Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-18 Thread Martin
Send me a brief Fred and I'll do you something...

What are PTV royalties mate :)

Martin

16/6/03 9:12 PM FRED [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.
 
 Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain
 PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for
 that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way.
 
 In other words $0.00
 
 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist
 
 
 Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations:
 
 absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @
 tronictreatment.com   w/Stewart Walker
 --
 TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA  02180-0010  U.S.A.
 CL #  617.905.9619
 
 http://telepathica.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
 me.
 
 More, please.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 label design and music are equally important.
 
 this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
 
 tom 
 
 
 andythepooh.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-17 Thread Benn Glazier
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT), spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 label design and music are equally important.
 Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even 
 though it doesn't look right.
 

I'm interested in your rationale behind these statements, as yet you are
to release them to us - you keep iterating the same point. Perhaps we're
not worthy?

If it's a pop record, then yes, Britney's t*ts must look bigger on the
cover so that more people will buy it. This ain't pop music dude. 

As someone who has done label art on this list (and gee... there aren't
many otheres on this list who have done it ;P), yes.. label art is
important, but at no point is it so important that it's importance
eclipses that of the music.

If it was, we'd all be employing TDR to do our artwork and releasing
white noise.  
-- 

Benn Glazier 
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net


Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-17 Thread spw
Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in.
I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo that's a 
tough one.

--- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.
 
 Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain
 PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for
 that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way.
 
 In other words $0.00
 
 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist
 
 
 Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations:
 
  absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @
 tronictreatment.com   w/Stewart Walker
 --
 TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA  02180-0010  U.S.A.
 CL #  617.905.9619
 
 http://telepathica.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
  me.
  
  More, please.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
  
  -- Original Message --
  From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  label design and music are equally important.
  
  this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
  
  tom 
  
  
  andythepooh.com
  
  
  
  
  
 


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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-17 Thread Klaas Jan Jongsma

really you make this list so much more fun!


On dinsdag, jun 17, 2003, at 20:33 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote:


Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in.
I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo 
that's a tough one.


--- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.

Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from 
certain
PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. 
for

that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way.

In other words $0.00

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations:

 absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @
tronictreatment.com   w/Stewart Walker
--
TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA  02180-0010  U.S.A.
CL #  617.905.9619

http://telepathica.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it 
for

me.

More, please.



-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

-- Original Message --
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]


label design and music are equally important.


this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.

tom


andythepooh.com










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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-17 Thread MM
or more annoying depending on how many times you like to hit
delete...NEW TOPIC  ANYONE??

michael
www.renegaderhythms.com



Klaas Jan Jongsma wrote:

 really you make this list so much more fun!

 On dinsdag, jun 17, 2003, at 20:33 Europe/Amsterdam, spw wrote:

  Hey, something like this would look good in my portfolio, count me in.
  I'll send you the results if turns out ok, Telepathic records logo
  that's a tough one.
 
  --- FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.
 
  Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from
  certain
  PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc.
  for
  that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way.
 
  In other words $0.00
 
  telepathic regards,
  the kooky scientist
 
 
  Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations:
 
   absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @
  tronictreatment.com   w/Stewart Walker
  --
  TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA  02180-0010  U.S.A.
  CL #  617.905.9619
 
  http://telepathica.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it
  for
  me.
 
  More, please.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
 
  -- Original Message --
  From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  label design and music are equally important.
 
  this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
 
  tom
 
  
  andythepooh.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  =
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Benn Glazier
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 What do you mean for no other reason?
 How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
 label.
 
  The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
  nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
  substitution in a word.

