Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza
I really dig it. But I am surprised that the hype kicks in now... Cee- Lo's last albums had that potential too. Maybe it's the DangerMouse connection. Each to his own, eh! On 18/04/2006, at 11:17 PM, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: ot Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is I try and it's amazing. The rest shows they obviously didn't. same ole shxt on every other track. /ot K -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 AM To: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast. I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy). Sebastien Tellier even... If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley for the urban side. I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before, that happens every year, keeps it different at least? On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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I don't think the fest should necessarily take that route, but I was just arguing if you *wanted* to follow the latest trend, that's the way to go. I think this year's festival is representing a certain sound/scene, not the latest sound. My favourite year was the Movement year probably... or the year Carl did it before Marvin intervened. But if it assumes a different character every year that's a good thing - so long as it's not all rave. BTW I don't think Derrick will be playing in 2006 from what I have been told but you never know. I do like some of that emotronica (cute name!) and I've never, ever been into indie (aside from Echo The Bunnymen). Richie Hawtin is supporting that sound, and is a big Nathan Fake fan, as it happens!!! I have his album and like it, but I also like the Voom Voom album at present (v good Detroit sounds on there, minimal, the lot, great stuff). The vibe on Gnarls is massive which intrigues me - as why now? I love that album but I have followed everything Cee-Lo does for years. It's very eccentric. If I were to advise on the fest (not likely!) I'd have Kelley Polar for sure. On 19/04/2006, at 12:29 AM, J.T. wrote: haha thats what i was about to say..gnarls barkley? ceelo and dangermouse? soul will never be hot hot hot and neither is ceelo's voice...very acquired taste. and emotronica or whatever is really developing in a whole different sphere than dance music...indie kids and hipsters and post-rockers etci know lots of these types...and now they're digging into old chi house and stuff. mostly they dont really get detroit techno...i dunno...it's pretty weird. gentrification of electronic music pt 17 every year of the festival there has been plenty of detroit techno, underground electro, underground house...with a sprinkling of more popular stuff. this year that's flipped, err except no electro at all so far and uh...welll...we'll s the festival was special for being a success (doh!) even while it pushed lesser-known (but QUALITY) electronic music -- the kinda stuff 313 used to be about. it's no surprise if it cant keep doing thatbut it also loses everything that made it so special. i'm really tired, feeling cynical...i should just leave it to MEK, who i think has put things very eloquently... ot Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is I try and it's amazing. The rest shows they obviously didn't. same ole shxt on every other track. /ot K -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 AM To: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast. I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy). Sebastien Tellier even... If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley for the urban side. I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before, that happens every year, keeps it different at least? On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen
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On 4/18/06, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vibe on Gnarls is massive which intrigues me - as why now? I love that album but I have followed everything Cee-Lo does for years. It's very eccentric. people think all hiphop from the south is either lil jon or outkast. they dont know what to do with cee-lo since he's neither of those things. If I were to advise on the fest (not likely!) I'd have Kelley Polar for sure. thats a really good idea. maybe they could put him right inbetween photek and regis. tom
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Jaylib was Madlib and Dilla's project. V good album - Champion Sound on Stones Throw. Check it out. They should have that Detroit hip-hop group Lawless Element. I am hearing good stuff about them. On 16/04/2006, at 6:12 AM, Andrew Duke wrote: btw, Fehlmann was wearing a Jay Lib t-shirt. wtf is Jay Lib?! There's a hip hop producer named Jaylib; maybe it was a reference to him? Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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its nice to see Photek on there, I hope he is live as he has to be one of the best producers out there, his album Solaris is a gem.. Yep, I realize that. That's why I'm waiting to find out what tomorrow brings ;-) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/06 02:24 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back -Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred -- www.midnightbeats.de www.reactor-bookings.com www.aonpromotions.com www.kube72.com
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As far as I'm aware Photek has never played live but I've not been following him lately. Can't say a agree re. Solaris Ian, this was when I stopped listening to him! ;) Personally I prefer the genius of his earlier stuff, particularly this: http://www.discogs.com/release/309 on 18/4/06 9:36 am, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its nice to see Photek on there, I hope he is live as he has to be one of the best producers out there, his album Solaris is a gem.. Yep, I realize that. That's why I'm waiting to find out what tomorrow brings ;-) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/06 02:24 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back -Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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yeah off course Seven Samuri is the nuts but I still think Solaris shows that he is a very good producer.. As far as I'm aware Photek has never played live but I've not been following him lately. Can't say a agree re. Solaris Ian, this was when I stopped listening to him! ;) Personally I prefer the genius of his earlier stuff, particularly this: http://www.discogs.com/release/309 on 18/4/06 9:36 am, Ian Cheshire at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its nice to see Photek on there, I hope he is live as he has to be one of the best producers out there, his album Solaris is a gem.. Yep, I realize that. That's why I'm waiting to find out what tomorrow brings ;-) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/06 02:24 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back -Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred -- www.midnightbeats.de www.reactor-bookings.com www.aonpromotions.com www.kube72.com
