RE: [AI] what happened to Saktek?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hello Friends,

Wow I did not know something like this existed and so well organized on-line. 
It seems far superior to what we had back in South Africa, the National Council 
for the Blind shop, which only had a physical store with no on-line presence, 
and with products that were often damaged or old and withered.

It’s quite amazing actually, because outside of India, India is portrayed as a 
primitive, backward country, in which everyone are virtually beggars on the 
street! How wrong this impression is!

In fact, we have the greatest wealth in our spiritual wisdom, what to speak of 
our fast developing infrastructure.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of kannan balasubramanian
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 10:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] what happened to Saktek?

 

I purchased few things from Saktek.in last week. I paid through internet 
banking and got my products delivered last week within 5 working days.

 

The website is working well.

 

Thank you.

 

B. KANNAN

Mobile: +919444049216.

 

 

 

On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:55 PM anirudh rao mailto:personalanir...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear access India friends,

A few years ago, a website called saktek.in   had made a news.

It used to be the shopping site for visually challenged people.

Any news about it now?

Recently, I wanted to buy a chessboard and had visited the site and it was 
functional but, seemed that it had not been updated since 2019.

Has anyone bought anything recently from the site?

 

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Other Android screen-readers [was RE: [AI] Samsung TalkBack and serious accessibility issues]

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Shankar C wrote:

> so, better you can also install the csr as your secondary screen reader for 
> emergencies. >

 

What is the CSR? I know only of Talkback and Prudence screen-readers for 
Android. Talkback if I understand correctly also now has a variant Voice 
Assistant or something. So what is the CSR? Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 7:29 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Samsung TalkBack and serious accessibility issues

 

on the u p i pin page, after inputting the 1st digit of your pin, the talkback 
restarts and there won't be any speech feedback for you to enter the rest of 
the digits.

so, better you can also install the csr as your secondary screen reader for 
emergencies.

 

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 12:11 PM Mahesh S. Panicker mailto:maheshspanic...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I've been told by some accessibility experts that the bug seem to be in terms 
of Samsung OneUI, and that installing Google TalkBack may not solve the issue. 
Also, what could be the nature of difficulties with UPI pin entry? If it is an 
issue without workarounds, then I will have no option but to stick to Samsung 
TalkBack for the time being as I am a regular UPI user. 

Regards, 

 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 2:36 PM Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey,

But be careful, I have read that even when you install Google Talkback in such 
a way, it has its own bugs also, you are playing with your system.

Another thing, Google will still not support you.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:48 AM Shankar C mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

1. install the android accessibility suite from the play stor.

2. get the required files from the given youtube link.

3. enable the developer mode on your android device.

4. connect your device to the windows pc/laptop and allow the permissions on 
your phone.

5. unzip the downloaded files and enter on the 1st file to activate the google 
and 2nd file for d-activating the samsung talkback.

hope its cleare.

 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 9:10 AM bhawani shankar verma mailto:bsvermad...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Can you guide  step by step on text. It is not clear in youtube tutorial. 

 

On Sat, 31 Aug 2024, 7:56 am Shankar C, mailto:techsavi.shan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

mahesh,

better you can switch to google talkback in order to solve your existing 
samsung talkback issues.

follow this demonstration to replace the google talkback with samsung talkback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEA6hClOvO8 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEA6hClOvO8&t=351s> &t=351s

after replacing, you may encounter issues on entering the passwords on u p i 
apps such as gpay and phonepay. and sometime voice input may not function 
properly. use at your own risk.

if you face any challenges, give me a call on 7795927572.

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 6:06 PM Ashutosh Singhal mailto:ashutoshsinghal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have a Samsung Galaxy A33 5 G. Sir Kindly call me at +91 8076798104.

 

On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 at 23:14, Mahesh S. Panicker mailto:maheshspanic...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi listers. 

I am here with the need for some help with major accessibility issues being 
created by Samsung TalkBack. 

I have a Samsung Galaxy M52 5G running Android 13 and Samsung TalkBack 
13.5.0.2.3. 

I have been facing serious difficulties with a few banking apps of late, 
including on IDFC First Bank, Standard Chartered and RBL Bank. I have been 
trying to work closely with the IDFC team at least besides repeatedly writing 
to the rest. I was told by the IDFC team that the issue is with the Samsung 
TalkBack integration. On testing the app on a Oneplus device I could find its 
working alright. And when I tested on my wife's Samsung Galaxy M53 again it 
worked OK. So I realized that the issue is with the Samsung TalkBack older 
version. For some strange and silly reasons, Samsung isn't pushing TalkBack 
14.1 on to older Samsung devices, we are stuck on 13.5. Google TalkBack I am 
told by many, has now overtaken Samsung custom version that used to be good 
once upon a time! 

Anyone faced any similar issues with any of these banking apps in particular on 
a Samsung device? Also, anyone tried replacing the Samsung custom version of 
TalkBack with the stok Google version? Is there a safe and easy way of doing 
the same? 

Thanks in advance, 




 

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Associate Professor, 
Department of Political Science, 
Lady Shri Ram College for Women, 
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RE: [AI] Request for Assistance with Learning Audio Editing and Sound Designing

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

The most serious of music producers and sound engineers these days, including 
among blind producers and engineers are using Reaper.

The developers are working closely with blind software developers to build 
perhaps the most accessible digital audio workstation ever built thus far, even 
better than Sonar which I’ve been using successfully to release three albums.

Here are demos to listen to, where these guys show practically how to install 
Reaper and all the necessary tools for accessibility to work properly. Then 
they make music projects in realtime to demonstrate how they use the 
screen-reader to navigate. It’s actually very impressive.

https://www.theglobalvoice.info/reaper/

 

Hope this helps. Actually I’m sure it will help!

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Subhajit Bhunia
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 7:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Request for Assistance with Learning Audio Editing and Sound 
Designing

 

Dear Friends,

I hope this message finds you well.

My name is Subhajit Bhunia, and I am currently a second-year, third-semester 
student in the Department of Bengali at Jadavpur University. I am reaching out 
to express my interest in learning audio editing and sound designing.

As someone who uses accessible screen reading software, I am particularly 
interested in finding accessible audio editing software and resources. If you 
could kindly share any tutorials, guides, or offer any assistance on this 
subject, I would be deeply grateful.

Thank you very much for your time and support.

Best regards,

Subhajit Bhunia,

Department of Bengali,

Jadavpur University

M-6372035788

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[AI] Accessible Awakening Recorded session

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

 

Some months back I informed you that we are starting the study of Bhagavad-gita 
among the blind community.

 

We have been running smoothly for over a month now, but today’s session is 
worth reporting among the blind community.

Why? In the introduction of the Bhagavad-gita, we read about a tree being 
reflected upside-down when viewed from a body of water. This was an analogy 
describing the material world as a perverted reflection of the spiritual world, 
with the analogy to be extended in more detail in the 15th chapter later on.

 

Two members of our group, one from South Africa and another from India, 
elaborated on the concept of an upside-down reflection in ways that are quite 
revealing, since they have both had sight previously in early childhood. This 
helps understanding the analogy made between the material world and the 
perverted reflection of the spiritual world.

 

I don't think this kind of discussion could ever take place among sighted 
students because for them seeing a reflection is so normal that they never need 
to discuss the phenomenon itself. They will only discuss the analogy, while the 
concept is for them, self-evident by the physical experience of sight.

 

This group is definitely valuable for the unique learning process that we 
undergo through our study of Bhagavad-Gita, with some of us perhaps more 
experienced with the Vedic World-view than others, and yet some of us perhaps 
more skilled in the blind-sighted phenomena - a platform where everyone learns 
from each other mutually. It is a unique opportunity not to be missed by anyone 
having existential questions, or curiosity about God, the living beings, the 
influence of time, the material nature in which we now operate, and the 
activities we perform and their reactions Etc.

 

If you are interested in joining the sessions, do drop me a mail with your 
Whatsapp phone number, to be added to the Whatsapp group. I will then call you 
to collect info about you for our records, such as where you live, your level 
of blindness, whether you read braille, using TTS or Audio book, your field of 
work or study/retirement Etc, and finally bring you on-board. Note: your 
information will not be shared publically but kept only for our record, to 
ensure you may be facilitated in terms of your reading preferences, proclivity 
and interests.

 

Those who have already participated at some time or other, I trust you will all 
keep joining the sessions as often as you can, and that this recording of 
today's session will keep inspiring those who may attend more regularly. I can 
definitely say from my own feelings about it, we actually have very interesting 
and enjoyable sessions. 

 

Please download the recording from WeTransfer for today 25 August 2024 at this 
link. The link expires in 3 days from now:

https://we.tl/t-4KoCe8OeMk

 

Finally, here's wishing everyone a wonderful Krishna Janmastami celebration for 
tomorrow.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Windows Sound control Apps, with advanced audio routing

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

I sent the folder with the sound Apps links a few days ago. Did you receive it?

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Tirupati Gaikwad
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 10:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Windows Sound control Apps, with advanced audio routing

 

Please send me

 

On Sat, 17 Aug, 2024, 9:36 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa, mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Friends,

If anyone is interested, I’ve created a folder with shortcuts to the most 
important native sound control Apps in Windows 10. Very useful. I’m just 
including notes below so you can see what this is all about and why it will be 
useful, particularly for distributing audio to different audio devices on your 
system.

 

If you have multiple audio streams, from your screen-readers, music players, 
web browsers, system sounds Etc, and you want to route each of these 
differently, such as to headphones, to your system’s internal sound card’s 
attached speakers, to high-end speakers attached to an external audio interface 
Etc., then this will be extremely useful to you.

 

If you move this folder to your Desktop , it will be easily available in case 
you need to adjust your system’s volumes, app volumes, selecting which devices 
to act as default devices, listening to inputs received into the computer to 
select outputs on your system, and selecting apps to play to different audio 
device outputs when those apps do not have their own ability to choose audio 
devices, as is the case with the Chrome browser for example.

 

Normally, all these functions are accessible from different sound control 
platforms built into Windows: from the Settings dialog, from the control panel 
and from the system tray, so I found that having them all in one place is quite 
handy. So this is why I decided to make a shortcut folder with all of them in 
one place.

 

So here’s the brief notes below. If you would like this Shortcuts folder drop 
me a private message. The notes Text file will also be included in that folder.

 

Included in this package are the following Desktop Shortcuts. For the more 
tech-savvy among us, I include the executable paths following each application 
name. Notes are provided after each item:

 

1. Open Volume Mixer

%windir%\System32\SndVol.exe

Notes:

This App allows us to control the volume for each of the apps currently playing 
audio. Tab to and press down-arrow over the Split button to reveal the 
different audio devices and their associated Apps playing audio that can have 
their volume adjusted.

 

2. Control Panel | Change Sound Card Settings

control mmsys.cpl

Notes:

Here you have more control over "playback" and "recording" devices under their 
own tabs. The list view shows each device on the machine and a "Set default" 
button if the device is not currently the default device. The Properties button 
reveals further settings for the selected device selected in the List view. The 
Properties dialog  reveals settings under different tabs: the "Listen to 
device" tab, the levels tab and advanced tab Etc depending on the device being 
configured.

 

3. Advanced sound options App volume and device preferences

ms-settings:sound.

Notes:

It is not possible to reach the dialog directly, so the shortcut takes us to 
another Sound settings dialog, from where we tab 10 times and hit Enter to 
reach the App volume and device preferences dialog.

>From that dialog, we tab to the Input Listbox which reveals any apps currently 
>playing back audio. We arrow to that device, press space bar to select it  
>before tabbing  further to more controls, in particular the Output combo box 
>which allows us to choose the audio device on the computer to which to send 
>that App audio.

Remember if the App itself allows us to select its own audio device, then that 
will over-ride this function. Unless it was previously changed for the App, the 
output is usually set to the system default device, but it seems to be 
remembered when changed here, for future sessions.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] Windows Sound control Apps, with advanced audio routing

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

If anyone is interested, I’ve created a folder with shortcuts to the most 
important native sound control Apps in Windows 10. Very useful. I’m just 
including notes below so you can see what this is all about and why it will be 
useful, particularly for distributing audio to different audio devices on your 
system.

 

If you have multiple audio streams, from your screen-readers, music players, 
web browsers, system sounds Etc, and you want to route each of these 
differently, such as to headphones, to your system’s internal sound card’s 
attached speakers, to high-end speakers attached to an external audio interface 
Etc., then this will be extremely useful to you.

 

If you move this folder to your Desktop , it will be easily available in case 
you need to adjust your system’s volumes, app volumes, selecting which devices 
to act as default devices, listening to inputs received into the computer to 
select outputs on your system, and selecting apps to play to different audio 
device outputs when those apps do not have their own ability to choose audio 
devices, as is the case with the Chrome browser for example.

 

Normally, all these functions are accessible from different sound control 
platforms built into Windows: from the Settings dialog, from the control panel 
and from the system tray, so I found that having them all in one place is quite 
handy. So this is why I decided to make a shortcut folder with all of them in 
one place.

 

So here’s the brief notes below. If you would like this Shortcuts folder drop 
me a private message. The notes Text file will also be included in that folder.

 

Included in this package are the following Desktop Shortcuts. For the more 
tech-savvy among us, I include the executable paths following each application 
name. Notes are provided after each item:

 

1. Open Volume Mixer

%windir%\System32\SndVol.exe

Notes:

This App allows us to control the volume for each of the apps currently playing 
audio. Tab to and press down-arrow over the Split button to reveal the 
different audio devices and their associated Apps playing audio that can have 
their volume adjusted.

 

2. Control Panel | Change Sound Card Settings

control mmsys.cpl

Notes:

Here you have more control over "playback" and "recording" devices under their 
own tabs. The list view shows each device on the machine and a "Set default" 
button if the device is not currently the default device. The Properties button 
reveals further settings for the selected device selected in the List view. The 
Properties dialog  reveals settings under different tabs: the "Listen to 
device" tab, the levels tab and advanced tab Etc depending on the device being 
configured.

 

3. Advanced sound options App volume and device preferences

ms-settings:sound.

Notes:

It is not possible to reach the dialog directly, so the shortcut takes us to 
another Sound settings dialog, from where we tab 10 times and hit Enter to 
reach the App volume and device preferences dialog.

>From that dialog, we tab to the Input Listbox which reveals any apps currently 
>playing back audio. We arrow to that device, press space bar to select it  
>before tabbing  further to more controls, in particular the Output combo box 
>which allows us to choose the audio device on the computer to which to send 
>that App audio.

Remember if the App itself allows us to select its own audio device, then that 
will over-ride this function. Unless it was previously changed for the App, the 
output is usually set to the system default device, but it seems to be 
remembered when changed here, for future sessions.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Old age home or Retirement Facility? Congratulations all the same!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Paul Muddha wrote:

> Do you really believe in the next birth or rebirth life after death? >

 

You’ve asked me this before and I thought I had answered you. Appologies if I 
did not.

It’s not just that I believe it Paul, but there is now just too much evidence 
to ignore it. Doctors like Ian Stevenson and Dr. Tucker have presented tons of 
case evidence of past life memories. It’s no longer just a question of 
religious belief, or that the most extensively detailed, ancient Vedic texts 
discuss this. It is now becoming more and more a scientifically recognized, 
researched and investigated phenomena.

Do you not believe there is life after this one? What about life before this 
one? Do you believe you are conscious only now even though there is an 
unlimited time going back in eternal time? Why would you be conscious only now, 
never before, and never after this life? But this is not a topic for this list 
unless it’s brought up incidentally discussing blindness so let’s take this 
off-list and give me a shout out on my private E-mail, then we can discuss 
further.

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

I’m happy to discuss this with you if you would like to talk.

My Whatsapp number is

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2024 10:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Old age home or Retirement Facility? Congratulations all the 
same!!

 

Dear mr. Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

Do you really believe in the next birth or rebirth life after death?

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 06 August 2024 16:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] Old age home or Retirement Facility? Congratulations all the 
same!!

 

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe. 

Here’s my take on it:

First, I don’t have a problem with the phrase “old age home”. Just as I am 
happy to embrace my physical disability of being “blind”, I will get “old” too 
and that is part of life too, so I’m not feeling the need to shy away from the 
facts.

For me, neither does it mean that old-age implies doing nothing. I am very busy 
practicing bhajan in preparation for the next life. Is this not the highest 
form of activity for the living being? It’s far superior to old people who 
waste time trying to play golf with a walking stick! But even they are active, 
not idle anyway.

So I’m happy to call a spade a spade, although it would be a clever deviation 
to call it a “land tilling apparatus”!

With those disclaimers out of the way, and clearly so, the term “Retirement 
facility” does sound a little more on the executive level of language, so only 
for that reason, because it just rings well, I’ll call it a retirement facility 
for visually challenged people, instead of an old-age home for the blind. The 
latter just sounds that much more lame from a language perspective! Then again 
I’m English speaking from birth so others may not feel the same way about the 
use of language in English. Interesting to know how Hindi, Tamil  and other 
Indian language speakers will see it from a language usage perspective.

 

I’ll end by repeating: Never feel ashamed of your situation. Even close to 
death we may be passing loose stool in our clothing, while loved ones will need 
to clean us up. We must practice from now to feel dignified in all situations, 
knowing that we are not the body but the soul that inhabits it, and as such we 
are dear to the supreme Lord Sri Krishna, Christ or Allah as you may know him. 
That’s all that matters. The rest is just temporary, imperfect worldly 
considerations, and we all must get there sooner or later. Today I turn 48 
years old. Soon I’ll be half way to a century! It’s coming soon!

 

Regards to all

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Payal Ki Jhankar
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:47 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

 

A fabulous initiative, indeed. 

Have, I have a thought nagging at me since yesterday. Sam might call semantics, 
but it's still a thought I wanted to air. Why should these places be called old 
age homes? Today, people at 60+ are not considered old, and can still 
contribute so much. Somehow, to the mind old-age home brings up A negative 
connotation and feels like a place for people who simply want to live the rest 
of their years with nothing else to do.

Why can't it instead be called a senior living fa

RE: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Avichal wrote:

> In my humble opinion, it will not serve any real purpose and will just be a 
> euphimism. >

 

HaHaHa! A euphemism? Come on! Give them good people some slack for creativity! 
Be nice Bro! 

 

Here’s how I ask my sons to own up as to who farted while I home-schooled them!

Kindly oblige verbal ownership as to who has, over a perversely extended 
measure, expelled from the obnoxious rear hunk of their anatomy, an explosive 
thrust of foul effluvium that permeated the immediate atmospheric serenity with 
olfactory disgust, emanating an unmistakable vociferous reverberation?

 

That’s just a very academic, verbose and fancy way of asking “Own up! Who 
farted!”

Anyway I’m just messing around today. Y’all know me by now.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 4:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

 

The thought is good, but in my humble opinion, it will not serve any real 
purpose and will just be a euphimism.

 

On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 11:47 AM Payal Ki Jhankar mailto:paya...@gmail.com> > wrote:

A fabulous initiative, indeed. 

Have, I have a thought nagging at me since yesterday. Sam might call semantics, 
but it's still a thought I wanted to air. Why should these places be called old 
age homes? Today, people at 60+ are not considered old, and can still 
contribute so much. Somehow, to the mind old-age home brings up A negative 
connotation and feels like a place for people who simply want to live the rest 
of their years with nothing else to do.

Why can't it instead be called a senior living facility or a retirement 
facility?

Am I the only one who feels this way, or are there others who think like this 
as well?

Payal

 

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 10:42 AM, Misbah mailto:mishbahu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is indeed a wonderful project, much needed in present scenario. Other NGOs 
and stakeholders should also ponder it. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone





On 5 Aug 2024, at 1:06 PM, Amiyo Biswas mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

The amount seems too cheap to be true. Congratulations for the project.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 12:19 PM

Subject: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

 

Big news, please forward in your network. Information useful for visually 
impaired all over India. 

 

Old Age Home for Blind/Low Vision opening soon in Dwarka, Delhi.  

 

NAB Delhi has constructed first of its kind extremely comfortable air 
conditioned home for senior citizens who are visually impaired.  

 Applications are invited from those who want to spend the rest of their lives 
in this beautiful environment surrounded by a supportive community consisting 
of Care-givers, Special Educators, Therapists and expert Trainers.  

 

If you are visually impaired and above 60 years of age, or know someone who 
needs this facility then quickly contact us and send the application. There are 
limited seats which are being offered on first come – first serve basis. 

 

Note that contribution/sponsorship of approx. Rs. 10,000 per month is required 
from the resident or donors to maintain this modern well-equipped facility. 

