Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Way back in the day we were doing a project which required a bunch of connections RJ45 to a 66 block. We spent a lot of time finding Solid patch cables (So we could cut them in half and punch them in). On 2/19/2015 2:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all stranded. I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think that’s right. Stranded should only be used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring. *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
I did one the other day on an old style POE. I managed to cut the wires
without blowing it up, but the crimp did it in.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 11:11 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I'm pretty sure I've seen plastic crimpers, but I don't know that I'd
trust them to do a decent crimp...
It doesn't seem to hurt most power supplies, but I always try to be
quick about it when I do it... it all depends on the situation though,
in some cases it isn't worth the risk even if it is small.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
That's just the first issue. As someone else mentioned, you also
short all the pins together when you crimp the RJ45 on. Are there
plastic or ceramic crimpers?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same
time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer
ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last
too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without
doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run
without frying stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing
damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with
that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable,
then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in,
but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the
home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside
of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
They don’t bite too hard over here Patrick… too hard :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! From: Patrick Leary mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM To: Af@afmug.com mailto:Af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Those inline splices are great. As long as you are not running 10gbps over your 3000 foot long cat6e cable you should be good. (if you are running 10gbps over a 3000 foot cat6 cable to a CPE or AP please let me know the brand of AP/CPE you are using so I can switch to that product NOW!) ryan On 2/19/15 10:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
The risk is dropping 24VDC across the Ethernet…
The power supply might be able to take it but the NIC chip might not.
Plastic crimps just have a much shorter lifespan on the dies, but if they are
only used to crimp hot connections they should last a while
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:12 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
I'm pretty sure I've seen plastic crimpers, but I don't know that I'd trust
them to do a decent crimp...
It doesn't seem to hurt most power supplies, but I always try to be quick about
it when I do it... it all depends on the situation though, in some cases it
isn't worth the risk even if it is small.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
That's just the first issue. As someone else mentioned, you also short all the
pins together when you crimp the RJ45 on. Are there plastic or ceramic
crimpers?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet
port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the
splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I
didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the
outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I don’t think that’s right. Stranded should only be used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.comOn 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
The tower was made by Arris I believe and it took special designed mounts for the larger standoffs like this one. I would think that a fabrication shop could make what you need if given enough measurements at the height you need. On 02/19/2015 12:24 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: The pipe that you are using to hold the sectors how did you mount that to the tower? How you have your setup there is what am looking for *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:25 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower Here a couple pics. On 02/19/2015 09:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: MTOW-P http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 *From:*Vince West mailto:vi...@shelbybb.com *Sent:*Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Anyone know of a outdoor splice that's inline that's like 5 bucks or less ?
On Feb 19, 2015 11:18 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote:
The risk is dropping 24VDC across the Ethernet…
The power supply might be able to take it but the NIC chip might not.
Plastic crimps just have a much shorter lifespan on the dies, but if they
are only used to crimp hot connections they should last a while
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:12 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
I'm pretty sure I've seen plastic crimpers, but I don't know that I'd
trust them to do a decent crimp...
It doesn't seem to hurt most power supplies, but I always try to be quick
about it when I do it... it all depends on the situation though, in some
cases it isn't worth the risk even if it is small.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
That's just the first issue. As someone else mentioned, you also short
all the pins together when you crimp the RJ45 on. Are there plastic or
ceramic crimpers?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the
Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the
splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I
didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the
outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all stranded. I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think that’s right. Stranded should only be used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring. *From:* Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
All new hardware. Already shipping though. Assuming you were talking about 2.5? On Feb 19, 2015 1:13 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, was just going to ask this on the WISPA list, but may as well here: What's the word on indoor units (the 4000's) making their way to LTE land? Firmware upgrade or all new hardware spin? -Steve D On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Does that mean Patrick's posts are approved by SAF? On Feb 19, 2015 1:26 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: They don’t bite too hard over here Patrick… too hard :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
We won't do a 3.65 version of the indoor units. The reason is, the FCC considers that a mobile device. And if you are connecting a mobile device you must turn down the power of your base station by pretty much 90%. In other words, the power allowed by the FCC in 3.65 is not high enough to enable connection of indoor devices. This was done on purpose so tu as not piss off the major cell carriers who spend billions on spectrum capable of providing mobile service, which includes connecting people inside their homes and businesses. If the FCC had allowed high enough power in 3.65 to connect it indoor CPE the carriers would have pitched a fit. On Feb 19, 2015 1:13 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote: Heh, was just going to ask this on the WISPA list, but may as well here: What's the word on indoor units (the 4000's) making their way to LTE land? Firmware upgrade or all new hardware spin? -Steve D On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
+1 :) On 02/19/2015 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
Logo looks to vintage. Not enough tech behind it...
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Aha.
www.risebroadband.net
*From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I hear that the new name is Rise Broadband. This post seems to confirm
the rumor:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-JAB-Broadband-RVW5530768.htm
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Tyler Treat
tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote:
Prairie was in IL, but i think the old DTNSpeednet bought a good chunk
of that, which over time became Speednet/then Keyon, then JAB - and JAB
also bought the other part of Prairie in Iowa. All the Keyon stuff down
here was rebranded T6.
--
*From:* Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard
mhoward...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:29 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I know they go into the southwest corner of Wisconsin, so I assumed
they're in north western Illinois too, but I thought T6 was pretty much
across the whole middle of the state... maybe they're kind of mixed because
of stuff they had there before they bought T6...
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Prairie ONetime was in Illinois at one point, IIRC, but as it wasn't
near me, I can't be certain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:06:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I don't think Prairie Inet goes that far east... I think pretty much all
JAB in Illinois is T6.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Are they T6 by you, or Prairie Inet?
And what happened to their rumored national re-branding? Was that a
hoax? No, the Google finds this quote from a magazine article in
mid-2014:
“If readers haven’t heard of JAB, they may be familiar with one of the
company’s five brand names, which include Prairie iNet, SKYBEAM,
Digis, T6
and Rhino Communications.
Within the next year, JAB hopes to convert to just a single brand,
however.”
*From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I love/hate T6, I dont like them because theyre Jab, but I love that
they just decide they dont like a site anymore and tell their
customers to
punch sand, so we get to be like that creepy friend who hangs out in
the
shadows waiting for you and your old lady to get in a fight so we can
swoop
in and put the hammer down
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
This place is a laugh a minute.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 8:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So many jokes there...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 11:00 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
Oh right. That was a distant memory…
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
...Jab. As mentioned in the subject. As in the company you sold to.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 10:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
That’s cool, what’s T6?
