresor still pushes boundaries it has to be admitted, towards that thin line between disturbing noise and music: E.g. that Mover - 'Frontal Frustration' LP. In what sense ? haven't even heard of that record Gwendal
RE: (313) radio playlist
not me... maybe you haven't downloaded their software ? what kind of problem do you have ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:16 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) radio playlist ...does anyone else have any problems accessing this website ?? Chris. http://www.pirateradionetwork.com/ show: detroit from sydney Anthony Shake Shakir - Live @ Hultfreds Festival blake baxter groovetech mix Carl Craig Live @ Polar TV, Berlin (16.11.2002) Carl Craig Live @ Pre Queensday - Zuidas - Amsterdam (29.4.2001) (4 hrs) D wynn souls in motion 2002 derrick carter - Live at Motor, Detroit, MI 11-25-2000 DJ Genesis mix 2 dwayne jensen(dangerous_underground_volume1)hq [EMAIL PROTECTED](5.01)hq IF - Live in Brooklyn, New York - 10 Jul 2001 313 rhythms 030303 (my mix) scream 25.04.03 (my mix) steve bug ricardo villalobos - live @ tresor, loveparade (7.12.02) titonton duvanté Live @ FM4 la boum deluxe Kenny Larkin Detroit Detroit Technology 02.27.1999 Kenny Larkin Detroit Detroit Technology 04.17.1999 Magda @ The Shelter (Detroit) 15.03.03 DJ_John_Acquaviva-Live_at_Haoman17_(102fm)-SAT-10-10--2003 Blackalicious - Live PA in Seattle Frankie Bones - Live @ Amnesia [23.08.90] Theo Parrish - Live on Radio Nova - France - November 2003 Michael Mayer @ Times Square, Detroit (27.09.03) ricardo villalobos @ summership 2003 Claude Young @ HW Nancy 26.12.03001 Derrick_May-Live_At_Haoman_17_Jerusalem_25-12-2003 (3 hrs) Dj Rolando - Live @ Stammheim Phoenix Festival [08.17.2003] jeff mills - live @ extreme fiction gates - belgium - 22-12-1995 should keep you going for around 30 hrs peace ed
RE: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler
Just a side note about Amp Fiddler : they'll be playing live in Paris in February - in the New Morning, a famous jazz club... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Marketing Ghostly and Amp Fiddler - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: RE: AW: (313) Derrick May quote and the Death of Techno all i know is that amp fiddler's music is not in any way groundbreaking but we cant keep a single 12 with his name on it in stock. people who are into hiphop and r+b have been buying his records as well as all the techno and house heads who have known about him for a little while now. It's really interesting to compare that to how the Amp Fiddler album is being pushed in the UK. Not sure if I've mentioned, but 'Waltz of a Ghetto Fly' got 4 of 5 stars in the Metro, which is a sort of middle-of-the-road free paper primarilly for the tube in London. It's generally regarded as sh*t. Anyway... they've also had large ads for the album in it and at Stockwell station there's a full-size (five foot tall or so) ad for the album which I pass every day on the way to and from work. The only thing I've seen remotely as adventurous as this is an ad for The Rapture's album (which happened to occupy exactly the same spot). Meanwhile, you see Ghostly spending (what seems to me to be) quite a bit of money on promotion stateside (and here but to a comparitively lesser degree), and it's paid off in terms of journalistic attention, DJ interest and presumably sales judging by the growth of the label. It'll be interesting to see whether or not Amp Fiddler blows up here. He's certainly had some really high profile support so far. Obviously it's hard to compare the two that closely, since the Amp Fiddler stuff will be accessible to a much wider audience, but I'm still interested to see what happens. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) GD Luxxe
I was advised last week to check out their 21st door album, and I immediately remembered why I have a problem with them : the voice is simply to close to Ian Curtis' or Bernard Sumner (depending on the tracks...). Lots of interesting stuff happening on the instrumental side though, so I will give it a closer look... Gwendal
RE: (313) what you listening to right now?
