[AI] Fw: $ 5000 award opportunity from World Bank

2012-10-17 Thread srinivas.karnati

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Cc: Megha 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:56 PM
Subject: Fw: $ 5000 award opportunity from World Bank


Dear colleagues,
Here is good opportunity to win USD 5000 award. 


 
With Kind Regards

J. L. Kaul
Secretary General
All India Confederation of the Blind
Mob: 9810684208
website: http://www.aicb.in/ 


  - Forwarded Message -
  From: Megha me...@cbmsaron.org
  To: aicbde...@yahoo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:57 PM
  Subject: $ 5000 award opportunity from World Bank



  Dear Partner, 

  $5000 Award Opportunity from World Bank’s JKP
  The Job Knowledge Platform seeks to find practical solutions for job creation 
and job opportunities. It aims to:
a.. Share insights and build synergies across different approaches, 
sectors, and disciplines 
b.. Create a community to exchange challenges and solutions 
c.. Inform important policy debates
  The platform his managed by the World Bank in collaboration with partner 
organizations the Economic Research Forum, Fedesarrollo, the International 
Development Research Centre, the IZA the Institute for the Study of Labor, the 
Latin American and Caribbean Economic Association, the McKinsey Global 
Institute, and REALM/AMERU.
  It is presently seeking applications from NGOs, international organizations, 
think tanks, academia, civil society, and other key stakeholders in the jobs 
agenda for the following awards:
  1. Most Promising Approach Award
  2. Most Recommended Award (based on the number and ranking of online user 
reviews)
  3. Best in Addressing Political Economy and Implementation Challenges Award
  Each category will have one winner, to receive an award of $5,000 USD from 
the JKP, through its partner The Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA).
  Winners will be invited and flown in to the awards ceremony in the Fall.
  Submissions can be made online at jobsknowledge.org or email.  To be 
considered for the awards, forms must be submitted by  December 15, 2012.
  (IMPORTANT: Please note that the JKP website continues to show the deadline 
as September 15, 2012 which, according to our sources, will be updated soon to 
December 15, 2012)
  For more information, visit this link.
  Source Link: 
http://www.fundsforngos.org/latest-funds-for-ngos/5000-award-opportunity-world-banks-jkp/#ixzz29RHU4UQb

  Best regards,

  Megha 




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[AI] Ashok Khemka

2012-10-17 Thread Pamnani
Most of you would have yesterday heard of the IAS officer who was transferred 
from his department because he ordered an inquiry against some irregularities 
in land in Haryana. 

Before the moderator pulls me up for off topic posts let me inform you that Mr. 
Ashok Khemka was the Director General of the Social Justice Ministry in 
Haryana. This was one of his 40 postings until date. 
While in the Social Justice Ministry he was bold enough not to allow exemption 
under Section 47(1) of the PWD Act to the Police Department. This was really 
path breaking because it is just presumed that the disabled cannot do police 
work.


He was brave and bold then and now he has really done something for the country.
I am honoured to have met him at the Ministry's consultation on the India 
Country Report on UNCRPD held in January 2012 in Delhi.
  
May his work and tribe grow.
 
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread vivekananda
On 10/16/12, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote:
 Interesting, expect AccessIndia to be a branch office of Disability
 commissioner?
 Harish Kotian.

 - Original Message -
 From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


I thought he's also a member of Access India so I brought it up here.
 - Original Message -
 From: padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 really it is rediculous.  the same should be brought to the notice of
 CCPD Pincha.
 - Original Message -
 From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com
 To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:42 PM
 Subject: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Hello fokes,

 I'm just curious to know how many days/weeks/months usually to get our
 first information after our case has been numbered with Disability
 Commissioner?

 I'm asking this because, I've lodged my banking complaint with them more

 than a month before and I was told that my case has been registered and

 the case number is 30/1102.

 Whenever I'm calling them to know the position of my case, to their
 phone number (011-23386154 Extension 19), an english unknown fellow is
 picking up, telling me something in hindi, and putting down the receiver

 rudely before I'm asking my next question.

 I wish they will place someone kind and english known person in that
 place.

 Regards.

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-- 
Dear Harish Sir, As you might be knowing Chief Commissioner for
Disabilities Sh.P.K.Pincha is also a Visually Impaired Person and I
hope he might be also the member of Access india by reading all these
discussions on this group he may take steps to improve the
administration of CCPD it is 100% true that the Staff of CCPD do not
talk properly with Disabled persons Sh.Pincha CCPD may kindly look
into this matter if my statement is wrong, sorry.  vivek,
Ph.919868954833, New Delhi


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[AI] Invitation for inclusive competitions

2012-10-17 Thread Amit Bhatt
Dear all,

This is to inform you that Anant Gurukul college is going to organize an event 
of various competitions and social gathering for the visually impaired and as 
well as sighted participants in Pathankot, Punjab on 4th November 2012.
This oneday event will be based on integrated and open platform where the 
visually challenged and sighted people would have an opportunity to partake 
altogether in the activities like Debate, GK competition, Music and etc.
The accommodation and food will be taken care by the organizers from the 
evening of 3rd Nov to the morning of 5th Nov 2012.

The registration is free and members willing to be part of this program may get 
in touch with me at the earliest.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt

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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread padmanabham

really? is he a member? our moderater would be able to clarify the matter.
- Original Message - 
From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



I thought he's also a member of Access India so I brought it up here.
- Original Message - 
From: padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


really it is rediculous.  the same should be brought to the notice of 
CCPD Pincha.
- Original Message - 
From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com

To: access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Hello fokes,

I'm just curious to know how many days/weeks/months usually to get our 
first information after our case has been numbered with Disability 
Commissioner?


I'm asking this because, I've lodged my banking complaint with them more 
than a month before and I was told that my case has been registered and 
the case number is 30/1102.


Whenever I'm calling them to know the position of my case, to their 
phone number (011-23386154 Extension 19), an english unknown fellow is 
picking up, telling me something in hindi, and putting down the receiver 
rudely before I'm asking my next question.


I wish they will place someone kind and english known person in that 
place.


Regards.

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[AI] Circular/order on providing training to government employees with disabilities

2012-10-17 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway Helpdesk!

We've been receiving queries on a regular basis where people in government jobs 
express their desire to get some training to improve their efficiency at work. 
Section 38 of the PWD Act asks appropriate Governments and local authorities to 
formulate schemes to ensure employment of PWDs, and such schemes shall also 
provide for training of such employees. We have however not been able to find 
any circular/government order in this regard. The detailed circular of DOPT on 
employment issued in 2005 also doesn't have any such provisions.

If you know any such document of any state/central government, do forward it to 
us on helpd...@eyeway.org.

With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive
Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision loss
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 4, New  Delhi 
- 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Website: www.eyeway.org.

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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
people.

Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

Regards,

Selvi.


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Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

2012-10-17 Thread Jaison Bellarmine
There was one gramaphone at HKCMM School for the Blind Karimpuzha in Kerala 
which worked with the force of an woun spring. When the spring is tightened the 
disc will start to revolve on its tray. A stylus which works as the track 
reader is set in such a way that it moves in the track of the disc. In the 
tracks, there is hights and low places in an anologue style as per the recorded 
sound. So the stylus moves back and forth as the disc revolves.the other end of 
the stylus is attached to a magnet which moves in a solinoid. Since the stylus 
moves acording to the recorded audio frequency an audio frequency signal is 
generated in the solinoid. This signal is coupled to a tiny speaker which 
serves as the driver of a cone loudspeaker. The specially designed cone 
loudspeaker, through its impedence matching, gives sufficient volume to the 
audio output.
Even in this digital era, this invention is a real miracle. When I saw the 
gramaphone for the last time, it could play only for one and a half minute 
because of its weak spring. Experts were not available to repair it.
With regards,
Jaison Bellarmine-Original message-
From: Syed Imran
Sent:  07/10/2012, 12:31  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone


Sorry folks. Just a correction - The inventor of the gramophone is Emile
Berliner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Berliner 

 

Thanks

From: Syed Imran [mailto:syed.f...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2012 12:02
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

 

Hi all

 

A gramophone is An antique record player; the sound of the vibrating needle
is amplified acoustically. It is the first machine to reproduce a recorded
sound with clarity. Has anyone come across a wind-up gramophone which
required no power? If so, please give its physical description.

This is invented by none other than one of the greatest inventor Thomas Alva
Edison. His other inventions included the incandescent electric light and
the microphone and the Kinetoscope (1847-1931).

 

 

In case you are curious to hear a sample sound of how a gramophone worked
those days, here's the link to the Advertising Record of phonographs,
recorded by Len Spencer circa 1906.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Advertising_Record.ogg

 

The recording begins, I am the Edison phonograph ., and explains the novel
benefits of the phonograph from the first person perspective of the machine.
A very early landmark of advertising in modern media, this was played widely
in shops to entice customers.

 

It is an Ogg Vorbis sound file, length 2m 23s, whose bit rate is 81kbps.

 

Thanks

Syed


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Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to government employees with disabilities

2012-10-17 Thread George Abraham
Can't this be an advocacy point?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: 17 October 2012 14:59
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to government employees
with disabilities

Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway Helpdesk!

