Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to lose out, I think Detroit would go under
I just want to ask the question -- do you think the banks that were bailed out made better business decisions than the Big 3 over the last decade? -d On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM, theREAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, but I don't have to. I worked there for 31 years - 28 of it right down > on the assembly line. I know enough to say with authority that nobody made > that kind of cash unless he or she worked some hefty overtime hours. On the > 40 hours that I got most of the time, I pulled in right around 40k a year. > Anyone who says anything else (and as I retied an International UAW-GM rep, > I have some knowledge here) about the average guy on the line doing a normal > work week is full of BS. I've read many an article which inflated our wages, > our benefits, our time off, and what we made while laid off which spun some > pretty tall tales. > I'm not saying it wasn't a good paying job with excellent benefits. I'm > saying don't believe everything you read about a job most people simply > would not do (I'm talking the assembly line here). It can be an a$$kickingly > hard place to work, and the jobs which aren't are few and far between these > days. > > >jeff >> >> Anyone remeber the article in the Free Press about the janitor at GM >> making 60 or 70k a year when he retired? >> > > -- - Dan Sicko Editor, Moodmat www.moodmat.com
Re: (313) C2 Does Bowie
>From what I hear, it's essentially the Detroit band Zoos of Berlin doing the cover (they've been recording in Carl's studio), and then Carl did a mix/edit/something-or-other on it. Can't wait to hear it either way. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a cool new Bowie tribute Life Beyond Mars on Rapster. Apparently > Carl Craig has contributed, as with Kelley Polar and Matthew Dear. You can > hear audiofiles on Rapster's website (rapsterrecords.com?) I don't have a > track list but it's probably online! This comp is from the same team behind > Exit Music, the Radiohead tribute. > - Dan Sicko Editor, Moodmat www.moodmat.com
Re: (313) festival comments, photos, etc. .. ie, LONG.
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Todd Sines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS. if you're on Facebook, Ed Luna has some photos of the loft party as well > - maybe I'll be able to share them on Flickr soon. I heard Ed came out for that! Haven't seen the man in ages. Aside from taking pictures of the "branded entertainment" that was the Paxahau dancers, we also managed to cobble a wrap-up together: http://www.moodmat.com/?p=892 Sounds like maybe there were more familiar names/faces about than I realized — I'll have to do a better job of connecting next year. -d -- - Dan Sicko Editor, Moodmat www.moodmat.com
Re: (313) 313 Shirts in Detroit / loft party
Seconded. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Michael Kuszynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > its a pretty sweet shirt. even my nontechno girlfriend liked it. -- ----- Dan Sicko Editor, Moodmat www.moodmat.com
(313) urb
well, I still like it anyway ... :P http://www.urb.com/online/bsides.shtml -d
(313) shrinking cities music
My schedule wouldn't allow me to participate in this portion of the Shrinking Cities program/exhibit, but am I ever kicking myself! Check out the line-up: Shrinking Cities Music /// Palast der Republik, Schlossplatz, 10187 Berlin In the framework of the project "Volkspalast" (Aug. 20 - Nov. 9, 2004). In cooperation with the WMF, supported by the British Council, Berlin. Music concept: Alexandra Dröner, Johanna Grabsch, Katrin Hallenberger; Theory/Film Lounge concept: Doreen Mende, Philipp Oswalt; Production manager: Andreas Sachwitz. In shrinking cities like Detroit (USA), Manchester, Liverpool, Sheffield (UK), and Izhevsk (RUS), significant music cultures (Punk, House, Hip-Hop, Techno, and Electro) arose precisely in the times of urban crisis. They have sometimes had a significant influence on the cities' development. Shrinking Cities Music acoustically and theoretically addresses the question how music production developed and established itself in shrinking cities. Are shrinking cities especially productive sites for music? How is the city reflected and thematized in music production? Shrinking Cities Music comprises discussion groups, live performances, and parties. Program /// Th, Sept. 23, 7-10 p.m. Panel 1 /// "Appropriating the City in the Post-Socialist Upheaval" (Ger.) With Steffen Kache (Distillery, Leipzig), Ralf Donis (Ilses Erika, Leipzig), Oleg Bogdanov (Light Music, St. Petersburg). Moderation: Jörg Augsburg (POP UP, Leipzig). Panel 2 /// "Reinventing the City through Music" (Eng.) With Dave Haslam (DJ and author, Manchester), Drew Hemment (Future Sonic, Manchester), Jayne Casey (afoundation, Liverpool), Klaus Overmeyer (landscape architect, Berlin). Moderation: Philipp Oswalt (architect/journalist, Berlin). Film Lounge /// "Made in Sheffield", Director: Eve Wood, USA 2004 "Strange Früt", Detroit Culture Part 1, Rock Apocrypha, Destroy all Monsters USA 1998 and other films, all orig. vers. Th, Sept. 23, from 10 p.m. Music /// Messer für Frau Müller Live PA! (What's So Funny About, Solnze Rec. / St. Petersburg), Errors Live PA! (Glasgow), Freeform Live PA! (Warp, Nonplace / Brighton), Dave Haslam (Haçienda / Manchester), triPhaze + Rev. Benn Schipper (Privatelektro / Leipzig), Oleg Kostrov (Messer für Frau Müller / St. Petersburg) Fr, Sept. 24, from 10 p.m. Music /// Clueso Live PA! (Four Music / Erfurt), Tim Wright Live PA! (Novamute / Glasgow), 808 State DJ-Team (Circus Rec. / Manchester), EU/2h Company (Chebu Rec. / St. Petersburg), Rec de Weirl (Lanetic / Leipzig), Miss Mira (Lanetic / Leipzig) Sa, Sept. 25, 4-9 p.m. Panel 1 /// "The City as Originator (Independent Mainstream)" (Eng.) With Jeff Mills (DJ, Detroit/Berlin), Dimitri Hegemann (Tresor, Berlin), Thomas Meinecke (journalist/musician, Eurasburg). Moderation: Alexis