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[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i can sorta see ken's point. i wasn't even remotely insulted by any of > this, but also- there's plenty of people on this list who don't personally > know each other and therefore can be made to feel uncomfortable. Nancy boy. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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i can sorta see ken's point. i wasn't even remotely insulted by any of this, but also- there's plenty of people on this list who don't personally know each other and therefore can be made to feel uncomfortable. but whatever- no blood, no foul- right? On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: > > > > > > > > ken, > > if youre refferring to atomlys comments he only stated that because he > knows yussel (josh) and yes, hes jewish. i think atom just found it funny > that z99 made nazi comments (jokingly, im sure) towards someone that in > fact is jewish. it was just a tounge in cheek way of pointing out someone > jumping too quick on a joke and having it backfire, because the subject > in > question is jewish. > > > dont worry. the only one around these parts who is truly going to be > offensive for a lil while is metowards tom. because he is without a > doubt the most pathetic excuse for a human being that has existed within > the confines of this (or any other hyperreal list) in a VERY long time. > > > > oh, and tom. > > > eat a dick, will you? > > > > derek. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Fabrizio Nahum wrote: > > > Thanks Ken > > > > f. > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Odeluga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:07 AM > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > > > Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of > > > insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're > > > jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. > > > > > > k > > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! > > > >> reminds me something:) > > > > > > > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > > > > > > > >-- > > > >:: atomly :: > > > > > > > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > > > >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... > > > >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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its alright. i think the absurdity is the point. put yeah- the word n*zi floating around on the internet probably just got us all on another list. On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Ken Odeluga wrote: > Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of > insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're > jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. > > k > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! > >> reminds me something:) > > > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > > > >-- > >:: atomly :: > > > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... > >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... > > > > > >
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so I take it the "313 List Love Connections" segment where we salute members who met and fell in love on 313 is out then? Sorry Diana, looks like we'll have to keep it quiet for *another* 10 years. :^) XOXOX sean on 8/6/04 12:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Boy this is going to be a fun party! > > > MEK > > > > "Thomas D. Cox, > Jr." To: <313@hyperreal.org> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: > h.com> Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > 08/06/2004 10:35 > AM > Please respond to > death > > > > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> oh, and tom. >> >> >> eat a dick, will you? > > well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep > down your throat > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > > > >
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Fella - how big do you want this wooden spoon mate? Martin On 6 Aug 2004, at 16:52, matrix313 wrote: LOL!! see? now *that's* what I call a insult! I knew if we applied some effort here we could achieve greatness! :^) I vote that we put off the 313 10th Anniversary parties for a few years. you know, just to give us all a little extra time to grow up. :^) sean "13 going on 30" deason on 8/6/04 11:35 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> oh, and tom. eat a dick, will you? well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep down your throat tom andythepooh.com
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aye:D the scene is thriving! lets organize mudfights at the anniversary party! round two. fight! ../z99 it was 06.08.2004 when u've been going like this:: ~ > LOL!! > see? now *that's* what I call a insult! I knew if we applied some effort > here we could achieve greatness! :^) > I vote that we put off the 313 10th Anniversary parties for a few years. you > know, just to give us all a little extra time to grow up. > :^) > sean "13 going on 30" deason > on 8/6/04 11:35 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> oh, and tom. >>> >>> >>> eat a dick, will you? >> >> well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep >> down your throat >> >> tom >> >> >> andythepooh.com >> >> >> >> >> ~
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Boy this is going to be a fun party! MEK "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." To: <313@hyperreal.org> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: h.com> Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party 08/06/2004 10:35 AM Please respond to death -- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >oh, and tom. > > >eat a dick, will you? well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep down your throat tom andythepooh.com
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LOL!! see? now *that's* what I call a insult! I knew if we applied some effort here we could achieve greatness! :^) I vote that we put off the 313 10th Anniversary parties for a few years. you know, just to give us all a little extra time to grow up. :^) sean "13 going on 30" deason on 8/6/04 11:35 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> oh, and tom. >> >> >> eat a dick, will you? > > well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep > down your throat > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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Ladies..simmer -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >oh, and tom. > > >eat a dick, will you? well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep down your throat tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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-- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >oh, and tom. > > >eat a dick, will you? well it certainly wont be yussels, since it seems to be balls deep down your throat tom andythepooh.com
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ken, if youre refferring to atomlys comments he only stated that because he knows yussel (josh) and yes, hes jewish. i think atom just found it funny that z99 made nazi comments (jokingly, im sure) towards someone that in fact is jewish. it was just a tounge in cheek way of pointing out someone jumping too quick on a joke and having it backfire, because the subject in question is jewish. dont worry. the only one around these parts who is truly going to be offensive for a lil while is metowards tom. because he is without a doubt the most pathetic excuse for a human being that has existed within the confines of this (or any other hyperreal list) in a VERY long time. oh, and tom. eat a dick, will you? derek. On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Fabrizio Nahum wrote: > Thanks Ken > > f. > - Original Message - > From: "Ken Odeluga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:07 AM > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of > > insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're > > jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. > > > > k > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! > > >> reminds me something:) > > > > > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > > > > > >-- > > >:: atomly :: > > > > > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > > >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... > > >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... > > > > > > > > > >
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Thanks Ken f. - Original Message - From: "Ken Odeluga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "atomly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of > insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're > jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. > > k > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! > >> reminds me something:) > > > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > > > >-- > >:: atomly :: > > > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... > >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... > >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... > > > > >
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Lighten up Ken, they're only having a laugh, no-one is being insulted -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:07 AM To: atomly; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. k > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! >> reminds me something:) > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > >-- >:: atomly :: > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates > > # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Is that kind of talk particularly necessary? There is a whole spectrum of insults at your disposal, I'd say leave off those ones - even if you're jewish yourself. Nothing good can come out of it. k > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! >> reminds me something:) > >Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. > >-- >:: atomly :: > >[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... >[ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... >[ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... > >
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'Satellite' (also) means 'spin-off', right? There's no reason for communities in whatever city not to have their OWN party. We could organise one in Sydney or Melbourne, you could have one in Detroit and London and Mars, wherever. Maybe rope in some new friends and let them know about the list. I am talking 'decentralising'. Also I think people should develop a sense of humour on this list, as does Sean. Life is too hard without fighting over such things. We are all friends, aren't we? ;) > Cyclone Wehner wrote: >> >>Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite >>parties. >> > are you insane? > > flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. > now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? > ... > > _ > MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl >
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] > YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! > reminds me something:) Those damn Jewish Nazis. Nobody ever suspects 'em. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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And what about those of us who were born in Minot, North Dakota? Am I supposed to be "doing it DIY" there? Or perhaps you were of the close-minded idea that everybody is born in a major urban area? This idea is as outdated as the notion that if my father is a blacksmith, so should I be. "We should all just accept our lot in life." Or maybe my family should have never left Europe in the first place. Better yet, maybe we should all be living near the Tigris or on the steppes of Africa. Moving to find opportunity is not a new or "American" concept as you tried to insinuate. I agree with your sentiment-- it is frustrating to live somewhere like Minneapolis (where I lived for two years) and watch everybody leave to greener pastures rather than trying to cultivate their own scene. I grew up a punk and participated in several grassroots punk venues (one of them in Fargo was even called the "DIY Center") and can respect these ideals, but you have to recognize that they're not practical in many situations. I recognize that, for example, living in Chicago, it's much easier for me to be an electronic musician and run a label (lots of distributors are located here, O'Hare has a direct flight to anywhere, etc) than it would be in Fargo. The costs of doing business there would just be so much higher that it would basically be impractical. The vast majority of these artists aren't moving because they don't care about their roots, they're moving because they love their art and want to be able to make the most out of it. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
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Anyone still enjoying this topic... ...thought not.
