Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

[Jason Kenjar]

are there any tracks for the next drexciya comp listed someplace?


On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:

> No argument from me :)
> 
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte  wrote:
>> I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
>> was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.
>> 
>> fh
>> 
>> -
>>> Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
>>> quality, Emile...
>>> 
>>> I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
>>> know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
>>> remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
>>> might sound better/different -- Wavejumper & The Countdown Has Begun
>>> come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
>>> punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
>>> bad way...
>>> 
>>> I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
>>> might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
>>> I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
>>> involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
>>> bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
>>> Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
>>> so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)
>>> 
>>> jt
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey  wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.
 
 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them 
 were
 released on different labels, most of these 12"s were mastered by different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the 
 records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.
 
 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or seen
 on any original releases.
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 
> 
> well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)
> 
> but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
> and can depend on which system the music is played after (home headphones
> vs 100k stadium)
> 
> 
> 
> Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> all re-mastered -
>> 
>> 
>>  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
>> better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
>> was
>> 
>> Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
>> remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end
>> clarity
>> 
>> here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/
>> 
>> just thinking...
>> 
>> 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: (313) New Metroplex

[Jason Kenjar]

ouch. my ears.
this is metroplex? thumbs down.


On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:43 PM, John Sokolowski wrote:

> 
> Was pretty excited to stumble upon a new release on Metroplex by Kimyon. 
> Clips can be heard here:
> 
> http://www.kimyonhuggins.com/?p=164
> 
> Oh, and there is a release party next weekend in Detroit with Juan and Real 
> by Reel live!
> 
> http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?306216
> 
> I believe Kimyon and Juan collaborated on that 'Work for Money' track a few 
> years back. 

Re: (313) Claude Young & Shawn Rudiman live in Pittsburgh

[Jason Kenjar]

Kent, you remember when Shawn came to gabes and just smashed it?

Yeah I been under a rock, but Its been too long since we've had a show in town 
I've enjoyed that much. 

-jason


On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:31 AM, kent williams wrote:

> Many of the people on this list might remember the legendary DEMF
> pre-part at the Magic Stick where Shawn Rudiman & Claude Young went
> nuts.  They've done it again, and it was recorded this time:
> 
> http://soundcloud.com/claudeyoung/shawn-rudiman-vs-claude-young
> 
> Via this ISM post:
> http://infinitestatemachine.com/2011/09/19/shawn-rudiman-and-claude-young-live-in-pittsburgh-9-10-11/

Re: (313) Claude Young & Shawn Rudiman live in Pittsburgh

[Jason Kenjar]

thanks for this one
On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:31 AM, kent williams wrote:

> Many of the people on this list might remember the legendary DEMF
> pre-part at the Magic Stick where Shawn Rudiman & Claude Young went
> nuts.  They've done it again, and it was recorded this time:
> 
> http://soundcloud.com/claudeyoung/shawn-rudiman-vs-claude-young
> 
> Via this ISM post:
> http://infinitestatemachine.com/2011/09/19/shawn-rudiman-and-claude-young-live-in-pittsburgh-9-10-11/

Re: (313) the best Black Nation Records?()*^*()

[Jason Kenjar]

i like playahater 2 and some of the other earlier releases.
On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:11 AM, Richard Hester wrote:

> 
> Thanks for bringing up his name  - a real nice guy who did some kick-a** 
> tracks for BN (and maybe Sonic Mind, too - I'd have to look).
> Jeff Davis wrote:
>> And on a related note, does anyone know whatever happened to Aaron Bennett?
>> 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Jeffrey J Davis
>> www.jeffreyjdavis.com
>> 218.83DAVIS
>> 
>> j...@jeffreyjdavis.com jeffreyjamesdavis
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Samuel Karmel  
>> wrote:
>>> Ok i kinda skipped on this label except for a couple...whats the cream of 
>>> the crop?
>>> 
>>> pretty please
>>> 
>>> Sam
> 

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

[Jason Kenjar]

i use a lot of drexciyan tracks in my tv show called the Source Data show on 
patv.tv

i mix vinyl, then grab some footage off the inter-web, them mix that live over 
the audio.

i've used tracks off the quest, maybe a few others, steralization from DE and 
an arpanet track. only made three shows as they are labor intensive but more 
soon.




>> 
>> 
>>> For me, I tend to think of Drexciya's music as an overal ouevre; for
>>> example, put on "The Quest" and read Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues
>>> Under the Sea" or for that matter, cycle through their entire catalog
>>> on a low level (especially if you've got, say, a house wired with
>>> surround sound in every room and a central broadcasting source) and
>>> spend a dreary winter weekend with Robert Anton Wilson's "Illuminatus
>>> Trilogy."
>>> 
>>> But Frank, I totally agree with you - few tracks stand out on their
>>> own and bear repeated plays as singles; that said, when you throw one
>>> into a mix unexpectedly, I've seen people just lose their minds on the
>>> dance floor. It's almost the "secret handshake" of techno once you're
>>> somewhere besides Detroit.
>>> 
>>> There's no denying Stinson's influence on many Detroit artists and
>>> producers, or that Drexciya's trademark bubbling and popping funk
>>> sounds are audible in, say, Luke Eargoggle's tracks, giving them a
>>> "Frankenstein's castle in the year 2060" quality. My only regret is
>>> that they never produced an animated feature fleshing out the Aquabahn
>>> mythology with a full soundtrack; seems like it'd be perfect for a
>>> midnight double feature along with that French 1973 classic,
>>> "Fantastic Planet."
>>> 
>>> Has anyone considered selectively scoring a silent film with their
>>> work? If not, I'd love to see/hear it... a girl can dream!
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Frank Glazer  wrote:
 
 for research purposes only!
 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Matt Kane's Brain
  wrote:
> I assumed that you wouldn't publicly admit to downloading Drexciya
> tracks when you live on the coast. Be wary especially when crossing
> the river.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:14, Frank Glazer  wrote:
>> (as a side note, i find it interesting that in several discussions
>> i've had with music types about the drexciyan immersion project that
>> nobody has directly mentioned/asked how i managed to find the 390+
>> mp3s that i had to acquire in order to complete the project)
> --
> matt kane's brain
> http://hydrogenproject.com
> 
 
 
 
 --
 peace,
 
 frank
 
 http://www.deejaycountzero.com
 http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
>> 

Re: (313) Here's one for you?

[Jason Kenjar]

im a FIRM believer that the artist primary concer is to
satisfy themselves. if others like it great! if not then they be damned.

of course this kind thinking is not for marketing purposes.

On Sep 3, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Kennedy  wrote:

> Should an artist, working with a label (who may or may not pay them)
> revise a tune that they (the artist) consider a 'complete' work?  And
> if so, how far _should_ an artist compromise in order to satisfy the
> desires of a label?
> 
> Curious to see your answers 313ers!
> 
> 
> -- 
> fbk
> 
> sleepengineering/absoloop US

Re: (313) Lets start some old topics

[Jason Kenjar]

that one brings me back :p

see also: Why are there no woman in techno.. (covers ears)

On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

> Is there a hidden message in the Red Planet records?
> 
> 
> On 3 sep 2011, at 02:27, Fred Heutte wrote:
> 
>> Who is J### M and why does he keep throwing records at me?
>> 
>> fh
>> 
>> -
>>> Okay now we have new subscribers and i am seeing some old cats back on the 
>>> list, lets start
>> some 90's topic all over again :-)
>>> 
>>> I will start:
>>> - Is Plus 8 considered to be real Detroit techno?
>>> 
>>> :-))
>>> 
>>> KJ
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: (313) the drexciyan immersion project (was Re: (313) Drexciya reissues)

[Jason Kenjar]

anything and everything the released on UR and shockwave / submerge as 
drexciya..

davy jones locker is the most haunting creeping electro track ive ever heard 
and usually i dont drop down to that low bpm territory.

as far as other projects... arpanet, japanese telecom, dopplereffekt, and 
transllusion havent even been mentioned.

so much output by these two its just amazing.


On Sep 2, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Frank Glazer  wrote:

> journey home EP and black sea specifically were among the tracks i
> rated highest in iTunes star system during my first run through of the
> 350+ stinson/donald cuts i've listened to. black sea got five stars.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Rob Taylor  
> wrote:
>> yes, i suspect black sea is my favourite techno track of all time
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:11 PM, ja...@iridite.com 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Journey Home EP on Warp - incredible stuff!
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> On 2 September 2011 09:19, Ronny Pries  wrote:
>>>> Yeah, Wavejumper. Lost Vessel also got that something something. But for
>>>> some reason i never got around to play that one, dunno why.
>>>> 
>>>> WaveJumper is probably my favorite as well...  but as far as general
>>>> listening, The Other People place gets played over and over and over
>>>> again.
>>>>   But that's easy listening.
>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Frank Glazer 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since August 1st I've been trying to concentrate entirely on devouring
>>>>> the oeuvre of Gerald Donald and James Stinson (R.I.P.). We're talking
>>>>> about 24 full hours of music over about 45-50 albums, EPs, and singles
>>>>> including all their various pseudonyms. The reason I am doing this is
>>>>> because I find their music to be relatively tricky to wrap my head
>>>>> around in general, while so many of my friends consider Stinson/Donald
>>>>> to be among the best of their contemporaries. Specifically a lot of
>>>>> Stinson/Donald tunes sound particularly chaotic even to my modern ears
>>>>> well trained in noise, avant garde, and the repetitive loops of
>>>>> minimal classical (Steve Reich, Philip Glass) and "techno" music. I
>>>>> wondered if completely saturating my ears with only their music would
>>>>> change my opinion/enlighten me to their supposed genius at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To date I am about halfway through the project based on mostly casual
>>>>> subway ride listening, and I've not been as diligent in avoiding the
>>>>> fast forward button as I'd hoped I could be. It's really difficult to
>>>>> stick to one artist who produced a pretty consistent style of music
>>>>> without listening to anything else for such an extended period of
>>>>> time. I do occasionally give my ears a bit of a break and allow myself
>>>>> to hear some non Stinson/Donald tunage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To date "Wavejumper" from their 1995 "Aquatic Invasion EP" remains my
>>>>> absolute favorite Drexciya tune:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://youtu.be/imKh_TKqHt4
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a side note, the name I've given this experiment - Drexciyan
>>>>> Immersion Project - is a kind of funny nod to the sci-fi underwater
>>>>> mythology that Drexciya built around their music/built their music
>>>>> around.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jason Kenjar 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> an undiscovered track or three would be nice..i can dream rite?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Some interesting news on the wire:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/09/drexciya-reissues-coming-soon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sadly, it's been nearly a decade since early '90s Detroit
>>>>>>> techno/electro duo Drexciya last released new music. However, we've
>>>>>>> just discovered that reissues of the pair's early material will be
>>>>>>> surfacing in the near future. Clone Classic Cuts, the reissues
>>>>>>> imprint
>>>>>>> for Dutch label Clone, announced just yesterday: "We will reissue
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> early Drexciya catalogue on Clone. We are currently busy restoring
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> original master tapes, and hopefully we will have the first one
>>>>>>> ready
>>>>>>> before the end of the year! Of course, we will keep you updated on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> process." No further details were shared, but the news itself is
>>>>>>> certainly exciting, to say the least. (via FACT)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> peace,
>>>>> 
>>>>> frank
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.deejaycountzero.com
>>>>> http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> peace,
> 
> frank
> 
> http://www.deejaycountzero.com
> http://www.infinitestatemachine.com

Re: (313) Drexciya reissues

[Jason Kenjar]

an undiscovered track or three would be nice..i can dream rite?

