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2 x C2 remixes on remake Basic channel remake of remake Sueno Latino Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor without being straight covers or remixes. I'm sure there are many more... Nice breakdown. Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on The Art of Travel 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample prominently and cool re-work of it. Neil Oliverra from DEC also calls E2-E4 something like the soundtrack to Detroit in his _Reality Slap_ novella thing. I think it's probably one of the most succesful motifs (memes) in techno history (if you exclude breaks) I agree! I tried to get it as an Illinois licence plate, actually... :) peace, Matt MacQueen
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I guess you fell from sleep one night listening Charles ;-) He did team up with Jim and Dannie owners of Wax Trax in Chicago, also with Greg who worked there. Mike Smythe from UK (co-owner of Wax Trax) was friend of Jac Holzman the founder of Elektra. Is the reason why Wax Trax stocked Computer World right after the release in 1981. Wax Trax stocked also a lot of Spalax (defunct tempel records) founded by Gabriel Ibos. Manuel Göttsching (E2-E4) signed on Spalax. Gabriel Ibos teamed up with Daniel and Patrick from Front 242. Daniel and Patrick teamed up with Jim (Wax Trax). As a result of all these links Wax Trax, the supreme factory records in Chicago at that time, stocked extensively independents European labels, particularly in the so called industrial, electronic music genre. Hailing from Little Rock, Arkansas,from WAAM, to WJLB, to WGPR, to WCHB among others, The Electrifying Mojo, a.k.a. Charles Johnson, who played Computer World in 1981 on his Midnight Funk Association show, didn't play E2-E4 in 1984 or after? I have difficulty in believing it. To be checked... From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Matthew MacQueen wrote: Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on The Art of Travel 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample prominently and cool re-work of it. Does anyone know the name of the song Matt's talking about here? Cheers! G
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Right ... I'm just saying I don't think it influenced more than a couple of people. Then again, maybe Disco Circus was one person's jam, YMO's Firecracker another, etc. -d On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 03:25 PM, techno wrote: I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading an Carl Craig interview where he talks about the song being an inspiration going back to 1988, E2E4 was one of those remixes he had on acetate and he wanted to release it so he got Manuel Gottsching permission, it was put out on the Paper Clip People Throw 12.
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On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 04:50 PM, Adam wrote: I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the music institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned May getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and getting it from Lil Louis. http://www.deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm Lil Louis live at the bismark, 1989, mixes it into a house set, sounds terrific. Well, there you have it ... I stand corrected in my correction. Or something like that. I love the track too, but IMHO it's at its most interesting when the guitar comes in halfway through. -d
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On 12/3/02 7:39 PM, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew MacQueen wrote: Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on The Art of Travel 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample prominently and cool re-work of it. Does anyone know the name of the song Matt's talking about here? On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4, although The Silver State might have some snatched chords. Anyone got a better ear, or was the track in question dropped for the CD release? Thanks, BTW Matt for reminding me what an awesome track Chai is off that 1998 release! -- im
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- Original Message - From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Music Institute 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:00 AM Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4's offspring On 12/3/02 7:39 PM, Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew MacQueen wrote: Another I can think of is a track by Mannequin Lung on The Art of Travel 2LP (on Plug Research), forgot the name. Features the sample prominently and cool re-work of it. Does anyone know the name of the song Matt's talking about here? On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4, although The Silver State might have some snatched chords. Anyone got a better ear, or was the track in question dropped for the CD release? I thought it might be 'Silver State' as well, but to my ears it wasn't decisive. Nineveh is the jam though! Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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I love the track too, but IMHO it's at its most interesting when the guitar comes in halfway through. Really? It's just the opposite for me - I hardly ever listen to side two; it all just gets a bit too prog-rock and noodly for my liking, but side one is genius... Sean.
