Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:36:52 -0400 erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: abaco was confused about how relative urls work. i've attached the file i'm using (which has some extra differences), and here's the diff Thanks! I'll push that to 9front if it works with their webfs.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:20:41 -0400 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Thu May 17 17:44:51 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. +1 better than angry french motorists. I can handle angry French motorists better than I can handle how Linux these days.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
abaco was confused about how relative urls work. i've attached the file i'm using (which has some extra differences), and here's the diff Thanks! I'll push that to 9front if it works with their webfs. I applied the patch to my 9front abaco source and it worked as advertised (as in clicking on Google search result links now work). -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Fri May 18 12:30:56 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: tested, commited. theres a little thing thats different with 9front webfs. if the server doesnt return a Content-Type response header, the contenttype attribute file will not appear in the connection directory. (this is true for all response headers). the web is not plan 9 compliant. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Greetings. On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:24:02 +0200 erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Fri May 18 12:30:56 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: the web is not plan 9 compliant. That's really offtopic. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's Elysian field. Maybe something dual-screen with Chrome on the next monitor over. I know someone out there has a setup they've nestled into and are slightly cringing at the thought of his or her next machine or OS transition because right now life is good. -Jack
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Plan 9 doesn't run native on my last two notebooks (not handling wireless, anyway), so I've been using an older version of 9vx, which has been stable for years. I run it full screen, on Ubuntu, mainly alternating between that and Chrome. I'm tempted to try to get native working again for me, because I'm fed up with Linux rolling back its ext4 file system (by losing the journal when something goes wrong, which it has done, silently). On the rare occasions when I use Mac or Windows I use drawterm. I run Plan 9 native on several server sets, though, and several ARMs.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On 5/17/2012 10:41 AM, Jack Johnson wrote: Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's Elysian field. Maybe something dual-screen with Chrome on the next monitor over. I know someone out there has a setup they've nestled into and are slightly cringing at the thought of his or her next machine or OS transition because right now life is good. -Jack All the things you describe here sound like a user interface hellscape. Especially the macbook air and plan9port. I'd rather use a slide rule and some cocktail napkins. I drawterm to a few native/qemu-kvm servers and I've got a limping netbook that runs native. More native to come. I stay away from non-native plan9 tools. They end up being frustrating to me. My slackware installations already have unix tools. Sometimes simplicity is better found using what you've got, rather than shoehorning some better solution into some unwilling host. -jack
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Oh. other jack's email reminds me: I have used qemu/kvm to debug x86 kernels before I run them native. It's easier for instance than trying to run two machines on an aircraft, though you can run two on a train. I have got plan9ports on the notebooks, to provide some sane commands when I have to run outside 9vx. /bin/rc is one, but most of the GNU/Linux ones do bizarre things (using the LANG= locale inappropriately, for a start).
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, 17 May 2012 07:41:28 -0800 Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's Elysian field. Maybe something dual-screen with Chrome on the next monitor over. I know someone out there has a setup they've nestled into and are slightly cringing at the thought of his or her next machine or OS transition because right now life is good. Heheh... I wouldn't say no to a MacBook Air but between 9vx and drawterm, p9p is fast fading from my radar. I only use 9term any more and that for the occasional locate or find command, or for git. Sometimes I also sudo ed, but no more often than I sudo vi in an xterm. I once found p9p acme run as root to be a great idea for configuring a Linux system but there was a bug with win which reams the Linux pty subsystem. I should roleplay less and get more involved with bug-fixing and code, but I keep saying that. Also what Jack said. Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. I love running one acme (with plumber) per task, which afaik you can't do in p9p. It's not quite the perfection of convenience, but anything I think of to improve on it brings other inconveniences mostly related to window management. The result is when I want to edit something non-root in Linux I typically do so from drawterm. If it's root-owned and too large a change for ed, I either sudo cp or (more usually) temporarily chown it. As for usability, drawterm is a little buggy. It doesn't really like me running a web browser and sometimes gets in a state where what's visible doesn't correspond to what menus are appearing, but it hasn't done that since I started shutting down the Linux box (and thus drawterm) every day. Come to think of it 9vx actually gave me fewer problems, but I never really tried running a web browser in it. Nothing else in Plan 9 allocates such a large number of images as mothra and abaco, afaik. I use abaco all the time for my roleplaying, btw, I like it. It handles Simple Machines forums quite nicely, and most of my comics too.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I use abaco all the time for my roleplaying, btw, I like it. It handles Simple Machines forums quite nicely, and most of my comics too. I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. I haven't had any time to look into this problem yet.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. Seconded. Google searching is a pain using abaco. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
abaco was confused about how relative urls work.
i've attached the file i'm using (which has some
extra differences), and here's the diff
- erik
---
/n/dump/2012/0220/sys/src/cmd/abaco/urls.c:173,237 - urls.c:173,246
void
urlcanon(Rune *name)
{
- Rune *s, *t, *tail;
+ Rune *s, *e, *tail, tailr;
Rune **comp, **p, **q;
- int rooted;
+ int n;
- name = runestrchr(name, L'/')+2;
- rooted = name[0]==L'/';
+ name = runestrstr(name, L://);
+ if(name == nil)
+ return;
+ name = runestrchr(name+3, '/');
+ if(name == nil)
+ return;
+ if(*name == L'/')
+ name++;
+
+ n = 0;
+ for(e = name; *e != 0; e++)
+ if(*e == L'/')
+ n++;
+ comp = emalloc((n+2)*sizeof *comp);
+
/*
* Break the name into a list of components
*/
- comp = emalloc(runestrlen(name)*sizeof *comp);
p = comp;
*p++ = name;
tail = nil;
- for(s = name;; s++){
+ tailr = L'☺'; /* silence compiler */
+ for(s = name; *s != 0; s++){
if(*s == '?' || *s == '#'){
- tail = s;
+ tail = s+1;
+ tailr = *s;
+ *s = 0;
break;
}
else if(*s == L'/'){
*p++ = s+1;
- *s = '\0';
+ *s = 0;
}
- else if(*s=='\0')
- break;
}
- *p=0;
+
/*
* go through the component list, deleting components that are empty
(except
-* the last component) or ., and any .. and its non-.. predecessor.
