Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[TJ Trout]

Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and
> watching Hangar 1.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
>>
>> I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>> No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if
>> you're eager.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>> They available ?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Call SAF support?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>> Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration
>> setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when
>> inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios!
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[Josh Reynolds]

Probably on the website in the support area?
On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and watching Hangar 1.  
Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:No idea.  Email and they'll answer I'm sure.  Phone call can't hurt if you're eager.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:They available ?
On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:Call SAF support?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios! 

Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[TJ Trout]

nope

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Probably on the website in the support area?
> On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
> On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and
> watching Hangar 1.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
>
> I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if
> you're eager.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
> They available ?
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> Call SAF support?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
> Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration
> setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when
> inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios!
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[TJ Trout]

Jeez, u think I'm an idiot, this isn't the ubiquiti forums! :)

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:49 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:

> nope
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Probably on the website in the support area?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>> Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and
>> watching Hangar 1.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>> Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
>>
>> I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>> No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if
>> you're eager.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>> They available ?
>> On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Call SAF support?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>>
>> Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration
>> setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when
>> inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios!
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[Josh Reynolds]

...
I'm not the one trying to configure new hardware on a Friday.
On Jun 12, 2015 11:49 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:Jeez, u think I'm an idiot, this isn't the ubiquiti forums! :)On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:49 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:nopeOn Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:Probably on the website in the support area?
On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and watching Hangar 1.  
Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:No idea.  Email and they'll answer I'm sure.  Phone call can't hurt if you're eager.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:They available ?
On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:Call SAF support?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios! 

Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[Daniel White]

I’d also note, techsupp...@saftehnika.com   
responds to e-mails 24/7, although there are admittingly fewer resources during 
the weekends and off hours than during normal business hours.



***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic



Jeez, u think I'm an idiot, this isn't the ubiquiti forums! :)



On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:49 AM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

nope



On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> > wrote:

Probably on the website in the support area?

On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > 
wrote:

Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?

On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and 
watching Hangar 1.

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> > wrote:

Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...

I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.

On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > 
wrote:

No one has xpic luminas they can login to?

On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if you're 
eager.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > 
wrote:

They available ?

On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Call SAF support?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout" mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > 
wrote:

Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration setting? We 
just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when inputting the 
aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios!







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[AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Daniel White]

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about
a major change for me personally.

 

It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing
SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working
for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I
have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the
finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is
time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.

 

I'm not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring
many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.

 

My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com
 . 

 

SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and
I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.
The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail
at sale...@saftehnika.com   or our technical
support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com
 .

 

I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again
in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the
shadows for awhile.  

 

***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

Skype: danieldwhite
Social:   LinkedIn

 

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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope you 
are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
> 
> The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about 
> a major change for me personally.
>  
> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
> decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing 
> SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working 
> for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I 
> have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the 
> finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is 
> time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.
>  
> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring 
> many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.
>  
> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach 
> out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>  
> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and 
> I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  
> The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
> sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail 
> at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>  
> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in 
> the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
> shadows for awhile. 
>  
> ***
> Daniel White
> SAF North America LLC
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn
>  
> ***
>  
> 
> 
>   
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes. We do.  Keep us posted. If you need a place to store those spectrum
analyzers I have space.  Lol. Best wishes.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 13, 2015 5:53 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope
> you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we
> can get!
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>
> The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
> about a major change for me personally.
>
>
>
> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my
> decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing
> SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed
> working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the
> people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some
> of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.
> But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring
> many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.
>
>
>
> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>
>
>
> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>
>
>
> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again
> in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the
> shadows for awhile.
>
>
>
> ***
>
> Daniel White
>
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn 
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP320 Sync Help

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I don't remember..  Does the 320 have a screen with additional gps info,
I.e. Satellites tracked, etc?
On Jun 12, 2015 5:21 PM, "Chris Fabien"  wrote:

> I have a PMP320 AP losing sync, if I reboot the AP it will show Sync for a
> few minutes, then show Sync 1PPS Lost, sometimes it will appear to switch
> back and forth. Also seen No Sync. When showing no sync, the stations seem
> to be continually re-registering.
>
> This is using a sync pipe with timing cable. Of course I'm out of town for
> the weekend with no spare APs or sync pipes on hand to have a climber try
> swapping.
>
> Any thoughts as to what piece might be the problem or a way to get it back
> online? Never seen one do this before, we only have a few of these APs on
> the network.
>
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux PDU, backwards ports

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Yep, just like all of them we've shipped so far.

