(313) pontiac techno fest
are you planning to attend? what do you think of it? please email me offlist if you'd be interested in talking about it. thanks, tP
RE: (313) Tim Pratt info????
hey there mr. arnold...somebody looking for me? you can hit me on my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'll be traveling back to SF today so i probably won't be back online till thursday. i had a great time, as usual, in detroit. thanks to all the artists who performed for free at the festival. best, tP Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:58:48 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: john arnold Subject: (313) Tim Pratt info Message-ID: does anybody know how I can get in contact with Tim Pratt the writer for Free Press, xlr8tr, etc. thanks
(313) new york cares
to: new yorkers of some ages - anything of interest of the electronic music sort happening in new york city this weekend? i will be there thursday through monday afternoon for marvelous adventures and such. record shopping too. fun. haven't been there since like 96, so, yeah, it's been a while. tP
(313) Stewart Walker remixes Martin Gore
has anybody heard the Stewart Walker remixes of the new Martin L. Gore (of Depeche Mode) single I Cast A Lonesome Shadow? they're on the Stardust single, from the forthcoming Counterfeit2 album by Gore. release date for full-length album is slated for april 29 though the single just arrived today. The tracks are pretty good, if not quite similar (one is vocal mix and other is instrumental mix both by Walker). Definitely a Depeche Mode vibe, with Stewart's intricate production skills shining through. i was surprised to see Walker's name on a major label, that's for sure. tP
(313) jurren baars' sunday mix
having the luxury of being on the west coast, i'm still coasting on my groovy sunday morning (alas, less than 10 minutes left). i'm giving props out to jurren's nice sunday mix he just posted. with my steaming coffee next to me, a zonked-out cat at my side, jurren's lazily funky-ass mix was a nice way to ease into my sunday. the Sunday NY Times will have to wait a while longer now where's my pipe?? http://users.skynet.be/fa327222/mixes/jurren_baars-untitled1.mp3 tP
(313) jurren sunday mix....part 2
oh and also thanks to Maarten for posting and not to quibble...but sunday morning SUNSET??? the sun rises AND falls with this mix apparently. cheers tP To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: beautiful sunday morning sunset - we celebrate with some music Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hi, I´ve uploaded a mix with some nice tunes from listmember Jurren on my site - feedback appreciated.) untitled #1 (by jurren baars) stream real audio: http://www.morthenkiang.com/mixes/jurren_baars-untitled1.ram download mp3: http://users.skynet.be/fa327222/mixes/jurren_baars-untitled1.mp3 more details: http://www.morthenkiang.com/soundcollage.html 01) theo parrish - summertime is here [ sound signature ] 02) mos def - universal magnetic (instrumental) [ rawkus ] 03) rednose distrikt - din-ixen [ rushhour ] w/ lil´ louis - nyce slo [ ffrr ] 04) sade - maureen [ epic ] (´85) 05) prince - strange relationship [ paisley park ] (´87) 06) herbie hancock - magic number [ columbia ] (´81) 07) rednose distrikt - na na [ hum hum ] 08) platinum pied pipers - ridin´ high [ ubiquity ] 09) tony allen - the man with the drum [ comet ] 10) rusty waters - illumination [ sound signature ] 11) n´dambi - call me (yam who dub) [ dam ] 12) newworldaquarium - themefrom [ delsin ] 13) marvin gaye - funk me [ motown ] (´81)
[313] global underground - mixing in the studio
Most of the Global Underground CDs are not live mixes at all. The majority of mix CDs are produced in the studio. Or in some cases, CD mixers are used. I was shocked when I looked at the back of Carl Craig's recent Shadow Records mix Onsumothasheeat. it says he used two CD players (i believe Pioneer, but i can't recall for sure - i don't own the CD) and an effects unit for the mix. Recently, I interviewed Darren Emerson and I asked him whether his last Global Underground CD was live and he said I put it all together in the studio. You're not Djing it. also, talking about his upcoming Global Underground Singapore release (coming out in July, recorded new year's eve), Emerson said they recorded his entire set, then Listened to what I played and put it all together in the studio and recaptured the performance. The last one I did on computer, but (singapore) was half live and half computer. Of course, I've done a few tricks with ProTools and plug-ins. He went on to say that a lot of people do it on the computer, but you don't get that human feeling, that human filter. However, it can come off as too polished. really, i think global underground (as well as many other labels) invests so much money in these releases (and they sell pretty well), they want perfection. on the other hand, there's nothing like a live set. Carl Cox's live CD he released last year included crowd noises and came off as much more authentic. but who knows..they probably spruced it up. tP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
one more time - DEMF trips from outside the U.S.