We've been receiving queries on a regular basis where people in government
jobs express their desire to get some training to improve their efficiency
at work. Section 38 of the PWD Act asks appropriate Governments and local
authorities to formulate schemes to ensure employment of PWDs, and such
schemes shall also provide for training of such employees. We have however
not been able to find any circular/government order in this regard. The
detailed circular of DOPT on employment issued in 2005 also doesn't have
any such provisions.

If you know any such document of any state/central government, do forward
it to us on helpd...@eyeway.org.

With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive
Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision
loss C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 4,
New  Delhi - 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Website: www.eyeway.org.

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Re: [AI] regarding putting details in header footer in any program

2012-10-17 Thread padmanabham

you have to put your school name in header and other details in footer.
- Original Message - 
From: Shreyas N Reddy n.shreyas.re...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: [AI] regarding putting details in header  footer in any program



hi all
I am having problem to put my details, the school name  other details
in either the footer or header
I usually have this problem in word obviously
I request u all

--
in regards
Shreyas Nagaraj Reddy


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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread SELVI RAJAN BABU
whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread akhilesh
Dear SELVI RAJAN,
Saying something is very easy but proving it an another thing.

Dohn't hate Hindi, north Indians, and North India. don't become the
Raj thakare of south india and chennai!!! We north Indians love you
all South Indians!!!

!!!


On 10/17/12, SELVI RAJAN BABU selvi.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] regarding putting details in header footer in any program

2012-10-17 Thread Satguru
To access the Header and Footer, please press Alt+V followed by H. 
Navigating with arrow keys would tell you if you are in header or in footer. 
To return to the main document, just press the same key combination again 
(ALT+V followed by H).

Satguru
___,__.___
Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner 
or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can.

Satguru Rathi.
Mobile: +91-9971231627 / 9871489945
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- Original Message - 
From: padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding putting details in header  footer in any 
program


you have to put your school name in header and other details in footer.
- Original Message - 
From: Shreyas N Reddy n.shreyas.re...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: [AI] regarding putting details in header  footer in any program


 hi all
 I am having problem to put my details, the school name  other details
 in either the footer or header
 I usually have this problem in word obviously
 I request u all

 -- 
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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi
friends we are all citizen of of india not south north east west.

On 10/17/12, SELVI RAJAN BABU selvi.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread George Abraham
Hi Friends,

I think this discussion is getting us no where.

George Abraham 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of akhilesh
Sent: 17 October 2012 16:10
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

Dear SELVI RAJAN,
Saying something is very easy but proving it an another thing.

Dohn't hate Hindi, north Indians, and North India. don't become the Raj
thakare of south india and chennai!!! We north Indians love you all South
Indians!!!

!!!


On 10/17/12, SELVI RAJAN BABU selvi.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to 
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose 
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this 
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and 
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian 
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they 
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you 
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not 
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are 
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder 
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the 
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while 
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to 
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to 
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an 
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a 
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that 
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask 
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this 
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of 
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Kotian, H P
Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise. 

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under moderation 
and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is your imagination as 
I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I am interested in 
collecting this data.

Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into them. 
Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list guidelines, there,  
don't expect leniency.
Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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[AI] Eyeway alerts

2012-10-17 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Hi all,

 Today's Eyeway alerts are:
1. 2 posts for Visually Impaired as Associate Professor in NCERT. Last date 
14November. More at www.eyeway.org/includes/classifieds

2. 1 post for PwD in Multiple Vacancies in Engineers India Ltd. Last date 
21October. Apply Online. More in 13 October Employment News page 23

3. 1 post for Visually .Impaired as Store Assistant in Goa Shipyard Ltd., 
Vasco-da-Gama, Goa. Last date 31October. More in 13 October Employment News 
page 29



With best regards,
Helpdesk team

Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision loss
C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 4, New  Delhi 
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Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to governmentemployees with disabilities

2012-10-17 Thread bhawani shankar verma
right sir, this matter is to be taken with the personnel and training 
department.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to 
governmentemployees with disabilities




Can't this be an advocacy point?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: 17 October 2012 14:59
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to government employees
with disabilities

Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway Helpdesk!

We've been receiving queries on a regular basis where people in government
jobs express their desire to get some training to improve their efficiency
at work. Section 38 of the PWD Act asks appropriate Governments and local
authorities to formulate schemes to ensure employment of PWDs, and such
schemes shall also provide for training of such employees. We have however
not been able to find any circular/government order in this regard. The
detailed circular of DOPT on employment issued in 2005 also doesn't have
any such provisions.

If you know any such document of any state/central government, do forward
it to us on helpd...@eyeway.org.

With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive
Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with vision
loss C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 4,
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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread SELVI RAJAN BABU
i do wonder what do you mean by third party messages? The subject raaj
was asking clarification is with regard to disability. and that's no
way going beyond the list's guidelines. If you moderate that message
by telling it's beyond the list's guidelines, I don't think this is
not the list for discussing disability related issues, then. While
saksham is announcing their RNIB products available for sale, while
helpdesk is announcing the vacancies, what's wrong in asking
clarification about disability commission?

I'm seriously confused with your hidden secrets aka justification of
your decision with regard to this. Are you trying to say that we
people shouldn't ask any clarifications? or, are you against
disability commission? I guess you might've noticed a few others were
also telling that those officials are being rude with them as well. In
such case, why don't we discuss about it here?

I dono whether I'm gona get banned out of this list or whatever, but
I'm straight with my point. Modeerator or whomever it is, that was a
loose talk for sure. asking a list member as is this a branch office
of disability commission? If I was the moderator, I could've seriously
gone for an apologise for that. You're acting like a politicians.
rules are all for the poor but we politicians can do anything in
India. eh?

OK people, if I said something wrong, excuse me. but as per my view,
the thing which was asked by raaj is not at all wrong and the way
modeerator behaved is utterly wrong.

Regards. On 10/17/12, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is your
 imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I am
 interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into them.
 Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list guidelines,
 there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 58, Issue 1778

2012-10-17 Thread naga raj
Hello fokes,

Hope my email could reach the list at least by this time.

With regard to raaj's email about disability commission, I couldn't
find anything wrong with that. And again, I do agree with selvi's
point as moderator should not talk like this in a publick forum. He
should clearly explain what are all to be discussed and what are all
not to be. and, whom are the eligible people to discuss and whom are
all not eligible for discussing.

I have also noticed the partiality and many of my emails are not at
all reaching the list. Dono what's happening at the other end.

If you say discussing about disability commission is wrong, then
please let us know what is right to be discussed here?

Please don't be partial against south Indians.

Regards,

Nagaraj.
Railway announcer,
Madurai junction.
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1. Re: Please share Ebay experience (Ekinath Khedekar)
2. Re: Disability Commissioner's Office (Kotian, H P)
3. Eyeway alerts (Eyeway Helpdesk)
4. Re: Circular/order on providing training to
   governmentemployees with disabilities (bhawani shankar verma)
5. Re: Fw: Dear Beneficiary From IMF Canada, (Shona Man)
6. Please share EBay experience (Singhal, Vivek)
7. Re: Please share Ebay experience (Shona Man)
8. Re: Disability Commissioner's Office (SELVI RAJAN BABU)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:37:13 +0530
 From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Please share Ebay experience
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

 Thank you,

 I have got the dealer who is giving me i4 8 GB for 26.5 grands. Deal!

 Thanks never the less which might help me in future.


 On 10/17/12, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello list members,

 Has anybody of you used Ebay for purchasing anything?

 I found it little unworthy of complete trust as it?s just a marketing
 platform and it does not take responsibility for product or its
 service.

 I am looking to buy iPhone 4 as newer versions do not offer any great
 advantage compared to their premium pricing and iPhone 4 is tested and
 google maps will be there.

 Regards







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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:42:53 +0530
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office
 Message-ID:
   bea8645838d62348ae206f49353e047d50338b5...@rbiexch01.rbi1.rbi.org.in
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is your
 imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I am
 interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into them.
 Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list guidelines,
 there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as 

Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to governmentemployees with disabilities

2012-10-17 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi,

I don't have any circular.  But there is an experience to share.  SBI
in collaboration with Enable India has organised training for its
visually chalenged employees.  The training covered basics of
computers and employability skills as well as using the CBS (core
banking solution) of SBI with Jaws.  I know a few people who were not
all using computers previously, but are able to do it  it at work
place after the training.  The training was conducted in two sessions
of two weeks each.  I know PNB has done something similar in
colloboration with AICB in the past.  But the difference is that while
PNB has sent its employees to AICB, Delhi, SBI invited Enable India
trainers to its own training center.

Usually we search for circulars to enforce something in our favour,
but instances like these prove that sensitisation is still a powerful
tool.   We can quote these examples and convince other employers
including governments.

On 10/17/12, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 right sir, this matter is to be taken with the personnel and training
 department.
 - Original Message -
 From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to
 governmentemployees with disabilities


 Can't this be an advocacy point?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Eyeway Helpdesk
 Sent: 17 October 2012 14:59
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to government
 employees
 with disabilities

 Hi all,

 Greetings from Eyeway Helpdesk!

