(313) Fw: failure notice

2005-07-08 Thread Maarten Baute
Why can't I unsubscribe from the 313 list? (I want to subscribe to digest)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ezmlm-manage: fatal: Sorry, I've been told to reject all requests (#5.7.2)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) new acid tracks to check....

2005-07-07 Thread Maarten Baute
 Hello Maarten, this is the opinion police.

:-)

 I fully agree. The professional recording studio is the worst invention
 ever
 :-)You need to build your own equipment
 I hate quality production.

 what was that you were saying about the beatles?

Quality production in the 60's is like home-made-track quality 10 years ago
(at best). There were only analog recording techniques and the beatles
experimented a lot with tape loops and stuff, so you get a layer of hiss. I
like the sound of the beatles a lot, it's not perfect as loads of people
think.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) new acid tracks to check....

2005-07-06 Thread Maarten Baute
Tom wrote:
 i feel like alot of artists are sitting out there trying to make
 things sound clean or professional or complex or whatever as
 opposed to good. like all the production values matter more than
 the actual content of the music. it seems to me like most techno
 is made in someone's bedroom, so it doesnt bother me if it sounds
 like it was. i really appreciate that raw feeling of the older
 techno and house music.

I fully agree. The professional recording studio is the worst invention ever
:-)
You need to build your own equipment, like King Tubby did ;-)
Take a listen to those mid 60's garage rock recordings. What a sound. When I
hear a guitar on the radio now, it sounds so impotent. It has no feeling at
all. That's what a professional recording studio does to your sound.
I hate quality production. Give me a rhythim is rhythim record any day! Love
that raw sound.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) theo parrish live in ireland.

2005-07-06 Thread Maarten Baute
 http://72.10.47.60/audio/mixes/theo_parrish_at_bodytonic_220405_pt1.rm

Is that track at 11 minutes KDJ 32? It sounds a bit like a prince track, but
not quite. Another example of a fine raw sound ;)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)

2005-07-01 Thread Maarten Baute
What does one need to do to get some attention? When I posted my all
house/techno mixes, I used to get loads of positive reactions. Now we try to
open our minds and tackle other genres and old stuff and nobody cares. Even
my marketing strategy didn't work ;-)

One (1!) download so far.

At this time my techno mixes would have been downloaded 20 times, easily.

 Dear Sir or Madam,

 I want to inform you about the best mix recorded in the history of
mankind.
 It was performed by dj cool synthesizer (me), dj techno maker and dj
 coldplaya (for a picture of us, look at
 http://www.morthenkiang.com/pics/no_nubreakzzz.jpg). This is a defining
 moment in the history of music making and western civilization. Download
the
 mix now and win a trip to Ibiza (bed  breakfast included)! Autograph
 sessions to be announced...
 Between the tracks there are some interludes, which are only
understandable
 to people who speak Maldegems fluently. The tracklisting is as follows:

 part one
 (feedback intro)
 01) can - bel air [ lp: future days, 1973 ]
 02) the beatles - blue jay way [ lp: magical mystery tour, 1967 ]
 03) the seeds - girl i want you [ lp: the seeds, 1966 ]
 (interlude)
 04) little richard - lucille [ compilation: the best of 50's jumpin' jive,
 1953 ]
 05) the wailers - road runner [ lp: the fabulous wailers, 1959 ]
 06) the rolling stones - parachute woman [ lp: beggars banquet, 1968 ]
 07) mississippi john hurt - nobody's dirty business [ lp: avalon blues:
the
 complete 1928 okeh recordings, 1996 ]
 (interlude)
 08) the cramps - i can't hardly stand it [ lp: ... off the bone, 1983 ]
 09) the monks - i hate you [ lp: black monk time, 1966 ]
 10) the velvet underground - venus in furs [ lp: the velvet underground 
 nico, 1967 ]
 11) santana - hope you're feeling better [ lp: abraxas, 1970 ]
 (interlude)
 12) the sonics - have love will travel [ lp: here are the sonics, 1965 ]
 13) shuggie otis - island letter [ lp: inspiration information, 1974 ]
 14) the congos - ark of the covenant [ lp: heart of the congos, 1977 ]
 15) augustus pablo - brace's tower dub no. 2 [ lp: king tubbys meets
rockers
 uptown, 1976 ]
 16) the slits - spend, spend, spend [ lp: cut, 1979 ]
 (interlude)
 17) dinosaur l - #7 [ lp: 24 24 music, 1981 ]
 18) joy division - disorder [ lp: unknown pleasures, 1979 ]
 19) liliput - do you mind my dream [ lp: liliput, 1982 ]
 20) esg - dance [ lp: come away with esg, 1983 ]
 (interlude)

 part two
 21) curtis mayfield - superfly [ lp: superfly, 1972 ]
 22) black sabbath - hand of doom [ lp: paranoid, 1971 ]
 23) napalm death - the kill [ lp: peel sessions, 1987]
 (interlude)
 24) the beach boys - god only knows [ lp: pet sounds, 1966 ]
 25) kenneth john and dimmed lights - no, baby, no [ label: top songs
 records, 7, ? (a maldegem band!) ]
 26) the stooges - 1969 [ lp: the stooges, 1969 ]
 (interlude)
 27) dj milton - suk the dik [ label: dance mania, 1995 ]
 28) morthen kiang - i dance on guilded splinters [ (unreleased) ]
 29) newworldaquarium - themefrom [ label: delsin, 2000 ]
 30) fennesz - rivers of sand [ lp: venice, 2004 ]
 (interlude)
 31) indean ocean - schoolbell / treehouse (walter gibbons mix) [ label:
 sleeping bag, 1986 ]
 32) prince - the ballad of dorothy parker [ lp: sign 'o' the times, 1987 ]
 33) the b-52's - party out of bounds [ lp: wild planet, 1980 ]
 (interlude)
 34) agnostic front - power [ lp: victim in pain, 1984 ]
 35) slant 6 - blue angel [ lp: soda pop rip off, 1994 ]
 36) talking heads - the great curve [ lp: remain in light, 1980 ]
 37) 69 - frequency finale [ label: planet e, 1991 ]
 (interlude)
 38) hellhammer - massacra [ lp: apocalyptic raids, 1984 ]
 39) burzum - war [ lp: burzum, 1992 ]
 (lou rawls interlude - featured in shake - the fake left go right plan,
 frictional 2001)
 40) rhythim is rhythim - strings of life [ label: transmat, 1987 ]
 (feedback outro - or: the best outro ever performed ... ever!)

 Download at: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html

 Just believe the hype.

 Cheers,
 Maarten a.k.a. dj cool synthesizer



Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)

2005-07-01 Thread Maarten Baute
 That first line of hype was enough for me to delete frankly!

That was part of the joke, of course. Our stupid faces on that picture
should have hinted that we were joking (well, not only our faces are stupid,
WE ARE stupid). It's not the best mix ever recorded, it's not even a mix. It
is me and two friends having some fun (and playing some music along the
line).

 Ken Odeluga
 Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk
 Dow Jones Newswires

Some interesting business news to share?
I like Squawk Box on CNBC. I really do. ;-)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)

2005-07-01 Thread Maarten Baute
 eh?
 one download?
 i dowenloaded it today and im pretty sure someone else did yesterday since
 the lauded it on the list

Ah.. well, my counter got reset at midnight (because we turned to july
today).