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I love the electronics-only side too, I just think he could have used a little editing. It just seems to come alive when the guitar parts bounce off the beat. Or maybe I'm getting soured on repetition in my old age. -d On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 09:00 AM, Sean Creen wrote: I love the track too, but IMHO it's at its most interesting when the guitar comes in halfway through. Really? It's just the opposite for me - I hardly ever listen to side two; it all just gets a bit too prog-rock and noodly for my liking, but side one is genius... Sean.
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On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4, although The Silver State might have some snatched chords. Well that's the one I was thinking of... I guess I can't say for sure but it sounded like a satched snippet with heavy effects. Thanks, BTW Matt for reminding me what an awesome track Chai is off that 1998 release! Isn't that a good album.. City Lights is the one I always play. I wish the LP was mastered louder though, it's such a great cut. Was there a 12 release of any of these? (wider grooves...) peace, Matt
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I just remembered a track I used to like around ten years ago - god knows who it was by, but it got played a lot on pirate radio around London in 1991/92. It featured the chords from E2-E4 (although with a subtle gate effect on them), the vocal and bassline from Final Cut's Take Me Away, and a particular classic breakbeat whose name I forget! I didn't know of either E2-E4 or Take Me Away at that point, so when I did eventually discover those two records I had a smile on my face. But to this day I'd love to find that old hardcore track with the samples; and I always find myself imagining the chords from E2-E4 whenever I hear the acapella of Take Me Away... | -Original Message- | From: Matthew MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 04 December 2002 16:24 | To: The Music Institute | Cc: Ian | Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4's offspring | | | On review of the CD, I missed any obvious use of E2-E4, | although The Silver State might have some snatched chords. | | Well that's the one I was thinking of... I guess I can't say | for sure but it sounded like a satched snippet with heavy effects. | | Thanks, BTW Matt for reminding me what an awesome track Chai | is off that 1998 release! | | Isn't that a good album.. City Lights is the one I always play. | I wish the LP was mastered louder though, it's such a great cut. Was | there a 12 release of any of these? (wider grooves...) | | peace, | Matt |
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Hi, sorry if this has been covered already. yesterday a friend had me listen to this (fantastic) record and stated that it was fundamental in defining and inspiring detroit techno. How true is this? thanks fab.
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- Original Message - From: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching Hi, sorry if this has been covered already. yesterday a friend had me listen to this (fantastic) record and stated that it was fundamental in defining and inspiring detroit techno. How true is this? Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on the track... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=B699yxdsbjolf~C
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- Original Message - From: John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something different, but don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late '80s with what was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on the track... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=B699yxdsbjolf~C I think we're both right, in a way. I've just discovered that Bushwacka is the culprit, and it's a remix of Sueno Latino, not e2-e4. The short bit I heard was a bit w/o the vocal, so I just figured it was e2-e4: http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Recorde dMediaID=40928 You can call it Progressive House or flacid tech house - I dunno. There's also an awful trance verion too. Shame Bushwacka did this. His track with 'Lifeblood' Layo on that THE END's Subterranean v. 2 comp that also has a Pullen track is actually kinda nice: http://www.groovetech.com/PhoenixData/SilverStream/Pages/srvltRecMed?Recorde dMediaID=22180 Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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The story with Sueno Latino was that they wanted to release it as a straight-up remix of E2-E4, and had Goettsching's full consent. However, his label didn't like the idea and prevented them from using the name E2-E4, which is what led to the track being titled Sueno Latino. Derrick May turned out a very nice remix of it. The reason this remix had to be made is because the time signature on the original is actually a bit strange, making it very very tricky to actually beatmix with other 4/4 records! And while E2-E4 isn't often cited as a particularly influential work for early Detroit techno, I don't think you can deny that it was extremely seminal for people like Maurizio and people like that - in fact Goettsching ended up collaborating with Maurizio on Schizophrenia, did he not? Brendan | -Original Message- | From: John Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 03 December 2002 13:24 | To: Tristan Watkins; Fabrizio Nahum; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching | | | I almost gagged the other day when | I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. | | Hmmm, progressive house or trance? Maybe this is something | different, but | don't forget Sueno Latino, who had a European hit in the late | '80s with what | was basically a cover of E2-E4; Gottsching even played guitar on the | track... | | http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=B699yxdsbjolf~C | |