That is, unless it hasn't been made and shipped yet.  In which case it
could be either way depending on exact timing here.
On Jun 12, 2015 7:43 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

>  Just ordered another one today. I can let you know if it's backwards or
> not. Sounds like it will be?
>
> On 6/12/2015 8:19 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Awesome, thanks.
>
> On 6/12/2015 4:41 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> Yep.  We screwed up the software labeling somehow so it doesn't match the
> label.  I've got patched software that I just need to verify matches the
> label and that all of the overcurrent stuff still works after the fix.  I
> honestly had thought that this had been completed and that we were already
> shipping revised code until someone asked about it a week ago.  A look in
> the code confirms a fix was applied but I can't confirm it was tested so
> that's where we stand.
>
> Unfortunately, the workbench with all the relevant tools on it has been
> tied up this week with a project which was in the "a lot of pieces which
> are all wired together and impossible to move without wrecking everything"
> stage so I haven't been able to verify the fix.   That project is finally
> in a more moveable format and I should be able to compete this testing this
> weekend.  Unless something unexpected happens, look for a firmware release
> most likely late Sunday, with an email to everyone who purchased one
> shortly thereafter.
> On Jun 12, 2015 1:45 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:
>
>> So I just set up two PDU's where the outputs on the label are in the
>> exact opposite order compared to the labels displayed in the web page.  In
>> other words, where the stcker says "out1" the web page says "Output 5".
>>
>> It caused some confusion...and it's a good thing the circuit breakers
>> work :)
>>
>> If this is the way they're all going to be, I can just relabel them in
>> the web page and move on.  If it's an error in assembly I'm worried that
>> any SNMP probes I'm making to track tripped ports are going to be opposite
>> on future units.  Anybody know?
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Daniel White]

Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy and 
start a WISP somewhere :-)



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope you 
are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a 
major change for me personally.



It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many 
options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach 
out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com 
 .



SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I 
expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  The 
entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com   or our technical 
support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com 
 .



I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in 
the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows 
for awhile.



***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

Skype: danieldwhite
Social:   LinkedIn



***






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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Chuck McCown]

Ouray Colorada

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.

 

I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy and 
start a WISP somewhere :-)

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

 

You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope you 
are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about 
a major change for me personally.

   

  It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.

   

  I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring 
many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.

   

  My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach 
out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 

   

  SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and 
I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  The 
entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at 
techsupp...@saftehnika.com.

   

  I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in 
the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows 
for awhile.  

   

  ***

  Daniel White

  SAF North America LLC

  Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

  Skype: danieldwhite
  Social: LinkedIn

   

  ***

   

   


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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Josh Luthman]

Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
WISP market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   Ouray Colorada
>
>  *From:* Daniel White 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>
>
>
> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy
> and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
> Lists
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope
> you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we
> can get!
>
> Jeff Broadwick
>
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>
> 312-205-2519 Office
>
> 574-220-7826 Cell
>
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>
>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
> about a major change for me personally.
>
>
>
> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my
> decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing
> SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed
> working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the
> people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some
> of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.
> But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring
> many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.
>
>
>
> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>
>
>
> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>
>
>
> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again
> in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the
> shadows for awhile.
>
>
>
> ***
>
> Daniel White
>
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn 
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Bill Prince]

Wow. Hope this is a good change for you. Good luck in your future 
endeavors Dan!


bp


On 6/13/2015 4:27 AM, Daniel White wrote:


The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.


It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you 
of my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will 
be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30^th , 2015. I have 
truly enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the 
highest regards for the people I have worked with and the integrity 
they employ in producing some of the finest microwave radios and test 
equipment products in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in 
a new environment with new challenges.