(313) who wants nubreakzzz anyway (when you've got these flavaz)

2005-06-30 Thread Maarten Baute
Dear Sir or Madam,

I want to inform you about the best mix recorded in the history of mankind.
It was performed by dj cool synthesizer (me), dj techno maker and dj
coldplaya (for a picture of us, look at
http://www.morthenkiang.com/pics/no_nubreakzzz.jpg). This is a defining
moment in the history of music making and western civilization. Download the
mix now and win a trip to Ibiza (bed  breakfast included)! Autograph
sessions to be announced...
Between the tracks there are some interludes, which are only understandable
to people who speak Maldegems fluently. The tracklisting is as follows:

part one
(feedback intro)
01) can - bel air [ lp: future days, 1973 ]
02) the beatles - blue jay way [ lp: magical mystery tour, 1967 ]
03) the seeds - girl i want you [ lp: the seeds, 1966 ]
(interlude)
04) little richard - lucille [ compilation: the best of 50's jumpin' jive,
1953 ]
05) the wailers - road runner [ lp: the fabulous wailers, 1959 ]
06) the rolling stones - parachute woman [ lp: beggars banquet, 1968 ]
07) mississippi john hurt - nobody's dirty business [ lp: avalon blues: the
complete 1928 okeh recordings, 1996 ]
(interlude)
08) the cramps - i can't hardly stand it [ lp: ... off the bone, 1983 ]
09) the monks - i hate you [ lp: black monk time, 1966 ]
10) the velvet underground - venus in furs [ lp: the velvet underground 
nico, 1967 ]
11) santana - hope you're feeling better [ lp: abraxas, 1970 ]
(interlude)
12) the sonics - have love will travel [ lp: here are the sonics, 1965 ]
13) shuggie otis - island letter [ lp: inspiration information, 1974 ]
14) the congos - ark of the covenant [ lp: heart of the congos, 1977 ]
15) augustus pablo - brace's tower dub no. 2 [ lp: king tubbys meets rockers
uptown, 1976 ]
16) the slits - spend, spend, spend [ lp: cut, 1979 ]
(interlude)
17) dinosaur l - #7 [ lp: 24 24 music, 1981 ]
18) joy division - disorder [ lp: unknown pleasures, 1979 ]
19) liliput - do you mind my dream [ lp: liliput, 1982 ]
20) esg - dance [ lp: come away with esg, 1983 ]
(interlude)

part two
21) curtis mayfield - superfly [ lp: superfly, 1972 ]
22) black sabbath - hand of doom [ lp: paranoid, 1971 ]
23) napalm death - the kill [ lp: peel sessions, 1987]
(interlude)
24) the beach boys - god only knows [ lp: pet sounds, 1966 ]
25) kenneth john and dimmed lights - no, baby, no [ label: top songs
records, 7, ? (a maldegem band!) ]
26) the stooges - 1969 [ lp: the stooges, 1969 ]
(interlude)
27) dj milton - suk the dik [ label: dance mania, 1995 ]
28) morthen kiang - i dance on guilded splinters [ (unreleased) ]
29) newworldaquarium - themefrom [ label: delsin, 2000 ]
30) fennesz - rivers of sand [ lp: venice, 2004 ]
(interlude)
31) indean ocean - schoolbell / treehouse (walter gibbons mix) [ label:
sleeping bag, 1986 ]
32) prince - the ballad of dorothy parker [ lp: sign 'o' the times, 1987 ]
33) the b-52's - party out of bounds [ lp: wild planet, 1980 ]
(interlude)
34) agnostic front - power [ lp: victim in pain, 1984 ]
35) slant 6 - blue angel [ lp: soda pop rip off, 1994 ]
36) talking heads - the great curve [ lp: remain in light, 1980 ]
37) 69 - frequency finale [ label: planet e, 1991 ]
(interlude)
38) hellhammer - massacra [ lp: apocalyptic raids, 1984 ]
39) burzum - war [ lp: burzum, 1992 ]
(lou rawls interlude - featured in shake - the fake left go right plan,
frictional 2001)
40) rhythim is rhythim - strings of life [ label: transmat, 1987 ]
(feedback outro - or: the best outro ever performed ... ever!)

Download at: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html

Just believe the hype.

Cheers,
Maarten a.k.a. dj cool synthesizer



Re: (313) New Joe Lewis on Peacefrog

2005-06-29 Thread Maarten Baute
Robin at time t:
 ...and managed to release a 12 without charging 15 quid for
 itnice one peacefrog.

Robin at time t+1:
 yeah i only joke really, if they need to do that to keep doing what they
 do, then cool.

I'd rather see peacefrog go bankrupt then having to watch this 15 quid
trend take any further. Other labels manage to do it without charging high
prices, so why couldn't peacefrog do it? Besides, I've bought all these high
priced singles and sold them back (yes, I fel for the marketing trick),
because... they aren't that good.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Friday Top 5.....

2005-06-17 Thread Maarten Baute
1) the beatles - the white album
2) the beatles - revolver
3) the beatles - magical mystery tour
4) the beatles - rubber soul
5) the beatles - abbey road

Although they all deserve to be on the no.1 spot!

I *heart* the beatles

For some new music: check the new cult band - the funeral folk - for some
sick drones.

interview: http://www.digitalisindustries.com/foxyd/feature_detail.php?id=60
site: http://home.wanadoo.nl/pmarreyt/

Cheers,
Maarten




(313) mess i made

2005-06-15 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi,

I noticed that the rotating assembly's mess i made (appears on the natural
aspirations album) is a cover of a song originally written by ltg exchange
(listen here: http://music.rushhour.nl/shop/31185.mp3). I didn't notice any
credits on the vinyl sleeve of the natural aspirations album. That makes it
stealing, right? I thought that when covering a song, you always should
mention the original composer. Jurren?

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) shades of jae whites

2005-06-03 Thread Maarten Baute
 sounds nothing like any of the versions of shades of jae on the
 12. it could be the b side from it, it was called the set up
 but i dont have that one (yet).

That's the B-side of this record:
http://www.discogs.com/release/246872

It is a repress of The Thief That Stole My Sad Days ... Ya Blessin' Me but
with different tracks. Not that interesting though (imho).

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) shades of jae whites

2005-06-03 Thread Maarten Baute
I replied to the wrong mail...

www.emmrecords.com/~fux/shades.mp3

is the B-side of http://www.discogs.com/release/246872



Re: (313) Sasha playing Detroit stuff!

2005-05-27 Thread Maarten Baute
 You see! This is what I was afraid of when my friend said that Detroit was
trendy these days. It's not good


I would *love* it, when progressive dj's would start playing (proper)
detroit techno. Then finally I would be able to hear some good music on the
radio, wich would be a good thing. Or wouldn't it? Besides, most of these
new red planet records, for instance, really sound like trance. And that new
octave one record sounded pretty progressive to my ears. Wich is NOT a good
thing, though. :-)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) [OT] Pay p*l

2005-05-22 Thread Maarten Baute
 is this a saturday night half drunk question?

No. But I found out how to do it now. Thanks to everybody who answered. It's
pretty straightforward...

 waht's the * for anyway?

Your mail will not get thru to the mailinglist when you write payp*l without
the asterix and with an a instead.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) [dustv005] Lost and Found 1 By Anthony Shakir

2005-05-16 Thread Maarten Baute
 Samples And Info Here
http://www.dustscience.com/Releases/AnthonyShakir-Losta.php 

The B2 is a remake of a track on Frictional 003. This will save me 200 bucks
(Altough the remake is not as good as the original).

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com



Re: (313) track id's please (juan atkins set)

2005-05-09 Thread Maarten Baute

http://www.deejaymixes.com/MP3/juanatkins/juan_atkins-12yearstresor-march200
3.mp3

A great mix it is. Amazing selection.

 1) the first track

Sounds like an unreleased remix of mayday's wiggin'.

Don't know about the rest.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Hardcore u no the score (was rob hall etc)

2005-05-06 Thread Maarten Baute
 C'mon let's face it,  hardcore, whether it was 'ardkore, or happy was a
 big pile of sh*t and had the musical content of a cheese sandwich.

As does most house and techno.

But it's true that the good/bad releases ratio in hardcore is very very low
(and I know what I'm talking about, because I used to buy these records as
well).