Please call us between 10 am to 5 pm on weekdays to know more. 

Phone: 8826261166, 8595180427

   Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in <mailto:helpl...@nabdelhi.in>  

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[AI] Old age home or Retirement Facility? Congratulations all the same!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Here’s my take on it:

First, I don’t have a problem with the phrase “old age home”. Just as I am 
happy to embrace my physical disability of being “blind”, I will get “old” too 
and that is part of life too, so I’m not feeling the need to shy away from the 
facts.

For me, neither does it mean that old-age implies doing nothing. I am very busy 
practicing bhajan in preparation for the next life. Is this not the highest 
form of activity for the living being? It’s far superior to old people who 
waste time trying to play golf with a walking stick! But even they are active, 
not idle anyway.

So I’m happy to call a spade a spade, although it would be a clever deviation 
to call it a “land tilling apparatus”!

With those disclaimers out of the way, and clearly so, the term “Retirement 
facility” does sound a little more on the executive level of language, so only 
for that reason, because it just rings well, I’ll call it a retirement facility 
for visually challenged people, instead of an old-age home for the blind. The 
latter just sounds that much more lame from a language perspective! Then again 
I’m English speaking from birth so others may not feel the same way about the 
use of language in English. Interesting to know how Hindi, Tamil  and other 
Indian language speakers will see it from a language usage perspective.

 

I’ll end by repeating: Never feel ashamed of your situation. Even close to 
death we may be passing loose stool in our clothing, while loved ones will need 
to clean us up. We must practice from now to feel dignified in all situations, 
knowing that we are not the body but the soul that inhabits it, and as such we 
are dear to the supreme Lord Sri Krishna, Christ or Allah as you may know him. 
That’s all that matters. The rest is just temporary, imperfect worldly 
considerations, and we all must get there sooner or later. Today I turn 48 
years old. Soon I’ll be half way to a century! It’s coming soon!

 

Regards to all

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Payal Ki Jhankar
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2024 11:47 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

 

A fabulous initiative, indeed. 

Have, I have a thought nagging at me since yesterday. Sam might call semantics, 
but it's still a thought I wanted to air. Why should these places be called old 
age homes? Today, people at 60+ are not considered old, and can still 
contribute so much. Somehow, to the mind old-age home brings up A negative 
connotation and feels like a place for people who simply want to live the rest 
of their years with nothing else to do.

Why can't it instead be called a senior living facility or a retirement 
facility?

Am I the only one who feels this way, or are there others who think like this 
as well?

Payal

 

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 10:42 AM, Misbah mailto:mishbahu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This is indeed a wonderful project, much needed in present scenario. Other NGOs 
and stakeholders should also ponder it. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone





On 5 Aug 2024, at 1:06 PM, Amiyo Biswas mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

The amount seems too cheap to be true. Congratulations for the project.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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From: prashant...@gmail.com <mailto:prashant...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Monday, August 5, 2024 12:19 PM

Subject: [AI] Old Age Home for retired blind persons starting in Delhi

 

Big news, please forward in your network. Information useful for visually 
impaired all over India. 

 

Old Age Home for Blind/Low Vision opening soon in Dwarka, Delhi.  

 

NAB Delhi has constructed first of its kind extremely comfortable air 
conditioned home for senior citizens who are visually impaired.  

 Applications are invited from those who want to spend the rest of their lives 
in this beautiful environment surrounded by a supportive community consisting 
of Care-givers, Special Educators, Therapists and expert Trainers.  

 

If you are visually impaired and above 60 years of age, or know someone who 
needs this facility then quickly contact us and send the application. There are 
limited seats which are being offered on first come – first serve basis. 

 

Note that contribution/sponsorship of approx. Rs. 10,000 per month is required 
from the resident or donors to maintain this modern well-equipped facility. 

Please call us between 10 am to 5 pm on weekdays to know more. 

Phone: 8826261166, 8595180427

   Email: helpl...@nabdelhi.in <mailto:helpl...@nabdelhi.in>  

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[AI] Accessible investments or trading platforms with good returns

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

 

Many of us would do well with the opportunity to start investing money with
good investment returns in place. Some of us may feel more daring and may
wish to look into trading of crypto currency, equity products or property
shares Etc.

 

I would like to talk to any of you perhaps having experience with using
accessible platforms for investing or for trading.

I'm thinking of capital guarantee options if possible, or where guarantee is
not possible then significantly high long-term returns.

Even if not very clued up but you are interested in this discussion, let's
get together. Send me a private mail so we could set up some kind of
informal discussion on this.

 

I have some ideas to share as well, but would prefer to investigate the
effectiveness of some of these options. More heads are better than one, so
let's get together if y'all interested. Write me up.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Using split screen with NVDA or JAWS

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Saurav,

No matter how many windows you have opened, if you are busy between Word and 
Excel, Alt-tabbing once will move you between these two last opened windows, 
and the others will go further down the Alt-tab sequence. So it’s not too 
troublesome.

I think that by you trying to work between split screen windows is essentially 
trying to do a typically sighted thing not designed for blind adapted 
methodology. That feature is made for visual convenience, not screen-reader 
navigation convenience.

 

You can far more easily alt-tab to the Word window, copy what you need to 
calculate, alt-tab to the Excel window, paste it into a relevant cell, then the 
next time you alt-tab to the Word window you only alt-tab once since Word was 
the last window you came from.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 9:41 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using split screen with NVDA or JAWS

 

Hi sir,

So, I have to solve questions in my ACCA studies.

I have to read from a word file and accordingly calculate in Excell.

Doing alt tab or alt shift tab is not convenient or fast all the time as lot of 
windows are open on my PC at the same moment which makes that method slow.

That's why I wanted help.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 9:00 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Saurav,

 

I’ve never attempted this before so can only speculate as follows:

Using PC Cursor the window recognized at any given time by the screen-reader 
will be the active window.

It is interesting what exactly is the case using split screens with a different 
App window displayed on each split screen. In terms of the Operating System, 
the question is then: which screen is the active window? It appears the 
screen-reader will read from and interact with that window. I would guess 
further that since split screens were primarily designed for the sighted, there 
may not be a keyboard-driven way to choose a different active window except 
with the regular Alt-Tab. Whether this will switch active windows between split 
screens is an interesting question, for which I do not have an answer. 
Presumably you’ve tried alt-tabbing to see if different windows from the split 
screens change to the active window, yes? And what happened?

 

Still, you raise an interesting case for research.

But it does appear that you are asking here how to display both screen splits 
to the screen-reader as a single window? If so I can’t imagine why you would 
want to do that, except perhaps for dragging and dropping items using Jaws 
cursor Jaws key + Control + Numpad Slash.

Tell us more.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
] On Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 8:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] Using split screen with NVDA or JAWS

 

Hello to the group,

As the subject line indicates, I wanted to know if anyone is aware about how to 
use the split screen function of windows with JAWS or NVDA.

Basically, you can have two files or windows occupy each half of the screen and 
sited people can se easily both the windows at the same time without switching 
tabs.

When I did that with NVDA or JAWS, both were reading only one window even if 
the screen was split.

Please do help if anyone knows.

 

Regards,

Saurav Hegde


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Using split screen with NVDA or JAWS

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Saurav,

 

I’ve never attempted this before so can only speculate as follows:

Using PC Cursor the window recognized at any given time by the screen-reader 
will be the active window.

It is interesting what exactly is the case using split screens with a different 
App window displayed on each split screen. In terms of the Operating System, 
the question is then: which screen is the active window? It appears the 
screen-reader will read from and interact with that window. I would guess 
further that since split screens were primarily designed for the sighted, there 
may not be a keyboard-driven way to choose a different active window except 
with the regular Alt-Tab. Whether this will switch active windows between split 
screens is an interesting question, for which I do not have an answer. 
Presumably you’ve tried alt-tabbing to see if different windows from the split 
screens change to the active window, yes? And what happened?

 

Still, you raise an interesting case for research.

But it does appear that you are asking here how to display both screen splits 
to the screen-reader as a single window? If so I can’t imagine why you would 
want to do that, except perhaps for dragging and dropping items using Jaws 
cursor Jaws key + Control + Numpad Slash.

Tell us more.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2024 8:00 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Using split screen with NVDA or JAWS

 

Hello to the group,

As the subject line indicates, I wanted to know if anyone is aware about how to 
use the split screen function of windows with JAWS or NVDA.

Basically, you can have two files or windows occupy each half of the screen and 
sited people can se easily both the windows at the same time without switching 
tabs.

When I did that with NVDA or JAWS, both were reading only one window even if 
the screen was split.

Please do help if anyone knows.

 

Regards,

Saurav Hegde


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Preeti-Ji,

Your points are well taken. If someone prefers to eat with cutlery that’s 
certainly their welcome choice too, provided the implication is not that the 
alternative of eating by hand is less classy or shameful, as our modern-day 
culture will have us believe.

I’m sure it goes without saying that the behaviours such as licking the bowl, 
making constant slurping sounds and eating noisily are unrefined and improper 
human behaviors over-all.

When I eat mangos however particularly when they are nice and juicy, you’re 
going to hear the odd slight slurping sounds from me, but of course in fair 
moderation.

 

Now you have the right to scold me for eating mangos since you know I’m 
diabetic! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 11:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Certainly I agree with you! However, eating with hand / fingers can be refined 
and if eaten neately without soiling your full hand, then it is great! When in 
Germany, I used to get people around the table to cut up my food, that is if it 
so required, and then eat with a fork  or my fingers, which ever was more 
comfortable! And, there were many Germans who followed me and thanked me to 
have shown them the wonderful way  to eat comfortably and they reported that 
they enjoyed their food that way much more! The idea is to know certain things 
about eating neately and remembering not to put the knife into your mouth! That 
is all it requires.

Also eating with your mouth over full, eating with your mouth open, eating with 
funny sounds of slurping and other sounds, or picking up the plate and licking 
from it or putting your tongue into the bowl  and licking it in public  may not 
be not welcomed by others on the table, may it be family or business partners 
or colleague’s!

Just a few thoughts and sharings.

Warmly

Preeti

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

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Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
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Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & 
Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel 
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Sent: 19 July 2024 22:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal f

RE: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

BHAWANI wrote:

> What is wrong eating with clean hand? >

 

Nothing is wrong with it! The british came here and told us that we are 
barbarians if we eat with hand, and that everything about our culture, religion 
and social conventions are primitive, superstitious, unscientific and backward. 
They are wrong on every one of those areas. And the worst thing is that we 
believed them. Now, you have to even ask the question “What is wrong with it”, 
as if you’re finally realizing that nothing is wrong with it and nothing was 
wrong with it before after all, even though your ancestors over the last few 
hundred years believed the British and for so long became ashamed of our rich 
Vedic values.

 

Yes, there are a good few things from our rich Vedic history that became 
corrupt and polluted into modern-day Hindu culture, but that does not make the 
roots useless. We can fix and clean up the pollutants from our deviations and 
then there’s nothing unscientific or backwards or primitive or mythological 
about our Vedic systems. Two examples of these can be sited here: First is how 
the Varnasrama system became polluted into today’s cast system. Second is how 
the Sati rite of women to choose to die with their husbands dead body in the 
fire became polluted into forced murders of women unwilling to undergo the act 
which eventually became a forced ritual, thus polluting the Vedic rite.

 

I am prepared to logically challenge anyone who dares to declare that our Vedic 
sivilization is to be ashamed of, and I’m prepared to put my head on the block 
for it as scientific in every regard.

 

And to bring this back on topic, blind people, particularly Indian blind 
people, should never think they have reason to be ashamed of eating with their 
hands. It is after all a Vedic tradition, supported by ayurvedic health-proven 
scientifically verifiable health benefits.

If there is anyone here who can’t help feeling ashamed of it, then I will 
happily council you off-list. Write me a private message or call me to discuss.

Of course there are things we can and should eat with spoon simply because they 
are not solid enough such as ice creams and trifles, but that goes without 
saying, and doesn’t change anything. I even use the tip of the finger from the 
other hand to guide such things onto the spoon because I am blind. So what! 
Should we be ashamed for being blind too! Is it not bad enough that we were 
taught to be ashamed of our culture and religion already! Give me a break, good 
people! The only thing I am ashamed of is not being able to speak an Indian 
language, but that too was forced upon me since childhood anyway!

 

Anyway let me not get started here because if I do I won’t stop, and y’all know 
by now how passionate I am on this point. So I’ll stop here….

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2024 6:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, 
specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

 

What is wrong eating with clean hand?

 

On 7/21/2024 2:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

 

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat that with 
spoon! Not even at gunpoint! J Seriously, South African Indians have mastered 
the art of making byriani like no where else I have seen. And those from Durban 
are still the best at making it. My wife is from Guyana in South America and no 
matter how I  encourage her to make it, she does not want to take on the 
challenge to perfect the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night 
before and allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in 
a cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together with the 
required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven on very low heat 
for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and veggies are fully dry yet 
fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing clumps together. And that flavour! 
Man! Even though my mother is now aging she does a fantastic byriani.

And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South Africa 
to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my hand luggage 
actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing in his life ever 
before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! Aish! Now I’m going mad 
here just thinking about it!

 

Over and out! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effe

Byriani! [was RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick]

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Saurav wrote:

> And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand. >

 

Now you really got me started! Byriani, there’s just no way I’ll eat that with 
spoon! Not even at gunpoint! J Seriously, South African Indians have mastered 
the art of making byriani like no where else I have seen. And those from Durban 
are still the best at making it. My wife is from Guyana in South America and no 
matter how I  encourage her to make it, she does not want to take on the 
challenge to perfect the art. Apparently the secret lies in spicing the night 
before and allowing the veggies to soak up the spicing over-night, possibly in 
a cooler. Alternatively my mother cooks the rice and veggies together with the 
required spicing, then she tosses the whole thing in the oven on very low heat 
for 2 hours to fully cook very slowly. The rice and veggies are fully dry yet 
fluffy and not sticky at all so that nothing clumps together. And that flavour! 
Man! Even though my mother is now aging she does a fantastic byriani.

And again I’ll only eat that with fingers. On my final trip from South Africa 
to India in November 2022, the guy carrying my road food in my hand luggage 
actually stole it and must have enjoyed it like nothing in his life ever 
before. He’s going to hell for stealing that byriani! Aish! Now I’m going mad 
here just thinking about it!

 

Over and out! J

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Hi,

This is a very interesting topic that has been brought up.

I myself was going to ask about this on the group.

I personally think my table manners are okay but there are certain items I 
struggle with.

I cannot eat a pastry with a spoon especially if it is too creamy.

I will ruin the poor thing,  lol!

It becomes a kind of kichadi, my mom has tried to teach me how to break its 
pieces while maintaining its shape but my nervous system hasn't got it yet.

So then, if at home at-least I just chuck the spoon and hold it in my 2 fingers 
to avoid spoiling my entire hand and start eating.

I also struggle to make small pieces with my fork if the piece like chicken's 
is not soft or well shaped.

It starts dangling which is not a good sign according to rules of 
sophistication.

But I do agree that beeing too conscious will also ruin the mood, people will 
feel that insecurity from us.

And for eating with hand, there is a trend to eat biryani with hand.

Just my opinions.

 

Best,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 5:58 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not yours. 
His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to remind 
yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood experience to 
determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s 
what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and 
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your own choices 
against that experience.

 

Regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…

 

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of minalsing...@gmail.com <mailto:minalsing...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 20 July 2024 15:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [

RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Paul,

Childhood experiences like these can be hard to overcome, but it is important 
to reason what makes sense for our comfort and values. That team-leader was 
embarrassed that a member of his team did something that went against the grain 
of that society in an outside country, in which he wanted to show off his best 
conformance from the team.

People who feel the need to conform to out-dated society norms of our former 
colonizers doesn’t have to be come your problem, whether back then as a 6th 
grader or now as a grown man.

Please see his outburst to you back then as a child as his problem, not yours. 
His twisted agenda was being affected by you, that’s it. You have to remind 
yourself every time that you will not allow that childhood experience to 
determine your life now. Live and be happy, on your terms, your way. That’s 
what I would say to you. But it may take some practice and courage and 
self-reassurance before you start to feel comfortable with your own choices 
against that experience.

 

Regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 3:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

I remember when I was in 6Th standard we were in Germany and on one occasion in 
Berlin, I was eating with my hand and using spoon and knife

The leader of my team suddenly shook my shoulders and shoulded a loud that why 
I am eating with my hand and not using spoon and knife

did we not teach you to use spoon and knife in India?

A very bad experience…

 

 

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Same with me most of the time—I also prefer to eat with my fingers. However, 
for certain juicy items like dal chawal or upma, I use a bowl and spoon. Even 
with idly, if I'm eating it with sambar, I ask for a soup bowl, dip the idly, 
mix it with chutney, and use a spoon. If I want to eat the idly separately, I 
eat it with my hands and hold the sambar bowl in my left hand, drinking a small 
amount with each bite. Apart from that, I mostly enjoy eating with my fingers. 
One more thing I've noticed: whenever I eat with a spoon, I hold the bowl in my 
left hand, and if I'm eating from a plate, I hold a tissue in my left hand. I 
use to follow this way consistently.

Actually, I think we should do what feels right to us, not just with eating but 
in every aspect, whether it's clothing or dining. There is one thing I believe: 
we should always keep ourselves well-maintained, wearing neat and good clothes, 
being well-dressed, and keeping ourselves neat.

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon f

RE: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

People,

This is just my opinion and how I live my life. You don’t have to agree.

 

As much as I cannot avoid being blind, I prefer living my life being 
comfortable with what works for me, and this includes dining.

 

Mostly I use my fingers to eat. Whatever context I find myself in, I am even 
ready to announce: I eat best with my fingers, and it’s an art. I pick up rice 
with my finger-tips without dropping, which is something many who are used to 
knife and fork cannot do. (At this point I might chuckle slightly as I 
gracefully remove the knife or fork or even spoon from my plate.) So thanks for 
the invitation to dine with the team! Then I dig into that meal, with dignity 
and pride to eat with my fingers, smiling with confidence all the way, and not 
hesitating to contribute to the light-hearted dinner table discussions or 
perhaps business meetings that might occur.

 

To those who think I am below their so-called dignity, you like me, you don’t 
like me, because may be I look strange eating differently, then hey let that be 
your problem, but I’ll be cheerful all the way through. High-minded people will 
appreciate me for who I am. I’ve learnt through my life to be confident about 
who I am, and in the beginning people might resist me, gradually tolerate me, 
and eventually even love me for who I am. At least, those will be the people 
who matter to me.

 

Let me share my story at the bank where I worked.

I used to work for First National Bank in South Africa. I never hid my identity 
as a Hare Krishna devotee, nor was I shy about my blindness. These were both 
abnormalities in the predominantly African country where I lived.

Gradually people would notice me walking the corrordoors during my lunch 
breaks, or after work while waiting for my transport, softly mouthing the Hare 
Krishna Mahamantra. Eventually it became normal for them. Eventually some began 
asking questions about my belief systems, and even took books to read about it. 
When I was retrenched due to a decision from head-office which forced 5 blind 
people and 1 deaf person at back offices from around the country to lose our 
jobs, there were many who visibly displayed unhappiness at my leaving, with 
some of the ladies even crying when I walked out. I had to cheer them up with 
assurances that I will be fine and that I have God’s protection with me.

 

Point being for me at least which worked: Be who you are, be comfortable in 
your skin, so comfortable in fact that others will not help loving your 
confidence in your differences from them.

Yes you’ll get the occasional scoff, snide remark, or statements of lack of 
confidence regarding your visible challenges. Take those with a grain of salt, 
and look past them. Those will not make you, so not worth your contemplation 
anyway.

 

Do you know, eating with your fingers is the best method for digestion? It’s 
the most natural way, and we were created to do that. As your fingers touch the 
food, it promotes your salivation in your mouth: the touch stimulates by the 
temperature, texture and contemplation of picking up the food to eat by the 
finger tips. It also promotes digestion activity in the stomach in preparation 
for receiving the food. It is part of natural digestion to eat with our 
fingers. It is recommended by Ayurveda. It is our culture, and yes, the cream 
of the crop: it is comfortable for blind people too!

 

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nishant Rana
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 1:38 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Learning effective Dining etiquette’s, specifically eating 
independently, with folk, spoon and chopstick

 

Hello,

Should you or your friend find someone who is actually able to impart those 
skills, I would be very glad to hop on the bandwagon as it were, as I tend to 
dread formal occasions because I know that I have terrible terrible dinner/ 
table etiquette, and am bound to create a mess.