On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:

> Some interesting news on the wire:
> 
> http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2011/09/drexciya-reissues-coming-soon
> 
> Sadly, it's been nearly a decade since early '90s Detroit
> techno/electro duo Drexciya last released new music. However, we've
> just discovered that reissues of the pair's early material will be
> surfacing in the near future. Clone Classic Cuts, the reissues imprint
> for Dutch label Clone, announced just yesterday: "We will reissue the
> early Drexciya catalogue on Clone. We are currently busy restoring the
> original master tapes, and hopefully we will have the first one ready
> before the end of the year! Of course, we will keep you updated on the
> process." No further details were shared, but the news itself is
> certainly exciting, to say the least. (via FACT)

(313) new UR material

[jason kenjar]

Hey everyone,

Submerge just dropped an arm full of new material. The new lp, as well as 4 or 
5 single releases are now available for purchase.

Re: (313) Which detroit techno records have a number in the title or refer to numbers??

[jason kenjar]

Los Hermanos - Birth  of  3000
Los Hermanos - Tres
Jason Brunton - Titile track 2 - One More than One

AND FINALLY

Robert Hood - Who Taught You Math



On Oct 24, 2005, at 6:03 AM, robin wrote:



A Number of Names - Shari Vari

?

robin...



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ugh, someone asked me to do a chart for work. ha hah ahahaha (i'm not
joking).
so, I work at an accountants, so I thought I'd do a numbers  
related chart.

e.g.
1. Kraftwerk "Numbers"
2. Herbie Hancock "Magic Number"
but I need to put a detroit techno record in there but I cant  
really think

of any that go!
can anyone think of any?

Re: (313) Juno orders from US?

[jason kenjar]

whattup knightrider? hows things?


Juno is totally professional. Ordered from them dozens of times,  
never even close to a real problem. They are one of the mail order  
stores that  keep up with their stock, provide great sound clips, and  
back it up with service.


green light.

-j


On Oct 20, 2005, at 4:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






any US list people ever order from Juno?

review?  good/bad/never again/fantastic?

MEK

Re: (313) New Jeff Mills ep / dj bone

[jason kenjar]

Good lookin out klaas. Give the man a cookie! On topic and on point.

this ep sounds like the mills I've been waiting for. Im not  gifted at  
describing music, but I love the more sophisticated sounds of the  
latest purpose maker as compared to *some* of jeffs recent offerings.  
percussion abound and the warm, lush synth tones. go to the axis site  
and follow your ears. I wish i could get some dibs on it.


Tip to list, for more great techno check out DJ BONEs new mix CD.  
Seriously inspired. The track listing is overflowing with ripe talent.  
Leaves me begging for more.


-jason


On Sep 8, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

Taken from:  
http://technotourist.org/modules.php? 
op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=795


Jeff Mills offers his first exclusive 12" Ep for the Axis Shop. Taken  
from the archive of unreleased Purpose Maker tracks, he punctuates his  
influence in the world of Electronic Music with this 3 track 12" Ep  
entitled "Time Mechanic" (ax-043). Easily accessible for any type of  
dj, as with all the Purpose Maker releases, this release bares much  
more emotion. Funky basslines, precise arrangements and sexy  
percussion all equal to " Millsian Minimalism" that is hard to find  
today. A must-have for any Purpose Maker/Axis collector. For more  
detiails: visit www.axisrecords.com

(313) song of the day

[jason kenjar]

sup.

thanks to robin for posting that larkin interview. 

just listening to "Take Me". Its a theo parrish jam off the parallel dimensions 
tripple. I remember buying the whole album just for this one joint. Perfect 
song for the day as  the chorus goes "take me out the dark. take me to the 
light". I havent been able to sleep all night for some reason dont know why.

whats your song of the day?

(313) paging minto / jt downlow records

[jason kenjar]

hey guys-

have a question about my copy of the new convextion white label. gave you guys 
a call. hit me up at the number i left or write back soon as you can

-jason

(313) Henrik Schwarz...ala cheap imitation

[jason kenjar]

What about this Henrik Schwarz guy?  Listening right now to samples of his "The 
second Ep" which can be found on dancetracks.com 

HS is just another european sponge artist stuck on trying to imitate the "M" 
series.  Get the real deal  peep's, Moritz is yo daddy!!!

-->flame on<---  ;)

cya jason






On Tuesday, May 03, 2005, at 10:46AM, Derek Plaslaiko. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>
>
>
>anyone else feelin this?
>
>
>seems like something that should have already been mentioned, so if i 
>missed it before... sorry.
>
>
>if you want to hear it, im doing really long samples on the site
>
>
>http://www.wattsmusic.com
>
>
>punch 20 in the search feild and it will come up.
>
>
>must have realplayer.
>
>
>derek.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: (313)[Fwd: Groovetech.com Announcement]haha!!

[jason kenjar]

 313-

Found a new contender for worst track of the year!! Follow the link into 
phonica records and check the Snoop Doggy Dogg acid remix on the white label.  
HILARIOUS! 

The butcher responsible for making this track needs to be tracked down and shot.






On Friday, April 01, 2005, at 07:35AM, Michael Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Anyone else get this?
>
>I was quite excited when I saw the subject, alas it seems like someone 
>is using the groovetech name to get hits?  They claim to have some 
>groovetech assets - I presume this isn't the radio or mix archive?
>
> Original Message 
>Subject:   Groovetech.com Announcement
>Date:  Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:58:49 +0100
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>*GROOVETECH.COM ANNOUNCEMENT*
>
>You will have been aware that Groovetech.com ceased trading in October
>2003.
>
>In lieu of money secured to Vinyl Factory Ltd certain assets relating to
>the Groovetech.com web site were transferred to Vinyl Factory.
>
>Vinyl Factory Ltd have recently launched a web site for their highly
>acclaimed London record shop; Phonica Records.
>If you would like to look at the Phonica Records web site please click
>here .
>
>If you would like to receive regular email updates for new releases from
>the Phonica Records web site, please send a blank e-mail to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>Below you will find a copy of our latest essential records mail out to
>give you an idea of who we are.
>
>*Please note that your personal information has not been transferred to
>Phonica Records or any other third party. This is a one off e-mail.*
>
>Vinyl Factory Ltd
>
>
>*Thursday 31st March 2005*
>
>Hello,
>
>Phonica Records is a record shop based in Soho, London and we specialize
>in vinyl releases (and some cds) of house, techno, electro, minimal,
>hip hop, nu jazz & broken beat, electronica, breaks, funk, soul, disco,
>rock, downbeat and more. We are now online and have a full webshop where
>you can listen to 1000s of tracks and buy online. Listed below are just
>a few of this weeks new releases  there are hundreds more on the
>website itself and an extensive back catalogue of classics and recent
>stock.
>
>You can listen to this entire e-mail by clicking here
> or click the links next to
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>
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(313) other peoples place.

[jason kenjar]

The Other Peoples Place double on Warp: LifeStyles Of The Laptop Cafe. 
Its hard to put into words how powerful the music is.  It brings back a 
lot of memories.


later.

Re: (313) Detroitlover - Transmat collection

[jason kenjar]

Check the artwork! Good music on those records.

 Nice find Mike


On Thursday, March 24, 2005, at 10:03 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







found this person's website through discogs - take a look at the nice
display of Transmat original center labels

http://www.detroitlover.com/transmat.html

MEK

Re: (313) Arpanet On Rephlex

[jason kenjar]

no, i know nothing about it. But if that rumor is true, sign me up! I still 
love their last album. So innovative and fresh.



 
On Wednesday, March 02, 2005, at 08:56AM, Odeluga, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>Can you guys keep the noise down please? ;-)
>
>I hear there's a new Arpanet LP coming on Rephlex. Anyone heard anything
>about this?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ken
>
>Ken Odeluga
>
>Editor, Markets - Market Talk
>
>Dow Jones Newswires
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

Re: (313) Soldier Rolando no longer with UR

[jason kenjar]

Where did you get this information Rebelbass? Who asked him what and when?

Does anybody know more?


On Tuesday, February 08, 2005, at 05:45PM, Rebelbass/bookings <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've heard that it started in december last year. there were no credits for
>Rolando's music on the Los Hermanos album wich appeared in december last
>year. he worked for several months in his studio for this album. On the
>album 'on another level' was written: all tracks by Gerald Mitchel. The band
>los hermanos is NOT rolando. these are the people who are involved:
>santiago, gerald mitchell, mike banks, and frankie 3000. Suburban Knight as
>dj. Mike Banks is the publisher of Los Hermanos. It was also Mike who formed
>the band Los hermanos. Rolando was not involved by the forming of this band.
>When he asked he was told: the label is from UR not from you.
>
>It looks like Rolando has been ripped by his own brothers...?
>
>
>it looks to me like that.
>
>
>
>>> Due to unforeseen and sadly irreconcilable differences
>>> in respect of his partners in the Los Hermanos label -
>>> Rolando will make no further recordings with Los Hermanos and
>>> is seeking to amicably dissolve his partnership.
>> 
>> W
>> T
>> F
>> ?
>> 
>> Kamal K. Stoddard
>> Turner Broadcasting Systems
>> 
>> 
>> ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year
>> olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or
>> gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
>> 
>> 
>
>
>

Re: (313) Interesting 313 gift

[jason kenjar]

There's an Axis Soccer Ball, thats way more appropriate for the 
European gift giver ;)



On Monday, January 31, 2005, at 12:28 PM, matt kane's brain wrote:


At 01:25 PM 1/31/2005, KiDD*e* wrote:
And i definitively have no idea...i thought to the Analog 10, but i 
think i

wake up waaay to late  :T
So if you have any proposal about DVD/CD box, book or any other item, 
313

related or more widely 'electronic' that would be nice :)


The Axis BEACH TOWEL. (and pencil set)
--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt kane's brain
http://www.hydrogenproject.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk

(313) ebay (spam)

[jason kenjar]

hey folks-

trying to pick up a few bones, so Im lettin' go of some tracks:

Abstract Thought - Hypothetical Situations - Kombination Research
Hexagone - Burning Trash Floor -  Djax
mathew Jonson - typerope - Itiswhatitis
R tyme - Use me - Trance Fusion
Esser - Forces - KMS
Laurent Garnier -Planet House - FNAC
Morgan / Wild - Flower Child / Avion -Geometric

The auction for all these records ends in a few hours. I posted sound 
samples, hopefully they work.


http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjason_ic

...
That was painless, right? cya!

jason

Re: (313) DJ Bone - Longevity 1 & 2

[jason kenjar]

Enough good things cannot be said about these two records. If i had to 
pick one track, it would be the ritual. All fours tracks rock the boat.


Its been so long since we heard from the subject detroit camp, then 
bone releases 6 eps of his own material within months and one from juan 
to boot. I know Ive mentioned this before, but still  
"...listenpeople..."



On Thursday, January 13, 2005, at 08:40 AM, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:





really realll really reallly reaay   great stuff!!!


im not sure if these are the records you guys were speaking of a month 
or

so ago, we ust got the whites here at watts, but  W O W ! ! !


cant wait to hear the next 3!!!



derek.

Re: (313) Krafwerk Booty

[jason kenjar]

I think its all Ultra Sales Pitch.

I listened to the samples on nuloop. Same "common" tracks as far as I 
can tell, and the mastering is the same as it was in the early 80's. 
Type in Kraftwerk in Gemm, hit show all releases on vinyl, and wait 5 
minutes for your computer to load all the sellers that can hook you up 
with the vinyl.


non-the-less martin, thanks for keeping an eye out. You've got it 
together man.



