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Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread raaju

Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation
regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And what
mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what
about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is the
mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will
display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've
spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why
eloquence tts doesn't read hindi?  If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we can't
say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that
this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin
reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi? 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Him Prasad Gautam
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

hi,
Let it be clear.
1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but
it only speaks.
2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that
application is meaningless.
However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
pertinent question.
Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
application is also right.
Conclusion.
In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it
should speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the
Hindi text of pdf format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a
person does not speak and keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes
voiceless. Here the silence is due to by a man not by the speaker!


On 9/23/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is the character encoding system Unicode? If not, then unfortunately
 you will not be able to read the PDF. If you are wondering why, search
 the archives of AI for a detailed explanation given by Mr. Him Prasad
 Gautam.
 If the text is in the form of an image, then you need to perform OCR.
 But neither the OCR addon for NVDA or FS Omnipage (as per my
 knowledge) support Hindi. I am inquiring about Hindi support in OCR
 addon for NVDA, because it should be possible, and will share what
 answers I get.
 Hope that helps.

 On 9/23/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using jaws 14 with lekha for hindi. Is it possible to read hindi
 with the help of lekha in a pdf document? I am also using NVDA, please
 tell me if it can be read with the NVDA too.

 --
 Mohib Anwar Rafel
 M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
 Phone: 09211192333,
 0926800
 Skype: mohibrafel



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[AI] Require scribe for JAIIB examination at Coimbatore.

2014-09-24 Thread Dinesh Thole

Hi All,

 

I need scribe for appearing for JAIIB examination at Coimbatore.

Actually, I had selected Pune as the exam center, but I have to attend  my
bank's training program at Coimbatore.

Since Coimbatore is a completely new place for me, I require help in finding
a scribe for me.

The exam dates are 9th, 16th and 23rd November(All Sundays)

I will get details such as exam timings, exam venue once I receive call
letter about a week before the exam.

I am supposed to provide my scribe details to IIBF at least 10 days before
the exam.

The scribe should not be a person working in a bank.

The exam will be online, so basic computer skills are a must.

I will be staying at SRI SABARI TOWERS in Ghandhipuram Coimbatore.

I request you to please let me know if any scribe could be made  available.

Also let me know encase if there is any organization with whom I can get in
touch for help in this regard.

 

Thanking you all.

 

Warm Regards.

 

 

Dinesh Thole.

Mobile: 7756985462.



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Re: [AI] child care allowance

2014-09-24 Thread Gunjan Singh

hello there,
 thanks for the information.. please also provide detailed information
if it's regularized to female banking clerks/officials... along with
teachers...

On 9/23/14, gtm.agra...@gmail.com gtm.agra...@gmail.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Manas
 Sent:  23/09/2014, 7:23  pm
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
   the disabled.; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
 issues
 concerning
   the disabled.
 Subject: [AI] child care allowance

 hello maanash g o i offers child care allowance of rs 1000 p m to its woman
 employee with disablity for mmaximum 2 children and up to 2 years. Recently
 karnataka gov. Has introduced a child care allowance of rs 2000 per month to
 every blind mother for 2 children up to 2 years. I have the concerned
 circulars tomorrow i will try to post on list.
 Hi list members,

 Is there any provision in government of india for Women with disability
 for child care allowance?

 If yes, then kindly provide relevant document.

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Re: [AI] wanted circular for disabled to provide infrastructure to work

2014-09-24 Thread HARSHVARDHAN SINGH NEGI

Kindly download the required order from the below link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4022100/Judgement/DOPT%20OFFICE%20MEMORANDUM%20REGARDING%20GUIDELINE%20%20PROVIDING%20FACILITIES%20%20TO%20PWD%20EMPLOYEES%20DATED%2031TH%20MARCH%202014.pdf
Thanks
HS Negi

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concerningthe disabled. AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:12 AM
Subject: [AI] wanted circular for disabled to provide infrastructure to work

Good morning friends,

As I am working for indian railways at enquiry counter.  I  am need of
internet connection and jaws to work at my place, as the app what the
railways are using is not accessable with screen reader.  Hence i
requested my higher officer to provide internet facility to work at
enquiry counter.  He responded quickely and asked for any circular/G.O
whichtells to provide infrastructure at work place.