+* the last component) or ., and any .. and its predecessor.
*/
- p=q=comp;
- while(*p){
- if(runestrcmp(*p, L)==0 p[1]!=0
- || runestrcmp(*p, L.)==0)
- p++;
- else if(runestrcmp(*p, L..)==0 q!=comp
runestrcmp(q[-1], L..)!=0){
- --q;
- p++;
- }
+ for(p = q = comp; *p != nil; p++){
+ if(runestrcmp(*p, L) == 0 p[1] != nil
+ || runestrcmp(*p, L.) == 0)
+ continue;
+ else if(qcomp runestrcmp(*p, L..) == 0
runestrcmp(q[-1], L..) != 0)
+ q--;
else
- *q++=*p++;
+ *q++ = *p;
}
- *q = 0;
+ *q = nil;
+
/*
* rebuild the path name
*/
s = name;
- if(rooted)
- *s++ = '/';
- for(p = comp; *p; p++){
- t = *p;
- while(*t)
- *s++ = *t++;
- if(p[1] != 0)
- *s++='/';
+ for(p = comp; pq; p++){
+ n = runestrlen(*p);
+ memmove(s, *p, sizeof(Rune)*n);
+ s += n;
+ if(p[1] != nil)
+ *s++ = '/';
}
+ *s = 0;
if(tail)
- memmove(s, tail, runestrlen(tail));
- *s = '\0';
+ runeseprint(s, e+1, %C%S, tailr, tail);
free(comp);
}#include u.h
#include libc.h
#include draw.h
#include memdraw.h
#include thread.h
#include cursor.h
#include mouse.h
#include keyboard.h
#include frame.h
#include plumb.h
#include html.h
#include dat.h
#include fns.h
Url *
urlalloc(Runestr *src, Runestr *post, int m)
{
Url *u;
u = emalloc(sizeof(Url));
copyrunestr(u-src, src);
if(m==HPost)
copyrunestr(u-post, post);
u-method = m;
incref(u);
return u;
}
void
urlfree(Url *u)
{
if(u==nil || decref(u) 0)
return;
closerunestr(u-src);
closerunestr(u-act);
closerunestr(u-post);
closerunestr(u-ctype);
free(u);
}
Url *
urldup(Url *a)
{
Url *b;
b = emalloc(sizeof(Url));
b-method = a-method;
copyrunestr(b-src, a-src);
copyrunestr(b-act, a-act);
copyrunestr(b-post, a-post);
copyrunestr(b-ctype, a-ctype);
return b;
}
static Runestr
getattr(int conn, char *s)
{
char buf[BUFSIZE];
int fd, n;
snprint(buf, sizeof buf, %s/%d/%s, webmountpt, conn, s);
fd = open(buf, OREAD);
if(fd 0)
error(can't open attr file);
n = read(fd, buf, sizeof(buf)-1);
if(n 0)
error(can't read);
close(fd);
buf[n] = '\0';
return (Runestr){runesmprint(%s, buf), n};
}
// tired of typing http://, tired of going to google first.
void
justgoogleit(Url *u)
{
Rune *s;
s = ucvt(u-src.r+2);
free(u-src.r);
u-src.r =
runesmprint(http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8q=%S;,
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On 5/17/2012 12:31 PM, Justin Bedo wrote: I use abaco all the time for my roleplaying, btw, I like it. It handles Simple Machines forums quite nicely, and most of my comics too. I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. I haven't had any time to look into this problem yet. This works in mothra with webfs. I like mothra much better than abaco. It is included in 9front, or alternatively grab it from the 9front google code page. It uses 9front's webfs as well. -Jack
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
This works in mothra with webfs. I like mothra much better than abaco. It is included in 9front, or alternatively grab it from the 9front google code page. It uses 9front's webfs as well. Yes I tried this, and it worked perfectly fine. However I prefer the abaco interface. Is it possible to copy/paste in mothra?