 

 

 

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 22:54, turab chimthanawala mailto:turab...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

A blind person in Mumbai wants to learn effective dining etiquette. He would 
prefer one-on-one sessions with a trainer or a person experience in this. And 
he will be willing to pay reasonable charge for this only that the trainer 
should be patient and considerate. Any leads in this regard would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanking you

 

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RE: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Udit,

Very sorry to hear about your experience. We also had a similar thing happen 
when we bought courtains and received rubbish in the packaging. We sent it back 
and did not get refund till today.

The lesson I learnt from this is that whenever the delivery guy comes, start 
recording video: which must show you collecting the package, opening it, and 
displaying the contents all in one disconnected video. There’s no other way to 
protect ourselves. Like you, I lost money. In my case it was 8000 rupees. And 
there’s nothing we can do but be very careful next time so that it must not 
happen again to us. Sad to say but it seems we just burnt off some bad Karma, 
both you and I. Or may be not such a bad thing because that bit of bad karma is 
now paid up!

 

Kind regards

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 3:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] a strange and a bad experience with me on amazon.

 

hi all,

just today. I got this from national consoomer helpline.

the rezult as follows.

Company Remark :
Dear Sir, Based on your complaint and on investigation with the internal teams, 
we find that the correct and complete product ordered by you was delivered to 
you as on June 15,2024 in intact condition. Accordingly, neither replacement 
order nor refund can be initiated. Further, it is submitted that our role is 
limited to that of an intermediary and we are not the seller/manufacturer, the 
products listed on our e-commerce marketplace are sold by independent 
third-party sellers. In view of the above, the issue stands closed. Thank You.

Remark Date  2024-07-17 19:49:46
Status :   Closed

now, what to do next?

 

thanks,

Udit

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RE: [AI] Why too many barriers for people with disabilities?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Shabash! Bravo. Good points! Fully agree.

 

 

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Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 3:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Why too many barriers for people with disabilities?

 

Dear friends.

I don’t think it is wrong to give and take the concessions for disables do we 
get equal opportunity opportunity as far as job is concerned, specially in 
private sector or do we get equal pay for equal work, compare to our cited 
counterparts? Don’t. Don’t our life expenses are more than our cited 
counterparts don’t we have to put more financial input to get the same amount 
of output as far as business is concerned? Do we get all the social security 
measures as developed countries people get? So I think. To give equal level 
playing field. Such concession should be offered. Those who are against the 
concession. Should also be against the reservations, which we get. Indifferent 
sectors of life.

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On 15 Jul 2024, at 12:35 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com 
  wrote:



The provisions of concessions is something that is offered to the community. 
Availing the benefits is to my mind is a personal call. 

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Shadab Husain
Sent: 15 July 2024 11:27
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Why too many barriers for people with disabilities?

 

It’s noble not to take concessions. It’s nobler to claim them and donate the 
money to disabled individuals and concerned organisations who desperately need 
monetary assistance.

 

While it’s cool to accuse organisations of misappropriating funds, the role 
played by them in giving strength to the cause and uplifting the blind can’t be 
disregarded.

 

Additionally, I’m of the view that each individual with disability, regardless 
of her financial status, has the right to claim whatever economic benefits she 
is legitimately entitled to. She also has the right to express her concerns on 
any issue till the bounds of legal framework are maintained.

 

Views are personal.

 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 5:19 PM Avichal Bhatnagar mailto:coolavic...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The only problem that I find with our community at large today is that we are 
eager to get all rights, but do not have any regard for our duties.

I feel that we must avail all concessions that the government has to offer, but 
at the same time must also ensure that we do not misuse or abuse them.

The scenarios given by Kanchan Ma'am are good examples of what I mean.

 

 

 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 1:42 PM Shyam Sayanekar mailto:sayane...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello, I fully agree with the views expressed by our scholars in this mail. So 
far as I am concerned, I do not take any concession given by the Government to 
the blind. I do not claim diduction under section 80 U, or rail way or bus 
concessions. I have not even applied for  the combersum disability card. Of 
course, this may differ from person to person. 

 

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 10:05 AM sagar Verma mailto:sagar.verma5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thank you for sharing your perspective on concessions. I appreciate the 
opportunity to clarify my stance and address any misunderstandings.

I agree that economic grounds are important when considering concessions. It 
makes sense that individuals with higher incomes, regardless of disability, may 
not need the same financial support as those with lower incomes. This helps 
ensure that resources are allocated where they are most needed.

However, it's also important to recognize that disabilities can incur 
additional costs and challenges that the general population does not face. 
Concessions for persons with disabilities can help mitigate these extra 
burdens, enabling better access to necessary services and opportunities.

I want to clarify that my opinions and suggestions are based on general 
principles, not personal circumstances. My professional credentials and use of 
technology do not indicate personal financial needs or situations. The 
discussion about concessions is intended to explore the broader implications 
and fairness of such policies.

In which email did I mention that I need a concession? First of all, I always 
pay for my tickets in full, whether it's AC1, AC2, or whatever is suitable for 
me. How can you be so judgmental by responding in such a manner? Whilst I 
understand your point, why do you focus on one's financial situation and what 
they possess?

Voicing opinions and comparing procedures is essential for the improvement of 
services. It is through open dialogue and the sharing of perspectives that we 
can identify areas for enhancement and advocate for fair policies.

I appreciate your advice and understand the points you hav

RE: [AI] good news for Samsung users. About there new product Samsung Galaxy Ring.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Understood. I asked because you posted it here so I thought you posted it 
because it is accessible to some extent.

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 4:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] good news for Samsung users. About there new product Samsung 
Galaxy Ring.

 

hi there,

for the accessibility feetures. I cannot say a thing about it. Because, I have 
not used it at all. But, considering samsung's approach to accessibility. I can 
say that it will be accessible for us. But, I cannot commit on that part. As, I 
have not used it at all.

As, of now, we can see the most work is being done with the phones. So, it will 
be accessible but still, lets waight for the product to come.

Thanks,

Udit

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RE: [AI] good news for Samsung users. About there new product Samsung Galaxy Ring.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Please tell us about its accessibility features. Does it use Talkback?

 

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Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2024 11:43 PM
To: 'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia 
Subject: [AI] good news for Samsung users. About there new product Samsung 
Galaxy Ring.

 

Samsung Galaxy Ring: A New Contender in the Wearable Tech World
Samsung has officially entered the smart ring market with the release of the 
Galaxy Ring. Announced on July 10, 2024, alongside the Galaxy Watch 7 and 7 
Ultra, this sleek piece of jewelry packs a surprising amount of technology. 
Let's dive into what the Galaxy Ring offers and how it might stack up to the 
competition.
Designed for All-Day Wear
The Galaxy Ring boasts a classic design available in nine sizes and three 
colors: titanium black, titanium silver, and titanium gold. Made from 
scratch-resistant grade 5 titanium, it's built to withstand daily wear and 
tear. Samsung recommends wearing the ring on your index finger, but it can also 
be comfortably worn on your middle or wedding finger.
Health Tracking Features
The Galaxy Ring is equipped with an array of sensors to track your health and 
fitness. These include an optical heart rate sensor, blood oxygen monitor, skin 
temperature sensor, and an accelerometer. This data is then synced via 
Bluetooth to the Samsung Health app, providing you with insights into your 
sleep quality, heart rate, activity levels, and even blood oxygen. The skin 
temperature sensor allows for features like advanced sleep tracking with a 
sleep score indicator and cycle tracking for women.
Smart Controls and Galaxy Device Integration
The Galaxy Ring offers basic smartphone controls. With a double-pinch gesture 
on the ring, you can take pictures or videos, or snooze your alarm. However, 
these controls are currently exclusive to Samsung Galaxy devices.
Competitor in a Growing Market
The Galaxy Ring enters a market currently dominated by the Oura Ring. While the 
Oura Ring offers similar health tracking features and works with both Android 
and iPhone, the Galaxy Ring boasts a longer battery life (up to 7 days) and 
potentially more in-depth data analysis through the Samsung Health app. 
Additionally, the Galaxy Ring's classic design makes it a more discreet option 
for those who don't prefer the chunkier look of some fitness trackers.
Pre-Orders Now Available
Pre-orders for the Galaxy Ring are now open at Samsung.com and select 
retailers, with general availability starting on July 24th. With its focus on 
health tracking, sleek design, and long battery life, the Galaxy Ring is a 
promising new addition to the wearable tech world. Whether it can dethrone the 
Oura Ring as the king of smart rings remains to be seen, but it certainly 
offers a compelling alternative for Samsung Galaxy users and health enthusiasts 
alike.

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RE: [AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Vevek Ji,

 

Thanks for your response. My disposition was aimed at giving solace on an 
emotional level to those experiencing the loss of the departed soul, by 
expressing the great opportunity ahead. Of course this does not take away from 
the challenges faced by those left behind. No doubt there will be situations 
like this where those remaining behind on this earth may face great difficulty 
on a physical level, particularly when the departed soul is the bread winner. 
My suggestion for those remaining behind however does not change. Our best 
option for those left behind is to turn to God who is the ultimate protector 
and provider. These days we have become doubtful of that protection, and we 
tend to claim it is an empty assurance not based on practical solutions. It is 
the lack of faith that in fact leaves us vulnerable. I will instead go so far 
as to insist that anyone who fearlessly depends on God’s protection will never 
go hungry, particularly when they are giving their time and energy in his 
divine service.

I am a typical example of that. I left my well-paying job in South Africa and 
came to live in the sacred land of Vrindavana India. I have two teen-aged sons 
and a wife without work experience who lived as a housewife only. Yet on coming 
here, extraordinary things happened over the year and a half that I now live 
here, such as investment opportunities I never dreamed of being possible. Now I 
live a life even equivalent to if not better than the standard of life I lived 
back in South Africa, and even without working. Not that I do not work. I work 
for God or Krishna by spending all my time in devotional activities like 
chanting Japa, studying scripture and associating with saintly persons. But God 
takes care of my personal needs automatically, most extraordinarily.

 

All I have said here does not serve to justify insensitivity from God-conscious 
persons upon the pain and struggles of others facing loss and death. On the 
contrary the need for compassion exists, but which takes mostly the form of 
sharing spiritual truths which gives shelter to the pained heart. It goes 
without saying that those close to the situation of those facing loss and death 
should show whatever form of support possible, be it financial, moral Etc, but 
spiritual shelter is still the best pain reliever and strength giver through 
any adversity.

 

Hope this understanding meets your good appreciation.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of vivek doddamani
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2024 11:25 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

 

Dear Friend Yamuna, I agree with you but our friend Sathguru has left a small 
daughter just 12 years old and a wife, now if I think of their life in future 
it is very horrible, I know Sathguru wife is also Visually Impaired woman, I 
agree Sathguru sole has reached heaven but a=what about his family here on 
earth.

 

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:25 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear friends,

First I wish to add my voice to the condolences for the loss of some of our 
active members. They will surely be missed by those who knew and loved them 
most.

 

Yet I wish to say something further that I hope will not offend anyone, 
although there is serious danger that my words might do so.

 

For me, based on my prolonged exposure to the Vedic perspective, there is also 
a special celebration when a person like one of us living in blind bodies 
passes from this world. The phrase I used “blind bodies”, though 
strange-sounding, is very real and not meant to be an offensive phrase. Since 
we only experience blindness of the eyes due to our conditioning within the 
bodily designation, we are imprisoned like everyone else by having limited 
material bodies, but more so when those bodies face blindness or any other 
physical limitation.

 

There is now many documented cases of Near Death Experiences (NDEs) or Outer 
Body Experiences (OBEs), where people who had specific disabilities on leaving 
their bodies experienced full unrestricted sense perception and abilities 
outside the body.

 

Can you imagine how exciting it must be to realize that even while they have 
just passed away, each of these people would experience the complete thrill of 
freedom by being fully abled-bodied, and far more so than an ordinary sighted 
embodied person on Earth? This is not just phantasmagoria. It is spiritual 
truths now backed up by scientific study.

 

So instead of diving deep into this topic, I will conclude by offering the 
thought that while we celebrate the work of those individuals on Earth, we can 
also celebrate their freedom now from the shackles of this blind physical body 
that incapsulated that soul for its less fortunate duration. We can, on their 
behalf, look forward to bett

RE: [AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Paul Muddha,

You wrote:

> Do you believe in Moksha or heaven after death for our souls? >

 

According to the oldest and most extensively detailed Vedic texts, the 
attainment of heaven after leaving the body is a result of pious work and thus 
the result of good karma. Living in the celestial heavenly planets means much 
more pleasures than we could imagine on Earth, and with a lifetime that lasts 
extensively longer the more we go higher up into the 7 layers of heavenly life. 
For example, in the lowest of the heavenly regions called svarga-loka, 24 hours 
of their time lasts a full year on Earth. However on the highest region called 
Brahma-loka, 24 hours of their time lasts 8,640,000,000 years here on Earth! So 
even when we talk of heaven, there’s not just one static destination, and also 
although the durations of life become fantastically long, they are temporary 
and not eternal.

 

I am inclined to believe that the heaven known to the Abrahamic faiths may well 
refer to one of, or a collection of, the 7 heavenly regions above us. I’ve even 
heard a thoughtful scholar suggest that Jesus may be residing in surya-loka (in 
the Sun planet with the Sun-God Surya as his father), but this is impossible to 
verify, although his speculative evidence from both the Vedic and Christian 
philosophies are somewhat convincing. Jesus may also reside in Indra-loka or 
the residence of the king of Heaven Indra as his father. I was defeated on many 
occasions when trying to argue that Jesus resides in one of the regions of 
moksha, namely in the Vaikuntha planets, so I am forced to put my hopes to rest 
on that one for now at least.

 

You also asked about moksha or liberation. That also exists as a possibility 
for each soul. However there are two main categories: personal and impersonal 
liberation, and those are very different from each other. Attainment of these 
regions require a lifetime, and sometimes even many lifetimes of overcoming all 
material desires, without even a tinge left before the cycle of birth and death 
between earthly, hellish and heavenly life is broken. Scholars argue that since 
Jesus did not focus on this implies that his followers are not guided beyond 
heaven. I struggle to argue against this, although I am instinctively inclined 
to hope that Jesus’s teachings could lead to some sort of moksha for his most 
sincere followers.

 

So the conclusion is that where each person will go after parting with this 
body will depend on one’s desires cultivated through life and ones activities 
performed which shapes one’s karma. Up to this endeavour in life, the highest 
attainment possible is only the heavenly regions. However  one’s attention to 
practices of self-realization and God-realization in this lifetime can afford 
such a soul an onward journey towards impersonal liberation and personal 
liberation respectively.

 

There is so much more to mention here but since this is not a topic of 
discussion for this group we will need to take this off-list in more detail. If 
you are interested further you can join my Bhagavad-gita reading group which 
happens every Sunday at mid-day Indian time. Write me if interested.

 

And I’m now realizing that since I tried to condense so much data into such a 
few paragraphs, I would have more than likely confused more people than 
enlightened them. Apologies if that’s the case.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2024 10:08 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

 

Do you believe in Moksha or haven after death for our souls? Mr. YJD?

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Shyam Sayanekar
Sent: 28 June 2024 20:06
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

 

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Hello, very thought-provoking. Very philosophical, presented in very remarkable 
English. I don't know about others, but at least I subscribe to your view.

 

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 7:25 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear friends,

First I wish to add my voice to the condolences for the loss of some of our 
active members. They will surely be missed by those who knew and loved them 
most.

 

Yet I wish to say something further that I hope will not offend anyone, 
although there is serious danger that my words might do so.

 

For me, based on my prolonged exposure to the Vedic perspective, there is also 
a special celebration when a person like one of us living in bli

[AI] The passing away of some of our recent good souls

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear friends,

First I wish to add my voice to the condolences for the loss of some of our
active members. They will surely be missed by those who knew and loved them
most.

 

Yet I wish to say something further that I hope will not offend anyone,
although there is serious danger that my words might do so.

 

For me, based on my prolonged exposure to the Vedic perspective, there is
also a special celebration when a person like one of us living in blind
bodies passes from this world. The phrase I used "blind bodies", though
strange-sounding, is very real and not meant to be an offensive phrase.
Since we only experience blindness of the eyes due to our conditioning
within the bodily designation, we are imprisoned like everyone else by
having limited material bodies, but more so when those bodies face blindness
or any other physical limitation.

 

There is now many documented cases of Near Death Experiences (NDEs) or Outer
Body Experiences (OBEs), where people who had specific disabilities on
leaving their bodies experienced full unrestricted sense perception and
abilities outside the body.

 

Can you imagine how exciting it must be to realize that even while they have
just passed away, each of these people would experience the complete thrill
of freedom by being fully abled-bodied, and far more so than an ordinary
sighted embodied person on Earth? This is not just phantasmagoria. It is
spiritual truths now backed up by scientific study.

 

So instead of diving deep into this topic, I will conclude by offering the
thought that while we celebrate the work of those individuals on Earth, we
can also celebrate their freedom now from the shackles of this blind
physical body that incapsulated that soul for its less fortunate duration.
We can, on their behalf, look forward to better and brighter futures for
them.

 

Many of these people were actively advocating for accessibility, inclusion
and other social and opportunity advantages for us. They had active natures,
so they will become very bored "resting in peace". I will instead therefore
not wish them a rest in eternal peace, but instead wish them a vibrant,
dynamic future, in which they are actively pursuing their hearts desire,
without the limitation of a defective physical body.

 

But more than that, I wish them the opportunity to connect with divinity,
and to attain a happiness in the company of the supreme being I call Sri
Krishna (you may refer to other names of the supreme, that's all well), for
that happiness in union with the divine is the most fascinating and dynamic
engagement, also with others in that space. Even if this goal may be
accomplished over time for some of us and even for some of those who have
departed but must continue the cycle of life, I pray that they will quickly,
by special mercy, show an interest in the supreme being, which is the only
way of overcoming the cycle of repeated birth and death.

 

While we may miss them as persons we once knew, revered and loved, we can
let them go, being excited for their freedom from physical limitations that
have befallen them in this body of being blind. Thus with saddened hearts
let us not fail to celebrate their good fortune. For me personally leaving
this blind body will be a celebration. I hope this is understood without
offense by all who listen to my words here.

 

Kindest regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Can the media amplify voices of disabled and elderly to build an Inclusive India?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

 those interested will again 
appreciate their rich and rewarding heritage in the form of Vedic life. This is 
why I am teaching Bhagavad-gita as a start to as many persons interested, and 
no, I will never charge money for the lessons, for registration or anything 
that might profit myself. It is simply my duty having been separated from India 
since 4 generations of my family, and now finally returning.

 

Kindly however revert to my purpose in writing this letter, to strongly 
encourage us to continue this discussion around disabilities on so many fronts 
as initiated by Shruti-ji.

 

Those who have been reading my posts over the last year will realize I have a 
weakness for digression, due to an over-active and fickle mind. Still, thanks 
for tolerating to those who do!

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of shruti pushkarna
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Can the media amplify voices of disabled and elderly to build an 
Inclusive India?

 

Hi all,

 

Sharing another article of mine on the role of media in amplifying voices of 
persons with disabilities. 

 

https://www.mxmindia.com/columns/shruti-pushkarna-can-the-media-amplify-voices-of-disabled-and-elderly-to-build-an-inclusive-india/

 

Best,

Shruti

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RE: [AI] Axess India WhatsApp group

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi everybody,

Even if our Admin wants to create a Whatsapp group, I appeal that we should not 
give up the E-mail mailing-list. It definitely has benefits to keep the E-mail 
list going because:

1.   It has a very long history;

2.   It is familiar technology on every platform and many mail clients;

3.   Things like configuring message rules for storing group mail, 
searching through old messages and archiving mailboxes is convenient;

4.   Mailing list functions such as changing to daily digest mode, vacation 
mode Etc is possible;

5.   It is a unique platform with its own feel and preference for many of 
the veterins and senior citizens among the blind community who have experience 
and wisdom we should not want to lose, which can happen if we drop this E-mail 
list method.

 

Just my thoughts.

All the best.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of sagar Verma
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 10:45 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Axess India WhatsApp group

 

Having a dedicated WhatsApp group for Access India is very beneficial for the 
blind community. First, many people do not prefer email nowadays. Second, voice 
messages are particularly useful for blind individuals. Third, WhatsApp is a 
widely used platform. Therefore, I fully support creating such a group, as it 
will be highly beneficial.

