Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
Well seeing as he's already been mentioned ;o) I'll just add that last week at Turnmills, Dave Clarke rocked it with the CD decks! All the usual scratching / tricks, faultless for 2 hours & improved quality sound! My friends & I agreed that he is a DJ back on form (after a dip in the last year or two.) "Maarten Baute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Matt MacQueen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> lenet.be>cc: "Alex Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "david siska" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313" <313@hyperreal.org> 26/04/05 19:23 Fax to: Please respond toSubject: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com "Maarten Baute" Hi Matt, > Ha!! well thanks for your support Maarten the difference may be > they are commercially funded by radio advertisers? We are fortunately > not advertiser supported, which means we are sort of living in a fools' > paradise. ;) well, they get their funds of my tax money! So they are supported by governement money, collected from the citizens. No advertisment. But as I understand it, they have to reach a 6% market share to get some more funds or something. So what they want to get more people listening to their station, and that's probably why they are a bit more on the commercial side of things as they used to be five years ago. In the '97-'98 period they had every week a Dave Clarke show (when he was still a great dj, with a wide selection in music). And he once dedicated a whole show on Chicago Booty (Dj Funk, Deeon, etc.). That was awesome. Last year they had dj Godfather over, but this is the last half hour I remember as being great. They fill their time mostly with overrated hyped up electro inspired house with the same cold impotent synth sounds all the way thru. Ah well... hoping for a better time to come. Cheers, Maarten __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
I received a brilliant post from jeff, but he couldn't get it thru to the list, so thought I'd post it. Thanks Jeff!! Okay - in spite of my (possibly better) instincts to the contrary and because of Alex's nudging (read below), I will post this to the list. The caveat I will tack onto it is that perhaps - depending on your specific timeframe of reference - things were happening in places on the radio in Detroit where I wasn't listening. I am not about to position myself as an expert on the period or as an omniscient being. Certainly I grew tired of not finding what I was looking for on the radio and I stopped looking for stretches. And during the very late 80s, I shut it all off. However, I stand by my words and for what it's worth, I have the emerging gray to mark me as a veteran of the era :-) If you have a different history, fine. But this is how I experienced and recall it. > Virtually everyone I knew 'back then' was very jealous of YOUR radio - we > would never have had any of the things we read about in NME or Melody Maker > on our best stations. The people that knew about any of the Ann Clarks were > record geeks (like myself) who dug the stuff up, bartered for the razormaid > remix LPs (I used to trade weed for them :-) and then lent those to DJs and > other geeks. > I have spent and probably always will spend a tremendous amount on music. > Back then we didn't have email lists...we had the Brit. papers, the indie > record labels and the odd late night, VERY off the dial radio stuff as well > as clubs (which rarely played me anything I didn't already know through the > above). The notion that mainstream radio grabbed any of this stuff is > revisionist history, pu! re and s imple. I didn't want to be so strong in my > stance onlist as it seems like I may already be somewhat 'distanced' from > the common stream there and I don't wish to further alienate myself from it > by polarized statements- but I was there and I WAS in the thick of it. > I recall once when a New York DJ/producer (Ivan Ivan) was a guest DJ > in Detroit and a good friend (Chris Ewen - now a member of Future Bible > Heores) whose band (Figures on a Beach) Ivan was remixing > marched me up for an introduction during a break. For small talk, I > surmised that the exposure in New York must be tremendous. Ivan turned to > me and said "I am the exposure...I could turn you on to so much, it would > make your head spin". > Chris looked at Ivan and said "No - I'm afraid you couldn't.". > That merely to say I bought a LOT of records and I looked under a LOT of > rocks for music - because those were the only places to find it back then. > Certainly not on the radio except in radically small pockets - and I would > wager that those pockets would not have existed without the financially > irresponsible "experimental" record buyers like myself who were busy > playing those records for their friends who had avenues to spread it > farther. Diatribe off. :-) > > jeff > jeff > _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread
Well I would if I was going but as a spoilt-for-choice Londoner, I'm going to see Mugison, Raf Rundell and Herbert play in a pub up the road from my gaff -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 16:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To make you even more envious, Tom, Theo is playing at Plastice People (best soundsytem and club in the country) tomorrow and it's FREE! yes, FREE youre obviously trying to make my head explode. id pay $100 to hear theo play on a busted soundsystem anywhere in pittsburgh. if i was rich id be on a plane right now :P i expect a full report and tracklisting and hopefully a bootleg recording of the set. get cracking. ;) tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread
-- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To make you even more envious, Tom, Theo is playing at Plastice People (best soundsytem and club in the country) tomorrow and it's FREE! yes, FREE youre obviously trying to make my head explode. id pay $100 to hear theo play on a busted soundsystem anywhere in pittsburgh. if i was rich id be on a plane right now :P i expect a full report and tracklisting and hopefully a bootleg recording of the set. get cracking. ;) tom andythepooh.com
RE: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread
To make you even more envious, Tom, Theo is playing at Plastice People (best soundsytem and club in the country) tomorrow and it's FREE! yes, FREE -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 13:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >well, yeah, I did point out that is was more than likely a "grass is always >greener on the other side" type situation. > >dunno, was just interested to find out. Yep, and by what you're saying >perhaps we are better off than you. i would say almost definitely. the fact that you have radio stations that play actually interesting music is pretty incredible to me. even better is that people actually listen to it! thats just not the reality of things here. even the biggest urban areas in the US dont have the kind of coverage of good stuff that you guys have on major radio. >Theo Parrish was on gilles petersons show I think. not listened to be >honest. it's very easy to criticise I guess, and not as easy to admit that >maye we are better off than most. ive DLed the mp3 for repeated listening! i cant imagine turning on a clear channel station and hearing theo talking. thats because it would never, ever happen. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more aradio type thread
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >well, yeah, I did point out that is was more than likely a "grass is always >greener on the other side" type situation. > >dunno, was just interested to find out. Yep, and by what you're saying >perhaps we are better off than you. i would say almost definitely. the fact that you have radio stations that play actually interesting music is pretty incredible to me. even better is that people actually listen to it! thats just not the reality of things here. even the biggest urban areas in the US dont have the kind of coverage of good stuff that you guys have on major radio. >Theo Parrish was on gilles petersons show I think. not listened to be >honest. it's very easy to criticise I guess, and not as easy to admit that >maye we are better off than most. ive DLed the mp3 for repeated listening! i cant imagine turning on a clear channel station and hearing theo talking. thats because it would never, ever happen. tom andythepooh.com
RE: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more a radio type thread
VPRO is a dutch radio and tv channel who always followed their own path...very much into underground/independent/non-commercial and weird stuff:-) ranging from guitar bands to d&b to gothic to rap to metal to techno to breakbeats. Check out their dj-sets section on www.3voor12.nl also the webradio shows are quite cool to listen to... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 27 april 2005 15:20 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more a radio type thread >dood, theo parrish was on radio 1 the other night. are you kidding >me?!?!?!?! i would KILL for radio like that. and whats the "urban" >station called? jesus. i appreciate our public and college radio >stations too, but come on. well, yeah, I did point out that is was more than likely a "grass is always greener on the other side" type situation. dunno, was just interested to find out. Yep, and by what you're saying perhaps we are better off than you. Theo Parrish was on gilles petersons show I think. not listened to be honest. it's very easy to criticise I guess, and not as easy to admit that maye we are better off than most. I just look around at europe too and see various things/stations that look interesting. is that vpro station in holland a national? is it any good? they seem to have intersting bits and pieces etc. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
WAS: Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com NOW: more a radio type thread
>dood, theo parrish was on radio 1 the other night. are you kidding >me?!?!?!?! i would KILL for radio like that. and whats the "urban" >station called? jesus. i appreciate our public and college radio >stations too, but come on. well, yeah, I did point out that is was more than likely a "grass is always greener on the other side" type situation. dunno, was just interested to find out. Yep, and by what you're saying perhaps we are better off than you. Theo Parrish was on gilles petersons show I think. not listened to be honest. it's very easy to criticise I guess, and not as easy to admit that maye we are better off than most. I just look around at europe too and see various things/stations that look interesting. is that vpro station in holland a national? is it any good? they seem to have intersting bits and pieces etc. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I always admired americas radio set-up from afar. some of the college radio >shows look great. I always thought it seemed a better set up than what we >have here, but, well, I dunno. dood, theo parrish was on radio 1 the other night. are you kidding me?!?!?!?! i would KILL for radio like that. and whats the "urban" station called? jesus. i appreciate our public and college radio stations too, but come on. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
>The only thing I care to add to this is the qualifier that 'big on the >radio' needs to be severely limited to a very few shows in particular >places and times...like in the middle of the night/end of the dial in >most cases. cheers jeff, muchos gracias. wouldn't have a clue about it, some places you read that this kind of radio programming was 'mainstream'. thats the impression you get. so to hear it wasn't is interesting. thanks! alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