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Is it possible to copy/paste in mothra? No. But it does have moth mode. -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. +1
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu May 17 17:44:51 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. +1 better than angry french motorists. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Vincent Zhao zhaoym1...@gmail.com wrote: I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? I have a working Thinkpad T23 with 1400x1050 video, for years. The only trouble is that it needs a small program to restore video after the lid was closed. Works great for me, and is not expensive today. Best regards, ++pac
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
ok, i think i see now what happens. none of the usb controllers have a PCMPintr entry in the bus. so what happens is that mpintrenable() calls mpintrenablex() with the dummy ISA tbdf again assigning them irq 10 and 11. this succeeds with the first controller tried but fails with following controllers sharing the same interrupt because the interrupt was configured edge triggered for isa. the ELCR register is 0xC00 so irq 10 and 11 should be level triggered no? -- cinap
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
the multiple botch happens only when it tries isa tbdf and can probably ignored? i wonder why the first mpintrenablex() with the pci tbdf would fail. the only case where it would fail that way without leaving some other kernel print behind is when there is no matching pin (aintr-irq) entry in the bus-aintr list no? that list is build from mp table. maybe should figure out the pin of these pci devices? i'd dump the irq list next. there's code in 9atom to present /dev/mpirq. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
will do. btw, that cannot find southbridge is there forever. just googled for PCI.255.31.7 or 255:31:7 and you get tons of results. maybe that entry in the $PIR is just bogus/dummy? -- cinap
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Thx. 2012/5/10 Justin Bedő c...@cua0.org I'm running it fine on an x201. On 10 May 2012 04:04, yang.zhao hckjs...@gmail.com wrote: Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? Thanks. -- K.I.S.S.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. I actually used the docking station with a cdrom drive to install. I also needed the 9load from 9atom to get it to boot, though I'm otherwise running a stock plan 9 from bell labs. I tried to usb boot out of curiosity, but it crashed during boot and as I had a working cdrom drive I didn't put much effort into solving the problem. I also might have been a little enthusiastic when I said fine. The MP tables are broken so you can't use the second core. Other than that the video works great as does ethernet. There are installation instructions on the plan 9 website. Justin
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia ah. I confused mini pci express with expresscard.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On one of my Atoms I found that actually the problem (on that hardware) was that Plan 9's memory probing was zapping one of the bytes in its tables, preventing the second CPU from being seen. (PCMP changed to 0xCC CMP). A recent change to pc/memory.c might have fixed that. On 10 May 2012 09:53, Justin Bedo c...@cua0.org wrote: The MP tables are broken so you can't use the second core.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Installing Plan9 without a CD reader or a PXE boot. Abstract The Plan9 distribution is available for installation by the mean of a bootable ISO image supposed to be burnt on a CDROM. But this image has indeed all the pieces needed to realize an installation, without a CD reader, or without a PXE boot. What follows is an illustration of how to do without. 0. What was first? The egg or the goose? Well: the egg, that is some BIOS. In the following, the names will match the pc world; but, more or less, there is a mapping between pc idiosynchrasies and something else idiosynchrasies. When a pc starts, it first initializes its hardware before giving the hand to an user provided program---generally an operating system. But to be able to hand over to something else, it has to know the rendez-vous point. This BIOS entry point is a 512 bytes sector, that is a program, and that is (for disks and like) the very first sector of the device. On disks, it is called: MBR. It is a program with a signature (for basic verification that it is indeed the expected program), and some data embedded: a partition table. To be able to boot Plan9, the information has to be in the MBR, this means that the first sector must be able to hand over to another program (generally one sector size too) customized for Plan9. Since the partition table has 4 entries, for things to work, the MBR program must be able to read the partition table and load the very first sector of one partition, whether because it is flagged: ACTIVE, or because the MBR allows to select it. The only Plan9 peculiar thing in the MBR is not the program by itself (the MBR provided by other systems will generally do the job), but a Plan9 entry in the partition table. Plan9 has to have a _primary_ partition (and not a secondary extended ---indirect---one that the bootstrapping blocks will not be able to access). Recommended reading: 9load(8). 1. Defining a Plan9 partition (MBR partition table). As the name: partition, shall suggest, the 1 to 4 (max) primary partitions shall realize a partition of the disk: the reunion covers the whole disk; and there is no overlapping. One supplementary property: a partition is declared by its type (magic number proper to the system), its beginning and its size. This means that a partition defines a continuous slice of sectors. Since this partition table is what, due to hardware bootstrapping design, is shared between different systems (multi-boot), the partition shall declare what is each system realm in terms of space used on the disk; and let others realms alone. (In what follows, since we will use an already installed system to prepare for Plan9, this will be relaxed---but as an exception and with caution.) So the first step is to declare enough space for a Plan9 realm (for what follows, since we do not reduce the size of the installed data and declare 100Mb for the particular 9fat, say: 512Mb at least---this can be reduced once you know how it works, or if you install only a terminal). So declare a primary partition as a Plan9 : 0x39 type, with (here) at least 512Mb. You can do that with whatever fdisk(8) is available on the other system. But do repeat: the Plan9 partition is a partition, that is do not have any intersection (of data) with others. Plan9 can write whatever it wants in its realm without risking overwriting others data. Recommended reading: prep(8). 