RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
Indeed - horsing around comes out of boredom don't it? If people are unhappy with the 'quality' of communication on this list, start communicating, instead of moaning - I'd rather have a bunch of jokers in my box, than a bunch of moaners. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio right. I apologise for extending this thread even further, but I have email rage.. 1) Don't call me a BRIT. It's f**king offensive, or I find it so anyway. You don't find us calling you YANK do you? 2) How come as soon as KJ sticks his head over the wall to make a pretty valid point about the list, you get a whole bunch of people piping in telling us how poor the list is? Where are all these people when the list needs valuable contributions? So, you don't feel strongly enough to contribute anything worthwhile, but as soon as you feel you can get away with having a moan, you do. Oh man, whats all that about? Names that I never see in my inbox, moaning? Please, contribute something that we can all talk about - you might see less 'jokes' then, or other boredom related posts. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
right. I apologise for extending this thread even further, but I have email rage. 1) Don't call me a BRIT. It's f**king offensive, or I find it so anyway. You don't find us calling you YANK do you? 2) How come as soon as KJ sticks his head over the wall to make a pretty valid point about the list, you get a whole bunch of people piping in telling us how poor the list is? Where are all these people when the list needs valuable contributions? So, you don't feel strongly enough to contribute anything worthwhile, but as soon as you feel you can get away with having a moan, you do. Oh man, whats all that about? Names that I never see in my inbox, moaning? Please, contribute something that we can all talk about - you might see less 'jokes' then, or other boredom related posts. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
> I don't mind a bit of noise to be honest, if there was less chit chat do > you > all feel there would be more people from the D here, is that what this is > about? What next - We need more one eyed lesbo women in wheelchairs :) > Actually , I think what is wanted is not more people from the D here (I'm from Portland OR myself), which is quite a ways away from the D. I think what is wanted is more talk about music that is from or related to the D. Rather then what they are going to be wearing at the next club night, as I've seen in some posts... I can't say that I"m the most active person on the list by any stretch, but when I do speak, I try to make it in relation to what this list is about. I also like Brendan's idea of policing as we go. If we see specific posts that are off topic to bring it up then. I guess... i've added enought noise myself to the signal, so time to filter myself... Dave
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
mmm So are you blaming UK people for bringing the quality down then? If they didn't post here who would then? 313 is just about living or being in the D - crikey what a box to put what we do in! If mail from certain people drives you mad, just set your mail up to delete them. martin > > On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music in > > Europe and the UK? > > There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to each > > other geographically than in the US, so they have more to talk about. > > That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying here that > if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for this list > that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. Maybe > another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that your > posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of them > might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need for > something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we dutchies > have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for years now. > It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in 1994 when > this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary this > year!). > > > > From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > > post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > > Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > > Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > > >
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
I don't mind a bit of noise to be honest, if there was less chit chat do you all feel there would be more people from the D here, is that what this is about? What next - We need more one eyed lesbo women in wheelchairs :) I'd love to see more quality posts, with info, interviews and mixes but it's up to the list as a whole to make the effort to change things around, no good just moaning. Take the rough with the smooth, "put up or shut up" my old man used to say. Martin Dust - Original Message - From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio > It seems to me that, as a self-moderated list, what the 313 list is supposed > to do is - this may seem a little radical - moderate itself. By this I don't > mean converting the 313 list into a web forum or installing some vengeful > and pedantic autocrat as arbiter of what should or should not be discussed > on 313. > > Instead, why not chip in whenever you think someone's posted something that > steps over the line into wholly off-topic territory? Conversations like this > thread can be a bit ineffectual sometimes, because while there might be a > common agreement that "there should be less extraneous posts" there are most > likely differing ideas on what exactly constitutes an extraneous post. And > as long as that's the case, this issue will just keep on coming up. > > I remember a good few years back (it's 313's tenth anniversary in September) > there used to be the "ob313" habit, with people excusing off-topic content > by sticking something pointedly on-topic into the e-mail as well. That > convention seemed to stabilise things for quite a while; some similar common > notion of what makes a post acceptable or unacceptable might well be helpful > now. > > For example, a post I made last week is what I'd actually call unacceptable: > the one where I jokily responded to MEK's post about being > definition-obsessed. That sort of thing is a bit much, and I'm willing to > hold my hands up to it. > > But what would it take to have made it an acceptable post? An ob313-type > sentence immediately after the pointless remark? A couple of sentences on, > say, the degree to which Detroit techno fans are definition-obsessed > compared to the "mainstream" electronic music community? That's the question > that needs to be answered, and I think that once the line's been established > we can get back to the sorts of engaging and often quite challenging debates > that used to take place here on 313. There's no need to burn down the whole > house just because someone spilt an ashtray. > > Brendan > > >
RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
It seems to me that, as a self-moderated list, what the 313 list is supposed to do is - this may seem a little radical - moderate itself. By this I don't mean converting the 313 list into a web forum or installing some vengeful and pedantic autocrat as arbiter of what should or should not be discussed on 313. Instead, why not chip in whenever you think someone's posted something that steps over the line into wholly off-topic territory? Conversations like this thread can be a bit ineffectual sometimes, because while there might be a common agreement that "there should be less extraneous posts" there are most likely differing ideas on what exactly constitutes an extraneous post. And as long as that's the case, this issue will just keep on coming up. I remember a good few years back (it's 313's tenth anniversary in September) there used to be the "ob313" habit, with people excusing off-topic content by sticking something pointedly on-topic into the e-mail as well. That convention seemed to stabilise things for quite a while; some similar common notion of what makes a post acceptable or unacceptable might well be helpful now. For example, a post I made last week is what I'd actually call unacceptable: the one where I jokily responded to MEK's post about being definition-obsessed. That sort of thing is a bit much, and I'm willing to hold my hands up to it. But what would it take to have made it an acceptable post? An ob313-type sentence immediately after the pointless remark? A couple of sentences on, say, the degree to which Detroit techno fans are definition-obsessed compared to the "mainstream" electronic music community? That's the question that needs to be answered, and I think that once the line's been established we can get back to the sorts of engaging and often quite challenging debates that used to take place here on 313. There's no need to burn down the whole house just because someone spilt an ashtray. Brendan
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
Wow...just joined and can see the issues already. Has anyone ever considered putting the mailing list into a password protected forum? You have enough replys where it would be a better functioning system of delivering the information. With email you cant sort by subject and pick and choose what to read. You can build a seriously nice community with a forum or you can let it sink to new lows. With proper administration and using tested and tried templates you could kill the complaints about S:N Ratio and actually deliver content. Hell I would even be willing to pay for registering the domain, pay the hosting on the domain, setting up the forums and moderating them with a few respected members of the community. John Patterson - Admin of www.detroitmovementguide.com
RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
I agree with not adding very strict rules, but if everyone takes the initiative to understand the purpose of the 313 and respects the views of everyone.. I'm from the 313 and there are tons of 313ers on the list still. I was off for a few years and just came back and hope to stay.. TS1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 2:39 PM To: synthetic tom Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio just one more from me on this topic (noise) and then I'll shut it. ;) I can see all the points of view, and appreciate that this is a self-moderated list. I think it would be a mistake to clamp down very strict rules (I think the ones we already have are fine) or isolate particular groups because that could harm creativity and spontaneity. Maybe if we all just try to remember to chill on the "attaboys" or "I agree, yeah" kinda mails (plus the OT stuff) then that would reduce the list traffic? A little variety/diversity is nice tho' and can often fuel actual 313-related stuff. imho. I don't post often because I work and am in grad school full time. by the time I have 2 seconds to sit down, my brain is often so fried there would just be no point. My filtered mail box at home has 2200+ '313' messages right now 'cos I haven't had time to go thru them all (and I don't like the digest format). But I will go thru them & just delete the ones that I don't find relevant - it's not a big deal to me, but that's just me. lisa - Original Message ----- From: synthetic tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, March 8, 2004 2:26 pm Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio > correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is > in > the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? > > delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. > noise is > an inherent part of any community, online or real life. > > and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: > > lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott > "slowly surely") > > t > > On Mar 8, 2004, at 2:09 PM, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: > > > > > On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > >> Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit > music in > >> Europe and the UK? > >> There certainly more events going on and the people are closer > to > >> each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to > talk > >> about. > > > > That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying > here that > > if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for > this list > > that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. > Maybe > > another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that > your > > posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of > them > > might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need > for > > something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we > dutchies > > have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for > years now. > > It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in > 1994 when > > this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary > this > > year!). > > > > > >> From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > >> post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > >> Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > >> Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it.