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I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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Flaccid house! brilliant. On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 09:01 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: You can call it Progressive House or flacid tech house
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I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. John -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM To: Tristan Watkins Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex patterson drop E2-E4. also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the track is like 45 minutes long, with mostly only subtle modulations to keep it moving. almost like a precursor to consumed-era plastikman. sound-wise, to me it feels strongly related to the warmth and tonality of a lot of kompakt releases. I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. John -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM To: Tristan Watkins Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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when the British were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. yeah, speaking of coming-down brits I was actually talking about coming down to Ibiza, but it works pretty well both ways... -Original Message- From: dave cronin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:23 AM To: John Bush; Dan Sicko; Tristan Watkins Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching yeah, speaking of coming-down brits, I'm pretty sure I've heard alex patterson drop E2-E4. also, I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the track is like 45 minutes long, with mostly only subtle modulations to keep it moving. almost like a precursor to consumed-era plastikman. sound-wise, to me it feels strongly related to the warmth and tonality of a lot of kompakt releases. I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... I think it was more of an influence on the Balearic style...I remember hearing that E2-E4 was one of the tracks Alfredo would play when the British were starting to come down in the mid-'80s. John -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:36 AM To: Tristan Watkins Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com
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for the vinyl-impaired there's also a cd -k Original Message: - From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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you can pick up the cd from dancetracks in nyc or on their website, that's where i got it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching for the vinyl-impaired there's also a cd -k Original Message: - From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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used bin..recordtime..always wondered who it belonged to first -k Original Message: - From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 13:02:18 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching you can pick up the cd from dancetracks in nyc or on their website, that's where i got it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching for the vinyl-impaired there's also a cd -k Original Message: - From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading an Carl Craig interview where he talks about the song being an inspiration going back to 1988, E2E4 was one of those remixes he had on acetate and he wanted to release it so he got Manuel Gottsching permission, it was put out on the Paper Clip People Throw 12.
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I remember a Craig interview where he cites May playing it at the music institute and being totally blown away. I think he mentioned May getting it from either Mojo or on of his trips to Chicago, and getting it from Lil Louis. http://www.deephousepage.com/mixes12.htm Lil Louis live at the bismark, 1989, mixes it into a house set, sounds terrific. techno wrote: I'm not a techno music historian but I do remember reading an Carl Craig interview where he talks about the song being an inspiration going back to 1988, E2E4 was one of those remixes he had on acetate and he wanted to release it so he got Manuel Gottsching permission, it was put out on the Paper Clip People Throw 12.
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2 x C2 remixes on remake Basic channel remake of remake Sueno Latino Derrick May's mix of Sueno Latino + many other mixes plus there's are tracks by the Detroit Escalator company and by ismistik that essentially revamp e2-e4 in their own flavor without being straight covers or remixes. I'm sure there are many more... I think it's probably one of the most succesful motifs (memes) in techno history (if you exclude breaks) --