2. The Plan9 partition realm: its organization. Fdisk(8) has declared a Plan9 realm. But this realm is, as far as fdisk(8) and the MBR are concerned, just a continuous area of disks blocks. There is no organization of the blocks; no data in the blocks. It is a virgin (read: random) area. So even if the Plan9 partition is declared active (or if the boot process allows to select it), this will not magically work, since the very first sector of the Plan9 partition is, at this moment, random bytes, not a dedicated sector able to bootstrap Plan9. We need so to organize a part of the realm the way Plan9 and the Plan9 bootstrapping process expects it to be. The conditions that have to be met are the following: 1) The very beginning of the Plan9 partition coincides with the beginning of a FAT12 or FAT16 subpartition. 2) This FAT has 2 reserved sectors: the first one is the classical FAT sector; the second one will hold the informations about the Plan9 partition subpartionning. 3) The very first sector (of the Plan9 partition and so of the FAT too) has a Plan9 PBS---a Plan9 bootstrapping block. 4) The volid field of the FAT first block is set with the address of the beginning of the root dir. 5) The program 9load exists in the FAT and is the very first entry in the root dir. 6) [Not necessary for bootstrapping] So that 5) remains true, the 9load file must be tagged SYSTEM, so that it is not moved when updating.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
6) [Not necessary for bootstrapping] So that 5) remains true, the 9load file must be tagged SYSTEM, so that it is not moved when updating. i originally read this incorrectly as from the prespective of dossrv(4); in that case one would say ... from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is ok. 3) The PBS [on an iso] has to bootstrap a diskette, so is not an LBA aware one. On a disk, the Plan9 partition can be a far, far, far, far realm... thanks to geoff's recent work, this isn't true anymore. see mk9660(8) and the -B flag. i have no idea what *bsd tools would want to support this. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu May 10 05:06:15 EDT 2012, charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On one of my Atoms I found that actually the problem (on that hardware) was that Plan 9's memory probing was zapping one of the bytes in its tables, preventing the second CPU from being seen. (PCMP changed to 0xCC CMP). A recent change to pc/memory.c might have fixed that. why wasn't your machine using the e820 map? it's sort of dangerous to probe memory these days with all the magic regions. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:47:49AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: 6) [Not necessary for bootstrapping] So that 5) remains true, the 9load file must be tagged SYSTEM, so that it is not moved when updating. i originally read this incorrectly as from the prespective of dossrv(4); in that case one would say ... from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is ok. I'm not a DOS FS specialist but I would be cautious about this because there may be some binaries that expect not only a file to be a contiguous series of blocks, but to start precisely _here_. 3) The PBS [on an iso] has to bootstrap a diskette, so is not an LBA aware one. On a disk, the Plan9 partition can be a far, far, far, far realm... thanks to geoff's recent work, this isn't true anymore. see mk9660(8) and the -B flag. i have no idea what *bsd tools would want to support this. Thanks, I will read the manpage and update the document when necessary. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is ok. I'm not a DOS FS specialist but I would be cautious about this because there may be some binaries that expect not only a file to be a contiguous series of blocks, but to start precisely _here_. which binaries would those be? there are only two that i can think of pbs and dossrv. pbs doesn't require that 9load be at a specific offset, or the first entry. see /sys/src/boot/pc/pbs.s dossrv obviously doesn't care. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:20:32AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: from the perspective of dossrv(4), the exclusive use flag tells dossrv to try to keep the program contiguous on disk. moving it around is ok. I'm not a DOS FS specialist but I would be cautious about this because there may be some binaries that expect not only a file to be a contiguous series of blocks, but to start precisely _here_. which binaries would those be? there are only two that i can think of pbs and dossrv. pbs doesn't require that 9load be at a specific offset, or the first entry. see /sys/src/boot/pc/pbs.s dossrv obviously doesn't care. I don't speak about Plan9 utils. Since the document is how to do using another system as a tool, I don't know if all the dos utils outside Plan9 are like this (is there something as a DOS standard?). So I was (I hope) careful to write only things that are true, not only under Plan9, but under any host. And for the binaries, I do not have in mind the Plan9 one, but the example of GRUB: if what they call stage_1.5 is not here (the ability to read a filesystem), the list of blocks to load is embedded in the stage1. If one moves stage2, it is not bootable anymore. So I'm just cautious not to say something that is only true under Plan9 and that the reader could take for granted elsewhere. Since I have in the doc to take into account not only Plan9 in order to find a way to install Plan9 from some OS already there. Thanks, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
torsdagen den 10 maj 2012 12.19.51 skrev tlaro...@polynum.com: Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Installing Plan9 without a CD reader or a PXE boot. Abstract Wow! Thanks. I probably need to look at this. I recently tried (and failed) to boot a plan9 iso via syslinux and memdisk to circumvent the issue with my CD/DVD reader failing at a certain point in the boot proces. If anyone has instructions on making a bootable (install) usb for Plan9 (using syslinux + iso or other method), I would be very interested in this!. Preferrably a method that does not require Plan9 to already be installed... Alternatively, a bootable usb (install) image that can be dd:ed to a usb would also work...
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On 5/10/2012 3:09 AM, yang.zhao wrote: Really? Wonderful.. Is there some docs for install Plan 9(more detail)? x201 doesn't have a CD-ROM.. Thx. -- K.I.S.S. The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a plan9 iso on the disk and go from there. http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/usbboot I'd think you would be able to use a lab's plan9 iso in place of the 9front iso listed in that wiki. I've never tried so don't get crabby if it doesn't work. It will work just fine however, as written. -Jack
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this simplifies building bootable cds. the advantage being that your kernel doesnt need to fit in that floppy image but can be just any file on the iso filesystem. that way theres no need to strip debug symbols and compress the kernel. in 9front, we use the same 9pcf kernel on all boot media. 9load has to die. -- cinap