On Monday, January 10, 2005, at 11:04 AM, Kowalsky wrote:

Here, in Brazil, you can find brazilian editions of ALL Kraftwerk 
albuns in almost any used records store. Sometimes even import 
editions in heavy weight vinyl.

I can't the "ultra rare traxx" point either.

Kowalsky

On 10/01/2005, at 14:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






"Ultra Rare Traxx"? I wasn't aware that these are that "ultra" rare.  
Hmmm,

last time I saw on eBay and Gemm you could get these fairly easily.

MEK




 "Martin Dust"
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 com> 
  To

   <313@hyperreal.org>
 01/08/2005 03:23 
  cc

 PM
   
Subject

   (313) Krafwerk Booty










This may be of interest to people who wanna play the tunes out on the 
1s

and
2s.

https://www.phonicarecords.co.uk/detail.aspx?ID=2986

Martin

Re: (313) WTF happened to Submerge?!?!?!?

[jason kenjar]

yeah, that is cool!  Thanks for pointing that out! I was referring to 
their www.submerge.com website. The mail order part is what Im 
disappointed with.


Yeah, recording wise I'm so glad to have orlando voorn, I hope they 
keep it real with Puzzlebox because keith tucker is one of my all time 
favorites. More los hermanos, the better too.



On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:

That is what you noticed? I thought this is way interesting: 
http://www.submergerecordings.com/


Jay! Galaxy 2 Galaxy album gimme, gimme, gimme!
Los Hermanos album gimme, gimme, gimme!
Mr. De'  album gimme, gimme, gimme!

Good to see Orlando Voorn and Keith Tucker up there to...

KJ


On 7-jan-05, at 19:43, jason kenjar wrote:

yeah, i was on there two the other day.. I just didn't want to be the 
one to break to the list the bad news..


HOWEVER, if you manage to find your way through it, they have better 
samples of their record stock now and pictures to go with them.. 
Still though, the redesign is more bad than good. gaudy looking red 
text and total disorganization. Plus, those banners are so tacky. God 
awful design in general.


damn it all. I still love you even though your ugly, baby! I just 
wont be around as much...thats all


-jason



On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Pascal Louwes wrote:

Oh my god... I have to agree... I did not even dare to start 
browsing...


Paz

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2005 19:02
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) WTF happened to Submerge?!?!?!?

its been down a couple days, now its finally back up with what 
appears to be
the worst store redesign of all time. ill cry if this is really the 
future

of submerge's online shop!

(313) discogs

[jason kenjar]

Though it might be slow, and I think OVERLY picky about what is 
submitted. Its still such a great help and I dare not bite the hand 
that feeds me at this point in time.



On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 11:53 AM, matt kane's brain wrote:

Well, why doesn't somebody make an update to discogs then? it only 
takes about a month for the update to take effect :)


At 12:51 PM 1/7/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was at work when I posted that and didn't have my vinyl with me so I
looked on discogs.  Looks discogs has it screwed up again. I was 
pretty

sure before looking that Q was on the 2x12" as well as the extra 7".


--
unsigned short int to_yer_mama;
matt kane's brain
http://www.hydrogenproject.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk

Re: (313) WTF happened to Submerge?!?!?!?

[jason kenjar]

yeah, i was on there two the other day.. I just didn't want to be the 
one to break to the list the bad news..


HOWEVER, if you manage to find your way through it, they have better 
samples of their record stock now and pictures to go with them.. Still 
though, the redesign is more bad than good. gaudy looking red text and 
total disorganization. Plus, those banners are so tacky. God awful 
design in general.


damn it all. I still love you even though your ugly, baby! I just wont 
be around as much...thats all


-jason



On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Pascal Louwes wrote:

Oh my god... I have to agree... I did not even dare to start 
browsing...


Paz

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2005 19:02
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) WTF happened to Submerge?!?!?!?

its been down a couple days, now its finally back up with what appears 
to be
the worst store redesign of all time. ill cry if this is really the 
future

of submerge's online shop!

tom


andythepooh.com

(313) southern outpost

[jason kenjar]

hey folks,

Im looking for 313'er  agent patrick (or anybody) from the Australian 
label Southern Outpost. Can somebody provide a phone number I can reach 
them at? I've tried the email route and the website is under 
construction.


thanks!
-jason

Re: (313) Fw: I've escaped to a beach !

[jason kenjar]

yeah  my favorite is [EMAIL PROTECTED]   he used to be out of the  
office, now he no longer works there.  whattup nick!!   haha.  whaddaya  
gonna do bout it?  pretty annoying though



On Wednesday, December 29, 2004, at 02:28 PM, Martin Dust wrote:


Anyone getting loads of these when mailing 313?

Martin

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: I've escaped to a beach !



I've escaped to a beach !

Normal office hours will resume on Wed 5th January.

If a very urgent matter you may contact me on 07831 197845
all booking enquires and event promotions will be dealt with on my  
return


Merry Christmas everyone!


:: 
::


Friday 31st December : Haywire & Wang present NYE Party
SQUAREPUSHER DJ SET [Warp]
ANDREW WEATHERALL [RGC]
RADIOACTIVE MAN [Control Tower]
PLAID DJ SET [Warp]
WARLOCK [Rag&Bone]
NOYEAHNO [Rag&Bone]
ARDISSON - LIVE [Seed]
RICK HOPKINS [Outlet]
BASS JUNKIE [BattleTrax]
THE DEXORCIST [Control Tower]
MAT CARTER [Varial]
ELECTRO ELVIS [Wang]
LULA [Wang]
ED CHAMBERLAINE [Baselogic]
GEORGE 'SKULL' HULL [Baselogic]
Visuals by PixelPasta
The musical might of the full Fairshare Unity Soundsystem
(all sixteen scoop bins) finally back up to full strength, a true  
wonder of the modern world!

8pm - 5.30am in an East London warehouse E1
www.haywire.co.uk
www.wanging.com
www.ticketweb.co.uk



:: 
::

(313) Dar k Co medy album

[jason kenjar]

Was it on this list that I heard that kenny will not be releasing his new dark 
comedy album on vinyl?  Is that just hearsay or does somebody know for sure.  I 
dont see why he wouldnt...

somebody tell me im wrong.

-jason

(313) kraftwerk the catalog

[jason kenjar]

List, sorry to ask this again but...

did Kraftwerk release "The Catalog" on vinyl, cd, or both?  Or are they 
still working on it?


-j

Re: (313) New Charts Up

[jason kenjar]

Thats a good rumor and i tend to believe it because I know bone isnt 
planning on stopping anytime soon.


I would welcome a second release from juan on that label.


On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, at 08:30 AM, Martin Dust wrote:

Last thing I heard from the SD camp was there was 3 more 10"s on the 
way and a mix CD - I haven't heard anything yet, anyone else?


Knowhere is the most played track in the office and on the decks, love 
that tune..


Martin

- Original Message ----- From: "jason kenjar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: (313) New Charts Up


couldn't agree more with your top 3 martin.  Runner up could be Bones 
other 10" Ahne Smiled is a solid track, taking strings beyond...


you here bones new one yet? Its right in front of me havent had a 
chance to hear it





On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, at 08:16 AM, Martin Dust wrote:


Hey 313,

New charts up:

http://www.littledetroit.net/Charts/December2004.php

Martin

(313) kenny larkin DJ sets

[jason kenjar]

hey everyone,

last summer kenny larkin played a GREAT techno set here in iowa city. 
Does anyone have a track listing of any of Mr. Larkin's recent dj sets?


thanks in advance !

-jason

Re: (313) A possible reason for so much off-topic...

[jason kenjar]

I think UR is on point-

Windchime was incredible. Orlando Voorn is on a roll.  I like the way 
electro funk is going, and UR is releasing another Aquanauts.




On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 08:47 AM, robin wrote:

ust had a thought: maybe the fact that UR have gone off the boil in 
some peoples eyes (mine one of em) has left 313 techno with a slight 
lack of focus?


robin...

Re: (313) top ten

[jason kenjar]

disagree

I can think of a Kit Clayton live set that was totally glich. It was an 
amazing disc burned from a live show. I think the real problem is the 
vast amount of perlon wannabe's that flooded the market. Playing a 
bunch of mediocre style bitters would mke any set sound bland.






On Wednesday, December 8, 2004, at 12:47 PM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







When you hear set after set of micro/clicky stuff that segues very 
smoothly

from one track to another it gets worn out.
That or all the glitchy stuff sounds less freaky, and has less of an
impact, if the entire set it made up of Perlon style snippet beats and
rhythms.

style overdose

MEK

(313) top ten list

[jason kenjar]

hey list,

It would be cool if everyone posted their top ten favorites this time 
around. I dont remember too many people posting last year.
Its a very helpful post because it challenges you to take a good look 
at what you have. It would be very educational.



-j

Re: (313) top ten

[jason kenjar]

Alright, my favorite 10 artist for 2004 : (in no particular order)

1) Lucien-n-Luciano :  Man, has this guy made a lot of great stuff this 
year. I cant keep track of it all. Blind Behaviour is an incredible 
album.
2) DJ Bone : All of his new subject detroit records are top shelf. Each 
record of the series impresses me equally. He's back
3) Keith Tucker: The new Fuzion: Detroit to Rome ep is a masterpiece. 
Classic Keith (and great effort by Max Durante)

4) Posatronix:  that new release on Planck Era is really something else.
5) Orlando Voorn: The new ignitor series is great, I play out the TANK 
release a lot. Hes also re-releasing a lot of gems.

6) Juan Atkins: The new fast forward series is very imaginative techno.
7) Sterac Electronics: I love all his new electro cuts.
8) Isolee - have you heard the Pony the Funk rmx? Or the Recloose rmx 
he's done?

9) Dex: The electro cut on Motech 5. Submerge.
10) memory Foundation: Great techno on central.

laters
-jason








On Monday, December 6, 2004, at 12:16 PM, De Block, Mario wrote:


hey guys any ideas for last 2004's 'top ten'?

my ideas would be like:

*'The Jazzy Drumsolo' - Strategy (Kranky)
*Laurent Garnier and Jeff Mills set, Switch, Studio Brussels 17.09.04
*'110th August' - Takashi Wada (Onitor)
*'Iambic 9 Poetry' - Squarepusher (Warp)
*'Saddisfie Ya' - Rob Brown (Odds & End)
*'Jus' Dance (KenLou mix)' - Mr V (KenLou)
*'Golden (Sir Piers 'Curios' vocal)' - Jill Scott (Advance)
*'Rivers of Sand' - Fennesz (Touch)
*Biosphere live, Planetarium Brussels, 30.10.04
*'Strike' (lp) - 154 (Delsin)

with extra props to: September Collective, Poji Records, 
Deltidseskapism

(Source), Rushhour's DJ Red D set at last summer's Ten Days Off

Re: (313) Aquanauts - Titanic EP

[jason kenjar]

I guess it will be both 7" and 12" according to the link...

On Friday, December 3, 2004, at 02:07 PM, jason kenjar wrote:

Its not out yet, but it will be soon. I like the cruise ship killa 
track.

It will be released as a 7"

-jason




On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 12:07 PM, kj at technotourist dot 
org wrote:



There is a new Aquanauts EP out on UR:

http://www.undergroundresistance.com/ammo/ammo_i_056.html

Now try to trainspot the artists from the label picture, yes the 
artwork contains a picture from the artists :)



KJ

Re: (313) Aquanauts - Titanic EP

[jason kenjar]

Its not out yet, but it will be soon. I like the cruise ship killa 
track.