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
[image: Inline image 1]
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage
A customer of mine is needing a simple program for monitoring custom OIDs for traffic(Mikrotik Queues). Software needs to be able to display total GB usage on a monthly basis maybe even 95th percentile. Any suggestions? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization
This describes it fairly well http://www.thebdr.net/articles/ops/xmtr/RF-pol.pdf Sent from my iPad On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Please enlighten me Glad to see that for the most part this thread kept the discussion on polarization rather than polarity these sound similar but they are not synonymous. Sent from my iPad On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Technically that is impossible to answer due to the infinite number of waveguide modes. � However, the practical answer is that we always use a very simple mode.� And in that mode, the probe always comes out of the broad wall, about a quarter wavelength from the end of a dead ended waveguide.� And that probe is the polarization.� � You have to match the openings.� The internal dimensions of the waveguide and the hole in the radio must line up.� In the event the mechanical orientations are at right angles, you have to use a section of flexible waveguide to make the twist. � From: Dan Petermannmailto:d...@wyoming.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:10 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � Hmm, now I am not so sure. � Is it the orientation of the waveguide that determines the polarity or the orientation of the probe? � For example, waveguide exits the radio with wider dimension in a left/right direction, and enters antenna in a up/down direction, did the polarization of the signal rotate 90 degrees? � On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If you ever need to question this again, it is opposite the major dimension.� If you could see the little probe /antenna that feeds the waveguide, you would see it sticking up out of the broad wall.� � The polarization of that little probe is the polarization of the waveguide.� And it is parallel to the short walls.� � From: Dan Petermannmailto:d...@wyoming.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � Great!� Thanks to all who answered.� � � � � On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.commailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Josh I hate to disagree with you here� but a waveguide is a waveguide.� Maybe your link is in the wrong polarization :-) � Top is correct. � *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.commailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social:�LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 � *** � From:�Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]�On Behalf Of�Josh Luthman Sent:�Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:55 PM To:�af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject:�Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � On SAF CFIP Lumina it was opposite.� Like your first image. � Josh Luthman Office:�937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct:�937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 � On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.commailto:d...@wyoming.com wrote: If you have a waveguide connection to an antenna, what direction (up/down or left/right) does the wider portion of the waveguide go? ___ |���� | |���� | = H Pol? |���� | or ___ |������������ | = H Pol? � �
Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode?
We weren't capping out the 430AP, no. It was replaced because the tower was replaced and in order to get a smooth transition and keep an eye towards the future we put a 450AP on the new tower and just swapped the SM's into Interoperability mode and moved them to the new color code. We figured we would see at least equal if not better performance, which it sounds like should be the case. I guess I'll proceed with the assumption that performance across the AP isn't the issue, thanks! -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | sam...@plexicomm.net -- Original Message -- From: Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/18/2015 4:15:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We have done this multiple times. I would expect to see performance basically double for any customer you switch from a 430SM to a 450SM. Overall throughput of the AP should increase pretty proportionally as you replace 430 SM's with 450's. If you were capping out the 430 (which seems odd if you were only pushing 24Mb), and you didn't swap any of those customers to 450 SM it would still be doing the same as the 430. We are seeing peaks of ~41Mbps on a 450 AP with 83 customers with a split of 63 430 SM's and 20 450 SM's. Yeah, it's probably time for another AP, but I see plenty of customers holding 4 and 6Mb steady. Mark On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sam Kirsch sam...@plexicomm.net wrote: I have a 450 that was very recently put up in place of a 430AP. 16/22 Customers are 430s in Interop mode, the rest are 450s. What can I expect as maximum throughput? I was sort of expecting greater or equal performance to a 430, but I've had a lot of odd feeback from customers since we switched this over from a 430 AP to a 450AP with mostly 430SMs. I only have one Microtik at a customer location that I can do a bandwidth tests too but it's a rate limited SM, so its a little hard to gauge based on that alone. Most of the time it seems like there should be plenty of bandwidth available, but just getting too much odd feedback to not check out all the possibilities. The bandwidth usage charge also tracks a falling utilization over the past few weeks. I've gone from seeing peaks at 22-24mpbs to peaks at 12-15mbps. Nothing should have changed out there as far as usage, I'd still be expecting to see something in the neighborhood of 22-24 on average. If anything it should be pushing more as the schools are all off for a week. Does anyone have any sort of clear info on what we should be expecting here? -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | sam...@plexicomm.net
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
I agree. I also find that when mounting to a tower sometimes you can't put the M-TOW exactly where you want it because it will hit something like a cross-member. With the 10 models you have more freedom to move mounts up and down accordingly and still meet up with the brackets on the antenna. It also helps that for quite some time due to an error I was getting the 10s cheaper than the regular M-TOWs with my distributor!! -Ty On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I find a lot of products work with the 10 versus the standard 6. Not by more than an inch or two, though :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 10:22 AM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
I find a lot of products work with the 10 versus the standard 6. Not by more than an inch or two, though :/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 10:22 AM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
MTOW-P http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 From: Vince West Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower I would use an M-TOW or M-TOW-10 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector [cid:image001.png@01D04C34.3B0C3310] On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
We have used those for a while. We also use DC4 in the coupler inside,
and then wrap the outside with silicon tape. They have lasted for years
without leaks/failures.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Manufacturer: Bulgin PX0777/UTPCurrent Rating: 1.5 AVoltage Rating: 30
VAC / 42 VDC
Mouser
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=p08Uhw9w2FyOGS2yhLmq6g==
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 19, 2015 11:51 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into
the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or
RJ45 coupler.
On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a
quality product to do it wrong
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's
in that picture for ethernet.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
Do you have a partnumber/distributor?
On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant.
Adam
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Nate Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so
that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice
with another twist. I've been searching around, but
haven't been able to find them. I can see this being
better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some
situations. Anybody use something similar to this?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Heh, was just going to ask this on the WISPA list, but may as well here: What's the word on indoor units (the 4000's) making their way to LTE land? Firmware upgrade or all new hardware spin? -Steve D On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
The product I think Nate is referring to sounded something like that.
Bill Prince wrote:
Local phone guy was using something like that for keeping most of the
twist in his twisted pairs.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 9:56 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Sounds like they are referring to this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/3m-u1r/70112963/
*From:* Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45
coupler.
On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:
There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
Do you have a partnumber/distributor?
On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant.
Adam
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't
been able to find them. I can see this being better than
trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody
use something similar to this?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
That's just the first issue. As someone else mentioned, you also short
all the pins together when you crimp the RJ45 on. Are there plastic or
ceramic crimpers?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying
stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to
the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the
splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice
if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live
run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
They have all kinds of bands covered Jaime Solorza On Feb 19, 2015 10:28 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: Its been a while so I doubt the pricing is the same. I think we were in for around 1,800 This is 2GHz to 6GHz. Isn’t powerline below 1MHz? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:20 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions What is the price? I would like to find something to look for noise on electrical outlets to help ethernet powerline adapters work better. *From:* Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:15 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Yeah Steve is the canary in the coal mine regarding couth. If Steve is here we are doing fine. -Ty On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Couth? Nobody threw me out, so I'm assuming not... On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Animal Farm is couth now? OMG, just like the book, are the pigs walking upright, wearing clothes and drinking whiskey now? Has Chuck retired his loincloth? *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Local phone guy was using something like that for keeping most of the
twist in his twisted pairs.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 9:56 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Sounds like they are referring to this:
http://www.alliedelec.com/3m-u1r/70112963/
*From:* Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a
product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the
connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45
coupler.