Waltz (cultural researcher, Berlin). Panel 2 /// "Black Brand? (Image of HipHop + Techno)" (Eng.) With Nelson George (culture critic, New York), John Akomfrah (filmmaker/ film theoretician, London, queried), Diedrich Diederichsen (pop theoretician, Berlin). Moderation: Markus Müller (author/curator, Münster). Film lounge /// "Modulations", Director: Iara Lee, USA 2003 "The Last Angel of History", Director: John Akomfrah, Black Audio Film Collective GB/D 1995 Sa, Sept. 25, from 10 p.m. Music /// Richard H. Kirk Live PA! (Cabaret Voltaire, Mute / Sheffield), FSK Live PA! (Disko B / FFM) feat: "First Take Than Shake" remixed by Anthony 'Shake' Shakir (Detroit) Derrick May (Transmat / Detroit) TBC!, Dex (Underground Resistance, Detroit), Franki Juncaj (Motech / Detroit) AN 2 (Was Not Was, Izhevsk/St. Petersburg), Lowtec (Playhouse, r.a.n.d. Muzik, Leipzig) Admission /// to lectures/discussion/film lounge: 5 € per day Admission to the music program (from 10 p.m.): Th: 8 €, Fr: 10 €, Sa: 12 € Advance ticket sales: Ticket Office HAU 2 daily Noon-19 p.m., Tel. 25 90 04 27, or Ticket Office Palast der Republik, Schlossplatz, daily 3-6 p.m., Tel. 030-20 91 46 80, and at all ticket outlets.
(313) re: serious question/copenhagen
"Copenhageners"
(313) white girls
All I know is that there is a Dirtbombs song called "I'm through with White Girls" -d On Jun 8, 2004, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were several people wearing them during the fest, andf it was even funnier depending on who had them on. My favorite was an old white couple holding hands cruising around. I guess the joke may be a cultural thing.
(313) Re: the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
Just wanted to add one: Tim Wright - "Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix)" heard this twice at Green Light Go! (Once at Agave and once at Push) and the next night as soon as I walked into Oslo. -d
(313) tristan fan club redux
Who was asking for a picture of him passed out? http://homepage.mac.com/seekoh/techno/PhotoAlbum62.html enjoy. -d
(313) festival notes
I had an amazing weekend once again -- could be the best yet. Best highlight was walking out of Cannonball and hearing about the loft party at the Cary building. Wow. We missed Jeff Samuel but got to see John Stoll and Miguel (also the organizers of Green Light Go this year and last) spin, Benji B, Ayro and a bit of John Arnold. Ayro was also sneaking up alongside most of the DJs and programming beats to match their sets. Got to see Aardvarck and All out K on Monday (I really enjoyed Aardvarck's eclectic selection combined with well-polished hip-hop timing), but no Timeline. There's really no excuse for it. I could ask Mike if they'll do a "For Those Who Have Kids" matinee or maybe a lunchhour "For Those Who Have to Work the Next Day," but I don't think it will get me very far. I'm glad so many people got over there to see it and enjoy it though. I have enough fond memories from the weekend that I won't be grumbling about FTWK 3. I *still* grumble about Model 500 in 1996, but then no one told me about that show. -d
(313) "hyperreal"
Thanks for that rundown Fred ... I think Brian Behlendorf told me it was indeed that Shamen tune that inspired the name. -d
(313) ken collier
Ha ... that's scanned from Techno Rebels. The photo should be credited to Todd Johnson, who has one of the best memories and archives from this era. -d On Feb 16, 2004, at 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that theres a picture of him on the deephousepage - http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi over a downloadable film. dont know as I've not watched the film, but maybe the film has some ken collier bits?
(313) detroit rock album covers
Hey all, Anyone (local or otherwise) with copies of the White Stripes "Hotel Yorba" single or the compilation "The Sympathetic Sounds of Detroit," contact me off-list. I'm looking for scans of the covers if possible. Thanks, -d
(313) re: Question Time
Used to be minidisc, now it's either straight to laptop or iPod with the Belkin iPod recorder thing. Oops, that's one less for the site, Martin. :) -d On Feb 13, 2004, at 6:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ask dan whether he uses regular cassette, mini-cassette or mini-disc to record his interviews =P i love when interviews interview other interviewers. i should interview martin next ;)
Re: (313) tresor meets apple
you got it. over coffee (not pepsi, I'm not that much of an Apple shill). :P -d On Feb 10, 2004, at 8:34 AM, jonathan morse wrote: checking the iTMS the first thing you do every tuesday as well? =)
(313) tresor meets apple
Looks like their catalog has begun to make it onto the Apple Music Store! -d
(313) re: Saunderson/Disney
On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was watching Pixel Perfect today (a new made for tv movie on the disney channel), and I heard Saunderson's "Forcefield" (i think it was Forcefield) about 2/3 of the way through it, uncredited. I'm guessing because these songs are produced by independent labels it happens often? Yep. I remember hearing Metro Area's "Piña" in a Volvo radio commercial back in 2002. Pretty sure MG hasn't gotten anywhere chasing that one down. -d
(313) Re: Soulseek for Mac
I believe it's listed as a "pre-alpha" version. I wouldn't expect much out of it. -d On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well i d/l the soulseekX and i must say it was very easy to install, but, it has some flaws in it. *i can not browse others users files *the chat room text jumps from bottom to top and the screan blinks (annoying) *the /me commands do not show up *i can not find where to sellect my shares *you can not make a friends list
(313) Re: Garage Band (OT)
What, the Belkin thing? Works great for interviews and voice memos. If there is distortion, it hasn't affected its usefulness for these purposes. -d On Jan 7, 2004, at 6:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's complete crap. Don't waste your $ or time. Distorts horribly, mono only.