 We've been receiving queries on a regular basis where people in
 government
 jobs express their desire to get some training to improve their
 efficiency
 at work. Section 38 of the PWD Act asks appropriate Governments and local
 authorities to formulate schemes to ensure employment of PWDs, and such
 schemes shall also provide for training of such employees. We have
 however
 not been able to find any circular/government order in this regard. The
 detailed circular of DOPT on employment issued in 2005 also doesn't have
 any such provisions.

 If you know any such document of any state/central government, do forward
 it to us on helpd...@eyeway.org.

 With best regards,
 Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive
 Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with
 vision
 loss C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 4,
 New  Delhi - 110024. India.
 Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
 Website: www.eyeway.org.

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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Sheik mohammedali
folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south and 
I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends 
periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes beyond, 
it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
- Original Message - 
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise.

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under 
moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is 
your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I 
am interested in collecting this data.


Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into 
them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list 
guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.

Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU

Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
people.

Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

Regards,

Selvi.


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Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

2012-10-17 Thread Syed Imran
So the wind-up gramophone did not need electricity? Did it have a volume
control attached to it?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Jaison Bellarmine
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:27
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

There was one gramaphone at HKCMM School for the Blind Karimpuzha in Kerala
which worked with the force of an woun spring. When the spring is tightened
the disc will start to revolve on its tray. A stylus which works as the
track reader is set in such a way that it moves in the track of the disc. In
the tracks, there is hights and low places in an anologue style as per the
recorded sound. So the stylus moves back and forth as the disc revolves.the
other end of the stylus is attached to a magnet which moves in a solinoid.
Since the stylus moves acording to the recorded audio frequency an audio
frequency signal is generated in the solinoid. This signal is coupled to a
tiny speaker which serves as the driver of a cone loudspeaker. The specially
designed cone loudspeaker, through its impedence matching, gives sufficient
volume to the audio output.
Even in this digital era, this invention is a real miracle. When I saw the
gramaphone for the last time, it could play only for one and a half minute
because of its weak spring. Experts were not available to repair it.
With regards,
Jaison Bellarmine-Original message-
From: Syed Imran
Sent:  07/10/2012, 12:31  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone


Sorry folks. Just a correction - The inventor of the gramophone is Emile
Berliner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Berliner 

 

Thanks

From: Syed Imran [mailto:syed.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 October 2012 12:02
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

 

Hi all

 

A gramophone is An antique record player; the sound of the vibrating needle
is amplified acoustically. It is the first machine to reproduce a recorded
sound with clarity. Has anyone come across a wind-up gramophone which
required no power? If so, please give its physical description.

This is invented by none other than one of the greatest inventor Thomas Alva
Edison. His other inventions included the incandescent electric light and
the microphone and the Kinetoscope (1847-1931).

 

 

In case you are curious to hear a sample sound of how a gramophone worked
those days, here's the link to the Advertising Record of phonographs,
recorded by Len Spencer circa 1906.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Advertising_Record.ogg

 

The recording begins, I am the Edison phonograph ., and explains the novel
benefits of the phonograph from the first person perspective of the machine.
A very early landmark of advertising in modern media, this was played widely
in shops to entice customers.

 

It is an Ogg Vorbis sound file, length 2m 23s, whose bit rate is 81kbps.

 

Thanks

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Re: [AI] Please share Ebay experience

2012-10-17 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi,

I have used ebay too and have not had a problem in terms of item delivery.
However, you may encounter a language barrier if you purchase items from
another country. English works but the seller may not fully understand what
you write so you need to write very clearly.

As for the iPhone 4S, I believe Apple has reduced its price even further so
you may want to go with a local dealer.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Hey Selvi,,
if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
Chennai?

For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
(which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
Is it a publicity stunt?

Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south and

 I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
 periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes beyond,
 it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
 your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I

 am interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
 them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
 guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Online mobile games with talk accessibitily.

2012-10-17 Thread Syed Imran
Try ponds memory train and accessible minesweeper. These will work with
symbian phones.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ketan Kothari
Sent: 17 October 2012 10:38
To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: KB
Subject: Re: [AI] Online mobile games with talk accessibitily.

Dear Surendra,

There are no games to my knowledge that are accessible with talks.
However, with Iphone there are quite a few accessible games that one can
play.  Also, with Android there are a few accessible games.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/17/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  Is there any mobile games wich is online and accessable with talk? It 
 should be free, easy, interesting and full of timepass. Please upload...
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com  Skype.
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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Raaj
publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama for 
publicity.


Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list 
guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the 
guidelines?


As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or 
west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. Even 
if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care 
wherever he is from.


I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My 
only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why the 
moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third 
party discussion?


Kindly clear this illiterate.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


Hey Selvi,,
if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
Chennai?

For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
(which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
Is it a publicity stunt?

Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south 
and


I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes beyond,
it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise.

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I

am interested in collecting this data.

Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
the list. whenever someone's 

Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Here you come now, Raj! This should have been the point of discussion,
whether the topic is within the purview of list’s guideline’s or not?
This could have  lead us to a constructive discussion and various
outcomes enriched by the viewpoints of learned members. But raising  a
question of racism by you or passing a judgement by Selvy about its
intention of being racist comment is completely far-fetched notion.

Racism, according to me is a highly inflammable topic and I can see
that it is being completely misused for labeling moderator’s comment.
Let us open our heart and accept that we are only one, and that is “Indian”!
And here on the list, we are exclusively “Visually Impaired” gathered
for certain objectives! Our moderator is acting here as a guardian and
head of AI family. Asking him to apologize for such a misconceived
perception is really depressing experience.


On 10/17/12, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
 publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama for

 publicity.

 Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list
 guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the
 guidelines?

 As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or
 west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. Even

 if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care
 wherever he is from.

 I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My
 only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why the

 moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third
 party discussion?

 Kindly clear this illiterate.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Hey Selvi,,
 if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
 then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
 of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
 Chennai?

 For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
 scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
 Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
 (which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
 Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
 moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
 thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
 narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
 visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

 You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
 Is it a publicity stunt?

 Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
 appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



 On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south
 and

 I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
 periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes
 beyond,
 it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
 your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor
 I

 am interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
 them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
 guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their 

Re: [AI] Fw: Dear Beneficiary From IMF Canada,

2012-10-17 Thread Rohiet A. Patil
I think our list has been targeted by them. Because, I also got the same 
message from them.


-Original Message- 
From: Shona Man

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Dear Beneficiary From IMF Canada,

never reply to these messages, these are spam which may have contained
viruses too. Just think in this era who is going you give a even a
single panny out for nothing?

On 10/17/12, shaik sazid sazid_sha...@yahoo.co.in wrote:

Hello dear list members,

Yesterday, I received a mail stating that I got 10 million US dollars.
I send a mail asking, did I got the money.  For that they send a mail as
reply.  When I opened that mail automatically my system got restarted. 
Can

you please tell me about this mail as well as why my system got restarted
while I opened that mail.

regards,

sk. sazid

--- On Mon, 15/10/12, jonahadams.sabamail@sabamail.com
jonahadams.sabamail@sabamail.com wrote:


From: jonahadams.sabamail@sabamail.com
jonahadams.sabamail@sabamail.com
Subject: Dear Beneficiary From IMF Canada,
To:
Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 3:06 PM
International Monetary Fund (IMF)
Investigation Bureau, woodycrest inn
3775 BROCK ST  NUNIT 22
WHITBY, ONTARIO L1R 3J3  CANADA

Attn: Beneficiary,

We refer to your Payment Form Grade A approval received
from this Office
on the above subject, We wish to inform you that your
payment file under
reference has been approved for immediate payment to your
nominated bank
account immediately after final endorsement of your Fund
Release Order
Document.

We hereby mandate CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA to effect the
remittance of this
payment US$10,000,500.00 (Ten Million Five Hundred Thousand
United States
Dollars Only) into your nominated bank account. You are
therefore advise
to Contact The Director Head Offshore payment/ Credit and
Telex Department
(CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA ) below :

Contact name: Rev Jonah Adams
Bank name: CENTRAL BANK
Phone: +234-8023896056
Fax: +234 -9-2035649
E-mail: jonahadams...@hotmail.com

KINDLY RE-CONFIRM TO ME THE FOLLOWING:

1)YOUR FULL
NAME.


2)YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS
...


3)YOUR FULL BANKING
DATA...


4)PHONE AND
MOBILE...


5)CERTIFIED BANK DRAFT
...


6)DIRECT WIRE TRANSFER
.

7)AGE AND MARITAL
STATUS

Then contact this paying bank for urgent transfer to your
account without
delay

Contact name: Rev Jonah Adams
Bank name: CENTRAL BANK
Phone: +234-8023896056
Fax: +234 -9-2035649
E-mail: jonahadams...@hotmail.com

AS SOON AS THE ABOVE INFORMATION ARE RECEIVED, YOUR PAYMENT
WILL BE MADE
TO YOU IN A CERTIFIED BANK DRAFT OR DIRECT WIRE TRANSFER TO
YOUR NOMINATED
BANK ACCOUNT

For more directives, Lastly you are warned to disregard
other contact with
other offices or Banks unless as been directed by this
office, We are very
sorry for the plight you have gone through in the past.

Congratulations!
Best Regards
International Monetary Fund (IMF)





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Re: [AI] Fwd: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!