I�m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am 
exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband 
space.


My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can 
personally reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com 
.


SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this 
year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and 
your business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be 
contacted via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com 
 or our technical support team is 
available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com 
.


I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths 
again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may 
lurk in the shadows for awhile.

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe today when someone has a good steady job for several years at the same 
company it feels wrong?

OMG, I’m turning into my dad who worked for the same company for 45 years!

(Or worse, got laid off after 20 years at the same company and no one would 
hire him?)

(Or worse yet, started a WISP.)


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Ouray Colorada

  From: Daniel White 
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

  Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



  I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy 
and start a WISP somewhere :-)



  Daniel White

  (303) 746-3590



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



  You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope 
you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can 
get!

  Jeff Broadwick

  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

  312-205-2519 Office

  574-220-7826 Cell

  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


  On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.



It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring 
many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally 
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 



SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year 
and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  
The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at 
techsupp...@saftehnika.com.



I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again 
in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
shadows for awhile.  



***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn



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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Daniel White]

Best theory ever :-D



https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Ouray Colorada



From: Daniel White 

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy and 
start a WISP somewhere :-)



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope you 
are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a 
major change for me personally.



It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many 
options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach 
out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com 
 .



SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I 
expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  The 
entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com   or our technical 
support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com 
 .



I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in 
the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows 
for awhile.



***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn 



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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Jaime Solorza]

I am so blessed to have skills I can
market.  My brother has a masters in business mgt.   Company moved to
another state and two years later still can't find a decent job with pay
close to what he earned.   They offer him entry level.   He does have a
nice next egg though.  He has GTE package collecting interest.   But it is
harder for us older folks.
Hey...doesn't Telrad need sharp folks in Americas to give Leary some
quality time with family?
Its a thought.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 13, 2015 9:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

>   Maybe today when someone has a good steady job for several years at the
> same company it feels wrong?
>
> OMG, I’m turning into my dad who worked for the same company for 45 years!
>
> (Or worse, got laid off after 20 years at the same company and no one
> would hire him?)
>
> (Or worse yet, started a WISP.)
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:51 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   Ouray Colorada
>>
>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
>> Lists
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>>
>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>> as we can get!
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>
>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>> about a major change for me personally.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>> new challenges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>> space.
>>
>>
>>
>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>> the shadows for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Well, this sucks. Dans responsiveness here was a big contributing factor in
going with SAF. I can bet wherever you go man, the company is acquiring a
valuable asset.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I am so blessed to have skills I can
> market.  My brother has a masters in business mgt.   Company moved to
> another state and two years later still can't find a decent job with pay
> close to what he earned.   They offer him entry level.   He does have a
> nice next egg though.  He has GTE package collecting interest.   But it is
> harder for us older folks.
> Hey...doesn't Telrad need sharp folks in Americas to give Leary some
> quality time with family?
> Its a thought.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jun 13, 2015 9:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>>   Maybe today when someone has a good steady job for several years at
>> the same company it feels wrong?
>>
>> OMG, I’m turning into my dad who worked for the same company for 45 years!
>>
>> (Or worse, got laid off after 20 years at the same company and no one
>> would hire him?)
>>
>> (Or worse yet, started a WISP.)
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
>> WISP market.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>>   Ouray Colorada
>>>
>>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick
>>> - Lists
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>>> as we can get!
>>>
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>>
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>>
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>>
>>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>>> about a major change for me personally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>>> new challenges.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>>> space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>>> the shadows for awhile.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Ken Hohhof]

So which are you?

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Best theory ever :-D

 

https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

 

Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Ouray Colorada

   

  From: Daniel White 

  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

   

  Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.

   

  I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy 
and start a WISP somewhere :-)

   

  Daniel White

  (303) 746-3590

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

   

  You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope 
you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can 
get!

  Jeff Broadwick

  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

  312-205-2519 Office

  574-220-7826 Cell

  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


  On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.

 

It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.

 

I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring 
many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.

 

My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally 
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 

 

SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year 
and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  
The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at 
techsupp...@saftehnika.com.

 

I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again 
in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
shadows for awhile.  