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Henrik Schwarz...ala cheap imitation

2005-05-03 Thread Maarten Baute
 so, just cuz hes european, its wrong?

I don't think Jason is dissing HS because he is european. Moritz is european
too, so this isn't the problem. I do agree with Jason that Henrik Schwarz is
a bit overrated. He did a couple of nice songs, but at the end, not anything
special. I don't understand why everybody's talking about him.

BTW: I love Moritz :-) Too bad he's putting all his efforts on the Burial
Mix label, wich has releases that are hit or miss, the latter more than the
former. Now that I am discovering dub (lee perry, congos, ...), the M series
sound much more dub to my ears (in spirit) than the Burial Mix ones! Really.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-29 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi friends,

you want to know something ackward? The oldest 313 archived email at 
http://elists.resynthesize.com was posted by B. Wright Keller on july the 
1st 1994, and the content is very alike to this thread. I posted the whole 
email below, but want want to mention the last paragraph first:


Note: I am highly opposed to those incredibly tacky, misogynist hard house
tracks that were popular at places like the Sound Factory a couple of years
back, like Beat that Bitch with a Bat by Club America. There is no excuse
for dance music like this. Campy sex lyrics are fine by me, though.

ISN'T THAT FUNNY? Yep, the first archived 313 email, woohoo! Here is the 
full version:


Regarding this whole uproar over Blake Baxter's sexually explicit lyrics, I
think that it is necessary to consider the cultural context of Baxter's
music before making any snap judgements. First off, the earliest record
that I know of that uses the phrase Work This P#ssy was recorded by Sweet
P#ssy Pauline, a New York City drag queen who released a record in the late
eighties containing an acapella monologue that builds up to the line, Work
this p#ssy you big, ugly, bean-eating motherf#cker (or something to that
effect).

That record spawned a whole array of Work This P#ssy spin-off records
including the legendary Work That Motherf#cker (artist ID?). These
records were big in gay house clubs in Chicago and New York at the time. In
this context, the phrase is like a drag queen in-joke, part of the whole
campy experience of dressing in drag.

Now considering Baxter's past as a Chicago House producer, he is
doubtlessly familiar with the language of gay clubs. In fact, he put out a
little known jem called Bitch a couple of years ago that affects this
same kind of attitude with the hook Am I a bitch, yes. Am I a ho, no. You
wanna f#ck? Let's go. This record came out about the same time as his Hot
Body (a brilliant Sylvester-style sex anthem), and both records were
pushed in the urban gay market.

Now he's come out (no pun intended) with the lyric Work that p#ssy, no
doubt an homage to Sweet P#ssy, et al, and the lyrics, Got to lick it, got
to get it up, got to stick it, you got to let me nut. This reminds me more
of an underground classic called Lick It on one of those Black Tracks (?)
compilations out of Chicago, that went, Gotta lap it up, lick it, slurp it
down. I remember seeing people go nuts to this record when it was hot.

Anyway, my whole point is: judge artwork in it's own cultural context, and
realize that words have different meanings coming from different mouths.

Note: I am highly opposed to those incredibly tacky, misogynist hard house
tracks that were popular at places like the Sound Factory a couple of years
back, like Beat that Bitch with a Bat by Club America. There is no excuse
for dance music like this. Campy sex lyrics are fine by me, though.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-28 Thread Maarten Baute
I see it as sexist and homophobic. Which is exactly what it is, so dont 
try

and argue the point.


I think that's the point. I wouldn't like it that much if the vocals weren't 
insulting to women. Clearly, the simplicity of the music implies that we 
can't take seriously the stuff they are saying. So I don't have a problem 
with it. It's a stereotype they put on. So it's all about having a little 
fun. Don't know if the ladies like it as much... ;-)


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-28 Thread Maarten Baute

The way I see it 'beat that bitch with a bat' ain't fun whether it's in a
film, book, newspaper or a booty track.


But that's probably a bad example, because the words have more of a violent 
content rather than a sexual.


Anyways, I just think you have to take all this kind of stuff too seriously.

Cheers,
Maarten 



(313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-27 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi,

I am looking for a top (let us say) 10 of Booty records of all times. I 
rediscovered the genre by talking about that dave clarke show yesterday. I 
did a quick search on juno and was that Dj Funk has a new ep out on Dance 
Mania. This might as well be the first record released in 2005 that I 
purchase (didn't buy the sun god ep after all). I particuly like the track 
Booty Clap 2 and the rework of Work that Motherf#cker. The rest of the 
tracks aren't that interesting. I only have one booty record in my 
collection (Dj Milton - Trax 4 Daze, of Mayday mix fame), and I am looking 
for a second one: Dj J.R. Dione - Do Me Baby (for the classic Bump  
Grind Time, wich was a Dave Clarke favourite back in the day). Can you 
recommend other classic Booty stuff? As usual, I am looking for the best of 
the best. So what's your favourite booty record of all times? I allready 
know Ass-N-Tities ;-)


I know there is a good record of Dj Deeon, with a house rework of Is It All 
Over My Face on it, don't know the title of that release, though.


Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-27 Thread Maarten Baute

I am looking for a top (let us say) 10 of Booty records of all times.


On a side note: I prefer stomping 4 to the floor tracks with repeating 
vocals. I don't like the electro inspired tracks that much.


Thanks,
Maarten 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-27 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi Matt,


detroit grand pubahs - dr. bootygrabber

no repeating vocals. lyrics are quite narrative.


It's a fresh track. But I still would prefer a track where the clap is not 
only on the 2nd and 4th beats, but on all of them. And the bpm should be 135 
or more. And the vocals more dirty. And the bass a little louder. To make a 
long horse short: there may be no form of intelligence in the track 
whatsoever. ;-))


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-27 Thread Maarten Baute

im not sure who did it or what label it came out on, but that
beat that b*tch with a bat track is one that ive been trying to
hunt down with no luck.


beat that b*tch with a bat, sounds allright to me!! ;-)

I once heard a track in a mix of Dj Godfather with the vocals yo homey get 
home quick, cause the h_o_e is on my d_i_c_k. Must be something from Dj 
Assault. Man, those must the best lyrics since Marvin Gaye's What's Going 
On.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) Quest for da Booty

2005-04-27 Thread Maarten Baute
I once heard a track in a mix of Dj Godfather with the vocals yo homey 
get home quick, cause the h_o_e is on my d_i_c_k. Must be something from 
Dj Assault. Man, those must the best lyrics since Marvin Gaye's What's 
Going On.


My friend assured me that the lirycs were: you better get yo b#tch coz that 
h_o_e is on my d_i_c_k.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
 That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know
 the track... but I've CC'd him.

I've probably lied today by telling on a forum that Sonic Sunset is the best
radioshow in the world at the moment ;-)

I was complaining about the quality of the belgian house/techno related show
SWITCH on the Studio Brussel station. They are playing way too much
Electro-House for my taste. They assured me it is not possible to deliver
quality and still have a large audience. Then I talked about SS. I don't
know hom many listeners you have... but there are 6 million Dutch speaking
belgians, and 10 million people in chicago? And the studio brussel station
has about 4% market share. So it could be that you have as much listeners.
And even if they have 5 times more, your show is 10 times better. So you
beat them with a ratio of 2. :-)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) peacefrog

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
 and, while we're on the subject of Paeacefrog, WHERES THE JOE LEWIS
 LP??/!
 
 it was promo-d ages ago, anyone seen it?

 didnt even hear about this, was it supposed to be old stuff or new?

It would be nice to have something like that Stasis retrospective. But that
wouldn't make the collectors happy, I guess. Placid?