thanks and regards,
sazid

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Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA

as far as the above explaination is concerned, it was meant to provide an
idea of whether it is the screen reader or the TTS that supports the
application. the question you raised is regarding the support for language,
not the application. in case of language, it is the tts which determines
the compatibility or support for a specific language. if you consider the
litarary sense of the example of mike in this regard, it will slightly
differ in the technical term. still it very much resembles the significance
of the example with that of the TTS. for instance, if the source code of
eloquence becomes available under the new general public license for all to
compile and/or modify the software just like various open source
application, we can make the eloquence to read Hindi or any other language
as well. I think the Vachaks developed by Him Prasad Gautam sir for several
Indian regional languages are the recompiled version of the E speak TTS
since it is also an open source application, and provides all sorts of
flexibilities to modify its features according to our requirements. hence,
to put it simple, you can consider the TTS as a mike, which has some
compatibility issues in rendering certain sound outputs.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation
 regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And what
 mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what
 about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is the
 mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will
 display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've
 spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why
 eloquence tts doesn't read hindi?  If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we
 can't
 say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that
 this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin
 reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Him Prasad Gautam
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

 hi,
 Let it be clear.
 1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but
 it only speaks.
 2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
 3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
 4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that
 application is meaningless.
 However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
 pertinent question.
 Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
 application is also right.
 Conclusion.
 In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it
 should speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the
 Hindi text of pdf format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a
 person does not speak and keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes
 voiceless. Here the silence is due to by a man not by the speaker!


 On 9/23/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is the character encoding system Unicode? If not, then unfortunately
  you will not be able to read the PDF. If you are wondering why, search
  the archives of AI for a detailed explanation given by Mr. Him Prasad
  Gautam.
  If the text is in the form of an image, then you need to perform OCR.
  But neither the OCR addon for NVDA or FS Omnipage (as per my
  knowledge) support Hindi. I am inquiring about Hindi support in OCR
  addon for NVDA, because it should be possible, and will share what
  answers I get.
  Hope that helps.
 
  On 9/23/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am using jaws 14 with lekha for hindi. Is it possible to read hindi
  with the help of lekha in a pdf document? I am also using NVDA, please
  tell me if it can be read with the NVDA too.
 
  --
  Mohib Anwar Rafel
  M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
  Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
  Phone: 09211192333,
  0926800
  Skype: mohibrafel
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread Him Prasad Gautam

hi,
There is next option.
Convert the pdf to word.
among many pdf to word converter, AbleToEbstract is the most efficient
converter.
Unfortunately, it is not Vi friendly.


On 9/24/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Hi
 To follow up, the name of the software is: Valaya Vedan
 There are a few versions one can choose from the download url is:
 http://thirdeyetvg.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=13Itemid=7
 I believe there are also some font converters in it too.

 Harish.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kotian, H P
 Sent: 24 September 2014 09:22
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

 Hi
 To make it simple, I understand, Acrobat reader does not support Unicode.
 Therefore no screen reader will read Hindi on Acrobat reader.
 What you need is a PDF reader which supports unicode.
 If I get one, I shall let you know on this list. Third eye an NGO has it on
 their website. I shall have to dig it out.

 Harish.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Him Prasad Gautam
 Sent: 24 September 2014 07:16
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

 hi,
 Let it be clear.
 1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but it
 only speaks.
 2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
 3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
 4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that application
 is meaningless.
 However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
 pertinent question.
 Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
 application is also right.
 Conclusion.
 In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it should
 speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the Hindi text of pdf
 format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a person does not speak and
 keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes voiceless. Here the silence is due to
 by a man not by the speaker!


 On 9/23/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is the character encoding system Unicode? If not, then unfortunately
 you will not be able to read the PDF. If you are wondering why, search
 the archives of AI for a detailed explanation given by Mr. Him Prasad
 Gautam.
 If the text is in the form of an image, then you need to perform OCR.
 But neither the OCR addon for NVDA or FS Omnipage (as per my
 knowledge) support Hindi. I am inquiring about Hindi support in OCR
 addon for NVDA, because it should be possible, and will share what
 answers I get.
 Hope that helps.

 On 9/23/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using jaws 14 with lekha for hindi. Is it possible to read hindi
 with the help of lekha in a pdf document? I am also using NVDA,
 please tell me if it can be read with the NVDA too.