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I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast. I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy). Sebastien Tellier even... If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley for the urban side. I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before, that happens every year, keeps it different at least? On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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ot Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is I try and it's amazing. The rest shows they obviously didn't. same ole shxt on every other track. /ot K -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 AM To: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast. I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy). Sebastien Tellier even... If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley for the urban side. I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before, that happens every year, keeps it different at least? On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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haha thats what i was about to say..gnarls barkley? ceelo and dangermouse? soul will never be hot hot hot and neither is ceelo's voice...very acquired taste. and emotronica or whatever is really developing in a whole different sphere than dance music...indie kids and hipsters and post-rockers etci know lots of these types...and now they're digging into old chi house and stuff. mostly they dont really get detroit techno...i dunno...it's pretty weird. gentrification of electronic music pt 17 every year of the festival there has been plenty of detroit techno, underground electro, underground house...with a sprinkling of more popular stuff. this year that's flipped, err except no electro at all so far and uh...welll...we'll s the festival was special for being a success (doh!) even while it pushed lesser-known (but QUALITY) electronic music -- the kinda stuff 313 used to be about. it's no surprise if it cant keep doing thatbut it also loses everything that made it so special. i'm really tired, feeling cynical...i should just leave it to MEK, who i think has put things very eloquently... ot Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is I try and it's amazing. The rest shows they obviously didn't. same ole shxt on every other track. /ot K -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 AM To: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast. I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy). Sebastien Tellier even... If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley for the urban side. I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before, that happens every year, keeps it different at least? On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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i should just leave it to MEK, who i think has put things very eloquently... Moi? Eloquent? Rubbish. MEK
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I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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On 4/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. i mean, its not quite as bad as it could have been, but its definitely on its way out of relevence. it would be sad for it to go out like some nonsensical rave. and this lineup after how good last year's festival was? its not even close. the dutch electro guys ALONE were better than almost everything announced so far, and they were one of the lesser known bookings. i really had much higher hopes for paxahau, lets hope they try to redeem themselves. tom
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I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival, but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great, different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere. But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat, Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good idea...some Jazz stuff too... I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It was the first time they played live in fromt onf their families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit artist playing in their real environment, I think its something special. At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some support artists like the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European festival in US, when you are in the city where everything started...something than no other cities in the world can do ? Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival. So, finaly..Its a bit like doing a sweets festival in switzerland without chocolate as the star of the show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah ! Fabrice Fabrice Lig http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500 I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back -Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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On 4/17/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back figures youd be one to justify it. tom
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insert witty comment about toms phat phunky phresh raver backpack Thomas D. Cox wrote: On 4/17/06, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back figures youd be one to justify it. tom