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi Matt,

 Ha!!  well thanks for your support Maarten  the difference may be
 they are commercially funded by radio advertisers?  We are fortunately
 not advertiser supported, which means we are sort of living in a fools'
 paradise.  ;)

well, they get their funds of my tax money! So they are supported by
governement money, collected from the citizens. No advertisment. But as I
understand it, they have to reach a 6% market share to get some more funds
or something. So what they want to get more people listening to their
station, and that's probably why they are a bit more on the commercial side
of things as they used to be five years ago. In the '97-'98 period they had
every week a Dave Clarke show (when he was still a great dj, with a wide
selection in music). And he once dedicated a whole show on Chicago Booty (Dj
Funk, Deeon, etc.). That was awesome. Last year they had dj Godfather over,
but this is the last half hour I remember as being great. They fill their
time mostly with overrated hyped up electro inspired house with the same
cold impotent synth sounds all the way thru. Ah well... hoping for a better
time to come.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
 this was a good era for him.  i remember he had a radio pilot called
 the truth, (that's not what you heard, was it?) in mid 90's.i
 think it only ran once or twice in the Uk but Rob Webb (old 313'er)
 sent me a tape of it... it was good.  vicious mixing and he talked
 about the tracks he played here and there... though so many were UR
 white labels it was funny trying to hear him give info on something
 there was no info for.  Strong selections though, for techno,... raw
 and hard hitting jack trax too.

Hmm, I think his show here was called dave clarke worldwide and between
the tracks he played recorded messages of other dj's raving about dave
clarke ;-) He was a great dj back then. I remember his dj set at I Love
Techno in Ghent in '98. It was amazing. It's untrue. He mixed a lot of
double copies. Just letting two of the same records play (so you hear a
phaser) with a 2 bar hook, then he hold the first record for a beat and puts
it back in, so now you have a repeating hook of 1 beat long. It was crazy.
Then he dropped Lil Louis - Original Video Clash at 135 BPM. How did he do
that? That track is 115 BPM or something? And putting it at 45 would be too
fast. Every 30 seconds there was a new track coming out of the speakers,
with a totaly different sound. I don't have the mix anymore and don't find
it on soulseek, but I need it so much. It's entertaining.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com

2005-04-26 Thread Maarten Baute
 Hmm, I think his show here was called dave clarke worldwide and between
 the tracks he played recorded messages of other dj's raving about dave
 clarke ;-)

Oh wait, I think it was called Technologie, yes, that was it! Worldwide
was a show wich he did after 2000, I think. It wasn't nearly half as good.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) terrace is back !!!

2005-04-22 Thread Maarten Baute
Is that an Albert Einstein speech on the 2nd track? If it is, that's
something great. He's my hero, E=mc^2 boys! all the way!

It's a shame they abused that formula.

Also, I am digging the sun god's relics  artifacts track, I just wonder
what synth he is using on that track. It sounds like the synth Larry Heard
used on his early Mr. Fingers and Fingers inc. projects.

Cheers,
Maarten - www.morthenkiang.com



Re: (313) terrace is back !!!

2005-04-22 Thread Maarten Baute
 wah Maarten, you like a new track??!!!
 
 ; )
 
 good that track huh?

Yes, but I don't like the B-side ;-)


Re: (313) angola w cc and pepe rmx

2005-04-22 Thread Maarten Baute
 are there only two rons edits records avaialble do you know? I have two,
 anyone seen any more?
 someone said to me there were four.

Discogs list two! But there is a new magick edit allstars record, listed
on the site of clone.nl. Don't like it, though.

 This e-mail is sent by the above named in
 their individual, non-business capacity and
 is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP.

Do you work for PWC? Interesting.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) angola w cc and pepe rmx

2005-04-22 Thread Maarten Baute
 an edit of connie case 'get down'. played that out on friday and had
 the place jumping. one of those that get's multiple questions of
 what's that!!?

Now wait a minute, that's a tack on the magick kuts label, right? It's not
on the magick edit allstars 003. Or is it?

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Manchester '313' events

2005-04-22 Thread Maarten Baute
 I saw that Shake night listed on LD - looks proper
 good that, might pop down for a visit ;-)

Talking about Shake, I saw he is listed in the artist section on the dust
science website. Does this mean that we can expect new Shake output? If this
is the case, I hope that it's much in the spirit of frictional 008 til 011,
wich is the most consistent 4-record-in-a-row-run on a label since maurizio
02 til 05 (06 and 07 are also fantastic). Although I don't like the hip hop
cuts on frictional 009 and 010.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) What's happening in Prague?

2005-04-19 Thread Maarten Baute
Jason,

I bought my first two non-gabber records (in the year 2000) in the Disko
Duck store in Prague (http://www.diskoduck.cz/index_eng.php) on a school
trip:

Laurent Garnier - Unreasonable Behaviour (F-com) 2x12
Jeff Mills - If/Tango (PM 009) 12

I allready sold bought of them, although I still own the laurant garnier
album on CD. I like it, but don't play it out, so I don't need it on vinyl.

Can't judge if they had a good stock back then, because LG and JM were the
only names I recognized :-)

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) New Records

2005-04-12 Thread Maarten Baute
 p.s.: can anyone confirm that the tracks from new sound signature comp
 are going to be released on vinyl? i hope that so much...

The Hanna track is quite good, albeit not being special or original in any
kind of way. A good opener.

The track by TOM (Theo Parrish, Omar-S and Marsellus Pitman) is based around
a 707 loop with a little bassline coming in near the middle. It's a pretty
boring track tough.

The track by Jerry The Cat has a real irritating vocal, follow by some more
irritating vocals and some uninspired drumming.

There is a track with vocals from Umar Bin Hassan. He has never sounded so
ridiculous. Of course, it's because of the music. There seems to be some
kind of guitar solo in it (done with a synth). The worst track I have heard
in a couple of years.

Take a listen to the track by Howard Thomas. I challenge you to make a track
more boring than that one. You couldn't!

The Piranha track is a deephouse track with female vocals. I won't comment
on that one, because I am biased. That is, I feel a deep deep hate towards
anything that even sounds like smooth deephouse with vocals.

The Theo Parrish track has a nice loop. Too bad it's just 4 bars in a loop.
Why would you want to release that?

The best loop of the whole CD is probably in the green pickles track. Very
minimal drums, but again, no variation at all. Also the vocals are far from
good.

Marsellus Pitman delivers an acid house track. The sounds are good. But it
seems he got stuck in pattern mode??

The sound signature gang seems troubled with a lack of inspiration and
vision. By far the worst CD of the SS catologue. AVOID!

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) New Records

2005-04-12 Thread Maarten Baute
 Maarten.
 
 Q.
 
 When was the last time a record came out you liked?
 
 1981?

No, I bought Theo Parrish - Twin Cities in 2004, wich I like a lot. ;-) 


Re: (313) New Records

2005-04-12 Thread Maarten Baute
 maybe you can tell what you really dig actually, i thought you are/were
 a big theo fan as well...

Don't get me wrong, I *was* a big SS and TP fan, just before the release of
the Rotating Assembly stuff. I adore his earlier SS records. I really do. I
play them a lot. But I just feel he is making things a bit easy on himself
lately and wanted to point this out. And I don't like doing it. Same story
goes mutatis mutandis for Moodymann. I just don't feel his  newer stuff but
honestly think a silent introduction is the best house album of all times
(so I rate it higher than mr. fingers' amnesia for instance), and I heard
a lot of house albums, believe me. It's even on my breathtaking albums
list at

http://www.morthenkiang.com/wwcf.html

(wich is still very limitative, because I know sh*t about music ;-) ). The
problem with this list is that these are almost all classics, so I need to
find out more about underrated and more obscure stuff.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) New Records

2005-04-12 Thread Maarten Baute
 so basically you only like their disco cutup tracks? thats
 understandable, thats all good stuff. but i like the kinds of
 things theyre trying to do, even if theyre not hitting the mark
 every time. for example i dont think most of the rotating assembly
 stuff got the job done, but black mahogani 2 is just off the
 charts good. 2 similarish projects, 2 different sounding results
 of varying quality. i certainly wouldnt say either of them is
 being easy on themselves.