It's a constant source of surprise to hear of all these records that were big on the radio in detroit or whatever. The only thing I care to add to this is the qualifier that 'big on the radio' needs to be severely limited to a very few shows in particular places and times...like in the middle of the night/end of the dial in most cases. When Ann C. was cranking out those tracks - trust me - outside of record geeks, select DJs and clubbers who paid attention, very few people in my experience ever heard them. That's not to say I had a lid on everything happening, but I was in my mid/late 20s, going to a lot of gigs, ordering imports for a record store and about town a bit. jeff
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>I think many major US cities have good alternative college/community >radio programming... That was a real interesting read matt, thanks. I always admired americas radio set-up from afar. some of the college radio shows look great. I always thought it seemed a better set up than what we have here, but, well, I dunno. I think it may be a case of the grass is greener on the other side. I don't listen to any music on the radio really to be honest. feel kinda sad there isn't a show like yours I could tune into every week on the radio dial look forward to, and really connect with. there just isn't one though. I think we're real lucky to have the bbc, I presume I'm right in thinking you have nothing nationwide no? and, with 1extra, I think I'm right in thinking that if you have an interest in modern day 'urban' music, this is a pretty ok station. if you live in a large city, theres generally a few pirates worth checking, but overall, like usa, its a world of over commercialised s**t, with a few pockets of people like yourselves doing their thing on local stations etc.. (think dan of the list for example..). Blah blah blah. got verbal diarohea this morn. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
David Siska wrote:"yep, anne clark w/ david harrow - sleeper in metropolis has a green sleeve. the way the drums are produced on that record is so aggressive and metallic, and the whole track is about drama moreso than being a party track (it's darker than a lot of new wave, though it's got a similar feel to section 25 - looking from a hilltop). it's more of an electro record than 'our darkness', and i'm not entirely sure of its popularity on detroit radio - maybe someone like dan, sean, or alan can speak to that... i know that in chicago, 'our darkness' was definitely a bigger record." well thank you David. All these little stories are pretty interesting to me. I can't remember where I read that this record was 'big in detroit'. It may well have been some record dealer trying to big it up. It would be interesting to know though. It's a constant source of surprise to hear of all these records that were big on the radio in detroit or whatever. I guess they make sense when you think about it. alot of them are so harsh though, it's kinda strange. maybe some of the warmth in the new 'techno music' came from elsewhere. maybe even from chicago in one way or another. (early warm chi house records, or maybe their (chicago) taste in 'proto techno' wasn't so harsh. it would be nice to know more (about the early parties and radio in detroit), its something thats always interested me greatly. there doesn't seem to be much on the internet. the wbmx shows are well documented, and theres lists of records they used to play, same goes for ron hardy too. No one ever seems to want to say anything about MOJO. perhaps its a boring subject to some. perhaps its some big secret or something - I dunno. Perhaps just people cant be bothered. Also, the djs at the parties in the early 80's - I have no idea what these guys played. What DID they play at the chari-vari parties? periods such as these in other cities are well-documented in books, on the internet, compilation lps, even films in some cases. sad there's not much from detroit. whats going on there? Most I've ever found out is that mojo played prince, cybotron, the b-52's etc. I can't believe that he inspired an entire musical generation with solely prince records! some big secret, or, just no one with the time required to document it? anyway, if one day i ever get to detroit, maybe i can find out for myself by finding some old fellas willing to talk about it. maybe just maybe anyway. anyways. more pontificating later. alex p.s. "speaking of which, last friday's radio session with chicago's steve tang guesting was pretty intense" I look forward very much to that! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
No lie there Maarten- it's ace every week- these guys have a genuine love for the music and it really shows cheers Jason On 26 Apr 2005, at 16:27, Maarten Baute wrote: That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know the track... but I've CC'd him. I've probably lied today by telling on a forum that Sonic Sunset is the best radioshow in the world at the moment ;-) I was complaining about the quality of the belgian house/techno related show SWITCH on the Studio Brussel station. They are playing way too much Electro-House for my taste. They assured me it is not possible to deliver quality and still have a large audience. Then I talked about SS. I don't know hom many listeners you have... but there are 6 million Dutch speaking belgians, and 10 million people in chicago? And the studio brussel station has about 4% market share. So it could be that you have as much listeners. And even if they have 5 times more, your show is 10 times better. So you beat them with a ratio of 2. :-) Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
> Hmm, I think his show here was called "dave clarke worldwide" and between > the tracks he played recorded messages of other dj's raving about dave > clarke ;-) Oh wait, I think it was called "Technologie", yes, that was it! Worldwide was a show wich he did after 2000, I think. It wasn't nearly half as good. Cheers, Maarten