The punky madness is one of Chicks On Speed's latest singles... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:04 PM T o: Carlos de Brito; robin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: ( 313) what you listening to right now? That's a good selection of music - there's some great mixes on that site - would love to get the tracklisting to the loversrock mix (not really lovers' rock - all manner of glitchy techy housey stuff - including Dan Bell and some punky madness called 'We Don't Play Guitars') -Original Message- From: Carlos de Brito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:45 AM To: 'robin'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: AW: (313) what you listening to right now? I'm listening to a henrik schwarz mix at www.moodmusicrecords.com (audio-section, henrik schwarz hot wax at walohreule sunday music sessions), I feel a bit late night this morning:) Mix comes with the following tracklisting: Round Midnight - Sun Ra - ? Think Twice - Detroit Experiment - Ropeadope All Over - 3 Chairs - 3 Chairs Youngblood - War - MCA Records East - Original - Moton Herbie Hancock - Death Wish - Soundtrack Metaboman - Schwoof Sensibel - Musik Krause Cobblestone Jazz- 5th Element EP - itiswhatitis Jeff Mills - Humana - Axis Erykah Badu - Bag Lady Rmx - Bolshevik Moodyman - Live in LA - Peacefrog Santana - Abraxas - CBS Willie Hutch - I can sho give you love - ? Zukunft - LZ 132 - Schweiz c. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 12:36 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: (313) what you listening to right now? ok quiet list. what you listening to right now? me, i'm listening to a Brendan Gillen Ableton Live mixloads of mad old tunes presented in an interesting way...totally wicked... and you? robin... ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
RE: (313) what you listening to right now?
... and Christian Vogel with them on stage for some of their shows. Totally on-topic ;-) Gwendal -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:04 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what you listening to right now? Dave Clarke on the mix I believe... 2/2/04 2:06 PM Cobert, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The punky madness is one of Chicks On Speed's latest singles... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:04 PM T o: Carlos de Brito; robin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: ( 313) what you listening to right now? That's a good selection of music - there's some great mixes on that site - would love to get the tracklisting to the loversrock mix (not really lovers' rock - all manner of glitchy techy housey stuff - including Dan Bell and some punky madness called 'We Don't Play Guitars') -Original Message- From: Carlos de Brito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:45 AM To: 'robin'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: AW: (313) what you listening to right now? I'm listening to a henrik schwarz mix at www.moodmusicrecords.com (audio-section, henrik schwarz hot wax at walohreule sunday music sessions), I feel a bit late night this morning:) Mix comes with the following tracklisting: Round Midnight - Sun Ra - ? Think Twice - Detroit Experiment - Ropeadope All Over - 3 Chairs - 3 Chairs Youngblood - War - MCA Records East - Original - Moton Herbie Hancock - Death Wish - Soundtrack Metaboman - Schwoof Sensibel - Musik Krause Cobblestone Jazz- 5th Element EP - itiswhatitis Jeff Mills - Humana - Axis Erykah Badu - Bag Lady Rmx - Bolshevik Moodyman - Live in LA - Peacefrog Santana - Abraxas - CBS Willie Hutch - I can sho give you love - ? Zukunft - LZ 132 - Schweiz c. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2004 12:36 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: (313) what you listening to right now? ok quiet list. what you listening to right now? me, i'm listening to a Brendan Gillen Ableton Live mixloads of mad old tunes presented in an interesting way...totally wicked... and you? robin... ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
(313) Diana extended
Stumbled upon that album http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=UIDMISS70401291003150968sql=Atqja7i48g75r in the shop, but I don't really trust allmusic.com's advice... any good ? very curious about Diana Ross remixed by Frankie Knuckles... Gwendal
(313) Wolfgang Voigt - Oktoberfest
Just discovered this 1998 EP on Auftrieb ; I find it extremely fun and fresh... especially love the track with the T Rex sample (I was into glma rock before discovering techno...) - anyway : in W Voigt's impressive discography, any recommendations in this Oktoberfest vein ? thanks ! Gwendal
RE: (313) what you listening to right now?
Snow Robots vol 3 ... some nice tracks, but I think I hate GD Luxxe. Gwendal -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313 what you listening to right now? ok quiet list. what you listening to right now? me, i'm listening to a Brendan Gillen Ableton Live mixloads of mad old tunes presented in an interesting way...totally wicked... and you? robin...
RE: (313) what you listening to right now?
Hum.. I remember listening to their album on Suction (Submission), as well as a couple of tracks on comps (woud have to dig those out), and everytime it sounds to me like the worst of electro-clash. Probably the thing that really irritates me is the stupid voice... this being said, hate was too harsh a word, it just annoys me. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 1:06 PM To: Odeluga, Ken; Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313 what you listening to right now? GD Luxxe was rubbish at Sonar last year I thought Interdimensional Transmissions was Ferenc IF's label -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:04 PM To: Cobert, Gwendal; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what you listening to right now? Snow Robots vol 3 ... some nice tracks, but I think I hate GD Luxxe. Gwendal Which GD Luxxe track do you hate and why? (I wuite like an EP of his which came out a couple of years ago but I passed on the LP. Also does anyone know if Interdimensional Transmissions (the label GDL's on) related to Detroit - maybe Keith Tucker and co? Cheers, k ## ### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## ###
RE: Re[2]: (313) what you listening to right now?
really ? how is it ? I really liked their track in the Ladytron Jukebox ! Gwendal now playing Codec Flexor - Tubed CD on Forte Records
RE: Re[4]: (313) what you listening to right now?