On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote:
we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if
theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality
product to do it wrong
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in
that picture for ethernet.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
Do you have a partnumber/distributor?
On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant.
Adam
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate
Burke
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were
using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being
similar to a butt connector
Image result for cat5 splice keep twist
but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that
the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with
another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been
able to find them. I can see this being better than trying
to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use
something similar to this?
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore,
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Not that is recomended, but I do it alot. I crimp ends too. Most power supplies these days just shutdown on a short On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Animal Farm is couth now? OMG, just like the book, are the pigs walking upright, wearing clothes and drinking whiskey now? Has Chuck retired his loincloth? From: Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:49 AM To: Af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to replace it.. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd http://www.unwiredltd.com/ www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I think I agree.
We've used the Bulgin jobs for a long time, and they work very well.
However, with the Bulgin you have to terminate the ends after you've
threaded the glands/nuts on.
This one looks like you can terminate the ends before assembly.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:30 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:
I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I
need to replace it..
Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler
*Peter Kranz
*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization
This is very nice, and playing with the java app means I can finally visualize circular polarization. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: This describes it fairly well http://www.thebdr.net/articles/ops/xmtr/RF-pol.pdf Sent from my iPad On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: Please enlighten me Glad to see that for the most part this thread kept the discussion on polarization rather than polarity these sound similar but they are not synonymous. Sent from my iPad On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Technically that is impossible to answer due to the infinite number of waveguide modes. � However, the practical answer is that we always use a very simple mode.� And in that mode, the probe always comes out of the broad wall, about a quarter wavelength from the end of a dead ended waveguide.� And that probe is the polarization.� � You have to match the openings.� The internal dimensions of the waveguide and the hole in the radio must line up.� In the event the mechanical orientations are at right angles, you have to use a section of flexible waveguide to make the twist. � From: Dan Petermann Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � Hmm, now I am not so sure. � Is it the orientation of the waveguide that determines the polarity or the orientation of the probe? � For example, waveguide exits the radio with wider dimension in a left/right direction, and enters antenna in a up/down direction, did the polarization of the signal rotate 90 degrees? � On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If you ever need to question this again, it is opposite the major dimension.� If you could see the little probe /antenna that feeds the waveguide, you would see it sticking up out of the broad wall.� � The polarization of that little probe is the polarization of the waveguide.� And it is parallel to the short walls.� � From: Dan Petermann Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � Great!� Thanks to all who answered.� � � � � On Feb 18, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Josh I hate to disagree with you here� but a waveguide is a waveguide.� Maybe your link is in the wrong polarization :-) � Top is correct. � *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social:�LinkedIn � *** � From:�Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]�On Behalf Of�Josh Luthman Sent:�Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:55 PM To:�af@afmug.com Subject:�Re: [AFMUG] OT: Waveguide polarization � On SAF CFIP Lumina it was opposite.� Like your first image. � Josh Luthman Office:�937-552-2340 Direct:�937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 � On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: If you have a waveguide connection to an antenna, what direction (up/down or left/right) does the wider portion of the waveguide go? ___ |���� | |���� | = H Pol? |���� | or ___ |������������ | = H Pol? � �
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
The rubber gromits on mine definitely look a lot better. That looks fine if it was 1 of them vertical, but I'd be afraid of dust/dirt getting into it sideways. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to replace it.. [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler] *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
It's not worth the risk of damaging equipment IMO. If this is a common concern, why not have the cable run stop at an outdoor box before going in to the home? UBNT has a solution for this, I know others do as well. http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/ETH-SP/Ethernet_Surge_Protector_DS.pdf -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Open, cheap and fun! From: Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM To: Af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Decent true DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This site was installed before the epmp existed. It is what it is. Not
going to do a forklift upgrade for something that is otherwise working
fine. A better sector, sure. Not a whole new platform.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 8:25 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
What about ePMP. I thought this would sync with the latest 450 software?
Also I have some Arc adjustable on the shelf if you would like to try one.
Adam
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Decent true DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
This needs to sync with a full cluster of Canopy APs that is only 3
miles away.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 5:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
There is always the business case to use another vendor with lower
ROI.
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
On 2/17/2015 3:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
This site is not ABAB. It's not even AB. It is merely A. One
sector; 120° wide, with about 15 subs. About as low as you can
go. The problem is that most of the subs are near the outer
edges of a 120° sector. Dividing it into 2 sectors would be
an option if we had (or expected) more subs, but this one I
don't think that will happen. I'm not inclined to burn a
Canopy AP (or two even) on 7 or 8 subs each.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 12:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I think asking for 3 dB down at 120 degrees in dual pol
with matching patterns, good F/B and good sidelobes is not
going to happen. I’d plan on ABAB and look for a 90 degree
sector.
H, the published patterns for the KPP “Gen III” are
kind of ugly, aren’t they? Plus the HPOL and VPOL azimuth
patterns don’t match very well.
*From:*Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com
*Sent:*Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:05 PM
*To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG]Decent true DP 120° sector in 5 GHz
I thought the KP sectors were suppose to be -3db at 120...
I think almost everything is rated at -6db now.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Adam Moffett
dmmoff...@gmail.com mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
The new 120 is the old 90search for something
advertised as wider than 120 I guess?
What I'm looking for is a 120° sector that drops off
no more than 3db at the edges. The 6 db bull that
seems to be common these days is not what I'm
looking for.
Also want good F/B ratio, good cross-pol
performance, and tiny side lobes. In perfect world, it
would drop off 30db at 121°.
I want a pony too.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 10:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Good drop off is a good thing IMO.
If you want less drop off probably go with an
original Airmaxsector. Those things bleed for
days and the f/b isn't verygood. We installed
half a dozen people 180* off one ofthem.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
No one?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 9:55 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Has anyone found a decent TRUE 120°
dual-polarity sector in 5 GHz? We're using a
KP on one of our POPs and the drop-off at the edge
of the 120° is just too much for ourtaste.
Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode?