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YUSSEL NAZI!! NAZII!!11 HE BAD1 NO NAZI IN SCENE!!! reminds me something:) > we'll see how much you love them when theyre in nursing homes > because no one lives near them to help them. this is a very > american thing to do, move away, let your family rot. good job. i > bet theyll really appreciate that later in life living alone in > someplace called "sunnyside retirement village". > theres no being tied to anything. i expect more people to have a > sense of responsibility towards those people who raised them. but > im the spoiled one, right? i do love my parents - from the distance, i dont really need my loved ones rotating around me. + i dont feel any family ties at all, and i have got my own life to live - i dont think i should be a guardian angel to _any_ particular people, even my family not - i'm here to help anyone at right place and time and cant do it any better than just being myself and doing what i feel like to. i'm kinda not responsible for other people lives, i'm responsible for my own - we all die alone:) so, hell YEAH moving around is just making use of whats yours ../z99 p.s. "sunnyside retirement village" sounds very romantic=) whatta good name for a deephouse band! it was 05.08.2004 when u've been going like this:: ~ > You're a Nazi, I'm a Nazi, everyone's a Nazi! > come on now - one more time and sing it with gusto > You're a Nazi, I'm a Nazi, everyone's a Nazi! > MEK > matrix313 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Jason > Brunton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > .com>cc: 313 > <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: > (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > 08/05/2004 02:22 > PM > come on people! you call those insults!? youre not even trying anymore! > wheres the malicious intent? the personal hygiene inferences? for the love > of allah! SOMEONE call SOMEBODY a "facist" so we can get it over with!! > on 8/5/04 3:04 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Damn- must remember THAT line for the future! >> >> Jason >> >> >> On 5 Aug 2004, at 19:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: >> >>>> Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish >>> in that >>>> small pond. >>>> >>>> grow up >>> >>> well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big >>> turd in the big toilet bowl. >> ~
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I wouldn't take Seth's word - that fella charges 60K an hour - Eat that Jeff :} Cheers Martin - Original Message - From: "kj at technotourist dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "matrix313" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 Mailinglist List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > According to Godwin's law we have to involve nazi or hitler: > > "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison > involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." > > So for the sake of this list: All technotourists are nazis > > > > On 5-aug-04, at 21:22, matrix313 wrote: > > > come on people! you call those insults!? youre not even trying anymore! > > wheres the malicious intent? the personal hygiene inferences? for the > > love > > of allah! SOMEONE call SOMEBODY a "facist" so we can get it over with!! > > > > on 8/5/04 3:04 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Damn- must remember THAT line for the future! > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> > >> On 5 Aug 2004, at 19:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > >> > >>>> Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish > >>> in that > >>>> small pond. > >>>> > >>>> grow up > >>> > >>> well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big > >>> turd in the big toilet bowl. > >> > > > >
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your piosness is touching, and i'm sorry you have family situations that keep you where you are (and obviously quite bitter about it). perhaps had you explained them instead of cursing those who don't have such obligations, I wouldn't have jumped down your throat the way I did. But your obvious anger and jealousy over those who fortunately have the ability to stretch their wings pretty much eliminates any sympathy I may have had. A very good friend of mine recently had to move back home for a few years to take care of his aging parents. And perhaps someday I will have to do the same. And i have no doubt that I would, at a moments notice, drop everything if family needed me. But for now, Being away has in many ways made me closer to my family (that whole phone/internet/airplane thing you were so hype about). Doing the right thing isn't always easy. Doing the right thing and being angry about it and projecting that anger onto those who have not been put into your position pretty much eliminates all the good you do karmically speaking. On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >have you ever travelled overrseas? have you ever travelled to 20 > cities in > >as many days? guessing not- because you're obviously still tied > to your > >mother's apron. > > well youre guessing wrong. not suprisingly. im not super well > travelled but ive been under impressed with germany (though not > berlin), NYC, and numerous other places that people flock to. > > >and guess what oh manchild, adults move away from their families > all the > >time. Do i not love my family because I moved from Detroit to LA? > > we'll see how much you love them when theyre in nursing homes > because no one lives near them to help them. this is a very > american thing to do, move away, let your family rot. good job. i > bet theyll really appreciate that later in life living alone in > someplace called "sunnyside retirement village". > > >Loving > >where you are from, and being tied to it, are two totally > different > >things. > > theres no being tied to anything. i expect more people to have a > sense of responsibility towards those people who raised them. but > im the spoiled one, right? > > >You probably still hang out with the ole' highschool gang as well. > > as a matter of fact i do still have friends that i went to high > school with. and not suprisingly, theyre all good people that ive > had relationships with for over a decade. > > >Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish > in that > >small pond. > > > >grow up > > well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big > turd in the big toilet bowl. > > >grovelin to your local crap nightclub to do a decent techno event > that no > >one comes to isn't DIY, its stupid. > > thanks for clarifying that for me. ill just quit doing everything > and ill move to berlin tomorrow. suck my d*ck. > > >people are flocking to berlin because unlike our over regulated, > over > >licensed country- people can do their own thing- DIY > > its because they dont want to do any hard work for little > gratitude. its all about money or props or whatever people want. > f*ck them all, and f*ck you too. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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At 03:28 PM 8/5/2004, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: According to Godwin's law we have to involve nazi or hitler: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." So for the sake of this list: All technotourists are nazis "Nevertheless, there is also a widely-recognized codicil that any intentional invocation of Godwin's Law for its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. " Dangit. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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According to Godwin's law we have to involve nazi or hitler: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." So for the sake of this list: All technotourists are nazis On 5-aug-04, at 21:22, matrix313 wrote: come on people! you call those insults!? youre not even trying anymore! wheres the malicious intent? the personal hygiene inferences? for the love of allah! SOMEONE call SOMEBODY a "facist" so we can get it over with!! on 8/5/04 3:04 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn- must remember THAT line for the future! Jason On 5 Aug 2004, at 19:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish in that small pond. grow up well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big turd in the big toilet bowl.