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> this was a good era for him. i remember he had a radio pilot called > "the truth", (that's not what you heard, was it?) in mid 90's.i > think it only ran once or twice in the Uk but Rob Webb (old 313'er) > sent me a tape of it... it was good. vicious mixing and he talked > about the tracks he played here and there... though so many were UR > white labels it was funny trying to hear him give info on something > there was no info for. Strong selections though, for techno,... raw > and hard hitting jack trax too. Hmm, I think his show here was called "dave clarke worldwide" and between the tracks he played recorded messages of other dj's raving about dave clarke ;-) He was a great dj back then. I remember his dj set at "I Love Techno" in Ghent in '98. It was amazing. It's untrue. He mixed a lot of double copies. Just letting two of the same records play (so you hear a phaser) with a 2 bar hook, then he hold the first record for a beat and puts it back in, so now you have a repeating hook of 1 beat long. It was crazy. Then he dropped "Lil Louis - Original Video Clash" at 135 BPM. How did he do that? That track is 115 BPM or something? And putting it at 45 would be too fast. Every 30 seconds there was a new track coming out of the speakers, with a totaly different sound. I don't have the mix anymore and don't find it on soulseek, but I need it so much. It's entertaining. Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
yep, anne clark w/ david harrow - sleeper in metropolis has a green sleeve. the way the drums are produced on that record is so aggressive and metallic, and the whole track is about drama moreso than being a party track (it's darker than a lot of new wave, though it's got a similar feel to section 25 - looking from a hilltop). it's more of an electro record than 'our darkness', and i'm not entirely sure of its popularity on detroit radio - maybe someone like dan, sean, or alan can speak to that... i know that in chicago, 'our darkness' was definitely a bigger record. speaking of which, last friday's radio session with chicago's steve tang guesting was pretty intense - he dropped about 5 razormaid mixes, including 'our darkness' and some other random joseph watt remixes i've never heard of. hopefully the recording worked out...you guys are in for a treat. On 4/26/05, Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I noticed Matt played this record on his show: > > > > Anne Clarke - Sleeper In Metropolis > > > > I have this 12", green cover right Matt? > > > > Had it for quite a while, but never really pull it out much, much > > prefer > > Our Darkness. Had this one way before I had Our Darkness. > > > > Someone told me it was "Big In Detroit" at the time. That true?? Was > > it on > > the radio alot or something? > > > > That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know > the track... but I've CC'd him. > > I was in detroit that friday w/ family (and drove back thru a crazy > April snowstorm on sunday?! confirming my belief that Detroit is in > fact Oppositeland, USA) > > Which also reminds me to post that weeks playlist to 313, expect to see > it come across 313 list in a sec > > -- > MM > http://sonicsunset.com > >
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
On Apr 26, 2005, at 1:23 PM, Maarten Baute wrote: In the '97-'98 period they had every week a Dave Clarke show (when he was still a great dj, with a wide selection in music). this was a good era for him. i remember he had a radio pilot called "the truth", (that's not what you heard, was it?) in mid 90's.i think it only ran once or twice in the Uk but Rob Webb (old 313'er) sent me a tape of it... it was good. vicious mixing and he talked about the tracks he played here and there... though so many were UR white labels it was funny trying to hear him give info on something there was no info for. Strong selections though, for techno,... raw and hard hitting jack trax too. peace -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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Hi Matt, > Ha!! well thanks for your support Maarten the difference may be > they are commercially funded by radio advertisers? We are fortunately > not advertiser supported, which means we are sort of living in a fools' > paradise. ;) well, they get their funds of my tax money! So they are supported by governement money, collected from the citizens. No advertisment. But as I understand it, they have to reach a 6% market share to get some more funds or something. So what they want to get more people listening to their station, and that's probably why they are a bit more on the commercial side of things as they used to be five years ago. In the '97-'98 period they had every week a Dave Clarke show (when he was still a great dj, with a wide selection in music). And he once dedicated a whole show on Chicago Booty (Dj Funk, Deeon, etc.). That was awesome. Last year they had dj Godfather over, but this is the last half hour I remember as being great. They fill their time mostly with overrated hyped up electro inspired house with the same cold impotent synth sounds all the way thru. Ah well... hoping for a better time to come. Cheers, Maarten