 

On Sun, 23 Jun, 2024, 08:54 Saif Sadar, mailto:saifsad...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Good morning to all,

As a group member, I want to say, It is better to creat an WhatsApp group.

Because, In every case an WhatsApp group  solves lots of problems.

Therefore I am giving my opinion, Hope every members should be agree with the 
matter.

Actually, I informed my opinion Hope consider the matter.

Best regards

Saiful

 

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024, 8:05 AM Rajiv Shah mailto:rms...@starpower.net> > wrote:

I agree with the other responses. We should have this group. I am more 
frequently on other apps vs. email.

 

Rajiv

 

 


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From: "Modi Meet" mailto:meetmodi2...@gmail.com> >
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 9:17:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Axess India WhatsApp group

 

agreed with above responses i also think that it should be create if possible

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:44 PM Padmanabham Muppa 
mailto:padmanabhamvijayaw...@gmail.com> > 
wrote:

Better to have it 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On 15 Jun 2024, at 5:00 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

In my view we should have a whatsapp group of access india

 

On Sat, Jun 15, 2024, 11:42 AM mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com> > wrote:

There are a number of WhatsApp groups dealing in Tech.

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Neha
Sent: 14 June 2024 20:49
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] Axess India WhatsApp group

Hello members, greetings of the day. Hope that this email finds you well. Just 
wanted to know your inputs about having an access India WhatsApp group.
As these days technology is enhancing rapidly and though people are responding 
to different queries via emails/chats, I also thought that it is imperative for 
one and all to have this mailing list over a WhatsApp group as well so that 
queries related to different issues/topics can be answered a bit quicker as 
smartphones have become very prominent. Whether it is android/iPhone and the 
use of WhatsApp. I feel it is necessary to have a WhatsApp group. Kindly share 
your opinion on the same, and if the majority of your agree, I would love to be 
part of the WhatsApp group , waiting for your eager response. Regards, Neha. 
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: [AI] JAWS License query

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Wow Guys, this is crazy. Why do they charge so much here for a Jaws license?

Actually even in South Africa we paid the equivalent of around 60,000 Rupees 
(15,000 South African Rands) for Jaws Professional. The U.S knows full well 
that our currencies are worth much less than their dollar, yet they want to 
mint us more than their own US Nationals. Still, sounds to me like bad business 
model because you’ll instead get more cracks going around the unaffordability 
space.

 

YJd

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nishant Rana
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2024 8:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS License query

 

Hello Akansha,

 If you can get the US licence, it is bound to be a lot cheaper than the price 
at which you'd get here, Home is fine for most things, pro is only necessary if 
you choose to access rdp and the like, as far as I can recall.

I am a bit uncertain if a pro licence is available in the annual pricing though.

 As to it's price in india, it runs anywhere from a hefty 7 to a lack, 
Karishma enterprises seems to not have them up as it's some sort of a national 
level secret or something, hate it when anyone puts up call for pricing, 
anywhere these days.

hth.

 

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 19:15, Akanksha Sharma mailto:techtalks...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Ajay, 

I've requested the Jaws screen reader software from my company, and they're 
confirming if the US license is suitable; if so, they'll purchase it from the 
US entity. Additionally, they're inquiring about the type (home or 
professional) and cost of a license if purchased in India.

 

Regards, 

Akanksha 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 6:47 PM Ajay Minocha mailto:ajayminoc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey - Jaws annual license can't be purchased if you are located in India. 
Although, the key should continue to work in India if you manage to purchase it 
from US (not tested though). Also, most of the companies do not let the 
employees purchase Jaws on their own due to tax and legal compliance purposes. 
You can reach out to Karishma Enterprises (the only official Jaws distributors 
in India) for license enquiries.

 

HTH,

Ajay

 

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 at 18:17, Akanksha Sharma mailto:techtalks...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone, 

 

I'm interested in purchasing a JAWS license for work purposes. Will a JAWS US 
annual license function in India, and can I use it within my company?

 

Regards, 

Akanksha 

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RE: [AI] Hotspot Clicker

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Yes, I use it with Sonar all the time here, mainly under Windows 7. Sonar uses 
the JSonar scripts which are connected to HSC by the developers so I never have 
to connect it manually after install but you will have to do so for any apps 
you want to connect to HSC. It’s not too difficult though but you have to learn 
a lot about how it works from the documentation. HSC is a very powerful tool 
though. Jim Snowbarger who wrote it is a brilliant guy – I know him and worked 
with him to resolve issues with my installation some years ago.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

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Behalf Of Shek Mohammad Ali
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 9:50 PM
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Subject: [AI] Hotspot Clicker

 

Hey folks,

Has anybody used Hotspot Clicker which is a utility to define custom keyboard 
commands for mouse clicks?

It is a quite older tool and if anyone has used it recently would love to 
connect  thanks

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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RE: [AI] Achieving Accessibility (A11Y): 11 Key Points for Creating an Accessible Websites an Applications

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Amena,

I read through your entire article. Well-written. I hope it will be passed 
around to developers as you are suggesting. Well done again. Folks this is an 
example of technical knowledge put to excellent use. We must support such 
initiatives where we can.

 

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Behalf Of Amena Kanchwala
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 5:56 PM
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Subject: [AI] Achieving Accessibility (A11Y): 11 Key Points for Creating an 
Accessible Websites an Applications

 

Hi everyone,

I recently wrote an article discussing 11 simple points for making websites and 
applications accessible. I would greatly appreciate your help in reaching IT 
students, developers, and early-stage entrepreneurs. As you may know from my 
previous articles, I firmly believe that accessibility should be incorporated 
during the design stage. Educating students about accessibility is crucial, as 
it enables them to develop accessible websites and applications from the start. 
Here is the link to the article:

 

 

 
https://amenakanchwala.blogspot.com/2024/06/achieving-accessibility-a11y-11-key.html

 

OR

 

 

 
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/amena-kanchwala-813545a3_accessibility-a11y-webdevelopment-activity-7205922512017199106-xz5y?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

 

Thanks and Regards,

Amena

 

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RE: [AI] Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

 for the purpose of 
connecting with God or Krishna, by following one of the four paths of disciplic 
succession going back to their founders who taught this knowledge about him, 
having learnt it directly from himself, Lord Krishna. Its founder, Srila 
Prabhupada, was a unique preceptor in one of these disciplic succession 
lineages, in that, on the order of his own teacher, he presented this knowledge 
in disciplic succession to the Western countries for the first time, which has 
also eventually made its presence felt keenly in Indian society also. So in a 
nutshell, that is Iskcon. Whether you fall into the scheme of things for this 
group will depend on your eagerness to learn more about Lord Krishna, about 
your own identity as a spirit soul, about Karma, Reincarnation, the ultimate 
purpose for existence, all of which as collectively presented in disciplic 
succession. Anyone interested to do that is certainly welcome in our group. 
I’ll provide an analogy for clarity. There are people who may love eating food, 
and they may belong to a group discussing and experimenting with all kinds of 
food. There may also however be a group uniquely interested in the taste of 
honey, and the various gradations of honey that may be harvested. The second 
group is obviously more specialized. You will have to decide how specialized is 
your interest in determining whether you wish to participate. Participation in 
our group is welcome by anyone remotely interested in learning about the above 
topics in disciplic succession, but who are sight challenged in that spiritual 
context.

 

I hope I have answered you satisfactorily. Thanks again for the feedback, and 
do let me know if you wish to discuss further to evaluate whether you would be 
interested. I suggest if we can speak more personally in case you have 
questions or even concerns about ISKCON that may be a more personal approach 
for you to express yourself. My Whatsapp No is +27 82 291 6081. I prefer 
Whatsapp because call quality is superior to phone calls for the most part.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 Harish

On 6/5/2024 6:38 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

 

Dear community,

 

On Wednesday 29 May 2024, a very pleasant and courageous Vaishnava visited me 
at my home for the first time. Isvara Puri Prabhu, like me, is totally blind, 
but I was surprised to learn that he has been living as an aspiring travelling 
devotee for some time. What started as a social visit for SadhuSanga turned out 
to be a discovery of many incredible shared interests upon which we wish to 
explore jointly.

 

One of these areas regards the establishment of a community of blind 
bodied/visually impaired  devotees world-wide. Presently he is hosting a 
reading session group for Telugu speakers, and now we wish to extend into the 
English speaking audience.

 

The following is a tentative program structure:

 

1. We have discussed Whatsapp as the most likely meeting client since most 
people already use it, and since it is also reasonably accessible on the 
various computer and phone platforms used by the blind community.

 

2. We will systematically read Bhagavad-gita from beginning to end, followed by 
Srimad Bhagavatam, Caitanya Caritamrta, Nectar of Devotion and Nectar of 
Instruction. Devotees who are able to read in Braille, from computer or phone 
text-to-speech may like to take turns to read to the group. Reading of the 
Sanskrit can be illiminated if the reader cannot read from their given reading 
platform. This segment will last for 1 hour.

 

3. We can dedicate time to any other topics related to living as visually 
challenged devotees, in which experiences can be shared and possible solutions 
explored together. These may be requested by group members for consideration in 
future meetings. This segment may last 30 minutes.

 

Examples of such topics may include things like living with visual challenge in 
a  non-devotee family setting, navigating to temples, taking help at temples, 
staying overnight, preference for on-line sanga due to mobility challenges, the 
future for those of us living without sight, practicing devotional service as 
our world changes, how the Vedic civilization may be either supportive or 
disadvantageous to living as blind devotees, navigating in a Varnasrama 
community being blind, and the level of acceptance and assistance from sighted 
devotees in the various settings in which we find ourselves seeking sadhu sanga.

 

4. The frequency of these gatherings are still tentative, but I propose here 
once weekly during a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or evening to accomodate most 
people outside of work and other commitments.

 

5. The conditions for participation shall be as follows:

5.1. The participant should be living with blindness, or have a very strong 
affinity for, or experience in dealing with blind people. Taking turns to read 
will be given preference to total

[AI] Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

 

Dear community,

 

On Wednesday 29 May 2024, a very pleasant and courageous Vaishnava visited
me at my home for the first time. Isvara Puri Prabhu, like me, is totally
blind, but I was surprised to learn that he has been living as an aspiring
travelling devotee for some time. What started as a social visit for
SadhuSanga turned out to be a discovery of many incredible shared interests
upon which we wish to explore jointly.

 

One of these areas regards the establishment of a community of blind
bodied/visually impaired  devotees world-wide. Presently he is hosting a
reading session group for Telugu speakers, and now we wish to extend into
the English speaking audience.

 

The following is a tentative program structure:

 

1. We have discussed Whatsapp as the most likely meeting client since most
people already use it, and since it is also reasonably accessible on the
various computer and phone platforms used by the blind community.

 

2. We will systematically read Bhagavad-gita from beginning to end, followed
by Srimad Bhagavatam, Caitanya Caritamrta, Nectar of Devotion and Nectar of
Instruction. Devotees who are able to read in Braille, from computer or
phone text-to-speech may like to take turns to read to the group. Reading of
the Sanskrit can be illiminated if the reader cannot read from their given
reading platform. This segment will last for 1 hour.

 

3. We can dedicate time to any other topics related to living as visually
challenged devotees, in which experiences can be shared and possible
solutions explored together. These may be requested by group members for
consideration in future meetings. This segment may last 30 minutes.

 

Examples of such topics may include things like living with visual challenge
in a  non-devotee family setting, navigating to temples, taking help at
temples, staying overnight, preference for on-line sanga due to mobility
challenges, the future for those of us living without sight, practicing
devotional service as our world changes, how the Vedic civilization may be
either supportive or disadvantageous to living as blind devotees, navigating
in a Varnasrama community being blind, and the level of acceptance and
assistance from sighted devotees in the various settings in which we find
ourselves seeking sadhu sanga.

 

4. The frequency of these gatherings are still tentative, but I propose here
once weekly during a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or evening to accomodate
most people outside of work and other commitments.

 

5. The conditions for participation shall be as follows:

5.1. The participant should be living with blindness, or have a very strong
affinity for, or experience in dealing with blind people. Taking turns to
read will be given preference to totally blind participants.

5.2. The participant should specifically have an affinity towards spiritual
life, but more particularly towards the Krishna Conscious way of life.

 

6. I'm still thinking of a short name for the group that will ring well in
English.

 

Anyone interested may contact me privately for further discussion. Should
you know any persons or groups fitting the target audience of this
invitation, please share with them.

 

With kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

Whatsapp No: +27 82 2916081

India Phone number: +91 70372 95962

E-mail: ykhan...@gmail.com

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RE: [AI] need help with labtop.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

But then will you not be copying the executable file and not the shortcut since 
at the file location is the .exe file?

For reasons like this and more I don’t really like Windows 11 much.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Gaurav
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] need help with labtop.

 

Hello,

 

You can go to the icon in the start menu, hit the applications key, and there 
you will find the more sub menu, assuming that you are on windows11. There, hit 
the open file location option, and you can copy paste the shortcut to the 
desktop from there using control c, windows m, and control v.

 

Hope this helps.




Regards,
Gaurav SharmaMy LinkedIn  

 

 

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:47 PM Dr Yusuf Vohra mailto:dr.yusu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

hello friends

here I have hp laptop. in that, I want to know how put any icons or softwares 
on desktop

with warm regards,?

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RE: [AI] Release of Standard Operating Procedure for JAWS Procurement at Union Bank of India and other empowering initiatives during the month of GAAD-2024

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Rahul,

Let me echo again my previous sentiments and those of others here.

There are many accessibility posts in both public and private sectors around 
the world, in which people hold lip-service office, enjoying the purks and 
rewards of such posts but  without making significant contributions to our 
community. Usually such posts exist as box-ticking exercises to fulfil legal 
obligations or empty marketing strategy, but  with little practical result.

 

You are demonstrating that there is hope against that trend. What needs to be 
discussed is how to fill such posts with determined individuals holding such 
values and commitments demonstrated by you here. When such lip-service posts 
are created and filled without the proper motive, how to have these exposed and 
pressured to characterize real practical value. Perhaps some strict criteria 
should be defining any posts related to accessibility in any public and private 
space. Just my thoughts for those empowered in the legislature.

 

Congratulations on all you do, Rahul. You are empowered by God Almighty whether 
you realize this or not, but all the same you deserve our deepest respect. My 
hat off to you.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rahul Gambhir
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 10:39 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Release of Standard Operating Procedure for JAWS Procurement at 
Union Bank of India and other empowering initiatives during the month of 
GAAD-2024

 

Dear list, 

We are pleased to inform the list about the release of a Standard Operating 
Procedure (SOP) for the procurement of JAWS (Job Access With Speech) software 
at Union Bank of India.

Union Bank of India has a longstanding commitment to supporting its visually 
impaired staff members by providing screen reading software to facilitate them 
in effectively discharging their duties. In addition to JAWS, the bank has also 
made NVDA (Nonvisual Desktop Access) software available to empower officials to 
work efficiently in Hindi and other regional languages.

This development is part of Bank’s broader commitment to digital accessibility, 
as highlighted during our recent Global Accessibility Awareness Day (GAAD) 
initiatives. These initiatives include:

· Conducting a digital accessibility learning series via email for all 
staff members of the Bank.

· Specialized training programs are being conducted for the visually 
impaired staff members with screen reader with the involvement of visually 
impaired resource persons, ensuring the training's relevance and effectiveness.

· Dedicated training sessions, complete with sign language 
interpreters, are being organized to support Bank’s hearing impaired staff, 
ensuring they have the tools and knowledge to excel in their roles.

· A comprehensive training session on digital accessibility was 
recently held for our IT officers, featuring insights from industry experts. 
This training aimed to ensure that all software developed or procured by the 
bank is born accessible, promoting an inclusive digital environment from the 
ground up.

The newly issued SOP aims to streamline the procurement process for JAWS across 
all branches and offices. The objectives of the SOP include:

*   Ensuring a uniform and efficient procedure for acquiring JAWS software, 
making it easier for all branches and offices to support visually impaired 
staff.
*   Providing clear guidelines on the necessary system specifications to 
ensure optimal performance of the JAWS software.
*   Outlining a step-by-step guide for the installation of JAWS, making it 
simple and straightforward for users to set up the software.
*   Offering a comprehensive troubleshooting guide to resolve common issues 
that may arise during the installation and use of JAWS.

We believe this SOP, along with our GAAD initiatives, will significantly 
enhance the accessibility and productivity of our visually impaired colleagues 
by providing them with the necessary tools and support.

Through the Union Access Initiative, inputs  from the community and with the 
support from the leadership of the Bank, we are striving to develop and enhance 
a culture of digital accessibility and inclusion in the organization.

 

 

 

With regards

Rahul Gambhir

Mobile: 989133

Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com <mailto:rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com> 

 

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RE: [AI] Sight Demo

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

I heard somewhere that blind people are allowed to make use of public transport 
free of charge along with an assistant. Is this true?

I’m living in Vrindavan, and would like to come to Delhi to some of these 
accessibility demonstrations from time to time.

>From my home in Pushpanjali Rukmini Bihar Vrindavan, how would I navigate to 
>the main transport line to take me to an actual venue in Delhi? Is this very 
>difficult?

My sighted wife can accompany me but she’s afraid because both of us can only 
speak English, so to speak to people to say where we want to go if we get lost 
is very difficult. Plus, we are new in India and don’t have a clue about the 
geography.

 

Will this be a significant challenge? If any one has any advice to share will 
be great.

 

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of george.abrah...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 1:01 PM
To: 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia 
Subject: [AI] Sight Demo

 

Hi folks in Delhi,

 

We have a private demo of the HearSight device at our office tomorrow 
afternoon. If any of you are interested in attending the demo, please do 
connect with me on george.abrah...@gmail.com <mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com> 

 

We have space for just 5 people. You would have heard our podcast on Spotify on 
HearSight.

 

Best,

 

George 

 

George Abraham

CEO

Score Foundation

17/107 LGF

Vikram Vihar

Lajpatnagar 4

New Delhi 110024

Ph: 011 45500380

Mob: 9810934040

Email: george.abrah...@gmail.com <mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com> 

Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org.in 
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National Helpdesk for the Blind: 18005320469

Twitter: @georgebhai

Scan & donate: 



 

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RE: [AI] Please suggest birthday gift ideas for visually impaired teenagers

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

If they are blind then may be a slate-and-stylus along with a braille sheet 
thickness paper writing pad, for taking notes manually.

 

Then again most would prefer taking voicenotes or memos on their smart phones 
anyway.

Anyway just a thought. May be an accessible smart-phone if that’s in budget!

 

YJd

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teenagers

 

Any other ideas friends 

 

On Sun, 19 May 2024, 17:24 rahul agarwal, mailto:rahul19...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

I think you may give braille or talking hand watch which will make one more 
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RE: [AI] CCPD issues range of directions to Ola Cabs paving the way for disability inclusive behavior by cab aggregators

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Amar,

Great work!

Your contribution to people with disability is certainly well received by all 
here, and we wish you all the best going forward. I’m sure nobody will fail to 
agree with these sentiments, so I can safely say I don’t speak only for myself!

 

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2024 1:37 PM
To: Accessindia 
Subject: [AI] CCPD issues range of directions to Ola Cabs paving the way for 
disability inclusive behavior by cab aggregators

 

Dear all,

 

On May 10 2024, the Court of Chief Commissioner for Persons With Disabilities 
issued wide ranging directions to Ola Cabs to make their services disability 
inclusive. The top points from the order are as under:

 

 • Allow users to disclose their disability in profile and conduct targeted 
disability-specific sensitization for its driver partners
• Appointment of an Accessibility Auditor and a Grievance Redressal Officer 
• Clear direction from the company’s CEO to ensure accessibility of all 
existing and new features
• Submission of an undertaking by the company to the CCPD for compliance with 
accessibility standards and mandating self-certification on an annual basis 

Ola Cabs has to submit a compliance report in 90 days from the issuance of this 
order, failing which the matter will be reported to the Parliament.

 

Detailed order is attached for your reference.

 

Regards,

Amar Jain

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RE: [AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi.

Very useful info indeed. Thanks a lot.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of Harshit Lohia
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 8:21 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

 

Hi,

Buy a standard USB keyboard used with PCs and a B/C to A OTG cable as per your 
android phone type. This shall work better instead of buying a 
wireless/bluetooth keyboard.

A presentation 

 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/159b9b460h78qtDdcp0ACzdLakZNS56fO/view?usp=drive_web>
  Using Android with keyboard Presentation.mp3

conducted by Bookshare India during Covid period is available with this email.