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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:47:21PM +0200, Jens Staal wrote: If anyone has instructions on making a bootable (install) usb for Plan9 (using syslinux + iso or other method), I would be very interested in this!. Preferrably a method that does not require Plan9 to already be installed... Alternatively, a bootable usb (install) image that can be dd:ed to a usb would also work... I have written done the method I used in my context. But I think you can customize this---the only thing to know is the layout of the Plan9 realm; once this is grasped, there is always a way to do... Cheers, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:14PM +0200, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: 9load has to die. Ideally, yes. I worked, a long time ago, with GRUB and finally realized that adding feature after feature we were just building another kernel... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
If you're using USB, why would you bother with ISO format? On 10 May 2012 13:57, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote: The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a plan9 iso on the disk and go from there.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On 5/10/2012 10:15 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: If you're using USB, why would you bother with ISO format? On 10 May 2012 13:57, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com mailto:j...@0x6a.com wrote: The 9front bootloader can boot from a USB disk. You can then throw a plan9 iso on the disk and go from there. Just pure convenience I suppose. And by that I of course mean lazyness. Chances are I've got an iso laying around and would ensure me a fresh install. Well, I'm done defending that ISO idea. 6 of 1, half dozen of another I suppose. -Jack
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ok. I wanted to check there wasn't some horrible PC-related restriction.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
If anyone has instructions on making a bootable (install) usb for Plan9 (using syslinux + iso or other method), I would be very interested in this!. Preferrably a method that does not require Plan9 to already be installed... Alternatively, a bootable usb (install) image that can be dd:ed to a usb would also work... You can easily make an bootable Plan 9 USB image by reading the instructions in mkusbboot(8) and the /rc/bin/mkusbboot script. For example, this is how I do it: http://www.9legacy.org/9legacy/doc/fossil/usb If you want the installer, you can add the 9pcflop image, by compiling it yourself or extracting it from the bootdisk.img included on the Plan 9 CD image. Then the Fossil file system could be used as an installation source. You can make it from Plan 9 or from Unix, using 9vx, it doesn't matters. I have an old (2012-01-23) Plan 9 USB image, available here: http://www.9legacy.org/download/plan9-usb.img.bz2 I will probably update it soon and I could add the 9pcflop installation image if you wish. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 03:31:14PM +0200, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: 9load has to die. Ideally, yes. I worked, a long time ago, with GRUB and finally realized that adding feature after feature we were just building another kernel... In practice too. In fact, 9front has removed 9load since forever, and we are much better this way.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00d100 irq 11 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00D100 for usbuhci mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00e900 irq 11 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00E900 for usbuhci mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00ea00 irq 11 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00EA00 for usbuhci mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00d700 irq 11 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00D700 for usbehci mpintrenable: multiple botch irq 11, tbdf 500, lo 0068, n 0068 mpintrenable: out of choices eisa -1 isa 22 tbdf 0xc00ef00 irq 11 intrenable: couldn't enable irq 11, tbdf 0xC00EF00 for usbehci 3063M memory: 148M kernel data, 2915M user, 3540M swap what's going on with this? it looks like the same device is being considered with various tbdfs. - erik
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0.26.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2834 11 4:1861 32 Intel Corporation 0.26.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2835 11 4:1881 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.26.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/283a 11 0:fe226c00 1024 - failed Intel Corporation 81EC1043 (?) ICH8 Enhanced USB2 Enhanced Host Controller 0.29.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2830 10 4:18a1 32 Intel Corporation 0.29.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2831 11 4:18c1 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.29.2: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2832 11 4:18e1 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.29.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/2836 11 0:fe227000 1024 - failed Intel Corporation -- cinap
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On Thu May 10 17:42:46 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: 0.26.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2834 11 4:1861 32 Intel Corporation 0.26.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2835 11 4:1881 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.26.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/283a 11 0:fe226c00 1024 - failed Intel Corporation 81EC1043 (?) ICH8 Enhanced USB2 Enhanced Host Controller 0.29.0: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2830 10 4:18a1 32 Intel Corporation 0.29.1: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2831 11 4:18c1 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.29.2: usb 0c.03.00 8086/2832 11 4:18e1 32 - failed Intel Corporation 0.29.7: usb 0c.03.20 8086/2836 11 0:fe227000 1024 - failed Intel Corporation so the question is, why were they tried as ISA.0.0.0? (that is, 0x0500) or is the output misleading. any chance the pin routing is messing things up? in nix, we wildcard any intel southbridge and apply intel remapping. i noticed this particular board's southbridge wasn't recognized. from what i've seen, usb is always pci and never supports msi. i suspect that the standard precludes edge-triggered interrupts, but i haven't verified this. - erik
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from reading the source, it looks like mpintrenable() just tries isa
if everything else fails:
tbdf = v-tbdf;
if(tbdf != BUSUNKNOWN (vno = mpintrenablex(v, tbdf)) != -1)
return vno;
...
if(mpisabus != -1){
vno = mpintrenablex(v, MKBUS(BusISA, 0, 0, 0));
if(vno != -1)
return vno;
}
print(mpintrenable: out of choices eisa %d isa %d tbdf %#ux irq %d\n,
mpeisabus, mpisabus, v-tbdf, v-irq);
return -1;
the multiple botch happens only when it tries isa tbdf and can probably
ignored?
i wonder why the first mpintrenablex() with the pci tbdf would fail. the
only case where it would fail that way without leaving some other kernel
print behind is when there is no matching pin (aintr-irq) entry in the
bus-aintr list no?
that list is build from mp table. maybe should figure out the pin of these
pci devices?
--
cinap
[9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true?