 

***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic

[TJ Trout]

Sorry I meant xpic hardware installation. There is a few ways you can
position the omt and if you pick the one bolt pattern with the label
closest to facing the sky your radios end up cockeyed 30 degrees off level
On Jun 13, 2015 3:59 AM, "Daniel White"  wrote:

> I’d also note, techsupp...@saftehnika.com responds to e-mails 24/7,
> although there are admittingly fewer resources during the weekends and off
> hours than during normal business hours.
>
>
>
> ***
>
> Daniel White
>
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn 
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Saf lumina xpic
>
>
>
> Jeez, u think I'm an idiot, this isn't the ubiquiti forums! :)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:49 AM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> nope
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
> Probably on the website in the support area?
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 11:03 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> Does saf have any installation documentation for xpic?
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> Yes. Cuts into beer drinking time. Tonight I am drinking Carta Blanca and
> watching Hangar 1.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
> Shouldn't ask questions like this late in the day on a Friday...
>
> I've made "no change Fridays" virtually mandatory around here.
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:27 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> No one has xpic luminas they can login to?
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:58 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> No idea. Email and they'll answer I'm sure. Phone call can't hurt if
> you're eager.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
> They available ?
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 6:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
> Call SAF support?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jun 12, 2015 9:36 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:
>
> Could anyone post a screen shot of a successful xpic configuration
> setting? We just added the omt coupler and second polarity and when
> inputting the aggrigation settings we loose connectivity to both radios!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Josh Luthman]

Uhm...who's pinky?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 12:04 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:

> Best theory ever :-D
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> Ouray Colorada
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniel White 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>
>
>
> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy
> and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
> Lists
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope
> you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we
> can get!
>
> Jeff Broadwick
>
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>
> 312-205-2519 Office
>
> 574-220-7826 Cell
>
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>
> The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
> about a major change for me personally.
>
>
>
> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my
> decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing
> SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed
> working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the
> people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some
> of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.
> But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring
> many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.
>
>
>
> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>
>
>
> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>
>
>
> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again
> in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the
> shadows for awhile.
>
>
>
> ***
>
> Daniel White
>
> SAF North America LLC
>
> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>
> Skype: danieldwhite
> Social: LinkedIn 
>
>
>
> ***
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[chuck]

Anyone that can do real work, wealth creation of tangible goods and services 
will always be employable.
 


From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:05 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

I am so blessed to have skills I can 
market.  My brother has a masters in business mgt.   Company moved to another 
state and two years later still can't find a decent job with pay close to what 
he earned.   They offer him entry level.   He does have a nice next egg though. 
 He has GTE package collecting interest.   But it is harder for us older folks. 
  
Hey...doesn't Telrad need sharp folks in Americas to give Leary some quality 
time with family?  
Its a thought. 

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 13, 2015 9:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

  Maybe today when someone has a good steady job for several years at the same 
company it feels wrong?

  OMG, I’m turning into my dad who worked for the same company for 45 years!

  (Or worse, got laid off after 20 years at the same company and no one would 
hire him?)

  (Or worse yet, started a WISP.)


  From: Josh Luthman 
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:51 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

  Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Ouray Colorada

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy 
and start a WISP somewhere :-)



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope 
you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can 
get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.



  It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of 
my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing 
SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working 
for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I 
have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



  I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am 
exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



  My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally 
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 



  SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year 
and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  
The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at 
techsupp...@saftehnika.com.



  I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths 
again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
shadows for awhile.  