A few weeks back, I posted a message saying I was interested in talking to some folks coming to Detroit for the festival. I received a number of great responses, but need a few more. So if you're heading to the DEMF and you live outside the U.S., I'd still like to hear from you. This is for a story that will run in a Detroit-area publication. Basically, I'm interested in finding out why you're coming, how far in advance you had to make your plans, if it's going to be costly to you, what you expect, if you've ever been to the U.S. and/or Detroit, if you're coming by yourself or with a group, and so on. Please email me back privately. Thank you! Tim Pratt
top 13 for 4/20 -- laptop thread
here's a list of at-home listening stuff I've been enjoying lately, some old, some new. Plaid - Double Figure (warp) Mouse On Mars - Idiology (thrill jockey) t-1000 - Last DJ On Earth (pure sonik) staedtizism 2 ~scape: compiled by Pole (~scape) Kraftwerk Expo Remix: Rolando, UR, Francois K, Orbital (emi) Tino's Breaks Volume 5: Dub (dub-L) --and/or-- Jack Dangers Hello Friends (shadow) Wagon Christ - Musipal (ninja tune) Floppy Sounds - Short Term Memories (wave) The KLF - Chill Out (tvt) Richie Hawtin/Pete Namlook - From Within 3 (minus) Bonobo - Animal Magic (tru thoughts) LTJ Bukem - Producer (good looking) regarding the recent thread on laptop use in live settings: I just caught Chicks On Speed and Kid606 last night in SF. i've seen 606 three times now and it always strikes me as funny that people stare at him while he sits in a chair looking at two apple Powerbooks and messing with a Kaos Pad. i don't necessarily see anything wrong with artists using laptops live, but i think people just want something to look at. remember when techno was billed as a faceless music, when the music was supposed to be more important than the DJ/producer? ah, how times have changed. cheers tP
DEMF plans for people outside the U.S.
With the DEMF less than two months away, I'm sure many people outside the U.S. have already planned or are making plans to make the trek to Detroit. I'm working on a story about global attraction to this event and I'd be interested in talking to people about their travel plans. Doesn't matter if you attended last year or not. Please email me back privately. Thanks! oh yeah...also - Anyone in the Bay Area catch Cari Lekebusch and Joel Mull last Thursday? Lekebusch was especially good, I thought. Billy Nasty is playing this Thursday.
Jeff Mills Detroit show
I sent this to the list on Monday but for some reason, it did not go through. I recently interviewed Jeff Mills and I'd like to talk to a few people about The Wizard and his impact on Detroit techno. I'm especially interested in people that saw him spin at any Detroit-metropolitan area (an example would be the Nectarine in Ann Arbor) in the late '80s/early '90s or remember listening to his radio shows. This would be for possible publication. If interested, please email me privately sometime today. Thanks. Tim Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
Hawtin, Acquaviva rip it up in SF
Richie Hawtin and John Acquaviva played rock solid sets in San Francisco Sunday night. Sure, the club probably wouldn't be my first choice (1015 folsom - with a sometimes shaky, cheesy crowd), but the sound system there IS excellent, which helps. John's set was funky AND fresh, while Richie's set was fierce, pummelling and incredibly technical. Nothing like starting off the week right by being sonically blown apart by Hawtin's Techno mayhem. In a somewhat related note, we spotted Detroit's DJ Bone at the same club Saturday night, waiting in the guest list line for the Deep Dish show. And the guy working the door at 1015 went to Cass Tech (he spotted my Michigan ID). Detroiters are everywhere out here. cheers. Tim Pratt ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
A Guy Called Gerald hits SF
I realize A Guy Called Gerald isn't Detroit, but he has a lot of connections with Detroit and also played at the DEMF. Anyway, Gerald played three sets in SF last night at Amoeba Records, a Beta Lounge live set and at Justice League. I missed Amoeba, but at Beta Lounge (www.betalounge.com), he played predominantly House and Techno and very little Drum 'n' Bass (and looked very bored for most of the set). Yet, at Justice League, Gerald played some grinding Techstep for an hour, then stopped and started playing Tech/House to end the evening. Good stuff if you're into A Guy Called Gerald, definitely a wide variety. tim pratt ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
alan oldham (t-1000) set ruled