Re: (313) Searchable Archives
I never said I resolved the issue! -d On Jan 6, 2004, at 10:09 AM, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote: Do you not require peoples permission to publish their email address' in a public place?
(313) Searchable Archives
On Jan 6, 2004, at 8:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this has been asked before, but is there a searchable archive for the 313 list? If not, is anyone working on getting one going? Or does there need to be someone to get it going (I can help)? I've been toying with it. Right now the easiest and fastest solution would be to unzip the gzips and convert them to PDFs, which are searchable through Google. Of course the issue that raises is exposing everyone's email addresses to spammers. There's the old "name AT service DOT com" replacement, but I'm still chewing on that one. -d
(313) Re: (bass) Fwd: (313) Santonio Echols
No, Santonio's a real person -- and yes, that picture was from my site (that blog is couched inside www.techno-rebels.com). :) I believe he also had a brother, Antonio, who DJed or did some production as well. -d On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 10:08 AM, Matt MacQueen wrote: I regard as well informed who swear KMS and Santonio are/were one and the same person
(313) Brett Carson
Anyone have a current contact for Mr. Carson? If so, hit me back privately. Thanks much. -d
(313) Re: Ayro (313 Digest 22 Oct 2003 17:16:58 -0000 Issue 1821)
Wow ... I love both albums! Even though Ayro's album is danceable, I'll agree that it's a tough one if you want to spin it out and throw it in a mix. It is very much Jeremy singing and playing his heart out ... John isn't crafting songs exactly the same way, but still manages to find its place in the front of DJ crates. Similar styles, very different approaches and aims IMHO. -d p.s. I especially like how the Ayro album (at least on CD ... don't have the vinyl yet) is seamless. The beats transmogrify from one track to the next. Not a mix, something different... On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: john arnold album that is just simply light years ahead of it
(313) Re: Outkast/She Lives in my Lap
Otherwise known as "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker." :) Okay, maybe not a clone, but I think Prince influenced Andre just a wee bit. -d On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She lives in my Lap is my favorite track off of it right now. Not necessarily my favorite completely but for right now.
(313) Re: 313 Digest 11 Aug 2003 00:48:05 -0000 Issue 1736
Er, Matt, I think we might have played it on your show. :) I love it ... basically a really tight May edit with lots of percussion and some back edits. I think he adds some of his own keys towards the end -- wish there could have been more. -d On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 08:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The Greatest Love of All" -- have never heard it though, I think Dan Sicko might have a copy?
(313) entrenched standards
if BMG's (+ Godfather halfway through) set during the Movement weekend was any indication of the possibilities, I'm not going to care what's behind the barrier between DJ and audience. It all still comes down to selection, doesn't it? -d On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 07:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BMG's use of Ableton would be much more interesting
(313) mesopotamia
don't you mean Athens, Georgia? On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection.
(313) Re: Come In 'Techno'
On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 10:50 AM, spw wrote: I would like to see Detroit techno go back that says it all.
(313) 7th City
nah ... we were there until at least 3:30 or 3:45. It was shut down by 4:00 though. On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 02:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This party got busted by the time we got there @ 2:30 am or so.
(313) the name game
was that you that introduced blacktronica then? that was a nice touch. On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brothas gonna work it out! stay tuned to a new frequency badi
Re: (313) juan atkins?
He's got his studio pretty much together out in L.A. now. Recently contributed "Something About the Music" to the OM 100 compilation, and is still running Metroplex, DJing etc., etc. -d On Friday, May 16, 2003, at 08:50 PM, Rc wrote: haven't heard anything about juan for ages - does anyone know what he's up to these days? rc
Re: (313) T-1000, Woody McBride - Tonite in Louisville $10
On Friday, May 16, 2003, at 01:46 PM, Adam Jay wrote: Lou Rawls > Project 7 > Louisville "You'll never find ... another DJ like this ..." :P
Re: (313) Best Drexciya
Oh, we're talking tracks now ... I meant "Grava 4" was their best album IMHO. My favorite track is still "Depressurization" off their first EP on Shockwave. -d On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 02:23 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: "Pryor, Ryan N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pinpointing my favorite Drexciya track/release is impossible. That's like deciding which of your children you love the most. However, I can narrow it down good choices. here's mine: 1. Under Sea Disturbances (Harnessed the Storm) 2. Journey Home (Journey Home EP) 3. Organic Hydropoly Spores (Neptune's Lair) 4. Lonely Journey of the Comet Bopp (Shifted Phases) 5. Eye Contact (Other People Place LP) 6. Denki No Zuno (Dopplereffekt) tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Movement Sponsors
oh please. I bet Ford plopped down a LOT more money than all of this year's sponsors combined. -d On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 01:26 PM, Sylvia wrote: Clear Channel, Direct TV, General Motors & a private investment group take combined $250 million stake in XM satellite radio (1999) Learn more at http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/press_release_1999_06_08.html another one http://www.digitalaudioguide.com/features/satellite_radio.htm And they still want me to believe that artists who will play at the festival cannot be paid because no sponsor has been seriously take a commitment??? Calling all propaganders around, now you really really must have a deep think about where you are going to...with that...