  
***

  Daniel White

  SAF North America LLC

  Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

  Skype: danieldwhite
  Social: LinkedIn



  
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Colin Stanners]

As long as tangible goods and services are still being created/offered, by
humans, in the place they live.

http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/10051/Panasonic-has-a-factory-staffed-with-only-15-people-that-can-make-2-million-plasma-displays-per-month-ab637-1


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:47 AM,  wrote:

>   Anyone that can do real work, wealth creation of tangible goods and
> services will always be employable.
>
>
>  *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:05 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
> I am so blessed to have skills I can
> market.  My brother has a masters in business mgt.   Company moved to
> another state and two years later still can't find a decent job with pay
> close to what he earned.   They offer him entry level.   He does have a
> nice next egg though.  He has GTE package collecting interest.   But it is
> harder for us older folks.
> Hey...doesn't Telrad need sharp folks in Americas to give Leary some
> quality time with family?
> Its a thought.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jun 13, 2015 9:37 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>>   Maybe today when someone has a good steady job for several years at
>> the same company it feels wrong?
>>
>> OMG, I’m turning into my dad who worked for the same company for 45 years!
>>
>> (Or worse, got laid off after 20 years at the same company and no one
>> would hire him?)
>>
>> (Or worse yet, started a WISP.)
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 9:51 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
>> WISP market.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>>>   Ouray Colorada
>>>
>>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick
>>> - Lists
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>>> as we can get!
>>>
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>>
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>>
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>>
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>>
>>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>>> about a major change for me personally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>>> new challenges.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>>> space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>>> the shadows for awhile.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> SAF North America LLC
>>>
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>>
>>> Skype: danieldwhite
>>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Seth Mattinen]

On 6/13/15 10:12, Colin Stanners wrote:

As long as tangible goods and services are still being created/offered,
by humans, in the place they live.

http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/10051/Panasonic-has-a-factory-staffed-with-only-15-people-that-can-make-2-million-plasma-displays-per-month-ab637-1




Some of those people probably only have jobs because there aren't robots 
to maintain the robots.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Daniel White]

My vote is Simon being the brain :-D



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



So which are you?



From: Daniel White 

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:04 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



Best theory ever :-D



https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Ouray Colorada



From: Daniel White 

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy and 
start a WISP somewhere :-)



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope you 
are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group about a 
major change for me personally.



It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my 
decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing SAF 
Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for 
SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I have 
worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring many 
options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally reach 
out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com 
 .



SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year and I 
expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  The 
entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com   or our technical 
support team is available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com 
 .



I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again in 
the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the shadows 
for awhile.



***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn 



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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Josh Luthman]

I think you would need to make room for two Brains at that company!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 1:30 PM, "Daniel White"  wrote:

> My vote is Simon being the brain :-D
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:15 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> So which are you?
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniel White 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:04 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> Best theory ever :-D
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/qzZmU0aGmcc
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
> Ouray Colorada
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniel White 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>
>
>
> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy
> and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>
>
>
> Daniel White
>
> (303) 746-3590
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
> Lists
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
>
>
> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope
> you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we
> can get!
>
> Jeff Broadwick
>
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>
> 312-205-2519 Office
>
> 574-220-7826 Cell
>
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>
> The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
> about a major change for me personally.
>
>
>
> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of my
> decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing
> SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed
> working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the
> people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some
> of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.
> But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.
>
>
>
> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am exploring
> many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.
>
>
>
> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>
>
>
> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>
>
>
> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths again
> in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the
> shadows for awhile.
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Ken Hohhof]

At a certain point it has to be about repeatable quality because the 
remaining labor cost is negligible.  Certain tasks like welding and painting 
have gone mainly to robots for that reason.


Interesting it is being reported that Microsoft's new giant Surface product 
is being built in Oregon because it would cost so much to ship, plus they 
say a little extra labor costs doesn't matter on a $20K product.  Seems the 
same case could be made for the shipping cost though.  I suspect they don't 
want to deal with a couple month feedback loop for any design changes or 
manufacturing problems.  When I was in the electronics manufacturing 
business decades ago, common wisdom was you wanted the feedback loop as 
short as possible.  Just In Time manufacturing, Kanban supply chains with 
suppliers restocking parts bins daily, testing inline with production so 
problems can be found before you make more than a handful of units, and 
engineers in the same building with production.  Even with all these 
advantages, Packetflux is dealing with a backwards port numbering issue, can 
you imagine if they had a containerload of product "on the boat"?  Of course 
the other thing that has changed is global markets, few products are 
designed and sold anymore for consumption in just one country, so that 
marketing/engineering/production can all be sited in that country.