If he's talking about the tower I think he's talking about. The new one is like 50' from the old one. From my house I can't see the old tower anymore because the new one is in the way. Hey bro: where's the 450 SM for my house? Hook a brother up. Are subscribers re-aligned to new tower location? On 02/19/2015 10:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I would look at signal and modulation level to see if you lost something moving to the new tower. Like maybe you had a bunch of SMs that were at 3X but now are at 2X for some reason. Is the new tower in exactly the same spot as the old one? If not, did you re-align the SMs? Also the new sector antenna might have a little different gain or pattern, or maybe you need to tweak the orientation or downtilt. This is a sector not an omni, right? There is also a setting in compatibility mode to choose MIMO-A or SISO, I think that only matters on marginal links. I have ours set to the default which I believe is MIMO-A, but you could experiment with it. I really hate having links at 1X anyway, so assuming yours are mostly 3X with the occasional 2X, this should only matter during a fading or interference situation. *From:* Sam Kirsch mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We weren't capping out the 430AP, no. It was replaced because the tower was replaced and in order to get a smooth transition and keep an eye towards the future we put a 450AP on the new tower and just swapped the SM's into Interoperability mode and moved them to the new color code. We figured we would see at least equal if not better performance, which it sounds like should be the case. I guess I'll proceed with the assumption that performance across the AP isn't the issue, thanks! *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net wlmailhtml:www.plexicomm.net** Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | *sam...@plexicomm.net* mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net* -- Original Message -- From: Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: 2/18/2015 4:15:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We have done this multiple times. I would expect to see performance basically double for any customer you switch from a 430SM to a 450SM. Overall throughput of the AP should increase pretty proportionally as you replace 430 SM's with 450's. If you were capping out the 430 (which seems odd if you were only pushing 24Mb), and you didn't swap any of those customers to 450 SM it would still be doing the same as the 430. We are seeing peaks of ~41Mbps on a 450 AP with 83 customers with a split of 63 430 SM's and 20 450 SM's. Yeah, it's probably time for another AP, but I see plenty of customers holding 4 and 6Mb steady. Mark On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sam Kirsch sam...@plexicomm.net mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net wrote: I have a 450 that was very recently put up in place of a 430AP. 16/22 Customers are 430s in Interop mode, the rest are 450s. What can I expect as maximum throughput? I was sort of expecting greater or equal performance to a 430, but I've had a lot of odd feeback from customers since we switched this over from a 430 AP to a 450AP with mostly 430SMs. I only have one Microtik at a customer location that I can do a bandwidth tests too but it's a rate limited SM, so its a little hard to gauge based on that alone. Most of the time it seems like there should be plenty of bandwidth available, but just getting too much odd feedback to not check out all the possibilities. The bandwidth usage charge also tracks a falling utilization over the past few weeks. I've gone from seeing peaks at 22-24mpbs to peaks at 12-15mbps. Nothing should have changed out there as far as usage, I'd still be expecting to see something in the neighborhood of 22-24 on average. If anything it should be pushing more as the schools are all off for a week. Does anyone have any sort of clear info on what we should be expecting here? *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions |www.plexicomm.net x-msg://20/www.plexicomm.net** Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 |*sam...@plexicomm.net* mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net*
[AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
We've had installers fry power supplies crimping them while plugged in. If you had a punch down lightning arrestor, it could work. But I'd strip the wire and cut each cable individually. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
If you are careful when you open the jacket and only cut the blue, then brown pair and don't short them it can be done. Problem is when you re-crimp you short the PoE to the Ethernet and there is no way to avoid that unless you are punching it down or using the crimp caps. In general I would do it in a pinch, but I don't trust installers to do it... -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Does this mean I should stop trash talking you here? I might have said something about your mother yesterday. Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message-
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the
Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the
splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I
didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to
the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Couth? Nobody threw me out, so I'm assuming not... On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Animal Farm is couth now? OMG, just like the book, are the pigs walking upright, wearing clothes and drinking whiskey now? Has Chuck retired his loincloth? *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
I'm pretty sure I've seen plastic crimpers, but I don't know that I'd trust
them to do a decent crimp...
It doesn't seem to hurt most power supplies, but I always try to be quick
about it when I do it... it all depends on the situation though, in some
cases it isn't worth the risk even if it is small.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
That's just the first issue. As someone else mentioned, you also short
all the pins together when you crimp the RJ45 on. Are there plastic or
ceramic crimpers?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I guess you could buy ceramic scissors like these:
http://www.mtesolutionsinc.com/11802-Ceramic-Scissors-5-p/11802.htm
-Original Message- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Gotta be careful. If you cut across all the pairs at the same time, you
will definitely short the output of the POE injector. Newer ones might
be able to deal with that as long as the short doesn't last too long.
However, you can usually cut each color separately without doing any
harm. The challenge is getting them the same length.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/19/2015 10:13 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying
stuff?
I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the
Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too?
I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the
splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I
didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the
outside of the house.
[AFMUG] WoooWooW......or knology
Seems we're outgrowing yet another circuit and ordering a renewal. WOW/knology came in about $300 under the other bids we received so we're probably going to place an order with them. Anyone have horror stories to share? What should we look out for? Thanks! Jay Fuller
Re: [AFMUG] WoooWooW......or knology
WOW the cable company? Highest price I've seen on transport. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: memb...@wispa.org, af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:24:54 PM Subject: [AFMUG] WoooWooW..or knology Seems we're outgrowing yet another circuit and ordering a renewal. WOW/knology came in about $300 under the other bids we received so we're probably going to place an order with them. Anyone have horror stories to share? What should we look out for? Thanks! Jay Fuller
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Stranded cable just doesn't punch down on standard 110-type "teeth" at all, it'll always be bad results. Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com Sierra Leone (Africell): +232-88-284222 Sierra Leone (Airtel) +232-79-107461 Ghana (MTN): +233-5478-81863 Iridium: +1-480-768-2500 followed by 8816-234-59301 Vancouver: +1-604-783-3317 Skype: erickuhnke On 2/19/15 8:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: You know the more that I think about this, I'm thinking you're right. There are 7 different boxes of cable next to me, and none of them are stranded. The dozens of pre-made patch cables from 0.5ft to 50ft above them though are all stranded. I can't imagine trying to punch down a stranded cable :) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think that’s right. Stranded should only be used for patch cords which need to withstand flexing, otherwise all cable both indoors and out should be solid. Not to say there aren’t homeowners who have pulled a 50 ft patch cord from Best Buy through their walls, but you should very rarely encounter stranded cable in permanent wiring. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Depends on what market you are in. If you're in general IT doing things indoors, it's normally stranded. Most outdoor stuff I've seen is solid. (side note: f@#k stranded CatX) -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 02/19/2015 09:07 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Would that work for Cat6 end to end splicing? I forget if Cat5e and Cat6 cable are usually solid core. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing He might have been talking about the ScotchLok U1R They take a pair and splice to another pair. You can keep them twisted right up until they go into the connector On 2/19/2015 11:23 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly,
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
The problem is my bite. That last thing I'll fret over are scars to my hide. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: They don’t bite too hard over here Patrick… too hard :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Someday Chuck your drinks are on me. Bill wise, not poured on me like a spurned woman. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Pete's drinking from a fire hose. It's likely the best sales gig he's ever had or will have. His challenge is keeping up. In his words, I feel like Lucy in the conveyor belt scene from I Love Lucy. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Funny, I just said on LinkedIn to Pete Vavra – a co-worker of mine from my BridgeWave days that just joined Telrad as the East Coast Sales Director that I think he made a great decision and to say hi to Patrick for me. I have high respect for Patrick… can’t speak to the Telrad product though (or SAF can in any way) – you guys will have to do that for me. As a rule of thumb, I don’t comment on other vendors products anymore :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:55 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Does that mean Patrick's posts are approved by SAF? On Feb 19, 2015 1:26 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: They don’t bite too hard over here Patrick… too hard :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:17 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! *From:* Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM *To:* Af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