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:23 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

I’m anticipating a time shortly that I will not have access to a computer. We 
are moving into a rented home for some months until we renovate our newly 
purchased home.

During that time I won’t have access to my computer but would like to still 
read scripture and other texts, including my E-mails.

Normally using Jaws/NVDA and the QWERTY Keyboard, I read documents by line, 
using down-arrow to read, and things like home, end, control-arrows by word to 
carefully navigate through difficult passages Etc.

Contrarily, on the phone, I find it awkward to read by swiping to reading modes 
using Talkback’s granularity settings then reading by swiping. One slightly 
wrong swipe and it navigates away from the current line in the text. Therefore 
I’ve never moved over to using a phone for such tasks as reading.

How are you all doing it? I’ve never used the function but from the Talkback 
documentation it appears we can connect a keyboard to the phone and navigate 
text similar to how we do it in Windows. Since I’ve never had a physical 
keyboard for the phone I’ve never had a chance to play around with it, so I 
simply don’t know. But it does appear Talkback may have lots of commands for 
navigating text, would that be true?

If anyone is willing to discuss this I’m happy to talk also. My Whatsapp number 
is:

+27 82 291 6081.

 

Any advice will be very much appreciated, including what keyboard to buy that 
feels comfortable for us.

 

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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[AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I'm anticipating a time shortly that I will not have access to a computer.
We are moving into a rented home for some months until we renovate our newly
purchased home.

During that time I won't have access to my computer but would like to still
read scripture and other texts, including my E-mails.

Normally using Jaws/NVDA and the QWERTY Keyboard, I read documents by line,
using down-arrow to read, and things like home, end, control-arrows by word
to carefully navigate through difficult passages Etc.

Contrarily, on the phone, I find it awkward to read by swiping to reading
modes using Talkback's granularity settings then reading by swiping. One
slightly wrong swipe and it navigates away from the current line in the
text. Therefore I've never moved over to using a phone for such tasks as
reading.

How are you all doing it? I've never used the function but from the Talkback
documentation it appears we can connect a keyboard to the phone and navigate
text similar to how we do it in Windows. Since I've never had a physical
keyboard for the phone I've never had a chance to play around with it, so I
simply don't know. But it does appear Talkback may have lots of commands for
navigating text, would that be true?

If anyone is willing to discuss this I'm happy to talk also. My Whatsapp
number is:

+27 82 291 6081.

 

Any advice will be very much appreciated, including what keyboard to buy
that feels comfortable for us.

 

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

No you can do that (choose sound devices for different Apps) in Windows 10 as 
well!

Windows I for settings. Press Tab to System and Spacebar to select. Tab to 
Display then down arrow once to Sound and press Spacebar to select. Tab 11 
times to Advanced Sound Options, App volume and device  preferences. Press 
Spacebar to open it. Now tab 5 times to the Input List Box. Specifically this 
List Box contain all the opened programs that are playing audio at this time. 
Arrow to the one you want to change output device for, and then tab 3 times to 
the Output Combo Box. Press down arrow key which will change the output through 
the different audio devices on your system.

This is all in Windows 10.

 

Usually most programs have settings to choose output device under the Audio 
settings in the App itself.

 

Hope this helps.

 

YJd

 

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Behalf Of vadhimoo...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 5:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

Provided that you have Windows 11, go to settings, and then sound mixer 
options. There you can choose audio device for different applications. EG. 
Headphone to hear JAWS, Laptop default speaker to hear the WebEx call etc. Hope 
it resolves your issue.

 

Vetri.

 

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Behalf Of george.abrah...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

On Zoom, Teams, Meet etc. use head phones. Also while doing the audio settings 
select the head phones for the speakers. Your problem will be resolved.

 

 

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Behalf Of Mission Accessibility
Sent: 13 May 2024 13:34
To: accessindia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

Hi All,

 

I often have to attend hearings via VC on Zoom or WebEx. JAWS' voice carries to 
the other participants in the meeting. I have used the insert+space+v+b 
keystroke, with arrow keys. but that has not solved the problem. Please guide. 
The court administration often mutes me during hearings due to the noise that 
JAWS creates. I am unabl to refer to my notes or consult any documents in the 
middle of a hearing because of this issue.

 

Rahul

 

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[AI] Door plaque in print and braille

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

I'm looking for an organization that can make a door plaque in print and
braille, with the name of my home studio on it, and a short description.

Gaura Records Audio

Music for the Soul

 

And another plaque displaying the studio name and our house number on the
front gate of the house in large print viewable from the road for finding
our house, but with braille on it also.

I'm hoping for nice crisp braille dots preferably on hard plastic that won't
fade easily, but the whole thing and its design should look nice for
sightlings too.

 

Back in South Africa we had this sort of thing on each of the office doors
displaying the name of the person, their position and the door number. For
example my door was labelled:

Yogan Khandoo

Training Officer

108

Neatly and nicely centered below each other in contracted braille, all on
the plastic strip. Next to it was the print version. So this is how I got
the idea to do this at my home studio we are now building.

 

Any idea if some organization is doing this here in India also?

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done for the same?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

People may be soft-heartedly feeling sympathetic seeing us as blind. No harm 
intended. We simply accept their feeling of compassion, bless them from the 
heart and move on. They could do with some punya even if that is true anyway. 
Or at least they could do with some blessings from us for the help or facility 
they might provide us, blind or not as we may be!

Just my thoughts.

 

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Behalf Of Cauvery Krishna
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:52 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done 
for the same?

 

These are some of the experiences had by one of my  students of which I don't 
have an answer. Could you please help me.

1. Di, I am a visually impaired  MBA student, pursuing MBA from an IIM. I was 
with a senior at the grocery store of our campus, i waited as the senior got 
ice cream for both of us. The shopkeeper said, "inko bolo kal aane k liye, kal 
meri taraf se mai inko kuch dunga. Ice cream ya juice kuch dunga meri taraf 
se." Which roughly translates to, "ask him to come tomorrow, I'll give him an 
ice cream or juice from my side." So the question is why would the shopkeeper 
have said the same? I am an MBA student, I was wearing clean clothes, I was 
holding a forty thousand rupees phone in one hand and a white stick in the 
other hand. I don't understand did he think I can't afford a Rs 50 ice cream? I 
am paying the equal amount of fees but upon my survey he never said anything 
like this to any of the sighted or non disabled students. Why was the ice cream 
? For merely being blind?

2.  Di, one of my batchmates said, "how is the preparation for the exams going? 
Do one thing, come let me teach you, I'll get punya by teaching you." Why is 
it? Why can't people with blindness just exist? What is this attachment of 
punya if we help the blind we'll get punya? Are we humans or some divine 
entity. If you don't get punya by helping or teaching a sighted or a non 
disabled person then why punya from the blind? 

Please suggest how I can help my student, as clearly, she is in a lot of stress 
by these experiences. 

Regards. 

Cauvery She/her.

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RE: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

If you are using Jaws, try this:

>From Windows Explorer, press Applications key when the file is under the 
>cursor, then go down to Convenient OCR with Jaws and press enter. This should 
>OCR the file without loading into Adobe Acrobat reader and bring up the Jaws 
>OCR results.

A temporary solution I guess but it helps to save a life sometimes! J

 

YJd

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mission Accessibility
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 1:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

 

Am also struggling to use adobe since many months, with no meaningful help or 
solutions.

 

Rahul

 

Sent from Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > on 
behalf of kota prabhu mailto:kota.pra...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 9:50:41 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file. 

 

what i  noticed is that, in the latest versions, some time we get popup alerts 
by adobe which are not accessible to us. dismissing that message may start 
reading documents.  

we need to make several changes by going to adobe properties after opening a  
file.

opening adobe software first and then opening document through it may work some 
time instead of directly opening the document.

 

 

On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 09:06, Amiyo Biswas mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello,

 

If I remember correctly, jaws OCR was available with version 18. Press 
application key on the file and arrow down to the option convenient OCR with 
jaws, and press entr on it. Allow a few seconds and jaws should start reading.

 

If it does not work, then you should use advance versions of adobe acrobat 
reader or jaws.

 

Normally jaws reads any text pdf file. The OCR feature is required for scanned 
pdf files only.

 

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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From: Chandrashekhar Kulkarni   

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.   

Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 4:54 PM

Subject: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

 

Hi accessindians,
Hope all are fine and doing well.
I use adobe reader dc for reading pdf files on pc. But last many days I find it 
does not read anything. It says blank. I use jaws 2018. Do I need to do any 
settings? Please guide in step by step manner.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

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RE: [AI] A good news to share

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Excellent. Congratulations. Seeing the progress of our own people is always 
heart-warming.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:15 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] A good news to share

 

Hello Friends,

 

Writing here after a long time, hope everyone is doing good.

I am happy to share that I have been promoted to the post of Manager 
(Regulatory and Legal Support Advisory practice) in Deloitte USI.

My job would include working with Firm's biggest banking clients based out of 
US and other foreign jurisdictions to provide control testing support and 
strengthen their compliance framework.

Want to take this opportunity to thank all my mentors (whom I could meet only 
because of the mailing list) for all your support and guidance.

 

Regards,

Ajay

 

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RE: [AI] Whatsapp Accessibility (all platforms)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

I’m writing here some quick feedback on my discussions with Birla Institute of 
Technology And Science, regarding Whatsapp accessibility

 

Their research aims at presenting papers for consideration in future 
development, although they are not directly involved in development itself.

Their focus is on general user accessibility as well as accessibility by those 
with access challenges, not the latter alone.

 

We discussed how the acquisition by Meta has led to overwhelming communication 
chat, messaging and status-level platforms all into Whatsapp. This overwhelms 
also sighted and abled-bodied users as well.

 

Whatsapp for Android:

It was proposed by me that the problem of using the Voice Note button in a chat 
results in the screen-reader reading out the latest message while the voice 
note is being recorded, but that this seems to be resolved in the latest 
Talkback on Android versions.

 

Long press on messages could include Emojis as a function to choose instead of 
directly popping up the Reactions.

 

Access to Gifs and stickers could be made accessible by AI integration:

Images of people and objects could be described; TTS could be used to make 
images of Text readable, and a combination of these two deployed in AI 
integration.

 

Message Order: TalkBack reads messages in an unusual order, announcing the 
message content, profile picture, then contact name, followed by their phone 
number in a numerical format.

[I have not been able to replicate this from the chat window so could not 
demonstrate the problem.]

 

Whatsapp for PC:

 

Keyboard shortcuts assignments for answering and ending calls could be natively 
applied to the buttons for those functions.

 

Appologies for features that did not make it into this discussion. We ran out 
of time and a future discussion was offered which I accepted. I also proposed 
discussions with other interested Talkback users but was told they will 
consider for future but for now a selection was made based on the forms 
completed on their completed feedback request.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 2:10 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

This morning I was contacted by researchers from Birla Institute of Technology 
And Science,for a WhatsApp accessibility Usability learning session. Before I 
commit my availability date for this discussion, I thought it would be best for 
me to write to the group for feedback on your experience with Whatsapp 
accessibility on the various platforms.

I do not know the level of impact of this organization on the future of 
Whatsapp accessibility, so I cannot offer you any guarantees, but I figured it 
would be worthwhile offering feedback to a large institution dealing with its 
accessibility.

So, anyone interested in offering me feedback with any significant problems 
with Whatsapp accessibility on any platform, please send me a private E-mail on 
ykhan...@gmail.com <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> 

Please be brief and concise. Mention the following:

1.   What platform your issue is related to: Android, IOS, Windows or MAC.

2.What screen-reader are you using: Talkback, Prudence, Voiceover, 
Jaws, NVDA, Etc.

3.   A brief and concise description of the accessibility issue needing to 
be addressed.

4.   Whether or not you have found that the problem can be replicated using 
alternate platforms or screen-readers.

Please only discuss accessibility of Whatsapp and do not write with any other 
related accessibility issues. I will be compiling notes and cannot waste time 
with clutter as time is limited.

 

I will be deciding on available date for my meeting with them by tomorrow 
morning. Therefore any feedback from you must come my way by end of today 1 May 
2024.

 

Thank you kindly.,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Payal Jethra,

All I can say is you are very brave. I could never do this, and I am blind from 
birth.

I know of two brothers who were travelling by train, twins but fully sighted.

They were trying to get off the train and one was late so he tried to jump off 
but got killed doing so.

My personal opinion is that you should rather wait for accessibility 
improvements before trying this again. It may just be too dangerous. Just my 
thoughts though.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Payal Jethra
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

 

Hi All,

 

I travelled this morning from Ahmedabad to Mumbai Borivali & have been 
frequently travelling Mumbai Gujarat route. My observations-

 

* Since there is no way to identify myself as a passenger with visual 
impairment while booking ticket, there is no awareness/alertness amongst the 
team of such a passenger. 

* I got to understand from fellow passengers that there is an indicator/display 
that shows the number of kilometers to be covered. We wouldn't be able to tell 
otherwise.

 

* Until the ticket was checked, there was no way for me to identify attendants 
on duty. God to hear on the announcement that there are helpline number 
stickers stuck near doors. 

 

* Unlike airline staff, the Vand Bharat team is yet to be trained to assist 
with getting off. The train hault at Borivali station is only 2 minutes & I was 
lucky to have other passengers wheel down my bag onto the platform. 

 

So, when we do write to them  we'd want to keep some of these & other points in 
mind.

 

Regards,

Payal Jethra 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 6:29 PM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA mailto:bsvermad...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Concession is available in shatabdi chair car, rajdhani AC3 75% of the fair 
will be charged. No concession available in vande bharat, garibrath, 
janshatabdi, hamsafar and duranto trains.

 

On 4/30/2024 3:53 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

No concession on Vande Bharat, Shatabdi, Rajdhani trains. Concessions available 
only for Totally Blind persons. Please correct me if I am wrong!  

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in    
  On 
Behalf Of Radio Udaan
Sent: 30 April 2024 14:07
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

 



Hello Ajay and all,

I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to bring to your attention that 
there seems to be neither any concession nor any quota in seat booking for 
Vande Bharat.

I have taken the initiative to file a petition regarding this matter in the 
CCPD office. Let's wait and watch how things progress from here.

Best regards,

Danish Mahajan

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 7:25 AM Rahul Bhatia mailto:smartrahulbha...@gmail.com> > wrote:

No concession is available on vande bharat train as of now. At least some 
persentage of concession must be provided

 

On Tue, 30 Apr, 2024, 5:55 am Himanshu Ranjan, mailto:sudhanshuranjan98...@gmail.com> > wrote:

No, Duronto Express trains do not offer concessions to physically challenged 
passengers
but, Garib Rath Express trains reserve two lower and two upper berths for 
people with disabilities (PWDs) on a first-come, first-served basis.
However, PWDs must have to pay the full fare for this facility.

Thanks,

Himanshu.

 

On Mon, 29 Apr, 2024, 10:59 pm Mohib Anwar Rafay, mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I think Doranto and Garibrath also don't provide any concession for blind 
passengers. 

 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:43 PM Himanshu Ranjan 
mailto:sudhanshuranjan98...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi sir,

Vande Bharat does not provide any concession for persons with disability.

It just offers full ticket.

For more details you can check out this official PDF available on IRCTC site:

https://contents.irctc.co.in/en/Salient%20Features%20of%20Vande%20Bharat%20Train.pdf

Thanks,

Himanshu.

 

On Mon, 29 Apr, 2024, 9:37 pm Ajay Minocha, mailto:ajayminoc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone, this query is little bit urgent 

I wanted to enquire if someone has been successful to avail concession while 
travelling through vande Bharat trains

If yes then what is the percentage of concession that person with disabilities 
are eligible for? Thanks in advance 

Ajay

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[AI] Whatsapp Accessibility (all platforms)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

This morning I was contacted by researchers from Birla Institute of
Technology And Science,for a WhatsApp accessibility Usability learning
session. Before I commit my availability date for this discussion, I thought
it would be best for me to write to the group for feedback on your
experience with Whatsapp accessibility on the various platforms.

I do not know the level of impact of this organization on the future of
Whatsapp accessibility, so I cannot offer you any guarantees, but I figured
it would be worthwhile offering feedback to a large institution dealing with
its accessibility.

So, anyone interested in offering me feedback with any significant problems
with Whatsapp accessibility on any platform, please send me a private E-mail
on ykhan...@gmail.com <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> 

Please be brief and concise. Mention the following:

1.   What platform your issue is related to: Android, IOS, Windows or
MAC.

2.What screen-reader are you using: Talkback, Prudence, Voiceover,
Jaws, NVDA, Etc.

3.   A brief and concise description of the accessibility issue needing
to be addressed.

4.   Whether or not you have found that the problem can be replicated
using alternate platforms or screen-readers.

Please only discuss accessibility of Whatsapp and do not write with any
other related accessibility issues. I will be compiling notes and cannot
waste time with clutter as time is limited.

 

I will be deciding on available date for my meeting with them by tomorrow
morning. Therefore any feedback from you must come my way by end of today 1
May 2024.

 

Thank you kindly.,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

This is a very pleasant surprise. In South Africa we did not have very much 
inclusion like this.

Here the roads are impossible to walk particularly in the villages, but at 
least we have these pleasant surprises from time to time I guess.

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Sir, these many medicines also come with braille display example the tablet 
that I take for liver issues is written in braille and few other medicines also 
have braille written.

Thanks to the technology and importance given to Visually challenged in society.

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 29 April 2024 16:24
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe. 

Hare Krishna Rajesh,

 

All the best locating the product. If you don’t find it I could ask my wife to 
send a link to it on Amazon. Let me know. 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Reach Now
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Greetings yamuna:

 

Hare Krishna!

 

This is most interesting indeed.

 

I have never heard of this company but will surely check them out first thing 
tomorrow and place an order too. 

 

I also plan to leave a review on Amazon featuring my appreciation post 
purchase.  I also encourage others to do the same. 

 

As they say, there is strength in numbers.

 

I have always believed that reservations, promotions, special programs and so 
on for our community are mostly lip service. Only a handful of organizations 
are performing genuine work like this one. 

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Rajesh from Noida

 

- Original Message - 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:16 PM

Subject: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not 
off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hare Krishna Rajesh,

 

All the best locating the product. If you don’t find it I could ask my wife to 
send a link to it on Amazon. Let me know. 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Reach Now
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Greetings yamuna:

 

Hare Krishna!

 

This is most interesting indeed.

 

I have never heard of this company but will surely check them out first thing 
tomorrow and place an order too. 

 

I also plan to leave a review on Amazon featuring my appreciation post 
purchase.  I also encourage others to do the same. 

 

As they say, there is strength in numbers.

 

I have always believed that reservations, promotions, special programs and so 
on for our community are mostly lip service. Only a handful of organizations 
are performing genuine work like this one. 

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Rajesh from Noida

 

- Original Message - 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:16 PM

Subject: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not 
off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] Talking cash note counting machine

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

I'm looking for a talking automatic note counting machine. Price is of
secondary concern. Main thing is it must reject fake notes, it must flip
through the batch of notes automatically and count them, and it must speak
the results.

Any advice will be appreciated. Also where to buy from preferably on-line.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by rikshaw independently

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

I used to travel with a laptop bag with electronics in it, including a 
braille-me external hard drive, laptop  Etc. The fear was that if he thought to 
rob me and throw me out of the car, at the least they would have my last live 
location, even if they stole my phone also.

In South Africa crime is a big business.

In India they tend to scam people but rarely physically attack and rob them 
with physical force. Back in South Africa crime was hard brute force crime, 
particularly against Indians because we are considered soft targets within 
Black communities.

Anyway I digress.

 

YJd

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by 
rikshaw independently

 

The driver will not click on okay till he confirm that you have reached at the 
right place, don’t worry he will not leave you without reaching you at your 
exact location. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 6:20 PM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi,

Are they so considerate?

Because, the driver will want to leave as soon as the ride is over.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:29 PM Cauvery Krishna mailto:cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I generally ask the driver to drop me till the gate or till the reception. 

 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, 13:35 Aman Preet Singh, mailto:aps32...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Though I have not use this, but I can suggest you an idea. Whenever you travel 
with Ola or Uber, during that, you can talk to the driver and fix him as your 
daily rider, then he will knew that from where he have to pick up you and where 
to drop daily. After that, you can book the ride and call him and tell that I 
have booked a ride, then he will self take your ride and will come to your 
location. You may use this daily. But I am not sure this idea will work or not, 
I suggested you as I think. If this idea works, you may commute with Ola and 
Uber daily independently. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 11:15 AM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello to the group,

I am in college, till now I have had a fixed rickshaw driver pick and drop me.