 --
 Mohib Anwar Rafel
 M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
 Phone: 09211192333,
 0926800
 Skype: mohibrafel



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[AI] About ITR 7 Java Utility.

2014-09-24 Thread Amiyo Biswas

Hello,

I am working on the ITR 7 java utility for filing of my organisation's income 
tax return. It has no excel equivalent. And it is completely inaccessible even 
with java access bridge.

The problem is that when I saved it as draft first time, it worked nicely. When 
I am working on it again with sighted help, of course, i can't really save it 
again. If I try to save it, there is always error messages about the unfinished 
fields. If I try to save as draft, it is asking for a new file name. I am 
keeping my laptop in hybernate mode to avoid saving the file. Since the return 
is very complicated and it requires a lot of data, I can't finish it in a 
single sitting. Has anyone worked on this java utility?

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329


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Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread Him Prasad Gautam

hi,
The explanation of Mr. BIKRAMADITYA  is sufficient to understand.
Further more:
Mr. Aju, take my exact words:
I have used the word 'like mike' not exactly mike. You took its
mechanical sense.
Anyway, instead of mouth and mike; now take it as mind and mouth.
screen reader as a mind which determines what to say and the
tongue/throat speakes that word/phrase what is assembled by the mind.
In case of jaws with eloquence, now take that the eloquence has no
tongue/throat which can produce Hindi phoneme.
But the running jaws, which can be taken as a mind of a person (please
do not take this word mechanically again!) is recognizing the Hindi
text and sending the words/phrases to mouth. But the eloquence has no
tong to pronounce it.
The functionality of jaws either lekha or eloquence does not differ
but the output is governed by the TTS.
If you still wish to take my previous example, then understand that
the no speech of eloquence to Hindi means there is no mike.
In brief:
1. if jaws be considered as mouth and eloquence as mike; then in case
of Hindi, understand that there is no mike.
2. If jaws be considered as mind and eloquence as a mouth; then in
case of Hindi, understand there is no tongue/throat.




.


On 9/24/14, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA bikram.greets...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as the above explaination is concerned, it was meant to provide an
 idea of whether it is the screen reader or the TTS that supports the
 application. the question you raised is regarding the support for language,
 not the application. in case of language, it is the tts which determines
 the compatibility or support for a specific language. if you consider the
 litarary sense of the example of mike in this regard, it will slightly
 differ in the technical term. still it very much resembles the significance
 of the example with that of the TTS. for instance, if the source code of
 eloquence becomes available under the new general public license for all to
 compile and/or modify the software just like various open source
 application, we can make the eloquence to read Hindi or any other language
 as well. I think the Vachaks developed by Him Prasad Gautam sir for several
 Indian regional languages are the recompiled version of the E speak TTS
 since it is also an open source application, and provides all sorts of
 flexibilities to modify its features according to our requirements. hence,
 to put it simple, you can consider the TTS as a mike, which has some
 compatibility issues in rendering certain sound outputs.

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation
 regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And
 what
 mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what
 about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is
 the
 mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will
 display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've
 spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why
 eloquence tts doesn't read hindi?  If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we
 can't
 say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that
 this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin
 reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Him Prasad Gautam
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

 hi,
 Let it be clear.
 1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but
 it only speaks.
 2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
 3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
 4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that
 application is meaningless.
 However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
 pertinent question.
 Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
 application is also right.
 Conclusion.
 In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it
 should speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the
 Hindi text of pdf format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a
 person does not speak and keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes
 voiceless. Here the silence is due to by a man not by the speaker!


 On 9/23/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is the character encoding system Unicode? If not, then unfortunately
  you will not be able to read the PDF. If you are wondering why, search
  the archives of AI for a detailed explanation given by Mr. Him Prasad
  Gautam.
  If the text is in the form of an image, then you need to perform OCR.
  But neither the OCR addon for NVDA or FS Omnipage (as per

Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread Sheik Mohammedali

cool!  screen reader gathers the information and tts produces the audio 
output.  even braile display devices are controled by the screen reader 
itself where we don't require audio output.  this means that the absense of 
TTS the information can be gathered by the screen reader and these tts 
engines contain their speech parameters, strings and dictionaries based on 
the particular language.
- Original Message - 
From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

hi,
The explanation of Mr. BIKRAMADITYA  is sufficient to understand.
Further more:
Mr. Aju, take my exact words:
I have used the word 'like mike' not exactly mike. You took its
mechanical sense.
Anyway, instead of mouth and mike; now take it as mind and mouth.
screen reader as a mind which determines what to say and the
tongue/throat speakes that word/phrase what is assembled by the mind.
In case of jaws with eloquence, now take that the eloquence has no
tongue/throat which can produce Hindi phoneme.
But the running jaws, which can be taken as a mind of a person (please
do not take this word mechanically again!) is recognizing the Hindi
text and sending the words/phrases to mouth. But the eloquence has no
tong to pronounce it.
The functionality of jaws either lekha or eloquence does not differ
but the output is governed by the TTS.
If you still wish to take my previous example, then understand that
the no speech of eloquence to Hindi means there is no mike.
In brief:
1. if jaws be considered as mouth and eloquence as mike; then in case
of Hindi, understand that there is no mike.
2. If jaws be considered as mind and eloquence as a mouth; then in
case of Hindi, understand there is no tongue/throat.

.

On 9/24/14, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA bikram.greets...@gmail.com wrote:

as far as the above explaination is concerned, it was meant to provide an
idea of whether it is the screen reader or the TTS that supports the
application. the question you raised is regarding the support for 
language,

not the application. in case of language, it is the tts which determines
the compatibility or support for a specific language. if you consider the
litarary sense of the example of mike in this regard, it will slightly
differ in the technical term. still it very much resembles the 
significance

of the example with that of the TTS. for instance, if the source code of
eloquence becomes available under the new general public license for all 
to

compile and/or modify the software just like various open source
application, we can make the eloquence to read Hindi or any other 
language
as well. I think the Vachaks developed by Him Prasad Gautam sir for 
several

Indian regional languages are the recompiled version of the E speak TTS
since it is also an open source application, and provides all sorts of
flexibilities to modify its features according to our requirements. 
hence,

to put it simple, you can consider the TTS as a mike, which has some
compatibility issues in rendering certain sound outputs.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation
regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And
what
mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what
about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is
the
mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will
display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've
spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why
eloquence tts doesn't read hindi?  If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we
can't
say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that
this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin
reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Him Prasad Gautam
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

hi,
Let it be clear.
1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but
it only speaks.
2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that
application is meaningless.
However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
pertinent question.
Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
application is also right.
Conclusion.
In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it
should speak the text.

Re: [AI] child care allowance

2014-09-24 Thread Manas

On 23/09/2014 09:58 PM, gtm.agra...@gmail.com wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Manas
Sent:  23/09/2014, 7:23  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: [AI] child care allowance

hello maanash g o i offers child care allowance of rs 1000 p m to its woman 
employee with disablity for mmaximum 2 children and up to 2 years. Recently 
karnataka gov. Has introduced a child care allowance of rs 2000 per month to 
every blind mother for 2 children up to 2 years. I have the concerned circulars 
tomorrow i will try to post on list.
Hi list members,

Is there any provision in government of india for Women with disability
for child care allowance?

If yes, then kindly provide relevant document.

Regards to all!

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actually, my wife  is teacher center gov. school. she did not awaile 
cca. can she do the same now?

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[AI] Fwd: Input using Braille on iPhone

2014-09-24 Thread Harbhajan

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Harbhajan harbhajan1...@gmail.com
 Date: 24 September 2014 9:57:32 am IST
 To: accessin...@accessindia.org accessin...@accessindia.org
 Subject: Input using Braille on iPhone

 hai friends those who are using iphone may be aware of the new method of 
 input text using brail.  its a feature on ios 8 which helps us to type fast 
 using braille codes.  this feature can be enabled in router under 
 accessibility settings and then can be accessed using the router commands.
 regards 
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Re: [AI] from whare can i get notes for ibps clarical and po also for state bank of india

2014-09-24 Thread Mohit Gupta

hi oston
Please tell me the name of the subjects which CDs you have got from
NAB delhi? the

On 9/24/14, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all.
i am studying for ibps clarical exam so what all are the subjects i
know english and computer knowledge and maths is there what more is
there? do i have to study reasoning i am finding lots of dificulties
in it

On 9/24/14, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote:
there are treading books for sbi po in the start of the table its
mensionned there english speaking for sbi po and all