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Yep, I realize that. That's why I'm waiting to find out what tomorrow brings ;-) MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mi.netTo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/17/06 02:24 PM cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza this IS a business venture. todays names bring people out, tomorrows names bring them back -Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick Carter, Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the overload of minimal, etc.) What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF (original) to Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future moving - forward thinking. The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today - right this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two. The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon. MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/14/2006 09:27:52 PM: The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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Two things... 1.) I'm really drunk after two days of drinking/football 2.) The ticket price is worth it alone to see Neil Landstrumm m 3.) I'm going to bed - Up The Blades
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I realize there's a lot of disappointment about the lineup so far, but I look at it this way. There's going to be about six dozen DJs with slots at this thing. *Some* of them are people you may not have seen who will impress -- think of some of those DJs and live performances in the Dutch tent last year. The festival is going into its seventh year, and the novelty has long since worn off. It's not the ideal place for DJs and live performers to do their best, as many a struggling performance on the main stage has shown (which is why I'm especially pleased when our homies like AO, Plaslaiko, Sean Deason and Fab have rocked the house there). It's gonna be fun, enjoy it for what it is. Detroit is a total mess, thousands of people are losing their jobs, the city may even go into receivership this year. Be thankful there is even a festival, at this point, wish Paxahau well and tell 'em not to forget where they come from, and let the good times roll. fh - On Friday, April 14th 2006 at 5:34 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://demf.com/ i dont even know what to say I do! DAN BELL VS. JOSH WINK 15-ROUND STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH!!! :) - Greg P.S. Sorry Phred, every remaining cheesy rave they have in LA (not many left these days) has the same suspects - Donald Glaude, Christopher Lawrence, DJ Dan, etc. etc. blah blah. Boo Paxahau. P.P.S. I just saw The Orb a month or so ago. Like Matt Kane said - think Fehlmann on laptop with Alex mixing records alongside. Pleasant enough, but this is not your father's Orb. I quite enjoy Thomas Fehlmann's solo gigs but I prefer the old Orb if they're going to be billed as The Orb together. P.P.P.S. Where's all the young rising Detroit talent? Ghostly/Spectral crew, etc.? I think I'm going to sit this one out, kids. (Not that I could afford it this year, anyway)
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I'm sorry Fred, but i have never been to detroit, nor ever played at the DEMF ;) (which is why I'm especially pleased when our homies like AO, Plaslaiko, Sean Deason and Fab have rocked the house there).
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oh sorry list, that's two mistakes in two days..:) - Original Message - From: John Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza He ment Fabric Lig...Hurry Submit a correction. On 4/16/06, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry Fred, but i have never been to detroit, nor ever played at the DEMF ;) (which is why I'm especially pleased when our homies like AO, Plaslaiko, Sean Deason and Fab have rocked the house there). -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/313 - Release Date: 15/04/2006
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My bad, I meant Fabrice Lig. Respect to fab -- all of 'em. :) fh -- http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=313 How many 313 listers does it take to change a lightbulb? Five. One to check the catalogue number of the bulb. One to argue that it ain't no bulb if ain't from da 'D. One to argue that European light bulbs are made better. One to moan about how lightbulbs aren't as good as they used to be. And one to get off his arse and change it himself. - I'm sorry Fred, but i have never been to detroit, nor ever played at the DEMF ;) (which is why I'm especially pleased when our homies like AO, Plaslaiko, Sean Deason and Fab have rocked the house there).
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On Apr 14, 2006, at 18:16, Fred Heutte wrote: And the Orb! For those who haven't seen them, they do a very fine live show. Their post-94 stuff isn't very interesting to me but this should be fun. maybe fehlmann will turn down patterson's mixer. i hope so for your sakes! :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 4/14/06, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awww comeon, it's not THAT bad there are actually some good names on that list, but i guess they are not to your taste. i mean, i knew dealing with paxahau that there would be an increase in stuff thats not to my taste. what i didnt expect was nothing but german minimal techno. do we really need all those headliners PLUS a kompakt stage? its a little redundant, isnt it? and some of the names are just way too ravey, donald glaude (no offense fred, ive seen the guy at too many awful warehouse raves 10 years ago to have any interest in seeing him now), doc martin, POTD, photek? i mean their connections to detroit are minimal (ha!) if anything. and how about no suprises, they booked hawtin and speedy j. they do that every year for an afterparty, dont they? BUT i think i do see your pointit's kind of become a festival like any other, a lineup like that can be found at any of the festivals they have in europe. i mean that really is what i didnt want to happen. you can draw lines from detroit to many artists. they happened to pick a bunch who are irrelevent plus a bunch of samey stuff. hopefully theyll add more good stuff to the lineup, especially once they announce all the detroit locals. i guess the real detroit heroes will be playing at the after parties..and that would be the only reason i would or would have come to the demf/movement/fuse-in. i mean as long as i can see the 3 chairs and go record shopping and hang out with my family and friends, itll be a good time. but they could have done something great here and thus far it looks like they havent stepped up to the challenge. tom