2012-10-17 Thread subbu2...@gmail.com
How  to  download  the  screen  reader  software  please  let  
us  know   thw 
-Original message-
From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent:  17/10/2012, 20:49 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; blindc...@yahoogroups.com; 
keyboardus...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
Subject: [AI] Fwd: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!


-- Forwarded message --
From: Swati Sharma swati.sha...@codefactory.es
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:26:06 +0530
Subject: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!
To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List ma_mail...@codefactory.cat


New version of Nokia Screen Reader

New version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available on the Nokia Store!
Popular and free application now supports more than 40 devices and 29 languages!
Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, October 17th, 2012

The highly popular Nokia Screen Reader application, which was released
late in 2011 for a limited range of devices and languages, has now
been extended to include support for virtually all Nokia Symbian
devices released in the last few years. In addition, it now supports a
much wider range of languages. And the best part for users: it keeps
being a free application!


 We've received fantastic feedback since the launch of Nokia Screen
Reader 10 months ago, explains Eduard Sánchez, CEO at Code Factory.
It's been a great leap forward for affordable accessibility, and
Nokia is to be credited for supporting the project. However, many
users were disappointed that their phone or language was not
supported. With the release of Nokia Screen Reader 1.3, we are
delighted to be able to greatly extend the availability of Nokia
Screen Reader both in terms of devices and supported languages, to
once again break down the barriers of accessibility.


Major features of v1.3:
. Support for a large number of new devices. The full set of supported
devices is now: Nokia 500, 603, 700, 701, 808 PureView, 5320, 5530,
5630, 5730, 6120, 6121, 6210, 6220, 6700 Slide, 6710, 6720, 6790,
C5-00, C5 5MP, C6-00, C6-01, C7, E5, E52, E55, E6-00, E63, E66, E7,
E71, E71x, E72, E73, E75, N78, N79, N8, N85, N86, N96, N97, N97 Mini,
X6 and X7.
. Support for a much wider range of languages: English, Spanish,
French, German, Portuguese, Finnish, Swedish, Italian, Danish, Dutch,
Greek, Hindi, Norwegian, Simplified Chinese, Turkish, Arabic,
Croatian, Lithuanian, Bengali, Bulgarian, Catalan, Hungarian,
Malaysian, Serbian, Slovak, Tagalog, Ukrainian, Vietnamese and
Icelandic. Note that some of these languages do not have a
corresponding Nokia HQ voice, so it is recommended to use the Nokia
standard quality voice for these languages.
. Added the Voice option to the UI, which allows users to choose
between the Nokia HQ and the Nokia (standard quality) voices. Nokia HQ
will still be loaded by default when Nokia Screen Reader is first
installed.
. Support for devices running Symbian Belle Refresh and Symbian Belle
Feature Pack 2 (FP2) firmware.
. Support for latest version of WhatsApp v2.8.14, the world's most
popular mobile messaging application.


To find out more information about Nokia Screen Reader, please read our FAQ:
http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=425


To access the Nokia Screen Reader user manual, please go to:
http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/nsr/Nokia_Screen_Reader_Manual_English.htm


You can download Nokia Screen Reader v1.3 from the Nokia Store (either
on your phone via the Store app or by connecting the phone to a
computer with the Nokia Suite application installed). Search for
Nokia Screen Reader to download and install this new version. The
direct link to Nokia Screen Reader on the Store is
http://store.ovi.com/content/224364. Note that sighted assistance may
be needed to download the application from the Nokia Store. The
installation process however is completely accessible if you leave
Nokia Screen Reader running to guide you through the process.


About Code Factory
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Factory is the global leader committed to the development of products
designed to eliminate barriers to the accessibility of mobile
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products are compatible with the widest range of mainstream mobile
devices running on Symbian, Windows Mobile, BlackBerry and Android
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Re: [AI] Fwd: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!

2012-10-17 Thread subbu2...@gmail.com
How  to  download  the  screen  reader  software  please  let  
us  know   thw 
-Original message-
From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent:  17/10/2012, 20:49 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; blindc...@yahoogroups.com; 
keyboardus...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
Subject: [AI] Fwd: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!


-- Forwarded message --
From: Swati Sharma swati.sha...@codefactory.es
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:26:06 +0530
Subject: [MA] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available!
To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List ma_mail...@codefactory.cat


New version of Nokia Screen Reader

New version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available on the Nokia Store!
Popular and free application now supports more than 40 devices and 29 languages!
Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, October 17th, 2012

The highly popular Nokia Screen Reader application, which was released
late in 2011 for a limited range of devices and languages, has now
been extended to include support for virtually all Nokia Symbian
devices released in the last few years. In addition, it now supports a
much wider range of languages. And the best part for users: it keeps
being a free application!


 We've received fantastic feedback since the launch of Nokia Screen
Reader 10 months ago, explains Eduard Sánchez, CEO at Code Factory.
It's been a great leap forward for affordable accessibility, and
Nokia is to be credited for supporting the project. However, many
users were disappointed that their phone or language was not
supported. With the release of Nokia Screen Reader 1.3, we are
delighted to be able to greatly extend the availability of Nokia
Screen Reader both in terms of devices and supported languages, to
once again break down the barriers of accessibility.


Major features of v1.3:
. Support for a large number of new devices. The full set of supported
devices is now: Nokia 500, 603, 700, 701, 808 PureView, 5320, 5530,
5630, 5730, 6120, 6121, 6210, 6220, 6700 Slide, 6710, 6720, 6790,
C5-00, C5 5MP, C6-00, C6-01, C7, E5, E52, E55, E6-00, E63, E66, E7,
E71, E71x, E72, E73, E75, N78, N79, N8, N85, N86, N96, N97, N97 Mini,
X6 and X7.
. Support for a much wider range of languages: English, Spanish,
French, German, Portuguese, Finnish, Swedish, Italian, Danish, Dutch,
Greek, Hindi, Norwegian, Simplified Chinese, Turkish, Arabic,
Croatian, Lithuanian, Bengali, Bulgarian, Catalan, Hungarian,
Malaysian, Serbian, Slovak, Tagalog, Ukrainian, Vietnamese and
Icelandic. Note that some of these languages do not have a
corresponding Nokia HQ voice, so it is recommended to use the Nokia
standard quality voice for these languages.
. Added the Voice option to the UI, which allows users to choose
between the Nokia HQ and the Nokia (standard quality) voices. Nokia HQ
will still be loaded by default when Nokia Screen Reader is first
installed.
. Support for devices running Symbian Belle Refresh and Symbian Belle
Feature Pack 2 (FP2) firmware.
. Support for latest version of WhatsApp v2.8.14, the world's most
popular mobile messaging application.


To find out more information about Nokia Screen Reader, please read our FAQ:
http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=425


To access the Nokia Screen Reader user manual, please go to:
http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/nsr/Nokia_Screen_Reader_Manual_English.htm


You can download Nokia Screen Reader v1.3 from the Nokia Store (either
on your phone via the Store app or by connecting the phone to a
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[AI] Moderator: Re: Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread harish

All

This thread is closed for all traffic with immediate effect.
I will be constraint to take action for any violations.
Harish Kotian.

- Original Message - 
From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama for
publicity.

Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list
guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the
guidelines?

As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or
west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. Even
if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care
wherever he is from.

I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My
only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why the
moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third
party discussion?

Kindly clear this illiterate.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


Hey Selvi,,
if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
Chennai?

For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
(which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
Is it a publicity stunt?

Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south 
and


I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes beyond,
it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise.

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I

am interested in collecting this data.

Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 

Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Raaj
wow, it seems like you're trying to twist the subject now. Again I'll say 
whether he's a racial or non-racial, whatever he said against me is wrong. 
How come discussing about disability commission is against the list's 
guidelines? How can he ask a question as whether this list is a branch 
office of disability commission?


So if someone's asking a doubt about his or her nokia phone, can we ask 
whether is this a Nokia's customer service centre? Or, if someone's asking a 
doubt about xl or html, can we ask, whether is this a tutorial centre?


My question still remains. what way I went beyond the list's guidelines?

Educate this illiterate, please.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


Here you come now, Raj! This should have been the point of discussion,
whether the topic is within the purview of list’s guideline’s or not?
This could have  lead us to a constructive discussion and various
outcomes enriched by the viewpoints of learned members. But raising  a
question of racism by you or passing a judgement by Selvy about its
intention of being racist comment is completely far-fetched notion.

Racism, according to me is a highly inflammable topic and I can see
that it is being completely misused for labeling moderator’s comment.
Let us open our heart and accept that we are only one, and that is “Indian”!
And here on the list, we are exclusively “Visually Impaired” gathered
for certain objectives! Our moderator is acting here as a guardian and
head of AI family. Asking him to apologize for such a misconceived
perception is really depressing experience.


On 10/17/12, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama 
for


publicity.

Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list
guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the
guidelines?

As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or
west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. 
Even


if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care
wherever he is from.

I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My
only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why 
the


moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third
party discussion?

Kindly clear this illiterate.
- Original Message -
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


Hey Selvi,,
if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
Chennai?

For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
(which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
Is it a publicity stunt?

Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:

folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south
and

I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes
beyond,
it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise.

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor
I

am interested in collecting this data.

Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

2012-10-17 Thread harish

Hi
It was totally a mechanical device, no electronics or electricity in any 
form. No volume control at all.

This too is off  - topic really and lets close it.

Harish Kotian.
 Original Message - 
From: Syed Imran syed.f...@gmail.com

To: jaisonay...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone



So the wind-up gramophone did not need electricity? Did it have a volume
control attached to it?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Jaison Bellarmine
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:27
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

There was one gramaphone at HKCMM School for the Blind Karimpuzha in 
Kerala
which worked with the force of an woun spring. When the spring is 
tightened

the disc will start to revolve on its tray. A stylus which works as the
track reader is set in such a way that it moves in the track of the disc. 
In

the tracks, there is hights and low places in an anologue style as per the
recorded sound. So the stylus moves back and forth as the disc 
revolves.the

other end of the stylus is attached to a magnet which moves in a solinoid.
Since the stylus moves acording to the recorded audio frequency an audio
frequency signal is generated in the solinoid. This signal is coupled to a
tiny speaker which serves as the driver of a cone loudspeaker. The 
specially
designed cone loudspeaker, through its impedence matching, gives 
sufficient

volume to the audio output.
Even in this digital era, this invention is a real miracle. When I saw the
gramaphone for the last time, it could play only for one and a half minute
because of its weak spring. Experts were not available to repair it.
With regards,
Jaison Bellarmine-Original message-
From: Syed Imran
Sent:  07/10/2012, 12:31  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone


Sorry folks. Just a correction - The inventor of the gramophone is Emile
Berliner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Berliner



Thanks

From: Syed Imran [mailto:syed.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 October 2012 12:02
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: A glympse into the working of a Gramophone



Hi all



A gramophone is An antique record player; the sound of the vibrating 
needle

is amplified acoustically. It is the first machine to reproduce a recorded
sound with clarity. Has anyone come across a wind-up gramophone which
required no power? If so, please give its physical description.

This is invented by none other than one of the greatest inventor Thomas 
Alva

Edison. His other inventions included the incandescent electric light and
the microphone and the Kinetoscope (1847-1931).





In case you are curious to hear a sample sound of how a gramophone worked
those days, here's the link to the Advertising Record of phonographs,
recorded by Len Spencer circa 1906.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Advertising_Record.ogg



The recording begins, I am the Edison phonograph ., and explains the 
novel
benefits of the phonograph from the first person perspective of the 
machine.
A very early landmark of advertising in modern media, this was played 
widely

in shops to entice customers.



It is an Ogg Vorbis sound file, length 2m 23s, whose bit rate is 81kbps.



Thanks

Syed


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[AI] Questions regarding blind astrologer, [if any]

2012-10-17 Thread Surendra Salgaonkar)
Dear ones,
1. Do you kno any blind astrologer who practice astrology regularily?
2. If yes how he do so?
3. Is there any software available with talk accessibility?
4. I want to download best quality panchang, can you upload it?  I want to 
study astrology, it is possible for me?
Please reply me, ___ you champions___
Thank you  good luck!
Surendra Salgaonkar
Phones.
:+919867645933
:+912226473918
Emails.
Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
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Link salgaonkarskype



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[AI] List guidelines

2012-10-17 Thread Harish Kotian



Dear Members of AccessIndia



With new members joining all the time, and with a view to promote healthy 
discussion on the list, we shall be sending this guidelines periodically.



Topics permitted:



1 Accessibility



2 Disability



3 Government policy effecting the disabled



4 Developments taking place concerning the disabled



5 Technical support



Not permitted at all



1 cracks, or anything to do with piracy



2 Hate mails or maligning members, other lists, NGO's



3 Seasons greetings / welcome mails



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5 advertisements, it may be clarified, there is a difference between providing 
information and misusing the list to sell wares.



Recommend interactions:



1 Make a meaningful subject line



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3 Write your comments on the top of a mail while continuing a discussion



4 Do not reply when receiving mails in digest form. Put your comments into a 
new mail.



5 Only moderator can prefix moderator: in the subject line. This is to attract 
attention of all members. No comments should be made to this mail.



6 Do check on prior posting, Link for the same is available at the footer of 
each mail.



7 Do respect every member and do not downcast anyone. This would also include 
poor language skills. Should you desire to help fellow members, you may do so 
by private mail and not on the list.



8 Should you have any concern regarding any posting or any decisions of the 
moderator, please write to the moderator and not vitiate the list.



9 Do not drag a point or issue beyond a point. We do not run opinion poll.



10 If there is posting, which is otherwise off-topic but you desire to share it 
with the group, please obtain prior permission from the moderator



11 Finally, be brief and to the point and write only if you have substantial to 
say. You do not have to respond to each mail.



Yours truly



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Re: [AI] Assistance required for clearing timers in Nokia E63

2012-10-17 Thread Timy Sebastian Ettumanoor

Dear sir!!! iam also using the same model that is e63.

sure, it will ask the lock code for clear timers.

the nokia default lock code is, 12345.

press funtion key first,  then press the number.

for example, if  u didn't press funtion key, it will announce, r.

So, each time should press the funtion key and then press the desire number.



- Original Message - 
From: Sameer sala...@aim.com

To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: [AI] Assistance required for clearing timers in Nokia E63




Dear Friends,

When I press the right soft key in the Call Duration list on my Nokia E63, 
one of the options is Clear Timers. When I selected this option, it asks 
for the Lock Code. I have not entered any lock code on my phone  pressing 
the right key (for OK) has no effect.


Kindly advise me on how I can clear the timings in my Nokia E63.

Thanking all in advance for any  all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India

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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread padmanabham

Hello Friends,
in my openion, this is not at all a platform for quarreling on the basis of 
regionalism.
- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Dear SELVI RAJAN,
Saying something is very easy but proving it an another thing.

Dohn't hate Hindi, north Indians, and North India. don't become the
Raj thakare of south india and chennai!!! We north Indians love you
all South Indians!!!

!!!


On 10/17/12, SELVI RAJAN BABU selvi.4...@gmail.com wrote:

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
people.

Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

Regards,

Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread vivekka...@gmail.com

-Original message-
From: Raaj
Sent:  17/10/2012, 9:11  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


wow, it seems like you're trying to twist the subject now. Again I'll say 
whether he's a racial or non-racial, whatever he said against me is wrong. 
How come discussing about disability commission is against the list's 
guidelines? How can he ask a question as whether this list is a branch 
office of disability commission?

So if someone's asking a doubt about his or her nokia phone, can we ask 
whether is this a Nokia's customer service centre? Or, if someone's asking a 
doubt about xl or html, can we ask, whether is this a tutorial centre?

My question still remains. what way I went beyond the list's guidelines?

Educate this illiterate, please.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office
list guidelines itself clearly mentions we can discus government policy and 
disabled commission also comes under government policy which is setup to look 
after disablity problems. 

Here you come now, Raj! This should have been the point of discussion,
whether the topic is within the purview of list’s guideline’s or not?
This could have  lead us to a constructive discussion and various
outcomes enriched by the viewpoints of learned members. But raising  a
question of racism by you or passing a judgement by Selvy about its
intention of being racist comment is completely far-fetched notion.

 Racism, according to me is a highly inflammable topic and I can see
that it is being completely misused for labeling moderator’s comment.
Let us open our heart and accept that we are only one, and that is “Indian”!
And here on the list, we are exclusively “Visually Impaired” gathered
for certain objectives! Our moderator is acting here as a guardian and
head of AI family. Asking him to apologize for such a misconceived
perception is really depressing experience.


On 10/17/12, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
 publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama 
 for

 publicity.

 Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list
 guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the
 guidelines?

 As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or
 west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. 
 Even

 if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care
 wherever he is from.

 I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My
 only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why 
 the

 moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third
 party discussion?

 Kindly clear this illiterate.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Hey Selvi,,
 if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
 then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
 of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
 Chennai?

 For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
 scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
 Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
 (which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
 Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
 moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
 thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
 narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
 visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

 You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
 Is it a publicity stunt?

 Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
 appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



 On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south
 and

 I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
 periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes
 beyond,
 it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south 

Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread vivekka...@gmail.com

-Original message-
From: Raaj
Sent:  17/10/2012, 9:11  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


wow, it seems like you're trying to twist the subject now. Again I'll say 
whether he's a racial or non-racial, whatever he said against me is wrong. 
How come discussing about disability commission is against the list's 
guidelines? How can he ask a question as whether this list is a branch 
office of disability commission?

So if someone's asking a doubt about his or her nokia phone, can we ask 
whether is this a Nokia's customer service centre? Or, if someone's asking a 
doubt about xl or html, can we ask, whether is this a tutorial centre?

My question still remains. what way I went beyond the list's guidelines?

Educate this illiterate, please.
- Original Message - 
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


Here you come now, Raj! This should have been the point of discussion,
whether the topic is within the purview of list’s guideline’s or not?
This could have  lead us to a constructive discussion and various
outcomes enriched by the viewpoints of learned members. But raising  a
question of racism by you or passing a judgement by Selvy about its
intention of being racist comment is completely far-fetched notion.