I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
label?  :/


-- 

Benn Glazier 
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net


RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Brendan Nelson
| -Original Message-
| From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:49 AM
|
| I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
| label?  :/

Well, I dunno, the M kinda provides a solid foundation while the space
characters to either side of it give the M room to breathe and provide
fundamental balance... ;)

Brendan



RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Langsman, Marc

Or he likes ketamine ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:51 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin k
 
 
 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills 
 copied Richie Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label. 
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as 
 described in the book Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics 
 a lot of words look better using the letter c instead of a k 
 substitution, with a few exceptions like band Kraftwerk 
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical 
 properties. The label name KMS works well using the letter k 
 especially in caps, it's a nice short abbreviated word, the 
 letter k is not being used as a clever substitution in a word.
 
 
 

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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread spw
label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even 
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  What do you mean for no other reason?
  How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
  label.
  
   The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, 
   it's a
   nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
   substitution in a word.
 
 I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
 the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
 label art or name was poorly executed.
 
 I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
 I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
 cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann.
 
 I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
 hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
 records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
 label?  :/
 
 
 -- 
 
 Benn Glazier 
 aka DJ Royal
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
 http://www.royaltech.net


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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Garrett McGrath

On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 09:54  AM, spw wrote:


label design and music are equally important.


wow.



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

I love that one record label called white label - they have all sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever  the
hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



   
  spw   
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   313@hyperreal.org 

  gy.net  cc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313) Richie 
Hawtin k   
  06/16/03 11:54 AM 
   

   

   




label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  What do you mean for no other reason?
  How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
  label.
 
   The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,
it's a
   nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a
clever
   substitution in a word.

 I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary to
 the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but the
 label art or name was poorly executed.

 I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda cool,
 I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought this
 cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann.

 I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than a
 hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz Audio
 records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
 and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for a
 label?  :/


 --

 Benn Glazier
 aka DJ Royal
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
 http://www.royaltech.net


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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Garrett McGrath
whoever they are, it bugs me that they constantly use those cheap paper 
sleeves.  you'd think that if they are saving so much $ on design they 
could at least cough it up for some real cardboard.


On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I love that one record label called white label - they have all 
sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on 
any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, 
although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever  
the

hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



  spw
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   
313@hyperreal.org

  gy.net  cc:
   Subject:  Re: (313) 
Richie Hawtin k

  06/16/03 11:54 AM






label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:

What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a 
techno

label.

The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in 
caps,

it's a

nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a

clever

substitution in a word.


I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary 
to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but 
the

label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda 
cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought 
this

cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than 
a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz 
Audio

records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for 
a

label?  :/


--

Benn Glazier
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net



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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

label design and music are equally important.

this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread Rob Theakston
Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
me.

More, please.



-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

-- Original Message --
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

label design and music are equally important.

this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread jake

man that mc hammer remix they put out is da bomb!

U CANT TOUCH DIS

:-p


On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 10:06  AM, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I love that one record label called white label - they have all 
sorts of
music - very diverse (but lots of it is crap) and there is no info on 
any
of their records at all, it's the ultimate in typesetting, imho, 
although
sometimes they have a simple black stamp that says promo - whatever  
the

hell that means
anyone know where I can find a discog for them?

MEK



  spw
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   
313@hyperreal.org

  gy.net  cc:
   Subject:  Re: (313) 
Richie Hawtin k

  06/16/03 11:54 AM






label design and music are equally important.
Some labels have a minimal approach to design or at least they try even
though it doesn't look right.

--- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 03:50:19 -0500, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
said:

What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a 
techno

label.

The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in 
caps,

it's a

nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a

clever

substitution in a word.


I actually thought the music was important. Seems like it's secondary 
to
the music though. I'd sooo not buy a record that had good music but 
the

label art or name was poorly executed.

I just bought the new Moodymann record. Whilst the music was kinda 
cool,
I loved the cover with the rose, but the clincher was that I thought 
this

cat was on the level as he uses two n's in Moodymann.