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On 4/14/06, Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the Orb! For those who haven't seen them, they do a very fine live show. Their post-94 stuff isn't very interesting to me but this should be fun. i love orbvs terrarvm, that was from 95 and IMO their best stuff. i hope they play their old stuff, not just the new Kompakt approved stuff. theyre definitely one of the more interesting big names out there to pick, im looking forward to their set. tom
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On 4/14/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah that looks like quite a load of trendy (european) club music...with a handful of bright spots.. but it is only 30 names, and if there are still 4 stages hopefully that means there's another 50 or so to come...who knows...it's always a rave anyways... what disturbs me the most thus far is the lack of diversity. thus far there are more jungle deejays (2) than there are electro, hiphop, soul, etc acts all combined (0). its not right! how can there be no electro headliners?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! tom
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Fred Heutte wrote: But this is fine. I'm glad to see my ole buddy Donald Glaude is on the list. Whatever else you can say about Donald (and there is a lot) he'll bring a lot of energy to his set. Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. No matter what he brings he'll do it proper . . . or we'll kick his butt OH My Godgive me a break fred..i have been around in the NW since the scene started here just about, and have NEVER heard donald play ANYTHING worth a crap except the few network breakbeats that crossed overie report to the dance floor...ect... which he was jus jakin dj spuns style anyhow or maybe the RANDOM house set. donald is a joke and has been the source of almost EVERY bad party here in the NWcant believe someone is paying him 5g to play this crap festivalhe is the absolut WRONG choice to play this festival...they jus trying to attract the rave clucks to make the money and not loose there ass..which is another disscussion... but as for donald..he is a joke and i know u are very diverse in your tastes in music...but pleasedonald has ruined countless parties for me and many others here in the NW...and now he is gonna shat all over the festival...just can believe the paxahau fell for his crapy hype and highered himwhat a joke...donald = BIG headache..maybe its just me...and these are my own opinions... but just about anyone who was into detroit/chicago music in the NW has hated donald cause he always played against that style...only time he ever played anything good was in the late 80's when he played a bit of acid music...but who was'nt at the time...he rides trends...and a joke of a dj...very suprised to see you saying any good words about this guy...joke sorry this jus annoy's me michael
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Fred Heutte wrote: But this is fine. I'm glad to see my ole buddy Donald Glaude is on the list. Whatever else you can say about Donald (and there is a lot) he'll bring a lot of energy to his set. Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. No matter what he brings he'll do it proper . . . or we'll kick his butt OH My Godgive me a break fred..i have been around in the NW since the scene started here just about, and have NEVER heard donald play ANYTHING worth a crap except the few network breakbeats that crossed overie report to the dance floor...ect... which he was jus jakin dj spuns style anyhow or maybe the RANDOM house set. donald is a joke and has been the source of almost EVERY bad party here in the NWcant believe someone is paying him 5g to play this crap festivalhe is the absolut WRONG choice to play this festival...they jus trying to attract the rave clucks to make the money and not loose there ass..which is another disscussion... but as for donald..he is a joke and i know u are very diverse in your tastes in music...but pleasedonald has ruined countless parties for me and many others here in the NW...and now he is gonna shat all over the festival...just can believe the paxahau fell for his crapy hype and highered himwhat a joke...donald = BIG headache..maybe its just me...and these are my own opinions... but just about anyone who was into detroit/chicago music in the NW has hated donald cause he always played against that style...only time he ever played anything good was in the late 80's when he played a bit of acid music...but who was'nt at the time...he rides trends...and a joke of a dj...very suprised to see you saying any good words about this guy...joke sorry this jus annoy's me michael
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As I sort of indicated, others' mileage may vary on Donald. I haven't seem him play for a bunch of years, but saw him often in 1993-96, some in Seattle and some elsewhere, and generally he was pretty good and had a couple stellar sets. And of course I've had no business dealings with him so I can't speak to that. Donald always was one to get a strong reaction . . . one way or the other! fh
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i still have high hopes for the rest of the lineup, but such a generic initial schedule gives a bleak outlookgetting the feeling the DETROIT electronic music festival is dead.. this seems just an electronic music festival in detroit, with the scales tipped more than ever towards mainstream (and uhhh noticably white) club culture than in previous years. and i gotta say, all this trendy minimal techno from europe, but if you are really into minimal techno...where is rob hood!? he has yet to actually play at the festival right? is stuff like ark really more familiar to people? well, at least dan bell is there...i was really hoping for monolake too... another joke is Planet of the drums...it's aka dieselboy and a bunch of other clubby jungle dj's, the name of their very stale tour which has been going for something like 7 years nonstop now. you could see it anywhere. if you had very very bad taste. well whatever, but it's pretty disheartening as so far it is a reflection of all the trendy/empty/tired/sub-sub-genre-fied crap that gets me down about the dance music world these days. but at least there is derrick, carl, dbx, orb, and roy davis...and i'm curious about mark broom..