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW compatibility, etc. One every system I've tried there's always been something that has gone wrong, so I'm hoping that the wisdom of this list will direct me towards and fully working version, even if it's not the most modern technology. Thank you. -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Zhao Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 8:44 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!! I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
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A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too. john On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Burton Samograd burton.samog...@markit.com wrote: Along these lines, is there a recommendation for the best laptop for running plan9? Ie. Native video, working Ethernet/wifi, no hassles with HW compatibility, etc. One every system I've tried there's always been something that has gone wrong, so I'm hoping that the wisdom of this list will direct me towards and fully working version, even if it's not the most modern technology. Thank you. -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Zhao Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 8:44 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!! I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
I have an X61T that works great with 9front. The T61 is also
a good choice (almost identical hardware to the X61T, but with
no tablet and a 14 1280x800 screen). Some caveats:
- There are no known working Mini PCI Express wifi cards
- apm is not functional
Hardware stats on the T61:
% cd '#ec'; for(i in *){echo $i '=' `{cat $i}}
*msi = 1
bootargs = local!/dev/sdE0/fscache
bootfile = 9pccpufi
e820 = 0009d800 0010 bf6b
0001 00013c00
monitor = vesa
mouseport = ps2intellimouse
nvram = /dev/sdE0/nvram
vgasize = 1280x800x32
% cat '#'P/archctl
cpu Xeon5000-series 1995 pge
pge on
coherence mfence
cmpswap cmpswap486
i8253set on
cache default uc
cache 0xc000 1073741824 uc
cache 0x13c00 67108864 uc
cache 0x0 4294967296 wb
cache 0x1 1073741824 wb
cache 0xbf70 1048576 uc
cache 0xbf80 8388608 uc
% cat '#'P/irqalloc
3 0 debugpt
7 0 mathemu
8 0 doublefault
9 0 mathover
14 0 fault386
15 0 unexpected
16 0 matherror
50 18 clock
51 19 lapicerror
63 31 lapicspurious
72 1 kbd
80 11 ether0
88 11 hda
96 6 floppy
104 11 usbuhci
112 10 usbuhci
120 14 sdC (ide)
128 10 sdE (ahci)
% cat '#'P/ioalloc
0f dma
20 21 i8259.0
40 43 i8253
60 60 kbd
61 61 i8253.cntr2c
64 64 kbd
70 71 rtc/nvr
80 8f dma
a0 a1 i8259.1
d0 df dma
1f0 1f7 atacmd
2b0 2df vga
3c0 3da vga
3e0 3e1 i82365.0
3f0 3f5 floppy
3f6 3f6 atactl
3f7 3f7 floppy
fff fff dummy
1860 187f usbuhci
1880 189f usbuhci
18a0 18bf usbuhci
18c0 18df usbuhci
18e0 18ff usbuhci
% cat '#'c/config
# pccpuf - pc cpu server with local disk
dev
root
cons
arch
pnp pci
env
pipe
proc
mnt
srv
shr
dup
rtc
ssl
tls
bridge log
sdp thwack unthwack
cap
kprof
fs
ether netif
ip arp chandial ip ipv6 ipaux iproute netlog nullmedium
pktmedium ptclbsum386 inferno
drawscreen vga vgax
mouse mouse
kbd
vga
sd
audio dma
floppy dma
aoe
uart
usb
link
segdesc
devpccard
devi82365
apm apmjump
ether2000 ether8390
ether2114x pci
ether589etherelnk3
ether79c970 pci
ether8003 ether8390
ether8139 pci
ether8169 pci ethermii
ether82543gcpci
ether82563 pci
ether82557 pci
ether83815 pci
etherdp83820pci
etherbcmpci
etherec2t ether8390
etherelnk3 pci
etherga620 pci
etherigbe pci ethermii
ethervgbe pci ethermii
ethervt6102 pci ethermii
ethervt6105mpci ethermii
# etherm10g pci
ethersink
ethersmcdevi82365 cis
etherwavelanwavelan devi82365 cis pci
ethermedium
netdevmedium
loopbackmedium
usbuhci
usbohci
usbehci usbehcipc
audiosb16 dma
audioac97 audioac97mix
audiohda
misc
archmp mp apic
mtrr
uarti8250
uartpci pci
sdaoe
sdide pci sdscsi
sd53c8xxpci sdscsi
sdmylex pci sdscsi
sdiahci pci sdscsi led
sdodin pci sdscsi led
sdvirtiopci sdscsi
sdloop
vga3dfx +cur
vgaark2000pv+cur
vgabt485=cur
vgaclgd542x +cur
vgaclgd546x +cur
vgact65545 +cur
vgacyber938x+cur
vgaet4000 +cur
vgageode+cur
vgahiqvideo +cur
vgai81x +cur
vgamach64xx +cur
vgamga2164w +cur
vgamga4xx +cur
vganeomagic +cur
vganvidia +cur
vgargb524 =cur
vgas3 +cur vgasavage
vgat2r4 +cur
vgatvp3020 =cur
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
On 05/09/2012 05:44 PM, Vincent Zhao wrote: I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? Toshiba Portege M300. Everything but wifi works as expected.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Thinkpad T23 is the canonical Plan 9 laptop. Everything I've tried on it works: apm, sound, wifi. The Actiontec 800MIP (branded WaveLAN) wifi card it ships with actually works. Thinkpad T42 is likewise well supported. The wifi card(s) it shipped with did not work for me, but its Mini PCI slot is compatible with the Actiontec 800MIP from the T23. Note: replacing the wifi card requires completely disassembling the laptop. Many screws. Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck. The WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC works, but exhibits abysmal performance. Other WaveLAN PCMCIA cards I've tried have not worked at all. I'm not certain if this owes to incompatibility or faulty hardware. It's also possible that support for the specific PCMCIA controllers in my various laptops is buggy. -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck. not so much anymore. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and using it in an X60? I like the form factor of the X60 plus the better specs, I'm just not sure if it also uses the same Mini PCI slot of the T23. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:29 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!! Thinkpad T23 is the canonical Plan 9 laptop. Everything I've tried on it works: apm, sound, wifi. The Actiontec 800MIP (branded WaveLAN) wifi card it ships with actually works. Thinkpad T42 is likewise well supported. The wifi card(s) it shipped with did not work for me, but its Mini PCI slot is compatible with the Actiontec 800MIP from the T23. Note: replacing the wifi card requires completely disassembling the laptop. Many screws. Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck. The WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC works, but exhibits abysmal performance. Other WaveLAN PCMCIA cards I've tried have not worked at all. I'm not certain if this owes to incompatibility or faulty hardware. It's also possible that support for the specific PCMCIA controllers in my various laptops is buggy. -sl This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
