Re: (313) string synth sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okj0fNbMndY On 24 jul 2010, at 19.21, g wrote: Just as an aside, anyone looking to do some similar stuff in a modern DAW should probably own the Korg Legacy Digital VST/RTAS set of plugins. I have a template in Cubase SX3 simply called Detroit that consists of Korg M1, two Wavestation modules, and two FM8 modules (which I use to import all of my old TX81z and DX7 patches via sysex). -Original Message- From: Daniel Troberg [mailto:erasemu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:10 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@me.com Date: må 19 jul 2010 20.07.26 GMT+02:00 To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound thats very interesting, X can be the key. Im not after how to do it, I know that stuff already. Im interested in which gadget it is. the only thing below with some kind of second hand value is the 909 yes, , I know two friends with mills signed 909s,, both in sweden. funnn. blocks : easier yes, funnier nooo On 13 jul 2010, at 06.39, Mike Taylor wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
RE: (313) string synth sound
Just as an aside, anyone looking to do some similar stuff in a modern DAW should probably own the Korg Legacy Digital VST/RTAS set of plugins. I have a template in Cubase SX3 simply called Detroit that consists of Korg M1, two Wavestation modules, and two FM8 modules (which I use to import all of my old TX81z and DX7 patches via sysex). -Original Message- From: Daniel Troberg [mailto:erasemu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:10 AM To: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@me.com Date: må 19 jul 2010 20.07.26 GMT+02:00 To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound thats very interesting, X can be the key. Im not after how to do it, I know that stuff already. Im interested in which gadget it is. the only thing below with some kind of second hand value is the 909 yes, , I know two friends with mills signed 909s,, both in sweden. funnn. blocks : easier yes, funnier nooo On 13 jul 2010, at 06.39, Mike Taylor wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) string synth sound
From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@me.com Date: må 19 jul 2010 20.07.26 GMT+02:00 To: Three-One-Three 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound thats very interesting, X can be the key. Im not after how to do it, I know that stuff already. Im interested in which gadget it is. the only thing below with some kind of second hand value is the 909 yes, , I know two friends with mills signed 909s,, both in sweden. funnn. blocks : easier yes, funnier nooo On 13 jul 2010, at 06.39, Mike Taylor wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) string synth sound
Actually if you add an MMT8, which is also dirt cheap (although they sometimes lose their memory), sequencing that gear is reasonably easy ... well if you either know how to play parts or stick to somewhat reasonable step sequences. Of course you could also just use able to run all that gear off of something like Ableton, I suppose you'd just need some CV-Midi converter for the 909. Running old gear off of Ableton actually gives great results, at my friend's house we were messing with his Memory Moog that way and it sounded really great. He had been using a tracker before I got him hooked on Ableton! haha ~David On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) string synth sound
A 909 has MIDI. An 808 doesn't but if you have a 909 or a 707 or a 727, they have DIN Sync out and can clock an 808 or a 606. As an Ableton W*nker I've noticed something curious about 909s -- if a track uses a 909 as the master clock, the tempo is overall very steady, but even and odd measures are slightly different lengths. Makes warping tracks a little weird. I had an MMT8 and used it a lot in the late 90s. I sent it to Shawn Rudiman last year since he's still using them for everything. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:11 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Actually if you add an MMT8, which is also dirt cheap (although they sometimes lose their memory), sequencing that gear is reasonably easy ... well if you either know how to play parts or stick to somewhat reasonable step sequences. Of course you could also just use able to run all that gear off of something like Ableton, I suppose you'd just need some CV-Midi converter for the 909. Running old gear off of Ableton actually gives great results, at my friend's house we were messing with his Memory Moog that way and it sounded really great. He had been using a tracker before I got him hooked on Ableton! haha ~David On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) string synth sound
As an Ableton W*nker I've noticed something curious about 909s -- if a track uses a 909 as the master clock, the tempo is overall very steady, but even and odd measures are slightly different lengths. Makes warping tracks a little weird. Both the 808 and 909 tend to drift a little when old, it's a nice feature and keeps DJ's on their toes :) Both our machines go +/- 2bpm depending on how long they've been on, it can be fixed in software but we kinda like it. m
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Hey Mike, Welcome back! It sounds like you have it spotted. I had just typed all of this up before I saw your reply, but it sounds like people might be interested in getting this type of sound more generally so I'll post it anyway. It could come from any Pitch Envelope Generator (in Yamaha terminology), which basically modifies pitch over time, like an air raid siren. It's really fun to play with these. It's one of my favourite things about the AN1x. In terms of it being a cheap synth, it looks like the Casio CZ had similar functionality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_CZ_synthesizers On some synths with sophisticated LFO routing you could probably do the same thing with as well if you slowly modified pitch, but it would be less straight-forward to get these results - like you might need to do that on one oscillator and have a similar oscillator that fades in without the LFO at the sustained pitch. There's probably 17 other ways you could do it with other implementations as well. Tristan On 13 July 2010 05:39, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