I feel sorry those people who release a record with nothing more than 
a
hand stamped piece of information on it like some of those Ersatz 
Audio

records. They must sell so few records, same for those records like M6
and M7. I mean like who the hell is it and what sort of name is M for 
a

label?  :/


--

Benn Glazier
aka DJ Royal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph:+61 (0)413 316 618
http://www.royaltech.net



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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread MM
yea that was a good one...the white  label thing was pretty good as
well.

michael
www.renegaderhythms.com



Rob Theakston wrote:

 Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
 me.

 More, please.

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

 -- Original Message --
 From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 label design and music are equally important.

 this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.

 tom

 
 andythepooh.com






Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-16 Thread FRED giannelli
OK, hot shot designers.  Here's a contest.

Design me a new Telepathic logo and I'll give you the royalties from certain
PTV royalties or how about what I've received so far from Force Inc. for
that Akufen remix I did of My Kooky Way.

In other words $0.00

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations:

 absolutely none whatsoever . well actually July 7th in NYC @
tronictreatment.com   w/Stewart Walker
--
TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA  02180-0010  U.S.A.
CL #  617.905.9619

http://telepathica.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



on 6/16/03 2:09 PM, Rob Theakston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Man I dunno. I think offering to redesign the Plus 8 artwork did it for
 me.
 
 More, please.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:45 PM
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 label design and music are equally important.
 
 this is the dumbest thing ive read on this list.
 
 tom 
 
 
 andythepooh.com
 
 
 
 
 



RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-15 Thread Wibo Lammerts
Yep, Maurice.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hellige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: vrijdag 13 juni 2003 20:13
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

[Matthew Mangold [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson

Not Maurice?

Matt


-- 
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RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-14 Thread Matthew Mangold
In your original post, you write:

The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
substitution in a word.

therefore, it works because those are his initials, and for no other
reason-- regardless of whether or not it reflects proper design
aesthetics.

Matthew


-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:47 PM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k


on 6/13/03 1:06 PM, Matthew Mangold at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson

 Matthew

I know KMS stands for his enittials that's why I wrote abbreviated word

on 6/13/03 1:13 PM, Garrett McGrath at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the name of Mills' new label is 6277.  the artist on the first release is
 Elektrabel.  jeff didn't copy anything cuz it aint his name.

thanks for clarifying, I geuss this the label Jeff was setting up for new
artist.

 maybe he just kan't spell. :-)

clever sarcasm aside my spelling isn't the greatest but one of my interest
is graphic design and modernist style fonts, looking at words the letter k
stands out like a sore thumb I think Plastikman looks
better with a c as in plastic man (lower case) of course this is just my
subjective opinion, of course I also do not ike the font Richie Hawtin likes
to use for his label.
No offence to Richie Hawtin, I'll offer my services to redesign the Plus 8
label.

on 6/13/03 2:34 PM, The REAL Mxyzptlk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maybe he just kan't spell. :-)

 jeff
 At 01:33 PM 6/13/2003, you wrote:
 Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

 magic = magick
 Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.

 =

 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.

 =


 the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,
it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 =






Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-14 Thread spw
What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
label.
One reason KMS works is because K is at the beginning and M makes a good
foundation giving K and S balance.

I can see why Richie Hawtin used the letter K in Plastikman, because it
doesn't look that bad with the style of font he is using.
I like more simplistic Industrial design looking label designs like the old
Transmat 
label which consisted of a Eurostyle font and logo.

on 6/13/03 6:07 PM, Matthew Mangold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In your original post, you write:
 
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 
 therefore, it works because those are his initials, and for no other
 reason-- regardless of whether or not it reflects proper design
 aesthetics.
 
 Matthew



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-14 Thread spw
What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a techno
label.

on 6/13/03 6:07 PM, Matthew Mangold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In your original post, you write:
 
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 
 therefore, it works because those are his initials, and for no other
 reason-- regardless of whether or not it reflects proper design
 aesthetics.
 