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Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the 800MiP? -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Burton Samograd Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:40 AM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!! What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and using it in an X60? I like the form factor of the X60 plus the better specs, I'm just not sure if it also uses the same Mini PCI slot of the T23. -- Burton Samograd -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of s...@9front.org Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:29 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!! Thinkpad T23 is the canonical Plan 9 laptop. Everything I've tried on it works: apm, sound, wifi. The Actiontec 800MIP (branded WaveLAN) wifi card it ships with actually works. Thinkpad T42 is likewise well supported. The wifi card(s) it shipped with did not work for me, but its Mini PCI slot is compatible with the Actiontec 800MIP from the T23. Note: replacing the wifi card requires completely disassembling the laptop. Many screws. Another option for wifi is PCMCIA, which has the benefit of being available on almost all laptops. However, I've not had great luck. The WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC works, but exhibits abysmal performance. Other WaveLAN PCMCIA cards I've tried have not worked at all. I'm not certain if this owes to incompatibility or faulty hardware. It's also possible that support for the specific PCMCIA controllers in my various laptops is buggy. -sl This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide. This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retention, use or disclosure not expressly authorised by Markit is prohibited. This email is subject to all waivers and other terms at the following link: http://www.markit.com/en/about/legal/email-disclaimer.page Please visit http://www.markit.com/en/about/contact/contact-us.page? for contact information on our offices worldwide.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
What do you think the compatibility of getting an Actiontech 800MiP card and using it in an X60? ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. Unfortunately, the cards are not compatible. You could try to acquire a WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC. -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Also, all I can find on ebay is the 802MiP which looks to be a wifi/modem combo. Any idea if this is compatible with the 800MiP? No idea. -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Another possibility for wifi would be something like the VAP11G wifi bridge dongle. These are small devices that bridge an Ethernet port to wifi. Note: I've never actually used one. -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I remember reading a while back that plan9 didn't support more than 1.7G of
memory. Is this still the case?
-Original Message-
From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
s...@9front.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
I have an X61T that works great with 9front. The T61 is also a good choice
(almost identical hardware to the X61T, but with no tablet and a 14 1280x800
screen). Some caveats:
- There are no known working Mini PCI Express wifi cards
- apm is not functional
Hardware stats on the T61:
% cd '#ec'; for(i in *){echo $i '=' `{cat $i}} *msi = 1 bootargs =
local!/dev/sdE0/fscache bootfile = 9pccpufi
e820 = 0009d800 0010 bf6b
0001 00013c00 monitor = vesa mouseport = ps2intellimouse
nvram = /dev/sdE0/nvram vgasize = 1280x800x32
% cat '#'P/archctl
cpu Xeon5000-series 1995 pge
pge on
coherence mfence
cmpswap cmpswap486
i8253set on
cache default uc
cache 0xc000 1073741824 uc
cache 0x13c00 67108864 uc
cache 0x0 4294967296 wb
cache 0x1 1073741824 wb
cache 0xbf70 1048576 uc
cache 0xbf80 8388608 uc
% cat '#'P/irqalloc
3 0 debugpt
7 0 mathemu
8 0 doublefault
9 0 mathover
14 0 fault386
15 0 unexpected
16 0 matherror
50 18 clock
51 19 lapicerror
63 31 lapicspurious
72 1 kbd
80 11 ether0
88 11 hda
96 6 floppy
104 11 usbuhci
112 10 usbuhci
120 14 sdC (ide)
128 10 sdE (ahci)
% cat '#'P/ioalloc
0f dma
20 21 i8259.0
40 43 i8253
60 60 kbd
61 61 i8253.cntr2c
64 64 kbd
70 71 rtc/nvr
80 8f dma
a0 a1 i8259.1
d0 df dma
1f0 1f7 atacmd
2b0 2df vga
3c0 3da vga
3e0 3e1 i82365.0
3f0 3f5 floppy
3f6 3f6 atactl
3f7 3f7 floppy
fff fff dummy
1860 187f usbuhci
1880 189f usbuhci
18a0 18bf usbuhci
18c0 18df usbuhci
18e0 18ff usbuhci
% cat '#'c/config
# pccpuf - pc cpu server with local disk dev
root
cons
arch
pnp pci
env
pipe
proc
mnt
srv
shr
dup
rtc
ssl
tls
bridge log
sdp thwack unthwack
cap
kprof
fs
ether netif
ip arp chandial ip ipv6 ipaux iproute netlog nullmedium
pktmedium ptclbsum386 inferno
drawscreen vga vgax
mouse mouse
kbd
vga
sd
audio dma
floppy dma
aoe
uart
usb
link
segdesc
devpccard
devi82365
apm apmjump
ether2000 ether8390
ether2114x pci
ether589etherelnk3
ether79c970 pci
ether8003 ether8390
ether8139 pci
ether8169 pci ethermii
ether82543gcpci
ether82563 pci
ether82557 pci
ether83815 pci
etherdp83820pci
etherbcmpci
etherec2t ether8390
etherelnk3 pci
etherga620 pci
etherigbe pci ethermii
ethervgbe pci ethermii
ethervt6102 pci ethermii
ethervt6105mpci ethermii
# etherm10g pci
ethersink
ethersmcdevi82365 cis
etherwavelanwavelan devi82365 cis pci
ethermedium
netdevmedium
loopbackmedium
usbuhci
usbohci
usbehci usbehcipc
audiosb16 dma
audioac97 audioac97mix
audiohda
misc
archmp mp apic
mtrr
uarti8250
uartpci pci
sdaoe
sdide pci sdscsi
sd53c8xxpci sdscsi
sdmylex pci sdscsi
sdiahci pci sdscsi led
sdodin pci sdscsi led
sdvirtiopci sdscsi
sdloop
vga3dfx +cur
vgaark2000pv+cur
vgabt485=cur
vgaclgd542x +cur
vgaclgd546x +cur
vgact65545 +cur
vgacyber938x+cur
vgaet4000 +cur
vgageode+cur
vgahiqvideo +cur
vgai81x +cur
vgamach64xx +cur
vgamga2164w +cur
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
plan 9 supports up to 4g of memory, depending on the size of pci space, and 3.75g per process. - erik
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I have an X61T...
