Re: [313] Axis
http://www.axisrecords.com Kevin www.mp313.com --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I need the site address for Axis records please. Thank You, Five - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ableton Live
Believe it or not, some people don't use pirated software on principal, particularly from small, or new companies. It's true for me (for small/new companies). I had the choice between using a cracked copy of FMHeaven or paying $70 for it, and I decided to pay for it because the developer is just one individual who was extremely helpful and courteous while I was testing the demo. Although I have been guilty (like most) of using cracked copies from big companies. If I love a particular program I wind up eventually buying it. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ableton Live
I bought a Lexicon MPX-500 for $500, and 2 weeks later they dropped it to $400. I went back and they credited my card $100 for the difference. You gotta love that. Their customer service is the best, I pass right buy Mars Music on the way to GC every time because Mars' service sucks. Kevin --- The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, I called my local guitar center, and they quoted me $200 over the phone for Live. I left immediatly to pick it up, and then when it rang up at $350, I forced them to give it to me for $200 anyway. I'm amazed at how this store is willing to lose money over and over again because of their own mistakes :-) Good customer service though. I also got a vopy of recycle 2 from them for $60. jim - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: RE: [313] Ableton Live although i'm not 100% against software piracy, please remember that ableton is a VERY small company right now, and live is their first piece of software, and its a great piece of software, and its only been out a couple of months, and they need the fucking money. Live is a really innovative piece of software, from what i have seen and heard the last couple of months it is really worth it's money. Why not spend 350$ for a unique piece of software, it's really usefull and it's timewrap function is amazing and really don't think this list is the place promote and distibute pirated software. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313]How much Guitar Center Rocks
Whenever I go in, I print off the listing from their online affiliate, musiciansfriend.com, and they always match the price. I save on shipping and get it the same day. Also, my friend from Oshawa, Canada came down and they didn't charge him tax because he wasn't from this country. Kevin --- Josh Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:11 PM 2/1/2002 -0500, The Deliverator wrote: Heh, and they do it a lot. I ordered a massive omnirax mixing station from Went in to buy a few things (mic, some speakers, and speaker stands). The guy who helped me find things gave me the speaker stands for free, because I was buying so much other crap. Admittedly, only about $120 out of $1000 I did spend, but still pretty nice on his part. Josh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ableton Live
Someone previously stated that Monolake in fact did not write it. I don't know myself though, maybe he helped develop it the way Richie helped with Final Scratch. I've had a few people try to convince me Richie created Final Scratch by himself (and then rested on the 7th day) ;) Kevin www.mp313.com --- JL Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ableton Live is definitely on my list to purchase. A friend of mine told me that it was written by monolake? (dunno if that's correct - I do believe that's what I heard) Jim J. - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:07 AM Subject: RE: [313] Ableton Live although i'm not 100% against software piracy, please remember that ableton is a VERY small company right now, and live is their first piece of software, and its a great piece of software, and its only been out a couple of months, and they need the fucking money. Live is a really innovative piece of software, from what i have seen and heard the last couple of months it is really worth it's money. Why not spend 350$ for a unique piece of software, it's really usefull and it's timewrap function is amazing and really don't think this list is the place promote and distibute pirated software. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] re: Ableton Live
After that: Since the company started, more than twenty developers and merchants have joined Ableton--many of them active musicians or djs--whose link is the common goal: To develop good software for music I guess they're not alone on the project. Kind of like Bill Gates with Microsoft/Windows. Kevin --- The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stright from their webpage: The company was founded, among others, by the Berlin-based computer music project Monolake in fall 1999. Since their beginning in 1995, Monolake have always written their own programs to realize their vision of sound and structure. They have performed live electronic music in clubs and concert halls around the globe, so it comes as no surprise that Ableton's first product offers a solution for live performance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
25 yrs. old Born in Rochester, NY - Moved to suburban Detroit about a year and a half ago. Electrical Engineer for GM I have turntables, but don't use them as much since I started writing my own stuff. It's now a passionate hobby of mine. Joined the list a bit after I moved here, I mostly lurk. I've met some really cool people through it though. Kevin www.mp313.com --- T.J.Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The Future of Detroit
It will be good to see what a fresh young mind will bring to the table. Our last 2 mayors have put the city in the position it is now. It's a shame and a disgrace, it really is. What did the last 2 mayors do? Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UR question
I believe it's called Rings of Saturn. Kevin --- Bill VanLoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - A friend of mine had the following question for me, which I don't know the answer to: techno question: do you know which UR/X-102 record it is that has the sample of the guy talking about the big bang, that starts off: four and one-half billion years ago, the planets were formed in a great cloud of swirling gas and dust alan oldham/t-1000 used to play it on wdet, but i don't know the name of it... ? Thanks, Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org january 23 - live gig with telefon tel aviv and maersk as part of audiofold at the blind pig, ann arbor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Help!
Are you living in a house, because your home owner's insurance should cover it the way it would cover your TV or stereo in case of fire/theft/etc. If it's an apartment, you should be able to find an insurance company somewhere to set up a policy. If quarterbacks can get their arms insured for millions, someone should be able to cover a few turntables. Kevin --- DJdMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 313 People, Ok, I am trying to get insurance for my equipment and my State Farm Agent said it is not covered. The thought of losing my 3 1210s and records etc to disaster scares the hell out of me, but, not getting anything to replace it all with? That frightens me worse that the thought of death (sorry satin). So, anybody know who I can call up to get something setup for my equipment? Thanks, Tom./ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://www.mp313.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] NYE letdown
--- Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motor was completely full. And off the hook. There was too many people IMHO. 20 min. wait at the bar, 20 min. wait for the bathroom, 30 min. wait for coatcheck, plus the drunken fools. A very intoxicated girl decided to pick a fight with mine and Dennis' wife, which caused us to leave right at the beginning of Scan 7's set. But the music was great which made it worthwhile (Gabe Real w/ an oldskool electro set :) Does he always play that?), although we'll probably stay in next year. Kevin D -Original Message- From: Samuel Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] NYE letdown i am not sure if this has already been discussed, but i thought that this NYE was sub-par. I went to porter street. the line-up had shaped up to be awesome with boo wiliams, glenn underground, minx, rick wilhite, and waxmaster d smooth. i thought the music all night was awesome. i also thought that rick wilhite was amazing. but there were only 35 people there (max). maybe ten people at the most danced all night. the ball drop moment was much like a premature orgasm...you were happy it happened but wished it would have happened differently. i do have to give props to porterstreet, they had great dj's, a buffet, good sound, and still the stiffest cranberry and vodkas known to man. I just have one question...WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE PEOPLE WANTING TO PARTY? was it like that at other clubs across the city and country? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] NYE letdown
Heh, I should check my grammer next time. Replace wife with wives so Dennis doesn't get offended ;) Kevin --- Holly MacDonald-Korth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin wrote: girl decided to pick a fight with mine and Dennis' wife you two share a wife? how forward thinking of you... here in utah we share husbands. D -Original Message- From: Samuel Hobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] NYE letdown i am not sure if this has already been discussed, but i thought that this NYE was sub-par. I went to porter street. the line-up had shaped up to be awesome with boo wiliams, glenn underground, minx, rick wilhite, and waxmaster d smooth. i thought the music all night was awesome. i also thought that rick wilhite was amazing. but there were only 35 people there (max). maybe ten people at the most danced all night. the ball drop moment was much like a premature orgasm...you were happy it happened but wished it would have happened differently. i do have to give props to porterstreet, they had great dj's, a buffet, good sound, and still the stiffest cranberry and vodkas known to man. I just have one question...WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE PEOPLE WANTING TO PARTY? was it like that at other clubs across the city and country? -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://www.mp313.com/kevinconrad.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT detroit resource needed