Funny, I just said on LinkedIn to Pete Vavra – a co-worker of mine from my BridgeWave days that just joined Telrad as the East Coast Sales Director that I think he made a great decision and to say hi to Patrick for me. I have high respect for Patrick… can’t speak to the Telrad product though (or SAF can in any way) – you guys will have to do that for me. As a rule of thumb, I don’t comment on other vendors products anymore :-) Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:55 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Does that mean Patrick's posts are approved by SAF? On Feb 19, 2015 1:26 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com mailto:afmu...@gmail.com wrote: They don’t bite too hard over here Patrick… too hard :-) *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? We like vendors on the list. Public floggings are our thing, and sometimes ballgags, but ken keeps those and decides who gets the gimp suit. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Open, cheap and fun! From: Patrick Leary mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:49 AM To: Af@afmug.com mailto:Af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right? Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com mailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] pmailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
boss is ordering a couple of those On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to replace it.. [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler] *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
Per UL requirements, almost all transformer style power bricks will incorporate a (non field replaceable) fuse. If you short the output, the fuse pops. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? +1 :) On 02/19/2015 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
Re: [AFMUG] WoooWooW......or knology
What is their dedicated upstream like? On 02/19/2015 03:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: WOW the cable company? Highest price I've seen on transport. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *memb...@wispa.org, af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:24:54 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] WoooWooW..or knology Seems we're outgrowing yet another circuit and ordering a renewal. WOW/knology came in about $300 under the other bids we received so we're probably going to place an order with them. Anyone have horror stories to share? What should we look out for? Thanks! Jay Fuller
Re: [AFMUG] WoooWooW......or knology
Ask for a quote for GigE and see what kind of pricing they do. Stop asking for 100-200 Megs as the price per meg is so high. Ask for a Gig and see what happens and then have providers bid against each other. Ask for pricing for Internet and then separately, ask for transport to the nearest datacenter with Hurricane Electric and Cogent. You might only need 200 Meg but if you can get a Gig for a little more, you can sell that extra bandwidth cheap to a business or school and now you have plenty of bandwidth to play with. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:15 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: What is their dedicated upstream like? On 02/19/2015 03:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: WOW the cable company? Highest price I've seen on transport. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *memb...@wispa.org, af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:24:54 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] WoooWooW..or knology Seems we're outgrowing yet another circuit and ordering a renewal. WOW/knology came in about $300 under the other bids we received so we're probably going to place an order with them. Anyone have horror stories to share? What should we look out for? Thanks! Jay Fuller -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
Re: [AFMUG] WoooWooW......or knology
Just watch those busy peering connections with the low cost providers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WoooWooW..or knology Ask for a quote for GigE and see what kind of pricing they do. Stop asking for 100-200 Megs as the price per meg is so high. Ask for a Gig and see what happens and then have providers bid against each other. Ask for pricing for Internet and then separately, ask for transport to the nearest datacenter with Hurricane Electric and Cogent. You might only need 200 Meg but if you can get a Gig for a little more, you can sell that extra bandwidth cheap to a business or school and now you have plenty of bandwidth to play with. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:15 PM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: What is their dedicated upstream like? On 02/19/2015 03:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: blockquote WOW the cable company? Highest price I've seen on transport. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: memb...@wispa.org , af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:24:54 PM Subject: [AFMUG] WoooWooW..or knology Seems we're outgrowing yet another circuit and ordering a renewal. WOW/knology came in about $300 under the other bids we received so we're probably going to place an order with them. Anyone have horror stories to share? What should we look out for? Thanks! Jay Fuller /blockquote -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
[AFMUG] Microsoft
WhoHoo!! One of the companies I have been working with for the last 9 months, and invested capital about three months ago, was just accepted into the Microsoft Ventures Accelerator program!! Microsoft receives thousands of applications every year, but they only select a few companies every four months. They give you $25,000 and help you take your business to the next level... all without taking any equity or stake in the company. This is an amazing accomplishment for a woman (the CEO) who has had amazing struggles and accomplishments in her life so far. You can see more info about the company on the website at www.lionheartinnovations.com. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I was the one that you were talking to at AF. I've been using these for years. I still try to protect them from water by wrapping in mastic, electrical tape, and putting them in a box. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: None of those. You want Thomas and Betts 709 SC. End-to-end splice. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: boss is ordering a couple of those On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to replace it.. [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler] *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
[AFMUG] OT - Elbonian Internet outage
Dilbert was sent to destroy the Elbonian Internet in retaliation for an (alleged) hacking attack. How will they survive with no Internet?
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live?
If it is a splice you can do as mentioned here and strip back and cut each wire separately and then use those gel splice connectors that I sent you a link to. It's completely safe and won't short like crimping a RJ45. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Per UL requirements, almost all transformer style power bricks will incorporate a (non field replaceable) fuse. If you short the output, the fuse pops. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? +1 :) On 02/19/2015 12:15 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Don't do it on an old canopy power supply. It will blow it for certain. (Talking about the old original units, not the switchmode powersupply units). -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:13 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5/6 POE splicing while live? Is it possible to cut into a POE injected Cat5/6 run without frying stuff? I think I've done it on regular Ethernet without causing damage to the Ethernet port, but maybe I'm pushing it with that too? I know the safest way is to unplug the Ethernet cable, then do the splice/work/end on it, then plug it back in, but would be really nice if I didn't have to bother the home owner when fixing/splicing a live run to the outside of the house.
[AFMUG] airfiber 24 collocation
We are deploying our first ever Af24 on a water tower. We will be aiming due north There is an AF24 about 10ft away aimed east. Will we have any collocation problems? I have installed 23Ghz and 18ghz collated on the same tower no problem... just wondering if this is similar. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
None of those. You want Thomas and Betts 709 SC. End-to-end splice. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 2:49 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: boss is ordering a couple of those On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I like the look of Jerry’s solution best.. $16 and I wouldn’t feel I need to replace it.. [image: Waterproof Shielded RJ45 Female to Female Field Installable Coupler] *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] airfiber 24 collocation
You should not have any problems with that. Chuck On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com wrote: We are deploying our first ever Af24 on a water tower. We will be aiming due north…. There is an AF24 about 10ft away aimed east. Will we have any collocation problems? I have installed 23Ghz and 18ghz collated on the same tower no problem… just wondering if this is similar. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] airfiber 24 collocation
Thanks Chuck. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Macenski Sent: February 19, 2015 10:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airfiber 24 collocation You should not have any problems with that. Chuck On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.commailto:andr...@silowireless.com wrote: We are deploying our first ever Af24 on a water tower. We will be aiming due north…. There is an AF24 about 10ft away aimed east. Will we have any collocation problems? I have installed 23Ghz and 18ghz collated on the same tower no problem… just wondering if this is similar. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowirelesshttp://www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] Microsoft
Congrats! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:51:22 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Microsoft WhoHoo!! One of the companies I have been working with for the last 9 months, and invested capital about three months ago, was just accepted into the Microsoft Ventures Accelerator program!! Microsoft receives thousands of applications every year, but they only select a few companies every four months. They give you $25,000 and help you take your business to the next level... all without taking any equity or stake in the company. This is an amazing accomplishment for a woman (the CEO) who has had amazing struggles and accomplishments in her life so far. You can see more info about the company on the website at www.lionheartinnovations.com. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+/SFP
So disable auto negotiation or just set it to only advertise 1000M full? I only see 10Gbps as being an option when auto negotiation is disabled. On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: Change speed setting inside interface and reboot the router. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','er...@northcentraltower.com'); Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: Can anyone think of any reason the same SFP/fiber will link up when plugged into a SFP port on a CCR, but will never establish a link when plugged into a SFP+ port?
Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?
True story. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Feb 19, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.commailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: That's the wireless industry in general. On Feb 19, 2015 9:38 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.usmailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote: Also just FYI it's like the hotel California...you can check out but you can never leave ;-) On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.commailto:patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. I love the earthy smell. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: welcome to the Farm! On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com wrote: Okay then. I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of threads where I don't belong. We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there. Cheers, Patrick -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address] -- Patrick Leary Director BD, North America, Telrad 727.501.3735tel:727.501.3735 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG] patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate address]
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
We use those for our ptp800 dishes and for the 450 panels Mainly use the MTOW-3P-36 for Sector mounting using the 450 gear On 02/19/2015 09:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: MTOW-P http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 *From:* Vince West mailto:vi...@shelbybb.com *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com mailto:rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
These are my favorite, at least for tower work. On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: MTOW-P http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 *From:* Vince West javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vi...@shelbybb.com'); *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower I would use an M-TOW http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 or M-TOW-10 http://www.wbmfg.com/pdf.cfm/WBMfg-Tower%20Mount.pdf?pid=27 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rm...@corp.mdswireless.com'); wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
[AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this?
Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode?
I would look at signal and modulation level to see if you lost something moving to the new tower. Like maybe you had a bunch of SMs that were at 3X but now are at 2X for some reason. Is the new tower in exactly the same spot as the old one? If not, did you re-align the SMs? Also the new sector antenna might have a little different gain or pattern, or maybe you need to tweak the orientation or downtilt. This is a sector not an omni, right? There is also a setting in compatibility mode to choose MIMO-A or SISO, I think that only matters on marginal links. I have ours set to the default which I believe is MIMO-A, but you could experiment with it. I really hate having links at 1X anyway, so assuming yours are mostly 3X with the occasional 2X, this should only matter during a fading or interference situation. From: Sam Kirsch Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We weren't capping out the 430AP, no. It was replaced because the tower was replaced and in order to get a smooth transition and keep an eye towards the future we put a 450AP on the new tower and just swapped the SM's into Interoperability mode and moved them to the new color code. We figured we would see at least equal if not better performance, which it sounds like should be the case. I guess I'll proceed with the assumption that performance across the AP isn't the issue, thanks! -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | sam...@plexicomm.net -- Original Message -- From: Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/18/2015 4:15:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We have done this multiple times. I would expect to see performance basically double for any customer you switch from a 430SM to a 450SM. Overall throughput of the AP should increase pretty proportionally as you replace 430 SM's with 450's. If you were capping out the 430 (which seems odd if you were only pushing 24Mb), and you didn't swap any of those customers to 450 SM it would still be doing the same as the 430. We are seeing peaks of ~41Mbps on a 450 AP with 83 customers with a split of 63 430 SM's and 20 450 SM's. Yeah, it's probably time for another AP, but I see plenty of customers holding 4 and 6Mb steady. Mark On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sam Kirsch sam...@plexicomm.net wrote: I have a 450 that was very recently put up in place of a 430AP. 16/22 Customers are 430s in Interop mode, the rest are 450s. What can I expect as maximum throughput? I was sort of expecting greater or equal performance to a 430, but I've had a lot of odd feeback from customers since we switched this over from a 430 AP to a 450AP with mostly 430SMs. I only have one Microtik at a customer location that I can do a bandwidth tests too but it's a rate limited SM, so its a little hard to gauge based on that alone. Most of the time it seems like there should be plenty of bandwidth available, but just getting too much odd feedback to not check out all the possibilities. The bandwidth usage charge also tracks a falling utilization over the past few weeks. I've gone from seeing peaks at 22-24mpbs to peaks at 12-15mbps. Nothing should have changed out there as far as usage, I'd still be expecting to see something in the neighborhood of 22-24 on average. If anything it should be pushing more as the schools are all off for a week. Does anyone have any sort of clear info on what we should be expecting here? -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | sam...@plexicomm.net
Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode?
Are subscribers re-aligned to new tower location? On 02/19/2015 10:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I would look at signal and modulation level to see if you lost something moving to the new tower. Like maybe you had a bunch of SMs that were at 3X but now are at 2X for some reason. Is the new tower in exactly the same spot as the old one? If not, did you re-align the SMs? Also the new sector antenna might have a little different gain or pattern, or maybe you need to tweak the orientation or downtilt. This is a sector not an omni, right? There is also a setting in compatibility mode to choose MIMO-A or SISO, I think that only matters on marginal links. I have ours set to the default which I believe is MIMO-A, but you could experiment with it. I really hate having links at 1X anyway, so assuming yours are mostly 3X with the occasional 2X, this should only matter during a fading or interference situation. *From:* Sam Kirsch mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We weren't capping out the 430AP, no. It was replaced because the tower was replaced and in order to get a smooth transition and keep an eye towards the future we put a 450AP on the new tower and just swapped the SM's into Interoperability mode and moved them to the new color code. We figured we would see at least equal if not better performance, which it sounds like should be the case. I guess I'll proceed with the assumption that performance across the AP isn't the issue, thanks! *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net wlmailhtml:www.plexicomm.net** Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | *sam...@plexicomm.net* mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net* -- Original Message -- From: Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net mailto:m...@amplex.net To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Sent: 2/18/2015 4:15:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Expected throughput on 450APs handling a fair amount of 430SMs on Interop mode? We have done this multiple times. I would expect to see performance basically double for any customer you switch from a 430SM to a 450SM. Overall throughput of the AP should increase pretty proportionally as you replace 430 SM's with 450's. If you were capping out the 430 (which seems odd if you were only pushing 24Mb), and you didn't swap any of those customers to 450 SM it would still be doing the same as the 430. We are seeing peaks of ~41Mbps on a 450 AP with 83 customers with a split of 63 430 SM's and 20 450 SM's. Yeah, it's probably time for another AP, but I see plenty of customers holding 4 and 6Mb steady. Mark On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Sam Kirsch sam...@plexicomm.net mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net wrote: I have a 450 that was very recently put up in place of a 430AP. 16/22 Customers are 430s in Interop mode, the rest are 450s. What can I expect as maximum throughput? I was sort of expecting greater or equal performance to a 430, but I've had a lot of odd feeback from customers since we switched this over from a 430 AP to a 450AP with mostly 430SMs. I only have one Microtik at a customer location that I can do a bandwidth tests too but it's a rate limited SM, so its a little hard to gauge based on that alone. Most of the time it seems like there should be plenty of bandwidth available, but just getting too much odd feedback to not check out all the possibilities. The bandwidth usage charge also tracks a falling utilization over the past few weeks. I've gone from seeing peaks at 22-24mpbs to peaks at 12-15mbps. Nothing should have changed out there as far as usage, I'd still be expecting to see something in the neighborhood of 22-24 on average. If anything it should be pushing more as the schools are all off for a week. Does anyone have any sort of clear info on what we should be expecting here? *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions |www.plexicomm.net x-msg://20/www.plexicomm.net** Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 |*sam...@plexicomm.net* mailto:sam...@plexicomm.net*
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower
I’m just thinking you might want two points of attachment to the tower and a longer pipe for mounting a Cyclone. Another question is, since it’s an omni, how much standoff does he want from the tower to avoid the tower affecting the antenna pattern. The lower the frequency, the farther you probably need to be away from the tower. From: David Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower We use those for our ptp800 dishes and for the 450 panels Mainly use the MTOW-3P-36 for Sector mounting using the 450 gear On 02/19/2015 09:37 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: MTOW-P http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=34 From: Vince West Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mount for tower I would use an M-TOW or M-TOW-10 (not sure what the spacing is on the bracket for the Cyclone AP). I use a lot of the M-TOW-10 just because I like having the extra space on the mount. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower…what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage
Can you automate adding customers with PRTG? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage PRTG is well worth the cost if you want something that is robust, easy to setup and manage and just works, every day. MRTG, and CACTI are good free (donations suggested) solutions but require a bit more hands on. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage if he wants to pay PRTG free you can do MRTG On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: A customer of mine is needing a simple program for monitoring custom OIDs for traffic(Mikrotik Queues). Software needs to be able to display total GB usage on a monthly basis maybe even 95th percentile. Any suggestions? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this?
Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage
PRTG is well worth the cost if you want something that is robust, easy to setup and manage and just works, every day. MRTG, and CACTI are good free (donations suggested) solutions but require a bit more hands on. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage if he wants to pay PRTG free you can do MRTG On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: A customer of mine is needing a simple program for monitoring custom OIDs for traffic(Mikrotik Queues). Software needs to be able to display total GB usage on a monthly basis maybe even 95th percentile. Any suggestions? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 tel:630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 tel:630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
SAF. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this?
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz mailto:je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
What is the price? I would like to find something to look for noise on electrical outlets to help ethernet powerline adapters work better. From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
I used the Aaronia when I was with ESS...worked welllooks like a space gun from 1950's sci fi movies... it has allot of programmed settings for cellular and wi-fi Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
We’ve been using these – the are bit less that the Bulgin and work as well: http://www.vpi.us/wtp-rj45-coupler.html Not sure how I feel about using crimp splice but if they are reliable I might try it From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
Its been a while so I doubt the pricing is the same. I think we were in for around 1,800 This is 2GHz to 6GHz. Isn’t powerline below 1MHz? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions What is the price? I would like to find something to look for noise on electrical outlets to help ethernet powerline adapters work better. From: Jerry Richardson mailto:je...@richardson.bz Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz mailto:je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
Yep, runs from something like 1 MHz or lower to 86 MHz From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Its been a while so I doubt the pricing is the same. I think we were in for around 1,800 This is 2GHz to 6GHz. Isn’t powerline below 1MHz? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions What is the price? I would like to find something to look for noise on electrical outlets to help ethernet powerline adapters work better. From: Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions We have one. Works well, the LCD is kinda poopy but works in a pinch. The real power is with the software. I’d buy another. thanks From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
Think about microsoft, google, apple, facebook. Do any of those look techy? :)
:: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device
On Feb 19, 2015 3:50 AM, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote:Logo looks to vintage. Not enough tech behind it...Erich KaiserNorth Central Tower Consultingerich@northcentraltower.comOffice: 630-621-4804Cell: 630-777-9291
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Ken Hohhof afmug@kwisp.com wrote:
Aha.
www.risebroadband.net
From: Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I hear that the new name is Rise Broadband. This post seems
to confirm the rumor: http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-JAB-Broadband-RVW5530768.htm
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Tyler Treat tyler.treat@cornbelttech.com wrote:
Prairie was in IL, but i think the old DTNSpeednet bought a good chunk of
that, which over time became Speednet/then Keyon, then JAB - and JAB also
bought the other part of Prairie in Iowa. All the Keyon stuff down here
was rebranded T6.
From: Af af-bounces@afmug.com
on behalf of Mathew Howard mhoward841@gmail.comSent: Wednesday, February
18, 2015 11:29 AMTo: afSubject: Re: [AFMUG]
T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I know they go into the southwest corner of Wisconsin, so I
assumed theyre in north western Illinois too, but I thought T6 was pretty
much across the whole middle of the state... maybe theyre kind of mixed
because of stuff they had there before they bought T6...
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Mike Hammett
afmug@ics-il.net wrote:
Prairie
ONetime was in Illinois at one point, IIRC, but as it wasnt near me, I
cant be certain.-Mike HammettIntelligent
Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com-
Original Message -From: Mathew Howard mhoward841@gmail.comTo: af af@afmug.comSent: Wed,
18 Feb 2015 11:06:57 -0600 (CST)Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on
PandoraI dont think Prairie Inet goes that far east...
I think pretty much allJAB in Illinois is T6.On Wed, Feb 18,
2015 at 10:59 AM, Ken Hohhof afmug@kwisp.com wrote: Are they T6 by you,
or Prairie Inet? And what happened to their rumored national
re-branding? Was that a hoax? No, the Google finds this quote from a
magazine article in mid-2014: “If readers haven’t
heard of JAB, they may be familiar with one of the company’s five
brand names, which include Prairie iNet, SKYBEAM, Digis, T6 and
Rhino Communications. Within the next year, JAB hopes to
convert to just a single brand,
however.” *From:* That One Guy thatoneguysteve@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday,
February 18, 2015 10:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on
Pandora I love/hate T6, I dont like them because
theyre Jab, but I love that they just decide they dont like a site
anymore and tell their customers to punch sand, so we get to be like
that creepy friend who hangs out in the shadows waiting for you and
your old lady to get in a fight so we can swoop in and put the
hammer down On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Bill Prince
part15sbs@gmail.com wrote: This
place is a laugh a minute. bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On
2/17/2015 8:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: So many jokes
there... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 17, 2015 11:00 PM,
Sterling Jacobson sterling@avative.net
wrote: Oh right. That was a distant
memory…
*From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh
Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:55
PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
T6(JAB) Ad on
Pandora
...Jab. As mentioned in the subject. As in the company you sold
to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne
St Suite 1337 Troy, OH
45373 On Feb 17, 2015 10:52 PM, Sterling
Jacobson sterling@avative.net
wrote: That’s cool, what’s
T6?