-Original Message- 
From: Seth Mattinen

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

On 6/13/15 10:12, Colin Stanners wrote:

As long as tangible goods and services are still being created/offered,
by humans, in the place they live.

http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/10051/Panasonic-has-a-factory-staffed-with-only-15-people-that-can-make-2-million-plasma-displays-per-month-ab637-1




Some of those people probably only have jobs because there aren't robots
to maintain the robots.

~Seth 

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Colin Stanners]

Now that's confidence in your product. What's its rated weight capacity in
Chucks?

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:

>   New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.
>

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Josh Luthman]

I wouldn't be concerned about the product breaking, I'd be concerned about
arms giving up.  Those things hold 500+ lbs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Now that's confidence in your product. What's its rated weight capacity in
> Chucks?
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:
>
>>   New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Lewis Bergman]

That's anecdotal. You could have been sticking in helium.
On Jun 13, 2015 1:07 PM,  wrote:

>   New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.
>

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Jaime Solorza]

But through where?   Too easy

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 13, 2015 12:14 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> That's anecdotal. You could have been sticking in helium.
> On Jun 13, 2015 1:07 PM,  wrote:
>
>>   New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[chuck]

One Chuck with a safety factor.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

Now that's confidence in your product. What's its rated weight capacity in 
Chucks?


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:

  New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.  

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[chuck]

The thing I am wanting folks to notice is that this is a chain mount.  Should 
be good for 4 inch poles on up.  
I am altering the geometry a bit to the chain and tightening bolt is more 
tangent to the pole for more sizes of poles.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

I wouldn't be concerned about the product breaking, I'd be concerned about arms 
giving up.  Those things hold 500+ lbs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Now that's confidence in your product. What's its rated weight capacity in 
Chucks?


  On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:

New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.  

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Ken Hohhof]

I’m sure there’s a woodchuck joke in there somewhere.

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

One Chuck with a safety factor.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

Now that's confidence in your product. What's its rated weight capacity in 
Chucks?


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:06 PM,  wrote:

  New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.  

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[Jay Weekley]

We may have an immediate need for that as in next week.  Do you have any 
more details or pictures?


ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.

Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

[chuck]

This mount also has a 2.375 diameter tube that is currently 8 inches long. 
Made for mounting slightly larger stuff than the original M-TOW.


Product is currently called the M-POL-8XL

-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 12:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] a bit of testing

We may have an immediate need for that as in next week.  Do you have any
more details or pictures?

ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

New pole mount tower mount prototype.  Top of a 20 foot pole.

[AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Rob Genovesi]

You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q

interface FastEthernet 0/3
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
  switchport mode trunk


-Rob


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
> these turds enough to remember everything.
>
> show config says:
>
> interface FastEthernet0/3
> switchport access vlan 777
> switchport mode access
> speed 100
> duplex full
> no cdp enable
> !
>
> However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
> commands, it doesn't change.
>
> config terminal
> int Fa0/3
> switchport mode trunk
> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
>
> No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same
> result.
>
> I also tried removing the vlan via:
>
> interface FastEthernet 0/3
> no switchport mode access
> no switchport access vlan 777
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it. 


It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show config 
just doesn't say anything. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Rob Genovesi"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 
switchport mode trunk 


-Rob 




On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

Well, show config doesn't show any changes is what I meant. It still has stuff, 
just the same stuff it had before. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:33:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it. 


It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show config 
just doesn't say anything. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Rob Genovesi"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 
switchport mode trunk 


-Rob 




On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

*sigh* show config just tells you what's in NV ram... show running-config tells 
you what's actually there now... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:34:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


Well, show config doesn't show any changes is what I meant. It still has stuff, 
just the same stuff it had before. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:33:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it. 


It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show config 
just doesn't say anything. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Rob Genovesi"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 
switchport mode trunk 


-Rob 




On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

[AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[joseph marsh]

Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?

Re: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[Chuck McCown]

Better be safe and use a GigE-SS ...

From: joseph marsh 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?

Re: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[joseph marsh]

Okay I had a old canopy surge protector and wanted to ask before I used it.