You can get some at Home Depot. My friend did his whole basement for under $20. I don't know if it's fire retardant though, which may be an issue if it's for an event. Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the way off topicness of this email, but I'm looking for a source in Detroit for large rolls of black plastic. I was hoping someone up there would know where to buy it who may have thrown a party in the past. Send me an email if you've go any info. thanks dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] emagic logic and cpu's
Yes, logic works with AMD, although emagic have optimized it for the Pentium chip. Try subscribing to 313techknow at yahoo groups, it's an offshoot of 313 for gear talk. Kevin --- Mark Khemma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people, does anybody know if emagic logic and NI reaktor work with AMD processors? i know that this isn't rave/micro/techno related, but i figure that some of you people use these programs, or at least i hope you do. could you please help a brother out? muah, -mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere
It's not just you. The excessive use of caps was a hint, but signing off as Mills gave it away. Kevin --- Fixer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it just me, or does it seem everyone who responded to Chris missed the seemingly obvious sarcasm in his post? I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? -- fix.er \'fik-s*r\ n : one that fixes : as : one that intervenes to enable a person to circumvent the law or obtain a political favor : one that adjusts matters or disputes by negotiation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Axis 09
More Drama is actually Axis 006 which replaced Drama (older Axis 006). Axis 009 and 009B are just untitled releases. I have 009B and I think it's worth it. I'm not good at track descriptions so I'm not going to attempt :) I beleieve 009 is much harder to find than 009B, which you might still be able to get at recordcollectorinc.com (I got mine from there). Kevin --- Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Which one do you mean? There's a Axis 009 and a Axis 009b... Axis 009b is released much later and is called More drama. If you are Mills-addicted like me ;-) I think you need them both. Not the best releases of him but worth a check in every case! Cheers, Arne james boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is Axis 09 by Jeff Mills (originally distributed only via Hardwax in Germany apparently) worth getting? Track description/rating anyone? _ -- °° Arne Weinberg GROUNDZERO Rec. / STARBABY Rec. / PROPAGANDA Rec. °° °° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New purpose Maker?
Groovetech has it listed with samples for each track. I like what I heard, I think I might pick up a copy next time I'm out. Kevin --- Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks. Any suggestions on the new purpose maker 12? Haven't got the chance to listen yet! cheers, Arne -- °° Arne Weinberg GROUNDZERO Rec. / STARBABY Rec. / PROPAGANDA Rec. °° °° - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Desperately Looking For 2000 DEMF Poster
Try contacting CPOP. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bought a 2000 DEMF poster from them at this year's DEMF, they may still have some left. Kevin --- Joel Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Can any of you decent folks point me in the right direction? Ciao Baby, Joel Fernandez - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
the 909 is a great tool to make a track, but it doesn't make a track by itself. i'm sorry, but those damn handclaps and snares do sound old after about ten seconds if there's nothing else happening in the 'song'. That's why I get bored when he bangs away on it. I need to feel a bassline when I'm on the dancefloor. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
Could you see Jeff Mills drop a MP3 track and then accidently take the FinalScratch record off the deck and throw onto the floor behind him...or into a bin with tons of other scratched up records? OOOPS! That's a final scratch if there ever was one. Also, since I believe FS only handles one mp3/wav track at a time right now, with current releases handling 2, dj's like Mills will still need vinyl for working on 3 decks. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about the low quality of MP3's. Kevin --- M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the most part (because we have already seen the effect of Napster on the music industry). We must include one more particularily special point. MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192 sounds shoddy on the extreme low end and extreme high end. MP3 is a compression algorithm which lops off the signal at the extent of the human hearing range (ie 20, 000 Hz but most codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the sub-extent of human hearing (around 20hz but again most codecs lop off around 100Hz). When listening at home this isn't so bad since most in home stereo systems already reduce extreme low-high end by means of a crossover either in the speaker itself or digitally in the amplifier. At the club however the is no roll off, and things like these become more apparent. Worse is the fact that despite our inability to hear these frequencies, we can hear the harmonics that they create with frequencies we do hear. Moreover even without knowledge the producer of the track may have utilized those particular harmonics. With MP3 those will never be heard. I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same system, and to be honest unless you have a good soundcheck and all your files are recorded and EQ'ed properly beforehand, your set will sound lackluster. MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound great, the higher the better, but they take up more room. As we progress into a generation where physical memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will become more viable. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i think the idea of this technology is fantastic. however, what i am wondering is what this is going to do to the independent record label industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't currently affect them as much as it does the major record labels. but what this is going to do is discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is how i see it.) all you have to do is basically find a track online or find a friend with that record and rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of producers to not make any money. i wonder how much people are going to start fighting within the dance music community after this becomes readily available. i personally think that final scratch is going to be pretty popular and that after it gets some more attention, it's going to be utilized by more and more people, especially after they see that it works so well. it's just also a question of people supporting their artists and buying the vinyl still. (which is something that i would still be doing if i really really wanted a certain track...it would cause a lot less of that h why did i buy THAT? syndrome that i occasionally get here and there if i used final scratch and just had an mp3 of the track.) i dunno...i'm just going to sit back and watch and see how people start changing their minds on the mp3 argument when it starts affecting THEM. -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
Since high quality waves (24/96) will be big files, there's less of a chance from finding it on a P2P file sharing program. So people downloading a track someone made could be stuck with a low quality mp3 since that's all that might be available. In contrast, if FS is popular and they like the mp3 they downloaded, they could buy a CD at their local record shop that contains the track in wav format. With harddrives getting faster, bigger, and cheaper, it's feasible. Just a thought though. Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment if you like, and then play that digital recording out. only consideration is file size. so technically finalscratch could sound better than records ever did. as for independent labels and distribution, a) this won't happen over night - vinyl production isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and b) sooner or later digital music distribution will finally dump its two left feet and figure out a way a safe and efficient way to work. seems so ironic that all the hard to find music we buy is almost exclusively on vinyl, when it started out as a digital master. artists need to be paid for their work, but in what format we receive it shouldn't matter. people seem to have gotten used to CDs just fine... plus, if music got cheaper due to the reduced distribution costs, there's a very good chance people would buy a lot more of it. i know personally there's tons of housier records that i ignore every month because it's just not in the budget. this also has huge implications for all the tiny, regional labels out there around the world that very few people get exposed to. At 6:53 AM -0700 8/15/01, Kevin Conrad wrote: Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about the low quality of MP3's. Kevin --- M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the most part (because we have already seen the effect of Napster on the music industry). We must include one more particularily special point. MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192 sounds shoddy on the extreme low end and extreme high end. MP3 is a compression algorithm which lops off the signal at the extent of the human hearing range (ie 20, 000 Hz but most codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the sub-extent of human hearing (around 20hz but again most codecs lop off around 100Hz). When listening at home this isn't so bad since most in home stereo systems already reduce extreme low-high end by means of a crossover either in the speaker itself or digitally in the amplifier. At the club however the is no roll off, and things like these become more apparent. Worse is the fact that despite our inability to hear these frequencies, we can hear the harmonics that they create with frequencies we do hear. Moreover even without knowledge the producer of the track may have utilized those particular harmonics. With MP3 those will never be heard. I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same system, and to be honest unless you have a good soundcheck and all your files are recorded and EQ'ed properly beforehand, your set will sound lackluster. MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound great, the higher the better, but they take up more room. As we progress into a generation where physical memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will become more viable. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i think the idea of this technology is fantastic. however, what i am wondering is what this is going to do to the independent record label industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't currently affect them as much as it does the major record labels. but what this is going to do is discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is how i see it.) all you have to do is basically find a track online or find a friend with that record and rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of producers to not make any money. i wonder how much people are going to start fighting within the dance music community after this becomes readily available. i personally think that final scratch is going to be pretty popular and that after it gets some more attention, it's going to be utilized by more and more people, especially after they see that it works so well. it's just also a question of people supporting their artists and buying the vinyl still. (which is something that i would still be doing if i really really wanted a certain track
Re: QRe: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
I think that's due to the fact that their budget in production/engineering/marketing of a CD is more money than we'll ever see :) Someone writing and mastering their own stuff won't have that problem. Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i should also add, just to counter myself, that the greatly reduced distribution costs idea might end up being a big lie anyway. it sure was with the switch to CDs. we'll see. At 7:31 AM -0700 8/15/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: exactly.. you can record to a pristine digital 24/96 environment if you like, and then play that digital recording out. only consideration is file size. so technically finalscratch could sound better than records ever did. as for independent labels and distribution, a) this won't happen over night - vinyl production isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and b) sooner or later digital music distribution will finally dump its two left feet and figure out a way a safe and efficient way to work. seems so ironic that all the hard to find music we buy is almost exclusively on vinyl, when it started out as a digital master. artists need to be paid for their work, but in what format we receive it shouldn't matter. people seem to have gotten used to CDs just fine... plus, if music got cheaper due to the reduced distribution costs, there's a very good chance people would buy a lot more of it. i know personally there's tons of housier records that i ignore every month because it's just not in the budget. this also has huge implications for all the tiny, regional labels out there around the world that very few people get exposed to. At 6:53 AM -0700 8/15/01, Kevin Conrad wrote: Final Scratch can also play wav files, so someone using FS doesn't necessarily have to worry about the low quality of MP3's. Kevin --- M. Todd Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with what Lauryn has said for the most part (because we have already seen the effect of Napster on the music industry). We must include one more particularily special point. MP3 Quality at less than a bit rate of 192 sounds shoddy on the extreme low end and extreme high end. MP3 is a compression algorithm which lops off the signal at the extent of the human hearing range (ie 20, 000 Hz but most codecs lop off around 16, 000), and the sub-extent of human hearing (around 20hz but again most codecs lop off around 100Hz). When listening at home this isn't so bad since most in home stereo systems already reduce extreme low-high end by means of a crossover either in the speaker itself or digitally in the amplifier. At the club however the is no roll off, and things like these become more apparent. Worse is the fact that despite our inability to hear these frequencies, we can hear the harmonics that they create with frequencies we do hear. Moreover even without knowledge the producer of the track may have utilized those particular harmonics. With MP3 those will never be heard. I've heard both MP3's and vinyl on the same system, and to be honest unless you have a good soundcheck and all your files are recorded and EQ'ed properly beforehand, your set will sound lackluster. MP3's with a bitrate higher than 192 sound great, the higher the better, but they take up more room. As we progress into a generation where physical memory is no longer an issue I'm sure this will become more viable. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: miss lauryn g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] ANyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT) i think the idea of this technology is fantastic. however, what i am wondering is what this is going to do to the independent record label industry. use of mp3s right now doesn't currently affect them as much as it does the major record labels. but what this is going to do is discourage buying vinyl. (at least that is how i see it.) all you have to do is basically find a track online or find a friend with that record and rip an mp3. it's going to cause a lot of producers to not make any money. i wonder how much people are going to start fighting within the dance music community after this becomes readily available. i personally think that final scratch is going to be pretty popular and that after it gets some more attention, it's going to be utilized by more and more people, especially after they see that it works so well. it's just also a question of people supporting their artists and buying the vinyl still. (which is something that i would still be doing if i really really wanted a certain track...it would cause a lot less of that h why did i
Re: [313] Equipment Trade
http://www.harmony-central.com has trades in their classifieds, but I'm not sure if you'll find that many people trading away an SL1200, most are probably trading away gear. http://www.sonicstate.com might give you better luck. For other gear questions, you might want to join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Kevin --- Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I apologize if this posting is considered OT. Does anyone know of a site where I could list an instrument for trade? [i.e. Roland mc303 groovebox] I am desperately trying to get my hands on another SL1200. If there is any information you can e-mail me privately or berate me in public. Your choice. on now : stasis-inosphere save the vinyl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UFO / 4 Art
I don't think it's a misprint. 4 Art is the name of the track on the Other Day ep and on his cd The Art of Connecting. UFO is also on the CD. I don't why he'd re-release 4 Art on a new EP, maybe he's broke or something ;) Kevin --- Stewart Moroney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all My copy of 4 Art contains a previously released track (from The Other Day ep), are they all like this or is mine a misprint? Stewart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Move over HPDJ
This was lifted from a BBS, so I don't have a link to the original article: DJ Robot Turns the Tables By Katie Dean A professor at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute is the man behind DJ I, Robot, which is the first random-access, analog robotic DJ system. It's made up of a computer and three turntables that can mix, scratch, cut, and beat-juggle like a human disc jockey. It's a new means of composition and competition, said Chris Csikszentmihalyi (pronounced chick-sent-me-hi), an electronic arts professor at RPI. What's really been fun is coming across really strange sounds that you're not expecting to and deciding that it's not really a negative, but a positive. The machine is hardly musical or expressive. It doesn't have a collection of old records it likes to scratch up. But it can spin platters up to 800 revolutions per minute, compared to 45 RPMs by a human hand. To create the new mixes, 80 breakdance songs were pressed onto each record. The location of each musical element -- such as a particular measure, beat or audio sample -- is indexed on the computer. Programmers mix tracks by dragging-and-dropping each element into a timeline on the computer, then an analog motor spins the platter at the programmed speed and direction. The computer controls the manipulation of the tracks, but the motion is analog. The platter moves as if a human hand were guiding it, but with superior technical precision. Yet it's the human quality that counts in the artistic process, said one DJ. What separates different DJs from each other is how they choose records to mix together, how they mix them, and the kind of tricks they do when they mix them, said Paolo, a DJ who has played jungle and hip-hop clubs in Washington D.C. and