On 9/23/14, bilal ahmed billu0...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all
I have visit the link :
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samritatrust.org%2Fdownaudiobooks.phpsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNG44BCJpJDvFAXu9XcofeFrYKmZJQ
But there are a lot of books
How can I find reading books for the exam of sbi po
Please help

On 9/23/14, RAghavendra raghavendrakarnat...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Sir,
Visit:
http://www.samritatrust.org/downaudiobooks.php

On 9/23/2014 10:14 PM, gtm.agra...@gmail.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Austin Pinto
Sent: 22/09/2014, 11:54 am
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.; keyboardusers; list; sayeverything
Subject: [AI] from whare can i get notes for ibps clarical and po also
for
state bank of india

hi all.
i required notes for ibps po and clarical exams also for state bank of
india exam.
also can some1 tell me what is the difference between ibps and state
bank exams and which 1 is more easy.
i had asked the mailing lists for banking but no1 is ready to help.
regarding notes
i have got 2 cds from nab but thoes are only for 2 subjects what about
the
rest?

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Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

2014-09-24 Thread raaju

Oh. Thanks for clearifying my doubt, sir. Now I am quite clear with this
concept.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Him Prasad Gautam
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:37 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

hi,
The explanation of Mr. BIKRAMADITYA  is sufficient to understand.
Further more:
Mr. Aju, take my exact words:
I have used the word 'like mike' not exactly mike. You took its
mechanical sense.
Anyway, instead of mouth and mike; now take it as mind and mouth.
screen reader as a mind which determines what to say and the
tongue/throat speakes that word/phrase what is assembled by the mind.
In case of jaws with eloquence, now take that the eloquence has no
tongue/throat which can produce Hindi phoneme.
But the running jaws, which can be taken as a mind of a person (please
do not take this word mechanically again!) is recognizing the Hindi
text and sending the words/phrases to mouth. But the eloquence has no
tong to pronounce it.
The functionality of jaws either lekha or eloquence does not differ
but the output is governed by the TTS.
If you still wish to take my previous example, then understand that
the no speech of eloquence to Hindi means there is no mike.
In brief:
1. if jaws be considered as mouth and eloquence as mike; then in case
of Hindi, understand that there is no mike.
2. If jaws be considered as mind and eloquence as a mouth; then in
case of Hindi, understand there is no tongue/throat.

.

On 9/24/14, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA bikram.greets...@gmail.com wrote:
 as far as the above explaination is concerned, it was meant to provide an
 idea of whether it is the screen reader or the TTS that supports the
 application. the question you raised is regarding the support for
language,
 not the application. in case of language, it is the tts which determines
 the compatibility or support for a specific language. if you consider the
 litarary sense of the example of mike in this regard, it will slightly
 differ in the technical term. still it very much resembles the
significance
 of the example with that of the TTS. for instance, if the source code of
 eloquence becomes available under the new general public license for all
to
 compile and/or modify the software just like various open source
 application, we can make the eloquence to read Hindi or any other language
 as well. I think the Vachaks developed by Him Prasad Gautam sir for
several
 Indian regional languages are the recompiled version of the E speak TTS
 since it is also an open source application, and provides all sorts of
 flexibilities to modify its features according to our requirements. hence,
 to put it simple, you can consider the TTS as a mike, which has some
 compatibility issues in rendering certain sound outputs.

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation
 regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And
 what
 mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what
 about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is
 the
 mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will
 display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've
 spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why
 eloquence tts doesn't read hindi?  If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we
 can't
 say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that
 this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin
 reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Him Prasad Gautam
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document?

 hi,
 Let it be clear.
 1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts  but
 it only speaks.
 2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader.
 3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth.
 4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that
 application is meaningless.
 However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is
 pertinent question.
 Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that
 application is also right.
 Conclusion.
 In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it
 should speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the
 Hindi text of pdf format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a
 person does not speak and keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes
 voiceless. Here the silence is due to by a man not by the speaker!

 On 9/23/14, Bhavya

Re: [AI] about ITR 7 Java utility

2014-09-24 Thread Amar Jain

Respected Amiyo Da,

While I have no solution to your problem; still would appreciate if
you raise your concerns of accessibility and lack of alternative by
sending an email to I..T. Department. They have been very responsive,
and I am sure they would extend their cooperation.

The idea is just to let them know that there are enough of blind users
who are affected by this change. So there is an equal need to cater to
the requirements of accessible standards.