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
> correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is in > the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? Ironic, but that's the way one has to do it, when one is on a self moderated list. We can't write to a moderator and have them step in, it's something that we have to ourselves. There's good and bad to a self moderated list, but it's the way that 313 has been doing it for the last 10 years. > > delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. noise is > an inherent part of any community, online or real life. At least for me, maybe I'm slower then some people, but delete's take more then a second for me. When I'm presented with 50-100 messages and some of them are good and some of them are bad, you have to go through the bad ones to find out which are the good ones. That's why I think Phred indicated that he only reads emails from people's who he knows, as most of the time, people aren't even talking about the subject that is on the subject line, so you think you're reading about something that you're really not. I kind of think of it as lurking SPAM. Noise is an inherent part of any community, I do agree, but we use filters to try to reduce that noise. The particular filter on this list is "313", and that's how I have attempted to reduce the noise for non 313 stuff. Unfortunately, I don't see very much stuff about Detroit Techno on this list... I know many people who have just left the list and don't want to deal with it. I've been lurking on this list since just after it started, when I was logging in with my 14.4 baud modem on my Mac Plus ( I know, I was behind the times, even then!) and the signal to noise ratio has never been so high as it has in the last year or two. Also, using the 313 as a chat room, goes against 1 of few rules that we have on here: * List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. > > and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: > > lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott > "slowly surely") > Remember... please insert DETROIT related artist here ;) Have a good DETROIT day to you all ... Dave
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
just one more from me on this topic (noise) and then I'll shut it. ;) I can see all the points of view, and appreciate that this is a self-moderated list. I think it would be a mistake to clamp down very strict rules (I think the ones we already have are fine) or isolate particular groups because that could harm creativity and spontaneity. Maybe if we all just try to remember to chill on the "attaboys" or "I agree, yeah" kinda mails (plus the OT stuff) then that would reduce the list traffic? A little variety/diversity is nice tho' and can often fuel actual 313-related stuff. imho. I don't post often because I work and am in grad school full time. by the time I have 2 seconds to sit down, my brain is often so fried there would just be no point. My filtered mail box at home has 2200+ '313' messages right now 'cos I haven't had time to go thru them all (and I don't like the digest format). But I will go thru them & just delete the ones that I don't find relevant - it's not a big deal to me, but that's just me. lisa - Original Message - From: synthetic tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, March 8, 2004 2:26 pm Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio > correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is > in > the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? > > delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. > noise is > an inherent part of any community, online or real life. > > and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: > > lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott > "slowly surely") > > t > > On Mar 8, 2004, at 2:09 PM, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: > > > > > On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > >> Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit > music in > >> Europe and the UK? > >> There certainly more events going on and the people are closer > to > >> each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to > talk > >> about. > > > > That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying > here that > > if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for > this list > > that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. > Maybe > > another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that > your > > posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of > them > > might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need > for > > something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we > dutchies > > have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for > years now. > > It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in > 1994 when > > this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary > this > > year!). > > > > > >> From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > >> post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > >> Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > >> Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > > > >
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
i'll bet you theo occupies more e-mails on this list than anyone else. is there a way to check that imaginary stat? On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, synthetic tom wrote: > correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is in > the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? > > delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. noise is > an inherent part of any community, online or real life. > > and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: > > lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott > "slowly surely") > > t > > On Mar 8, 2004, at 2:09 PM, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: > > > > > On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > >> Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music in > >> Europe and the UK? > >> There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to > >> each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to talk > >> about. > > > > That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying here that > > if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for this list > > that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. Maybe > > another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that your > > posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of them > > might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need for > > something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we dutchies > > have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for years now. > > It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in 1994 when > > this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary this > > year!). > > > > > >> From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > >> post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > >> Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > >> Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > > > >
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is in the form of complaints regarding noise. kind of ironic, right? delete takes a second. let people say what they want to say. noise is an inherent part of any community, online or real life. and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread: lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott "slowly surely") t On Mar 8, 2004, at 2:09 PM, kj at technotourist dot org wrote: On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music in Europe and the UK? There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to talk about. That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying here that if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for this list that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. Maybe another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that your posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of them might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need for something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we dutchies have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for years now. It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in 1994 when this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary this year!). From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ...