The being easy part was more intended for the sound sampler CD, not for
the rotating assembly stuff. I'm sure he has put a lot of effort in the
rotating assembly stuff, but it's not my cup of tea. It never comes close to
the funk and jazz-funk records from the 70ies.



Re: (313) New Records

2005-04-12 Thread Maarten Baute
Ken wrote:

 I've not heard any of these records Maarten so I can't comment on your
opinion. However, I note that a lot of your criticisms seem to center on
the fact that much of the SS stuff seems a bit loopy.  I wonder if you
ever considered that much of it might be intended for use as 'DJ gear'
rather than appreciated as 'songs' or 'tracks'? 

You can make a great dj track with a lot of stuff going on in the song. Take
kaos by Derrick May for example. It's a dancefloor track, but it is really
entertaining. And that's what I'm looking for in a dance track. Most of
the time, those theo parrish records are a bit too long. Even my favourite
of them all, roots revisited, stays interesting for about 4 minutes. Wich is
a shame, because those first minutes are amazing, IMHO.

And Alex, I know they are exploring new artistic possibilities, wich is a
good thing 'in se'. But like you say, they just don't seem to do it that
well. And I also know they are putting some effort in these things, but I
can't do anything else than conclude that their earlier stuff is much
better.

Still, I think the sound sampler cd consist mainly of tracks wich were
made between lunch and dinner. (as a matter of speech)

Cheers,
Maarten




Re: (313) FW: Email Overload

2005-04-06 Thread Maarten Baute
So Mr. Hawtin is on this list after all?


I will be out of the office starting  01/19/2005 and will not return
until
12/31/2005.

This email address is presently overloaded.  I am checking it, but not
daily anymore, so please do not expect too quick of a reply.  If this is
of
some urgent matter, please contact Tim Price at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or call me.
Thanks!  Rich

Rich





Re: (313) planet delsin

2005-04-05 Thread Maarten Baute
 154 cultmember

His 2 EP's Themefrom / NY  Tresspassers are the best records on the
Delsin label (imho), wich says something. The mp3 snippet on the Delsin site
of the track on the compilation didn't catch my attention, maybe I should
hear it full length.

Themefrom is probably the most original track of em all. A bit on the
repetative side of things, but very original. Blows the rotating assembly
and the new moodymann stuff away... easily.

Cheers,
Maarten



(313) technical question

2005-04-02 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi,

the A side of my copy of prince's 1999 has some distortion on the vocals,
especially on little red corvette. The overall quality of the a-side is
quite bad, actually. The other sides of this double album sound so much
better. Could it be that the previous owner listened a lot to the a side and
didn't bother about the other cuts, or is this distorted sound on the A-side
a matter of recording quality (so it would be on all the pressings, at least
of this run). Anyone got an idea?

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



(313) OT: The Monks

2005-03-28 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi,

does anyone know how rare the original album Black Monk Time (1966: The
Monks) is? I know there is a bootleg called black time around with some
additional tracks, but before I buy a bootleg, I want to be sure the
original is almost impossible to get a hold of.

Some nice 'pre-punk' (can't think of a better term).

Thanks a bunch,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



(313) Octave One - Somedays

2005-03-17 Thread Maarten Baute
And since when is Octave One making progressive house?

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/173198-01.htm

I'm not feeling this at all. Sorry.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/


Re: (313) Octave One - Somedays

2005-03-17 Thread Maarten Baute
Derek Plaslaiko wrote:
 did you like Blackwater?

I didn't like the vocal version. The original untold version was not bad.

Cheers,
MB

 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Maarten Baute wrote:
 
  And since when is Octave One making progressive house?
 
  http://www.juno.co.uk/products/173198-01.htm
 
  I'm not feeling this at all. Sorry.



Re: (313) Mostly Listening To

2005-03-08 Thread Maarten Baute
Mostly Listening To (lately):

the velvet underground - the velvet underground  nico (lp)
prince - sign 'o' the times (lp)
mk - burning (mkappella) (track)
shuggie otis - inspiration information (lp)
marvin gaye - what's going on

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/


(313) Omar-S

2005-01-21 Thread Maarten Baute
HAHA. Mieljerdendzju.

That second track on that Omar-S mix is fantastic. What is it?

Was this the track Matthew was asking about?

download at: http://www.allphon.com/brols/omarmix.rm

So there *is* great music coming out today... and I bet it's coming from
DETROIT!

The first track is not bad either. Great mix overall. So a new star is born?

Goeien boel.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) Q

2005-01-05 Thread Maarten Baute
That Q track was on a 12 promo on warp (with 5 other tracks from the
album). I sold it for 6 euro last month...

Yes. I am insane.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Q

2005-01-05 Thread Maarten Baute
 i can't remember what was on the bonus 7 that came with the Metaphor 
 LP... anyone?  I kept losing it.. hope i still have it tucked in there 
 somewhere.

I am talking about this record: http://www.discogs.com/release/128251

It's a promo 12.

Cheers,
Maarten


(313) this is really bad

2004-12-22 Thread Maarten Baute

HA!

A new contender for worst record of the year: 
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF165767-01-01-01.mp3


Joe Smooth - Lose My Breath (Joe Smooth Strings Of Life remix)

I doubt if this is the real Joe Smooth though... the record seems to be a 
bootleg (see www.juno.co.uk), cause it sampled strings of life and that 
destiny child's song lose my breath. If it is the 'real' joe smooth, i 
really feel sorry for him. HAHA


I really wonder how you can turn a timeless masterpiece (strings of life) 
and a not-bad-at-all pop record (lose my breath) in such an aweful piece of 
music. You must be really gifted to do that. I couldn't do that, for sure.


Some people in the music bizz should be asking themselves some serious 
questions.


Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ 



Re: (313) this is really bad

2004-12-22 Thread Maarten Baute

Stop sampling Strings of Life, you're making it sound silly!


Re: (313) definitive detroit track?

2004-12-21 Thread Maarten Baute
For me, I'd be handing out copies of 'It Is What It Is' like a priest 
giving out holy communion to all those wanting to be saved. (No Catholic 
jokes please.) 


Good choice, Louis. But I would opt for Rhythim is Rhythim's beyond the 
dance (cult mix), wich is more of a building to a climax kind of thing. 
Those metallic sounding string stabs are really outstanding. And I've heard 
nothing that sounds like this track, ever after. For me, Derrick May is the 
best electronic artist of ALL TIMES (of course, I don't know all artists, 
but you get the point).


Cheers,
Maarten




(313) qoutation (shake)

2004-12-21 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi,

I allready asked this question to this list one time, but didn't get an 
answer. So I will try again. I heard a nice qoutation in the outro of a 
track by anthony shakir (the B1 on the the fake left, go right plan on the 
songs for my mother ep) that goes a little like this:


also we remember everyone had their own personal style, everybody had an 
identifiable musical style, a musical voice. And if you didn´t have that, 
you didn´t get signed. The problem today is that they have turned music into 
selling bags of potato chips where everybody sounds alike, looks alike and 
that's what's the problem is today


I couldn't say it better! It is deffo the voice of a black male, probably 
some disco/soul guy (with vision).


Anthony Shakir used to be on the list right? He might answer this one.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ 



Re: (313) Re:(313) Hit Me Up/Theo/Kenny

2004-12-13 Thread Maarten Baute

I can't kick the feeling when it hits
(released on KDJ in a stunning 16 minute version and a shorter mix with 
the

mann talking on the Planet E album 'Silence Introduction')


So does KDJ6 contain a 16 minute version? I always tought KDJ6 contained the 
exact same track as the one released on the silentintroduction album... How 
is that 16 minute version then? Does it add much to the short edit on the 
album?


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-09 Thread Maarten Baute

this chart is dedicated to Maarten Beute, dis-illusioned with techno music
at the ripe old age of about 24!