Do you mean an X61s? I see no reference to the X61T on the ThinkWiki.
--
Burton Samograd
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From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
s...@9front.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:57 AM
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
A Thinkpad X60 or X61 works great and is very light, too.
I have an X61T that works great with 9front. The T61 is also a good choice
(almost identical hardware to the X61T, but with no tablet and a 14 1280x800
screen). Some caveats:
- There are no known working Mini PCI Express wifi cards
- apm is not functional
Hardware stats on the T61:
% cd '#ec'; for(i in *){echo $i '=' `{cat $i}} *msi = 1 bootargs =
local!/dev/sdE0/fscache bootfile = 9pccpufi
e820 = 0009d800 0010 bf6b
0001 00013c00 monitor = vesa mouseport = ps2intellimouse
nvram = /dev/sdE0/nvram vgasize = 1280x800x32
% cat '#'P/archctl
cpu Xeon5000-series 1995 pge
pge on
coherence mfence
cmpswap cmpswap486
i8253set on
cache default uc
cache 0xc000 1073741824 uc
cache 0x13c00 67108864 uc
cache 0x0 4294967296 wb
cache 0x1 1073741824 wb
cache 0xbf70 1048576 uc
cache 0xbf80 8388608 uc
% cat '#'P/irqalloc
3 0 debugpt
7 0 mathemu
8 0 doublefault
9 0 mathover
14 0 fault386
15 0 unexpected
16 0 matherror
50 18 clock
51 19 lapicerror
63 31 lapicspurious
72 1 kbd
80 11 ether0
88 11 hda
96 6 floppy
104 11 usbuhci
112 10 usbuhci
120 14 sdC (ide)
128 10 sdE (ahci)
% cat '#'P/ioalloc
0f dma
20 21 i8259.0
40 43 i8253
60 60 kbd
61 61 i8253.cntr2c
64 64 kbd
70 71 rtc/nvr
80 8f dma
a0 a1 i8259.1
d0 df dma
1f0 1f7 atacmd
2b0 2df vga
3c0 3da vga
3e0 3e1 i82365.0
3f0 3f5 floppy
3f6 3f6 atactl
3f7 3f7 floppy
fff fff dummy
1860 187f usbuhci
1880 189f usbuhci
18a0 18bf usbuhci
18c0 18df usbuhci
18e0 18ff usbuhci
% cat '#'c/config
# pccpuf - pc cpu server with local disk dev
root
cons
arch
pnp pci
env
pipe
proc
mnt
srv
shr
dup
rtc
ssl
tls
bridge log
sdp thwack unthwack
cap
kprof
fs
ether netif
ip arp chandial ip ipv6 ipaux iproute netlog nullmedium
pktmedium ptclbsum386 inferno
drawscreen vga vgax
mouse mouse
kbd
vga
sd
audio dma
floppy dma
aoe
uart
usb
link
segdesc
devpccard
devi82365
apm apmjump
ether2000 ether8390
ether2114x pci
ether589etherelnk3
ether79c970 pci
ether8003 ether8390
ether8139 pci
ether8169 pci ethermii
ether82543gcpci
ether82563 pci
ether82557 pci
ether83815 pci
etherdp83820pci
etherbcmpci
etherec2t ether8390
etherelnk3 pci
etherga620 pci
etherigbe pci ethermii
ethervgbe pci ethermii
ethervt6102 pci ethermii
ethervt6105mpci ethermii
# etherm10g pci
ethersink
ethersmcdevi82365 cis
etherwavelanwavelan devi82365 cis pci
ethermedium
netdevmedium
loopbackmedium
usbuhci
usbohci
usbehci usbehcipc
audiosb16 dma
audioac97 audioac97mix
audiohda
misc
archmp mp apic
mtrr
uarti8250
uartpci pci
sdaoe
sdide pci sdscsi
sd53c8xxpci sdscsi
sdmylex pci sdscsi
sdiahci pci sdscsi led
sdodin pci sdscsi led
sdvirtiopci sdscsi
sdloop
vga3dfx +cur
vgaark2000pv+cur
vgabt485=cur
vgaclgd542x +cur
vgaclgd546x +cur
vgact65545 +cur
vgacyber938x+cur
vgaet4000 +cur
vgageode+cur
vgahiqvideo +cur
vgai81x +cur
vgamach64xx +cur
vgamga2164w +cur
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I've got one of those with the 1400x1050 display, it runs Plan 9 well, looks great, and has a fantastic screen. john On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X61_Tablet -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia -sl
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? Thanks. 2012/5/10 s...@9front.org ThinkWiki says the X60 is Mini PCI Express, not Mini PCI. mhm, isn't mini pci express the newer smaller slot? I have an X60 and it has the old large slot which I think is called PCMCIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_PCI#Mini_PCI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pcmcia -sl -- K.I.S.S.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
Can Plan9 be installed on the Thinkpad x201i? Thanks. It works in RubeGoldberg 2.2 but will not autocompile freeway scuzzmonkey merge svn commitshare javahunk. // could not resist, apologies all round.
Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!
I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9, can my dream come true? I'm trying to make it. Though more a programmer's tablet than a laptop. Take care, Tristan