We are deploying epmp today
On Jun 13, 2015 3:00 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   Better be safe and use a GigE-SS ...
>
>  *From:* joseph marsh 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:56 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector
>
>
> Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Faisal Imtiaz]

are we missing ... 

wr mem (write to memory to commit the change ?) 

?? 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:36:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

> *sigh* show config just tells you what's in NV ram... show running-config
> tells you what's actually there now...

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com

> - Original Message -

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:34:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

> Well, show config doesn't show any changes is what I meant. It still has
> stuff, just the same stuff it had before.

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com

> - Original Message -

> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:33:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

> It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it.

> It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show
> config just doesn't say anything.

> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com

> - Original Message -

> From: "Rob Genovesi" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

> You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q

> interface FastEthernet 0/3
> switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
> switchport mode trunk

> -Rob

> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote:

> > This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
> > these
> > turds enough to remember everything.
> 

> > show config says:
> 

> > interface FastEthernet0/3
> 
> > switchport access vlan 777
> 
> > switchport mode access
> 
> > speed 100
> 
> > duplex full
> 
> > no cdp enable
> 
> > !
> 

> > However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
> > commands, it doesn't change.
> 

> > config terminal
> 
> > int Fa0/3
> 
> > switchport mode trunk
> 
> > switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
> 

> > No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same
> > result.
> 

> > I also tried removing the vlan via:
> 

> > interface FastEthernet 0/3
> 
> > no switchport mode access
> 
> > no switchport access vlan 777
> 

> > -
> 
> > Mike Hammett
> 
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

Well I hadn't written because I didn't see any changes. My problem was looking 
at the wrong config. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Faisal Imtiaz"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:03:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



are we missing ... 


wr mem (write to memory to commit the change ?) 


?? 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 


Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 


- Original Message -


From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:36:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



*sigh* show config just tells you what's in NV ram... show running-config tells 
you what's actually there now... 






- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:34:57 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



Well, show config doesn't show any changes is what I meant. It still has stuff, 
just the same stuff it had before. 






- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:33:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 



It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it. 



It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show config 
just doesn't say anything. 






- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Rob Genovesi"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 




You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 


interface FastEthernet 0/3 
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 
switchport mode trunk 



-Rob 





On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 


show config says: 


interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 


However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 


config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 


No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 


I also tried removing the vlan via: 


interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 






- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Ken Hohhof]

Yeah, normally I type “show run” to see the current running config, and 
something like “copy running startup” or “copy run start”  to save the running 
config so it doesn’t go away after reboot.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

Well I hadn't written because I didn't see any changes. My problem was looking 
at the wrong config.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:03:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off


are we missing ...

wr mem   (write to memory to commit the change ?)

??

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232


Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:36:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off


  *sigh* show config just tells you what's in NV ram...  show running-config 
tells you what's actually there now...





  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:34:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off


  Well, show config doesn't show any changes is what I meant. It still has 
stuff, just the same stuff it had before.





  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:33:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off


  It didn't like encapsulation. Tab complete also didn't have anything for it.



  It's ignoring the simple description command. It takes it, but then show 
config just doesn't say anything.





  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Rob Genovesi" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:28:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off


  You may be missing this cmd: switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q


  interface FastEthernet 0/3
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
switchport mode trunk



  -Rob



  On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use 
these turds enough to remember everything.


show config says:


interface FastEthernet0/3
switchport access vlan 777
switchport mode access
speed 100
duplex full
no cdp enable
!


However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change.


config terminal
int Fa0/3
switchport mode trunk
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777


No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result.


I also tried removing the vlan via:


interface FastEthernet 0/3
no switchport mode access
no switchport access vlan 777





-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[cstanners]

As long as it's not gigabit yes, as the 100mbit models have Canopy-standard 
power.

-Original Message-
From: joseph marsh 
Sender: "Af" 
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:56:54 
To: 
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Simon Westlake]

Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!

On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate 
the WISP market.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown" > wrote:


Ouray Colorada
*From:* Daniel White 
*Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.

I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might
go crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists
*Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry
Daniel!  I hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many
great guys like you as we can get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519  Office

574-220-7826  Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified
the group about a major change for me personally.