Racism, according to me is a highly inflammable topic and I can see
that it is being completely misused for labeling moderator’s comment.
Let us open our heart and accept that we are only one, and that is “Indian”!
And here on the list, we are exclusively “Visually Impaired” gathered
for certain objectives! Our moderator is acting here as a guardian and
head of AI family. Asking him to apologize for such a misconceived
perception is really depressing experience.


On 10/17/12, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
 publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a drama 
 for

 publicity.

 Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list
 guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the
 guidelines?

 As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east or
 west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his part. 
 Even

 if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't care
 wherever he is from.

 I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against this? My
 only question is, what way I'm going away from the list guidelines? Why 
 the

 moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a third
 party discussion?

 Kindly clear this illiterate.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Hey Selvi,,
 if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs,
 then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members
 of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from
 Chennai?

 For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was
 scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
 Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian
 (which I know beforehand) and that’s why doing partiality with me?
 Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The
 moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one
 thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the
 narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much
 visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

 You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
 Is it a publicity stunt?

 Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and
 appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



 On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south
 and

 I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator sends
 periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes
 beyond,
 it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
 your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor
 I

 am interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having 

Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread padmanabham
of course but in my openion, there is no wrong with raj for asking quiry 
with regard to disability and there is no necesity to put him in moderation.
- Original Message - 
From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south 
and I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator 
sends periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes 
beyond, it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and 
comment.
- Original Message - 
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office



Selvi
I am afraid this is going too far.
I don't see any reason to appologise.

The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under 
moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is 
your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I 
am interested in collecting this data.


Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into 
them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list 
guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.

Harish Kotian




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU

Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
talks.

We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:

I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
people.

Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your hands.

Regards,

Selvi.


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[AI] New Version of Nokia Screen Reader

2012-10-17 Thread Swati Sinha

New version of Nokia Screen Reader

New version of Nokia Screen Reader is now available on the Nokia Store!
Popular and free application now supports more than 40 devices and 29 
languages!
Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, October 17th, 2012

The highly popular Nokia Screen Reader application, which was released late in 
2011 for a limited range of devices and languages, has now been extended to 
include support for virtually all Nokia Symbian devices released in the last 
few years. In addition, it now supports a much wider range of languages. And 
the best part for users: it keeps being a free application!


 We've received fantastic feedback since the launch of Nokia Screen Reader 10 
months ago, explains Eduard Sánchez, CEO at Code Factory. It's been a great 
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Reader both in terms of devices and supported languages, to once again break 
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Major features of v1.3:
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. Support for a much wider range of languages: English, Spanish, French, 
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corresponding Nokia HQ voice, so it is recommended to use the Nokia standard 
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. Added the Voice option to the UI, which allows users to choose between the 
Nokia HQ and the Nokia (standard quality) voices. Nokia HQ will still be loaded 
by default when Nokia Screen Reader is first installed.
. Support for devices running Symbian Belle Refresh and Symbian Belle Feature 
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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss
 Remember friends,
 we are told by communication experts that our actual words comprise
about only 7% of our total communication. If this is true then there
might be possibilities for some miscommunication here.
 I don't see anything wrong with Raj bring this issue here. At the
same time, we can't expect Mr. Pincha to read all the access India
emails and address our individual concerns.
 Okay folks, whether we are from north or south
lets take a serious oath; East  or West, Access India is the best!!. Thank you.

Sathiya.

 On 10/17/12, padmanabham padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
 of course but in my openion, there is no wrong with raj for asking quiry
 with regard to disability and there is no necesity to put him in
 moderation.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from south
 and I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator
 sends periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread goes
 beyond, it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so think and
 comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this is
 your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of anyone. Nor I

 am interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look into
 them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the list
 guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his loose
 talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as I've noticed, this
 list is being bit relaxed with it's rules to the north indians and
 being very rigid to the south indians. I was told many south indian
 list members' messages are not reaching the list and even after they
 are sending many complaining messages to the moderator. I can give you
 one example, Nagarajan from madurai said that his messages are not
 reaching the list. Likewise, I was told by many as their messages are
 not reaching. but they are getting all the list messages. I wonder
 whether south indian's messages are being filtered?

 On 10/17/12, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 I wonder why regionalism is being needlessly added to the issue.
 Well, to tell the truth, even the moderator himself is south Indian

 I opine he just said about branch office in a lighter vain.

 Is there no space for lighter moments in moderation?


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 I can surely say, This is a retarded and a partial reply given by the
 moderator. A moderator shouldn't be having such a loose talks while
 he's taking in charge of a bigger list, in my opinion.

 I've noticed several spamming emails and even several empty emails to
 the list. whenever someone's asking about it, the moderator use to
 justify it as there are many computer nubies and it could be an
 accident or whatever. But while a south indian is asking about a
 clarification, by mentioning that he's from chennai, he's asking that
 this list is a branch office? Come on? I do feel moderator should ask
 apology for his idiotic comment. Or else, he may be proving that this
 list is being moderated partially to some particular division of
 people.

 Come on! all the south indian people join together and raise your
 hands.

 Regards,

 Selvi.


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Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to governmentemployees with disabilities

2012-10-17 Thread bhawani shankar verma
its right, but, the burocracy of our country don't do anything without 
circular or order. we should obtain a clearcut order from deptt. of 
personnel and training for all disabled employees for all departments. 
specially for blind employees, because locomotor disabled can view regular 
screens and projectors at the training centres. but, for blind employee 
there is no accessibility at all. the order should also contained the 
accesibility matter for blind employees.


- Original Message - 
From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to 
governmentemployees with disabilities




Hi,

I don't have any circular.  But there is an experience to share.  SBI
in collaboration with Enable India has organised training for its
visually chalenged employees.  The training covered basics of
computers and employability skills as well as using the CBS (core
banking solution) of SBI with Jaws.  I know a few people who were not
all using computers previously, but are able to do it  it at work
place after the training.  The training was conducted in two sessions
of two weeks each.  I know PNB has done something similar in
colloboration with AICB in the past.  But the difference is that while
PNB has sent its employees to AICB, Delhi, SBI invited Enable India
trainers to its own training center.

Usually we search for circulars to enforce something in our favour,
but instances like these prove that sensitisation is still a powerful
tool.   We can quote these examples and convince other employers
including governments.

On 10/17/12, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

right sir, this matter is to be taken with the personnel and training
department.
- Original Message -
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to
governmentemployees with disabilities



Can't this be an advocacy point?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Eyeway Helpdesk
Sent: 17 October 2012 14:59
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Circular/order on providing training to government
employees
with disabilities

Hi all,

Greetings from Eyeway Helpdesk!

We've been receiving queries on a regular basis where people in
government
jobs express their desire to get some training to improve their
efficiency
at work. Section 38 of the PWD Act asks appropriate Governments and 
local

authorities to formulate schemes to ensure employment of PWDs, and such
schemes shall also provide for training of such employees. We have
however
not been able to find any circular/government order in this regard. The
detailed circular of DOPT on employment issued in 2005 also doesn't have
any such provisions.

If you know any such document of any state/central government, do 
forward

it to us on helpd...@eyeway.org.

With best regards,
Satguru Rathi | Helpdesk Executive
Project Eyeway - A knowledge resource for living a fuller life with
vision
loss C/o Score Foundation, 17/107 L.G.F., Vikram Vihar, Lajpat Nagar - 
4,

New  Delhi - 110024. India.
Helpdesk:+91-11-460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
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[AI] Scanning railway ticket

2012-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Friends
Has anybody scanned an Indian railway ticket sufficiently well to find the PNR 
number and other details?
I have totally failed.
If anybody has, then please indicate preferred settings...


With thanks and regards



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[AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in India, ByJayna Kothari

2012-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh


-Original Message-
From: worldopin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:worldopin...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:33 PM
To: jnuvision; accessindia
Cc: worldopinion
Subject: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in 
India,ByJayna Kothari

The Future of Disability Law in India
A Critical Analysis of the Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act 1995
Jayna Kothari
OUP India
240 pages | 215x140mm
978-0-19-807762-6 | Hardback | 15 March 2012
Price:  £25.

Reviewed By V. VENKATESAN

In her book, Jayna Kothari takes us through the debates on equality in
the context of disability. The Indian Constitution does not have any
substantive equality provisions under the Fundamental Rights chapter
in favour of disabled persons. There is no guarantee from the state to
prevent discrimination due to disability. It is unfortunate that our
founding fathers did not realise the need for such a provision. As the
author explains, disability results in consequences that include
marginalisation in every sphere of life, be it denial of education,
employment, recreation, income, identity or social recognition. This
has, in turn, led to the invisibility of disabled people as subjects
of human rights law.

India began late in disability legislation. The first was the Persons
with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995 (PWD Act). The author begins her book
observing that despite being on the statute book for more than 16
years, the Act is not understood well by lawyers, judges, academics,
students and civil society groups.

According to the recent Census data cited in the book, there are 21.9
million people with disabilities in India, that is, about 2.13 per
cent of the total population. The author suggests that this figure may
be an underestimate if one accepts the World Health Organisation (WHO)
argument that at least 10-12 per cent of the population in any country
is likely to be disabled.