Re: (313) Lab Rat XL (Was : New Drexciya album out!)
Wow ... I believe this is possibly their *best* release! On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 12:13 PM, Roland van Oorschot wrote: the Grava 4 album on Clone is (IMHO) the weakest Drexciya release.
Re: (313) Every Dog 4
oh, it's more than favoritism -- it's a conspiracy! DJ Fox Mulder On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 10:41 AM, spw wrote: It is my observation there is favoritism towards song based format techno over track based techno form regular mailing list contributors. This would explain the interest in pop music, deep house, pre-techno retro music and a dislike of techno genres such as Swedish techno.
(313) bone
If DJ Bone is on the list, email me privately. or if anyone simply has his email address ... thanks! d
Re: (313) New Movement artists
Timespace ... yes, the same artist(s) that played the first festival. At the time, the lineup was: Aril Brikha, Tony Drake and Jeremy Ellis! (I'm probably forgetting someone). I've seen them play with Neil Ollivierra on drums too! Awesome sets. -d On Friday, May 9, 2003, at 08:56 AM, Klaas Jan Jongsma wrote: We noticed that there are some new artists on the DEMF line-up today, also saw an artist called Timespace, anyone know who that is? Any connection to the Transmat Time:space compilation maybe :)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Apple music sales
yep ... got the ABC "Zillionaire" album I had on vinyl in college and sold back for groceries or beer money. :P still waiting to see the electronic selections pick up though. On Saturday, May 3, 2003, at 03:37 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyone using it?
Re: (313) Yes I Am An Antsie MoFo!!!
not yet ... least not on the site. anyone at the press conference? -d On Friday, May 2, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Phonopsia wrote: Lineup lineup lineup!!! I've already had to sit through 9 hours at work waiting for this, 5-8 hours more than you bastards in the states. Let loose whatchoo know! :) OK, I'm being a precocious f*ck. ;) At least I'm not in oz. :) Any news at all? Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) electro house is taking over (maybe not just in OZ)
This is the only decent use of labels IMHO ... On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 09:59 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Realistically, practically, if you look at the way music is organised in record stores
Re: (313) SOMEONE SHOULD, HINT - DAN SICKO :)
On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Martin wrote: all the Techno recorded material from start to present day I've already started ... the problem is new records keep coming out every day, so I'm not likely to finish anytime soon. :P -d
Re: (313) plastikman font
one more item on this: http://www.fontshop.com/virtual/FSSF/products/fuse04.htm On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 07:57 PM, Dan Sicko wrote: The font is called "(F) Uck N' Pretty," designed by Chicago's Rick Valicenti. It was part of the Fuse 4 collection of conceptual fonts. -d
Re: (313) plastikman font
The font is called "(F) Uck N' Pretty," designed by Chicago's Rick Valicenti. It was part of the Fuse 4 collection of conceptual fonts. -d On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 06:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prolly someone from Prince's company, since it looks so much like the 1999 cover.. which was 1983, just so everyone can groan about their age. - Original Message - From: "[-[-]-[]-[|]-]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: (313) plastikman font this font is widely available on the internet last time I checked. I hope whoever created it is getting paid
Re: (313) spotters Q
I'm pretty sure the first pressing is white with black writing and Alan's art. Some of these had one of Alan's "Johnny Gambit" comics packed with them as well. -d On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 06:57 AM, Stuart Thomas wrote: Where was it pressed??? I think the original pressings were done at archers & the later one's at nsc. I may be wrong but that's what I thought... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 April 2003 11:54 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) spotters Q I have a trainspotters Q. I'm just listing some records for ebay as I'm skint and I have a spare copy of Nude Photo - what I think is the first pressing. It has an orange label, with black writing and credits T.Barnett, D.Wynn, J.Atkins and D.May. Is this the first pressing, does anyone know? Any help appreciated. Thanks, Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, print or rely on this e-mail. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525. The registered office of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH. All partners in PricewaterhouseCoopers UK Associates A are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com ___ _ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs: http://www.star.net.uk
Re: (313) nu era/nubian mindz
His track "Burning" on the Scattered Snares compilation knocked me on my @ss ... the whole compilation is really intense, but that one's my favorite. -d On Sunday, April 20, 2003, at 06:44 PM, marsel wrote: nubian mindz is mr colin lindo aka alpha omega
Re: (313) More great rumors I heard
They're playing on 4 separate stages simultaneously ... all solo material, like the KISS solo albums from 1978. On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 12:57 PM, Klaas Jan Jongsma wrote: What! No rumours on Kraftwerk so disappointed now
Re: (313) UR
I think that was his dad, not Mike himself. -d On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 07:53 PM, Wes wrote: It's also worth remembering that Mike Banks (like K. Larkin, S. Stoll, J. Hendrix) is an ex-armed services man
Re: (313) test
> In my opinion the elitist politics like on the 313 list are counter > productive in generating a > more wide scale interest in > techno music. > For example, just by observing record store stock list that I'm subscribed to > (I do not have > accesses to distributor > stock list like many people here) I noticed there are a lot of 313 music from > labels that do not > get discussed here or posted for review by the mailing list administrator. Well, discuss it then! You don't have to wait for an admin to bring it up --- why should you? Keeping this information to yourself smacks of elitism in my book. -d
Re: (313) what happened to Detroit
I could be wrong, but I thought from the context that Ken meant "these
days"
?