New York. A computer is not going to know how to do that. It's missing the inspiration, Paolo said. There's only so much you can program. Would he jam to the mixed beats of DJ I, Robot? That wouldn't interest me at all, Paolo said. That's not the point. There's a certain amount of personal expression going on when you mix records. That's what you're there to see or hear. DJ Qmaxx420 had a different reaction. Bring it on, man! I think it's a great idea, said Qmaxx420, a professional DJ who has played clubs in New York, Germany, London and Tokyo. I think that can be fun and entertaining. It was inevitable that this was going to happen anyway, he said. This is the future. Qmaxx420 said that DJ I, Robot might have some unexpected benefits. Some DJs don't like to spin first or last at clubs, so DJ I, Robot might be a good opening DJ. Also, because the machine has no emotions, it would never feel like it's selling out. Maybe record companies could use it to promote new songs, he said. Csikszentmihalyi admits the machine has its limitations. It doesn't have taste and it doesn't have a sense of music, he said. There's no algorithm for funk. We're faking the funk. Nevertheless, Csikszentmihalyi hopes DJ I, Robot will be able to outperform any human DJ in three or four years. So far, the machine has battled several DJs and has a losing record. It's kind of a remake on the John Henry competition, Csikszentmihalyi said. That's why we've been calling it the DJ killer app. The system has already received international attention. DJ I, Robot was a finalist in the Berlin Transmediale, an international juried competition for software art, and it's performed in a Berlin nightclub, at a street party in Boston and a warehouse party in Brooklyn. The machine will tour Europe this summer. http://www.dj-i-robot.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] bone
Jay Denham was amazing at the underground stage. I also caught the end of his set at Treatment last night, and again it was phenomenal. I hope he comes to town again soon. Kevin --- Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I wouldn't put so complete a slam on it, I *would* say that Jay Denham's set underground blew it away completely. I was hoping for more from Bone. jeff At 09:14 AM 5/28/2001 -0400, Dharma Fowler wrote: unfortunatly i have been unable to make it to the demf, but i was wondering what people thought of bone's set. a friend of mine told me it was horrible replete with lots of cheesy buildups, but i always hear about how good he is. any opinions? -Dharma - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Parking at DEMF
Does anyone know about parking this weekend? I'll be driving down from Southfield, and I was wondering if there's an organized parking situation or if it's just a free-for-all. Thanks in advance. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Parking at DEMF
I went to the Travel section of demf.org hoping for some details on parking locations, and they were nice enough to give me a link to mapquest. How nice of them ;) Kevin --- Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My basic formula is : Try the Ford garagetry the Cobo Garage...then (as a last resort - it's expensive!) try the Ren Cen - that is, if you don't want to hassle with looking to see if there's anything down on the river or in various parking lots. If anyone has better Ideas, I'm all ears. jeff At 10:18 AM 5/25/2001 -0700, Kevin Conrad wrote: Does anyone know about parking this weekend? I'll be driving down from Southfield, and I was wondering if there's an organized parking situation or if it's just a free-for-all. Thanks in advance. Kevin __ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] wtf????
I've been getting that lately every time I post to 313. I've just attributed it to a server hiccup, but who knows. Kevin --- dan ito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who in the hell is this?? detroit techno,LearnLink (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name has been entered correctly.) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] the stupid letter i got from carol marvin.
It's better than the I'm out of the office until Tuesday letter I got. :) But yeah, it sounds like the kind of letter a commitee of PR people wrote up collectively. Kevin --- lauryn goller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah. sounds like a prefabricated form letter to me. doesn't really *address my concerns* whatsover. ugh. lauryn. -- Original Message -- From: Carol Marvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:51:56 -0400 Hi Lauryn --- Thanks for your interest in the festival. You obviously care about it and the music scene a great deal. Please come and enjoy the music from the over 80 artists that will be performing as well as all of the great on-site activities. Hopefully, you will still have a good time. I can understand your concerns, but if you don't like the DEMF production in some way, let me know specifically what you'd like to see and our artist advisory board will listen to what you have to say so that you can assist us in furthering the event next year. Thank you for taking the time to let us know how important the DEMF is to you. Carol Marvin -- ** nothing is an end because it can always be used as a basis for something new and different. -keith haring ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] rob hood at motor
Just line up at the door. Try and hit up Detroit Threads beforehand. On certain nights Motor has passes that get you in free before 11 that you'll find at Threads (maybe Recordtime too). Kevin --- Dharma Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody know how i get into motor for saturday nightdo i have to buy tickets ahead of time or just line up at the door? thanks. dharma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] websites with dj sets -recommendations please!! :)
http://www.paxahau.com http://www.betalounge.com Those will keep you busy for awhile :) Kevin --- J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally am allowed to use a sound card at work...so please..tell me any sites that have good dj sets to listen to...I know you all have great taste in music..so I would really appreciate it!!! Thanks much!! -Jill ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Help! How do I get tix for the tronic treatment party during DEMF in advance???
I called Record Time in Ferndale on Friday and they didn't have any tickets, nor were they expecting any. I'd call Threads, but I have to find their number first. Kevin --- Lorie R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get them in detroit @ record time.. or some other record store there when you get there... OR email Viktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will get you one personally. That goes for anyone else wondering also. Lorie - Original Message - From: J S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Help! How do I get tix for the tronic treatment party during DEMF in advance??? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] in support of Carl
Or you could slap a planet E sticker on the bumper of every Ford Focus you see :) Kevin --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well there's always planet E stickers you can slap on the front of a shirt.(speaking as some one who doesn't own a planet E T shirt) d --- M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't have a Planet E shirt but you can be damn sure I'm gunna buy one once I land in the D. Plus, hitting the 10 year anniversary party! MEK From: diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: enlighten 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] in support of Carl Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) I am saying this in the most non-political way I can...which is hard. What would happen if we started a bit of a underground resistance of our own. I'm not down with boycotting the festival but what if those who had planet E Tshirts wore them say on Saturday or Sunday..one day in particular in support of Carl and saying in a silent way that as a community we support him and recognize all this won't damage him or his career in anyway possible. just an idea-it's not meant to take one side or the other or fuel anymore drama...just tossin' it out there. peas d __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
But who will be on this commitee, and who will choose those people? Marvin said the role of creative director will be filled next year by an advisory board made up of artists and others in the Detroit techno industry. That's still sort of vague. I can think of other commitees that aren't so good, like the people that choose the Grammy awards. Wasn't it the Beatles and Led Zeppelin among others that never received one? And I remember Jethro Tull winning best metal (or was it hard rock) album over Metallica one year. There's politics involved there I'm sure, and I'd hate for the same happen to the DEMF committee. Kevin --- Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was thinking about his whole advisory committee thing. maybe its not a bad idea. lets look to other areas of the world that use committees to choose. the NCAA and the basketball tournament selection committee begin with parameters for who should make it into the tournament. each member of the selection committee has different ideas and are fans of different teams. however when the committee meets, they use their collective opinion and ideas to select the teams. i think that the artistic worth of future demf line-ups would be better with a committee that represents detroit as opposed to the (right or wrong?) opinion of carl craig. just my opinion...no harm no foul -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] carl craig asked to step down!
talking strictly as an outside observer looking in, i'd say there's been a lot of politics involved already, whether just one individual or a commitee. True. Imagine the politics involved with a 20 or more person committee with multiple sponsors. yikes :) Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] CKDK club plans...
