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On 23 Sep 2010, at 21:01, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 I'm quite surprised at all the negative feedback both on 313 and RA to Rick's interview, largely on the basis of his comments about the vinyl / digital debate in answer to just a few questions out of the whole article. I thought he came off quite well overall. I don't feel people have been that negative, if you're going to be outspoken then you should at the very least expect people to answer back. For a remarkably different perspective, check out: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/little-white-earbuds-interviews-shed/ A lot of people didn't seem to like the above interview much, I kinda did :) m
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On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote: If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) Haha Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the case ever since music became a commodity? Ask Franz Schubert or Charlie Parker... There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about real musicians in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which kinda voids his arguement about learning a trade because using a drum machine sure does bypass years of learning. Americans seem to be much more obsessed with authentic and real - like Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you can't help but pay respect. And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you a good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying about that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea! m PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)
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I disagree with most of what Wilhite says about working digital, but I have to say he knows how to make a party deep. It is always the case that people with venal motivations can parlay a small amount of talent and a ruthless instinct for self-promotion into a career. They can appeal to an audience that likes their art to be a useful lifestyle accessory, that are scared of art that affects them deeply and changes their view of the world. They want their prejudices confirmed, not challenged. That social contract, between the panderer and the pandered to, is the most common form of 'art.' It's a fraudulent transaction -- they promise you more than they deliver, and people accept it at face value. I'd contend that they're being cheated. They're being uncritical consumers of a substandard product. It's the difference between a proper meal made from scratch and something that comes frozen or in a tin. But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously. Which is the long way round to this: It's not the technology, it's what people do with it. There are loads of people content to use it to perform the same cheap tricks over and over, but it doesn't mean there's nothing deep that can be done with it. Case in point: PanSonic. They sure don't make deep house music, but they used their laptops to make sounds so deep you can feel the magma flowing. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote: If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) Haha Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the case ever since music became a commodity? Ask Franz Schubert or Charlie Parker... There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about real musicians in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which kinda voids his arguement about learning a trade because using a drum machine sure does bypass years of learning. Americans seem to be much more obsessed with authentic and real - like Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you can't help but pay respect. And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you a good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying about that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea! m PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)
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It's not my raison d'être and I doubt it is Rick's. And it's a side issue to what I was talking about. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 14:11, kent williams wrote: But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously. So why worry about it and why make it your reason for being? m
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On 23 Sep 2010, at 14:11, kent williams wrote: But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously. So why worry about it and why make it your reason for being? m
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I disagree with most of what Wilhite says about working digital, but I have to say he knows how to make a party deep. I disagree as well, and I'm hoping one day I can tell him in person! But he's still a very skilled and talented producer and an excellent DJ to boot. To me that far out-weighs what I see as wrongheadedness about the validity of different production techniques. And even that is his point of view, which he's entitled to. I'm certainly not going to insult him as if he's evil or stupid simply because of his views, as some people on RA think they've got a right to. Whatever. Ken It is always the case that people with venal motivations can parlay a small amount of talent and a ruthless instinct for self-promotion into a career. They can appeal to an audience that likes their art to be a useful lifestyle accessory, that are scared of art that affects them deeply and changes their view of the world. They want their prejudices confirmed, not challenged. That social contract, between the panderer and the pandered to, is the most common form of 'art.' It's a fraudulent transaction -- they promise you more than they deliver, and people accept it at face value. I'd contend that they're being cheated. They're being uncritical consumers of a substandard product. It's the difference between a proper meal made from scratch and something that comes frozen or in a tin. But you can't force people to take their own lives seriously. Which is the long way round to this: It's not the technology, it's what people do with it. There are loads of people content to use it to perform the same cheap tricks over and over, but it doesn't mean there's nothing deep that can be done with it. Case in point: PanSonic. They sure don't make deep house music, but they used their laptops to make sounds so deep you can feel the magma flowing. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote: If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) Haha Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the case ever since music became a commodity? Ask Franz Schubert or Charlie Parker... There's too many contradictions in the piece, he talks about real musicians in one breath and then about programming a drum machine in the next, which kinda voids his arguement about learning a trade because using a drum machine sure does bypass years of learning. Americans seem to be much more obsessed with authentic and real - like Bruce Springsteen is their poster boy! Techno for me is about saying fcuk off to those rockisms. The whole history of electronic music and sound design really interests me and when you read about how this guys struggled, you can't help but pay respect. And as far as I'm aware, all the equipment in the world still won't write you a good track. And sure, Beatport's top 10 is a crock of shite but worrying about that is like trying to influence the weather by making a cup of tea! m PS I also wonder if he's ever seen Kraftwerk live :)
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I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and be judged on the results. I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs. I can disagree with him and still have mad respect for him. And honestly, what he believes that (arguably) isn't so is much saner than a lot of things artists say they believe. How much crazy sh*t has Prince said over the years? As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments left on blogs websites. The best thing I can say for a lot of them is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.