On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 04:21 PM, Matthew MacQueen wrote:
It has to be said on the whole also that America is not
the major place for underground movements of any kind.
Avant-garde music ('cause that's what we're talking
about) included.
WHAT !?!? :)The Birth of Jazz wasn't an Avant-garde movement in
America? In the 50s and 60s in the Bebop era it was not widely
accepted by the general public either, it was considered threatening
and frightening to most Americans. I consider that an underground
movement.
Re: (313) artists vs. bootlegging
On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 08:22 AM, RAW2019 wrote: but because his recordcompany didn't find it in prince's [read: sony's] you mean Warner's?
Re: (313) 808 State - Outpost Transmission
I really dug it. Of course I'm a fan (I sort of rediscovered them whilst writing the book) It's not quite as ornate as Don Solaris, but not too far off the mark. -d On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 02:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was there talk about this a while back? It's just been released in the US - how is it? MEK
Re: (313) Re:COBBLESTONE JAZZ (was) Some MUTEK news
BTW, has anyone seen this one in US stores, preferably online? Been looking for it ever since I heard "The 5th Element" on Dan Bell's new mix ... Much obliged. -d On Friday, April 4, 2003, at 04:42 PM, fabrice Lig wrote: COBBLESTONE Jazz, on Itiswhatitis, is one of the best deep techno release from the last few moth...I love that Deep, deep, deep !!!
Re: (313) festival sites
Yes we have ... but obviously there are still a lot of confused people out there. If we had the other URL (it appears there isn't one at all), we'd have an easy way of sending people to the right (or wrong if you prefer) places. -d On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 11:14 AM, Mark S. Krüx wrote: Thems the facts. Haven't we beaten this dead horse more than enough already?
(313) festival sites
OK, Now that demf.com does redirect to movementfestival.com, Where is the "official" DEMF (Inc.) site? I'm curious ... It would help sort things out for people outside this list or people reading the local papers. -d
Re: (313) Monobox / Cabanne (fwd)
It's amazingly good. That "1-2-3 No Gravity" track opens it up perfectly ... whenever I hear the opening chords I *have* to listen to the rest of the mix. One of my all-time favorites to be sure. On Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 06:41 AM, robin pinning wrote: is the dan bell mix any good? (i know daft question i suppose but we're slow on traffic :) )
Re: (313) A triumph for electronic music!
Congrats to Morgan and Darshan ... How'd those two Ritz crackers get mixed in with all that CHEESE? -d On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Minto George wrote: > 03/20/03: HELL FREEZES OVER! > Metro Area wins "Best New Artist Album" at The > American Dance Awards. > > http://www.dancestar.com/ > > congrats to morgan and darshan for this outstanding > achievement! > > if your in miami tonight...they are playing LIVE with > strings @ Sagamore Hotel > > minto > > = > down low music http://downlowmusic.org > UPCOMING 2003: > dL ltd tribute 12" dLpgccX > Polarius "Jams from the funk dump" dL009 > Dan Curtin "distort.archive.desire" dL010 > The Connection Machine "Painless" dLCMLP1 > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com >
Re: (313) techno tunes that do it
Even though we've done this at least twice recently, it's always fun to read these ... I'll forgo the usual staples and just mention how much I love Deepart's "Picture #1" ... that sends chills every time! -d On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 06:40 AM, ionizer wrote: Model 500 - Vessels in Distress Reel By Reel - Surkit Black Dog - Jauqq by Close Up Over (off Bytes) UR - Journey Of The Dragons Maurizio - M4/M4.5 Elecktroids - Mystery World
Re: (313) Surgeon - How good is he?
> I'm thinking of going to hear Surgeon DJ this w/e & was wondering what > peoples general opinion of him is. Second opinion on your Surgeon? sorry, couldn't resist. :) Haven't heard him spin, but his material is always interesting. -d
Re: (313) OT:Detroit SCI FI
no no ... "New Detroit." As if we should give up and start over from scratch. :) -d On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:53 PM, logic7 wrote: RoboCop was set in Detroit.
Re: (313) playlists and conversations
They played the other night with The Strokes and the The Hives. On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 05:55 AM, Brendan Nelson wrote: Who are the bores? Can you name names?
Re: (313) Re: techno
yecch ... this is one person entering that information. As awesome and detailed as the Sonic Groove database is, it's still subject to opinion. If Aril Brikha ain't techno, I don't know what is. -d On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:31 PM, spw wrote: (description from the SG database: "slammin tech-house masterpiece!!!")