i also caught most of alan's set at the rawhide in SF friday night and would definitely agree with Phred's assessment of the set - alan ripped it up! the crowd was totally into the music and party organizers were told by the club owners that they've never seen so many people dancing at one time to a DJ. at the end of the night, the whole bar erupted in applause. people are still talking about it today at Listen.com, so methinks this was a winner. re: stacey and derrick set - i did not go inside, but the locale was less than to be desired, especially since x-games party was happening on the other side (and i was at x-games party for awhile - cool lineup, lame crowd), thereby increasing the idiot quotient. Beta Lounge did have some DJs spinning in the private lounge area at the x-games event, but the beefy security guards proclaimed it offlimits to almost everyone in attendance. Date: 19 Aug 2000 22:01:24 - To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SF report Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Detroit was representin' in San Francisco last night. Alan Oldham played a really good driving set at the Listen.com event, preceded by my friends Forest Green and then Andy J (Astral Matrix) playing live. And Carlos Souffront was there too, taking it all in; I believe he's on the bill tonight at the same location (the Rawhide II at 7th Folsom). Carlos is in town for about a week, doing the tourist thing and checking out the record stores :) I also went over to the King St. Garage for the XLR8R party with Stacey Pullen and Derrick May. This was less than wonderful, which is no surprise given my lengthy and difficult history with 174 King. I only caught the end of Stacey's set, and everyone seemed pretty into it, but Derrick's was all fits and starts. Giving due, the crowd wasn't really focused either. I've had some great nights at King St but this wasn't one of them. Anyway, I finally got to see AO, and you have to admit, the man really enjoys what he does :) There was a problem with a loose floorboard, and even though the event manager put some foam underneath the turntables before his set, the needles were bouncin'. So Alan stops the music, explains the situation and says, you know, I really can mix or something to that effect :) After everyone close in backed away a bit, things were fine after that, and he gace us maybe not the totally banging stuff but pretty much, which is quite something to see in San Francisco. phred ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
Burden Brothers inquiry
I'm in the process of putting together a story on the Burden Brothers (Octave One, RNG) in relation to their 10th anniversary of 430 West and their impact on Detroit techno for the Detroit Free Press. I have already talked to the Burdens and I am now attempting to get input from others. It has proven to be more difficult than I had imagined getting in touch with people for this story, so I am posting this in the hopes of attracting anyone who feels like they could and/or would want to go on record. Whether you're an artist, a producer, a promotor, or simply a fan of the Burdens' music and labels, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. Please contact me via email privately within the next few days if you're interested. Also, Thanks to those who responded to my posting a few weeks ago regarding the WEMF in Ontario. Due to circumstances beyond my control, the story was pulled at the last minute due to space constraints. Such is life with newspapers sometimes. Thanks Tim Pratt ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
World Electronic Music Festival 2000
Is anyone planning on attending the World Electronic Music Festival (WEMF) in Ontario July 14-17? If so, I'd like to talk to you. Please email me privately. Thanks! timmmiP ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
downtempo groovin'
As a longtime fan of nearly every genre of electronic music (well, maybe not gabber or happy hardcore, but still...), I have to say that downtempo has definitely warmed my ears the last few years. Some people confuse trip-hop with downtempo, and frankly, a lot of descriptions depend on who you talk to and where you're living, but I usually think of downtempo as being a bit more abstract, sometimes vocals but if so, sampled and/or looped vocals (not always, however). When I think of a downtempo label, the first one that comes to mind is Ninja Tune. I find that a lot of downtempo stuff has hip-hop elements melded with jazzy stuff, but I also think downtempo has as much to do with a certain type of groove and lifestyle -- namely, smoking pot/ganja/kind buds (et all) and downtempo DEFINITELY plays a big role and enhances the musical vibe. That said, I don't think it's necessary that you smoke the ganj to enjoy downtempo, but the two do go hand in hand. I like stuff from Fila Brazillia (they have yet to release a bad album), Kruder Dorfmeister (which includes offshoots such as Tosca and Peace Orchestra) Thievery Corporation, pretty much anything on Ninja Tune (Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible Force, Amon Tobin, Jazzanova, Up Bustle Out, Funki Porcini, DJ Food etc.). I think David Holmes' stuff borders on downtempo and it's not that jazzy. Nightmares On Wax is another good one (he even has an album titled Smoker's Delight from '95). And then we haven't even begun to approach the similarities between downtempo and IDM or experimental stuff (aphex twin, autechre, squarepusher), stuff i got into before downtempo reared its friendly head. And you know, you can never go wrong with The Orb, chillmaster supreme. Boards Of Canada are like downtempo and IDM combined and pretty much rule, as well. I'm sure there's stuff that I'm forgetting. And besides recloose, theorem and some of the others you mentioned, I'm sure there's more out there even in 313 land. btw, whatever happened to raves or parties that included Chill-Out Rooms? Used to be there was always a cool-down room, but not so much anymore, which i think is too bad. that be all timmmiP (with a new email address and everything.) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:56:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Definition of Downtempo Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would you describe Downtempo? I've seen Recloose and Hogans mentioned, = and I am familiar with their music, which is very jazzy. Downtempo=3Djazzy?= ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