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On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote: I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and be judged on the results. I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs. I can disagree with him and still have mad respect for him. Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime. m
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Well, at least this got everyone talking! And lay off the Dad chat you lot :) Jason On 23 September 2010 16:39, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote: I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and be judged on the results. I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs. I can disagree with him and still have mad respect for him. Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime. m
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Kent, did you seriously just type raison d'être on an email list? You're such an elitist!!! ;-) ~David On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:14 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: It's not my raison d'être
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http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 I'm quite surprised at all the negative feedback both on 313 and RA to Rick's interview, largely on the basis of his comments about the vinyl / digital debate in answer to just a few questions out of the whole article. I thought he came off quite well overall. For a remarkably different perspective, check out: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/little-white-earbuds-interviews-shed/ m50 At 2010.09.23 10:27, kent williams wrote: As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments left on blogs websites. The best thing I can say for a lot of them is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.
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On Sep 23, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 02:44, David Powers wrote: If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) Haha Back in the day, we didn't have no flat wax, we used cylinders My reaction when I read The industry is in total shambles — from the pressing plant to the mastering plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists themselves. All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe music is worth more than a dollar. If that. was If this was 100 years ago, Rick would've been a blacksmith/farrier banging on about the Ford Model T ruining his horseshoeing business. Adapt Or Die. - Greg
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it's not a surprise to me, since he calls things as he sees them, and that approach is bound to get at least a few negative responses from the forum responses on ra. that, and the forum-reading crowd always loves to pick a side (i'm for digital-he's for vinyl!), instead of addressing valid--if directly stated--points that rick addressed. i didn't get a vinyl vs. digital vibe from his answers either. more a noob vs. someone that honed their craft vibe. -wojtek On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 I'm quite surprised at all the negative feedback both on 313 and RA to Rick's interview, largely on the basis of his comments about the vinyl / digital debate in answer to just a few questions out of the whole article. I thought he came off quite well overall. For a remarkably different perspective, check out: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/feature/little-white-earbuds-interviews-shed/ m50 At 2010.09.23 10:27, kent williams wrote: As for RA commenters, one should not judge humanity on the comments left on blogs websites. The best thing I can say for a lot of them is that at least they're sitting at their computer typing instead of going out in the world and actualizing their hatred and ignorance.
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I don't think Rick is really out of line with many other DJs from across the spectrum. He's summed up how many DJs feel. Also there is the hideous spectre of 'Facebook clubbing' here in Oz where people seem to go out only to spend time on their phones and posting pics. On 24/09/2010, at 2:09 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Well, at least this got everyone talking! And lay off the Dad chat you lot :) Jason On 23 September 2010 16:39, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 23 Sep 2010, at 16:27, kent williams wrote: I think that people should produce music how they want to produce, and be judged on the results. I think if you stand where Rick Wilhite stands, you'd be justifiably skeptical of digital DJs. I can disagree with him and still have mad respect for him. Absolutely, I'd have a beer and a slice of pound cake with him anytime. m
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On 21 Sep 2010, at 18:56, wojciech wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 It's so, so weird reading an interview from some who's into electronic music but bangs on like your f*cking dad! m
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I think he is a dad, FWIW. Anyway, I thought he just sounded forthright and a little opinionated. Nothing wrong with that. He makes a lot of sense to me. Ken -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com] Sent: 22 September 2010 10:28 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) New interviews On 21 Sep 2010, at 18:56, wojciech wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 It's so, so weird reading an interview from some who's into electronic music but bangs on like your f*cking dad! m
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On 22 Sep 2010, at 11:41, Odeluga, Ken wrote: I think he is a dad, FWIW. Then he should know better :) and should probably buy a guitar. m
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(Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, wojciech wojtek@gmail.com wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: ...The whole entertainment industry has created people that really have no passion doing what we do, as a producer, as a remixer, as a DJ. All these new websites and everything have totally annihilated the industry. Nowadays anybody can just do overnight what took somebody else ten years to really become sufficient enough or experienced enough to do. The industry is in total shambles—from the pressing plant to the mastering plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists themselves. All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe music is worth more than a dollar. If that. http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 -With Jeff Mills: ...In my generation we learned differently from the way most DJs are learning now. Most of us came into DJing from being musicians, so when we thought about tracks to play, we were thinking about song structure – we had musical structure to refer to. I’m just trying to create a much more balanced view of what DJing is all about. http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/09/03/interview-jeff-mills/ -- -Mike