Re: (313) string synth sound
Mike Taylor wrote: If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly You can't forget those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one isn't using a computer. He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :) I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one of the early EP's is just mainly a 909, Microwave I and a Delay. It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote existed, so I don't have a backup of that page... :( Cheers, Dave
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Not to pick knits, but the QX21 IS a sequencer. m On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote: Mike Taylor wrote: If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly You can't forget those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one isn't using a computer. He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :) I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one of the early EP's is just mainly a 909, Microwave I and a Delay. It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote existed, so I don't have a backup of that page... :( Cheers, Dave
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Okay, i wanna see some hands here.. Who knew it was time-travel day today but failed to inform me about it? A discussion about Mills on 313 AND post from Bill van Loo and Mike Taylor on 313? What is next, Dave Walker and Ed Luna in a discussion about Drexciya? Anyway, i heard a similar Mills setup from someone close to Jeff (and i mean the things Mike mentioned). I cant remember it exactly. Good to see you all on 313 again! On 13 jul 2010, at 19:31, Mike Taylor wrote: Not to pick knits, but the QX21 IS a sequencer. m On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote: Mike Taylor wrote: If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly You can't forget those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one isn't using a computer. He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :) I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one of the early EP's is just mainly a 909, Microwave I and a Delay. It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote existed, so I don't have a backup of that page... :( Cheers, Dave
Re: (313) string synth sound
in the same vein but not: anyone given thought to the sound being off of a wavestation? I know the ws is used in quite a few Detroit tracks, maybe this is a patch on it. I'll check my ws vst later. -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:31:58 am To: DB d...@renegaderhythms.com Cc: 313@hyperreal.org From: Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound Not to pick knits, but the QX21 IS a sequencer. m On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote: Mike Taylor wrote: If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly You can't forget those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one isn't using a computer. He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :) I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one of the early EP's is just mainly a 909, Microwave I and a Delay. It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote existed, so I don't have a backup of that page... :( Cheers, Dave
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It's also a sound module you can sequence externally. And a car wax and dessert topping. That last part I made up. On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: Not to pick knits, but the QX21 IS a sequencer. m On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote: Mike Taylor wrote: If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). Where's the MAQ and Microwave I and the Korg MonoPoly You can't forget those important sound sources, plus one needs a sequencer if one isn't using a computer. He wasn't playing all the sounds by hand :) I know somewhere on his website for a while, he indicated that one of the early EP's is just mainly a 909, Microwave I and a Delay. It's not listed on their anymore and that was before Evernote existed, so I don't have a backup of that page... :( Cheers, Dave
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 14:15, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: It's also a sound module you can sequence externally. And a car wax and dessert topping. That last part I made up. Well, I'll just eat all these WaveStation-sprinkle cupcakes myself -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
RE: (313) string synth sound
The Mills track is quite beautiful. It's very easy to forget that his stuff comes in many different flavours. I wish he'd release more ambient(ish) records actually. I find his kind of ambient refreshing and never boring, unlike that of some producers who make mostly or solely that kind of material. Not sure why that should be, but it's my feeling Ken -Original Message- From: Daniel Troberg [mailto:erasemu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:14 PM To: Three-One-Three Subject: (313) string synth sound what In g*ds name is that patch ?? the pitching string sound, , or did neil just borrow jeffs synth ?? its eeerie ,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWhISpc4Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJPQ3xsKWI