It will be more than just a club, it will be a super entertainment complex I don't know why, but that just sounds funny. I'm picturing Dunk the DJ right now :) Sounds like a cool idea though. Isn't the Guvernment in Toronto like that, multiple rooms with different DJ's/genres? I've never been there myself, but friends have told me it's pretty nice. Kevin --- Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detroitfreepress.com/entertainment/music/rach11_20010511.htm _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] OT? (808 Question + Detroit)
Gear questions are best suited on the 313techknow list. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/313techknow But while I'm writing this, I might as well give an answer. I just purchased an sp-808 for $599 at zzounds.com, it was a sale so I'm not sure if the price is the same. It's not the sp-808EX, but it's pretty close (100MB zip as opposed to 250MB zip). There's also a way to upgrade the sp-808 OS to the sp-808EX OS and install the 250MB drive, making it like the EX. I like the 808 alot, I had a Korg ES-1 beforehand that I'm selling right now (I'd keep it if I were rich). Having a zipdrive is great, and it's pretty easy to use. The only drawbacks are 4 note polyphony (which can be alleviated by combining 2 samples into 1) and the 3 control knobs for effects don't send midi out which is somewhat annoying when used in a studio. Otherwise I love it. But I wouldn't pay $1200 for it. Kevin p.s. The Kooky Scientist gives it the thumbs up along with Sean Deason who owns 2 of them. --- Fred Lopster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am considering purchasing an Roland 808 Groove Sampler and was wondering if anyone can clue me in as to whether or not $1200 is a reasonable price (brand new). I was also wondering which artist, Detroit in particular, currently use 808's in their setups? Any other feedback on the 808 would be greatly appreciated as well. Thanks! -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Real audio 2 CDR(was online mix track id)
I just got done copying a real audio mix to wav for burning to a CD. Under the Volume Control in the system tray, I selected Option-Properties-Recording, then selected Mixed Output and hit OK. I checked the Selecet box under Mixed Output and used Soundforge to record the wav file while the Real audio file was playing. Hope this works for you too. Kevin --- dan ito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my thoughts exactly.. From: Matthew L. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Real audio 2 CDR(was online mix track id) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:35:13 -0500 If you can locate the URL that links you directly to the .ra file itself, you can type the location into your web browser and download it onto your hard drive (unless of course, it is cgi-based, as someone properly pointed out... you could try it anyway to see if it works though). Downloading the .ram file (metafile) does no good, as this file simply tells the web browser to launch your realmedia player and then points the player to the actual location of the .ra file itself. You can download the .ram file (right click as save as) and then open it with Notepad, that will tell you the location of the .ra file itself. As far as burning it to CD, you'd have to convert the .ra file to .wav format... either the old fashioned analog way (speaker output to cassette deck or mini-disc or whatever, then back to the computer's hard drive via line input) or use a program like ra2wav that will do it digitally for you. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:59:41 +0200 To: =?iso-8859-1?B?SGFuc2kgR/znbPxlcg==?= [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Tourgelis [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org From: fab137 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: R: [313] Real audio 2 CDR(was online mix track id) This might be a stupid question but HOW does one download a realaudio-mix to the harddrive? When you open a RealAudio file a .ram file gets copied onto your HD, usually in your temporary internet files if youre on a pc. locate that file and open it in a text editor. there you should find the a link to the downloadable .rm file on the server. it doesn't always work but there's no harm in trying! BTW, if the realaudio feed comes from a .cgi (like betalounge) its not possible to do this.or at least i haven't found a way!! good luck fab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] mayday festival
Ermmm, who has this guy been talking to? I still have to read the article thoroughly, but I've found so much bullshit for now that I'm taking a break from it. I stopped reading after the Mike Banks part, I don't know if there's a reason to go back reading :) Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] more political crap from me (OT)
I laughed my ass of when I read that (in a black comedy type of way). I wish Bush would realize the US isn't king of the world. This is just a signal to him of that fact. Maybe in time he'll learn to work with the rest of the world, instead of trying to tell everyone what to do. But I doubt it. :) Kevin p.s. much appreciative of the info --- diana potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a lot of reactions from the first alike post(seems I'm not the only into (learning about)politics) so I thought I'd post this too. Basically, the US has been ousted from the UN Human Right's body-which it founded.Go Bush. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010504/ts/un_usa_rights_dc_5.html sorry. Diana __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] t-1000 last dj on earth
I just started listening to this last week, and that would explain the oddness in the mix. It starts out with tribal techno moving into a trance track, then moves onto old-school 303'ish techno all w/ just smooth mixes. The last old-school record fades out then spins backwards for a bit (kinda like when a new DJ comes on), then some bangin' swedish techno for the rest of the mix w/ all sorts of tricks (cuts, scratches, etc.) that I thought Sims was known for. That's the pain w/ Napster, you're never sure on what you're getting. Kevin --- Lorie R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Live @fuse ...find someone on napster that has it. I have heard rumors that part 1 is not him, but part 2 is. I *know* part 2 is his style, part one could be him also...who knows. Lorie - Original Message - From: tim maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Cc: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [313] t-1000 last dj on earth i don't know mr sim's style at all..but sounds good so far...anyone know anywhere i can hear or (preferably) download one of his sets? nothing on napster so far... - Original Message - From: Max Duley (ARCart) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Cc: John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [313] t-1000 last dj on earth In that case you should be looking out for 'Theory of Interpretation' mixed by Ben Sims. Now, I sticked out my head once on this list saying that Mr. Sims could beat Mr. Mills behind the decks resulting in a much too long thread... That's why I was a bit disappointed Ben didn't really mix the cd as furiously as he does when playing out. But, it still remains a very good cd for those who like loops and tools. No less than 33 tracks (incl. looked grooves) on there. The cd contains twelve new interpretations of Theory tracks and two unreleased tracks. The mixcd should be out mid May. It's a great CD, I like it a lot. I mentioned to Ben that I thought it didn't seem to represent his ability as a DJ, which as John says, are absolutely awesome, in fact I have never seen ANYONE with such complete and total control over 2 decks let alone the 3 that Ben usually populates so easily. He put me firmly in my place saying that it is not meant to represent his DJ skills, but to represent the Theory label. I think he's done that perfectly. He hinted also that there may actually be a Sims mix CD proper at some point. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] @tkins gets second chance
Here's a link from the Detroit Free Press: http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/demf27_20010427.htm Juan, Stacey Pullen, and Kenny Larkin have been added apparently. Kevin --- Samuel Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: earlier someone had posted something about juan atkins getting a second chance and then mentioned something about an interview that he gave before a party. did this person mean that juan is going to play at demf? if not could i get a clarification of what this person meant. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain))