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You're a Nazi, I'm a Nazi, everyone's a Nazi!
come on now - one more time and sing it with gusto
You're a Nazi, I'm a Nazi, everyone's a Nazi!
MEK
matrix313
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come on people! you call those insults!? youre not even trying anymore!
wheres the malicious intent? the personal hygiene inferences? for the love
of allah! SOMEONE call SOMEBODY a "facist" so we can get it over with!!
on 8/5/04 3:04 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Damn- must remember THAT line for the future!
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come on people! you call those insults!? youre not even trying anymore! wheres the malicious intent? the personal hygiene inferences? for the love of allah! SOMEONE call SOMEBODY a "facist" so we can get it over with!! on 8/5/04 3:04 PM, Jason Brunton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Damn- must remember THAT line for the future! > > Jason > > > On 5 Aug 2004, at 19:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > >>> Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish >> in that >>> small pond. >>> >>> grow up >> >> well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big >> turd in the big toilet bowl. >
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Damn- must remember THAT line for the future! Jason On 5 Aug 2004, at 19:59, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish in that small pond. grow up well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big turd in the big toilet bowl.
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >have you ever travelled overrseas? have you ever travelled to 20 cities in >as many days? guessing not- because you're obviously still tied to your >mother's apron. well youre guessing wrong. not suprisingly. im not super well travelled but ive been under impressed with germany (though not berlin), NYC, and numerous other places that people flock to. >and guess what oh manchild, adults move away from their families all the >time. Do i not love my family because I moved from Detroit to LA? we'll see how much you love them when theyre in nursing homes because no one lives near them to help them. this is a very american thing to do, move away, let your family rot. good job. i bet theyll really appreciate that later in life living alone in someplace called "sunnyside retirement village". >Loving >where you are from, and being tied to it, are two totally different >things. theres no being tied to anything. i expect more people to have a sense of responsibility towards those people who raised them. but im the spoiled one, right? >You probably still hang out with the ole' highschool gang as well. as a matter of fact i do still have friends that i went to high school with. and not suprisingly, theyre all good people that ive had relationships with for over a decade. >Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish in that >small pond. > >grow up well wherever you are now it must be really easy to be the big turd in the big toilet bowl. >grovelin to your local crap nightclub to do a decent techno event that no >one comes to isn't DIY, its stupid. thanks for clarifying that for me. ill just quit doing everything and ill move to berlin tomorrow. suck my d*ck. >people are flocking to berlin because unlike our over regulated, over >licensed country- people can do their own thing- DIY its because they dont want to do any hard work for little gratitude. its all about money or props or whatever people want. f*ck them all, and f*ck you too. tom andythepooh.com
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berlin is absolutely positivly DIY. ever been to a party there? there's thousands of empty spaces that most any on can (and does) utilize for everything from techno to art to resturants. grovelin to your local crap nightclub to do a decent techno event that no one comes to isn't DIY, its stupid. people are flocking to berlin because unlike our over regulated, over licensed country- people can do their own thing- DIY On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? > > because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the > dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor, > hard wax, etc. doing all the hard work DEFINITELY isnt DIY. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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have you ever travelled overrseas? have you ever travelled to 20 cities in as many days? guessing not- because you're obviously still tied to your mother's apron. nothing wrong in going where the work is. and maybe wanting to spend time in the studio or just enjoying life instead of spending it all in an airport. and guess what oh manchild, adults move away from their families all the time. Do i not love my family because I moved from Detroit to LA? Loving where you are from, and being tied to it, are two totally different things. You probably still hang out with the ole' highschool gang as well. Ah well- in Pittsburgh I guess it's real easy to be the big fish in that small pond. grow up On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > > > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and > that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. > > everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or > whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people > like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and > still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move > away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel > make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people > have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never > leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or > whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the > point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually > requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people > who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is > the easy way out. big suprise there. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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Hey nowPortland is that boring! We got Techno going on...it's no Detroit, but trust me those guys that like to "get to where things are hot" like coming to Portland.. Ask anyone we've brought out, they are appreciated and they LOVE to come back! ~E BTW.. there's a city called Boring Oregon.. it's in the sticks.. and is a bit boring though. Robert Taylor wrote: That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Hey Don't knock Boring, Oregon (yes it's a real city in Oregon) unless you've been there. It's got some great swimming holes. I have to say that Model 500's Time Space Tranmat song, sounds just as good out there, as it does in the inner city :) Too me , Techno is a people thing, not a city thing or a big city thing. It's about many things, among them deprogramming the programming. People in Boring as well as Portland, Berlin, NY, Detroit, etc... need deprogramming just as much or more then those city folks. I think one should do techno(what ever do techno is to you) no matter where one is. I don't stop enjoying Techno any less up in on Mount Hood then I do in a dirty warehouse. Actually many times, I enjoy it more. Cheers... Dave > That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. > So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno > City? > Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? > > > -Original Message- > From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. >> >>I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and > that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. > > everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or > whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people > like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and > still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move > away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel > make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people > have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never > leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or > whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the > point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually > requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people > who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is > the easy way out. big suprise there. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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Regarding moving from the US to another country - You also have to prove to your host country's government that you can support yourself, get a work visa, find and secure some place to live before you move there, overcome any prejudices from employers, pay for moving all your crap to another country, figure out all the governmental systems (taxes, health care, etc.), sell your house if you have one, etc. Moving to other countries is not something you take lightly - you really should be absolutely sure it's going to improve your situation. Moving is rated as one of the largest stresses in someone's life - imagine lumping on top of that moving your *business* to another city/country with different rules and conditions?! Yikes MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net To: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org 08/04/04 12:10 PM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Well spoken. I'd like to add, that moving to a new city may in fact be as hard as staying where you are, as you have to start meeting _everyone_ again. There may even be a language barrier (god forbid). Who cares where you are, where you are from and where you are moving to when you are making great music? ;) :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Dennis DeSantis wrote: > Just to clarify: > > Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly > lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks > into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. > It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new > opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. > > Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are > people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left > behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > >
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Well spoken. I'd like to add, that moving to a new city may in fact be as hard as staying where you are, as you have to start meeting _everyone_ again. There may even be a language barrier (god forbid). Who cares where you are, where you are from and where you are moving to when you are making great music? ;) :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Dennis DeSantis wrote: > Just to clarify: > > Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly > lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks > into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. > It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new > opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. > > Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are > people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left > behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > >
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agree with all that, but isn't where you live a pretty simple equation? somewhere you have friends, can support yourself, and feel good living. why should people remain in detroit if they are miserable there? from all i hear berlin is a great place to live. you can get apartments in former east berlin for under $200/mo, i mean...pretty hard to resist uhh i was just kidding about the 313 party being hyped btw. hehe haha i love all my pikey 313 friends. it would be cool to have a massive 313 party that everyone could come to but beggars cant be choosers or something like that -Original Message- From: David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 4, 2004 12:07 PM To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Hi, I live in Chicago, I just want to say I want to move to Berlin SO BAD. However, Robert, I think Mr. TDC jr has a point. I mean, in some ultimate sense, I feel like I am making Chicago a better place by sticking to my guns and trying to play out and expose people to the music that I love. It just means I have to be willing to do it for free... I basically use my crap office job (where I am right now) to pay for my expensive techno hobby. Sadly, I once made a living playing music, but I had to whore myself out playing jazz piano for Carnival Cruise Lines (bringing you such hits as Copa Cabana, In The Mood, and YMCA). However, I think there may be a deeper problem in the USA, it is not just techno but all artistic experimentation that is unsupported. I know people outside of techno also have it pretty rough here, as artistic things are just not important or supported by the general populace. Actually, anybody who gets to make a living only creating some kind of art is pretty priveleged, as there are loads of people who do have the talent and creativity but can't or don't know how to make things work financially. ~David -- Original Message ------------- Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:44:58 - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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how do you think techno would have ended up if every single person interested in house moved to chicago permanently in the mid 80s instead of staying home and doing their own thing? or what if all the guys in chicago had moved to NYC to be around disco? so many great things have come from remote cultural locations simply BECAUSE people had to come up with some alternative instead of just moving away. i completely understand that point of view. so, i've actually stayed put in cities where it's clear that the music i play/promote wasn't being recieved as well as it could be. other ties to those cities have meant that i can't move. so yeah u don't give up and you and your friends keep plugging away. i's clear when you're in that situation that it isn't ever gonna really take off. if in that situation my main focus was the music (and not other things in my life) i'd have moved away. a lot of US artists are in that position at the moment and some have chosen Berlin for a variety of reasons. both approaches are cool tho, they are both born out of necessity. there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. believe me man, i know all about it. we had titonton play live with a drummer and synths in januaray and basically nobody showed up. that doesnt mean we give up, it means we have to work harder. which is fine by me. sometimes no amount of work is gonna make it happen tho. it'd be like me being into country music and wanting to start something in Manchester (UK)it just ain't gonna happen. ok bad anology mebbe but you might see where i'm coming from. robin...
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this thread is wearing out my delete-key finger :) arguing about where to have the party and how many parties to have?? what the hell kind of a group of spoiled people have we become? :)) 4pm please. -Joe -- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor, hard wax, etc. doing all the hard work DEFINITELY isnt DIY. tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >well it could be said at this point, don't knock it till you've tried >it. > >if my main focus was music i'd happily move to a city where i thought >my shti was best received. and where i could readily go out and see >other stuff i was interested in. > >why limit yourself by geography? how do you think techno would have ended up if every single person interested in house moved to chicago permanently in the mid 80s instead of staying home and doing their own thing? or what if all the guys in chicago had moved to NYC to be around disco? so many great things have come from remote cultural locations simply BECAUSE people had to come up with some alternative instead of just moving away. i know people these days arent fans of limitations (physically, or musically: everyone wants all the plug ins and 10 million tracks of audio or whatever) but limitations are almost always a great source of creative inspiration. >doing your own thing, wherever, takes effort. in the right place that >effort has more chance of reward (and i don't mean money, i mean a good >party where people dance and have fun). this is a good point, but the idea is that you can still do these things from far away. like i said, the internet is quite useful for people trying to collaborate on music, and plane travel makes touring far off lands quite possible for even the brokest people living in cities with little to no techno scene. >there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and >not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are >into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. believe me man, i know all about it. we had titonton play live with a drummer and synths in januaray and basically nobody showed up. that doesnt mean we give up, it means we have to work harder. which is fine by me. tom andythepooh.com
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Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different way from many other people. family is possibly the least replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. I think you're absolutely correct in re: the raised issue. Your family experience is completely noble and admirable. It is, however, not the only path. My relatives encouraged me from a very early age to "leave the nest", and consider my decision to move away as a source of family pride. I've moved to 4 cities on two continents since high school, and will probably continue this pattern forever - again, because this is how I was raised. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
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sorry for replying that last bit to the list. it wasnt a very personal email, i didnt realise it wasnt posted to the list though. apologies if i offended fabrizio tom -- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:09:25 +0200 >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? > >fab >- Original Message - >From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:56 PM >Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. >> >> yep. >> >> >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon >> into Techno City? >> >> i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a >> different way. >> >> tomm >> >> >> andythepooh.com >> >> >> >> >> > > andythepooh.com
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actually my diy comment was meant for the whole list. ;) take care fab - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there > are > >people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better > left > >behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > this isnt meant as a personal attack on anyone > > again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different > way from many other people. family is possibly the least > replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my > grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. > i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and > father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me > to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly > bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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-- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor, hard wax, etc. doing all the hard work DEFINITELY isnt DIY. tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: "Nicole Slavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where you were born >and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same. i didnt say that they had to, did i? im just stating a sentiment that taking the hard way out is usually the right way. >Why do you find >everything that isn't your choice wrong? perhaps i have an arrogant way of putting things. i dont necessarily think theyre "wrong". "weak" is a better word. >Secondly, being a small promoter in a big city is just as hard. Believe me, >tons of my friends are constantly dodging the creditors as they get ripped >off for big bucks on venues and have to compete with the big clubs for >Detroit djs who then become unaffordable. that sucks for them. tom andythepooh.com
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-- Original Message -- From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are >people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left >behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. this isnt meant as a personal attack on anyone again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different way from many other people. family is possibly the least replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. tom andythepooh.com
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Hi, I live in Chicago, I just want to say I want to move to Berlin SO BAD. However, Robert, I think Mr. TDC jr has a point. I mean, in some ultimate sense, I feel like I am making Chicago a better place by sticking to my guns and trying to play out and expose people to the music that I love. It just means I have to be willing to do it for free... I basically use my crap office job (where I am right now) to pay for my expensive techno hobby. Sadly, I once made a living playing music, but I had to whore myself out playing jazz piano for Carnival Cruise Lines (bringing you such hits as Copa Cabana, In The Mood, and YMCA). However, I think there may be a deeper problem in the USA, it is not just techno but all artistic experimentation that is unsupported. I know people outside of techno also have it pretty rough here, as artistic things are just not important or supported by the general populace. Actually, anybody who gets to make a living only creating some kind of art is pretty priveleged, as there are loads of people who do have the talent and creativity but can't or don't know how to make things work financially. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:44:58 - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where you were born and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same. Why do you find everything that isn't your choice wrong? Secondly, being a small promoter in a big city is just as hard. Believe me, tons of my friends are constantly dodging the creditors as they get ripped off for big bucks on venues and have to compete with the big clubs for Detroit djs who then become unaffordable. - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: 04 August 2004 16:56 Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. > > yep. > > >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon > into Techno City? > > i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a > different way. > > tomm > > > andythepooh.com > > > >