It will be released as a 7"

-jason




On Saturday, November 27, 2004, at 12:07 PM, kj at technotourist dot 
org wrote:



There is a new Aquanauts EP out on UR:

http://www.undergroundresistance.com/ammo/ammo_i_056.html

Now try to trainspot the artists from the label picture, yes the 
artwork contains a picture from the artists :)



KJ

Re: (313) somehow this is so UR

[jason kenjar]

Im jealous. I want one. 

Maqueen, are you seriously considering getting this or are you just pulling my 
leg. If I had the money and the means I would go for it.

 
On Tuesday, November 16, 2004, at 09:45AM, Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> >w/rotor blades
>
>That sealed it for me, wonder if its got eagle eyes!
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>> i was thinking about this for my home DJ setup, has anyone used one of 
>> these before ?  ;)
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5gyqm
>
>
>

(313) The works live on.

[jason kenjar]

hey everyone.

Just taking my first listen to the drexciya release hydro doorways ep 
on tresor. For everyone who is really wanting to hear the SID drexciya 
release, it sounds stylistically similar to this ep.


so tired from work I think Im going to enjoy this sleep.

cant get enough of this drexciya stuff, so much great work to 
comprehend.

Re: (313) stinson interview

[jason kenjar]

having technical trouble reading the interview. darn.


On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, at 07:49 AM, Aidan O'Doherty wrote:

http://www.dorja.com/~daveg/entries/2004/10/14/drexciya-interview- 
from-melody-maker-1995/


apologies if this has been posted before. the late mr stinson didn't  
mince his words, especially with regards to hawtin.


how long is it since there has been a richie bashing on this list?

ta,
aidan

(313) fresh out

[jason kenjar]

hi list:
just got a new record order in; here are some keepers:

The keith tucker and max durante fuzion record "From Detroit to Rome" 
is some good electro. Very pure electric sound waves.

<>
Also, The new central record has some great deep bass lines on it, 
Great techno that feels both deep and tracky.

<>
I grabbed a few record from the label "eargasmic", the standout is the 
red one cs strategy as a number of us have already mentioned. Good 
lookin out everyone who pointed that out. I been a fan of jamal moss's 
stuff for a while. And this is really good work.



... now playing : Fly by night -=- Aux 88 -=- Bass Magnetic LP


 

(313) aux 88 question

[jason kenjar]

hey-

Anybody know if that "technology" track that appeared on Bass Magnetic 
double pack is the same as the Direct beat release called "technology"?

(313) DJ backpacks

[jason kenjar]

Hey list- 

looking for some advice here.

I could use a new backpack for my vinyl. The best one I've seen are the UR 
bags. They are made of strong material and have shoulder straps so I can wear 
it like a backpack. They also stand upright when full of record (some bags tip 
over) and have a large enough front pocket to carry around a good amount of 
stuff. The only thing Im not so sure about is the logo, I dont like wearing 
logos like underground resistance because when I travel, I get flagged.

I might just get the UR bag, but I was wondering what you folks use? If you 
really like a bag that has a) shoulder straps, b) stands up right when full of 
record, c) strong material, and d) large pockets...please let me know.

have a great week gang... And pickup the new sterac on your next trip to the 
record store ;)

-jason

Re: (313) detroit event - 3 chairs monthly residency at oslo - begins tonite

[jason kenjar]

How are the shows at oslo? the lineup always looks good.

On Saturday, October 23, 2004, at 06:23 PM, ani wrote:


not sure if this was posted already or not:


kenny dixon jr. (mahogani music, kdj)

rick wilhite (vibes new and rare music)

theo parrish (sound signature)

malik pittman (unirhythm)


oslo

21+
10 pm - 3 am
21+
1456 woodward
detroit

www.3chairs.net
www.osloworld.com

Re: (313) new Los Hermanos 7"

[jason kenjar]

love it




On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 08:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyone heard the new Los Hermanos 7"?

I quite like it, kinda had to slow it down though. Is there something 
wrong

with me?

: )

Re: (313) ain't heard this in ages.

[jason kenjar]

YES! That album is amazing.


On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 08:39 AM, lee herrington wrote:



drowsy at work...  so I popped in "aux88-is it man or machine".  what a
great pick-me-up!  this stuff never gets old.

:-)

cheers,


lee r. herrington
u store it
technical support specialist

440-260-2245

Re: (313) 10:09:04: THE FURNACE vol.II issue 2 Release Party this Saturday!]

[jason kenjar]

looks like you guys are gonna have fun up there in the d,


On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 07:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


 Original Message  


Subject: 10:09:04:  THE FURNACE vol.II issue 2 Release Party this
Saturday! From:"Jocelyne Ninneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Wed, October 6, 2004 5:21 pm
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- 
---


Yet another issue of THE FURNACE loose on the streets
SATURDAY . OCTOBER 9 . 2004


The Corktown Press proudly presents the 5th edition of Detroit's  
literary

arts journal THE FURNACE
volume II . issue 2
"exposUre"




at yet another fabulous release party:
8pm - 1am

___
at The Display Group Warehouse
1700 West Fort St.
[between Trumbull & Rosa Parks]
__
featuring live performances from:

KINDRED feat. Detroit's musical legend, Faruq Z. Bey,
Joel Peterson, Kevin Kalloway, and Kenny Green

The one-man band, FRANK PAHL

DJ Greg Mudge


Art Exhibit by the ARTIST GUILD of DETROIT


*ample refreshments provided

__
Tickets:  $10 advance | $15 door
*ticket includes a FREE copy of the fresh Furnace!

Pre-Sale available at the following locations:

Cafe de Troit : 1260 Library St. near E. Grand River Ave.
Idle Kids: 3535 Cass Ave. near MLK Blvd. | Detroit Summer


For more information & pre-sale tickets:



V.II i.2 features:

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Shrinking Cities
Motor City Record Labels kick-out the jams: Cass Records . Ersatz  
Audio .

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poetry
art
cartoons
you.

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Re: (313) Re: EAR ache

[jason kenjar]

Unbelievable. "The hypocrisy reading levels at 100 percent and rising, 
captain..."

On Friday, October 1, 2004, at 08:11 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote:

I've just re-read the entire post, and had a look at 
http://www.djmani.com. Have a glance

at his top labels list:

Labels I Like
AXIS - Chicago - Jeff Mills
CL RECORDINGS - Berlin - Chris Liebing
DRUMCODE - Stockholm - Adam Beyer
ELEKTRIX - London - Billy Nasty
F-COM - Paris - Laurent Garnier
GIGOLO - Berlin - DJ Hell
H PRODUCTIONS - Stockholm - Cari Lekebusch
IN-TEC - London - Carl Cox
KANZLERAMT - Berlin - Heiko Laux
ORBEAT - Naples - Danilo Vigorito
MINUS - Windsor - Richie Hawtin
MUSIC MAN - Amsterdam
MUTE
PURE SONIK - Chicago - T-1000
RED PLANET - Detroit - Original UR sub-label
SYNEWAVE - NYC - Damon Wild
TORTURED - London - Billy Nasty
TRESOR - Berlin
UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE - Detroit
WARP RECORDS - Sheffield
ZENIT - Naples - Marco Carola

Hmm... Mostly European. Sounds to me like he's just had a few intense 
conversations in
his recent travels and came out of them with what would essentially be 
a good idea (for
American record buyers), but has gone way past the mark with his 
boycott idea, and
spouted a load of ill-informed crap at the end of it. Frankly, I 
wouldn't bother getting
too huffy about it. Dude's just stumbled onto some 
flavour-of-the-month ideology and put
his foot in it. The basic idea is not such a bad one though (other 
than the boycott).


Tristan

Re: (313) Subject Detroit previews + more

[jason kenjar]

Heya

Bone's tracks are better in my opinion, but it does sound like lohie is 
taking a cue from Bone..which is a good thing.


Also, I wanted to mention that Orlando Voorn has re-released basic 
bastard 4, and has now officially released basic bastard 5! 
And...(drumroll) ... Los Hermanos 5 is now available through Submerge ( 
on 7 inch)


Did I mention the new hieroglyphic being samples!  More great music, 
you can hear samples at dancetracks.com

...
...
..
.
you still reading? go get these records! ;)





yeh don't get me wrong they're both super dope. I wrote that last 
message as the second track was coming in. that release is my favorite 
from bone so far. having given the rest a listen, I'm not as keen on 
the dj lohie (who is he?) as i am on the two bone releases, but it 
still kills 98% of recent techno activity imo. but that's just me.

Re: (313) Fw: FCOM back

[jason kenjar]

did you tell 'em so? Somebody should'a put the bug in their ear about 
repressing FNAC by this point...anybody? i'll do it..



On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 04:29 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote:



On Sep 28, 2004, at 2:03 AM, Marsel // Nomorewords.net wrote:


New entity for FCOM
F...U !  FCOM. The dancefloor section of F Communications

We are already happy to announce 4 releases planned on our new 
dancefloor section :

20 sept - DJINXX - Blue Flag
18 oct - VINCE WATSON - Innersense EP
22 nov - SOUL DESIGNER - The mother funky beat
Jan 2005 - DJINXX - Transfer EP


they would also be wise to re-issue some of the oldies, and/or FNAC 
catalog, if they have the rights to...


--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

(313) CLASSIC UR TITLES repressed & remastered

[jason kenjar]

hey list,

got this list from my local record store...thats all I know. take a 
look, some re-mastered and re-edited UR.


-jason_ic






**NOTE RE-MASTERED TITLES**

UR001 : UR feat. Yolanda "Your Time Is Up"
    
label: UR
artist: UR feat. Yolanda
Your Time Is Up


UR002 : Underground Resistance "Sonic Ep"
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Orbit - Eye Of The Storm
B side: Predator - Elimination


UR003 : Underground Resistance "The Final Frontier"
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: The Final Frontier - Entering Quadrant 5
B side: Base Camp Alpha 808

UR004X : Underground Resistance "Waveform X" **2004 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Quadrasonic
B side: Beauty Of Decay - Backroad To Nirvana


UR005 : Underground Resistance "Nation 2 Nation"
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Big Stone Lake - Sometimes I Feel Like - Nation 2 Nation
B side: Body and Soul - The Theory - 303 Sunset


UR006: Blake Baxter "The Prince Of Techno"
   
label: UR
artist: Blake Baxter
A side: When A Thought Becomes U - It's A Funky World
B side: Vision Of Truth - Combustible


UR007: UR feat. Yolanda "Living For The Night"
   
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance feat. Yolanda
A side: For The Nite - For The Music - For The Voice
B side: For The Feeling - For The Club


UR010 : Underground Resistance "The Riot EP" **2004 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artists: Underground Resistance
A side: Riot - Panic
B side: Rage - Assault


UR010 : Suburban Knight "Nocturbulous Behaviour"
   
label: UR
artists: Suburban Knight aka James Pennington
A side: Infra Red Spectrum - Magnetic Timetable
B side: Nocturbulous


UR013.5 : X-101 "Sonic Destroyer"
    
label: UR
artist: X-101 aka Jeff Mills and Mad Mike
A side: Sonic Destroyer
B side: G-Force


UR015 : Various Artists "Aztlan / Day Star Rising"
   
label: UR
artist: Mad Mike, DJ Rolando and Octave One
A side: Aztlan
B side: Day Star Rising


UR017 : Underground Resistance "The Punisher EP"
   
label: UR
artist: Mad Mike and Jeff Mills
A side: The Punisher
B side: Method Of Force


UR020 : Underground Resistance "World 2 World" **2004 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Amazon - Jupiter Jazz
B side: Cosmic Traveler - Greater Than Yourself


UR021 : Interstellar Fugitives "Crime Report"
  
label: UR
artist: Marc Floyd, Perception and Mad Mike
A side: Afrogermanic
B side: Talking to Z - Mirage (Beat Vocal Mix)


UR022 : Underground Resistance "Death Star"
   
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Death Star
B side: The Force - Planet X


UR023 : Underground Resistance "Message To The Majors"
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Majors
B side: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Majors


UR024 : Underground Resistance "Acid Rain II: The Storm"
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Ain't No Sunshine - Acid Fog - Turbulence - Raindance
B side: Twista - Low Pressure Front - Atmospheric Disturbance - 
Rainbows Over Paradise



UR027: Vintage Future "Venomous EP"
    
label: UR
artist: Mark Taylor
A side: The Toxin
B side: The Charmer - Snake Talk


UR028: Galaxy 2 Galaxy "Hi Tech Jazz" **2003 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artist: Galaxy 2 Galaxy
A side: Hi Tech Jazz (original)
B side: Hi Tech Jazz (Live Version)
Original released on UR025, now UR028 is the only current pressing of 
Hi Tech Jazz.