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I guess you fell from sleep one night listening Charles ;-) He did team up with Jim and Dannie owners of Wax Trax in Chicago, also with Greg who worked there. Mike Smythe from UK (co-owner of Wax Trax) was friend of Jac Holzman the founder of Elektra. Is the reason why Wax Trax stocked Computer World right after the release in 1981. Wax Trax stocked also a lot of Spalax (defunct tempel records) founded by Gabriel Ibos. Manuel Göttsching (E2-E4) signed on Spalax. Gabriel Ibos teamed up with Daniel and Patrick from Front 242. Daniel and Patrick teamed up with Jim (Wax Trax). As a result of all these links Wax Trax, the supreme factory records in Chicago at that time, stocked extensively independents European labels, particularly in the so called industrial, electronic music genre. Hailing from Little Rock, Arkansas,from WAAM, to WJLB, to WGPR, to WCHB among others, The Electrifying Mojo, a.k.a. Charles Johnson, who played Computer World in 1981 on his Midnight Funk Association show, didn't play E2-E4 in 1984 or after? I have difficulty in believing it. To be checked... From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) E2-E4 Manuel Goettsching Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:19 -0500 I'm not sure how many people were actually hip to this record in Detroit outside of Carl and maybe Derrick ... it wasn't something that everyone heard on the radio -- or did I fall asleep listening to Mojo one night? -d Most would probably not argue that it is one of the most influential songs. For the most direct relationship, check out Paperclip People's 'Remake', which is basically a 10-minute remix of this song. I almost gagged the other day when I heard a progressive mix of this on TV. It was up there with 'Strings' level bastardizations. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Mix in mp3, 'Live in Iowa City' available for a short time from http://phonopsia.isoprax.com _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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seems that festival won't take place this year. On electroshock site it is said that the festival has not been canceled but postponed for year 2002 when St. Petersburg will celebrate it's 300 years anniversary. Pity.. - Original Message - From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:34 Subject: [313] E2-E4 can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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seems that festival won't take place this year. On electroshock site it is said that the festival has not been canceled but postponed for year 2003 when St. Petersburg will celebrate it's 300 years anniversary. Pity.. - Original Message - From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:34 Subject: [313] E2-E4 can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, postponed for year 2003 ! can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Can anyone tell me from what album the Göttsching track Time comes from? My dad has this track on a very vague German compilation with Jarre-like electronica TIA W -Original Message- From: Jason Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] at inet-1 Sent: maandag 10 juni 2002 11:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1 Subject: [313] E2-E4 can't remember who asked but E2-E4 first came out on Inteam records, 1984. and for anyone in the area: Manuel Göttsching will play at the Electroshock festival in St. Petersburg (Russia) in the Oktjaberskaja Hall on 22 July 2002, 8 p.m. jd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's on an early Ash Ra Temple record. I think it was Seven Up but i am not to sure about this... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wibo asked: Can anyone tell me from what album the Göttsching track Time comes from? My dad has this track on a very vague German compilation with Jarre-like electronica -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is this the original release?) , but I hear that it has not much bass and is very treble, is this the track or is it the pressing? (I know that older records have not that much bass, off course... but there is almost no bass at all..) Thank you, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's a very ethereal song mostly highs, but you can always mix another track underneath it for a bassline ! - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 -- From: Maarten Baute Reply To: Maarten Baute Sent: Friday, June 7, 2002 10:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 Hi, I just got myself a copy of manuel göttching´s E2-E4 on racket records (is this the original release?) , but I hear that it has not much bass and is very treble, is this the track or is it the pressing? (I know that older records have not that much bass, off course... but there is almost no bass at all..) Thank you, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
hiya lets not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. 'UR Live in Utrecht, Holland' is the name of the track, it's basically the start of the punisher live. bought this album off of a mate for $15AUD a while back, very good purchase me thinks. out. nath np - punisher