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I think that I'd classify that as an analog string sound, which I'd try to approximate using pulse width modification of a square wave, then run it into a chorus + reverb. I don't think that Neil was borrowing Jeff's synth. They both used similar sounds and then did similar (but not the same) sort of pitch bending action. It's a case of form following function. They both needed a string synth sound, and both being Detroit dudes, they both gravitated towards the same kind of sound. Now that I've done my forensic analysis I must say that I really love both pieces, and when I listen to them, normally, I'm not trying to recreate their patches on my Jupiter 6 ;-) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: what In g*ds name is that patch ?? the pitching string sound, , or did neil just borrow jeffs synth ?? its eeerie ,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWhISpc4Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJPQ3xsKWI
Re: (313) string synth sound
well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm. On 12 jul 2010, at 16.10, kent williams wrote: I think that I'd classify that as an analog string sound, which I'd try to approximate using pulse width modification of a square wave, then run it into a chorus + reverb. I don't think that Neil was borrowing Jeff's synth. They both used similar sounds and then did similar (but not the same) sort of pitch bending action. It's a case of form following function. They both needed a string synth sound, and both being Detroit dudes, they both gravitated towards the same kind of sound. Now that I've done my forensic analysis I must say that I really love both pieces, and when I listen to them, normally, I'm not trying to recreate their patches on my Jupiter 6 ;-) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: what In g*ds name is that patch ?? the pitching string sound, , or did neil just borrow jeffs synth ?? its eeerie ,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWhISpc4Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJPQ3xsKWI
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I could make sounds like that on a Roland Juno 60. Too much is made about how 'cheap' the gear they use in Detroit is, but the fact is it's all gear that was cheap until the early 90s and expensive ever since. And yeah that weird pitch bend at the start of each note is the same on both and is probably a single source sampled by both people. Though Mills puts vibrato on it. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm. On 12 jul 2010, at 16.10, kent williams wrote: I think that I'd classify that as an analog string sound, which I'd try to approximate using pulse width modification of a square wave, then run it into a chorus + reverb. I don't think that Neil was borrowing Jeff's synth. They both used similar sounds and then did similar (but not the same) sort of pitch bending action. It's a case of form following function. They both needed a string synth sound, and both being Detroit dudes, they both gravitated towards the same kind of sound. Now that I've done my forensic analysis I must say that I really love both pieces, and when I listen to them, normally, I'm not trying to recreate their patches on my Jupiter 6 ;-) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: what In g*ds name is that patch ?? the pitching string sound, , or did neil just borrow jeffs synth ?? its eeerie ,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWhISpc4Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJPQ3xsKWI
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well some got expensive, other stayed cheap. jeff definitely gets down with the modwheel. but Im telling you, its the same patch the snakes, the snakes! On 12 jul 2010, at 20.58, kent williams wrote: I could make sounds like that on a Roland Juno 60. Too much is made about how 'cheap' the gear they use in Detroit is, but the fact is it's all gear that was cheap until the early 90s and expensive ever since. And yeah that weird pitch bend at the start of each note is the same on both and is probably a single source sampled by both people. Though Mills puts vibrato on it. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm. On 12 jul 2010, at 16.10, kent williams wrote: I think that I'd classify that as an analog string sound, which I'd try to approximate using pulse width modification of a square wave, then run it into a chorus + reverb. I don't think that Neil was borrowing Jeff's synth. They both used similar sounds and then did similar (but not the same) sort of pitch bending action. It's a case of form following function. They both needed a string synth sound, and both being Detroit dudes, they both gravitated towards the same kind of sound. Now that I've done my forensic analysis I must say that I really love both pieces, and when I listen to them, normally, I'm not trying to recreate their patches on my Jupiter 6 ;-) On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com wrote: what In g*ds name is that patch ?? the pitching string sound, , or did neil just borrow jeffs synth ?? its eeerie ,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4nWhISpc4Efeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJPQ3xsKWI
Re: (313) string synth sound
The sound comes from a Korg rompler, likely an X5d. If you want to do the 90's Mills thing, the formula is: 909, Yamaha QX21, Akai S3000, EMU Carnival, Yamaha DX100, Yamaha TG33, and an early 90's Korg rompler(doesn't matter which one). I have heard that Neil Oliverra did Sountrack313 on an X5d, and that's it. The gear used on old Mills records and Soundtrack313 is stupid cheap these days, the hard part is being disciplined enough to work though the interfaces. It is a hell of a lot easier to move some colored blocks around in a DAW. mt -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Troberg erasemu...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:32:01 +0200 Subject: Re: (313) string synth sound well, I still think that the synth patch on these both youtube clips comes from the exact same source. that is, a preset or something, on the stuff they used. and no, its no modular synth. no its not beefy analog. because most of the stuff used were on the cheap side. or gotten cheap. . Im thinking this would be some kind of sampler patch or something in that direction. ,, surely someone has dug into this before. listen to the clips again, name that synth ,, thats what controlling my brain atm.