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
I join Greg Earle in the Society to Suppress >> Ditto to all comments about the overflow on 313. I have about 2200 messages from 313 since January 15 in my archive. That's an average of 42 a day; weekdays are usually considerably higher; a few days have been over 100. I have given up reading anything except by those I know personally, as a result. fred
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
On 8-mrt-04, at 19:10, Robert Taylor wrote: Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music in Europe and the UK? There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to talk about. That might be true but that isn't my point. I am just saying here that if i have to delete 40 funny posts or one-liners per day for this list that we should all think twice before posting a message to 313. Maybe another list might be more suitable for this. Just be aware that your posting something to a list with 800+ members and that most of them might not be interested in your post. If there might be a need for something like a 313-UK list or something please do so, we dutchies have our own lowlands-mailinglist (also known as [low]) for years now. It isn't as hard to start a new list these days as it was in 1994 when this list was created (yes people its 313's 10th anniversary this year!). From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ...
Re: RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
well, we're in the US as well - I don't know how many, but we're here. I was reminded of this while sorting thru my vinyl last weekend, getting nostalgic & finding old rekkids with a "313" area code on them for the label/artist contact info. I just visited Detroit for the first time last year, but it's been an important musical connection for me for years. lisa (admits to being off topic sometimes - LOL) - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, March 8, 2004 1:10 pm Subject: RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio > > Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music > in Europe and the UK? > There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to > each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to > talk about. > -Original Message- > From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:05 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio > > > Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > # > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > stated. This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for > the use of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have > received this email in > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank You. > # > >
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > if you go see surgeon and want to report on his set, that's great- one of > the reasons I sub. But all the little in jokes are pretty tiresome for > thos eof us who live in the diaspora. > yeah and all that talk about 'the telly' and 'knees-up' and 'knackered' and 'getting pissed' and 'smoking fags.'
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
i'll agree with the fact that there seems to be a pretty large brit contingent who have turned this list into their own little chat-room for talking about last weekends activities. if you go see surgeon and want to report on his set, that's great- one of the reasons I sub. But all the little in jokes are pretty tiresome for thos eof us who live in the diaspora. On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Greg Earle wrote: > On Mar 8, 2004, at 17:41 PM, KJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No it means that the last couple of weeks 90% of the e-mail goes to my > > trashcan. I don't mind some chit-chat on this list but lately it got > > out of control. I have been on and of this list the last couple of > > months just for that reason; the much off topic e-mail and one-liners. > > I'm with you up to here, KJ ... > > > If you want to talk about non 313-related e-mail that's fine with me > > but this list is not the place for that. Create your own > > list/forum/chatbox for that. I like 313 I have been on it for almost > > 10 years, well maybe 9 and I like discussions and no I don't mean that > > there is no room for something else then Techno created by people whose > > phone number starts with 313 but at least it has to have some relevance > > to the subject... > > Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people > post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from > Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the > Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... > > > now start shooting me... > > OK, I will start shooting you for this :-) > > Everything was fine up to here, then you blew it by one of my > pet peeves: including all the previous text you were replying to, > including the endless "Channel Four Television Corporation" > disclaimers (yes, I know the actual posters can't do anything > about that themselves) and "Entergy-Koch Trading Limited" > isclaimers and whatnot. C'mon people - how hard is it to select > text with your mouse and press "Delete"? I can do it - surely so > can all of you. > > - Greg > >
RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
Isn't this just because there are more people into Detroit music in Europe and the UK? There certainly more events going on and the people are closer to each other geographically than in the US, so they have more to talk about. -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio
On Mar 8, 2004, at 17:41 PM, KJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No it means that the last couple of weeks 90% of the e-mail goes to my trashcan. I don't mind some chit-chat on this list but lately it got out of control. I have been on and of this list the last couple of months just for that reason; the much off topic e-mail and one-liners. I'm with you up to here, KJ ... If you want to talk about non 313-related e-mail that's fine with me but this list is not the place for that. Create your own list/forum/chatbox for that. I like 313 I have been on it for almost 10 years, well maybe 9 and I like discussions and no I don't mean that there is no room for something else then Techno created by people whose phone number starts with 313 but at least it has to have some relevance to the subject... Agreed ... hasn't anyone noticed that hardly any Detroit people post here anymore? I just looked at the first Digest from Jan. 2000 and almost all the posts (except for Cyclone and the Dutchies) were from Detroit/Michigan peeps ... now start shooting me... OK, I will start shooting you for this :-) Everything was fine up to here, then you blew it by one of my pet peeves: including all the previous text you were replying to, including the endless "Channel Four Television Corporation" disclaimers (yes, I know the actual posters can't do anything about that themselves) and "Entergy-Koch Trading Limited" isclaimers and whatnot. C'mon people - how hard is it to select text with your mouse and press "Delete"? I can do it - surely so can all of you. - Greg