Re: (313) Re: techno
And what's with all these bizarre empirical statements? By "people," do you mean "you?" I'm sure the list is well aware that the popular definition of "techno" is somewhat different than what's discussed here on any given day. I'd even wager it's *why* they're subscribed to this list. -d On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:14 AM, spw wrote: people obviously distinguish the techno genre from other electronic music genres discussed on the 313 list and they associate the techno name with certain artist like Ben Sims, Surgen, DJ Rush, Robert Hood (M-Plant)
Re: (313) Re: techno
So techno is what the market decides it is? DJ Adam Smith, take a bow. p.s. those stock lists and mailing lists (like this one) are all personal opinions -- where are the hard facts? On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 03:14 AM, spw wrote: Subscribe to the Hardwax and Sonic Groove mailing stock list and read how they describe the records.
Re: (313) Re: techno
the latter. On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 07:22 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: alright, im somewhat confused. who is not able to see past the decades old tracks? the artists themselves from detroit, or the people who claim that detroit techno is dying? i can see the latter argument, but not the former. tom
Re: (313) Re: techno
On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 05:48 PM, spw wrote: That doesn't equate to techno. Let's just agree to disagree. I've said the word means something different to every person you might ask, and that's obviously the case here. Detroit techno is like an endangered species with a dwindling population. Only because the species refuses to evolve, or rather, those interested fail to see where evolution has occurred. Why can't people see past tracks (however brilliant and groundbreaking) that were made decades ago? -d
Re: (313) [313] quick sample id.
I believe so! On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:50 PM, Lee Herrington IV wrote: hi folks. quick sample id.. i think i might know this one. eddie fowlkes, "time to express"... is that train whistle sound at the beginning from telex's "moscow disko"? oh, and techno is... onhcet spelled backwards... thimk about it. :-P cheers, lrh
Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
I wouldn't ... Aside from a few very nice cuts, the rest sounded too much like a demo tape to me. I appreciate where they're headed -- I just don't think they're there yet. -d On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 06:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would add blaktronics to this list Original Message: ----- From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:24:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant) How about the Emoticon folks, Delsin, Digital Soul? (to name but a few) There are lots of artists and labels that are creating wonderful evolutions of Detroit techno. On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:04 AM, spw wrote: you dont hear much about making techno for the 21'st Century. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
How about the Emoticon folks, Delsin, Digital Soul? (to name but a few) There are lots of artists and labels that are creating wonderful evolutions of Detroit techno. On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:04 AM, spw wrote: you dont hear much about making techno for the 21'st Century.
Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
Sorry for replying to my own post, but I had this thought: If we could just supply decks and a mixer with each "loop" record :P That being said, if you are, or aspire to be a DJ, those tracks make a lot more sense and can be quite enjoyable.
Re: (313) transmat v drumcode deathmatch
And I thought it was Laurie Anderson. Too funny. On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 11:40 AM, Robert Taylor wrote: "Talking about music, is like dancing about architecture." -Robyn Hitchcock I thought it was Frank Zappa?
Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
Because it's far less interesting to listen to, IMHO. The thing with Detroit techno was that you could enjoy it at the club *and* on your own terms. I can't say the same for your so-called "DJ Tools." That being said, if you are, or aspire to be a DJ, those tracks make a lot more sense and can be quite enjoyable. -d On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:04 AM, spw wrote: How is Drumcode really that different than Mayday, Wiggin (one of the first techno records) or Nude Photo?
Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant)
that all depends on your definition of "Detroit techno," now doesn't it? On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 09:04 AM, spw wrote: still creating "Detroit techno"
Re: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
oops, somebody just mentioned that one. Definitely go for the "Deep Into The Cut" album as well -- the title says it all, dunnit? -d On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Dan Sicko wrote: How about the "Wizard" Mix of Code Assault's "Action!" on Technika ... that one doesn't come up too often. -d
Re: (313) Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin'
How about the "Wizard" Mix of Code Assault's "Action!" on Technika ... that one doesn't come up too often. -d
(313) DEMF (R)
So we can have Tommy the Hitman and "Marvelous" Marvin? -d (waiting for the "Real Deal") On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Anyway, with all respect, what the hell has a boxer got to do with techno?
Re: (313) the risks of datareduced music
what about all those years listening to cassettes? :) -d On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 10:12 AM, Fabrizio Nahum wrote: Hi gang, i think this can be of interest to most of you - it is an article that explains the neuroacustic damage one (potentially?) suffers form listening to datareduced music ie. mp3 and other digital audio her is the link: http://www.informatik.fh-hamburg.de/~windle_c/Logologie/MP3-Gefahr/ MP3-risk. html have a nice weekend, fab
Re: (313) classic sh!t at submerge! hot damn!
these are 2 of 4 cuts from Larkin's 2nd Plus release ... good stuff! -d On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 09:27 PM, J. T. wrote: Kenny Larkin - Integration / Metropolis (1991) Champion Records
Re: (313) Re:(313) Sub Club
Hah ... good call! Paris the Black Fu is a chef, BTW --- hence "Sandwiches" and "Big Onion" :) On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 06:02 PM, Mark S. Krüx wrote: It certainly is, and list member Graeme Kerr played an excellent set there last nigh by all accounts- three cheers for him! Isn't he the Galloping Gourmet?!?! ;-PP m*
Re: (313) Re: Maestro and 313 doco/dvd's..
this is the documentary being sold at the museum, right? -d On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 07:03 AM, Roberto Ty wrote: MAESTRO is an excellent documentary. 313 relevance - it features an interview with Derrick May!. It is the only film that I have seen that features footage of the paradise garage, the loft and Larry levan on the dance floor.It would be great to see this on DVD, I can recommend
Re: (313) Mayday / DEMF / Memorial
hah ... what makes you think Mayday & Co are more likely to snag CC as a sponsor than Pop Culture? -d On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 03:32 PM, xx xx wrote: Betting for the sponsors: Clear channel ?
Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit
Curators were both from the Museum, and yes, the space was allotted over a year ago I believe. Don't know what the budget was, but things turned out about how I expected -- they did a *good* job. -d On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 06:46 AM, diana potts wrote: Hmmm...who were the curators? was it someone from the museum,an outside source or both? Sometimes with museums-if it's a permanent or time slotted display they will/can give only so much floor space.
Re: (313) The Drive Home
Contractual entanglements with Pop Culture Media. Perhaps recent events will loosen things up a bit -d On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 12:06 AM, mkb wrote: www.thedrivehome.net has had "Film slated for completion in May 2001" for quite some time. Does anyone know what happened to this? It doesn't show up on IMDb.
Re: (313) Detroit Historical Exhibit
I went opening night and couldn't hear anything ... there wasn't *any* music? I'm definitely surprised at that one. I assumed that the video clips would switch out and some of the buttons triggered more than just interviews? As for club culture ... that wouldn't exactly be our gift to the world, now would it? I think club/rave culture would have crowded more essential information out IMHO, especially considering most of the history covered in the exhibit is pre-rave (at least in Detroit). -d On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 11:21 PM, kenneth taylor wrote: examination of club culture?
Re: (313) Mayday (or Labor Day)
May 24, 25 and 26th last full weekend in May is the rule? -d On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 12:17 PM, scotto wrote: usually it's the last weekend of may. which would make it. fri may 30 - mon june 2 scotto lansing, mi. - Original Message - From: "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "- BT -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: RE: (313) Mayday (or Labor Day) I think may 26, 27, 28 -Joe - Original Message - From: "- BT -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: Fwd: RE: (313) Mayday (or Labor Day) I waa going to make my first trip to Tha D for last years but didnt manage it - I recon this year Tha D wont be so lucky and I will make it:-) Can someone tell a poor Scotsman when Memorial day is exactly so I can start to look for flights. Cheers BT Who knows that over the next few weeks he is spoilt for detroit artists in Glasgow (props to Mr T Churchill for getting Dan Bell to come to town!!). well. it's been an interesting morning to say the least. hopefully people are going to realize that the pressure is going to be on to out perform the past few festivals. there's alot i want to say to the new people, but that's for the arena of private conversation, and not a public forum. i hope it does well. i'm behind the new guys all the way in hopes that they will bring back not only the quality of the first festival, but the electricity each and every night held. and if i'm asked to be a part of the freakout setup team/artist co-ordination, then i'd be honored to do so. hell, i'd even DJ ;P... i hope derrick and whomever is in charge provides the festival with not only a good balance of new (*cough*craig gonzalez/matt dear*cough*) and old(*sneeze*shakeandclaudeyoung) detroit people, but artists also taking it to new territories. maybe bringing some really way out stuff like Taylor Deupree or Kim Cascone. some Jan Jelinek, Telefon Tel Aviv or Metro Area. there's plenty of exciting, quality new music out there that Detroit audiences have yet to be exposed to. i hope they have the wide angle lens on to include alot of different styles, rather than just banging it out. i hope the visuals are tastefully done and not over saturated with unecessary loops of inappropriate commercials during an artistic performance (in between performances is okay, if you really HAVE to.). i also hope the main thoroughfare doesn't become a noisef_k of bass from stacks in every tent. there HAS to be some sort of limitations on that. there are many many other things i'd like to see happen, but i'm happy with the outcome and i sincerely hope that they buckle up, shut up, put their heads down, work their tails off and present a festival unlike anything detroit's seen yet. and now back to "metal box" by Public Image rt _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
(313) roostertails, boxers and techno
http://www.freep.com/entertainment/newsandreviews/techno18_20030118.htm Interesting bit: >Marvin also announced that she has partnered with Detroit boxer Thomas Hearns to >form a company called DEMF Inc. to produce the festival and open a nightclub. I was wondering what "Hitman" was doing there. I'm waiting for the Ted Nugent DEMF Bowhunt myself. -d
Re: (313) Inertia on Retroactive????