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Truly surreal.I'll have to check out Dream Desire as I've not heard of that release before. Is it under Ashram Temple or Manuel's name? From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:53:34 -0400 Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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so you might be a fan then, eh? ;) From: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Newsgroup 313@hyperreal.org, Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:43:35 +0100 As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still readily available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare. UR 46 was only released as part of a double pack on NSC records and is not so easily available. Also the first ever (as far as I know) release by UR was an album called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' which featured vocals by Rob Hood, Yolanda Reynolds and a host of others. I'm pretty sure it came out before UR01 as, apart from the copy I have I've never known anyone who has ever heard of it before. Though there is a track on it called 'You've got to show me' that I think was released on Shockwave. Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ issue only, SID releases and some other stuff on Shockwave (Acid Rain1). Plus There's the Hipnotech label, which is a UR offshoot that puts out mainly downtempo beaty stuff and lets not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ issue only, Peace Stewart so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there other factors? I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the same name, right?) I would give body organs to have 'soul power' on vinyl p.s. live house and techno mix tonight 4/25/01 7pm pacific http://24.177.103.16:8000/listen.pls
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:::so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever :::unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there :::other factors? :::I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm :::thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the same name, :::right?) I would give body organs to have 'soul power' on vinyl interstellar fugitives seems to have some z tracks on it including afrogermanic and i think soul power is on there but can't remember track listing at the moment though i'm sure others would remember and as for availabilty of older ur tracks punisher is widely available anywhere, it's on www.juno.co.uk and regularly appears in adelaide record shops andrew
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Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Flower mate. SoulFlower is no way available to the public. - Original Message - From: Andrew Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties :::so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever :::unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there :::other factors? :::I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm :::thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the same name, :::right?) I would give body organs to have 'soul power' on vinyl interstellar fugitives seems to have some z tracks on it including afrogermanic and i think soul power is on there but can't remember track listing at the moment though i'm sure others would remember and as for availabilty of older ur tracks punisher is widely available anywhere, it's on www.juno.co.uk and regularly appears in adelaide record shops andrew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Err, I think you confusing Soul Flower with Soul Power mate. ;) It appeared on Rolando's Aztec Mystic mix. Yep, I'd definitely give an organ for that track. Such a mad-ass track. I love it. out, dave. Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Flower mate. SoulFlower is no way available to the public. - Original Message - From: Andrew Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:15 AM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties :::so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever :::unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there :::other factors? :::I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm :::thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the same name, :::right?) I would give body organs to have 'soul power' on vinyl interstellar fugitives seems to have some z tracks on it including afrogermanic and i think soul power is on there but can't remember track listing at the moment though i'm sure others would remember and as for availabilty of older ur tracks punisher is widely available anywhere, it's on www.juno.co.uk and regularly appears in adelaide record shops andrew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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:::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate. close though :) as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks too trying to cover myself :) andrew
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Hey Soul Flower is good too! It's by the Pharcyde though, and LA hip hop is certainly OT. Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://www.recordcollectorinc.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties :::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate. close though :) as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks too trying to cover myself :) andrew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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C'mon, now we are just snowballing. Here goes: SoulSaver is a track on Interstellar that is by Gerald Mitchell. SoulFlower is a Z-track that features on Rolando's Aztec Mystic mix. I think this was the track that we were originally talking about. SoulFlower is also the name of a different but very good track by the Pharcyde. What does this tell us? I don't know. Scott Mc - Original Message - From: Vince Woolums [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Hey Soul Flower is good too! It's by the Pharcyde though, and LA hip hop is certainly OT. Vince Woolums AOL IM: vincewoolums http://www.recordcollectorinc.