UR031 : Dark Energy "Dark Paradise"
    
label: UR
artists: Mad Mike and Suburban Knight
A side: Dark Paradise
B side: Black Strategy


UR032 : Andre Holland "Inversions" **2004 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artist: Andre Holland aka The Infiltrator
A side: Inversions
B side: Beat Of A Cold Heart
Inversions was originally available on the "City Of Fear" ep, the song 
has been re-edited and re-mastered for this release. Previously only 
available through Submerge mailorder.



UR034 : Underground Resistance "Illuminator" **2004 Re-master**
    
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Illuminator
B side: Logic Bomb
Both tracks taken from 'Electronic Warfare' Double EP. Both have been 
re-edited and re-mastered. Previously only available through Submerge 
direct mailorder.



UR036 : Suburban Knight "By Night EP"
   
label: UR
artist: Suburban Knight aka James Pennington
A side: Echo Location - Bat Trance Edit
B side: The Warning - Nightvision


UR038 : Underground Resistance "Codebreaker EP"
    
label: UR
artist: Mad Mike
A side: Untitled
B side: Untitled


UR039 : Andre Holland "The Infiltrator"
   
label: UR
artist: Andre Holland aka The Infiltrator
A side: I'm In - They Will Never Know
B side: The Extraction


UR040 : Underground Resistance "Analog Assassin"
   
label: UR
artist: Underground Resistance
A side: Analog Assassin
B side: Subsonic Shadow


UR042 : Mad Mike "Turning Point EP"
   
label: UR
artist: Mad Mike
A side: Soul Circuits
B side: Spirit Caller
C side: Hi-Tech Funk (Sonic Grits Mix)
D side: First Galactic Baptist C

Re: (313) Subject Detroit previews

[jason kenjar]

Yeah, subject detroit can certainly pick the good artists. From the 
Godfather of electro juan atkins, to artists I've never heard of like 
Lohie. I dunno who he is but he showed up on this record ;)I like 
Lohies cuts too, lets hope he makes more stuff as well. bone says hes 
from the Philipines.


my question is which ones will be 10" and which will be 12"

-jason




On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 10:06 AM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:

yeh don't get me wrong they're both super dope. I wrote that last 
message as the second track was coming in. that release is my favorite 
from bone so far. having given the rest a listen, I'm not as keen on 
the dj lohie (who is he?) as i am on the two bone releases, but it 
still kills 98% of recent techno activity imo. but that's just me.


...soo edits? what edits?


Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems


 "Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing 
still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have 
to be about change."





-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 9:40 AM
To: Stoddard, Kamal
Cc: 313 List (E-mail); 'robin'
Subject: Re: (313) Subject Detroit previews


I'm still feeling both, darn fine stuff if you ask me - just
fixing me
some edits...

Cheers
Martin


On 29 Sep 2004, at 14:32, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:


OMFG!!!

I've only gotten through the first track of longevity 1 and I'm
floored. when the bass dropped I felt like jumping out of

my cube and

dancing like a manic freak!this is what techno IS! that vocal
snip. Jeez man it's so good to have Bone putting it down like this
again. I mean for me this is a deep techno blueprint. maybe

it's just

early though...nh! :) thank you robin. i really needed

this...bad.

Re: (313) Subject Detroit previews

[jason kenjar]

Damn right Stoddard,

This DJ LHOIE is fresh too! damn straight, Whats up!

Jesus Christ, Im like 5 seconds into sub 007 and am completely floored! 
Bone takes control.


STRONG  UPRIGHT!!

008 sounds amazing as well. Absolutely perfect. bone is on!

-jason  iowa city


On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 08:39 AM, Martin Dust wrote:

I'm still feeling both, darn fine stuff if you ask me - just fixing me 
some edits...


Cheers
Martin


On 29 Sep 2004, at 14:32, Stoddard, Kamal wrote:


OMFG!!!

I've only gotten through the first track of longevity 1 and I'm 
floored. when the bass dropped I felt like jumping out of my cube and 
dancing like a manic freak!this is what techno IS! that vocal 
snip. Jeez man it's so good to have Bone putting it down like this 
again. I mean for me this is a deep techno blueprint. maybe it's just 
early though...nh! :) thank you robin. i really needed >> this...bad.

Re: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678

[jason kenjar]

Im not sure where and when Alex got his info, but this is a "snip" of 
the press release that matt passed onto the list on June 22nd:


--
Kraftwerk " 12345678 - The Catalogue" will be available on September...
  
In a recent interview to italian newspaper La Stampa, Ralf Hütter 
confirmed release of Kraftwerk remastered albuns (12345678 - The 
Catalogue) on September, 2004.


They will be available in separated pieces and as a box, with the 
original artwork when they were first published.


The 8 albuns (Autobahn, Radioactivity, Trans Europe Express, The Man 
Machine, Computer World, Electric Cafe, The Mix and Tour de France 
Soundtracks ) will be published in CD and  vinyl, and later in Super 
Audio CD, in both English and  German versions.




It says vinyl right there, unless their plans have changed and I don't 
know about it. Alex?


-jk



On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 09:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be
available on wax?


Mike

I've been told this isn't coming on vinyl.
But I'm not sure if that means as a boxset etc, as I thought they were
doing the vinyls.
But, I did get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Maybe this is 
just an

EMI uk thing?
Or maybe the guy just didn't know.

Alot of use?!

Alex


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Re: (313) Octave One: The Theory of Everything

[jason kenjar]

First of all, A warm thank you to lady Adia for posting this! Posts 
like these are what keeps us on the inside track.


 List, your keeping very quiet on this. Follow the link and check out 
the audio samples...


So, What do you all think? I'm kind of on the fence.

Strenghts = It does sound very musical in a larger than life kind of 
way. I like how 0-1 really stab at those synth lines. Some of the 
effects are really interesting.


Weakness = Very clubby sounding, complete with excessive vocals and a 
knack for repeating chorus lines.  KSR "somedays" is on the album and 
I'm not into Lorne's material.  Did I also see Blackwater on that LP? 
jeesh. Enough already.


My two cents:

Over all, Im looking forward to the release, I certainly won't pass it  
without a listen. But from the few songs I have heard, as well as the 
recent eps, this release hasn't convinced me that its of quality equal 
to many of 0-1s previous releases, or the RNG releases (the live mix on 
the Mills DVD was incredible). "Perhaps" because the increased 
involvement of Lorne. Lorne was 9 years old when he watched his older 
brothers create Day by Day, it's obvious that the real talent flows 
within the older brothers. I'm not hating, but I just wouldn't put him 
alongside his brothers in terms of having the gift. At least not from 
what I've already heard by him, but maybe he'll surprise me on this new 
releases?  I still really hope Lawrence and Lenny go a few tracks alone 
on this one. I could use some new (old) Octave One ;)


Group hug for Aida for being on point!

-jason






On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 12:12 PM, Rebelbass/bookings wrote:



The new Octave One album is marvelous! But will not be released untill
januari 2005... Next saturday The Burden Brothers will perform live @ 
Fluid

/Effenaar/Eindhoven/ Netherlands. The full album tracklist + audio from
'Bout to Blow' and 'All2U' is now available on my weblog.
with permission from the dear brothers. scroll down for the audio
icon...(realplayer)

enjoy. I do!

aida
rebelbass

http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=19114127

(313) loosefingers vs loosefingers 2

[jason kenjar]

My opinion,

There isn't anything wrong with the oosefingers ep pt. 2, but its just 
"ok".  Is it something special in my opinion, not really. But the 
loosefingers ep (part 1 if you will) is a deep house jewel. I even 
wrote a review just for this list about. Larry Heard is certainly a 
fantastic producer of deep house, and it really comes through on the 
first "ep"


-jk



On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 01:45 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote:



On Sep 17, 2004, at 4:31 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote:

The new Abe Duque stuff is about as pure as the original stuff,
as is the new Loosefingers release.


I like the Abe Duque, but is the Loosefingers release all that?  What 
label again?  I seem to remember hearing and kind of thinking 
'eeehh'...  maybe i should give it another shot, you know how 
quick needle drops at gramaphone are  (overpowered thru the phones by 
flaccid 'silky deep house' on full blast on the store speakers)   :P


peace
--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

Re: (313) DJ Bone List

[jason kenjar]

hello big-mouth Martin ;) and fellow list members-

If i can snap up a promo or not, it doesn't really make 'that' big of a 
deal because he has been releasing on the regular. Im just eager to get 
his new stuff because everything he makes is pure gold, and I remember 
the time when it was much harder to get his material.


much respect, we cool.
-j

PS> Also REALLY looking forward to the new release by hieroglyphic 
being on the axis sub-label. Elektrabel. I can only imagine how great 
it could be.






On Thursday, September 16, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Martin Dust wrote:


Nope, Satan rejected my soul, he's met my kind before :)

I think it's one of those list where you should ask - but I've no idea 
how it works, each company has their own policy I guess...


Martin


On 16 Sep 2004, at 14:59, jason kenjar wrote:

damn you DUST!  Did you sign a deal with the devil to get in contact 
with bone? I've been trying to get on his promo list for a while, but 
I think he forgot to add me.


your freind
jason

Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?

[jason kenjar]

You get what you pay for with Newmark ;) I would not recommend them if 
quality is a concern. But they are wallet friendly, not a bad idea for 
starting DJs who really need money for records.


I had their first model of direct drive turntables.. they felt like a 
pair of playschool "My first DJ" toys. Yeah, they could do some cool 
tricks like +10 / -10 and backwards, but that aint chit when precision 
and durability is what truly matters with in tables.




On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 09:20 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:


http://www.fastcashpawn.com/ebay/pic7992a.jpg

ive got one of those. the crossfader doesnt work anymore,
contributing to my no longer using them when i deejay. im sure
this mixer isnt why i suck. it was really cheap too. ive had it
since 1998, its played many parties, raves, etc.

tom

-- Original Message ------
From: jason kenjar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Tue, 14 Sep 2004 20:57:37 -0500


My mixer of choice for now is the pioneer 600. Im familiar with

it,

I've got one, and I love it. Some of the features are handy as

heck,

especially when you want to boost the over-all volume of a record

thats

got a quiet cut,  like old Kraftwerk records for example. I can

bump

the bass on computer world! I would say the range of volume the

mixer

allows to move around in is fairly large, and its for the better

unless

you got some nitwit redlining everything.

You mention quality is a big factor in your choosing mixers? Im

pretty

big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and

whatnot,

but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a

half.