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On 4/14/06, J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i still have high hopes for the rest of the lineup, but such a generic initial schedule gives a bleak outlookgetting the feeling the DETROIT electronic music festival is dead.. this seems just an electronic music festival in detroit, with the scales tipped more than ever towards mainstream (and uhhh noticably white) club culture than in previous years. yeah, i didnt want to point it out but aside from the chicago and detroit people mentioned, i believe donald glaude is the only black artist on there. i gotta say, all this trendy minimal techno from europe, but if you are really into minimal techno...where is rob hood!? he has yet to actually play at the festival right? is stuff like ark really more familiar to people? well, at least dan bell is there...i was really hoping for monolake too... im pretty suprised dan bell was on there, really. his is the name that doesnt belong with the others. ive been dying to see rob hood play the festival, it really needs to happen. monolake would have been good, even a vlad delay set would have been cool and still appealed to the trendy minimalists. another joke is Planet of the drums...it's aka dieselboy and a bunch of other clubby jungle dj's, the name of their very stale tour which has been going for something like 7 years nonstop now. you could see it anywhere. if you had very very bad taste. yeah, they played at an afterparty last year. what is this, WMC pt 2 in detroit? well whatever, but it's pretty disheartening as so far it is a reflection of all the trendy/empty/tired/sub-sub-genre-fied crap that gets me down about the dance music world these days. but at least there is derrick, carl, dbx, orb, and roy davis...and i'm curious about mark broom.. yeah, i keep weighing it and i cant decide if its not as bad as it could have been or if its much worse than i had anticipated. i know which detroit locals shouldnt be booked, if they come through with those guys as their local detroit representation, im going to be very disappointed. tom
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The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the hook drama :) Fred
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the trendy minimalists are the people dan usually plays with here in europe. that's the crowd he caters to. one could only argue that in detroit he might try to do a less trendy set. why the hate? fab. im pretty suprised dan bell was on there, really. his is the name that doesnt belong with the others. ive been dying to see rob hood play the festival, it really needs to happen. monolake would have been good, even a vlad delay set would have been cool and still appealed to the trendy minimalists.