In the first chapter, the author rightly asks why disability has not
been included in the Constitution as a ground for prohibition of
discrimination. Taking her cue from the Delhi High Court's judgment in
the Naz Foundation case, she suggests that grounds analogous to those
stated in Article 15 (prohibition of discrimination on grounds of
religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth) should also be protected
grounds for discrimination. Her plea is that disability should be
included as a ground for non-discrimination under Article 15(1) as it
is analogous to the protected grounds. Similarly, she suggests that
the non-discrimination provision under Article 16(2) should be read to
include disability as an analogous ground for non-discrimination in
public employment. Article 16(2) says that no citizen shall, on
grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, descent, place of birth,
residence or any of them, be ineligible for, or discriminated against
in respect of, any employment or office under the state.

She argues that persons with disability can also be considered by the
state as socially and educationally backward classes under Article
15(4), and the principle of substantive equality would require the
state to make special provisions or legislation for their advancement.
She makes a convincing case for the inclusion of persons with
disability within backward class of citizens which, in the opinion
of the state, is not adequately represented in the services under the
state and therefore would qualify for special provisions in its favour
under Article 16(4).

The author finds the definition of disability under the PWD Act both
faulty and inadequate and because of this she regrets that we have
been able to capture only a fraction of the complex reality of
disablement. The PWD Act mentions only seven specific disabilities:
blindness, low vision, leprosy-cured, hearing impairment, locomotor
disability, mental retardation and mental illness.

Calling this a medical model (rather than a social model) of
disability, Jayna Kothari argues that the Act ought to have focussed
on the effect of impairment, which may prevent persons from carrying
on their day-to-day activities or having access to facilities. She is
in favour of a broader definition of disability, one which defines a
disabled person as someone who has a disability. Such a broad
definition, she claims, will empower the disabled as they will no
longer have to prove that they are abnormal or focus on their deficits
when they assert their rights.

Among the disabilities left out in the current definition under the
PWD Act are muscular dystrophy, cystic fibriosis, and some forms of
hearing and vision loss. Others such as seizure conditions, multiple
sclerosis, loss of a limb, cancer, paralysis, HIV/AIDS, persons
suffering from internal organ failure and epilepsy also do not find a
mention in the current definition under the 

Re: [AI] Questions regarding blind astrologer, [if any]

2012-10-17 Thread Surendra Salgaonkar)
Dear mahesh,
 I personally thank you for the time you taken for the reply to my mail. Sir: 
are you totaly blind? Because i am totaly blind, and want to take chalange and 
go for it. I will definitely call you, but give some information about you. I 
do not mind to be on of the list, to avoid traffic...
Thank you  good luck!
Surendra Salgaonkar
Phones.
:+919867645933
:+912226473918
Emails.
Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
 Skype.
Link salgaonkarskype
-Original message-
From: Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent:  18.10.2012, 8.46  am
To: surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Questions regarding blind astrologer, [if any]


Dear Surendra,
Greetings of the day.

If you want to know about astrology the way I learnt, you will have to
talk to me on my mobile # and I might be free after 4:30 p.m.
(I.S.T.).

-- 
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears!!!
With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan Iyer
Mobile #: +91 9899353960
E-Mails: maheshde...@gmail.com, mahesh_de...@rediffmail.com



On 10/17/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
 1. Do you kno any blind astrologer who practice astrology regularily?
 2. If yes how he do so?
 3. Is there any software available with talk accessibility?
 4. I want to download best quality panchang, can you upload it?  I want to
 study astrology, it is possible for me?
 Please reply me, ___ you champions___
 Thank you  good luck!
 Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones.
 :+919867645933
 :+912226473918
 Emails.
 Link surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Link salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Skype.
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Re: [AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in India, ByJayna Kothari

2012-10-17 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Wonder what is the reference of the latest disability figure. To my 
understanding the Census figure on disability is still not out.
Harish Kotian.
 


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 18 October 2012 10:13
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in 
India, ByJayna Kothari



-Original Message-
From: worldopin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:worldopin...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:33 PM
To: jnuvision; accessindia
Cc: worldopinion
Subject: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in 
India,ByJayna Kothari

The Future of Disability Law in India
A Critical Analysis of the Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act 1995
Jayna Kothari
OUP India
240 pages | 215x140mm
978-0-19-807762-6 | Hardback | 15 March 2012
Price:  £25.

Reviewed By V. VENKATESAN

In her book, Jayna Kothari takes us through the debates on equality in
the context of disability. The Indian Constitution does not have any
substantive equality provisions under the Fundamental Rights chapter
in favour of disabled persons. There is no guarantee from the state to
prevent discrimination due to disability. It is unfortunate that our
founding fathers did not realise the need for such a provision. As the
author explains, disability results in consequences that include
marginalisation in every sphere of life, be it denial of education,
employment, recreation, income, identity or social recognition. This
has, in turn, led to the invisibility of disabled people as subjects
of human rights law.

India began late in disability legislation. The first was the Persons
with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995 (PWD Act). The author begins her book
observing that despite being on the statute book for more than 16
years, the Act is not understood well by lawyers, judges, academics,
students and civil society groups.

According to the recent Census data cited in the book, there are 21.9
million people with disabilities in India, that is, about 2.13 per
cent of the total population. The author suggests that this figure may
be an underestimate if one accepts the World Health Organisation (WHO)
argument that at least 10-12 per cent of the population in any country
is likely to be disabled.

In the first chapter, the author rightly asks why disability has not
been included in the Constitution as a ground for prohibition of
discrimination. Taking her cue from the Delhi High Court's judgment in
the Naz Foundation case, she suggests that grounds analogous to those
stated in Article 15 (prohibition of discrimination on grounds of
religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth) should also be protected
grounds for discrimination. Her plea is that disability should be
included as a ground for non-discrimination under Article 15(1) as it
is analogous to the protected grounds. Similarly, she suggests that
the non-discrimination provision under Article 16(2) should be read to
include disability as an analogous ground for non-discrimination in
public employment. Article 16(2) says that no citizen shall, on
grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, descent, place of birth,
residence or any of them, be ineligible for, or discriminated against
in respect of, any employment or office under the state.

She argues that persons with disability can also be considered by the
state as socially and educationally backward classes under Article
15(4), and the principle of substantive equality would require the
state to make special provisions or legislation for their advancement.
She makes a convincing case for the inclusion of persons with
disability within backward class of citizens which, in the opinion
of the state, is not adequately represented in the services under the
state and therefore would qualify for special provisions in its favour
under Article 16(4).

The author finds the definition of disability under the PWD Act both
faulty and inadequate and because of this she regrets that we have
been able to capture only a fraction of the complex reality of
disablement. The PWD Act mentions only seven specific disabilities:
blindness, low vision, leprosy-cured, hearing impairment, locomotor
disability, mental retardation and mental illness.

Calling this a medical model (rather than a social model) of
disability, Jayna Kothari argues that the Act ought to have focussed
on the effect of impairment, which may prevent persons from carrying
on their day-to-day activities or having access to facilities. She is
in favour of a broader definition of disability, one which defines a
disabled person as someone who has a disability. Such a broad
definition, she claims, will empower the disabled as they will no
longer have to prove that they are abnormal 

Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

2012-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I really do wonder at the invention of sound recording and how beneficial it 
has been for us visually challenged?

In digital era also, I cannot make out as how mere binary language of zeros and 
ones can reproduce the sound and pictures


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Syed Imran
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:53 PM
To: jaisonay...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

So the wind-up gramophone did not need electricity? Did it have a volume
control attached to it?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Jaison Bellarmine
Sent: 17 October 2012 15:27
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone

There was one gramaphone at HKCMM School for the Blind Karimpuzha in Kerala
which worked with the force of an woun spring. When the spring is tightened
the disc will start to revolve on its tray. A stylus which works as the
track reader is set in such a way that it moves in the track of the disc. In
the tracks, there is hights and low places in an anologue style as per the
recorded sound. So the stylus moves back and forth as the disc revolves.the
other end of the stylus is attached to a magnet which moves in a solinoid.
Since the stylus moves acording to the recorded audio frequency an audio
frequency signal is generated in the solinoid. This signal is coupled to a
tiny speaker which serves as the driver of a cone loudspeaker. The specially
designed cone loudspeaker, through its impedence matching, gives sufficient
volume to the audio output.
Even in this digital era, this invention is a real miracle. When I saw the
gramaphone for the last time, it could play only for one and a half minute
because of its weak spring. Experts were not available to repair it.
With regards,
Jaison Bellarmine-Original message-
From: Syed Imran
Sent:  07/10/2012, 12:31  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A glympse into the working of a Gramophone


Sorry folks. Just a correction - The inventor of the gramophone is Emile
Berliner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Berliner



Thanks

From: Syed Imran [mailto:syed.f...@gmail.com]
Sent: 07 October 2012 12:02
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in'
Subject: A glympse into the working of a Gramophone



Hi all



A gramophone is An antique record player; the sound of the vibrating needle
is amplified acoustically. It is the first machine to reproduce a recorded
sound with clarity. Has anyone come across a wind-up gramophone which
required no power? If so, please give its physical description.

This is invented by none other than one of the greatest inventor Thomas Alva
Edison. His other inventions included the incandescent electric light and
the microphone and the Kinetoscope (1847-1931).