Email IDs:
chair...@incometaxindia.gov.in
dgit.syst...@incometaxindia.gov.in

Will be great if you could copy me as I am following up with them to
make sure an accessible solution is available at all times.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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[AI] how to copy Images from web page to another file?

2014-09-24 Thread raaju

Respected sirs,

I want to know the few small things regarding internet that suppose we don't
have any sighted person with us, and we want to copy some images from the
web page to my document, it is possible to do? If then please teach me, what
is happening is that yes, I could able to identify the image which I wanted
to paste on my documents, (however my inttenssion is not editing  the
image)say, in word file. when I select that image by pressing the
traditional key like sift+down arrow on the internet (I'm the mozilla
firefox user)  it is only selecting as well as pasting the name of the image
like graphic 127, or graphic ;-) etc, but not pasting the actual image on my
document. What sighted person do is that they drag the image whatever they
want to have  the image, and simply drop the image on there respective
document. Does jaws have the feature of drag and drop also? If not then
please provide me the ulternative solution. 
And second thing, is it possible to copy/paste of internet article without
loosing any format? What going here is that when I try to copy/paste the
internet content, assuming that in internet, there are so many list, links,
blockquotes, etc and jaws use different messages to indicate such element
like whenever jaws incounter  list item, jaws announse list of 10 items or
whatever the listt has. If jaws incounter any link site say raju, jaws
indicate by saying, link raju or sendmail link raju. So when I try to
paste such formatted articals without loosing the format, what I noticed
that instead of actual format, it is simply pasting such jaws message. Is
there a way to select the article without loosing format? 

Please help me to rectify such problem, as I have to do lots of such work
for our project. 

Your raju.




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Re: [AI] Accounting software for vision impaired

2014-09-24 Thread Arvind Bhartiya

Hi milan
you were interacting with the software  guys and had also downloaded a
demo version.
What has been your experience with the software?
Thanks
Arvind Bhartiya

On 9/9/14, Milan milan.mit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 Here is the link to download this software -
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23855369/ecm.zip
 I am not getting much time to check its accessability and other
 issues. Will keep updating regarding the same as I get time.

 On 9/6/14, Arvind Bhartiya arvind.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Milan,
 The accounting softwares are basically same across geographies.
 What they probably mean is that it is pre geared to handle tax in
 specific countries.
 Like GST and vat in  different states  in the US.
 These parameters are mostly variables and can be set and customised.
 What is really important is the accessibility.
 They have a free trial download and that can answer  a  lot of questions.
 Do keep us updated.
 regards
 Arvind Bhartiya

 On 9/6/14, Milan milan.mit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Arvind Sir,
 I checked the link. It says that this software is for United States,
 Australia and New Zealand users only. I have mailed the company for
 details in relation to Indian users.
 I have tried Busy V12 and it is accessable with Jaws cursor to some
 extent.
 On 7 May, 2013, Tally informed CCPD that there new version will have
 necessary support for various screen readers like JAWS and NVDA but no
 improvements have been seen regarding the same.

 On 9/5/14, Arvind Bhartiya arvind.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 There is a  fully accessable accounting software  for the visually
 impaired,  known as
 Cash Manager.
 Below is the link
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/05/prweb3965014.htm

 They claim it is fully accessable  with screen readers.
 I  haven't tried it yet but would be intrested in knowing the
 experience of users.
 regards
 Arvind Bhartiya

 On 9/4/14, ashishsingl...@gmail.com ashishsingl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys, I have never used telly but if you need any help in
 developing
 a
 basic template  in MS-Excel then I can help. You can call me between 7
 and
 9
  in the evening.

 Regards
 Ashish
 09814212334

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 04-Sep-2014, at 9:49 am, 'Avneesh Singh' via Retina India Connect
 
 rpp-in...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Quite right
 , the JAWS scripts work till Tally 7.2. I was in the team that
 developed
 these in 2005.
 There is technical limitation in Tally, it does not expose
 information
 through accessibility API. So, JAWS scripts can help to an extent,
 but
 cannot make it as accessible as MS Excel.
 At that time, we explained the Tally developers how they can make
 some
 changes in their code to make it accessible. Initially they agreed
 but
 after some months they stopped working on these improvements.

 I am not aware if further development on this subject took place
 after
 that. A couple of people contacted me for guidance, they wanted to
 take
 it
 forward. But I have not heard anything after that.