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Just wondering but is this the same guy who had something to do with this: http://interimlover.livejournal.com/386142.html On 15-apr-2006, at 3:07, Renegade808 wrote: Fred Heutte wrote: But this is fine. I'm glad to see my ole buddy Donald Glaude is on the list. Whatever else you can say about Donald (and there is a lot) he'll bring a lot of energy to his set. Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. No matter what he brings he'll do it proper . . . or we'll kick his butt OH My Godgive me a break fred..i have been around in the NW since the scene started here just about, and have NEVER heard donald play ANYTHING worth a crap except the few network breakbeats that crossed overie report to the dance floor...ect... which he was jus jakin dj spuns style anyhow or maybe the RANDOM house set. donald is a joke and has been the source of almost EVERY bad party here in the NWcant believe someone is paying him 5g to play this crap festivalhe is the absolut WRONG choice to play this festival...they jus trying to attract the rave clucks to make the money and not loose there ass..which is another disscussion... but as for donald..he is a joke and i know u are very diverse in your tastes in music...but pleasedonald has ruined countless parties for me and many others here in the NW...and now he is gonna shat all over the festival...just can believe the paxahau fell for his crapy hype and highered himwhat a joke...donald = BIG headache..maybe its just me...and these are my own opinions... but just about anyone who was into detroit/chicago music in the NW has hated donald cause he always played against that style...only time he ever played anything good was in the late 80's when he played a bit of acid music...but who was'nt at the time...he rides trends...and a joke of a dj...very suprised to see you saying any good words about this guy...joke sorry this jus annoy's me michael
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the trendy minimalists are the people dan usually plays with here in europe. that's the crowd he caters to. yeah, sorta. i guess he is pretty full on into that sound now...but i heard some set from late 2005 (maybe i grabbed it here) and it was pretty good...not all clicky lifeless minimal stuff, some variety, and really smart mixing that made it entertaining enough. and just because he plays with those people doesnt mean too much. i have been booked to play with neill landstrumm and ark and others that i have only very generalized similarities to.. one could only argue that in detroit he might try to do a less trendy set. why the hate? i dont think anyone is hating on dan at all? he's one of the bright spots! but the hate is because that trendy minimal stuff sucks real hard. it's a typical sub-sub-genre where its trendiness and specificness means you are in danger of hearing hour long sets of nothing but that sound (which again is such a specific sound it gets samey and boring quick unless you are a nut for it...)but i don't mean to pre-judge...and oh well..
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It's the same Donald that caused the Nightclub owners and bouncers to want to kick off S2 so they could get some of that Engergetic music of Donalds, yes :) Dave Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Just wondering but is this the same guy who had something to do with this: http://interimlover.livejournal.com/386142.html On 15-apr-2006, at 3:07, Renegade808 wrote: Fred Heutte wrote: But this is fine. I'm glad to see my ole buddy Donald Glaude is on the list. Whatever else you can say about Donald (and there is a lot) he'll bring a lot of energy to his set. Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. No matter what he brings he'll do it proper . . . or we'll kick his butt OH My Godgive me a break fred..i have been around in the NW since the scene started here just about, and have NEVER heard donald play ANYTHING worth a crap except the few network breakbeats that crossed overie report to the dance floor...ect... which he was jus jakin dj spuns style anyhow or maybe the RANDOM house set. donald is a joke and has been the source of almost EVERY bad party here in the NWcant believe someone is paying him 5g to play this crap festivalhe is the absolut WRONG choice to play this festival...they jus trying to attract the rave clucks to make the money and not loose there ass..which is another disscussion... but as for donald..he is a joke and i know u are very diverse in your tastes in music...but pleasedonald has ruined countless parties for me and many others here in the NW...and now he is gonna shat all over the festival...just can believe the paxahau fell for his crapy hype and highered himwhat a joke...donald = BIG headache..maybe its just me...and these are my own opinions... but just about anyone who was into detroit/chicago music in the NW has hated donald cause he always played against that style...only time he ever played anything good was in the late 80's when he played a bit of acid music...but who was'nt at the time...he rides trends...and a joke of a dj...very suprised to see you saying any good words about this guy...joke sorry this jus annoy's me michael
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-Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2006 02:49 To: Renegade808 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza but at least there is derrick, carl, dbx, orb, and roy davis...and i'm curious about mark broom.. Every time I've seen Broom in the last few years he's been good, sometimes great. The Orb is just Patterson now right? I'd really like to see Roy Davis Jr. His recent track with Steve Poindexter and somebody else on that Chicago Underground label is nice. He's still got it I reckon. I bet the locals to come later will fill in the lineup nicely. Surely they won't be adding any more of the generic DJs in the remaining slots. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/2006