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hi tom,\ everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. well it could be said at this point, don't knock it till you've tried it. if my main focus was music i'd happily move to a city where i thought my shti was best received. and where i could readily go out and see other stuff i was interested in. why limit yourself by geography? also, it's not really a question of skipping hard work by moving to a big centre more a case of critical mass in getting things interesting. doing your own thing, wherever, takes effort. in the right place that effort has more chance of reward (and i don't mean money, i mean a good party where people dance and have fun). there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. robin...
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Just to clarify: Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
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-- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. yep. >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a different way. tomm andythepooh.com
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That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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-- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com
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f*cking hell - this whole argument is so stupid
what's up with the whole anti-UK stance that a few people here seem to be
taking? It's stupid, it's childish, and I would expect it only from someone
who also hangs the Confederate flag above a ratty old sofa in their living
room. If you want to bitch about people from other countries then talk to
Bill O'Reilly or some other narrow minded assh*le. This is a email list
that is available worldwide to people of cultures different from yours so
get over your prejudices quick or shut the f*ck up.
Nobody was ever saying that this was THE ONE, THE ONLY party. Stop the
bitching and get your own thing on otherwise you're going to be still
whining while others have actually done some work and are in the process of
partying.
anyway - anniversaries are for sentimental fools ;)
MEK
David Beattie
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Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth
Anniversary Party
08/04/04 05:51 AM
If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for
whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so
much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that
was set up for the first? UK party a few years back?
Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did
that then people who want to know what is going on
can be kept informed and others - well they dont have
to subscribe?
Just a thought
Cheers
BT
--- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this
> on his mind for a while
> and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make
> this inclusive. It was
> *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just
> a party in London for
> those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in
> honour of the tenth
> anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could
> make an argument that the
> party should be up there. Let's face it, there's
> been a hell of a lot of
> British participation in this list for a long time,
> so it follows that those
> of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate
> the list that helps us
> participate in Detroit's music when so many of us
> can't make the trip.
>
> Tristan
> ===
> http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I think you should contact Dj Bone, Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Rob Hood, Mike Grant, Stacey Pullen and whichever other Detroit folk have played/ will be playing here in the last/next couple of months and berate them for not playing Portland. Or maybe you should ask the people of Portland why they aren't playing there? I can't believe that a person who is so dedicated to supporting 313 music and who is committed to the list gets a slating for trying to celebrate these two loves. Although I actually got the impression that it was just more of an excuse to UK bash. I'll be there Brendan with the Brixtown massive. - Original Message - From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 03 August 2004 21:48 Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > yea its for real you putz.whats wrong with this list everyone else can > complain/discuss about the cost to get to detroit but i complain and i am > a joke sorry for trying to voice my positionwhatever i guess i'll > just keep to my self while the big boys do all the talking.sorry to > interupt marc > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > > > > > hah is this actually for real !? > > > > Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next > > DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;) > > > > peace, > > marc > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:28 PM > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > >> DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > >> > >> sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda > >> lamei > >> live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > >> people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > >> that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > >> people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit > >> techno > >> music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money > >> to > >> get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > >> rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > >> club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > >> because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs > >> me > >> around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > >> i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > >> gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my > >> crew have > >> supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people > >> that > >> have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who > >> are > >> soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > >> rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > >> celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with > >> detroit!!! > >> ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > >> > >> > >> p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > >> NW i know you'll want to be there > >> > >> > >> michael > >> www.renegaderhythms.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to > >> > spend on a weekend trip away. > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > >> > > >> > > >> > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > >> > > >> > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is > >> a > >> > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 > > miles > >> > for a party. > >> > > >> > > > > > # > >> > Note: > >> > > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > >> > necessarily represent > >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > >> stated. > >> > This email > >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the > > use > >> > of the > >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > >> > this email in > >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > Thank You. > >> > > > > > # > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I also said I would come so there will be four of us Brendan! >-Original Message- >From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:10 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > >Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt short-circuiting around the world >after that one :) > >Brendan > >> -Original Message- >> From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" >> >> :P >> >> fab >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM >> Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic >aside from >> my >> > original notice about it. >> >> > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
LOL!!! you guys crack me up! (American for "laughing hysterically") This thread makes subscribing to this list for the past 10 years worth every minute of it. I cant wait until the *20th* anniversary party debates! By then, hopefully, we can hold the 20th party on the Moon. Start saving your Euros now you whiners, 10 years from now I dont want to hear about how you couldn't possibly get "AOL Commuter Space Shuttle" money together in time for the party and how it's unfair to those list members stationed on Mars or how you need advance warning to get your work replacement clone unit out of suspended animation. plan ahead people! I'm looking at *you* Miss Cyclone! (and yes, Cyclone *is* a woman. a 313 list shocker revealed!!) sean "getting my arse kicked at the party" deason on 8/4/04 7:26 AM, jurren baars at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cyclone Wehner wrote: >> >> Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite >> parties. >> > are you insane? > > flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. > now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? > ... > > _ > MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite parties. are you insane? flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? ... _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt short-circuiting around the world after that one :) Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" > > :P > > fab > - Original Message - > From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from > my > > original notice about it. > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Sometimes this list baffles me.. Where is the support ? People that can't make it should be supporting the ones that are taking the time to organize these events and play at them.. Ffs - if u wanna have a party, then sort one out. p -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my original notice about it. This whole thread largely consists of complaints about the fact that no-one's set something up in Detroit, and so I think most of the contributors to it wouldn't move to a separate list to continue that discussion. I think that splitting the list up into several groups isn't really the best thing. The next step would be to have a separate list for Movement, for radio shows, for Chicago events, Berlin events, etc etc. If the party here in London was generating loads of traffic in and of itself, then fair enough, but it actually isn't. Brendan > -Original Message- > From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 11:51 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
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not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" :P fab - Original Message - From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my > original notice about it.