One of the little auto quantize buttons isn't as sharp as it used

to

be, thats it.

I know some people say it doesn't have the warmth. I wont

disagree.

I've heard warmer sounds, but like I was saying, I fluctuate

between a

lot of different styles, so that range of volume the pioneer

produces

is worth it.

Plus, Pioneer has a reputation. While Im anxious to try new

mixers,

Technic turntables and a Pioneer mixer is a tried and true

combination.

At least you know you will get quality as opposed to blowing all

your

cheese on the newest thing only to then find out it has some

awkward

design flaw or something. I've seen that happen before, not

pretty. Why

not stick with what has worked before is my opinion as of now.

 I realize this kind of thinking can be looked down upon in a

community

where progress is imminent and people are always looking for the

next

new thing. But I spin vinyl on Technics, and in my personal

vision,

that combination stands alone. I guess the world of mixers is

give and

take, but until I find a mixer that blows away the pioneer in the
aspects I listed above, I'll stick with it.

Sorry to get going on the 313, i'll get back to my one or two

line

"this record rocks" reviews next time, but I hope you liked my

opinion.

If anybody reading this in the Iowa  City (midwest) area has a

favorite

mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just
holler!!

-jason

PS> The best thing you can do for a mixer is not buy crappy,

boring

records and force the mixer to play them.

now playing - dan Bell remix of john tejada's music for

doubles...talk

about warm sound...this record rocks ;) laters










On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Simon Hindle wrote:


I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the

A&H

mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are

the

most
indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound
quality.

Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly

looks

more rugged, and finally combines features from all the

previous models

into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather

than

'engineer-style' fader knobs...

If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super

hot.


I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with

those

dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of

durability.

That
new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function

seems

interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all

about.


Get an A&H 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play

on it

:)


Ronny Pries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am >>>

xone 62 or 92.

:)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi mates!

which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4
inputs and most of all: great survival potential=)


../z99










andythepooh.com

Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?

[jason kenjar]

Like I was saying:

Im pretty big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels 
and whatnot, but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a 
year and a half...



then I said:

If anybody reading this in the Iowa  City (midwest) area has a 
favorite mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. 
just holler!!


I'd of course be easier on your rig :)  Guess I kind of shot down my 
chance, huh?


- flying J

NP: Akufen- My way LP - Force Inc. Thanks to Akufen for releasing this 
LP. Amazing ... period

Re: (313) DJ MIXER: what would be your choice?

[jason kenjar]

My mixer of choice for now is the pioneer 600. Im familiar with it, 
I've got one, and I love it. Some of the features are handy as heck, 
especially when you want to boost the over-all volume of a record thats 
got a quiet cut,  like old Kraftwerk records for example. I can bump 
the bass on computer world! I would say the range of volume the mixer 
allows to move around in is fairly large, and its for the better unless 
you got some nitwit redlining everything.


You mention quality is a big factor in your choosing mixers? Im pretty 
big guy who more that occasionally strong-arms the levels and whatnot, 
but its held up near perfectly after daily abuse for a year and a half. 
One of the little auto quantize buttons isn't as sharp as it used to 
be, thats it.


I know some people say it doesn't have the warmth. I wont disagree. 
I've heard warmer sounds, but like I was saying, I fluctuate between a 
lot of different styles, so that range of volume the pioneer produces 
is worth it.


Plus, Pioneer has a reputation. While Im anxious to try new mixers, 
Technic turntables and a Pioneer mixer is a tried and true combination. 
At least you know you will get quality as opposed to blowing all your 
cheese on the newest thing only to then find out it has some awkward 
design flaw or something. I've seen that happen before, not pretty. Why 
not stick with what has worked before is my opinion as of now.


 I realize this kind of thinking can be looked down upon in a community 
where progress is imminent and people are always looking for the next 
new thing. But I spin vinyl on Technics, and in my personal vision, 
that combination stands alone. I guess the world of mixers is give and 
take, but until I find a mixer that blows away the pioneer in the 
aspects I listed above, I'll stick with it.


Sorry to get going on the 313, i'll get back to my one or two line 
"this record rocks" reviews next time, but I hope you liked my opinion. 
If anybody reading this in the Iowa  City (midwest) area has a favorite 
mixer, i'd like to be so bold as to ask if I may try it out. just 
holler!!


-jason

PS> The best thing you can do for a mixer is not buy crappy, boring 
records and force the mixer to play them.


now playing - dan Bell remix of john tejada's music for doubles...talk 
about warm sound...this record rocks ;) laters











On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 07:55 PM, Simon Hindle wrote:


I've heard plenty of reports questioning the durability of the A&H
mixers (well, the 62 and the 464) - apparently the Pioneers are the 
most

indestructible, but don't have anything approximating the sound
quality.

Perhaps the 92 has got these issues ironed out - it certainly looks
more rugged, and finally combines features from all the previous models
into one unit, as well as having 'DJ-style' fader knobs rather than
'engineer-style' fader knobs...

If you can manage without linear faders, the Rane 2016 is super hot.

I do like vestax mixers as well (I REALLY like the PMC-250 with those
dual EQ's), but don't know how they hold up in terms of durability. 
That

new PMC-CX looks pretty nifty; the master isolator function seems
interesting, though I don't quite understand what it's all about.

Get an A&H 92 though. And let us all come over and have a play on it
:)


Ronny Pries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15/10/2004 7:57:43 am >>>

xone 62 or 92.

:)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi mates!

which DJ mixer would u recommend for a club? it should have 3-4
inputs and most of all: great survival potential=)


../z99

(313) (old) new records

[jason kenjar]

Yep, he rereleased 1 and 3. He will be releasing some previously 
unreleased basic bastard as well, which is very lucky for us all. Too 
bad they don't feature the great artwork that Dadara did for Spiritual.


Orlando Voorn's style is timeless. What a musician!

-jason K

that new convextion stuff! >



DL Minto wrote:


the new Ignitor(s) sound
hot especially since I think some of them are older or
(unreleased) tracks that possibly came out on
Spiritual

(313) Direct Beat records.

[jason kenjar]

Hey list-

I have been looking for more Direct Beat Records, and I would like to 
locate more. If anybody has any DB records in reasonably good 
condition, please hit me off list ASAP with the titles you'd be willing 
to sell and I'll offer a generous price.


Thanks list. I really appreciate the help. Have a good day.

- DJ Jason Kenjar
Iowa City, IA

PS> I'd also desperately seeking the Elecktroids double on Warp! If 
anybody has a copy or knows someone who would be willing to part with 
it, please get in touch. Thanks Again!

(313) Electro Wax

[jason kenjar]

Hey, whats up people?

This list gets quiet on the weekend, good time to start a new 
discussion.


Any newer 313 style electro going around that I should listen to? Let 
me know if there are links where I can listen to samples.


peace

Fwd: RE: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix

[jason kenjar]

Sure nuff Ja'maul!

Afraid I cant help much with a tracklisting. But that material is hot. Does 
anybody have a clue what those tracks are? I wish Hood and Mills would get back 
together for just a little while, imagine the possibilities... Until then 
uncovering gems like this will have to do.

Thanks Ivan! 

jason


 
On Wednesday, August 18, 2004, at 10:19AM, Redmond, Ja'Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>Isn't it awesome? 
>
>Man I wish I was there, I haven't heard a set like that in ages. 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:12 AM
>To: Redmond, Ja'Maul
>Cc: Ivan Tomasevic; 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix
>
>This mix is killin it!   Im working on a tracklisting... but what is
>thisfirst track? huge! 
>On Wednesday, August 18, 2004, at 09:17AM, Redmond, Ja'Maul
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> this is an Awesome vintage mix,, thanks. I wish I knew what those 
>>tracks were myself.
>>
>>I'm surprise someone on 313 posted this. This type of techno is usually
>
>>looked down upon on here.
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Ivan Tomasevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:46 AM
>>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix
>>
>>
>>at the bottom of the page
>>
>>
>>http://www.ump3.de/content/livearchiv.html
>>
>>
>>or direkt link for download
>>
>>
>>http://www.simple-answer.com/DJmix.mp3
>>
>>
>>it would be nice if someone could compile a tracklist for this mix
>>
>>regards
>>
>>ivan
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

RE: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix

[jason kenjar]

This mix is killin it!   Im working on a tracklisting... but what is thisfirst 
track? huge! 
On Wednesday, August 18, 2004, at 09:17AM, Redmond, Ja'Maul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> this is an Awesome vintage mix,, thanks. I wish I knew what those
>tracks were myself.  
>
>I'm surprise someone on 313 posted this. This type of techno is usually
>looked down upon on here.
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Ivan Tomasevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:46 AM
>To: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (313) UR Label night @ Limelight NY 92 [Hood + Mills] mix
>
>
>at the bottom of the page
>
>
>http://www.ump3.de/content/livearchiv.html
>
>
>or direkt link for download
>
>
>http://www.simple-answer.com/DJmix.mp3
>
>
>it would be nice if someone could compile a tracklist for this mix
>
>regards
>
>ivan
>
>-- 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

(313) new AXIS sheeeeeeeit

[jason kenjar]

What's the good word 313!

Hey, who has heard AXIS 40 yet? Who has heard the three new 7 inchs on 
the website. Can anybody give an opinion on those records, or link me 
to a sound clip.


I really dont mean to sound like an ass, but I must declare This is NOT 
an invitation to start a new thread about your 2 cents on jeff mills. 
Lets keep it strictly wax on this one. I thank you all ahead of time.


all you keepin it real... continue to do so! You know how it goes. yeah 
yeah!


-jason

(313) new der zylkus

[jason kenjar]

hey folks-

	Just listened to the new der zyklus *teaser* at Formic website.  Im 
not feeling those tracks at all. But if you like your other zyklus 
records as much as I do, you will probably want to listen anyway.
	Has anybody heard the new album in its entirety? Has any of their 
older material found its way on the new album? In that case I would 
certainly give it a listen.Im crossing my fingers, but Im not to 
pleased from what I've heard.

(313) do not hate on discogs

[jason kenjar]

Pardon me "Mr. taylor", but I dont see how somebody who spams the list 
daily with one or two quick sentences of  over-simplified arrogant 
generalizations has the guts to call the discogs website "sh!t". Im 
just one of the many free users and am not affiliated with the site by 
any other means, but I still have to stand up for them if you feel it 
necissary to besmirch their name.


Discogs has been very helpful to me in the past.  I can only recollect 
a fraction of the many times I have found discogs to be totally 
helpful. Knowledge is power, and there is a lot you can learn if your 
are willing to spend some time researching discogs. its also totally 
free, you dont even have to be a member to search its information 
libraries.


And is it so unthinkable and unforgivable that there would be spotty 
information about Basic Channel?  I consider myself a fairly well 
informed member of the under ground community, and even i think all the 
basic channel records look alike. Artists like von oswald arent about 
advertising themselves nearly as much as you do for yourself.







On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 09:36 AM, Robert Taylor wrote:


Discogs is sh!t and there's loads of inaccuracies.

Re: (313) 3 Chairs - Chicago

[jason kenjar]

Hey, I'll add a little to the  review as well...

backstory: I was in town and happened to check my email earlier that 
day @ the public library to find out the three chairs were playing only 
four or five hours later downtown. My source of into? The 313 list!  
keepin on yo!


My friend and i got their early, almost the first people down there @ 
10:30 or so. Marcellus Pitmann was spinning, I guess he must have been 
standing in for Malik Pittmann who was a no show??  haha..just kidding 
matt.. Anyway, Marcellus was playing  nice groovy midtempo house stuff. 
I didnt recognize the tracks, but I liked them a they were certainly 
proper tracks to be opening the night with. Seemed like a nice guy too, 
but we didn't talk long.