In case you are curious to hear a sample sound of how a gramophone worked
those days, here's the link to the Advertising Record of phonographs,
recorded by Len Spencer circa 1906.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Advertising_Record.ogg



The recording begins, I am the Edison phonograph ., and explains the novel
benefits of the phonograph from the first person perspective of the machine.
A very early landmark of advertising in modern media, this was played widely
in shops to entice customers.



It is an Ogg Vorbis sound file, length 2m 23s, whose bit rate is 81kbps.



Thanks

Syed


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Re: [AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in India, ByJayna Kothari

2012-10-17 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
It is the same old figure of 2001 census.
It should of course be considered the latest in disability parlence
Smile!!!


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:34 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law 
in India, ByJayna Kothari

Hi
Wonder what is the reference of the latest disability figure. To my 
understanding the Census figure on disability is still not out.
Harish Kotian.
 


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 18 October 2012 10:13
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FW: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in 
India, ByJayna Kothari



-Original Message-
From: worldopin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:worldopin...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:33 PM
To: jnuvision; accessindia
Cc: worldopinion
Subject: (WorldOpinion) Book Review: The Future of Disability Law in 
India,ByJayna Kothari

The Future of Disability Law in India
A Critical Analysis of the Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act 1995
Jayna Kothari
OUP India
240 pages | 215x140mm
978-0-19-807762-6 | Hardback | 15 March 2012
Price:  £25.

Reviewed By V. VENKATESAN

In her book, Jayna Kothari takes us through the debates on equality in
the context of disability. The Indian Constitution does not have any
substantive equality provisions under the Fundamental Rights chapter
in favour of disabled persons. There is no guarantee from the state to
prevent discrimination due to disability. It is unfortunate that our
founding fathers did not realise the need for such a provision. As the
author explains, disability results in consequences that include
marginalisation in every sphere of life, be it denial of education,
employment, recreation, income, identity or social recognition. This
has, in turn, led to the invisibility of disabled people as subjects
of human rights law.

India began late in disability legislation. The first was the Persons
with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full
Participation) Act, 1995 (PWD Act). The author begins her book
observing that despite being on the statute book for more than 16
years, the Act is not understood well by lawyers, judges, academics,
students and civil society groups.

According to the recent Census data cited in the book, there are 21.9
million people with disabilities in India, that is, about 2.13 per
cent of the total population. The author suggests that this figure may
be an underestimate if one accepts the World Health Organisation (WHO)
argument that at least 10-12 per cent of the population in any country
is likely to be disabled.

In the first chapter, the author rightly asks why disability has not
been included in the Constitution as a ground for prohibition of
discrimination. Taking her cue from the Delhi High Court's judgment in
the Naz Foundation case, she suggests that grounds analogous to those
stated in Article 15 (prohibition of discrimination on grounds of
religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth) should also be protected
grounds for discrimination. Her plea is that disability should be
included as a ground for non-discrimination under Article 15(1) as it
is analogous to the protected grounds. Similarly, she suggests that
the non-discrimination provision under Article 16(2) should be read to
include disability as an analogous ground for non-discrimination in
public employment. Article 16(2) says that no citizen shall, on
grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, descent, place of birth,
residence or any of them, be ineligible for, or discriminated against
in respect of, any employment or office under the state.

She argues that persons with disability can also be considered by the
state as socially and educationally backward classes under Article
15(4), and the principle of substantive equality would require the
state to make special provisions or legislation for their advancement.
She makes a convincing case for the inclusion of persons with
disability within backward class of citizens which, in the opinion
of the state, is not adequately represented in the services under the
state and therefore would qualify for special provisions in its favour
under Article 16(4).

The author finds the definition of disability under the PWD Act both
faulty and inadequate and because of this she regrets that we have
been able to capture only a fraction of the complex reality of
disablement. The PWD Act mentions only seven specific disabilities:
blindness, low vision, leprosy-cured, hearing impairment, locomotor
disability, mental retardation and mental illness.

Calling this a medical model (rather than a social model) of
disability, Jayna 

Re: [AI] Assistance required for clearing timers in Nokia E63

2012-10-17 Thread sweety.bhalla
If you press the function key twice quickly, can write the full lock code 
without pressing it again.
- Original Message - 
From: Timy Sebastian Ettumanoor timys...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Assistance required for clearing timers in Nokia E63


Dear sir!!! iam also using the same model that is e63.

sure, it will ask the lock code for clear timers.

the nokia default lock code is, 12345.

press funtion key first,  then press the number.

for example, if  u didn't press funtion key, it will announce, r.

So, each time should press the funtion key and then press the desire number.



- Original Message - 
From: Sameer sala...@aim.com
To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:55 PM
Subject: [AI] Assistance required for clearing timers in Nokia E63



 Dear Friends,

 When I press the right soft key in the Call Duration list on my Nokia E63,
 one of the options is Clear Timers. When I selected this option, it asks
 for the Lock Code. I have not entered any lock code on my phone  pressing
 the right key (for OK) has no effect.

 Kindly advise me on how I can clear the timings in my Nokia E63.

 Thanking all in advance for any  all assistance.

 Regards
 Mr. Sameer Latey
 Mumbai, India

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Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

2012-10-17 Thread Rohit Trivedi
Further,
It takes lot of time to manage such a huge list. And such remarks are
disheartening demotivating, depressing and for a committed volunteer.
Rohit
 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Himanshu Sahu
Sent: 17 October 2012 20:55
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

Here you come now, Raj! This should have been the point of discussion,
whether the topic is within the purview of list's guideline's or not?
This could have  lead us to a constructive discussion and various outcomes
enriched by the viewpoints of learned members. But raising  a question of
racism by you or passing a judgement by Selvy about its intention of being
racist comment is completely far-fetched notion.

Racism, according to me is a highly inflammable topic and I can see that it
is being completely misused for labeling moderator's comment.
Let us open our heart and accept that we are only one, and that is Indian!
And here on the list, we are exclusively Visually Impaired gathered for
certain objectives! Our moderator is acting here as a guardian and head of
AI family. Asking him to apologize for such a misconceived perception is
really depressing experience.


On 10/17/12, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
 publicity stunt? O my! man i'm not such a person who is leading a 
 drama for

 publicity.

 Do you say discussing about disability commission is beyond the list 
 guidelines? If yes, explain it in what way it is going away from the 
 guidelines?

 As I'm not aware, whether the moderator is from north or south, east 
 or west, I do honestly feel such a sarcastic comment is wrong on his 
 part. Even

 if he is from the south. I'm a non-racist, non-religious so I don't 
 care wherever he is from.

 I'm still blinking why you people are blindly retaliating against 
 this? My only question is, what way I'm going away from the list 
 guidelines? Why the

 moderator is telling discussing about the disability commission is a 
 third party discussion?

 Kindly clear this illiterate.
 - Original Message -
 From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Hey Selvi,,
 if you aren't going to consider that wherefrom the moderator belongs, 
 then what is the logic of blaming him of being partial for the members 
 of a particular region? And where did the Raj mention that he is from 
 Chennai?

 For your information, I am from North India, and few days back I was 
 scolded by moderator for reacting harsh on a south Indian member.
 Should I have conceived that since the moderator is south Indian 
 (which I know beforehand) and that's why doing partiality with me?
 Raj, you too make sarcastic comments on the list itself!  The 
 moderator's comments whether sarcastic or not,  I don't know! But one 
 thing is for sure that it was not at all a comment based on the 
 narrow-minded regionalism, which according to me in fact, is very much 
 visible from your pre-conceived attitude.

 You are simply trying to make mountain out of a mol!
 Is it a publicity stunt?

 Hey, do something spectacular and gain positive publicity and 
 appriciation of people not through these kinds of hatred messages!



 On 10/17/12, Sheik mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 folks, running the mailing list is not an easy task.  i'm too from 
 south and

 I don't see such partisanship.  We often see even though moderator 
 sends periodical list guidelines, some are ignorant.  If any thread 
 goes beyond, it is the moderators sincere duty to manage it.  so 
 think and comment.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office


 Selvi
 I am afraid this is going too far.
 I don't see any reason to appologise.

 The list cannot be abused to put through 3rd party messages.

 Strangely, you sound as if a large number of persons are put under 
 moderation and especially I target south Indians. I can assure this 
 is your imagination as I don't come to know the whereabouts of 
 anyone. Nor I

 am interested in collecting this data.

 Let me have the ID's who are having any difficulty and I can look 
 into them. Those who are kept under moderation for violating the 
 list guidelines, there,  don't expect leniency.
 Harish Kotian




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of SELVI RAJAN BABU
 Sent: 17 October 2012 15:43
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Disability Commissioner's Office

 whether he's from south or north, east or west, I'm not going to 
 accept whatever he said is correct. He should apologise for his 
 loose talks.

 We, south indians are not partial. But as far as 

Re: [AI] talks query on c5

2012-10-17 Thread Satguru
Just change the typing echo to words or none (Talks+1)

Satguru
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- Original Message - 
From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 4:23 PM
Subject: [AI] talks query on c5


Hello,

When I type messages on my c5. It keeps promting letter at every press
for example, at every 1, 2, 3 and 4th press p, q, r, s etc.

It disturbes my typing and slows me down. How do I tackle it?
Tnx



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