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my original notice about it. This whole thread largely consists of complaints about the fact that no-one's set something up in Detroit, and so I think most of the contributors to it wouldn't move to a separate list to continue that discussion. I think that splitting the list up into several groups isn't really the best thing. The next step would be to have a separate list for Movement, for radio shows, for Chicago events, Berlin events, etc etc. If the party here in London was generating loads of traffic in and of itself, then fair enough, but it actually isn't. Brendan > -Original Message- > From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 11:51 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
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I believe that list was in yahoo groups: groups.yahoo.com :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] David Beattie wrote: > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did that then people who want to know what is going on can be kept informed and others - well they dont have to subscribe? Just a thought Cheers BT --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > on his mind for a while > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > this inclusive. It was > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > a party in London for > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > honour of the tenth > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > make an argument that the > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > been a hell of a lot of > British participation in this list for a long time, > so it follows that those > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > the list that helps us > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > can't make the trip. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
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I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts >detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how >many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um >yeah. sell outs, each and every one of them. no one has any allegiance to where theyre from anymore. suckers. pgh 4 life tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Being born in a stable does not make one a horse - Arthur Wellesley - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 0:10 am Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts > >detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how > >many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um > >yeah. > > sell outs, each and every one of them. no one has any allegiance > to where theyre from anymore. suckers. > > pgh 4 life > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
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On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > -- Original Message -- > london is for hipsters. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com git the hell on then, sport. derek.
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- Original Message - From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! Who needs hype when there's alcahol? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! london is for hipsters. tom andythepooh.com
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this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 3, 2004 5:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this on his mind for a while and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make this inclusive. It was *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just a party in London for those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in honour of the tenth anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could make an argument that the party should be up there. Let's face it, there's been a hell of a lot of British participation in this list for a long time, so it follows that those of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate the list that helps us participate in Detroit's music when so many of us can't make the trip. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite parties. > DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > > sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda lamei > live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno > music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to > get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs me > around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew > have > supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people that > have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who are > soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with detroit!!! > ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > > > p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > NW i know you'll want to be there > > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > >> It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to >> spend on a weekend trip away. >> -----Original Message- >> From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) >> >> I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a >> bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles >> for a party. >> >> > # > >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent >> those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. >> This email >> and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use >> of the >> individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received >> this email in >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> > # > >> >>
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
You have your chance to meet a great majority of the 313 list every May in Detroit! On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Renegade808 wrote: > live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno > music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to > get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the
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-- Original Message -- From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts >detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how >many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um >yeah. sell outs, each and every one of them. no one has any allegiance to where theyre from anymore. suckers. pgh 4 life tom andythepooh.com
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i think this just furthers my notion that all stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the sexual tension overwith already and just go for it. it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um yeah. have a great party- if anyone would like to fly me to the UK and replace my attendance at classes here...please let me know ASAP. --- AlanHeneghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well said. > > on 3/8/04 10:17 pm, Phonopsia at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had > this on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, > just a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long > time, so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to > celebrate the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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> Really, I thought this was the bitching about nothing list I was subscribed > to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah what's going on !? ... really pisses me off all this OT discussion of 'electronic music' and these 'parties' .. I dunno the kids of today... :P peace, marc
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- Original Message - From: "kj at technotourist dot org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Does everyone here have an obsession with Detroit? > > Yes we do! That is why i am subscribed to a list called 313, about > Detroit techno! Really, I thought this was the bitching about nothing list I was subscribed to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Woohoo, i love flame-bait! Whosh English Humour...zoom zoom look up quick. ;) Cheers Martin
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The Red Coats are coming! The Red Coats are coming!
MEK
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"Marc Langsman"
hah is this actually for real !?
Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next
DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;)
peace,
marc
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From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>;
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> DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS
>
> sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda
lamei
> live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313
> people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is
> that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the
> people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit
techno
> music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to
> get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the
> rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost
> club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music
> because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs me
> around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so
> i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its
> gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew
> have
> supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people
that
> have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who
are
> soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the
> rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets
> celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with
detroit!!!
> ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me
>
>
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> > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :)
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Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
On 3-aug-04, at 23:24, Martin Dust wrote: Does everyone here have an obsession with Detroit? Yes we do! That is why i am subscribed to a list called 313, about Detroit techno! Woohoo, i love flame-bait! Why don't you just move there, instead of banging on about it all the time. Personally I don't need anyone to drag me by my bollox done the road to Damascus - Sheffield is bad enough, thanks. Cheers Martin
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Does everyone here have an obsession with Detroit? Why don't you just move there, instead of banging on about it all the time. Personally I don't need anyone to drag me by my bollox done the road to Damascus - Sheffield is bad enough, thanks. Cheers Martin
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Well said. on 3/8/04 10:17 pm, Phonopsia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this on his mind for a while > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make this inclusive. It was > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just a party in London for > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in honour of the tenth > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could make an argument that the > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's been a hell of a lot of > British participation in this list for a long time, so it follows that those > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate the list that helps us > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us can't make the trip. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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At 04:48 PM 8/3/2004, Renegade808 wrote: yea its for real you putz.whats wrong with this list everyone else can complain/discuss about the cost to get to detroit but i complain and i am a joke sorry for trying to voice my positionwhatever i guess i'll just keep to my self while the big boys do all the talking.sorry to interupt marc Why complain when you can throw your own event? That's the beauty of capitalism! -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this on his mind for a while and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make this inclusive. It was *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just a party in London for those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in honour of the tenth anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could make an argument that the party should be up there. Let's face it, there's been a hell of a lot of British participation in this list for a long time, so it follows that those of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate the list that helps us participate in Detroit's music when so many of us can't make the trip. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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christ I really dont see whats wrong with the peeps in london arranging a party ... theres nothing stopping folks in the states doing the same eh ? The cost of going to detroit and arranging a party in the uk seem like 2 completely diff issues to me ? ... anyway sorry for wasted for bandwidth peeps peace, marc - Original Message - From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > yea its for real you putz.whats wrong with this list everyone else can > complain/discuss about the cost to get to detroit but i complain and i am > a joke sorry for trying to voice my positionwhatever i guess i'll > just keep to my self while the big boys do all the talking.sorry to > interupt marc > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > > > > > hah is this actually for real !? > > > > Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next > > DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;) > > > > peace, > > marc > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:28 PM > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > >> DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > >> > >> sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda > >> lamei > >> live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > >> people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > >> that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > >> people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit > >> techno > >> music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money > >> to > >> get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > >> rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > >> club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > >> because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs > >> me > >> around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > >> i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > >> gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my > >> crew have > >> supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people > >> that > >> have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who > >> are > >> soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > >> rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > >> celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with > >> detroit!!! > >> ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > >> > >> > >> p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > >> NW i know you'll want to be there > >> > >> > >> michael > >> www.renegaderhythms.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to > >> > spend on a weekend trip away. > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > >> > > >> > > >> > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > >> > > >> > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is > >> a > >> > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 > > miles > >> > for a party. > >> > > >> > > > > > # > >> > Note: > >> > > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > >> > necessarily represent > >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > >> stated. > >> > This email > >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the > > use > >> > of the > >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > >> > this email in > >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > Thank You. > >> > > > > > # > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
> yea its for real you putz. i believe in England, he would be considered a tallywhacker.
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
yea its for real you putz.whats wrong with this list everyone else can complain/discuss about the cost to get to detroit but i complain and i am a joke sorry for trying to voice my positionwhatever i guess i'll just keep to my self while the big boys do all the talking.sorry to interupt marc michael www.renegaderhythms.com > hah is this actually for real !? > > Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next > DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;) > > peace, > marc > > - Original Message - > From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:28 PM > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > >> DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS >> >> sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda >> lamei >> live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 >> people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is >> that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the >> people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit >> techno >> music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money >> to >> get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the >> rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost >> club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music >> because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs >> me >> around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so >> i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its >> gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew >> have >> supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people >> that >> have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who >> are >> soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the >> rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets >> celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with >> detroit!!! >> ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me >> >> >> p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the >> NW i know you'll want to be there >> >> >> michael >> www.renegaderhythms.com >> >> >> >> >> >> > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to >> > spend on a weekend trip away. >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> > >> > >> > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) >> > >> > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is >> a >> > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 > miles >> > for a party. >> > >> > > > # >> > Note: >> > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> > necessarily represent >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >> stated. >> > This email >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the > use >> > of the >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received >> > this email in >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > Thank You. >> > > > # >> > >> > >> > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
hah is this actually for real !? Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;) peace, marc - Original Message - From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > > sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda lamei > live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno > music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to > get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs me > around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew > have > supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people that > have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who are > soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with detroit!!! > ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > > > p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > NW i know you'll want to be there > > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > > > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to > > spend on a weekend trip away. > > -Original Message- > > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > > > > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a > > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles > > for a party. > > > > # > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily represent > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > > This email > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > > of the > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > > this email in > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > # > > > > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda lamei live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs me around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew have supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people that have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who are soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with detroit!!! ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the NW i know you'll want to be there michael www.renegaderhythms.com > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to > spend on a weekend trip away. > -Original Message- > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles > for a party. > > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Just in case my request got lost in the shuffle: For some weird attempt at synchronicity, I would like to have some 313 folks on my radio show that same night. The link below has more details but there's the skinny. The show starts at midnight and goes for 3 hours. We have turntables and lots of space for a live setup, and we also have a web broadcast which is usually up and running. Reply offlist I guess. At 09:48 AM 8/2/2004, Brendan Nelson wrote: The first ever post to 313 - from Morgan Geist, in fact - was on 30th September 1994, and so we're holding a party to celebrate on Saturday 18th September 2004. The party will be held at Public Life, in London's Spitalfields district - a venue that many of you will already be familiar with! -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