I'm 22. ;-) I reckon there is good stuff in your list (if not all), but 
wasn't really impressed *that* much on a first listen (listend to them when 
they came out). Maybe I should take another listen, they might grow on me.


Thanks for sharing,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com




Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-08 Thread Maarten Baute

1. 3 Chairs lp


Hmmm isn't it a bit too easy to make a 7 minute repeating loop (as is 
the case with most of the tracks on this lp)? If underwater people 
wouldn´t be on this album, there wouldn't be a reason for me to buy it.


Ah well... most house/techno albums sound a bit uninspired compared to the 
secret tapes of dr. eich (wich I am listening to right now). Don't they?


Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com 



Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-08 Thread Maarten Baute
Hmmm... these are the 8 records released in 2004 that I bought. I checked 
most of the other stuff coming out, really. I just think there is not much 
interesting stuff out there at the moment... I'm sorry.


1) ron hardy - ron's edits vol.2 [ ron's edits 002 ]
- infamous edits
2) theo parrish - twin cities [ harmonie park 007 ]
- great record, both sides.
3) ron hardy - ron's edits vol.1 [ ron's edits 001 ]
- legendary ron hardy edits
4) magick edit allstars - the music's getting stronger [ edit001 ]
- nice edits
5) omar s - untitled [ aos002 ]
- good house
6) $tinkworx - aedena ep [ delsin 47dsr/$tw3 ]
- b-side features some fresh tracks.
7) throbbing gristle - mutant tg [ novamute 122lp ] (2x12)
- basement jaxx + carl craig mixes. the other mixes is some of the worst 
music ever released
8) the rotating assembly - natural aspirations k/l [ sound signature 
ss019xkl ]

- b side s*cks, a side is ok

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-08 Thread Maarten Baute

if its so easy, why cant i find tons of house records as good as
this one?


I truly belief (I mean what I say now) there has not been released more than 
five good house records this year. Of course the 3 chairs album is one of 
the best if you compare it to the majority of the records coming out today. 
But if you compare it to the records coming out in the period '85 - '99... 
you have another story.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-08 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi Alex!


1) ron hardy - ron's edits vol.2 [ ron's edits 002 ]

- infamous edits


3) ron hardy - ron's edits vol.1 [ ron's edits 001 ]

- legendary ron hardy edits

I know you're aware of this. These two records are COPIES of Ron Hardy
edits. I have them both and agree that they are EXCELLENT.


I am aware of this, Alex.

However, you're saying in one post the three chairs lp is all looped up 
and

not that good, and these tracks are looped to f**k


Alex, don't you see there is much more action going on in the edit of let 
no man put asunder, than in, for instance, blackbone waltz on the three 
chairs lp. Don't you hear that? I would not say the let no man put asunder 
is a loop. There is a lot of variation in it. The track is a sequence of 
loops, wich is a different thing. It's amazing, really.


Come on...  I like most of theo's stuff, but he can be hit or mis. And this 
is a mis IMHO. There is just too little variation in it.


I actually have nothing against loops. But if you loop it, it better be 
good. Example: Grain! He can loop a loop properly. ;)



not digging no Morgan Geist shiz this year? You got that new Kerri
Chandler? Erm, gawd, theres been ALOT of good house this year IMO. No 
Kenny

Dixon stuff taking your fancy? What about MG? And... I could go on


I really don't dig the new KDJ tracks. Don't you think that the early KDJ's 
are much better? Of course you do, Alex. I´m sure.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) top ten

2004-12-08 Thread Maarten Baute

Dear Stewart,


maarten your taste is crap!  ;P


funny you say that. First, a lot of the stuff you like, I like too and vice 
versa. I just don't buy as much records as you do. Second, one of my 
favourite records is downlow 001, one of your records. I am also in love 
with the todas las noches ep on delsin. I don't think that's crap. I think 
a lot of people would agree I have a great taste. I might be a bit too 
critical at times, that's definitely the case.


I also think a lot of people would agree there is relatively less 
interesting music coming out than 5 years ago (in house and techno anyway). 
I hear a lot of people complain about this. This was the point I was trying 
to make (and being tired as I am, I relied a bit too much on bold statements 
and one-liners, I apologize).


Still, I think 2004 was not a good year for house and technno music.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com





Re: (313) Re: ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-24 Thread Maarten Baute

Ugly Edits 3:

A: Freddie Hubbard - Little Sunflower (album: Love Connection)
B: Sylvester - Disco Heat (album: Step II)

The edits are not great, IMHO. Especially the Sylvester edit is ridiculously 
repetitive.


Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com 



Re: (313) Re: ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-24 Thread Maarten Baute
does he still have the beautiful picture with him wearing the delsin shirt 
on?


;-) No I removed that pic. Not because of the nice Delsin shirt. But in the 
background you could see my studio equipment, but I sold all of that now 
(couldn't do much with those digital synths). So that's why I considered the 
picture not to be up to date anymore. I still wear my delsin shirt though.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-23 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi!


My feeling is that I love most of what Theo does, but as a (much,
much, much) less successful producer, I hear things in otherwise great
tracks  that are 'wrong' in a way that is a sharp stick in the ear for
no discernable artistic reason. Some tracks I want to remaster -
mostly run them through a De-Esser, compress the low end to keep it
manageable.


I actually consider theo parrish to be a GREAT producer. Take a listen to 
dan ryan or lights donw low (this one mix). I am sure he spends a lot of 
time making the sounds sound like they sound. I really dig all the sounds he 
uses, espacially the Laurel Aitken alike ska 'shakk' in dan ryan, wich he 
also used in twin citys. And I still wonder how he did the kick in music 
it sounds so hard, but the levels are ok.


I think everybody agrees that Theo has no studio (I never heard him use a 
synth, and he uses too much samples and does too much stuff to them to work 
efficiently with a sampler). He probably has only one all-in studio 
application on his computer. My guess is he uses Orion or somthing alike (I 
recongize the typical filters used of the sampler module). The only sounds 
he uses is stuff recorded from disco, ska, and soul recordings. What he 
basicly does is sampling an organ, pitching it down 2 octaves an filter it 
low and put a bit distortion on it. I think this is a very original way of 
sound processing, it creates a really nice warm, but kind of hard sound. I 
really like his way of doing things, I enjoy listening to his records very 
much. Just as I like listening to Carl Craig's early 69 records or paperclip 
people's the secret tapes of dr. eich, wich also have a typical lo-fi 
production.


What I do consider to be true is that the production on friendly children 
is really bad, there is just to much bass there, resulting in a really bad 
press. Maybe the people at peacefrog could press this record better? I don´t 
know. Also the ugly edits are sometimes to much bass-fueled (and too 
repetative most of the time).


Let me conclude with a top 5 of my favourite theo parrish records (wich I 
condider to be well produced):


1) lights down low (this one mix) - the tracky mix with loads of noise.
2) dan ryan
3) dance sing
4) music
5) solitary flight

Can't wait for the Carl Craig remix of Falling Up. I had to sell the 
detroit beatdown compilation because I couldn't bear the tought that I had a 
triple record pack with only one good track on it.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-23 Thread Maarten Baute

I have the whites of this comp, but I dont recall the track you guys are
talking about. who's track is falling up on this 3 pack? I may have to 
dig

it out to see if I somehow overlooked the one good track on the set.


The Falling Up track is the one by Theo Parrish himself. I think it is the 
longest track on the B-side.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-23 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi Dan,

Can't wait for the Carl Craig remix of Falling Up. I had to sell the 
detroit beatdown compilation because I couldn't bear the tought that I 
had a triple record pack with only one good track on it.


Hold on a god darned minute - did you really only like one track on the 
whole thing.seriously?


yes, I am serious. And I am aware of the fact that I am about the only one 
who only likes the theo parrish track. The other tracks sound so pollished 
to me. It's like they want to get deep but don't get there. I really don't 
dig em. I'm sorry.