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You'll be lucky if you even manage to wake a few folk up with your comment Mike! Nowadays, there's no way will you be able to start a flame war of the kind we used to enjoy so well in days of yore. Still, I'm often surprised by the odd familiar name showing up as still subscribed, even though they've not posted anything for years, till today! ;-) Ken -Original Message- From: kuszyn...@gmail.com [mailto:kuszyn...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 September 2010 14:59 To: wojciech Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) New interviews (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM, wojciech wojtek@gmail.com wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: ...The whole entertainment industry has created people that really have no passion doing what we do, as a producer, as a remixer, as a DJ. All these new websites and everything have totally annihilated the industry. Nowadays anybody can just do overnight what took somebody else ten years to really become sufficient enough or experienced enough to do. The industry is in total shambles-from the pressing plant to the mastering plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists themselves. All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe music is worth more than a dollar. If that. http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 -With Jeff Mills: ...In my generation we learned differently from the way most DJs are learning now. Most of us came into DJing from being musicians, so when we thought about tracks to play, we were thinking about song structure - we had musical structure to refer to. I'm just trying to create a much more balanced view of what DJing is all about. http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/09/03/interview-jeff-mills/ -- -Mike
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On 22 Sep 2010, at 14:58, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. Not sure if that's really correct, you still have to understand structure and key changes when DJing... m
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I agree with you on that - my own perspective focuses more on the sound design and point of origin of the seed that was planted for electronic music inside oneself. Not that I have necessarily a deep amount of successful credibility (I did a self-released 12 and album, am not terribly devoted to externalizing my recordings), but I always approached electronic music from the synthesizer, the sound making machine, and not from the record. I suppose I started wanting to make techno before I heard techno. Alternatively, my musical interests are probably at least 50% outside of techno/dance music, and fall into industrial, noise, ambient, and a lot of what I think of as some of the most special UK stuff from the 90's like orbital, orb, fsol, underworld. Dancey music, yes. After these 4, doesn't even make sense to consider drivel like min_s something real. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 22 Sep 2010, at 14:58, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. Not sure if that's really correct, you still have to understand structure and key changes when DJing... m -- -Mike
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On 22 Sep 2010, at 15:26, kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you on that - my own perspective focuses more on the sound design and point of origin of the seed that was planted for electronic music inside oneself. Not that I have necessarily a deep amount of successful credibility (I did a self-released 12 and album, am not terribly devoted to externalizing my recordings), I personally don't think it matters if you've had a commercial release or not. but I always approached electronic music from the synthesizer, the sound making machine, and not from the record. I suppose I started wanting to make techno before I heard techno. I have tapes from 1978 that are much the same, there's structure there but it's off-kilter, you can see it change when I got an ST and had lessons :) I've always tried to have a good mix of sound design and structure but mostly it's the music/track that dictates that I find. Alternatively, my musical interests are probably at least 50% outside of techno/dance music, and fall into industrial, noise, ambient, and a lot of what I think of as some of the most special UK stuff from the 90's like orbital, orb, fsol, underworld. Dancey music, yes. After these 4, doesn't even make sense to consider drivel like min_s something real. Nods, we've gone from The Beatles to Lustmord this morning :) m
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Wasn't Mills DJing long before he began making records? Or am I misunderstanding the connection you're making? I started making music long before I ever tried to DJ, but it was more lack of opportunity and not having $1200 to drop on 1200s and a mixer. Somehow picking up a synth for a couple hunderd bucks every so often was more managable. People that DJ first often have an intuitive grasp of what makes a good dance track. Whether that starts them down the path to artistic excellence is another question. One does have to attain some minimal musical knowledge along the way though. I people who have released records who are functionally tone-deaf. I've actually 'music-doctored' a few tracks for them, where I had to tell them how to get their chords and basslines in the same general key, tune the vocal samples, etc. And of course, they're way more successful than I am. And I have 2 years of college as a music major. There is a big difference between DJs who start producing, and DJs who hire ghost producers to make tracks for them because they're too busy or coked up to learn how to do it properly themselves. That some weak sh*t, and it's remarkably common, especially among the big room techno and progressive DJs. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making.