Rick Wilhite is a great Dj as well. As he played the place was slowly 
filling up. He played more mid tempo house as well, but also dropped in 
some other great stuff. He did a couple of very tight mixes from house 
into broken beat detroit, and right back again in an interesting 
manner. It can get kind of sticky some times if a DJ cant make their 
transitions in a manner that makes sense for both the mind and the 
feet, but he did it. I had the pleasure of meeting both him too, he is 
a hell of a nice guy.


I wasnt sure if it was ricks last record, or theo's first but somebody 
dropped fix-flash...thats a good way to become my friend if anyone is 
interested. One part voorn, one part beer... and mix   yep :)


I think Matts description of the rest of the night is accurate enough 
so I'll leave it at that.  We left around 3:30 just to beat the rush. I 
cant believe how late chicago bars stay open... or how crazy the 
streets are at that hour.


later yo





On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote:

Detroit imports 3 Chairs destroyed Smartbar on saturday.  Got there I 
guess after midnight and Theo Parrish was playing when i got there 
really pounding disco and jack-y raw classic chicago trax and heavy 
percussive disco and as usual EQ boosting and killing every track to 
within an inch of it's life.  This can sound silly when you hear his 
mixes at home, but on a packed sweaty dancefloor people were going 
ballistic for it, and I was lapping it up.  At times looked like he 
was having a seizure behind the decks and the energy was emanating 
outwards... the floor was full early.


Then Moodymann took his turn sporting a freaky halloween mask, his 
afro all blowed out huge, and it was a Rick James (R.I.P.) love fest.. 
he started with 'You and I' and played it start to finish,  then later 
'Cold Blooded' (god i love that percussion on a big system) and lots 
of cool disco, also Moscow Discow, rolling stones 'Miss You' (!), the 
3-Chairs 'Theme' (also featured on their new 3xLP which is great, 
BTW)... prince - controversy (w/ everyone singing the "people call me 
rude, i wish we all were nude" part,  hah), anyway if you like dirty 
disco and detroit house and occasional italo and dusty dance oddities, 
these guys deliver.  Though I usually have no idea what these guys are 
playing, KDJ seemed to stick to some of the more recognizable cuts but 
this was fine with the crowd to be sure.  The crowd was whooping big, 
etc. when new tracks where dropped and it was fun to have that kind of 
a basement house party atmosphere, oozing sweat and spilled drinks 
everywhere, haa.   Unfortunately i had to leave before Rick Wilhite 
and Malik Pittman got on the decks.   I have heard sometimes these guy 
just play slower dusties and downtempo soul/funk stuff all night, but 
on saturday it was all about he energetic dance cuts and that was 
great to see.


Also i think the fact that The Reader FINALLY game someone decent the 
'critics choice' regarding dance music didn't hurt attendance

http://www.chicagoreader.com/music/critic.html#FDIXON


peace

--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

(313) For the sake of humanity

[jason kenjar]

Im willing to fly over to the UK  and arrive to the  party wrapped in 
dynamite if we all cant work it out and end this god damn thread.



On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 11:02 AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Boy this is going to be a fun party!


MEK



  "Thomas D. Cox,
  Jr." To:   
<313@hyperreal.org>

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc:
  h.com>   Subject:  Re: (313) 313 
Tenth Anniversary Party


  08/06/2004 10:35
  AM
  Please respond to
  death






-- Original Message --
From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


oh, and tom.


eat a dick, will you?


well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep
down your throat

tom


andythepooh.com

Re: (313) New Moodymann

[jason kenjar]

Are there any real good new house cuts on that moodymann? or is it the 
improv-jazz thing...?



On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 10:18 AM, David Beattie wrote:


Since noone else has mentioned it (I guess Alex must
be on holiday after all;-) the new Moodymann album on
Peacefrog seems to have hit the online stores in the
UK, its on boomkat anyway

im off for the weekend now, have a good one everyone

Cheers
BT

Re: (313) Abdul Haqq interview online

[jason kenjar]

thanks for the informational post. He has collaborated with a lot of  
good labels so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.


On Friday, August 6, 2004, at 02:26 AM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote:


Hi,

I am sorry to be so extremely on-topic but we have an interview online  
with someone who is actually from Detroit :)


Abdul Qadim Haqq is as many of you know responsible for the artwork on  
labels such as Underground Resistance, Red Planet, Southern Outpost,  
Planet E, R & S, Infonet, Eevolute, Apollo, Tresor etc. He also  
painted in the infamous murals on the Transmat and Submerge buildings.
Further more he is also behind the writings on Underground Resistance  
as The Ancient. It is about time we had this chat with Haqq.


You can read the full interview here:

http://technotourist.org/ 
modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=4 
8


Or go to http://technotourist.org and go from there

Enjoy!


kj at technotourist dot org

(313) old moritz project...

[jason kenjar]

hey folks.

has anybody heard of an old thomas felmann / moritz von oswald 
combination known as marathon?  are their records as good as their 
'later' works, or were these more of a prototype?/


j

Re: (313) LD/313 Party Pics

[jason kenjar]

Hey,

Who dat sporting the record collector tee??? thats like 5 blocks from  
my house.


you london kids are a damn strange bunch


On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 10:56 AM, KiDDy*RaVeR wrote:


Here are the few ones ive taken :
http://www.kiddy.fr/313
As you can see its fuzzy, not really centered, and im sorry for red  
eyes !

Actually i even have some short movies, cause ive messed up mind a lil
bit...so ive switched my camera to the wrong mode  :)
Anyway, sailing all night long through the city and dancing on thoses
beautiful beats made this night a magnificent party to me.
Thanx everyones.

- KiDDy.


- Original Message -
From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit"
<313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: (313) LD/313 Party Pics


This is a better one:
http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0004.JPG
Thank for not putting up the close-up of my sweaty face, Brendan.
I like how moody all the DJs look, cos they're having to deal with  
jumping

needles on a boat.
-Original Message-
From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:25 PM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: RE: (313) LD/313 Party Pics


Here are a few IDs for anyone who wants to put some names to
faces:

http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0012-guy_on_decks.JPG
 - Guy Thackeray

http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0022-orang_nicole_2.JPG
 - Nicole Slavin and Robert Taylor

http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0023-ryan_dj.JPG
 - Ryan Blackman

http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0031-julian.JPG
 - Kiddyraver (aka Julian from Paris)

http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0033-suzy_anya.JPG
 - Anya Stang (on the right)

http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0009.JPG
 - errr... this is me, unfortunately

http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0012.JPG
 - Dan Butler

Brendan


-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 August 2004 15:18
To: diana potts
Cc: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) LD/313 Party Pics


I thought about it D, like for 23 seconds and then sat back
down - I'm
still broken.


On 3 Aug 2004, at 15:07, diana potts wrote:



very nice pictures...I felt like I was there.
is it possible to get some ID's on them?...I recognize
Mr.Watkins and Mr.Dust...any other 313'ers that can be
spotted?

with my eyepatch on.
d


--- Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


top marks to Mr Thackeray for some quality outfit
and beardage.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 August 2004 14:48
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: (313) LD/313 Party Pics


http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/1
http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/2
http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/3
http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty
http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/photos.html

Cheers
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Re: (313) octave one

[jason kenjar]

I havent had the chance to see RNG live, but their segment in mills DVD 
was hot as hell. It was in the  purpose maker mix, far and away my 
favorite set jeff spun on the DVD. merci!  bravo!



On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 06:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Seriously rocked it on Saturday at fabric,

Seen RNG a couple times but never octave one; and it was superb.
Convinced some friends who had never heard of them to come along and 
they

where completely blown away.
Obviously when they played Blackwater they all said "they made this?
hh "

I just jumped around like a drunken muppet with a large grin on my 
face.

Cracking

Legs started to turn to led half way through Rolando's set but still 
really
enjoyed it. But I'm sure it only just about makes up for not going to 
the

boat party.

Back in London Djing in Islington on the 28th then going to the
www.tdkcrosscentral.co.uk stuff on Sunday
PAPERCLIP PEEPZ !!!

Good month ahead!

Cheers

Max

Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Sex Party

[jason kenjar]

i think this just furthers my notion that all
stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it
out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the
sexual tension overwith already and just go for it.




Why not have both at the same time!!  Call 319-721-5364 for a good 
time! Operator is standing by (ladies only)

(313) new 430 west

[jason kenjar]

Anyone else feelin this??  Energy like  only RNG! o1 is back and 
serious.


 Think this means we'll be lucky enough to see some of the 
previous releases repressed?

(313) Subject detroit: Juan atkins

[jason kenjar]

What a seriously great cut. Subject Detroit is one of my favorite 
labels to resurface lately. Props to Bone And Juan.


-jason

(313) Good akufen pick

[jason kenjar]

hey list-

A while back i asked what akufen has been up too.  A few people on the 
list mentioned his Blue rmx of Plej was really good. I followed it up 
today and its a great track indeed.I've only heard a sample but it 
seems like it has great potential.   thanks to all who suggested it.

Re: (313) robert hood

[jason kenjar]

How was robert hood? Did you recognize what he played?

Oh yeah, does anyone know if hood plays live?













Rob Hood played a stormer on Friday, Jeff Mills didn't show, lost his
records...

Martin

(313) Sunday afternoon deathbed question

[jason kenjar]

Ok.

If you died today and had arranged for your cremated ashes to be 
pressed into a record, which one would it be??


Drew= Final Frontier

MEK =  Larry Heard Alien Lp

Me= Wave Jumper


keep em coming!!

(313) gooooood morning 313!!!

[jason kenjar]

List-

Kenny Larkin in Iowa City last night rocked it like nobodys business. 
He played a very interesting set of techno. I described it to a friend 
as an interesting blend of underground harder techno, but damn if i can 
name or remember any of the records he played. Never boring. Never old. 
And he mixed very well, i really like his approach to mixing.


oh yeah- he doped fix flash and did all these these great beat matching 
tricks, then a huge well timed back spin to get out of it.  Good to be 
alive folks.


Special thanks to list members Drew and "Mike-Mike-Michael Knight" for 
spotting me some drinks and money at the bar and ordering pizza when we 
got home.  may god bless and smile on both you too.


-jason out 
  

Re: (313) FNAC

[jason kenjar]

Thats a very impressive lineup Placid.

I have been able to track down a few you have listed and like them a 
lot. There is a purple double pack that has a live version of Acid 
Eiffel, it's cool to hear the different take.  There are a few good 
tracks on that ep. The FNAC crew put out some good music indeed.




On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 11:05 AM, placid wrote:


Aurora borealis wa amazing.
Deepside - tolerance ep and the double pack.  I'm not sure if I have
'seclude'
Laurent garnier - A bout de soufflé  wake up
Modus vivendi - modus vivendi
Shazz - lost illusion
Ln's - good for me no good for me dub
St germain - motherland ep
Soofle - nouveaux ep
Laurent garnier - planet house double pack
Choice - obviously that ones in there
Dave angel - new orchestration
Deep contest - riposte p

I was on the ball when they came out :)

Re: (313) buzz comp - panic in detroit LP

[jason kenjar]

Buzz went out a long time ago, but somebody has been making 
legit-looking bootlegs. More than likely its a bootleg just like the 
other two.