Cheers,
Maarten 



Re: (313) ugly edits (full detail)

2004-11-20 Thread Maarten Baute

Theo Parrish - Ugly Edits (Vol. 2) (Not On Label)
Format: 12
Country: US?
Year: 2002
Catalog #: UGEDT002

Tracklisting:
A Untitled
B1 Untitled
B2 Untitled

Note:
Original white label with 3 disco edits. Tracks A  B1 got bootlegged on UGE
002?


Yes, this is the ORIGINAL ugly edits #2. The one with 2 tracks is the
rip-off.
The B2 is also featured on the fake Ugly Edits Vol.6.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) crazy african electronic shizz

2004-11-11 Thread Maarten Baute
 Have you seen/heard this?
 
 http://www.crammed.be/konono/index.htm
 
 I want one of them speakers on a pole. that looks dope.

And the music is GREAT!!

I like really dig that sound. Very original.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com


(313) qoutation

2004-10-25 Thread Maarten Baute

Hi,

I heard a nice qoutation in the outro of a track by anthony shakir (the B1 
on the the fake left, go right plan on the songs for my mother ep) that 
goes a little like this:


also we remember everyone had their own personal style, everybody had an 
identifiable musical style, a musical voice. And if you didn´t have that, 
you didn´t get signed. The problem today is that they have turned music into 
selling bags of potato chips where everybody sounds alike, looks alike and 
that's what's the problem is today


I couldn't say it better! It is deffo the voice of an black male, probably 
some disco/soul guy (with vision).


Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/ 



Re: (313) panic in detroit lp

2004-09-30 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi Jurren,

 anyone know if that panic in detroit lp was bootlegged/reissued recently?
 http://www.discogs.com/release/4731 just saw a copy for 20 euro's, and
would
 like to know if i should run back to buy it, or not?

this one has been bootlegged as well and with a sound quality so poor you
have to boost your gains and eq's to their maximum level to hear some music.
I never experienced such a bat pressing, never...

The pressing on of the relics lp was not 10 times as good imo.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Underground Resistance - World 2 World

2004-09-19 Thread Maarten Baute
 I've been buying records for a few years now (since 1997), but I still
don't have the World 2 World ep. Is it the only record on Underground
Resistance that hasn't been repressed? And does anyone know why? 'Cause it's
a shame I can't get a hold on this one. 

I sell my copy for EUR 6,00. Don´t like it anymore, especially the track
amazon. I really don´t understand why people like that one so much (crap
production, etc...)

Actually, I sell all my UR records (except for jaguar).

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Underground Resistance - World 2 World

2004-09-19 Thread Maarten Baute
 Fair enough, but I dont really get where you are coming from on that one.
 I've always dug Amazon as Ive always found it a very visual piece of music
 if you get what I mean.

Apart from Amazon I think World 2 World is a good (if not great) record
actually. I truely understand why people are refering to this as one of the
best records in techno history. I used to like most of the classic UR
records a lot, but lately I came to realize that I don´t like to listen to
UR stuff that much anymore. I just don´t like the classic UR sound anymore.
I think it's because (among other reasons) it sounds dated to my ears, wich
is not the case with many carl craig and rhythim is rhythim productions.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) ugly edit freddie hubbard

2004-09-18 Thread Maarten Baute
 Which ugly edit was it that had the edit of Freddie hubbard's little 
 sunflower?

It was the third one.

Cheers,
Maarten


Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Maarten Baute
 How many of you actually use samples in your music. I'm just curious.

EVERY sound I use in my productions is a sample! I mostly sample single
notes from soul/funk/disco/jazz/krautrock/postpunk records. I am now making
a record with an organ key of a herbie hancock song, a clap from body
music by the strikers, a kick from an old disco record, another organ from
a lonnie liston smith recording, a shaker from a marvin gaye record (I
think), a drumloop (wich I cut up entirely) from a donald byrd recording,
etc...

Ofcourse, I don´t have to clear anything because any of those samples is
unrecognizable, because they are mostly single notes. And if they would
bring me to court, I will kill the one who brought me there. I am not
joking...

Cheers,
Maarten




Re: (313) All Uncleared Sampling Ruled Illegal

2004-09-08 Thread Maarten Baute
From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 EVERY sound I use in my productions is a sample! I mostly sample single
 notes from soul/funk/disco/jazz/krautrock/postpunk records. I am now
making
 a record with an organ key of a herbie hancock song, a clap from body
 music by the strikers, a kick from an old disco record, another organ
from
 a lonnie liston smith recording, a shaker from a marvin gaye record (I
 think), a drumloop (wich I cut up entirely) from a donald byrd recording,
 etc...

Ofcourse, all this sampling causes a lot of noise in the background, wich is
GREAT. That way, I don´t have to add a noise channel myself ;-)

I like my stuff a bit dirty.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Emanon

2004-09-08 Thread Maarten Baute
Emanon appeared first on MS 15 as a nameless track (eman on = no name,
backwards). Take your transmat 15 record, it is called the beginning. Look
at the A side and you see 2 tracks... there you go.

The mix on bio rhythms is a different one though, with some mad
hihat-shuffeling going on.

Cheers,
Maarten



(313) recent kdj stuff

2004-09-02 Thread Maarten Baute
Am I the only one who thinks that the B-side of that new KDJ private
collection is some of the worst music made in the history of mankind? Sounds
like a soundtrack of a real bad comedy movie. Ooh.. and listen to those
vocals, just doesn´t make any sense to me. The A-side is not that much
better IMHO. I can´t believe that this is created by the man who gave us
amazing tracks like J.A.N., Dem Young Sconies, Shades Of Jae, In Loving
Memory, The Thief That Stole My Sad Days, ...

*just a personal opinion, please do not kill me*

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



(313) nite grooves house mix

2004-08-10 Thread Maarten Baute
 nite grooves 

recorded by Deviant (aka Mark Warden, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) somewhere in
London in 1998

t 72:16

stream (real audio):
http://www.morthenkiang.com/mixes/deviant-nite_grooves.ram
download (mp3): http://datavibe.net/~mkiang/deviant-nite_grooves.mp3

or access directly from: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html

01) naomi daniel - feel the fire (chez d' trent dub) [ planet e ]
02) fruit loops - the message is love [ definitive ]
03) the r.a.s.e - get on up [ strobe ]
04) paul johnson - aww sh*t [ relief ]
05) gene farris - cosmic coast [ force inc. music works ]
06) the hayden andre project - tribal life (original hardcore tribal mix)
[ strobe ]
07) qx-1 - love injection (eddie's answer mix) [ rhythm beat ]
08) infra-red - love honey [ strobe ]
09) roy davis jr - i´m hungry [ sex trax ]
10) rené et gaston - quel casse-tête! [ fresh fruit ]
11) infra-red - the verge [ strobe ]
12) basement jaxx - samba magic [ atlantic jaxx ]
13) mark the 909 king, roy davis jr.  trackman - the power [ dj exclusive ]
14) terry lee brown jr. - here we go [ plastic city ]
15) dan curtin - cascade (dawn mix) [ strictly rhythm ]
16) trevor loveys - the 2s and 5s [ blue basique ]
17) gemini - ahi [ substance ]
18) wink - higher state of consciousness [ strictly rhythm ]
19) naomi daniel - stars (sub dub) [ planet e ]
20) gemini - de bass [ substance ]
21) terry lee brown jr. - back to reception [ plastic city ]

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) greetings from larry levan

2004-07-25 Thread Maarten Baute
Dear Ha,

From: ha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What a great track. Where can I find this bootleg? I presume that the
 original is quite hard to find.

 i got it from juno.co.uk

could you please tell something more about this boot? What was the cat# on
the record and what was written on the labels?