downtempo groovin'
As a longtime fan of nearly every genre of electronic music (well, maybe not gabber or happy hardcore, but still...), I have to say that downtempo has definitely warmed my ears the last few years. Some people confuse trip-hop with downtempo, and frankly, a lot of descriptions depend on who you talk to and where you're living, but I usually think of downtempo as being a bit more abstract, sometimes vocals but if so, sampled and/or looped vocals (not always, however). When I think of a downtempo label, the first one that comes to mind is Ninja Tune. I find that a lot of downtempo stuff has hip-hop elements melded with jazzy stuff, but I also think downtempo has as much to do with a certain type of groove and lifestyle -- namely, smoking pot/ganja/kind buds (et all) and downtempo DEFINITELY plays a big role and enhances the musical vibe. That said, I don't think it's necessary that you smoke the ganj to enjoy downtempo, but the two do go hand in hand. I like stuff from Fila Brazillia (they have yet to release a bad album), Kruder Dorfmeister (which includes offshoots such as Tosca and Peace Orchestra) Thievery Corporation, pretty much anything on Ninja Tune (Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible Force, Amon Tobin, Jazzanova, Up Bustle Out, Funki Porcini, DJ Food etc.). I think David Holmes' stuff borders on downtempo and it's not that jazzy. Nightmares On Wax is another good one (he even has an album titled Smoker's Delight from '95). And then we haven't even begun to approach the similarities between downtempo and IDM or experimental stuff (aphex twin, autechre, squarepusher), stuff i got into before downtempo reared its friendly head. And you know, you can never go wrong with The Orb, chillmaster supreme. Boards Of Canada are like downtempo and IDM combined and pretty much rule, as well. I'm sure there's stuff that I'm forgetting. And besides recloose, theorem and some of the others you mentioned, I'm sure there's more out there even in 313 land. btw, whatever happened to raves or parties that included Chill-Out Rooms? Used to be there was always a cool-down room, but not so much anymore, which i think is too bad. that be all timmmiP (with a new email address and everything.) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:56:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Definition of Downtempo Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would you describe Downtempo? I've seen Recloose and Hogans mentioned, = and I am familiar with their music, which is very jazzy. Downtempo=3Djazzy?= ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
downtempo groovin'
As a longtime fan of nearly every genre of electronic music (well, maybe not gabber or happy hardcore, but still...), I have to say that downtempo has definitely warmed my ears the last few years. Some people confuse trip-hop with downtempo, and frankly, a lot of descriptions depend on who you talk to and where you're living, but I usually think of downtempo as being a bit more abstract, sometimes vocals but if so, sampled and/or looped vocals (not always, however). When I think of a downtempo label, the first one that comes to mind is Ninja Tune. I find that a lot of downtempo stuff has hip-hop elements melded with jazzy stuff, but I also think downtempo has as much to do with a certain type of groove and lifestyle -- namely, smoking pot/ganja/kind buds (et all) and downtempo DEFINITELY plays a big role and enhances the musical vibe. That said, I don't think it's necessary that you smoke the ganj to enjoy downtempo, but the two do go hand in hand. I like stuff from Fila Brazillia (they have yet to release a bad album), Kruder Dorfmeister (which includes offshoots such as Tosca and Peace Orchestra) Thievery Corporation, pretty much anything on Ninja Tune (Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible Force, Amon Tobin, Jazzanova, Up Bustle Out, Funki Porcini, DJ Food etc.). I think David Holmes' stuff borders on downtempo and it's not that jazzy. Nightmares On Wax is another good one (he even has an album titled Smoker's Delight from '95). And then we haven't even begun to approach the similarities between downtempo and IDM or experimental stuff (aphex twin, autechre, squarepusher), stuff i got into before downtempo reared its friendly head. And you know, you can never go wrong with The Orb, chillmaster supreme. Boards Of Canada are like downtempo and IDM combined and pretty much rule, as well. I'm sure there's stuff that I'm forgetting. And besides recloose, theorem and some of the others you mentioned, I'm sure there's more out there even in 313 land. btw, whatever happened to raves or parties that included Chill-Out Rooms? Used to be there was always a cool-down room, but not so much anymore, which i think is too bad. that be all timmmiP (with a new email address and everything.) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:56:00 -0400 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: Roberto Ty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Definition of Downtempo Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How would you describe Downtempo? I've seen Recloose and Hogans mentioned, = and I am familiar with their music, which is very jazzy. Downtempo=3Djazzy?= ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