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- Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Just wondering but is this the same guy who had something to do with this: http://interimlover.livejournal.com/386142.html It's the same guy, but it's doubtful he had anything to do with that b.s. Donald's a showboat but is not a bad guy. Unless he's done a 180 in the past few years, he's respectful and would wait his turn. The club owner and/or security pulled that crap on their own, with *zero* input on ~any~ level from Donald, imo. What Renegade808 said below about Donald's dj-ing and selection is spot on, however. The bit about biting Spun is a bullseye. Playing 'Punisher' a half-dozen times in one's 'career' does not qualify as having done any serious justice to Detroit techno. seek Renegade808 wrote: but as for donald..he is a joke and i know u are very diverse in your tastes in music...but pleasedonald has ruined countless parties for me and many others here in the NW...and now he is gonna shat all over the festival...just can believe the paxahau fell for his crapy hype and highered himwhat a joke...donald = BIG headache..maybe its just me...and these are my own opinions... but just about anyone who was into detroit/chicago music in the NW has hated donald cause he always played against that style...only time he ever played anything good was in the late 80's when he played a bit of acid music...but who was'nt at the time...he rides trends...and a joke of a dj...very suprised to see you saying any good words about this guy...joke sorry this jus annoy's me michael
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On Apr 15, 2006, at 13:51, Tristan Watkins wrote: The Orb is just Patterson now right? nope, patterson and thomas fehlmann. i saw them a couple weeks ago. the local opener was good. fehlmann's dj set was GREAT, the actual orb set that followed was pretty good, but it seemed to be mostly a fehlmann laptop set with patterson trying to mix records into it. it would have been awesome without patterson, imo. patterson then did a solo dj set which i skipped. it sounded like he was moving into badly-mixed hard techno so we left as soon as fehlmann closed up shop. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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a sunshine from croyden!! thanks tristan Every time I've seen Broom in the last few years he's been good, sometimes great. The Orb is just Patterson now right? I'd really like to see Roy Davis Jr. His recent track with Steve Poindexter and somebody else on that Chicago Underground label is nice. He's still got it I reckon. I bet the locals to come later will fill in the lineup nicely. Surely they won't be adding any more of the generic DJs in the remaining slots. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/2006
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- Original Message - From: Matt Kane's Brain i saw them a couple weeks ago. the local opener was good. fehlmann's dj set was GREAT, the actual orb set that followed was pretty good, but it seemed to be mostly a fehlmann laptop set with patterson trying to mix records into it. it would have been awesome without patterson, imo. It ~was~ awesome without LX! I heard/'saw' Thomas Fehlmann, solo, last October, just before the recent Orb album dropped. He played a phenomenal, dubby laptop set: some of the tracks were his recent Plug Research and Kompakt stuff; most of what he played that night turned out to be from 'Okie Dokie...', though he slowed a lot of it down and dub-ub-ub-ub-ub-ub-ed it up, big-time. Great, great show: perspiration paradise! Not sure what LX's contributions were to the album, but not much, apparently. And like you say, that's not a bad thing. btw, Fehlmann was wearing a Jay Lib t-shirt. wtf is Jay Lib?! seek
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- Original Message - From: Tristan Watkins I bet the locals to come later will fill in the lineup nicely. Exactly!=) The site implies as much: the 2006 Festival’s artist lineup, which featurespast festival directors Kevin Saunderson, Carl Craig and Derrick May. However, none of those three are among the names listed in the lineup, which ~is~ titled: Visiting Performers NOTE: Visiting Performers The locals aren't listed in that lineup, apparently. Which isn't to say there'll be any locals other than the above noted three, but the bet and hope is there'll be plenty of local action on all stages. seek
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btw, Fehlmann was wearing a Jay Lib t-shirt. wtf is Jay Lib?! There's a hip hop producer named Jaylib; maybe it was a reference to him? Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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hahaha no there isnt! it's the alias jaydee + madlib used for their project together. -Original Message- From: Andrew Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 15, 2006 4:12 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) jaylib Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza btw, Fehlmann was wearing a Jay Lib t-shirt. wtf is Jay Lib?! There's a hip hop producer named Jaylib; maybe it was a reference to him? Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com http://myspace.com/andrewduke Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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- Original Message - From: J.T. hahaha no there isnt! it's the alias jaydee + madlib used for their project together. Yeah, true, but Jaylib is one word, the way those guys spelled the name. Fehlmann's tee said, JAY LIB. Two words. And it was months before J Dilla's death, so that couldn't've been a factor, unless Fehlmann's clairvoyent. Hmmm: he ~does~ have Professor Xavier's haircut. http://www.efavata.com/CBM/images/xmen3_profX.jpg vs: http://www.les-siestes-electroniques.com/2005/components/com_extcalendar/upload/1f97_Thomas_Fehlmann.jpgAnyway, solid-color (blue, iirc), short-sleeved t-shirt; simple, white text, centered, breast-high:JAY LIBJus' wonderin', 's all.seekThere's a hip hop producer named Jaylib; maybe it was a reference to him?Andrew--Andrew Dukescoring/sound design/sourcehttp://andrew-duke.comhttp://myspace.com/andrewdukeCognition Audioworks label[Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark]http://cognitionaudioworks.com
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On Friday, April 14th 2006 at 5:34 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://demf.com/ i dont even know what to say I do! DAN BELL VS. JOSH WINK 15-ROUND STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH!!! :) - Greg P.S. Sorry Phred, every remaining cheesy rave they have in LA (not many left these days) has the same suspects - Donald Glaude, Christopher Lawrence, DJ Dan, etc. etc. blah blah. Boo Paxahau. P.P.S. I just saw The Orb a month or so ago. Like Matt Kane said - think Fehlmann on laptop with Alex mixing records alongside. Pleasant enough, but this is not your father's Orb. I quite enjoy Thomas Fehlmann's solo gigs but I prefer the old Orb if they're going to be billed as The Orb together. P.P.P.S. Where's all the young rising Detroit talent? Ghostly/Spectral crew, etc.? I think I'm going to sit this one out, kids. (Not that I could afford it this year, anyway)
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i'd go just for sumner and regis. but this is wrong list for talk of those blokes. and i'm prolly not going. =] On Apr 15, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Greg Earle wrote: On Friday, April 14th 2006 at 5:34 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://demf.com/ i dont even know what to say I do! DAN BELL VS. JOSH WINK 15-ROUND STEEL CAGE DEATHMATCH!!! :) - Greg P.S. Sorry Phred, every remaining cheesy rave they have in LA (not many left these days) has the same suspects - Donald Glaude, Christopher Lawrence, DJ Dan, etc. etc. blah blah. Boo Paxahau. P.P.S. I just saw The Orb a month or so ago. Like Matt Kane said - think Fehlmann on laptop with Alex mixing records alongside. Pleasant enough, but this is not your father's Orb. I quite enjoy Thomas Fehlmann's solo gigs but I prefer the old Orb if they're going to be billed as The Orb together. P.P.P.S. Where's all the young rising Detroit talent? Ghostly/ Spectral crew, etc.? I think I'm going to sit this one out, kids. (Not that I could afford it this year, anyway)
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On Apr 14, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. i know this horse has already been beat but reading that nearly made me spit my drink all over the computer. a little warning next time!
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awww comeon, it's not THAT bad there are actually some good names on that list, but i guess they are not to your taste. BUT i think i do see your pointit's kind of become a festival like any other, a lineup like that can be found at any of the festivals they have in europe. i guess the real detroit heroes will be playing at the after parties..and that would be the only reason i would or would have come to the demf/movement/fuse-in. cheers, fab. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza http://demf.com/ i dont even know what to say tom -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/311 - Release Date: 13/04/2006
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I'm hoping that they're just putting the 'big names' up on the website because they think it will attract a non-specialist audience... Not a very encouraging sign.
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Dan Bean wrote: I'm hoping that they're just putting the 'big names' up on the website because they think it will attract a non-specialist audience... Not a very encouraging sign. At the bottom is does say more local acts are TBA. jeff
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I have to admit the idea of having it at Tiger Stadium was kinda cool. But this is fine. I'm glad to see my ole buddy Donald Glaude is on the list. Whatever else you can say about Donald (and there is a lot) he'll bring a lot of energy to his set. Donald's the first west coast DJ I ever saw (circa 1993) doing serious justice to Detroit techno. No matter what he brings he'll do it proper . . . or we'll kick his butt :) And the Orb! For those who haven't seen them, they do a very fine live show. Their post-94 stuff isn't very interesting to me but this should be fun. My vote is to bring Liquid Liquid back. That was one of the best things I've ever seen at the festival. Fred
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yeah that looks like quite a load of trendy (european) club music...with a handful of bright spots.. but it is only 30 names, and if there are still 4 stages hopefully that means there's another 50 or so to come...who knows...it's always a rave anyways... I'm hoping that they're just putting the 'big names' up on the website because they think it will attract a non-specialist audience... i assume so...