Conform 12 - Lost Found EP is sweet too, there's one track with some really nice strings and a smooth bassline. Kevin --- dan ito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check out phases-brazen display and Christian Smith Stryke-Highrider, more quality releases from ab From: glyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: '313' 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Adam Beyer (RE: [313] numerous threads at once (swedes, t-1000, top 10, st germain)) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:22:23 -0700 Gwendal Cobert wrote: talking about surprising stuff from Beyer... that's how I would qualify his excellent Protechtion album, for example, some of the tracks there are much more complex than what he is best known for ! also, code red 9 and at least one of the earlier drumcode singles are both quite melodic, string-filled, and-- dare i say--detroit-sounding. glyn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Ordering Records On-Line
Groovetech is my favorite place. The records you see online are usually in stock, and it only takes 4 or 5 days to get them. I'd stay away from Sonic Groove. They never update their catalog so a lot of their stuff is not in stock, and they're super slow. I once ordered 13 records, and got 2 in the mail about a month later. Satellite records (www.satelliterecords.com) is pretty good because they update their site with new releases every week. It usually takes about 2 weeks for an order to be received. Also try www.611records.com. Their catalog tends to be little out of date, but not as bad as Sonic Groove's. My experience has been about 1.5-2 weeks for delivery. I just stick to Groovetech for the most part, and fall back on 611 or Satellite if I'm looking for something a little older that Groovetech doesn't have. Kevin --- nathan goode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi peeps Can someone give me some advice for buying records online, ie - which stores should i but from? i've bought from submerge before, but was wondering about other stores like groovetech, recordtime, sonic groove. i've seen listened to plenty of records from the groovetech site that i want to buy. how long does it take to receive the records once ordering how are they with postage? are there any other sites i should try? any help will be greatly appreciated. cheers nath - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Love Parade
I remember some people asking about the Love Parade, so I thought I'd share this info I found in Yahoo news: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010405/re/germany_parade_dc_1.html Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Last Night A Raver Broke My Tonearm
Ouch. Are we going to see a post on some BBS with the subject Last night a DJ broke MY arm? ;) Kevin --- Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm about half-way through my set last night @ a house party when this guy with *that crazy look in his eye* comes up to the turntables. I finished mixing out of a record and he was just about to put his finger on the record to stop it just as I grabbed it out from under him. As I filed the record away and looked for the next track I noticed he put his finger on the platter and stopped it. As I stood back up with the new record time slowed down. I watched this guy (who was in another world) grab the tonearm, and rip it off the turntable. He literally grabbed it and yanked as hard as he could. However, the tonearm did not completely detatch, the wires inside the tonearm were still connected to the headshell. This did not satisfy him. He gave another yoink and ripped it completely off. I think everyone who could see this happen that owns a turntable let out a horified gasp. As we all stood there in awe, someone eventually restrained him before he could pull the effects box down from on top of a speaker. As he was pulled away from the tunrtables he managed to say but I'm having fun. Talk about being upstaged... Despite having a third turntable there, the rest of my set suffered accordingly. Unfortunately, this turntable was on loan for the party. In the immortal words of Mr. Mackey, Drugs Are Bad, MmmK? Tristan -- http://www.mp3.com/stations/313 - Great music from around the globe http://www.mp3.com/Frogbot - My music http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - My newest music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, travelogue info [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared.
I've always found most tag team lineups to be a gimmick that promoters use to make their party look special. I know people who've been in tag teams where the promoter just slapped it together, and the individual didn't even know the other dj. I would think it would be difficult to create something unique in a set when you don't know what the other person is thinking. Kevin --- paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jesus, if he's this worried why is he even djing. and for a 'dj' to even ask other people what they feel he should play, well. - Original Message - From: peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [313] i have to dj and i'm scared. i don't understand the whole thing. i think doing a tag team requires that both dj's know each other very good and therefor also know the records of each other, or at least the style of each other. so why would you want to buy some new records specifically for this gig? just take some stuff with you that you like and you're familiar with. i can't imagine that it will work with trance anyway, but i'd be very interested to hear the result, so if it's going to be broadcasted or recorded, please let me know. peter - Original Message - From: Simon Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] : i need some suggestions for good traks to buy : as i have to do a tagteam djing thing with a : guy heavily into paul van dyk style trance : anthems. : bear in mind i haven't bought any new vinyl : for about eight months, anything deemed : essential from this time period would be great. : maybe someone who works in a shop (say, Record Time) : could advise me on all the new releases coming : out of detroit and the u.s. as i wouldn't want : to ignore those...:) : : and how the hell do you blend hands-in-the-air trance : with deepest detroit? : any suggestions please. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] Mills and the 909
get the jeff mills live at liquid room cd. extensive use of the 909 and performed very well. Do you mean Liquid Room 2000, because he doesn't use the 909 on the 1995 recording of the Liquid Room. I'm wondering what it sounds like and how it compares (sonically, complexity-wise, etc.) to Hawtin's use of it I have a handful of live mixes where he uses the 909, and I find his style tends to be a little groovier than Hawtin's pounding approach to it. I don't really have a preference though, both use it well from different angles. Kevin --- dj revolver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get the jeff mills live at liquid room cd. extensive use of the 909 and performed very well. From: Rhythm Droid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Mills and the 909 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:48:47 -0800 I have never had the chance to see hear Mills spin and utilize the TR-909 (or spin period, for that matter). Has anyone heard him do this (with the 909)? I'm wondering what it sounds like and how it compares (sonically, complexity-wise, etc.) to Hawtin's use of it. Any info is appreciated. Thanks! = ) Devon _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] Juan Atkins 7th Cancelled So Prepare DEMF Next
You stole my joke Dennis. Die you must now. I would like to know who's behind Detroit Is The Homeland, it's very funny. Kevin --- Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to know - Are you yoda? creates controversy he nice. good thing he in area for detroit soap opera yes. Sure sounds like the little green guy from the Dagaba system... Dennis (the bandwidth hog) From: DETROIT ISTHE HOMELAND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Juan Atkins 7th Cancelled So Prepare DEMF Next Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:05:41 -0500 juan atkins cancel for sure sorry now can create demf news. glad see hdn one creates controversy he nice. good thing he in area for detroit soap opera yes. was not ready for him be anonymous so good thing he let know in email. good thing he not go into drama cause I no read well but I hear it deep. also if calling to get refund or sausage kit remember number is 734-464-8447 so call lots. reply. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] LOVE PARADE: info needed IMMEDIATELY!!!