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You are right, I jumped from my feeling of Mills as having a very musical, tone and synth oriented style, and tried to describe more of a mental philosophy, at least as I see it. Mills obvious first public success and work was in the dj/radio department. I'm glad, however, that I touched upon the vein of dj does not have to equal musician (and frankly, plenty of great musicians make horrible dj's) On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't Mills DJing long before he began making records? Or am I misunderstanding the connection you're making? I started making music long before I ever tried to DJ, but it was more lack of opportunity and not having $1200 to drop on 1200s and a mixer. Somehow picking up a synth for a couple hunderd bucks every so often was more managable. People that DJ first often have an intuitive grasp of what makes a good dance track. Whether that starts them down the path to artistic excellence is another question. One does have to attain some minimal musical knowledge along the way though. I people who have released records who are functionally tone-deaf. I've actually 'music-doctored' a few tracks for them, where I had to tell them how to get their chords and basslines in the same general key, tune the vocal samples, etc. And of course, they're way more successful than I am. And I have 2 years of college as a music major. There is a big difference between DJs who start producing, and DJs who hire ghost producers to make tracks for them because they're too busy or coked up to learn how to do it properly themselves. That some weak sh*t, and it's remarkably common, especially among the big room techno and progressive DJs. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. -- -Mike
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afaik, mills started as a drummer when he was still in high school. whether he already dj'ed around that time, i don't know. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:06 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: You are right, I jumped from my feeling of Mills as having a very musical, tone and synth oriented style, and tried to describe more of a mental philosophy, at least as I see it. Mills obvious first public success and work was in the dj/radio department. I'm glad, however, that I touched upon the vein of dj does not have to equal musician (and frankly, plenty of great musicians make horrible dj's) On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Wasn't Mills DJing long before he began making records? Or am I misunderstanding the connection you're making? I started making music long before I ever tried to DJ, but it was more lack of opportunity and not having $1200 to drop on 1200s and a mixer. Somehow picking up a synth for a couple hunderd bucks every so often was more managable. People that DJ first often have an intuitive grasp of what makes a good dance track. Whether that starts them down the path to artistic excellence is another question. One does have to attain some minimal musical knowledge along the way though. I people who have released records who are functionally tone-deaf. I've actually 'music-doctored' a few tracks for them, where I had to tell them how to get their chords and basslines in the same general key, tune the vocal samples, etc. And of course, they're way more successful than I am. And I have 2 years of college as a music major. There is a big difference between DJs who start producing, and DJs who hire ghost producers to make tracks for them because they're too busy or coked up to learn how to do it properly themselves. That some weak sh*t, and it's remarkably common, especially among the big room techno and progressive DJs. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: (Here comes some flame bait) And this is why I really like Jeff Mills. Frankly, I know very few electronic music people who look at things as producers. They become producers after djing, which to me isn't musical, it's beat making. -- -Mike
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If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the case ever since music became a commodity? Ask Franz Schubert or Charlie Parker... Still, if you look at the reality of what the technology boom of the 90's promised and what the true result of this technology has been, it certainly has lived up to the utopian hype that was floating about, especially in the late nineties... Of course, not everyone bought into the hype even then. Anyway, for me there is no question that our current technology is bringing about certain dystopian results. And the pro-technology crowd, to my mind, just sounds idiotic in there rapturous worship of the latest market trend. It's not really about technology though, it's about the level of human thinking; I don't see many new ideas being introduced and I think that the essential limits of our thinking were really defined in the fifties and sixties of the twentieth century. From my point of view, the new millenium never really arrived. Year 2000 was an illusion. Also, I don't know of any electronic work that has come close to the sophistication of the greatest acoustic music, perhaps because the instruments for such music probably haven't been created, and the techniques are relatively new. I firmly believe that really great things often take multiple generations of human existence to come to fruition. I am certain that such works will exis someday however, I'm not saying that acoustic music is somehow superior ... but right now humans do not have the will or the imagination to create such works. ~David On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 21 Sep 2010, at 18:56, wojciech wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 It's so, so weird reading an interview from some who's into electronic music but bangs on like your f*cking dad! m
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Thx for posting these, both really great interviews! P. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, wojciech wojtek@gmail.com wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: ...The whole entertainment industry has created people that really have no passion doing what we do, as a producer, as a remixer, as a DJ. All these new websites and everything have totally annihilated the industry. Nowadays anybody can just do overnight what took somebody else ten years to really become sufficient enough or experienced enough to do. The industry is in total shambles—from the pressing plant to the mastering plant, the people that make the labels and the jackets, to the actual artists themselves. All of that is totally gone because most people don't believe music is worth more than a dollar. If that. http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 -With Jeff Mills: ...In my generation we learned differently from the way most DJs are learning now. Most of us came into DJing from being musicians, so when we thought about tracks to play, we were thinking about song structure – we had musical structure to refer to. I’m just trying to create a much more balanced view of what DJing is all about. http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/09/03/interview-jeff-mills/