 Matthew



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-14 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What do you mean for no other reason?
How a name looks and sounds is pretty important when designing a
techno
label.
One reason KMS works is because K is at the beginning and M makes
a good
foundation giving K and S balance.

i swear to god man, you must put tons of effort into being as
irritating as you are. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Matt Hellige
[spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.

Yes, it was a joKe. :P




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RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Matthew Mangold
KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson

Matthew




-Original Message-
From: spw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:51 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin k


I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie
Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.

I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using the
letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
Kraftwerk
because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
substitution in a word.







Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Matt Hellige
[Matthew Mangold [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson

Not Maurice?

Matt


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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Garrett McGrath
the name of Mills' new label is 6277.  the artist on the first release is
Elektrabel.  jeff didn't copy anything cuz it aint his name.

- Original Message -
From: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: (313) Richie Hawtin k


 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied
Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.

 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
 Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using
the
 letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
 Kraftwerk
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's
a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.




Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
Reese is a nickname for Maurice. I would assume that Master Reese is also a 
nickname for Maurice. I don't know the answer to your question though. I 
had always assumed it was Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson. Could be wrong 
though.


At 01:13 PM 6/13/2003 -0500, Matt Hellige wrote:

[Matthew Mangold [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson

Not Maurice?

Matt


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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread FRED giannelli
Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
music = musick

musick=magick

Ask Evil Clark...

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
 Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using the
 letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
 Kraftwerk 
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 
 



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread The REAL Mxyzptlk

maybe he just kan't spell. :-)

jeff
At 01:33 PM 6/13/2003, you wrote:

Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
 Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.


=


 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.


=



the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.

=




Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Matt Hellige
[The REAL Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 maybe he just kan't spell. :-)

Y Kant Richie Spell?  :P

(http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS80306131436sql=Bcge997rjkr0t
for the irony-impaired).


Matt

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Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Garrett McGrath
maybe it's really all just Enochian code.

- Original Message -
From: FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k


 Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

 magic = magick
 music = musick

 musick=magick

 Ask Evil Clark...

 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist


 on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied
Richie
  Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
  Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
  I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the
book
  Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using
the
  letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
  Kraftwerk
  because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
  The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,
it's a
  nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
  substitution in a word.
 
 



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

It's just a techno version of what heavy metal bands do
change the i for a y, instead of a ck use an x (or better yet, xxx
because it's dead sexy and the girls will get what you mean, wink wink)
maybe Richie could put some umlauts over the a in Hawtin - or maybe spell
his surname HOTin, or even Hotynn - just cause it looks awesome!

Rychëe Hotynn - yeah, now that rawks (add some lightening bolts to both
ends)

MEK




   
  Garrett McGrath 
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   FRED giannelli 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
313@hyperreal.org 
   
  06/13/03 01:42 PMcc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313) Richie 
Hawtin k   

   




maybe it's really all just Enochian code.

- Original Message -
From: FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k


 Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

 magic = magick
 music = musick

 musick=magick

 Ask Evil Clark...

 telepathic regards,
 the kooky scientist


 on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied
Richie
  Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
  Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
  I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the
book
  Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better
using
the
  letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
  Kraftwerk
  because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
  The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,
it's a
  nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
  substitution in a word.
 
 








RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread FC2 Richards
If I remember correctly, a few years ago (4 or 5) a thread was started
blaming Richie Hawtin's blatent use of the letter K came from his
participation in the KKK.  So that must be where it comes from, since the
people on this list are ALWAYS right...

ha ha!  Maybe not


Jeff

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:34 PM
To: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k


Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
music = musick

musick=magick

Ask Evil Clark...

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied
Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
 Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using
the
 letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
 Kraftwerk 
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's
a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 
 


RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Michael Long
Maybe they all stole it from Erick Sermon?

Mike

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
To: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
music = musick

musick=magick

Ask Evil Clark...

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied
Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.

 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
 Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using
the
 letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
 Kraftwerk
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's
a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.





RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Darren Longton (Marketing)
Diary of a drug fiend - by Aliester Crowley

A MUST read!  ...it's crazy! (before his satanic novels)

-Original Message-
From: FRED giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:34 PM
To: spw; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k


Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
music = musick

musick=magick

Ask Evil Clark...

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
 I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the book
 Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using the
 letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
 Kraftwerk 
 because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 
 



Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread lisa

It's a K-o-n-spiracy!  LOL

lisa


Garrett McGrath wrote:

maybe it's really all just Enochian code.

- Original Message -
From: FRED giannelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: spw [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k




Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.

magic = magick
music = musick

musick=magick

Ask Evil Clark...

telepathic regards,
the kooky scientist


on 6/13/03 12:51 PM, spw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied



Richie


Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.

I understand why Richie Hawtin likes the letter k as described in the



book


Techno Rebels but for design aesthetics a lot of words look better using



the


letter c instead of a k substitution, with a few exceptions like band
Kraftwerk
because the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps,



it's a


nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
substitution in a word.












Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread spw
on 6/13/03 1:06 PM, Matthew Mangold at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 KMS stands for, Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson
 
 Matthew

I know KMS stands for his enittials that's why I wrote abbreviated word

on 6/13/03 1:13 PM, Garrett McGrath at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the name of Mills' new label is 6277.  the artist on the first release is
 Elektrabel.  jeff didn't copy anything cuz it aint his name.

thanks for clarifying, I geuss this the label Jeff was setting up for new
artist.

 maybe he just kan't spell. :-)

clever sarcasm aside my spelling isn't the greatest but one of my interest
is graphic design and modernist style fonts, looking at words the letter k
stands out like a sore thumb I think Plastikman looks
better with a c as in plastic man (lower case) of course this is just my
subjective opinion, of course I also do not ike the font Richie Hawtin likes
to use for his label.
No offence to Richie Hawtin, I'll offer my services to redesign the Plus 8
label. 

on 6/13/03 2:34 PM, The REAL Mxyzptlk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 maybe he just kan't spell. :-)
 
 jeff
 At 01:33 PM 6/13/2003, you wrote:
 Nah, Rich's stole the use of the letter k from Aliester Crowley.
 
 magic = magick
 Jeff Mills copied Richie
 Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label.
 
 =
 
 Alan Oldman also uses the letter k with his label Pure Sonik records.
 
 =
 
 
 the word is in German context and has symmetrical properties.
 The label name KMS works well using the letter k especially in caps, it's a
 nice short abbreviated word, the letter k is not being used as a clever
 substitution in a word.
 =



RE: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Rob Theakston

No offence to Richie Hawtin, I'll offer my services to redesign the
Plus 8
label. 


This is the best thing I've ever seen posted on here. Thank you SO much.






Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Andy Kellman
The use of 'K's just make you seem more THREATENING. 

What would Korn be without the 'k'? They'd just be a vegetable: Corn. 

(This is also why Al Kooper seems more imposing than Alice Cooper, btw.) 

Kantaloupe (UNGH!) 

Cantaloupe (meep)

See? 


Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

Wasn't this a School House Rocks episode?





   
  Andy Kellman
   
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  com cc:  
   
   Subject:  Re: (313) Richie 
Hawtin k   
  06/13/03 04:04 PM 
   
  Please respond to 
   
  andkel
   

   

   




The use of 'K's just make you seem more THREATENING.

What would Korn be without the 'k'? They'd just be a vegetable: Corn.

(This is also why Al Kooper seems more imposing than Alice Cooper, btw.)

Kantaloupe (UNGH!)

Cantaloupe (meep)

See?







Re: (313) Richie Hawtin k

2003-06-13 Thread Ian
On 6/13/03 3:47 PM, spw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Plastikman looks
 better with a c as in plastic man (lower case) of course this is just my
 subjective opinion

DC Comics might take issue with that treatment.  BTW it was interesting
stumbling across this:

http://www.plasticman.ca

-- 
Im