RE: T-shirt designs
Wow, the t-shirt designs all look pretty cool. But at the moment, I favor #5, #8 and #10 entries. that's my 1 cent response. timmmip __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
430 west info
ok, i got a last-minute/better-late-than-never question. What was the entire lineup at the 430 west party? I was there for random noise generation, but missed octave one's set. who else performed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks peace timmmip __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
detroit vs. bay area, fila brazillia
after spending more than three days immersed in detroit techno last week, i'm spending this weekend in the San Francisco Bay area looking for jobs and whatnot. The interesting thing is how so different the two scenes are. Bay area is known for such a wide diversity of sounds, which i can definitely appreciate, but the two big scenes of late seem to be the turntablism/hip-hop thing and the trance stuff. last night i was listening to this late night radio show called subsonic and it was pretty cool, though a bit heavy on the trance stuff. to me, trance hasn't evolved much since its first heyday in the 93-95 amid the Goa and happy hardcore trends. anyway, despite the fact that trance is more popular in the West (John digweed is spinning tues, for example), i did notice a few interesting detroit names on some flyers on picked up at a head shop in Mountain View (basically, Silicon Valley): Quest July 1, Santa Clara Fairgrounds, San Jose -- Richie Hawtin with .. Terry Francis, Kevin Yost, Dieselboy, J Majik, Fierce, Dara, Sage, Christopher Lawrence, Joshua Ryan, Taylor, Doran, Mars, etc. www.silverpearl.com Metropolis June 17, Santa Clara Fairgrounds -- Stacey Pullen ...with Gene Farris, DJ Dan, Sandra Collins, Angel Alanis, De La Soul, Rahzel (roots), danny tha wildchild, www.clockworkeventz.com Cyberfest July 22 -- Santa Clara -- Juan Atkins . . . with Paul Oakenfold(! ugh!!), Carl Cox, ED Rush Optical, Digital Underground, Aphrodite, Mix Master Mike, Wish Fm, dave ralph, bt. www.coolworldprod.com lastly, anyone into fila brazillia??? very cool stuff. any downtempo fans? detroit still rules timmmiP __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com
demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
Couple 'o things:
1. I was told Isotope 217 and Laurent are
definitely off the bill. I do not know why. i
would like to know why jeff mills is not on the
lineup. i hope he just shows up somewhere.
2. The Orb was my real introduction to techno
music ('91's the orb's adventure's beyond the
ultraworld) as far as taking it to another level
and the first time i heard it, i did not
understand why there was so much talking,
samples, spaceships, etc.., i cringe everytime i
read my cd review i wrote while working at my
college newspaper . . . but i digress.
I would cite Depeche Mode as my earliest
influence, only because it was the first band
that truly got me interested in electronic
sounds, textures, etc. in music. the mid-'80s
stuff is what i got into, though it was after the
fact.
And i went from being a pseudo-metalhead to
loving depeche mode. as one might expect, my
friends at the time didn't really understand. i
made new friends soon after...
but i also was into a lot of wax trax and related
stuff including 242, front line assembly,
ministry, meat beat manifesto (who i think is
sorely underrated), PTP, acid horse, revolting
cocks, even NIN.
hell, i always thought the KLF were pretty good
cheeky fun.
K-L-F!!! uh-huh, uh-huh.
see ya'll this weekend.
dance til ya bleed with joy. i know i will.
timmmiP
detroit science [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
05/25/2000
05:12:43 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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Subject: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
a conversation that started between dave the
wave dresden
and i @ wmc this
year centered around how people got into the
scene, and i
started an
informal poll while i was down there. ratio?
about 60%
industrial, 40%
hip hop.
and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy
metal.
hmmm
but those 2 avenues do seem to be the way that
just about
everyone got into the scene.
any other neithers?
me? hey, i can goth dance with the best of
'em... the
screwing in the
light bulb... the killing the cockroach... and
of course
the oh no the
sun.
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7th city party - where it be?
Does anyone happen to know what the name of this venue is? Or is it not listed on purpose? thanks timmmiP saturday, may 27 7th City, featuring DBX (Daniel Bell), Anthony Shake Shakir, John Tejada, Shawn Rudiman and other special guests. Midnight to 6 a.m. 1486 Gratiot Ave. near Eastern Market in Detroit. = Editor-in-Chief Music Revue 820 Monroe Ave. NW Suite 211-A Grand Rapids, Mich. 49503 616.458.1011 x. 324 fax: 616.458.2285 __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