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties :::Think you are confusing Soul Saver with Soul Power mate. close though :) as i said i didn't have a track listing, and soul saver rocks too trying to cover myself :) andrew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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, now we are just snowballing. Here goes: SoulSaver is a track on Interstellar that is by Gerald Mitchell. [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of Gerald Mitchell, i see hes got a track on 430 west. is it similar to the track on Interstellar? is it good? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? This week www.hardwax.com has got the following UR releases back in stock Yolanda Your Time Is Up UR 001 Underground Resistance Sonic EP UR 002 Underground Resistance Waveform EP UR 004 Blake Baxter The Prince Of Techno UR 006 Yolanda Living For The Nite UR 007 Underground Resistance Elimination UR 009 Suburban Knight Nocturbulous Behavior UR 011 X-101 Sonic Destroyer UR 013.5 The Aztec Mystic Aztlan UR 015 / 430 West291 Yolanda Living For The Nite - Rmxs UR 016 M.I.A. Schoolcraft Bump UR 018 Underground Resistance World 2 World UR 020 Acid Rain II The Storm Continues UR 024 Scan 7 Black Moon Rising UR 027 Acid Rain 3 Meteor Shower UR 028 Dark Energy UR 029 Drexciya Aquatic Invasion UR 030 Scan 7 Undetectible EP UR 031 The Aztec Mystic Aztec Mystic UR 035 Underground Resistance By Night EP UR 036 Underground Resistance The Infiltrator EP UR 039 The Hostile Ambush UR 040 Undergroud Resistance The Turning Point UR 042 UR Condition Red UR 043 V/A Interstellar Fugitives UR 045 Vintage Future Antimatter Premium ... UR 047 Underground Resistance The Swarm UR 048 Suburban Knight feat. ... Hidden In Plainsight EP UR 050X2 talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com
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i've got one of them on essence, didn't know it was so rare though. only cost me a tenner from ex-orbit resident nigel walker, and you're right it's dark. there are 2 tracks from mills on the one side and 2 minimal not so hot trax by an unknown producer on the other. lovely. innercity - Original Message - From: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org; Tyler Hanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Any idea on the availability of an edit that I heard Dave Clarke play eons ago. It was a different version of Suburban's 'Nocturbulous Behaviour' straight out of the D. I hate the exclusiveness of tracks that would mean so much to the right people and not just high profile DJ's. While on point, does anyone know of a track by Mills on 'Essence Records'? It only had 50 made and was supposedly called Magma, but it wasn't the one of the same name on Thera. Basically it is a simple string arrangement with the addition of percussion making it one of the most sinister funky grooves I have ever heard. I have only ever heard Claude Young and Surgeon play it. Can anyone elaborate on this as I am flying blind on my rocketcycle with this? cheers futurespeak, Scott Mc (nOctURne) - Original Message - From: Tyler Hanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ issue only, Peace Stewart so what is the real deal on the Z tracks. Are they destined to be forever unavaliable? Is this out of exclusitivity only or are there other factors? I think one or two has uncleared/unclearable samples in it, right? (I'm thinking 'soul power' has samples from the JB's tune of the same name, right?) I would give body organs to have 'soul power' on vinyl p.s. live house and techno mix tonight 4/25/01 7pm pacific http://24.177.103.16:8000/listen.pls - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stewart Caig: As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still readily available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare. couple more for the list: the original UR-021 was the Piranha ep, but this has since been replaced by Crime Report which was a companion ep to the Interstellar Fugitives lp. UR-011 was slated to be the Panic ep, but for whatever reason this release was pulled and replaced by Suburban Knight's Nocturbulous Behaviour. a coupla years ago the pressing plant UR use mispressed a bunch of UR-011's, using the plates for the Panic ep by mistake. i've no idea how many copies were produced, but for a short while 5 or so years ago Submerge were selling the mispresses as UR-011-011. rob ps: Tom, yeah i know... choo choo! ;) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Sean Deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's Punisher sound great over a large sound system right about now? wish I had bought it back in the day. I have the followup track with the purple label The Fury?. maybe I'll dig this out and add it to my box again. sean
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on 26/4/01 2:38 am, scott mcgill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea on the availability of an edit that I heard Dave Clarke play eons ago. It was a different version of Suburban's 'Nocturbulous Behaviour' straight out of the D. hey, i think i remember that..it was kinds more distorted and harsher sounding than the orginal. i think dave played it on his pilot for his show that radio one were gonna give him. why did that fall throughb*ds...?