There's a tab where you can change the site to english. The latest press release said that some other organization has dibs on Saturday July 14 for the parade, and they're deciding on whether to have the Love Parade on Friday the 13th, Sunday the 15th, or try to combine the parade with the other groups event. Hopefully someone has more info, as I'd like to find out before I plan my trip to Germany in July. Kevin --- Rachael Ann Stiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually would like to know he dates as well since I will be interning in Germnay this summer. Also if any German 313ers have any suggestions about what to do/where to go while there please email me privately. I will be in Munich from mid June through early September. -Rachael On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, David Bitterman wrote: Hi! I'm subscribed to the digest, so if anyone could reply to me directly I would really appreciate it. Does anyone know the EXACT dates of the Love Parade 2001? I could ask a few Germans, but I need to know in the NEXT FEW HOURS, and I have a very early morning @ work already!! Every site I find is in all german! If anyone knows, mail me directly @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance!- D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
Re: [313] Plus_8 party on Friday
I'm willing to pick up tickets for ya. In honor of Ticketmaster, there will be a $10 surcharge ;) j/k of course, but let me know if you'd like me to grab 2 extra tickets. I'm going to pick mine up in a couple of hours, let me know by then if you can so I only have to make 1 trip. Kevin --- Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just spoken with someone from Record Time, that illustrated to me, the fact that all ticket purchases must be made in person, and cash only. There is a very limited number of tickets for the show (he said 400), and they are unable to hold tickets. Would anyone who is going, be gracious enough to somehow help my wife and I out, in purchasing tickets? We're in Chicago, which makes it rather difficult to get the tickets for Friday's show. Any other suggestions? Thanks for putting up with my garbage mails! Dennis Donohue PS - I spelled Firday correctly this time. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] site feedback required
I just browsed through the sight, and it's pretty nice. A little lacking in content, but being so new it's to be expected. The interviews are well done IMHO. It would look nicer to have them all listed in a pull-down menu under the heading Interviews, with the interview of the month listed on the front page right next to the menu. The soundbytes contest is tough, I recognize everything but have no clue as to the answers, I guess I'm just not old-skool enough ;) I would like to know #4 eventually. My one other critique - I'd like to see a different background color. Maybe it's just my old monitor, but it's a greenish-yellow, not the nicest of colors. Hope this helps. Kevin p.s. lookin' forward to the Dan Bell interview --- Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've been running www.worldtechnonation.com for 2 months now and am looking for any feedback in order to develop the site further. The site has recieved a good number of hits, but so far very few people have entered the competition. I know only a CD has been up for grabs the past 2 months, but other than that are the soundbites too obscure for many? Also any comments regarding the interviews and artists section would be most appreciated. Are there any artists or features people would like to see? All feedback to me privatley will be most appreciated Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Record shopping in Detroit
I hope it's still around, it's been a couple months since I've been record shopping. It's on Jos Campau, just south of Caniff which is off I-75. It's my choice of stores to go to, prices are nice, usually $8-$9 for imports. But bring your own headphones :) Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm does anyone if Threads is still around? Its half raver clothing/record store. Think its on Joseph Campos (sp?) St or Ave. Near Motor too. G. In a message dated 3/16/01 2:32:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure - there are: RecordTime - two locations - check out www.recordtime.com Neptune records is at 503 S Main St in Royal Oak, MI - check www.expediamaps.com for directions... Those are my favorites anyhow...there is Tron though too and some others I am sure you will hear about. -Dustin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Autecher @ DEMF
Just curious - where did you get this info? I hope you're not teasing me :) --- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just found out that they will be there for those who want to know things as early as possible... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.thedemonstration.com http://www.sphereproductions.com http://www.mannequinodd.com search djdarwin on napster - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
NBA basketball commercial
I was lovin' it, it made me think of something Aphex Twin would do, random noises slowly morphing into a nice rhythm. Kevin --- Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, did anybody see the new NBA basketball commercial with a bunch of players dribbling the ball rhythmically? i know this sounds kind of stupid, but the sound in that commercial wouldn't sound so out of place in a Plastikman set. seriously. Mike _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would you care to share those trade secrets? :) Kevin --- Hodgson, S. R. (Sean) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to say that i really enjoyed chatting with Mr. Mills yesterday and feel sorry for all who could not make it out or just choose not to come out. Well, at least i was able to ask him and find out how to get the watered down sound with certain filters that he seems to know how to twist and manipulate just so right in his music. Sweet for me in my music making!!! --end sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have gone to RT to have him sign my old Wizard mix show tapes. Rudy Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2001 11:25:54 AM To: Benjamin Cuthbert \(Merch\) [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Daniel E' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smelled great to me! Agreed! I had to get my From the 21st cd signed as well as get a picture with him which was most obviously the highlight :) I too was suprised that it was not more crowded for his appearance but at the same time I kind of liked the smaller atmosphere set by it. To all that will be at the state theater tonight I will see all of you there. Regards, Rudy __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sean HodgsonFuel Cell Program C264 Hydro-Cooling Designer Ford Motor Company, TH!NK2 shodgso2ford.com15000 Commerce Dr. North Dearborn, MI 48120, U.S.A. Phones:Desk(313)323.1033, Fax(313) 317-4758 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, if you give me Mills' trade secret, I'll fill you in on the drum machine Richie uses (hint: it's a Roland.;) Kevin --- Hodgson, S. R. (Sean) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could for a small fee... JUST JOKING with ya!!! sean Kevin Conrad wrote: Would you care to share those trade secrets? :) Kevin --- Hodgson, S. R. (Sean) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to say that i really enjoyed chatting with Mr. Mills yesterday and feel sorry for all who could not make it out or just choose not to come out. Well, at least i was able to ask him and find out how to get the watered down sound with certain filters that he seems to know how to twist and manipulate just so right in his music. Sweet for me in my music making!!! --end sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have gone to RT to have him sign my old Wizard mix show tapes. Rudy Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2001 11:25:54 AM To: Benjamin Cuthbert \(Merch\) [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Daniel E' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smelled great to me! Agreed! I had to get my From the 21st cd signed as well as get a picture with him which was most obviously the highlight :) I too was suprised that it was not more crowded for his appearance but at the same time I kind of liked the smaller atmosphere set by it. To all that will be at the state theater tonight I will see all of you there. Regards, Rudy __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sean HodgsonFuel Cell Program C264 Hydro-Cooling Designer Ford Motor Company, TH!NK2 shodgso2ford.com15000 Commerce Dr. North Dearborn, MI 48120, U.S.A. Phones:Desk(313)323.1033, Fax(313) 317-4758 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sean HodgsonFuel Cell Program C264 Hydro-Cooling Designer Ford Motor Company, TH!NK2 shodgso2ford.com15000 Commerce Dr. North Dearborn, MI 48120, U.S.A. Phones:Desk(313)323.1033, Fax(313) 317-4758 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]/flame bait?