And for those who want more about that: http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html On 2-aug-04, at 22:48, Fred Heutte wrote: hyperreal was originally at haas.berkeley.edu (where Brian Behlendorf was a work-study sysadmin), then he moved it over to Stanford, and eventually it became a stand-alone system in a colo center. Brian's still involved in all this, by the way, he played a 4 am set for our Friends & Family campout this weekend in northern California :) fh
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Now there's a offer you can't refuse Detroit - I'd kill for an offer like that in the UK. Nice one Raph - Original Message - From: "House of Suki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > Ok, > So if anyone would like to organize a 10th anniversary 313 party actually > in Detroit I am willing to provide a legit all night space and sound. > Please contact off list. > > Thanks > Raph > > -Souldegmusic.com > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
hyperreal was originally at haas.berkeley.edu (where Brian Behlendorf was a work-study sysadmin), then he moved it over to Stanford, and eventually it became a stand-alone system in a colo center. Brian's still involved in all this, by the way, he played a 4 am set for our Friends & Family campout this weekend in northern California :) fh
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Ok, So if anyone would like to organize a 10th anniversary 313 party actually in Detroit I am willing to provide a legit all night space and sound. Please contact off list. Thanks Raph -Souldegmusic.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 04:08:45PM +0100, Brendan Nelson wrote: > Yes, but ISTR that when 313 actually started out, it was > coming from uta.edu before being adopted by Hyperreal... > my memory is a bit foggy though! Right, that was where George Smiley started it. My memory's coming back now slowly :) Hans > > -Original Message- > > From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 02 August 2004 15:58 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:47:53AM -0500, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >The list is about Detroit techno, was originally served > > > >from a university network in Texas > > > > > > Then TEXAS it is!! > > > > > > let's go and have a party in the university's computer lab > > - who's with me? > > > > Wasn't Hyperreal actually techno.stanford.edu? > > > > Hans > > > > -- > > Hans Veneman > > http://technotourist.org > > http://vlokfeest.net > > -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
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you gotta watch out for that guy, he's the watchdog for grammar & spellin' :P lisa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 2, 2004 11:07 am Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > ah, yeah sure whatever > > I'll just slide under the table now and crawl to the door > > MEK > > > > > "Robert Taylor" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > 4.co.uk> cc: > > Subject: RE: (313) > 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > 08/02/04 11:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > Erupt, you mean? ;) > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:57 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > sorry my spelling is horrendous today - that should be "irrupt" > > > > Michael.Elliot-Knight > > @fallon.com To: "Robert > Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > 313@hyperreal.org, "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 08/02/04 09:53 AMSubject: RE: > (313) 313 > Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > > > LOL - only the 313list would arrupt into an argument about > how/where to > celebrate itself > > I hope I never lose another day of getting these threads in my email > > MEK > > > > > > "Robert Taylor" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Klaas-Jan > Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > 4.co.uk> cc: > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 > Tenth Anniversary Party > 08/02/04 10:57 AM > > > > > > > > > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 > to spend > on a weekend trip away. > -Original Message- > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It > is a bit > selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 > miles for > a party. > > # > > > > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarilyrepresent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > stated..This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # > > > > > > > > > > > > # > > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarilyrepresent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > stated.This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > received this > email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # > > > > > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
ah, yeah sure whatever
I'll just slide under the table now and crawl to the door
MEK
"Robert Taylor"
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Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth
Anniversary Party
08/02/04 11:07 AM
Erupt, you mean? ;)
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:57 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
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sorry my spelling is horrendous today - that should be "irrupt"
Michael.Elliot-Knight
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cc:
313@hyperreal.org, "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Tenth Anniversary Party
LOL - only the 313list would arrupt into an argument about how/where to
celebrate itself
I hope I never lose another day of getting these threads in my email
MEK
"Robert Taylor"
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Subject: RE: (313) 313
Tenth Anniversary Party
08/02/04 10:57 AM
It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to spend
on a weekend trip away.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :)
I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a bit
selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles for
a party.
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Yes, but ISTR that when 313 actually started out, it was coming from uta.edu before being adopted by Hyperreal... my memory is a bit foggy though! Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 August 2004 15:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Brendan Nelson; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:47:53AM -0500, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The list is about Detroit techno, was originally served > > >from a university network in Texas > > > > Then TEXAS it is!! > > > > let's go and have a party in the university's computer lab > - who's with me? > > Wasn't Hyperreal actually techno.stanford.edu? > > Hans > > -- > Hans Veneman > http://technotourist.org > http://vlokfeest.net >
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Dan Sicko, Matt MacQueen and George Smiley? :) > -Original Message- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 August 2004 15:58 > To: Brendan Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > I'm only coming if the Big Three turn up :)
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
> -Original Message- > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 August 2004 15:53 > > It is a bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't > want to travelo 4000 miles for a party... I'd definitely agree with this sentiment if it didn't cost close a thousand pounds when you factor in flights, hotels, etc! Not all of us are that wealthy, unfortunately :) It is indeed weird that a lot of the Detroit artists discussed on the list get far more bookings in Europe than in the US, and that people who live in the Detroit area are often hearing about artists from their local scene playing in cities like London, Berlin, Amsterdam, etc etc. But that's a separate subject, IMHO. Sounds like the Octave One night will be a good place to hold the Dutch celebration! :) Brendan
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Erupt, you mean? ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party sorry my spelling is horrendous today - that should be "irrupt" Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org, "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/02/04 09:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party LOL - only the 313list would arrupt into an argument about how/where to celebrate itself I hope I never lose another day of getting these threads in my email MEK "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> 4.co.uk> cc: Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party 08/02/04 10:57 AM It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to spend on a weekend trip away. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles for a party. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
sorry my spelling is horrendous today - that should be "irrupt" Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org, "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/02/04 09:53 AM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party LOL - only the 313list would arrupt into an argument about how/where to celebrate itself I hope I never lose another day of getting these threads in my email MEK "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> 4.co.uk> cc: Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party 08/02/04 10:57 AM It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to spend on a weekend trip away. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles for a party. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
LOL - only the 313list would arrupt into an argument about how/where to
celebrate itself
I hope I never lose another day of getting these threads in my email
MEK
"Robert Taylor"
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Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth
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08/02/04 10:57 AM
It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to spend
on a weekend trip away.
-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :)
I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a bit
selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles for
a party.
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Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
All i can say is: i hope i can make it!! - Original Message - From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > Back in September 1994, when there wasn't much to the internet apart from Usenet and email, the mailing lists run from hyperreal.org were pretty much the only way to gather information about the world of electronic music. And when 313 was launched in that month, it became the only internet resource dedicated to discussing Detroit techno, the music it was influenced by, and the music it went on to influence. > > Ten years on, and everything has changed. There are now a tonne of forums, mailing lists, newsgroups, blogs and websites covering "our" music; but, although it's had its detractors over the years, the 313 list has managed to survive, bringing together hundreds of like-minded individuals across the world. > > The first ever post to 313 - from Morgan Geist, in fact - was on 30th September 1994, and so we're holding a party to celebrate on Saturday 18th September 2004. The party will be held at Public Life, in London's Spitalfields district - a venue that many of you will already be familiar with! > > DJs on the night have yet to be confirmed, so if you're up for doing a set send me an email. And if you have any ideas which might help us make the night a bit special, then let me know. > > In Morgan's first post, he said "hope 313 thrives" - I think we can safely say that it has! > > Brendan >
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Howdy! Texas euh! So once again it is up to folks at downlow to save the world from bad music huh (No pun intended to a slogan of your favorite music festival) On Monday, August 02, 2004, at 04:56PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The list is about Detroit techno, was originally served >>from a university network in Texas > >Then TEXAS it is!! > >let's go and have a party in the university's computer lab - who's with me?