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On Apr 26, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Maarten Baute wrote: That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know the track... but I've CC'd him. I've probably lied today by telling on a forum that Sonic Sunset is the best radioshow in the world at the moment ;-) I was complaining about the quality of the belgian house/techno related show SWITCH on the Studio Brussel station. They are playing way too much Electro-House for my taste. They assured me it is not possible to deliver quality and still have a large audience. Then I talked about SS. I don't know hom many listeners you have... but there are 6 million Dutch speaking belgians, and 10 million people in chicago? Ha!! well thanks for your support Maarten the difference may be they are commercially funded by radio advertisers? We are fortunately not advertiser supported, which means we are sort of living in a fools' paradise. ;) So I don't have to worry if what we spin fits a certain advertiser's marketing demographic target (which is usually the way a commercial station gets to the uncomfortable reality of QUANTITY of listeners over the QUALITY of the music they play). This setup is a luxury that the community radio ssytem in the US affords us. And we just happen to have a big listening reach because of the huge population density of chicago, especially by the lakeshore where we broadcast from. But we have to do annoying pledge drives to raise money for the station expenses periodically. Still, i'd rather do that than have to have commercials interrupting the mixes, and then be under the thumb of demanding advertisers who begin to dictate what you must play so that your music appeals to their advertising target. Gramaphone Records used to sponsor/underwrite the show in part, but due to their own economic realities they had to stop... but that was about as good as an underwriter as we could have ever asked for! I think many major US cities have good alternative college/community radio programming... and even small and medium size cities if they have universities, etc. I can think of many other good ones. They're just hidden down on the left end of the dial and usually lower powered transmitters than the giant ClearClannel monopoly commercial stations have. Most people don't know this but music selected at most ClearChannel stations in the US is not even picked by a human. A database figures out the right mix of major label music to suit marketing demographics dictated by advertising spend. All the "DJs" do is announce and transition from programming into commercials and local announcements such as weather and traffic. It's pathetic, really, some are even recorded days in advance and stitched together by a technican, the shows aren't even "live" in any sense of the word.Of course there are some exceptions for specialty programming shows where the Dj is positioned as genre expert (blues, jazz, etc.,.. usually on sunday nights in local markets) but usually a database is still the "selector" for most prime time programming on "hit radio" kind of stations. peace, -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
> That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know > the track... but I've CC'd him. I've probably lied today by telling on a forum that Sonic Sunset is the best radioshow in the world at the moment ;-) I was complaining about the quality of the belgian house/techno related show SWITCH on the Studio Brussel station. They are playing way too much Electro-House for my taste. They assured me it is not possible to deliver quality and still have a large audience. Then I talked about SS. I don't know hom many listeners you have... but there are 6 million Dutch speaking belgians, and 10 million people in chicago? And the studio brussel station has about 4% market share. So it could be that you have as much listeners. And even if they have 5 times more, your show is 10 times better. So you beat them with a ratio of 2. :-) Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) Ann Clarke - big in detroit (?) sonicsunset.com
On Apr 26, 2005, at 9:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed Matt played this record on his show: Anne Clarke - Sleeper In Metropolis I have this 12", green cover right Matt? Had it for quite a while, but never really pull it out much, much prefer Our Darkness. Had this one way before I had Our Darkness. Someone told me it was "Big In Detroit" at the time. That true?? Was it on the radio alot or something? That particular show was a solo ride by dave siska so I dunno even know the track... but I've CC'd him. I was in detroit that friday w/ family (and drove back thru a crazy April snowstorm on sunday?! confirming my belief that Detroit is in fact Oppositeland, USA) Which also reminds me to post that weeks playlist to 313, expect to see it come across 313 list in a sec -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
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A just thinking now, I was totally unaware that there were any edits of it, maybe I heard an edit? There used to be a lot of mixes of her stuff afoot maybe 20 years ago. Razormaid loved her. jeff
Re: (313) Ann Clarke
>can someone explain to me the attraction people have to 'our darkness' I heard it in a club not long ago. and now I need one!! I don't need it for £45 though. £45, sheesh. I heard Environ were doing Gaz Nevada's Special Agent Man soon (dunno where I heard that), that's one I can't fathom out, so I know what you mean. I dunno, different things float different peoples boats though I guess. just thinking now, I was totally unaware that there were any edits of it, maybe I heard an edit? or maybe not. what came first, the chicken or the egg? all these things I'll never know the answer to. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Ann Clarke
Not me. I bought her stuff right when it came out and she seemed a bit thin to me then. Wears off fast and it's pretty much the same ticket on everything she's done. Just my .02. j At 11:41 AM 5/4/2004, Matt MacQueen wrote: can someone explain to me the attraction people have to 'our darkness' ?I mean not EVERYTHING Hardy played was genuis... ;) err...
Re: (313) Ann Clarke
can someone explain to me the attraction people have to 'our darkness' ?I mean not EVERYTHING Hardy played was genuis... ;) err... I just don't feel it... too brittle or something for me? There is a re-edit of it on the Paul Raymond series (on the flip side of Chicago's Street Player, which i love.. by comparison) that you can probably still find http://www.discogs.com/release/153000 peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com