However, I am considering Uber as a mode of transport to commute on a daily 
basis.

Can someone guide me how to commute independently using Uber or Ola and what to 
do when going to a new place?

For example, what is the approach when you reach that location using google 
maps.

We won't know where exactly the rikshaw driver has stopped the rickshaw and 
where am I supposed to go after getting down from the auto.

Add to that, there will be god knows how many and what obstacles.

Polls, tree branches, trash cans and our favourite street dogs.

Please someone reach out and help me by sharing your experience.

 

Regards,

Saurav

Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by rikshaw independently

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

You might need to go through a few bad incidents with not so nice drivers, but 
eventually you should get a pleasant and patient driver who will be willing to 
help you, particularly if he knows that you will specifically call him up to 
accept the job through the Uber provider.

That was how I did it while working back in South Africa, but people are people 
all over the world, some pleasant, some impatient, some greedy and others 
helpful Etc. You just have to go through them until the right one comes along. 
It’s a little like dating! J And I should know because I’m now married to my 
third wife which means I had 2 previous unsuccessful and very painful 
marriages! Life’s like that! What to do!

Good luck finding the right driver, and the right everything else!

Oh one important tip: Make sure a loved one knows you are travelling in case 
anything goes wrong. Send them a Whatsapp Live Location so they can follow 
where the driver is taking you at any time during the journey, so they can find 
you easily at any time if something happens. For this you should have enough 
data on your phone and also you can keep in touch by phone with the person at 
home.

When I used to travel to work with a new unfamiliar driver, I used to send my 
wife a Whatsapp live location and she would sit at home watching my journey. If 
something seemed strange she would immediately phone me. The idea was if she’s 
suspicious about what’s going on she would arrange help and follow my location.

Hope this might work also for you.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by 
rikshaw independently

 

Hi,

Are they so considerate?

Because, the driver will want to leave as soon as the ride is over.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:29 PM Cauvery Krishna mailto:cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I generally ask the driver to drop me till the gate or till the reception. 

 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, 13:35 Aman Preet Singh, mailto:aps32...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Though I have not use this, but I can suggest you an idea. Whenever you travel 
with Ola or Uber, during that, you can talk to the driver and fix him as your 
daily rider, then he will knew that from where he have to pick up you and where 
to drop daily. After that, you can book the ride and call him and tell that I 
have booked a ride, then he will self take your ride and will come to your 
location. You may use this daily. But I am not sure this idea will work or not, 
I suggested you as I think. If this idea works, you may commute with Ola and 
Uber daily independently. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 11:15 AM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello to the group,

I am in college, till now I have had a fixed rickshaw driver pick and drop me.

However, I am considering Uber as a mode of transport to commute on a daily 
basis.

Can someone guide me how to commute independently using Uber or Ola and what to 
do when going to a new place?

For example, what is the approach when you reach that location using google 
maps.

We won't know where exactly the rikshaw driver has stopped the rickshaw and 
where am I supposed to go after getting down from the auto.

Add to that, there will be god knows how many and what obstacles.

Polls, tree branches, trash cans and our favourite street dogs.

Please someone reach out and help me by sharing your experience.

 

Regards,

Saurav

Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Priti,

It is Insert T not Control T.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:39 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Control plus T is not saying the name of the brouzer. Please help?

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!

 

 

Mobile : 91 9871701646

E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

Website : www.silver-linings.org  

Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
POSH.

 

Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & 
Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel 
facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings)

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 24 April 2024 07:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hello,

 

You must have found the list of running applications in task manager. Just 
press application key on an item and arrow down to the end task option. If you 
activate it by pressing enter, the application will be closed.

 

As regards closing a tab on a browser, ctrl+f4 should work.

 

Why can't you follow the name of the browser? Insert+t always announces the 
name of the browser after the title of the page?

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

- Original Message - 

From: Preeti Monga   

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 10:56 AM

Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Nothing is working! How do I know what brouzer I am using for the same please 
help? Also task manager also does not show end programme! What am I doing 
wrong? I am using windows 11 and jaws 23

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!

 

 

Mobile : 91 9871701646

E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

Website : www.silver-linings.org  

Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
POSH.

 

Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & 
Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel 
facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings)

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Aparna Sachdev
Sent: 22 April 2024 12:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hi
What browser are you on? Control + W or control + f4 should help. Also, I 
notice its tabs you want to close, not the entire browser window, in which case 
alt + f4 won't help - it'll close the entire browser window, all tabs at once. 
Best,
Aparna



On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:17 PM Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

Have done both but cant close the tabb with anything what should I do? Please 
do help

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!

 

 

Mobile : 91 9871701646

E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

Website : www.silver-linings.org  

Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
POSH.

 

Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & 
Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel 
facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings)

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
] On Behalf Of Ragib Nadim
Sent: 21 April 2024 18:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hi Madam plz press window plus T for task bar or alt ctrl del for task manager.

 

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024, 16:36 Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

How do I open task bar?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Apr 21, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Ragib Nadim mailto:ragibnadi...@gmail.com> > wrote:



madam open task bar and close a

RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief Manager for the Union Access Project.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Rahul,

I am humbled that you specifically went through each person’s congratulatory 
message and acknowledged them each in turn.

I have never met you, but I observe qualities in you that make a true leader in 
deed. The bank has done well in empowering one who truly cares for others. This 
is incredible. May your successes continue to benefit you personally along with 
all you serve, and may at the end of your life on earth, you be gifted in the 
next in ways that will leave you in total disbelief with happiness.

 

Warm regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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Behalf Of rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 9:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Dear List,

I wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for the personal 
phone calls and heartfelt congratulations I received, both on our mailing list 
and directly, regarding my recent appointment as Chief Manager for the Union 
Access Project at Union bank of India.

To Harish sir: Your warm greetings and wishes mean a lot to me. Thank you for 
always being there whenever we need your guidance and support.

To the Radio Udaan Team: Your recognition is truly motivating. I look forward 
to possible collaborations and your continued support in our journey of 
inclusive banking.

To Ajay Arora: Your recognition of my dedication is truly appreciated. Thank 
you for your encouragement.

To Sushmeetha Ma’am: Your heartfelt congratulations mean a lot to me. Thank you 
for your encouragement, and I look forward to working with you in one of the 
areas that we initiated, which is still in progress.

To Asif: Your acknowledgment of my hard work is deeply appreciated. Thank you 
for your warm wishes.

To Mr. Paul: Your congratulations and support mean a lot to me. I extend my 
heartfelt wishes to you on your elevation and wish you good luck in your new 
role. 

To Yamuna Jivana Dasa and Muhammad Mishbahul: I am grateful for your warm 
congratulations and support. Thank you for your kind words.

To Sourabh: I appreciate your curiosity and look forward to discussing 
accessibility programs with you soon. Thank you for your interest.

To Sona Suresh: Your congratulations and kind words are inspiring. Thank you 
for your support.

To Khandu Bhandare: Your heartfelt congratulations and kind words are deeply 
appreciated. Having your support and encouragement means a great deal to me. 
It's been a pleasure collaborating with you in the past, and I thoroughly 
enjoyed working with you. Your efforts in empowerment through training programs 
are commendable. Through more than 70 training programs, you have empowered 
thousands of bank employees, and your dedication to this cause is truly 
inspiring. 

A special note of appreciation goes to Prashant Naik for not only sharing this 
news with our mailing list but also for his continuous guidance and support 
throughout our journey of making banking inclusive and convenient for everyone.

As I step into this new role, I am filled with excitement and a strong sense of 
purpose. I look forward to continuing our collaborative efforts to create 
positive change and ensure inclusivity in banking services. I am grateful to 
have such an incredible network of individuals cheering me on.

Thank you all once again, and please pardon me if I may have missed any names 
in my expressions of gratitude.

 

 

 

With regards

Rahul Gambhir

Mobile: 989133

Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com <mailto:rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com> 

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Khandu Bhandare
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2024 17:40
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Dear Rahul,

 

I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to extend my 
heartfelt congratulations on your recent elevation to the position of Chief 
Manager at CM Union Access. This is truly a remarkable achievement and a 
testament to your dedication, hard work, and exemplary leadership skills.

 

Having known you since 2017, I have witnessed firsthand your unwavering 
commitment to the betterment of persons with disabilities. Your passion for 
creating a more inclusive environment and your tireless efforts in advocating 
for their rights have always been inspiring. Your cool, calm demeanor coupled 
with your strong work ethic has undoubtedly contributed to your success and 
earned you the respect of your peers and colleagues.

 

Your promotion to Chief Manager is not only well-deserved but also a testament 
to your capabilities and the confidence that 

RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Pranav,

That’s nice to know. It always gives me a good feeling when I see these things. 
Perhaps sentimental on my part, but hey it is what it is.

 

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 3:11 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi Yamuna Jivana dasa,

 

I have found Braille on some handwashing liquid soap as well.

 

Pranav

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RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Preeti

When closing a document window of an application containing multiple instances, 
like the browser with multiple tabs, you might try pressing Control F4 if not 
also try Alt W or Control W in some programs. Your best bet is Control F4. 
Often it will lose focus so that you will need to press Alt Tab to get back to 
the Application, in this case your browser, where you will see then next opened 
browser tab. Another hint is you can press Control Tab to cycle between opened 
tabs.

Give me a call if you’re stuck. We had a great discussion last time, may be now 
I might have the honour of helping you this time.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 12:15 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

I have opened the task bar as you said but it says linkedin running and press 
space. I do that and it goes to the linkedin and so how do I close all running 
tabs?

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

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Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ragib Nadim
Sent: 21 April 2024 11:34
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

madam open task bar and close all the tabs.

 

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 13:47 Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

Hi friends I am stuck again. Thank you for helping me with the volume!

I can open tabs on the net just like before like linkedin, blog etc.

But these do not close with the alt f4.

What should I do

Warmly

Preeti

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

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Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
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RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief Manager for the Union Access Project.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Always wonderful to hear such news. Congratulations and may we see more of this 
across the employment of talented and passionate people with disabilities in 
the workplace.

Warm regards

YJd

 

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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Prashant Naik 
Subject: Re: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Hi

A well deserved promotion.

My warm greetings and wishes to move still higher

Harish

 

On 4/21/2024 2:51 PM, Prashant Naik wrote:

Dear List 

 

I am delighted to inform you that Rahul Gambhir has been appointed as the Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project at Union Bank of India, effective from 
22nd April 2024.  The Union Access project is dedicated to implementing digital 
accessibility in the bank.  This appointment is a testament to his exceptional 
qualities and unwavering passion for inclusivity. His dedication to 
accessibility aligns perfectly with the bank's commitment to providing 
accessible banking services to all. His leadership will undoubtedly enable to 
take significant strides towards achieving accessibility maturity goals.
Heartfelt congratulations Rahul on this well-deserved appointment.

 

Thanks & Regards 

Prashant Naik

 

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RE: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

I fully agree with these sentiments. Just wanted to support and echo Ravi 
Paul’s view.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Ravi Paul
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:29 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Hey there,

I'm sure this news is appreciated by those who use this application. Who knows, 
I might consider installing the app and making use of it myself. However, just 
a friendly suggestion. I noted you have obviously made use of Chat GPT or some 
such tool to draft your mail. We know how useful these tools are so I'll not 
say anything on that. I would merely urge you to consider editing out stuff 
that doesn't add to what we already know, or is not of any benefit to read, 
such as:

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services. The enhanced 
accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to access the 
application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing their 
overall user experience. We believe that technology should be inclusive and 
empower everyone, regardless of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's 
dedication to creating an accessible platform for all its users. We encourage 
visually impaired community members to update their Airtel application and 
explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is essential, and we 
welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further improve 
accessibility. 

I just think it unnecessarily adds to the length of the message without adding 
any substance to it. I really hope all that make use of these tool will take 
this appeal in the right spirit and implement this suggestion. It's your choice 
to use it by all means, but just consider editing out parts that don't add 
anything to what we already know.

 

On 14-04-2024 10:01, irfan mir wrote:Regards, Ravi

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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[AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Reading PDF Tables with Screen-reader virtual cursor

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

For years now I’ve noticed that reading PDF tables is a huge problem. While 
navigating inside a table, if let’s say the column headers is the top row, then 
it reads those correctly if we move from cell to cell with Control, Alt, Arrows.

But if we go down to the second row, where the actual data for the table 
begins, then let’s say we are in the second row, first column on the left. The 
screen-reader will read all the cells down that column as if it was all part of 
the first left cell being read. This makes understanding the table data 
impossible relative to the rows and columns to which the cell contents belong.

 

I’m not sure about those of you using NVDA in Browse mode, but even up until 
Jaws 2024 this problem hasn’t gone away while reading with Virtual PC Cursor.

 

Any thoughts on this will beappreciated.

Have a great day.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 12:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Namaskar!

 

Yes, the app is behaving well now. 90% or less, I won't comment, but out of 4 
tabs the App is having, the one "manage" is working really good now. the other 
3, namely "Pay", "Shop" and "Help" still need improvements with screen reader 
access. I won't use big words like "Dedication", "commitment" etc because the 
App was not that crap about 3 years back, it was usable then. Why Airtel made 
App functionality like nightmare in first place? And it's because of us many 
people's  constant efforts through various channels that Airtel felt to take 
this step. It took about 3 years for this realization. Though, step is taken 
towards desirable direction, we should wait and see for some time before making 
any such asumption like dedication for inclusivity for all, and so on and so 
forth.

 

Vande Mataram

 

- Original Message - 

From: irfan mir <mailto:mirirfan1...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:01 AM

Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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RE: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Well just to clarify, my show of gratitude lies really with the folks here at 
Access India, for putting pressure on Airtel to fix what they broke, not to 
Airtel themselves.

Clearly there are some of you here who are really empowered to effect positive 
change, and for that we are all surely grateful.

 

Kind regards

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 12:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Namaskar!

 

Yes, the app is behaving well now. 90% or less, I won't comment, but out of 4 
tabs the App is having, the one "manage" is working really good now. the other 
3, namely "Pay", "Shop" and "Help" still need improvements with screen reader 
access. I won't use big words like "Dedication", "commitment" etc because the 
App was not that crap about 3 years back, it was usable then. Why Airtel made 
App functionality like nightmare in first place? And it's because of us many 
people's  constant efforts through various channels that Airtel felt to take 
this step. It took about 3 years for this realization. Though, step is taken 
towards desirable direction, we should wait and see for some time before making 
any such asumption like dedication for inclusivity for all, and so on and so 
forth.

 

Vande Mataram

 

- Original Message - 

From: irfan mir <mailto:mirirfan1...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:01 AM

Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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RE: [AI] Following Crypto and other voletile investment charts

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

If there is anyone here investing or trading into Crypto or other investment 
portfolios, how do you follow the markets and know when to buy or sell stocks 
or currency Etc.? Can our screen-readers help us here or do you use sighted 
help?

It would be nice to find out that we might have some sort of financial 
independence with making sound investment and trading decisions.

I am happy to discuss by phone or off-line if necessary also.

 

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sourabh Yadav
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 10:50 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] YOUTUBE link of Badalta Daur: Financial Independence for 
People with Disabilities

 

This is a very important topic for all the VIP community and otherwise as well.

Great work Radio Udaan team! 

 

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024, 20:21 Radio Udaan, mailto:radioud...@gmail.com> > wrote:

YOUTUBE link of Badalta Daur: Financial Independence for People with 
Disabilities
https://youtu.be/KTKJcPZT4WY

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RE: [AI] Confirming! Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Excellent! Bravo! Seems you’re right! I just opened the app and I see it no 
longer shows the rubbish code to Talkback as I demonstrated from the past. Now 
we’re seeing actual meaningful links, tabs Etc.

I need to explore further but just saw this minutes ago and wanted to confirm 
the excitement. More when I play with it further.

Thanks again everyone who were talented in various ways to get involved.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of irfan mir
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians,

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users.

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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RE: [AI] Fwd: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Thanks for this effort. Kindly note my responses having submitted the form. 
Thank you very much. I’ll help wherever I can.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo is my legal name registered on form).

 

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Subject: [AI] Fwd: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp

 

 

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Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 7:40 PM
Subject: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp
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Respected Sir/Ma'am

 

We hope this email finds you well. As part of our ongoing research on 
accessibility, we are inviting you to participate in a study focused on 
WhatsApp usability for individuals with visual impairments.

 

You may also choose to access this invitation through the audio attachment of 
the email.

 

WhatsApp has become an essential tool for communication and connection in 
today's world. However, we recognize that individuals with visual impairments 
may face unique challenges in using the platform. As researchers, we are 
committed to understanding these challenges and improving accessibility for all 
users. Currently, there are limited insights available about WhatsApp 
accessibility for individuals with visual impairments. Your participation in 
this study will help us gain valuable insights into the usability of WhatsApp 
in your day-to-day life.

 

We have created a short survey to gather initial insights and understand your 
experiences with WhatsApp. Your responses will remain confidential, and your 
input will play a crucial role in shaping our research efforts.

 

Survey Link: 
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1leU2Lwl-KMHwr_muTTlNGsNFvZXzi8OtJzCS6AbhR1c/edit

 

We also encourage you to share this invitation with any friends, family 
members, or contacts who may have insights or experiences related to WhatsApp 
accessibility. Collaboration with both sighted and non-sighted users is 
essential for us to gain a comprehensive understanding of accessibility issues.

 

If you prefer to discuss your experiences verbally or have any questions about 
the study, please feel free to reach out to us directly. Thank you for 
considering our invitation to participate in this important study. Your 
contribution will make a significant difference in advancing accessibility for 
all users of WhatsApp.

 

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RE: [AI] Take advantage of Our Free Online Event on PDF Remediation Software.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Ouch this will start at 10:30 PM Indian time and the last session starts at 1 
AM tomorrow morning for us!

Anyone attending here? I’m always interested around the problems we face with 
PDF files, particularly dealing with PDF tables which tend to read a whole row 
or column when moving to a single table cell in browse mode/Virtual cursor. 
Technically, I’ve never understood why they have not managed to fix this over 
many years, even while HTML content works fine in tables.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nikhil Kukde
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 12:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Take advantage of Our Free Online Event on PDF Remediation 
Software.

 

Hello All.

 

Join us tomorrow, Tuesday, April 9th, at 1 PM ET, for our free online event on 
PDF Remediation Software.

 

The event includes four informative presentations on PDF Remediation Software 
and allows you to interact with several companies in the virtual Expo Hall.

 

This is your opportunity to explore several different aspects of PDF 
remediation software and several platforms, plus meet with several providers, 
in one place. You don't want to miss it!

 

Event Agenda:

 

1 PM ET: PDF Remediation Software Discussion featuring Mark Shapiro, Casey 
Naiduk, Doug Koppenhofer, Jozef Baranec, and Moise Akbaraly

1:30 PM ET: Document Remediation the Easy Way presented by Aimee Ubbink and 
Ligia Mora of Crawford Technologies

2:00 PM ET: Trillions PDFs to Make Accessible presented by PDFix

2:30 PM ET: PDF Remediation at Scale: Debunking Myths and Unveiling Realities 
presented by Moise Akbaraly of DocAxess

 

Register Now

 

https://www.accessibility.com/event/2024/pdf-remediation-software

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RE: [AI] difference between app installed and browsing

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Bhawani,

Many platforms we use these days have both a Web interface separately and a 
dedicated app separately.
This is true for Youtube also. You can access Youtube using the Web browser at 
http://www.youtube.com or you could download their dedicated App which gets 
installed into your computer's operating system and has a desktop shortcut and 
program manager icons like other apps do. There is usually also phone installer 
Apps for the phones also for the platform.
The developer may employ different technologies which will also mean different 
levels of accessibility in each case, even for the same platform.
Most of the time the Web-based interface is the best because it uses HTML which 
our screen-readers are very compatible with. Sometimes the Apps provide more 
functionality to access extended services provided by the business concerned, 
but sometimes the Apps themselves may lack accessibility so it's a trade-off 
between functionality and accessibility. So sometimes we may want to use the 
Web-based interface for some things, sometimes the phone App for other things 
and the computer App (Windows in most cases) for still other things related to 
the business offerings.
Usually a combination like this is what's necessary for us to come close to 
sighted people's access of the full offerings.
One last point on this I should cover is the desktop shortcuts you mentioned:
It is possible to have a Desktop shortcut for the App itself, but also for the 
Web-Link to the web-page of the platform which will open from your default 
browser. Usually when you install the App the shortcut will refer to the App 
itself, but in some cases a shortcut to the Website can be placed on the 
desktop, and also you can manually create a shortcut yourself on the desktop 
that points to the Website address to be opened by your default Web browser.
I hope I did not confuse you.
If you need further clarification I'm happy to talk and perhaps explain better. 
Whatsapp: +27 82 291 6081.

Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 8:12 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] difference between app installed and browsing

Dear List and technical experts.


What is the difference between opening the web page through google chroam and 
installed the web page as an application in windows desktop? 
for example, I opened youtube with chroam browser, it prompted me to install 
the page as application and i did it. now there is a shortcut "youtube" on my 
desktop and also in installed application list. I did the same for IRCTC and 
mobikwik web page. now what is the difference between twos. if there is no 
difference, then why google croam prompt to install it as application.


regards,


Bhawani


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RE: [AI] 01 Lite by Open Interpreter is a 100% open-source personal AI assistant

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Wow this is pretty promising.
If you could teach it an interface it could run inaccessible apps for us also 
it seems.
We might need sighted help to teach the AI the interface of an inaccessible 
App, but then perhaps later we could share the learned model of the app to 
another person using the same AI to use, much like we would share a Jaws Script 
source file with another Jaws user or an NVDA Add-on for accessing a n App, 
only this time it would have learnt about the interface using advanced learning 
by verbal instruction alone.

But being the skeptic as I am (don't blame me, I'm growing older now), I 
believe we may still be a few years away from that part.
Come on! Prove me wrong, kiddos!

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From: harish kotian [mailto:har...@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 10:00 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] 01 Lite by Open Interpreter is a 100% open-source personal AI 
assistant

All

I just watched this youtube video and and mind is super excited with all this 
possibilities this opens up for us. From day 1 when I saw the possibilities 
what AI can do value addition to us, this is more than one would expect from 
AI. I am reminded by the popular bollywood dialogue 'this is just the trailler, 
picture baki hain'.

   So head over to this link.

https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tK-rdCNIufDplsY9gesabX1Mt3kpjYQ1zu61eN1_-fILIboohYztebz67b8RRlxKfVNBwXgRiNtk5chD4sUTvSCCGLAr9o-ifPkQ8CQtpPZ7wUqprTvIb53MbHu0H1j6GanjijZu52Ne-mUjpXRYRO6FwoEZcIo6fgSJ_MT79qEHDKApdCJAmlZAbTZyX3xqx1hrjAvSF8rQozyToTpttu24roBWYAIV2GFIrFPN9aiSkMPUeTW-yvEiFEiOCRtvdZntp3zfU_Y9uKp6CspJcjIX7bAJMMRDFnaaHJgfKanuqChrd7dxYg==&c=dcuiLjZdjFzsv60th8ASHtmbQ9iGD-sweCQjCaRLce8A8Q6GlvPDtw==&ch=nTrfXXFxdmXOd3tW5v3rQKRqisBK95S0j0PQO5tDmhli0vocS7_i-A==

Harish.


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RE: [AI] UNINSTALLING A PROGRAM WINDOWS 10

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Sometimes the program might include an Uninstall feature from the Start - All 
Programs menu.
Press Windows key from the desktop, then press up arrow to All Programs, and it 
might appear in the most recent list because it was installed not long ago. It 
might appear inside a folder with the software name, and in there there could 
be an Uninstall routine.
But may be not, let's hope for the best.

YJd

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 8:20 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] UNINSTALLING A PROGRAM WINDOWS 10

Dear list,


How to uninstall a program which i have installed from microsoft store in 
windows 10? I accidently install YTD youtube downloader and can not find this 
app in control pannel>programs feature to uninstall it.


Bhawani


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RE: [AI] Calling mac users: Has anyone tried typeahead ai

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
The videos don't seem to make sense from a screen-reader user perspective. All 
I can hear is the TTS saying open E-mail, click attach, Etc. Not sure who is 
meant to be giving the instruction and who is following the instruction or what 
was the outcome. Not very meaningful at least from the demo sample videos.
Still, others who have tried using it might have more positive to say.

YJd

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Calling mac users: Has anyone tried typeahead ai

Hi all,

Has anyone tried the new screen reader for the mac at https://www.typeahead.ai/

Pranav

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[AI] Safely Remove Hardware Notifications

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

Has anyone had any success with hearing the status of the Safely Remove
Hardware notification after trying to eject a hard drive?

Under Windows 7 I used to hear something like "It is now safe to remove the
device" or "Device is in use" Etc. Not exactly those words but something
very similar. But in Windows 10 I just hear a short musical jingle but not
sure what was the message.

When I check the system notifications with Jaws (Insert Space bar followed
by N), other notifications from the past show up but nothing from the safely
remove hardware wizard.

Any thoughts will be welcome.

By the way, Windows 11 is trash! You can't even create a shortcut key for an
App without actually putting it on the Desktop, which seems more clunky than
it was in Windows 10!

And I still love Windows 7 because, well, most things just work nicely for
music production people like me.

 

Anyway there I go rambling again! Please remember why I wrote this mail in
the first place in case you have some thoughts! 

 

Kind regards to all.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Cool features of Opera GX browser

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

Anyone experimented with the Opera GX browser?

Apparently it’s nice for a few reasons such as:

1.   Sounds can be assigned to keyboard events including typing, page 
loading complete and other things;

2.   Apps like Whatsapp are integrated into the sidebar and so you can set 
up shortcuts to open the App easily;

3.   There’s a load of configurability for keyboard shortcuts within the 
brogram.

4.   You can configure the browser to assign and play audio and video using 
your favourite audio video player externally (still trying to find out if this 
is true), which would mean then you could use your preferred audio/video player 
that you find accessible.

 

All of the above is according to my sighted sons, and they are still young boys 
of 14 and 15 years so they could be just over-enthusiastic as kids might 
sometimes be. But I am eager to find out how accessible it really is with 
screen-readers. I found that it does well with displaying the virtual cursor 
(Browse mode for NVDA users), and so you can effectively navigate web pages the 
usual way we do.

 

Beyond this I am only newly experimenting. Anyone using Opera GX please contact 
me if you have any tips, and then I’ll also share what I am learning.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shek Mohammad Ali
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 4:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi update to the latest build which got rolled out couple of weeks back.

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > on 
behalf of Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 1:39:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: RE: [AI] Jaws new fitures 

 

Hi,

Using Jaws 2024 under Options | Early Adopter Programs, the only App that 
appears for me is MathCAT. I do not see Picture Smart nor any other program 
here.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tirupati Gaikwad
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:17 PM
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Subject: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi friends this is tirupati gaikwad here.Picture Smart AI in JAWS
, While navigating the digital landscape, you might encounter photos, charts, 
and other visual elements without an alternative description. This can make it 
challenging to understand the information provided by the visual content. The 
JAWS Picture Smart feature, introduced in 2019, allows you to analyze a photo 
using a layered keystroke. A description of the image is displayed in the JAWS 
Results Viewer window. For example, after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P to 
activate the Picture Smart layer, you could press F to describe the currently 
selected image in File Explorer, or C to describe a photo from a social media 
website like Facebook.
, Picture Smart AI is a revolutionary update to the traditional Picture Smart 
feature. By integrating with the latest artificial intelligence (AI) technology 
from services like Chat GPT from Open AI and Gemini from Google, you will now 
experience a whole new level of accessibility to graphical information. While 
you access Picture Smart as you have in the past, you will be amazed by the 
depth and richness of the visual descriptions Picture Smart AI now offers.
, Picture Smart AI is currently available as an Early Adopter Program feature.  
, To enable Picture Smart AI:
, 1. Press ALT+O in the JAWS program window to access the JAWS Options menu. 
Press E to select Early Adopter Program.
, 2. Press the TAB key to navigate to Picture Smart with Generative AI, and 
press SPACEBAR to select the checkbox to enable this feature. Press the TAB key 
to navigate to OK and press ENTER, then restart the software to begin using 
Picture Smart AI thanks for reading this article +91 9975732046

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RE: [AI] Jaws new fitures

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Using Jaws 2024 under Options | Early Adopter Programs, the only App that 
appears for me is MathCAT. I do not see Picture Smart nor any other program 
here.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Tirupati Gaikwad
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi friends this is tirupati gaikwad here.Picture Smart AI in JAWS
, While navigating the digital landscape, you might encounter photos, charts, 
and other visual elements without an alternative description. This can make it 
challenging to understand the information provided by the visual content. The 
JAWS Picture Smart feature, introduced in 2019, allows you to analyze a photo 
using a layered keystroke. A description of the image is displayed in the JAWS 
Results Viewer window. For example, after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P to 
activate the Picture Smart layer, you could press F to describe the currently 
selected image in File Explorer, or C to describe a photo from a social media 
website like Facebook.
, Picture Smart AI is a revolutionary update to the traditional Picture Smart 
feature. By integrating with the latest artificial intelligence (AI) technology 
from services like Chat GPT from Open AI and Gemini from Google, you will now 
experience a whole new level of accessibility to graphical information. While 
you access Picture Smart as you have in the past, you will be amazed by the 
depth and richness of the visual descriptions Picture Smart AI now offers.
, Picture Smart AI is currently available as an Early Adopter Program feature.  
, To enable Picture Smart AI:
, 1. Press ALT+O in the JAWS program window to access the JAWS Options menu. 
Press E to select Early Adopter Program.
, 2. Press the TAB key to navigate to Picture Smart with Generative AI, and 
press SPACEBAR to select the checkbox to enable this feature. Press the TAB key 
to navigate to OK and press ENTER, then restart the software to begin using 
Picture Smart AI thanks for reading this article +91 9975732046

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RE: [AI] hypothetical query on the Overseas citizenship card

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

As far as I understand it, if you do not ever intend to travel for the rest of 
your life using transport that requires a passport, such as flights Etc, then 
you don’t need to renew your foreign passport.

But you must keep your passport associated with your OCI even if that passport 
expires. This will be needed for updating of Aadhaar or PAN card details. You 
must also keep the passport on which you travelled to India for the last time 
because it contains your stamp of entry. This may or may not be the same 
passport associated with your OCI, but it must be kept all the same.

 

However, if your country of origin has an embassy or high commission office in 
India, you can apply to renew your foreign passport there if you want to. You 
will not have to go home to your birth country for that.

I think if you have stayed in India for 15 years without leaving then you can 
apply for Indian citizenship, but that means you have to renounce your birth 
citizenship and therefore renounce any disability grant or old-age pension from 
birth country. You probably get much more disability and old-age outside India 
than you would get as an Indian citizen, but may be someone can prove me wrong. 
That would be a pleasant surprise!

 

You asked about accessibility of the website, personally I found the OCI 
website very reasonably accessible with Jaws. The only problem is they ask for 
a image captcha which is not accessible. If you get sighted help past that you 
should manage quite well.

https://ociservices.gov.in/capchaAction

I successfully applied for OCI for myself, my wife and my two sons with very 
little sighted help back in South Africa.

 

I’m not an expert but someone else here may have corrections. I hope everything 
I have said thus far proves useful to you.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Behalf Of sagar Verma
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 11:57 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] hypothetical query on the Overseas citizenship card

 

Greetings. I got the following query. As you all know, the OCI aka the Overseas 
Citizenship Card has indefinite living rights. It is a multi-purpose lifelong 
visa which acts as a PR green card which is a resident visa for India for 
people of person of Indian origins or Indian descent. My hypothetical query is, 
is this an obligation to renew the passport associated with the Overseas 
Citizenship Card once it expires when we are residing in India given it is a 
indefinite lifelong permanent visa to reside in India forever? What if we keep 
living in India, don't have any intent to travel internationally? Second, has 
anyone used passport miscellaneous to update the passport for the Overseas 
Citizenship Card? It seems the website is still inaccessible. Waiting for the 
prompt response from those individuals who are having the OCI card and residing 
in India and use screen reading softwares.

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[AI] Alex Rider audio books

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear friends,

Anyone know where we can get the audio book of Alex Rider, all of the series
to listen to?

Thanks.

 

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[AI] Accessible compression of software audio to sound card output

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I often listen to audio streamed via Chrome browser that varies severely in
dynamics, from a lecture to sudden hyped spontaneous singing. At one moment
the audio is so soft you have to turn up the speaker volume, and at other
times it comes crashing in placing the speakers in danger from the severe
distortion.

Does anyone know of a software that is accessible to us, which is capable of
catching the audio from the browser or any software of our choice first,
compressing that audio according to our compression settings, and only then
routing that audio to the sound card?

I found something called Voicemeeter Banana but according to Bard it is not
very accessible to screen-readers.

 

Any thoughts on this will be very much appreciated. Thanks.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] My devotional cover song, please listen and let me know yours valuable feedback

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Nice work! I’m listening to it now! Enjoyed how you used the slight delay 
between the two channels of your vocals for a stereo effect.

Tell us more. Did you produce the musical arrangement or not? Did you mix your 
own vocals into the cover music and if so what software did you use to master 
(EQ and compress vocals) to fit with the music?

 

Congrats again. We must talk!

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Omkar Pawaskar
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 5:35 PM
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Subject: [AI] My devotional cover song, please listen and let me know yours 
valuable feedback

 

Mere Baba - Mahashivratri Special Cover by Omkar Pawaskar | Edited by Hasan Ali 
– 

 

https://youtu.be/T-0nQo6nUVo?si=chCqgaD2L8G4VM7q

 

 

Use Earphones for studio quality experience 🎧

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RE: [AI] Highlight in adobe acrobat reader

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

My experience with PDF files is that they are a pain to deal with!

In tables, navigating from cell to cell tends to read across a whole row or 
column for single cells. It makes understanding the table data very difficult.

With Jaws you can OCR it from the Windows Explorer and this tends to make the 
document a little better to navigate, but now you might have to deal with OCR 
errors instead.

 

Someone might have a better set of experiences and perhaps some useful tips 
which I would also appreciate.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of nehal jain
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Highlight in adobe acrobat reader

 

Dear  Access indians,

 

Trust you all are doing great!

 

 

Could you please help me with this. I am wanting to highlight text  in adobe 
Acrobat reader.

 

Also,  any guidance material for working  in adobe acrobat reader with screen 
reader. Would be helpful.

 

Thanks and best regards

Nehal Jain

 

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RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Can you share more about this device? If you paid 20,000 Rupees it must be 
worth something to you. I'm just wondering what can you do with this that you 
can't do on a software braille keyboard. Or is it just that you like the 
physical buttons and that's all it's about? Can you share your thoughts?

Thanks.
Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of amritpal singh
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 2:14 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

Sorry to say, it hasn't arrived yet. When asked about delay, they just 
explained that it is stuck on border. They sent me two forms to fill and send 
them back. I've done that and now, they say, it would arrive within a week. The 
price I paid them is Rs.20,000,. It includes Rs.2000 for packing and postage.

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 5:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

Could you pls share the price you paid?
Thanks

On 3/3/24, amritpal singh  wrote:
> yes, I ordered directly from their website. Sorry to say, it hasn't 
> arrived yet although it is revolving around my area for the last 3 
> days. I'm waiting for it eagerly.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Sagar Verma
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 8:04 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, sir! I’m interested to know if you ordered directly from the website.
> I’ve communicated with their team about testing, but unfortunately, 
> they haven’t responded. The notable aspect of this keyboard is that it 
> operates on the device, eliminating delays seen in other braille 
> displays like Orbit or Rita. It functions as a Bluetooth keyboard. 
> Could you share the price you paid?
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Sagar
> WhatsApp: +61415104029
>
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>
> On 29 Feb 2024, at 19:58, amritpal singh  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I have ordered it a few days ago and I’m expecting it tomorrow. Only 
> then, I’ll be able to review it.
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> On Behalf Of mukesh jain
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 2:36 PM
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>
>
> hello Access Indians,
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> How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list 
> from India  using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?
>
>
> This keyboard looks promising.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
>
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>
> regards,
>
> Mukesh Jain
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[AI] My Computer Literacy course book in Microsoft Word format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear friends,
Huge appologies, and thanks to Rajpal for pointing this out, that I had 
accidentally uploaded the same MP3 Zip of the book as the Word format zip. Not 
sure what I was doing there, huge mess, but now fixed.
Please download the correct file from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/u42pucesm9lh1945y8bdz/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=a4twnxtvigu4hmnynhyulm455&dl=0
And please let me know if this link works this time. I must have done it in my 
sleep the last time!

Thanks.

YJd

-Original Message-
From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa [mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 4:52 PM
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in' 
Subject: RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Hi all,
Here is my book in Microsoft Word format. Each chapter is in a separate file, 
and all files are zipped together. You have to unzip it before you can access 
the individual chapters. Get sighted help if you are not comfortable doing this 
yourself. In the lessons you will learn how to do all this.

Download from my Dropbox here in Microsoft Word format.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06c6dev5ts2b3dlm7p4zh/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=atp06htdrlbpgakllgaoehfv0&dl=0

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:22 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Yes, I too prefer text version to audio.
Thanks and regards.


On 3/2/24, Aravind R  wrote:
> windows screen reader primer is the best tutorial for learning jaws, 
> narrator and NVDA comparitively. its available in bookshare liberary.
> people can export that to mp3 audio files using eloquants voice 
> through balabolka software from pc or through @voicealoudreader 
> android app
>
> On 02/03/2024, Yasir Jan  wrote:
>> Yes friend I am also comfortable with the text material if you could 
>> share please  we shall be thankful to you
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024, 7:02 AM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also convert it using IBM TTS (eloquence voice).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2024 10:14 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
>>> > Hi Mukesh,
>>> > Are you able to do this pro bono?
>>> > Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. 
>>> > If you
>>> would like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing 
>>> is I cannot finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I 
>>> am sure though. The TTS version is not perfect as you will hear from 
>>> the files I've sent so you could try recording them as real human 
>>> voice.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the 
>>> > community
>>> project and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
>>> > Thanks sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
>>> > Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>>> >
>>> > hello,
>>> > i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have 
>>> > been
>>> doing this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization 
>>> called recording club which provides many indian newspapers daily in 
>>> accessible format i.e. in audio format and human recorded formats. i 
>>> am the paprt of the production team. so if you need me to convert 
>>> the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach out to me on my 
>>> mobile
>>> > 7021030307
>>> >
>>> > if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on 
>>> > this
>>> phone number.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
>>> >> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word 
>>> >> format, and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it 
>>> >> using a braille
>>> printer.
>>> >> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I 
>>> >> published the book under the general public license so that the 
>>> >> company could not monopolize my book. So write me privately and 
>>> >> we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows

RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,
Here is my book in Microsoft Word format. Each chapter is in a separate file, 
and all files are zipped together. You have to unzip it before you can access 
the individual chapters. Get sighted help if you are not comfortable doing this 
yourself. In the lessons you will learn how to do all this.

Download from my Dropbox here in Microsoft Word format.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06c6dev5ts2b3dlm7p4zh/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=atp06htdrlbpgakllgaoehfv0&dl=0

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:22 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Yes, I too prefer text version to audio.
Thanks and regards.


On 3/2/24, Aravind R  wrote:
> windows screen reader primer is the best tutorial for learning jaws, 
> narrator and NVDA comparitively. its available in bookshare liberary.
> people can export that to mp3 audio files using eloquants voice 
> through balabolka software from pc or through @voicealoudreader 
> android app
>
> On 02/03/2024, Yasir Jan  wrote:
>> Yes friend I am also comfortable with the text material if you could 
>> share please  we shall be thankful to you
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024, 7:02 AM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also convert it using IBM TTS (eloquence voice).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2024 10:14 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
>>> > Hi Mukesh,
>>> > Are you able to do this pro bono?
>>> > Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. 
>>> > If you
>>> would like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing 
>>> is I cannot finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I 
>>> am sure though. The TTS version is not perfect as you will hear from 
>>> the files I've sent so you could try recording them as real human 
>>> voice.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the 
>>> > community
>>> project and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
>>> > Thanks sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
>>> > Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>>> >
>>> > hello,
>>> > i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have 
>>> > been
>>> doing this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization 
>>> called recording club which provides many indian newspapers daily  
>>> in accessible format i.e. in audio format and human recorded 
>>> formats. i am the paprt of the production team. so if you need me to 
>>> convert the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach out to me 
>>> on my mobile
>>> > 7021030307
>>> >
>>> > if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on 
>>> > this
>>> phone number.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
>>> >> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word 
>>> >> format, and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it 
>>> >> using a braille
>>> printer.
>>> >> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I 
>>> >> published the book under the general public license so that the 
>>> >> company could not monopolize my book. So write me privately and 
>>> >> we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly convert 
>>> >> the book from text to audio for people who have never used a 
>>> >> computer before, that will be very nice because then they can 
>>> >> just listen to the audio and follow
>>> along on the computer.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> YJd
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>> >> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>>> >> On Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:58 PM
>>> >>

RE: [AI] What do you think?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Rajib,

These are simply idiomatic expressions. They are not maliciously targeted at 
blind people. It is in our best interest not to become paranoid as this will 
only cause us distress without valid cause. We have enough real-world practical 
struggles as blind people in a sighted world. Let’s not add to it.