On Friday, June 25, 2004, at 01:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  question : is that "panic in detroit" LP at submerge the real deal, 
or is it a substandard boot?  I've had the CD comp for some time, i 
would just love to spin teh vinyl versions of some of these tracks.


cheers,
lrh

Re: (313) Suburban Knight, Orlando Voorn, Derrick May

[jason kenjar]

Three Techno Gods, two nights, one club. Zero chance of me getting to 
the D.


3 more excellent reasons i need to move about 500 miles east of where i 
am right now. If anybody near woodward chooses not to go to this event, 
count on a free kick in the junk from yours truly!


hugs and kisses, should be off the hook!

-jason


On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, at 10:57 PM, Matt MacQueen wrote:


FRIDAY JUNE 25
OSLO
10pm-3am

JAMES PENNINGTON aka The SUBURBAN KNIGHT (Underground Resistance)
ORLANDO VOORN (Submerge Recordings, Transmat, Underground Resistance)
---

this SATURDAY JUNE 26
OSLO
10pm-3am

DERRICK MAY (Transmat)

DIRECTIONS + INFO: http://www.soft-curls.com
(313)963-0300
1456 woodward, between john r. &  grand river


peace
--
Matt MacQueen
http://SonicSunset.com

Re: (313) Movement MPGs Online

[jason kenjar]

 Props to drew for shooting the Amp Fiddler show, and many other that 
weekend. He 'captured' the atmosphere of the show very well  (excuses 
for my love of puns). The audio and video turned out very well, so i 
would advise 2 peek it if U can. The soul is all there!


Drew shot about 15 hours worth of festival, thereby tearing down the 
wall dividing those who were fortunate enough to make it to Movement, 
and those that couldn't be there to enjoy everything firsthand. Lets 
all hope he finds additional bandwith to post up some more videos.


 Thanks again Drew.  D.Daugherty 4 president!

-jason

On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 10:19 AM, Drew Daugherty wrote:

I have posted some MPEG files I made from my Movement footage online 
on soulseek. My id is drewid_mn.  I think I put amp fiddler, orlando 
voorn, and kai alce out.  My apologies since my bandwidth is extremely 
low and the files are huge.  I may just do mp3s as an alternative in 
the future.


Jason and I watched some of the amp fiddler footage last weekend when 
he was up for the Claude Young show.  That breakdown on 'I'm Doing 
Fine' is just mindblowing!  One of the high points of the festival for 
me personally...


-drew

Re: (313) New Transmat website

[jason kenjar]

The Transmat site looks very nice. My favorite parts are Derrick's 
photographs, the list of up coming releases, and the looped sample of 
Luciano's forth coming EP on Transmat. You have to search to find it, 
but It sounds great! check it out.


-jason




On Saturday, June 5, 2004, at 09:37 AM, kj at technotourist dot org 
wrote:


Finally there is a new Transmat website, it took some years to build 
apparently but it is here now at: http://www.transmat.com/


Looks nice :)

(313) RE: Don't forget to Perlon

[jason kenjar]

Note: After a few close listens, i found that parts of the record tend 
to drag a little if you aren't reading along with the song. Its still 
hot, but I would recommend finding the juicy bits of the record where 
the synths really kick in before you play it out. You'll know what I 
mean once you listen. The drum programming is very tight, but at times 
I yearn for a few more keys and a little less talking. I would like to 
revoke my placing it as one of the best eps in the past few months. I 
still think its entertaining, what really excited me is conceptual idea 
of creating short stories to music and vice versa. I think thats 
amazing :)


Sorry about my contradicting emails list, I'll be sure to get a nights 
sleep before posting anymore emails 'beaming' with used car salesmen / 
obnoxious drug dealer hyperbole !  (sorry for the double post Simon ;)  
)


Be on the lookout for Isolee's remix of "cardiology" on playhouse. 
great stuff



jason

(313) Don't forget to Perlon!

[jason kenjar]

What's up? I'll tell ya whats up!

The Narcotic Syntax on Perlon! It's nothing short of amazing! Please 
take my word for it and pick it up on sight.


Its a really unique combination music and poetry and story.  Get this, 
all the poetry in the music has been printed on the inside paper sleeve 
to read along as you listen. Here is a little snippet of narcotic 
poetry which explains their work- its on the sleeve too:


" All notes of this daring construction are formed out of the remnants 
of a music culture from the last white spot on the jungle map. Every 
single sound has been placed into the composition by laborious, 
time-consuming manual operation. The arrangement is not from this 
world. The groove orbits around your own passion. The rhythm wins the 
fight of love for detail. "


If you don't already want to run out and listen, don't let rely on 
on-line samples or a quick stop at the record store to make your 
decision for you. Take it home and read the poetic stories as you 
listen.


My pick of the friggin' year so far, and what an amazing 5 months it 
has already been! Its a really good time to like electronic music, 
folks.


-jason

Re: (313) burial mix reply

[jason kenjar]

Thanks Alex, but finding these records locally would help. I suppose an 
order from Hardwax is inevitable sooner or later, no hurry.


As far as future Rhythm & Sound Projects...uhh sure Alex...

I have lived in and around the middle of nowhere USA for the last 24 
years, but I'll go hook up with my buddy Moritz to see whut's happenen 
down Btown! Cant get him to stop talking about his up coming projects 
actually.


You need anything from Saint Nick while I' m at it :)   I think Andrew 
mentioned something about Bigfoot and the easter bunny


-jason







On Thursday, May 27, 2004, at 10:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I never see them around here, does anybody know who in the midwest USA
stocks these records on the regular?Seems like everyones got the LPs
but the 10"s are scare.


I can't help there I'm afraid Jason, but maybe a good idea if you want 
to

get them all in one go would be to order them from here www.hardwax.de

they are still available over here. let me know if you have a problem, 
I

could probs suggest a couple of shops you could order them all from.

btw, while we're on the subject, it's been a while since the last one.

is that it finished now? or are there more in the pipeline?
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Re: (313) burial mix reply

[jason kenjar]

On Thursday, May 27, 2004, at 09:30 AM, Andrew wrote:



Anything is possible with those guys, perhaps they have a
type of vinyl pressing machine that could save me the trouble and money
of shipping the little records in from all over the place?  nah...not
this time

Mate, not this or any other time! You're talking about physics. It's 
simply

not possible to have the same sound on a 5-track 12" side as it is on a
one-track 10" side. I mean, just look at the things side-by-side - 
they are
physically very different. It's like expecting a guitar the size of 
your arm

to sound like a Strat.


Just knit picking here, but these pressings have 4 tracks per side. I 
knew it wouldn't be the same as my normal pressings I buy (1-2 a side) 
but i was hoping that 4 tracks, each off a 10" to one 12" would not 
depreciate too much beyond what I was used to, but it did.
I can only thank the laws of physics for that. What's with mother 
nature and all her stupid laws anyway.


My opinion is that I really like single-piece LPs, and they are a rare 
thing

these days. You lose amplitude (volume), but you gain a nice 'item'.


My biggest disappointment was when I found out they were pressing 8 
tracks on one record. It so happens I'm missing every release on the 
LP. If it was a double Ip could have used that to complete my 
collection in two foul swoops. my pov!  I have seen a lot of hip hop 
single LPs around though if that fits your bag



Worth
it, for me. The 10"s are still being pressed, so what's the problem?



I never see them around here, does anybody know who in the midwest USA 
stocks these records on the regular?Seems like everyones got the LPs 
but the 10"s are scare.



Best,

Andrew


PS. Happy birthday.


thanx

Re: (313) burial mix reply

[jason kenjar]

First of all-  for all those interested in the Burial label and are 
considering investing in the Artist's / Version LPs  -


I headed to the record store the other day where I listened to a short 
sample of the first two tracks on the artist's LP. I could tell that 
the sound was very clear, but it lacked the overall power of monster 
deep compressed bass being pumped through the speakers. Within 20 
seconds I was totally convinced that the LP just gave up too much of 
what I loved in the burial sound.


If you just want the songs (I like most them! ) on vinyl for a cheap 
rate and/or you aren't up for searching out the individual 10"s, get 
the LPs. But it just kills me to pay a shade under $40 for two 12" 
vinyl's of second generation Burial material with the crust already cut 
off. I'd rather keep looking for those 10" records with the magical 
pressings, rather than a crowded LP with a weaker press.


Going into the record store with this on my mind, I wasn't expecting 
the LP pressing to be exactly the same as the 10", but how close would 
it get? This isn't a small time, nickel and dime record label (bless 
them !), or some crazy rouge bootleg squadron. Moritz and his 
mysterious entourage have proven themselves as a combination of 
successful business people, gifted artists, and technological 
innovators. Anything is possible with those guys, perhaps they have a 
type of vinyl pressing machine that could save me the trouble and money 
of shipping the little records in from all over the place?  nah...not 
this time



happy birthday to me
may - 27 -1980


 ][ ][



peace out.
-sent






Morning Sherlock

; )

You forgot to add "the bass is not as deep and the kick is not as hard 
on
the LP because the grooves are tighter together and they had to be 
adjusted
at the mastering stage because if the bass and drums remained at the 
same
level on the LP, the record would skip all the time as the needle 
wouldn't

be able to track the groove properly"

or something.

sorry for being rude, I don't mean it, just a lil drunk from last night
still, nowt personal.
I'm gonna terrorize everybody today.

Alex


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(313) burial mix reply

[jason kenjar]

In answer to my own question I posed yesterday about the quality of the 
burial LP pressing, the bass is not as deep and the kick is not as hard 
on the LP. Sound quality on the 10"s are better.


-jason in iowa

Re: (313) Burial mixes

[jason kenjar]

Wait a minute...

I love the burial mixes for many reasons, among them is their 
incredibly deep reverberating, yet astonishingly precise bass lines and 
percussive patterns. Yet, I find myself missing 3 or 4 of the Burial 
10"s I'd really like.  Turns out that the Burials happen to be pressed 
on a 2 different single album LP formats, with 4 tracks per side. Thats 
good news, unless of course, the grooves are too crowded, which often 
is the case when people opt to press LP's on one disc instead of 
multiple discs. Crowded grooves can cause all sorts of sound quality 
problems including a diminished low end sound , but Im sure most people 
here already know what over crowding can do to sound quality. I've 
learned this lesson the hard way times and ended up unsatisfied with a 
particular pressing.


Ken, on a personal tip. I might be dumb as a rock and equally 
untalented, ask anyone :) Don't patronized me while you are trying to 
invalidate my curiosity in the same breath. My concerns are valid for 
the content which this community is based upon.


So, once again list readers. Anyone care to contrast / compare the 10"s 
vs. the LP formats of the burial label, especially the level of the 
bass lines and kick drums? Please do so very critically as i would if i 
could.


- S.I.I  Somewhere In Iowa




On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, at 06:42 AM, Ken Odeluga wrote:


Jason,

No offense, but do you think your obviously very high intelligence and 
no

doubt talents too, could be better employed than checking the relative
compressed-sounding qualities of the kick drums of different editions 
of the

same release ?!?!

;-)

Peace,

Ken


-----Original Message-
From: jason kenjar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Burial mixes


hi 313

has anyone noticed if the kick drums on the Artists/Versions
compilations sound as deep or kicks as hard as they do on the 10"s? 
I'm

kind of picky, so listen carefully if you can and tell me what you
think.

-jason

(313) Burial mixes

[jason kenjar]

hi 313

has anyone noticed if the kick drums on the Artists/Versions 
compilations sound as deep or kicks as hard as they do on the 10"s? I'm 
kind of picky, so listen carefully if you can and tell me what you 
think.


-jason

(313) paging /0 joe

[jason kenjar]

please report to the principal's office with your current email addy:

-j