I believe the Inertia record just says "Edits by DJ Blackout". -d On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 10:33 AM, Arne Weinberg wrote: Yeah, I also thought that it is Damon Booker Marsel, are you sure? The track on "Panic in Detroit" is a little bit too cheesy for me honestly... Any other releases from him Cheers, Arne "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: At 08:18 +0100 18-01-2003, marsel wrote: it's by a guy called gerald I always thought that Inertia was A Guy Called Gerald but that DJ Blackout was Damon Booker? I really love the Inertia track on the Panic in Detroit compilation to! That track is definitely my favorite Inertia track for all info see http://www.forcefield.org/retroactive/ At 17-1-2003 + 23:57, you wrote: Hello everybody! i have this record from Inertia called "Nowhere to run". Is this really a Retroactive record? It is marked with SP12... Are there any other recommendable records from DJ Blackout that I should keep my eyes open for??? Thanx for the help .. . :: http://nomorewords.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°°
Re: (313) mayday
well they've done this one once anyway. On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 02:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: basic channel artists
Re: (313) Neptune Records: Royal Oak and Beyond
Wow. Blitz Records. Blitz was owned and operated by Mike Fiscus, who also published Anti-Matter ... Dan (Goober) Miller worked there on occasion. -d (missed the Nine Inch Nails in-store there.) :) On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 12:28 PM, dj337is wrote: cash reg was manned by Goober from Goober and the Peas, and I think Mr. Sicko did some editing of his mags in the back offices from time to time)
(313) Sienkiewicz
btw...How the Hell does one pronounce that name anyway??? (my Polish is non-exsistent;) after one of my favorite comic book artists, it'd be "Sin-KEV-itch" but I've heard people with the same spelling say "Sin-KAY-vitch" -d
Re: (313) re: 313 Electrifying Mojo
No, he's not on the air anywhere at the moment. Seems like 2 or 3 years now at least. Maybe he'll just get on the mic for 20 minutes before everyone spins to set the mood. :) -d On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 01:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from what i've heard, that list of artists for the roostertail event—which includes juan atkins, derrick may, eddie fowlkes, jeff mills, electrifying mojo, blake baxter, james pennington, stacey pullen, k-hand, mr. de, keith tucker, alan oldham, octave one, and mike huckaby, according to the press release i saw—is of the artists who'll be attending; i'm told that apparently most won't be spinning, or will spin for only a few minutes. it still sounds like it'll be a great event, and i'm bummed that i can't get away this weekend to make it in. re: electrifying mojo: when i interviewed him five years ago, he was still on the air on detroit radio, though when i tuned in it sounded nothing like the halcyon days of the wgpr-fm and wjlb-fm eras. my opportunities to listen to detroit radio come only about twice a year, though, so dan would definitely know better as to whether this is still the case. later, mike Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:38:26 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Andy Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 List <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: (313) Re: (313 Electrifying Mojo.(was Another Freep Article) Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm not sure everyone on that list is actually spinning? On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 04:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow - Electrifying Mojo will be playing. Since I'm not a Detroit resident I don't know this but does he still DJ on the radio? If anyone should play DEMF he should. MEK
Re: (313) Re: (313 Electrifying Mojo.(was Another Freep Article)
I'm not sure everyone on that list is actually spinning? On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 04:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow - Electrifying Mojo will be playing. Since I'm not a Detroit resident I don't know this but does he still DJ on the radio? If anyone should play DEMF he should. MEK
Re: (313) ron hardy track id
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 10:39 AM, techno wrote: I was illustrating a point: how the trend in "soul" is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. Wow, I never thought of that -- I'll stop listening immediately.
(313) test
plz ignore
Re: (313) top ten rediscoveries for 2002.
as were thousands in the Metro Detroit area ... :) what was it, an S.A.S.E. mailed into WJLB to get one of those cards? -d On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Andy Kellman wrote: Dave was a member of Mojo's "Midnight Funk Association"
(313) top tens
finally got around to mine ... these lists are all uninfluenced by the latest Submerge salvos, which I have yet to purchase. This and lists back to '99 on http://www.techno-rebels.com : 1. Recloose - Cardiology (Planet E) 2. Various - Scattered Snares (Twisted Funk) 3. Aardvarck - Find the Cow (Delsin) 4. Metro Area - Metro Area (Environ) 5. Jazzanova - In Between (JCR/Compost) 6. Nautilis - Sketches (Planet Mu) 7. Nuspirit Helsinki - Nuspirit Helsinki (Guidance) 8. Various - Compilation 2 (Music for Speakers) 9. Various - Day by Day (Delsin) 10. Drexciya - Grava v.4 (Clone) 1. Micatone - "Run (Seiji Remix)" (2000 Black) 2. Metro Area - "Dance Reaction" (Environ) 3. $tinkworx - "Todas Las Noches" (Delsin) 4. John Tejada - "Timebomb" (7th City) 5. John Arnold - "We're Not" (Ubiquity) 6. Russ Gabriel - "Flip Down to Break" (Emoticon) 7. Anthony Shakir - "What Me, Worry?" (7th City) 8. Double Helix - Funxtiles EP (Rush Hour) 9. Todd Sines - "Come Closer" (Planet E) 10. Moonstarr - The Dupont Remixes (Compost) Misc: * Rob Swift - Sound Event (Tableturns, Inc.) * Ayro, covering The Time's "777-9311" live @ Motor * DJ Genesis Mix CD * Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (Nonesuch) * Anything with Bembe Segue singing on it.
Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)
Is this like Eddie Murphy's character "Clarence," who played saxophone with the Beatles? -d On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:50 AM, Kent williams wrote: Dan, you didn't know that Yngvie was originally the fifth member of Kraftwerk, and was cut from the master tapes after a tiff with Florian? SOME TECHNO RESEARCHER YOU ARE! On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Dan Sicko wrote: Now I've seen everything on this list. :) On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:29 AM, Kent williams wrote: Yngvie Malmsteen. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
Re: (313) ableton live 2 beta 2 out (public)
Now I've seen everything on this list. :) On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 10:29 AM, Kent williams wrote: Yngvie Malmsteen.