*From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich
Kaiser *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:51
PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad
on Pandora
[image:
Inline image
1]
-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you cant get them together again, there must be a
reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Simple SNMP monitoring for traffic usage
if he wants to pay PRTG free you can do MRTG On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: A customer of mine is needing a simple program for monitoring custom OIDs for traffic(Mikrotik Queues). Software needs to be able to display total GB usage on a monthly basis maybe even 95th percentile. Any suggestions? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower Consulting er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
SAF. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 9:46 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
It really gets under my skin when companies have expired promotions still
listed
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
It’s retro broadband because it isn’t 25/3?
*From:* Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:50 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
Logo looks to vintage. Not enough tech behind it...
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Aha.
www.risebroadband.net
*From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I hear that the new name is Rise Broadband. This post seems to confirm
the rumor:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-JAB-Broadband-RVW5530768.htm
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Tyler Treat
tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote:
Prairie was in IL, but i think the old DTNSpeednet bought a good chunk
of that, which over time became Speednet/then Keyon, then JAB - and JAB
also bought the other part of Prairie in Iowa. All the Keyon stuff down
here was rebranded T6.
--
*From:* Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard
mhoward...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:29 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I know they go into the southwest corner of Wisconsin, so I assumed
they're in north western Illinois too, but I thought T6 was pretty much
across the whole middle of the state... maybe they're kind of mixed because
of stuff they had there before they bought T6...
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Prairie ONetime was in Illinois at one point, IIRC, but as it wasn't
near me, I can't be certain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:06:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I don't think Prairie Inet goes that far east... I think pretty much all
JAB in Illinois is T6.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Are they T6 by you, or Prairie Inet?
And what happened to their rumored national re-branding? Was that a
hoax? No, the Google finds this quote from a magazine article in
mid-2014:
“If readers haven’t heard of JAB, they may be familiar with one of the
company’s five brand names, which include Prairie iNet, SKYBEAM,
Digis, T6
and Rhino Communications.
Within the next year, JAB hopes to convert to just a single brand,
however.”
*From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I love/hate T6, I dont like them because theyre Jab, but I love that
they just decide they dont like a site anymore and tell their
customers to
punch sand, so we get to be like that creepy friend who hangs out in
the
shadows waiting for you and your old lady to get in a fight so we can
swoop
in and put the hammer down
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
This place is a laugh a minute.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 8:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So many jokes there...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 11:00 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
Oh right. That was a distant memory…
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh
Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
...Jab. As mentioned in the subject. As in the company you sold to.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 10:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
That’s cool, what’s T6?
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich
Kaiser
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
[image: Inline image 1]
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again,
[AFMUG] mount for tower
I need to mount an omni cyclone on the side of the dmx tower...what tower mount should I get from wb manufacturing? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
It’s retro broadband because it isn’t 25/3?
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
Logo looks to vintage. Not enough tech behind it...
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Aha.
www.risebroadband.net
From: Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I hear that the new name is Rise Broadband. This post seems to confirm the
rumor:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-JAB-Broadband-RVW5530768.htm
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
wrote:
Prairie was in IL, but i think the old DTNSpeednet bought a good chunk of
that, which over time became Speednet/then Keyon, then JAB - and JAB also
bought the other part of Prairie in Iowa. All the Keyon stuff down here was
rebranded T6.
From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Mathew Howard
mhoward...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:29 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I know they go into the southwest corner of Wisconsin, so I assumed they're
in north western Illinois too, but I thought T6 was pretty much across the
whole middle of the state... maybe they're kind of mixed because of stuff they
had there before they bought T6...
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Prairie ONetime was in Illinois at one point, IIRC, but as it wasn't near
me, I can't be certain.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
To: af af@afmug.com
Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:06:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I don't think Prairie Inet goes that far east... I think pretty much all
JAB in Illinois is T6.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Are they T6 by you, or Prairie Inet?
And what happened to their rumored national re-branding? Was that a
hoax? No, the Google finds this quote from a magazine article in
mid-2014:
“If readers haven’t heard of JAB, they may be familiar with one of the
company’s five brand names, which include Prairie iNet, SKYBEAM, Digis,
T6
and Rhino Communications.
Within the next year, JAB hopes to convert to just a single brand,
however.”
*From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
I love/hate T6, I dont like them because theyre Jab, but I love that
they just decide they dont like a site anymore and tell their customers
to
punch sand, so we get to be like that creepy friend who hangs out in the
shadows waiting for you and your old lady to get in a fight so we can
swoop
in and put the hammer down
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
This place is a laugh a minute.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/17/2015 8:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So many jokes there...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 11:00 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
Oh right. That was a distant memory…
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
...Jab. As mentioned in the subject. As in the company you sold to.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 17, 2015 10:52 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net
wrote:
That’s cool, what’s T6?
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Erich Kaiser
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 6:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] T6(JAB) Ad on Pandora
[image: Inline image 1]
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling
Re: [AFMUG] Viruses on steroids
We are all going to die. Its human nature to destroy everything, technology is no different. Im waiting for a mobile virus that causes batteries to overheat and explode if it senses its in a pocket On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: http://www.popsci.com/most-sophisticated-malware-ever-can-infect-hard-drive-firmware Rory -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
Look up 3M ScotchLok. Our guys use them all the time. I once used them to splice together a 300ft. CAT5 cable running up the tower that was cut at the base by a tower climber. Worked great for temporary use. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I was curious about that product as well. Nate Burke wrote: I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions
Jerry, do you have any personal experience with this unit? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: http://www.aaronia.com/ *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Hand Held Spectrum Analyzer suggestions Can anyone recommend a hand held spectrum analyzer that a novice could operate effectively? Must be capable of connecting external antennas and must support 2ghz up to 6ghz.
Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing
I emailed him directly, but didn't hear back. Thought maybe he'd see it on the list. Nate On 2/19/2015 10:54 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: Wasn't it the guy that toured Sterling's facility with us? I didn't get his card but I think Jay Fuller did. Nate Burke wrote: I wouldn't use the pictured one either, but supposedly there is a product like this, but specific for Cat5/6 where the pair go into the connector. It would replace doing a punchdown splice block or RJ45 coupler. On 2/19/2015 10:50 AM, That One Guy wrote: we have come across a few customer splices using the redcaps, if theyre going to splice themselves, at least theyre using a quality product to do it wrong On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There's a shielded one at Mouser. I would never use what's in that picture for ethernet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 19, 2015 11:42 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do you have a partnumber/distributor? On 2/19/2015 10:40 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: We use them. Gel filled so they are water resistant. Adam *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:38 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cat5 Splicing Out at AF I was talking to some who said that they were using a Cat5 splice product. They described it as being similar to a butt connector Image result for cat5 splice keep twist but was specifically made to accept the Cat5 twist, so that the twist went all the way into the unit to splice with another twist. I've been searching around, but haven't been able to find them. I can see this being better than trying to do an RJ45 coupler in some situations. Anybody use something similar to this? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