Cool... now, where's my shopping list ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: Ivars Mednis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:56 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re[4]: (313) what you listening to right now? yes, it is very solid. you can check realaudio samples on nuloop.com http://www.nuloop.com/Details.php?arti=19015 As far as i know Christian Morgenstern (RIP) was involved in this project, and his Aux Talk Funkativity is one of my favourite techno tracks ever... ixi Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 3:32:57 PM, you wrote: CG really ? how is it ? I really liked their track in the Ladytron Jukebox ! CG Gwendal now playing Codec Flexor - Tubed CD on Forte Records -- Best regards, Ivarsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) what you listening to right now?
From discogs.com, it is The 1st door, right ? ok, will give it a try... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:13 P M To: Cobert, Gwendal Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313 what you listening to right now? you really need to check his album on IT beofre making that statement. On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: Snow Robots vol 3 ... some nice tracks, but I think I hate GD Luxxe. Gwendal -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313 what you listening to right now? ok quiet list. what you listening to right now? me, i'm listening to a Brendan Gillen Ableton Live mixloads of mad old tunes presented in an interesting way...totally wicked... and you? robin...
RE: (313) SONY....................BONY
I think this addresses more those people (I count myself in) who already own a Minidisc and a number of discs. Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:32 PM To: Maxim Sullivan Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) SONYBONY first things to consider... the 45 hours of music is encoded at 48kbs, which is pitiful quality. mp3's at their 'lowest' quality should be 128- so your hours is now down to 15. if 15 hours of music is all you're looking for, than there's much smaller- cheaper- mp3 player out there than either the ipod or the sony. also- i wonder how the music transfer works? it takes about 30 minutes to load 30GB of music onto my ipod via USB2. things to look into before buying. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Maxim Sullivan wrote: And to think I was considering buying an IPOD. This looks much cooler, cheaper, better.and you can replace the battery :-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3378627.stm Max
(313) label primers
I wouldn't mind Phonopsia Katrin Richter telling us a little more about Goya Soundslike, and Freude Am Tanzen, which they mentioned in their posts last week - what releases would you recommend to check out first ? Thanks in advance ! Gwendal
RE: (313) axis
Oh yeah, a small irritating thing about this site : they never say whether the tracks are those from the vinyl EP or the CD version - they used to be quite different, esp with the early releases. Just bitching. Gwendal -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 17:37 To: atomly; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) axis My view is no one is making you buy it, so don't. I've no idea what Jeff's running costs are or what he needs to make back to break even but we went thru this with Peacefrog... Oh and warps bleep is now live: https://www.warprecords.com/bleep 14/1/04 5:00 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Matt Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At the moment, if I press up 800 copies of a release it costs about ?1200 (less in N.America), and on a standard price to distributors (which = about ?5.50 in the stores) it takes about 500 sales to break even. So to double that price and claim it's to cover costs is ridiculous. Whilst the figures for a small independant label are tight as hell, I seriously doubt raising the prices will help - distributors and stores would take an accordingly higher cut, and sales would probably drop a bit as people find their addictions harder and harder to sustain. But the man isn't trying to just break even. You're forgetting about packaging, press, etc. costs, overhead for the label (employees and such) and the fact that Jeff Mills actually wants to make a living off of this. If he sold them for cost, it wouldn't get him anywhere. That's one thing that always struck me as odd. I don't know how many times I've heard people grumble about labels or promoters making money off of music (not to say you were saying this or that Axis is charging any sort of a fair price, this is just a tangent)-- I know I even did as a punk teenager. After throwing shows and releasing records, I think it's absurd to ask people to put that much of their money at risk and to devote that much time and effort to something and only be able to barely break even, otherwise they're a sellout.