 

That’s my take.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rajib Das
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 11:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] What do you think?

 

Dear all,

I hope this mail finds you well.

I am a blind person. I feel very bad and insulted, when I listen to phrases 
like: (don't blindly believe) and (love is blind).

What do people mean by this phrases?

 

I personally feel that these are very much in correct phrases.

 

Now, I want to know from you all about this types of phrases.

What do you people think about this phrases?

Additionally, if I wrong please correct me.

 

Thank you

Waiting eagerly for your response

Rajib Das

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Mukesh,
Are you able to do this pro bono?
Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. If you would 
like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing is I cannot 
finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I am sure though. The TTS 
version is not perfect as you will hear from the files I've sent so you could 
try recording them as real human voice.

Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the community project 
and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
Thanks sincerely,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of mukesh jain
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

hello,
i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have been doing 
this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization called recording 
club which provides many indian newspapers daily  in accessible format i.e. in 
audio format and human recorded formats. i am the paprt of the production team. 
so if you need me to convert the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach 
out to me on my mobile
7021030307

if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on this phone 
number.


On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word format, 
> and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it using a braille 
> printer.
> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I published 
> the book under the general public license so that the company could 
> not monopolize my book. So write me privately and we’ll try to 
> arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly convert the book from text 
> to audio for people who have never used a computer before, that will 
> be very nice because then they can just listen to the audio and follow along 
> on the computer.
>
>
>
> YJd
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:58 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>
>
>
> Hi! It’s a great information you shared here. I am also interested in 
> this course, could you please tell me how can I get this entire course from 
> you?
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 29, 2024, at 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi,
>
> I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
> screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio 
> using TTS please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for 
> your friend to use, and no I will not charge any money.
>
>
>
> YJd
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:26 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>
>
>
> sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, 
> that material will be payed.
>
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[AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Friends,I have accidentally provided an incorrect link. See the message again 
below for correct link.

 

 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa [mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 8:03 PM
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in' 
Subject: RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

Dear Access India members,

 

I have received many requests yesterday for the computer literacy course 
privately from list members who wrote to me by E-mail. Instead of replying to 
everyone individually, I am sending here publically a link to download an MP3 
version of my book.

 

I am grateful to Bhawani Shankar Verma for suggesting the “Text Allowed” 
software which I used for converting the documents to audio.

Please note that while this recording was created using IVona Text to speech, 
Sally, an American English voice, the quality is not perfectly human like, but 
I believe it is good enough for understanding the content.

 

Click here to download the Zip file from my Dropbox. 
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yzmw79tb6nbiuen0a5ekf/Computer-Literacy-Course-for-the-Blind.zip?rlkey=2pm6grfai3xqlqxv10fdl84v1&dl=0>
 

 

 

After downloading the Zip file, you may need help to extract all the MP3 files 
from it, to copy them to some sort of audio player such as a phone, computer or 
MP3 player, so that someone who never used a computer before can listen to the 
course as an audio file and follow along. It will help if you show the student 
how to play and pause, seek back and forwards through the audio file, change to 
the previous and next audio file, Etc to make their learning experience 
interactive.

Also, ensure the student has NVDA or Jaws installed and working and have the 
text-to-speech synthesizer at a comfortable listening speed for the student 
before they get started with this learning program. The course teaches both 
using Jaws and NVDA, and the student can choose the lessons to listen to 
depending on the screen-reader where a selection is available. The title of 
each chapter will tell if the course uses Jaws or NVDA if they are taught 
separately.

If the student will progress to the Microsoft applications like Word and Excel, 
or to the Browsing the Internet section, then ensure those applications are 
also installed on the computer. Browsing is trained using Google Chrome, but 
can also work with Edge and some others.

 

All the best to those wishing to learn via this course.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

text allowed or balabolka application may haelpful to convert text to audio mp3 
format. 

On 2/29/2024 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, that 
material will be payed.

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Access India members,

 

I have received many requests yesterday for the computer literacy course 
privately from list members who wrote to me by E-mail. Instead of replying to 
everyone individually, I am sending here publically a link to download an MP3 
version of my book.

 

I am grateful to Bhawani Shankar Verma for suggesting the “Text Allowed” 
software which I used for converting the documents to audio.

Please note that while this recording was created using IVona Text to speech, 
Sally, an American English voice, the quality is not perfectly human like, but 
I believe it is good enough for understanding the content.

 

Click here to download the Zip file from my Dropbox. 
 

 

After downloading the Zip file, you may need help to extract all the MP3 files 
from it, to copy them to some sort of audio player such as a phone, computer or 
MP3 player, so that someone who never used a computer before can listen to the 
course as an audio file and follow along. It will help if you show the student 
how to play and pause, seek back and forwards through the audio file, change to 
the previous and next audio file, Etc to make their learning experience 
interactive.

Also, ensure the student has NVDA or Jaws installed and working and have the 
text-to-speech synthesizer at a comfortable listening speed for the student 
before they get started with this learning program. The course teaches both 
using Jaws and NVDA, and the student can choose the lessons to listen to 
depending on the screen-reader where a selection is available. The title of 
each chapter will tell if the course uses Jaws or NVDA if they are taught 
separately.

If the student will progress to the Microsoft applications like Word and Excel, 
or to the Browsing the Internet section, then ensure those applications are 
also installed on the computer. Browsing is trained using Google Chrome, but 
can also work with Edge and some others.

 

All the best to those wishing to learn via this course.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
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Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

text allowed or balabolka application may haelpful to convert text to audio mp3 
format. 

On 2/29/2024 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word format, and in 
Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it using a braille printer. This 
was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I published the book under 
the general public license so that the company could not monopolize my book. So 
write me privately and we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly 
convert the book from text to audio for people who have never used a computer 
before, that will be very nice because then they can just listen to the audio 
and follow along on the computer.

 

YJd

 

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Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
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Hi! It’s a great information you shared here. I am also interested in this 
course, could you please tell me how can I get this entire course from you? 
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

How does this compare with typing in braille on the soft braille keyboard 
directly on the phone display, such as Talkback Braille keyboard?

 

Thanks

 

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Hello, sir! I’m interested to know if you ordered directly from the website. 
I’ve communicated with their team about testing, but unfortunately, they 
haven’t responded. The notable aspect of this keyboard is that it operates on 
the device, eliminating delays seen in other braille displays like Orbit or 
Rita. It functions as a Bluetooth keyboard. Could you share the price you paid?

 

Kind regards,
Sagar
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On 29 Feb 2024, at 19:58, amritpal singh mailto:amritpa...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I have ordered it a few days ago and I’m expecting it tomorrow. Only then, I’ll 
be able to review it.

 

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Subject: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

 

hello Access Indians, 

How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list from India  
using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?


This keyboard looks promising. 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Mukesh Jain

  

  

 

  

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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi PAUL MUDDHA

You wrote:

 

> No No dear you have understood wrongly Yjd.

After 5 lakhs straight away 10% and above 7 lakhs straight away tax applied. >

Ok, so what was meant then by the first tax slab in the case of both old and 
new regimes being free?

Prof Kumar wrote as follows, let’s just take the old regime as an example of 
what I’m asking. He wrote:

 

>> As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. >>

But then he writes just after that:

 

>> Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax. >>

 

So it appears we are talking about to amounts untaxed: the 500,000 untaxed, and 
the 250,000 free first slab. If they do not add up as a collective free portion 
of 750,000 then how does this work?

Let’s say as an example the salary P/A was 1,000,000. Can you demonstrate how 
this would be taxed given the example of the two untaxed portions here?

 

Thanks.

 

Kind regards,

 

YJd

 

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Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 29 February 2024 00:57
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

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Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10% of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.

Content & Product Development Advisor, Continual Engine  

Email: drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com>  

Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864

Cell: +91-9840139849

https://continualengine.com <https://continualengine.com/>  

Transforming Learning Using AI

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 202

RE: [AI] Correction - Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10 Lakhs of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

In other words as per the new regime if we earn only a little more than 83,000 
per month through the year we will start being hit by 25% of any additional 
earnings and no rebates? That’s crazy!

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com 
<mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.

Content & Product Development Advisor, Continual Engine  

Email: drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com>  

Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864

Cell: +91-9840139849

https://continualengine.com <https://continualengine.com/>  

Transforming Learning Using AI

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 6:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

As an individual, or firm or HUF 

RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10% of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:24 PM
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Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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As an individual, or firm or HUF or any organisation if your income is more 
than Rs.50/- in that case you should file income tax return. income taxx is 
a tax which you have to pay on your income with different stages and slabs. if 
it is less than rs.50/- you need not to worry about it.

Now their are 2 regimes  in income tax. most of the exemptions, re

RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Just in case you're not aware, it is now possible to type using 6 dot braille 
on Android and IPhone. When you get used to it, you can really fly on the 
braille keyboard of the phone, and you don't need to buy anything. You can type 
in contracted braille also, just from the phone screen. If you need help 
getting started give me a shout on Whatsapp +27822916081.

YJd

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Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:40 PM
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Hello Mukesh ji
I gave it a try once. Honestly, I didn't find it worth its price, that was 
approx 250 Euro. I didn't also find it very convenient, you have to hold it 
vertically with both hands for typing which doesn't serve its purpose of using 
in crowded places. Moreover, it doesn't give any sound output. In some ways 
though it could be useful like faster typing and using all apps in the handset. 
But for sound output you must be using an earphone.
HTH.
Sandeep
PS: I have all the literature (both android and IPhone), can share it.

On 2/28/24, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello Access Indians,
> How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list 
> from India  using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?
> This keyboard looks promising.
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
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RE: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,
What is the concession we are entitled to with UDID card? Is it a percentage of 
the full price (MRP)? Or is it just up to the individual provider if they want 
to give concession and how much to give?

Thanks.

YJd

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I have also used my UDID card only for this purpose railways should also 
recognize UDID card for giving concession.


On 2/28/24, harish kotian  wrote:
> All
>
> Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka. 
> I was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the 
> conductor for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I 
> handed over my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with concession.
>
> I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first 
> time I made any use of UDID card.
>
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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 6:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

As an individual, or firm or HUF or any organisation if your income is more 
than Rs.50/- in that case you should file income tax return. income taxx is 
a tax which you have to pay on your income with different stages and slabs. if 
it is less than rs.50/- you need not to worry about it.

Now their are 2 regimes  in income tax. most of the exemptions, rebaits and 
deductions you have mentioned are unavailable in new regime. they are available 
in old regime. 

If you are running a firm and having turnover above Rs.400/- then you 
should register your firm for GST. goods and service tax.

 

On 2/27/2024 6:30 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing tax returns 
with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of such an 
authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which 
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation 
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology 
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me? Here 
are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

6. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to 
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their 
parents/children Etc.

7. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is 
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

8. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves, 
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the process 
more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize our tax 
returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Pranav wrote:

 

> Many individuals however elect to file their returns themselves since they 
> have one source of income primarily salaries. >

 

Understood. But if we have less experience as to what to file for in terms of 
rebates, reductions and exemptions, then we lose out on those anyway, not so? 
So unless we have enough experience I’m thinking this may also be why someone 
may not want to file themselves for the first time, until they have learnt all 
of the variables for claiming of returns.

Personally I’m quite afraid of the process, until I actually do it I guess.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

 

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[AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

 

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing my own
tax returns with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of
such an authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me?
Here are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax credits

6. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

7. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their
parents/children Etc.

8. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

9. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves,
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the
process more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize
our tax returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of
this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing tax
returns with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of such
an authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me?
Here are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

6. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their
parents/children Etc.

7. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

8. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves,
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the
process more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize
our tax returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of
this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Live translation software?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Google Translate does a very poor job of translating. It almost always only 
hears a few words at a time, and usually misunderstands what is spoken. It is 
not even close to a solution.

Perhaps technology needs to develop further until this can be done.

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Keshav Nadar
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Live translation software?

 

You can use Google Translate and Microsoft Translator tools in computer and 
mobile.

 

Best Regards

Keshav Nadar

 

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 7:51 PM ishan sangi mailto:jsiya1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

dear

 

i don't know any software 

but  i know 1 phone is claiming to do this 
samsung galaxy S24 or  samsung galaxy AI 


hope it will help 
regards 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:24 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Anyone knows of software that can listen to speech in one language and 
translate in realtime to another language even while the speech is continuing 
to be spoken, all in realtime?

Ideally, we can then use earphones to listen to the translated audio without 
disturbing the microphone listening to the original text, because the TTS 
translated audio will come back on earphones so it won’t return back to the 
microphone listening to the source language original spoken audio.

I would like to listen in this way to spoken Hindi which gets translated into 
English.

As blind people this will be the equivalent to subtitles that sighted people 
use, so that while being entertained by what they watch, they can also learn 
the language more easily over time.

For now I would like to listen to, and understand today’s historic speech of 
our Prime Minister at the Sri Rama temple. My disability today is not being 
blind, it is being ignorant  of the Hindi language. Quite a disability this is!

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Mohib,
I can't set up Google Pay as yet because the account is not yet local account. 
I will do all that after converting from NRI to local. Then when we do UPI it 
will match the local account for linking with Google Pay.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 8:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar 
Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

Why don't you pay from google pay directly, there is no need to fill this all 
captcha.

On 2/14/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> If you live anywhere in Uttar Pradesh, and you wish to use Internet 
> banking to pay your municipal account, I have learnt the following 
> which I am sharing in case it proves useful to anyone of us accessibility 
> users.
> Anyone with more experience please correct my findings or improve them 
> if you know better than this. I'm learning and sharing as I go along. 
> Still brand new at this in India.
>
> A direct Login address to the portal is:
> https://www.uppclonline.com/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/uppcl/wss?_nfpb
> =true&_pageLabel=uppcl_loginreg_login&pageID=LR_002
> Here directly you can select the Discom name, input your account 
> number and password if you created an account, and login. Before you 
> login there is a captcha to solve a sum of 2 numbers, but it is in a 
> graphic that Jaws/NVDA cannot normally see. It will show up in the virtual 
> cursor as:
> No description available. Graphic.
> When your virtual cursor lands on that, route your mouse cursor to it 
> (usually Insert Numpad-Minus on both screen-readers), and right-click 
> there (Numpad Star).
> From the context menu that pops up, choose "Open image in new tab". 
> Now with Jaws it is possible to OCR scan using Omni page (Insert 
> Spacebar followed by O then W).
> You will now need to navigate using jaws cursor and you should hear 2 
> numbers read together, such as 94 or 73 Etc. Actually this really  
> means 9 +
> 4 or 7 + 3 because there are only single digits to be added and the 
> OCR does not detect the plus sign inbetween.
> From this you can perform the sum of the two numbers, in our examples 
> those would be 13 or 10 respectively.
> With NVDA I haven't used it since working at Blind SA so I haven't 
> followed up if they have by now implemented OCR. If they do, try the 
> same with the OCR feature and let us know if you get similar results.
>
> And that's it. Hit the Login button and you're logged into the account.
> If you choose to make a payment from here you can choose payment type, 
> such as Internet Banking, UPI Etc and you should know the rest based 
> on your usual payment preference.
>
> I hope this helps some of you out there.
>
> Kind regards,
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
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RE: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Harish,
Thanks for this feedback, good to know. Does Rufus allow backing up the entire 
hard drive including operating system, then to move it later to another hard 
drive if the existing drive crashes? What if the restore drive has a smaller 
disk capacity than the source drive from which the image was originally made, 
but the actual data is less than the target disk, does Rufus allow 
restructuring the image to fit the smaller disk capacity?

This is why I moved away from Windows Backup, because it doesn't allow moving 
the disk to another disk without forcing the partition sizes to match the 
source. Macrium will allow you during the restore, to use the maximum partition 
size as the maximum available disk space, so that even if you bought a smaller 
disk for your operating system later, it will still restore to it provided of 
course the data can fit. The other problem is with Windows Backup, even if you 
later get a larger disk than the source disk to target for the restore, Windows 
Backup will create the OS partition as the size of the source disk, leaving the 
remaining capacity of your new larger disk not included in your partition. 
That's quite useless. So Macrium helps prevent all this. Now I'm wondering 
about Rufus and whether it can also do this?

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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From: harish kotian [mailto:hpkot...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
Subject: Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

Hi

I use Rufus to make disk image and to make bootable USB disk. This is pretty 
accessible and I don't have any accessibility issue navigating it.

Harish


On 2/12/2024 6:56 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way 
> around Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
> containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
> virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
> configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally 
> too accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite 
> nicely with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
> It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
> provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
> Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
> program to do it.
> Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
> this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
> when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
> There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
> provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
> version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 
> 7 (32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
> safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.
>
> I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
> little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shankar C
> Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
> To: accessindia 
> Subject: [AI] spotify membership.
>
> hello music lovers,
> here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 per year!
> we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are available, if 
> anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.
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RE: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

If you live anywhere in Uttar Pradesh, and you wish to use Internet banking to 
pay your municipal account, I have learnt the following which I am sharing in 
case it proves useful to anyone of us accessibility users.
Anyone with more experience please correct my findings or improve them if you 
know better than this. I'm learning and sharing as I go along. Still brand new 
at this in India.

A direct Login address to the portal is:
https://www.uppclonline.com/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/uppcl/wss?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=uppcl_loginreg_login&pageID=LR_002
Here directly you can select the Discom name, input your account number and 
password if you created an account, and login. Before you login there is a 
captcha to solve a sum of 2 numbers, but it is in a graphic that Jaws/NVDA 
cannot normally see. It will show up in the virtual cursor as:
No description available. Graphic.
When your virtual cursor lands on that, route your mouse cursor to it (usually 
Insert Numpad-Minus on both screen-readers), and right-click there (Numpad 
Star).
>From the context menu that pops up, choose "Open image in new tab". Now with 
>Jaws it is possible to OCR scan using Omni page (Insert Spacebar followed by O 
>then W).
You will now need to navigate using jaws cursor and you should hear 2 numbers 
read together, such as 94 or 73 Etc. Actually this really  means 9 + 4 or 7 + 3 
because there are only single digits to be added and the OCR does not detect 
the plus sign inbetween.
>From this you can perform the sum of the two numbers, in our examples those 
>would be 13 or 10 respectively.
With NVDA I haven't used it since working at Blind SA so I haven't followed up 
if they have by now implemented OCR. If they do, try the same with the OCR 
feature and let us know if you get similar results.

And that's it. Hit the Login button and you're logged into the account.
If you choose to make a payment from here you can choose payment type, such as 
Internet Banking, UPI Etc and you should know the rest based on your usual 
payment preference.

I hope this helps some of you out there.

Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana Dasa


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[AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,
I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way around 
Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally too 
accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite nicely 
with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
program to do it.
Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 7 
(32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.

I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] spotify membership.

hello music lovers,
here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 per year!
we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are available, if 
anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.

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To back up a disk, go to the menu bar to Backup, Image  selected disks.
Tab past the Help, next, Cancel and finish buttons.
We land on Disk List but from here Jaws will no longer speak from PC cursor as 
we tab. It is best to turn screen-echo to all (Insert 2).
Route Jaws to PC (Numpad Insert + Numpad Minus), and hear current line to learn 
which disk we are landed on. It reads the model name and at the end of that 
line tells the size.
By default all disks seem selected. We need to deselect everything except the 
ones we want to image.
If we go down a line we hear numbered partitions from left to right:
status of the partitions such as no name or System reserved, and in brackets we 
hear drive letters if assigned. So, partitions are all given in columns for 
each disk, with each partition being named on that same line.
Below on the next row we hear corresponding info for each partition related to 
the previous row, again from left to right because of the corresponding columns 
of the data: We hear the types of partitions such as NTFS, FAT32, LBA Etc.
Still using Jaws cursor if we press Home to get to beginning of that line, we 
land on a checkbox to deselect all partitions of that disk, in other words, the 
entire disk. Reading current word (Insert Numpad5) doesn't even say blank here 
but this is a good indication we have landed on that checkbox. Left-click on it 
with Numpad Slash and yo