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From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Did 'The Fury' had Piranha on the b-side? Rolando once spum The Punisher in Eindhoven, yeah that's hardcore-techno... I think 'The Fury' was the original UR-018 - this was replaced by by MIA's 'Schoolcraft Bump' 12 a few years back. || [CiM] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || http://www.warmdata.net/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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I've been after the fury and piranna for years now think they have been deleted also heard its cos the pressing plates got broken anyone got info on this? - Original Message - From: Sean Deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Charles Prince' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: RE: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's Punisher sound great over a large sound system right about now? wish I had bought it back in the day. I have the followup track with the purple label The Fury?. maybe I'll dig this out and add it to my box again. sean -Original Message- From: Charles Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i believe the other side is by claus bachor, but i'm not sure about that. peter - Original Message - From: paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: scott mcgill [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; Tyler Hanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [313] Z-tracks was:Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties : i've got one of them on essence, didn't know : it was so rare though. only cost me a tenner : from ex-orbit resident nigel walker, and you're : right it's dark. : there are 2 tracks from mills on the one side : and 2 minimal not so hot trax by an unknown : producer on the other. : : lovely. : innercity
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I was thinking about this just the other day. wouldnt UR's Punisher sound great over a large sound system right about now? wish I had bought it back in the day. I have the followup track with the purple label The Fury?. maybe I'll dig this out and add it to my box again. sean -Original Message- From: Charles Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:54 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still readily available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare. UR 46 was only released as part of a double pack on NSC records and is not so easily available. Also the first ever (as far as I know) release by UR was an album called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' which featured vocals by Rob Hood, Yolanda Reynolds and a host of others. I'm pretty sure it came out before UR01 as, apart from the copy I have I've never known anyone who has ever heard of it before. Though there is a track on it called 'You've got to show me' that I think was released on Shockwave. Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ issue only, SID releases and some other stuff on Shockwave (Acid Rain1). Plus There's the Hipnotech label, which is a UR offshoot that puts out mainly downtempo beaty stuff and lets not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties
Now, THERE's a list of records I would like to get my hands on. (noise of piggy bank squealing...) John As far as I know the whole of the UR records back catalogue is still readily available, but there are a couple of releases that are rare. UR 46 was only released as part of a double pack on NSC records and is not so easily available. Also the first ever (as far as I know) release by UR was an album called 'Hype Stuff (You gotta Move to)' which featured vocals by Rob Hood, Yolanda Reynolds and a host of others. I'm pretty sure it came out before UR01 as, apart from the copy I have I've never known anyone who has ever heard of it before. Though there is a track on it called 'You've got to show me' that I think was released on Shockwave. Of course you also have the UR Z tracks which are supposedly Assault DJ issue only, SID releases and some other stuff on Shockwave (Acid Rain1). Plus There's the Hipnotech label, which is a UR offshoot that puts out mainly downtempo beaty stuff and lets not forget the album on Network records that had a short track of them live. Peace Stewart - Original Message - From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: [313] E2-E4 / UR rareties Apparently E2-E4 was recorded in one take (i.e. one hour), with no overdubs or editing (apart from those needed for side A B of the record). Almost inconceivable, isn't it? I also recommend Gottsching's 'Dream Desire', a bizarre, almost kitschily-beautiful album bedecked with incredible synth work. True phonographer MG talks about E2-E4 his career at: www.eurock.com/features/ashra/ Just wondering: have all the early UR releases been re-released on vinyl by now? Which ones are left how rare are they? Which ones are virtually impossible to track down? Thanks, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: [313] E2-E4 (was most important??)
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Hansi Güçlüer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 23 april 2001 11:51 Aan: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: [313] E2-E4 (was most important??) It's the one they sampled for Sueño Latino (and Carl Craigs Remake, there's a Maurizio/Basic Channel-version too). Didn't one of the Quadrant tracks sampled it also? Manuel Göttsching was a krautrock-guitarist (don't remember which group at the moment, one of the more He used to play in Ash Ra Temple, they recorded some really nice albums also. well known...) The record, a concept album about chess, is really one long repetitive, synth+drummachine-led track. It was played by Larry Levan att the Paradise Garage and surely loads of Detroit-people but to me it still sounds like the future somehow. It's been reissued on a label called something like DA. On vinyl too (I've heard) but I've only found the cd.
Re: [313] E2-E4
And wasn't there a rumour that Hawtin and Aquaviva bought four copies each when they found the reissue in England (must have been in Jockey Slut-magazine)? Mas importante, then! :) /H Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