I agree with Sean, I just wanted to gain some more knowledge. With all the equipment out there, it's hard to tell what's flexible and what's not, except by asking anyone and everyone and getting their opinions. You can only spend so much time at Guitar Center playing on a machine before they kick you out :) I actually try to get stuff that people don't own so I can try to get my own sound/style molded. But in the end, it's the person that makes the music, not the gear. Kevin --- Hodgson, S. R. (Sean) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, i only asked mills because I have always been fascinated with that specific sound he use's, but that type of filtering and layer of certain effects could really help me out in experimenting with other sounds and creating new pieces of music for myself...Im just gaining more knowledge. hahaha ouch! tristan watkins wrote: For the most part I agree. Why do what's been done? At the same time, it's necessary to find gear that will allow you the flexibility to do what you want, and sometimes I think people are curious about acclaimed producer's gear because they like the direction of a sound rather than wanting to emulate it. And you need to start somewhere. Most innovators don't start out by making things in leftfield. You typically need to learn the basics of what's been done then deviate accordingly. If you simply try to make something different without putting in the time to learn the established technique it won't usually work. I'm the prime example. ;) Consider yourself flamed. Tristan __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] OT / recording streams
Try selecting Mixed Output as your recording source if you can, that's how I am able to record streaming audio. Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howdy folks is there any way of recording streaming audio into a wave editor like soundforge or wavelab? reply privately thanks. sorry for the off topic post anyone heard the geology 2 mix CD? p-dogg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] alien rave kru chapter 273
I'm surprised at how many people took this seriously and flamed the kru in their guestbook. Some of the people's reactions are almost as funny as the website itself. Kevin --- peter mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some interesting news... http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Stewart Walker
I can't beleive a show like this isn't being promoted. This will be great, because I really wanted to see these guys at the Plus 8 party in October, but I didn't make it. Kevin --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/14/00 2:31:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, he's definitely playing on December 27th at Motor. Awww yeah, I'm there in that case! Stewart rocks! He's a must-see. It'll be a double treat for I never heard Theorem live before. See ya's then (look for tall asian chick and say hi), =) G l y p h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] detroittechno.com
I think you're right. My wife has a hoodie sweatshirt that she got from Motor and on the hood it says detroittechno.com, and I remember going to the website before. Now the site just has a barebones index for the frontpage. Who knows, maybe Ford shelled out some money for the URL. Kevin --- DustinH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is purely speculation, but some time ago there was a green flash animation that played on the website of a small circle getting larger and when it filled the screen a bass thump sounded... I had written an email to the detroittechno.com domain and for some reason I am thinking that Motor owned it... I cant remember what gave that impression though -- I could be totally wrong on that one. -Dustin - Original Message - From: Matthew L. Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [313] detroittechno.com Whoever has bought these domain names is more than likely practicing what is known as domain name squatting. Basically, they purchased the domain name in hopes of reselling it later to someone else that wants it bad enough to pay them a sizeable profit for it. Meanwhile, they'll continue to register and re-register the name(s) for $35/each per year (or whatever the fee is now) until they're successful with their easy get-rich scheme, or tired of spending money on something they can't sell for what they want. How about detroittechno.edu, detroittechno.gov or detroittechno.mil? Any of those taken yet? ;-) Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com Does anyone know what is up with the people who bought detroittechno.com detroittechno.net, and detroittechno.org? (all three are owned by the same people i think). Like what do they plan on putting on there? -christos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Stewart Walker
I was at the Stewart Walker webpage, and he's listed as playing Motor on Dec. 27. But Motor doesn't list anything for this date. Anyone know if he's really playing? Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Stewart Walker
That's odd that they wouldn't promote it. It only takes a minute to update a webpage. Too bad there's no way of contacting Motor (that I know of) to find out the deal. If anyone knows a phone number/e-mail address, please let me know. Kevin --- Peter Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally dont know for sure, But I've been to quite a few shows at Motor that were not advertised on their website. Most recently- got to check out Phoenicia and Richie Devine of the Schematic crew in Florida. It was a really cool live show- basically a bunch of Mac Powerbooks making twisted beats and really thick soundscapes- so many layers of sound- my ears were killing but it was totally worth it. For those not familiar, the Schematic label has been putting out lots of good experimental electro stuff- sort of like autechre/rephlex sounds put to electro beats and breakbeats. anyhow there were only like 30 people there- i dont think Motor promoted it at all. p On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Kevin Conrad wrote: I was at the Stewart Walker webpage, and he's listed as playing Motor on Dec. 27. But Motor doesn't list anything for this date. Anyone know if he's really playing? Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] goa, 303, 313, heavy metal
I'm not sure if the origins are in heavy metal, but some goa is kinda like Techno meets Slayer. I had some Dark Soho tracks that I got off Napster, and there's some tracks where the song totally breaks into a shearing guitar riff that's reminiscent of old Slayer songs. I spent most of High School and a part of college listening to heavy/death metal, so I know a rippin' guitar riff when I hear one (I never thought I'd say that on this list ;) I actually had to remove the tracks from my computer so Winamp wouldn't shuffle play them because they were sort of annoying to listen to. My heavy metal years are over... But there is goa that sounds more like techno, with a trippiness flavor. Goa does have some diversity, like most other genres (except today's excuse for trance). Kevin --- mee-thod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, [iso-8859-1] Nick Walsh wrote: Goa is related to heavy metal music and gets it's sound from that... It doesn't have much to do with previous forms of electronic music (ie detroit influenced) at all... Really? First I've heard that, might wanna tell all the goa heads in aus the same thing too. what do u base this on? The oveerworked 303 sounds and other acid squigglies (tech term folks) don't really make me think heavy metal. mee-funk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Metropolis on vinyl?
Where do you live? Kevin --- darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but after listening to Mills' Metropolis, I must find it on vinyl, anyone have any leads? darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] satellite rec. site
Check your bookmarks. www.satellite-records.com is still the old website with all the old releases, www.satelliterecords.com is the new one. You'd think they would link both to the same page. Kevin --- Sanderson Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yo, anyone know what happened to satellite records' web site? sand. _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
synth shops
Does anybody know of any good synth shops in Detroit and the surrounding areas? Some places are just guitar shops with a small synth section, and I want to be able to talk to someone that's knowledgeable. Thanks. Kevin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] the D label
I picked up a D record after meeting the owner (Rexx aka XXX) at Threads one day and checking out the label. I liked it so I bought it. I think he writes under a few of those names for a look of diversity. He seemed pretty cool, down to earth. He's played out at Metro before I think. I don't know the connection with Hawtin though. Kevin --- Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: howdy, i've got few 12s by this mystery label D - music is really innovative and funky detroit techno, but i've never heard of the artists before and there seems to be connection to hawtin co, since D website is http://d.m-nus.com/. website itself is annoingly slow flash stuff and offers very little information about the label. anybody knows anything about this label? some of the tracks really sound like hawtin just jammin live... / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