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com



(313) panic in detroit

2004-07-25 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi,

I noticed that the panic in detroit compilation on BUZZ (Belgium) is
bootlegged (an unofficial repress so to speak). From online audio samples I
conclude that the pressing is really bad and there is a lot of surface
noise. Can anyone confirm this? Is this record playable?

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) greetings from larry levan

2004-07-24 Thread Maarten Baute
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, ha wrote:

 hahaha nice thing to say.. esp to someone from japan..

 http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a9227118/lale.mp3

 it's *Soichi Terada  Shinichiro Yokota -* Sun Shower /(feat Naoko
 Shimada - Larry Levan mix), /just came finally out on a bootleg and it's
 one of my favs right now

What a great track. Where can I find this bootleg? I presume that the
original is quite hard to find.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Dark Comedy

2004-07-23 Thread Maarten Baute
 thi s one will blow away the peacefrog one easily..

 honest

I hope so, because there were only 2 good tracks on the peacefrog album. The
rest was filler IMHO. The A1 is real crap to my ears. ;)


Cheers!
Maarten



Re: (313) kenny larkin - metaphor

2004-07-05 Thread Maarten Baute
 Wow, that whole site has some of the most overpriced records Ive ever
seen.
 The By Night EP on UR is $56!! Its 5.99 at Submerge.

Ha! And that guy is from Belgium, just like I am.

Ouch.. look at these prices:

http://www9.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=369995602key=81817currency=USseller=
FREAKYTUNESfilt_section_ignore=1disp_ad_format_mode=0table=adsshowall=1
disp_ad_format_type=Regular+FormatS=Browse+All

Most of these records can be found in London second hand stores for not over
2 quid.

And on a side note:
I am cleaning up my collection and I now realized that those new moodymann
records (2003/2004) are not that good then I tought they were. They sound
way too pollished and clean. I will have to sell them back...

The same goes for those amp fiddler ep's on Guinine and the Dwele album on
virgin. After being quite excited about them I just can't listen to them
anymore. I think J.T. opened my eyes and eares by pointing out that Amp is
not much of a good singer.

Oh.. and the new $tinkworx ep is great, as is the last record (sides K and
L) of the natural aspirations album by the rotating assembly (the other
records weren´t much though).

Cheers,
Maarten





Re: (313) Re: what's the most people are willing to pay for rekkids?

2004-07-05 Thread Maarten Baute
Jesse Saunders On  On (Jes Say records) 12 1984 $60.00

I can understand you want to have the original 'first house' recording. Too
bad it's a crap track (IMHO).

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Re: what's the most people are willing to pay for rekkids?

2004-07-05 Thread Maarten Baute
I paid $150 for 'designer music - good girls'. I wouldn´t do it again
though. I bought a sh*tload of records for $60 each, but wouldn´t do that
agian either. I did these things in my crazy days, about one year ago ;-)

Now I refuse to pay more than $30 dollar for a 12 (and it has to be really
rare).

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: FW: (313) Re: what's the most people are willing to pay forrekkids?

2004-07-05 Thread Maarten Baute
 yup, original copies of likemind 2 and 4 suddenly appeared with classic
nuron tracks, as if from another dimension, for the price of a normal 12.
made me a happy camper.

Ah... now there's a record or two where I would like to make an exception to
my no more than $30 for a 12 rule. Classic stuff!

Cheers,
Maarten



(313) re: theo parrish tape

2004-06-15 Thread Maarten Baute
Hi,

can anyone id the track playing at 87:30 in this new theo parrish mix? It's
a lush disco-soul track with a real smooth bassline. It contains the vocals
nobody can make me feel the way you make me feel, baby
(http://www.deephousepage.com).

ta,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) track ID from Ron Hardy mix

2004-06-11 Thread Maarten Baute
 BTW, still on the Hardy tip, do you know if those Ron' Edits 12 which 
 recently surfaced were actually taken from an original Hardy tape? Or 
 were recently (digitally?) produced based on Hardy's recordings?
 IMHO, the sound quality from the 12s is too good to be taken from an 
 old tape, but the edits are very similar to the ones we can hear in some 
 Hardy's mixes on deephousepage.com

I am quite sure those are rebuilds.

Cheers,
Maarten


Re: (313) Track ID......

2004-05-17 Thread Maarten Baute
 Looking to find out the name of the Moodymann track with someone (I think
it
 might be Prince), speaking about when being on tour your basically bring
 your studio with you. I know it's on KDJ, but don't know the
name.

It's KDJ 30, titled J.A.N.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) track ID from Ron Hardy/Deephousepage

2004-05-13 Thread Maarten Baute
 # 1072 Ron Hardy Live @ Edge of the Looking Glass, Chicago

 then another (?) wicked percussion track comes in at around 15:00 and Ron
 cranks the bass even more
 and a dubbed out vocals comes on - seriously deep
 (I love the way he just pushes those EQs)

 what are these tracks he's playing at these times?

This is supposed to be a rework of the O'Jays - I Love Music. It isn´t one
by Hardy... but I forgot who did it.

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) New/Old KDJ

2004-04-23 Thread Maarten Baute
 I'm glad to see another moodymann album out. Does anyone know if the
 track black mahogany is the same track that appeared on KDJ 17 under
 the same name, as well as on one of the bootlegs?

 I really hope its the same track because I can't find a legit copy
 (until now maybe?)

Nope it is a different track. The track black mahogany (with an 'y') on
KDJ sounds a lot lick mahogany brown wich is on the B-side. A stripped
down version of that track is on the album mahogani brown on peacefrog.

Cheers,
Maarten



(313) correction: black mahogani

2004-04-23 Thread Maarten Baute
Black Mahogani on the new album is the same as the one on KDJ17. I was
wrong when I said that this wasn´t the case. I was judging from the samples
on the website from cisco records, but apparently they mixed up some sound
files! Sorry.

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) new moodymann album

2004-04-16 Thread Maarten Baute
 Tristan said:
 I don't want to buy this album because Moodymann albums seem to be
designed
 to miff fans - full stop, with the number of re-released tracks on almost
 every one of them. It's not like *this* policy is designed to get the
music
 into the hands of those who want it most. It just seems to be
antagonistic.

A good reason to buy the new moodymann album is for the last track. It is
called black mahogani and was never released before (it is not the same
track as black mahogany on kdj 17). It sounds like a jazz version of Basic
Channel 09. On the album is also some kind of jazz version of runaway wich
is really nice. So Tristan... do yourself a favor and buy the album because
I know those unreleased tracks are something right up your sleeve.

Cheers,
Maarten



(313) new moodymann album

2004-04-15 Thread Maarten Baute
black mahogani

allready out in Japan.

listen here (with realplayer):
http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100208

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/


(313) new kenny larkin album

2004-04-15 Thread Maarten Baute
out in japan:

listen here (with realplayer):
http://www.cisco-records.co.jp/cgi/item_detail.php?qId=100326

(sorry.. just saw it now.. otherwise I would have put it in my previous
post)

Cheers,
Maarten - http://www.morthenkiang.com/



Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions - Ubiquity repress

2004-03-25 Thread Maarten Baute
 Anyone have this record from 2000?  Sound's enticing.

 http://www.ubiquityrecords.com/theo_parrish.html

Ubiquity:
 Frustratingly for many dance music lovers only 1000 copies were ever
released on CD and no full length album was ever pressed.

I don´t know what they´ve been eating, but I and many other people have this
on vinyl. This record was widely available at the time so I don´t know why
they are repressing it on a different label.

http://www.discogs.com/release/1302

Cheers,
Maarten



Re: (313) Theo Parrish - Parallel Dimensions - Ubiquity repress

2004-03-25 Thread Maarten Baute
 Anyone have this record from 2000?  Sound's enticing.

 Scott, I think this is the record that was released by peacefrog over 2
 LP's
 Certainly has the same title anyway..

No, it is a different record. The record on peacefrog was titled First
Floor.

Cheers,
Maarten



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