 Busywin is a better option than Tally on accessibility terms. The
 only
 problem is that it is not so popular among accountants, so people
 fine
 it
 difficult to find accountants who want to learn it and use it.

 with regards
 Avneesh

 -Original Message- From: Sunil Sangtani.
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:11 AM
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: {Retina India Connect} guidance required

 hi,
 the jaws scripts for tally is only available till 7.2.
 busy win version 12 is one such software that is somewhat useable
 with
 jaws.
 the good thing of it that it supports the tally's files also, so you
 can try the demo and can go for it if you like it.
 the edit boxs can be labeled in the busy and rest things are readable
 with jaws cursor.
 do try, might help.


 On 9/3/14, Puneet Goenka handicrafts.goe...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks sir for the info.
 regards
 puneet goenka
 - Original Message -
 From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:23 PM
 Subject: RE: {Retina India Connect} guidance required


 Saksham did make jaws scripts for tally so write to
 i...@saksham.org

 -Original Message-
 From: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:rpp-in...@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Aditya Agarwal
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 12:17 PM
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: {Retina India Connect} guidance required

 Hi Puneet, I am into business of ceramic tiles. Even I have tried
 using Tally with jaws but it doesnt work. I use excel for all my
 accounts and there is no other option but to post all entries
 separately in all ledgers. Someone told me that we can personalise
 excel also in such a way that all the contra entries will be posted
 automatically. But we need professional assistance to design excel
 according to our needs.

 On 9/2/14, Puneet Goenka handicrafts.goe...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks vamshi for the reply
 though i have never

Re: [AI] how to copy Images from web page to another file?

2014-09-24 Thread Him Prasad Gautam

hi,
yes jaws has the facility of drag and drop.
But it is slightly tricky.
you can use the lock/unlock option of the mouse buttons.


On 9/24/14, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected sirs,

 I want to know the few small things regarding internet that suppose we
 don't
 have any sighted person with us, and we want to copy some images from the
 web page to my document, it is possible to do? If then please teach me,
 what
 is happening is that yes, I could able to identify the image which I wanted
 to paste on my documents, (however my inttenssion is not editing  the
 image)say, in word file. when I select that image by pressing the
 traditional key like sift+down arrow on the internet (I'm the mozilla
 firefox user)  it is only selecting as well as pasting the name of the
 image
 like graphic 127, or graphic ;-) etc, but not pasting the actual image on
 my
 document. What sighted person do is that they drag the image whatever they
 want to have  the image, and simply drop the image on there respective
 document. Does jaws have the feature of drag and drop also? If not then
 please provide me the ulternative solution.
 And second thing, is it possible to copy/paste of internet article without
 loosing any format? What going here is that when I try to copy/paste the
 internet content, assuming that in internet, there are so many list, links,
 blockquotes, etc and jaws use different messages to indicate such element
 like whenever jaws incounter  list item, jaws announse list of 10 items
 or
 whatever the listt has. If jaws incounter any link site say raju, jaws
 indicate by saying, link raju or sendmail link raju. So when I try to
 paste such formatted articals without loosing the format, what I noticed
 that instead of actual format, it is simply pasting such jaws message. Is
 there a way to select the article without loosing format?

 Please help me to rectify such problem, as I have to do lots of such work
 for our project.

 Your raju.




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Re: [AI] from whare can i get notes for ibps clarical and po also for state bank of india

2014-09-24 Thread Austin Pinto

1. National School Of Banking_E1164
2. NSB

On 9/24/14, Mohit Gupta mohitchan...@gmail.com wrote:
hi oston
Please tell me the name of the subjects which CDs you have got from
NAB delhi? the

On 9/24/14, Austin Pinto austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com wrote:
there are treading books for sbi po in the start of the table its
mensionned there english speaking for sbi po and all

On 9/23/14, RAghavendra raghavendrakarnat...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Sir,
Visit:
http://www.samritatrust.org/downaudiobooks.php

hi all.
i required notes for ibps po and clarical exams also for state bank
of
india exam.
also can some1 tell me what is the difference between ibps and state
bank exams and which 1 is more easy.
i had asked the mailing lists for banking but no1 is ready to help.
regarding notes
i have got 2 cds from nab but thoes are only for 2 subjects what
about
the
rest?

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