RE: (313) warprecords
To me it is a matter of pricing : I don't know how much iTunes charges (how much is it for an Environ EP BTW ?), but on the Warp site tracks are about two times more expensive as I would like them to be. Since you don't have the actual object anymore, it should be normal to have some discount... would it be only because it also costs a lot less to the label. Gwendal -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 13:06 To: 'Tom Churchill'; 'Alex Bond'; '313' Subject: RE: (313) warprecords - I was just wondering why anyone would? - - I mean it's just as easy to download from a peer to peer - right, and it's - free. - - I wondered the same thing when Apple launched their iTunes - Music Store - but - eight months later they've sold 30 million songs. And bear - in mind the - service is only available to Mac users (approx 5% of the - market), and only - in America. So it looks like the market's definitely there... there's a itunes for windows now (to access iTMS) - While we're on the subject - would people on the list pay to - download (for - example) Headspace and Emoticon tracks as high-quality MP3s? - Trying to work - out whether it's worth exploring these alternative forms of - selling music on - such a small scale... i think there will most likely be a market for this when more people have the ability to dj mp3s (either through ableton liveneeds mp3 support, or finalscratch/traktor)...not sure we're at that stage yet? then again you might be tapping into a different market. environ think it's there, you can get their stuff through iTunes Music Service now. be interesting to watch their sales, if that data is available. robin...
RE: (313) warprecords
Totally - they already sell Lex as well, and clearly plan to add more - I guess it will go the same way their Warpmart did... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 13:40 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) warprecords If Warp make a success of it, though, then smaller labels will be able to deal with Warp themselves, having their tracks sold via Warp's infrastructure without paying for it all themselves - that'll be the point, I reckon, at which this whole selling-mp3s deal will come into its own... Brendan
RE: (313) warprecords - was Re: (313) axis
Would be interested to know about what is the best encoder etc... I had heard differently about Lame ??? and regarding Warp, they have a number of very old EPs for EUR2.69 - guess I'll finally be able to get those elusive early EPs... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 18:10 To: Brendan Nelson; 313 Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) warprecords - was Re: (313) axis 14/1/04 4:57 PM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] They seem to be giving out mixed messages on the encoding side of things - in their FAQ it says Bleep MP3s are a minimum of 256kbps, while the majority of MP3s found on the internet are 128kbps. Yet they seem to contradict that in the technical queries bit. Personally I don't think they should have used VBR, but will reserve judgement until I've downloaded and listened to a couple of tracks from their site... Yep, I'm going to check a few out - LAME is a pretty poor encoder, there's a reason it's free! And just say no to VBR... Martin
RE: (313) axis
and there's a series of albums, both classic and recent ones, sold in pack of two or four on the website... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 18:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) axis Us Yanks better take advantage of Warp's 7-quid-per-album MP3 deal now; just to let you all know if you're interested, theres a warp back catalogue cd campaign going on in the UK at the minute. I think all the CD's are 8.99 (maybe a little cheaper) you can get them at www.piccadillyrecords.com, and also www.boomkat.com, I guess at warp too. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) A complete Detroit Techno collection
Mesopotamia - The B-52s I think I need some explanations on this one... ??? Gwendal
RE: (313) I'll see you Luke Slater mate!
I don't agree... Wireless was very good IMHO, with All exhale being an absolutely amazing electroclash (or whatever) single. Alright on top wasn't absolutely excellent, but I love the singer's voice (used to be the singer with The Aloof, a perfect example of underrated act...), so I found this album very enjoyable... Haven't checked the new stuff yet though, and I agree these latest records find him straying far from his Detroit-inspired sound of the Pacefrog years... Gwendal -Original Message- From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12 , 2004 5:15 PM To: 'Maxim Sullivan'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313 I'll see you Luke Slater mate! Indeed, but this sh*t phase has lasted for about a 1/2 a decade now. -Original Message- From: Maxim Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2004 4:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) I'll see you Luke Slater mate! Does any one here know who put what into Luke Slater's water recently? I heard his new EP this morning on Novamute and its quite possible one of the most horrible things I've ever heard. Electroclash gabba and I made sure it was on 33!! I am Disappointed as the man has created some of the finest techno moments for me in the past!! Max NP: DKD - Natty Head. : Future Rage LP ** * Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not listed on the To or Cc lines of the original email (or are not the person responsible for delivering to an intended recipient), then you are not an intended recipient and have received this email in error. Any use by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on +44 (0)20 7337 8300 or via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], attaching this message. Please then delete this email and all attachments, and destroy any copies thereof. Thank you. ** *
(313) Scanner
Not perfectly on-topic, but does anybody know how many artists are going by the name of Scanner ? Discogs lists two, the famous experimental/ambient guy, and Terrence Fixmer ; any other ? Gwendal