It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to
inform you of my decision to pursue a different direction in
my career and will be departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday,
June 30^th , 2015. I have truly enjoyed working for SAF for
the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people
I have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing
some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment
products in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a
new environment with new challenges.

I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I
am exploring many options that are mostly still in the
wireless broadband space.

My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can
personally reach out to me via e-mail at
danieldeanwh...@gmail.com .

SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America
this year and I expect you will see a boost in their support
for you and your business.  The entire SAF North America sales
team can always be contacted via e-mail at
sale...@saftehnika.com  or our
technical support team is available by e-mail at
techsupp...@saftehnika.com .

I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross
paths again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here,
although I may lurk in the shadows for awhile.


***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn 


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Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

[Brandon Yuchasz]

We are running 2.4 firmware.

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

 

Can you tell me what versions?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 12, 2015 10:16 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:

Josh,

I am coming into the conversation a little late here but I have been running a 
non GPS ePTP mode link for well over a month with no lock ups. It’s the only 
link I have in the air everything else Epmp is AP and SM. 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links

 

I know my non GPS ePTP mode radios are locking up.  You can access either 
device locally but the wireless is busted.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 11, 2015 7:34 PM, "Jon Langeler"  wrote:

So what's the scoop here? What products are or aren't locking up?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 11, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:

I installed mine last Friday.  I've had it lock up 8 or 9 times as of today.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 11, 2015 5:47 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

Yes, it's been running for about 2 months now and I haven't seen any problems 
with it.

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

My ePTP link is non-GPS.  Are you saying your ePTP is GPS and doesn't have the 
problem?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

That particular link is actually running in ePTP mode, and I haven't seen any 
issues with it hanging... I wonder if that bug doesn't affect the GPS radios? I 
don't think I have any of our other links in ePTP mode.


We've done several links using a PTP at one end and a normal connectorized 
radio at the other end. I haven't ever seen an ePMP link do enough over 100 meg 
for me to care about having a gigabit port.

You can run the PTP radios off passive power too, they're probably the least 
picky about power of any radios I've used - you can even run them directly off 
a UBNT power supply.

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Glad to hear it!  I'm not sure there's any benefit to the PTP radios either. 
The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput and work with passive 
power.  I prefer the ePTP mode instead of sync, the low latency is so sexy, but 
there's a killer bug that's causing the link to hang =(




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

I Like 'em. I'm not convinced there's a lot of benefit to the PTP unless you're 
using sync, but sync is really nice...

We have one link up with PTP's at both ends, one end is on a 2' RocketDish and 
the other is a Force110 dish, if I remember right, the link is right around 10 
miles and I can get just over 100 meg through it testing between the Mikrotiks 
at both ends.

 

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Has anyone deployed some of these?  Just looking for general opinions on them.  
Any bigger dishes used (say 2' or 3' for long distance shots)?


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Josh Luthman]

Take over the world!!! of WISP

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 4:18 PM, "Simon Westlake" 
wrote:

>  Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!
>
> On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   Ouray Colorada
>>
>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
>> Lists
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>>
>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>> as we can get!
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>
>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>> about a major change for me personally.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>> new challenges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>> space.
>>
>>
>>
>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>> the shadows for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] IS binoculars

[Ken Hohhof]

So I decided to experiment first by ordering their oldest and least expensive 
model, the 8x25 IS.  Observations so far:

1)  The image stabilization is awesome.  Totally neutralizes hand shake but you 
can still pan normally.  Kind of surprising because this model came out quite a 
few years ago.

2)  They are smaller and lighter than I expected from the ads.

3)  Adjusting them for your eyes is a little tricky but you only do this once.

4)  My old Nikons were 8x42, but 8x25 seems plenty bright unless you are bird 
watching at dusk or something.

5)  Soft rubber eyecups are nice, I assume they will eventually need replacing, 
luckily Canon seems to have good support for repair parts, I should probably 
order a set now.

Given how well the IS works, I would now feel comfortable ordering one of their 
higher magnification models like maybe the 12x36, whereas 8x or 10x is normally 
the limit for handheld.  I held off partly because Canon is coming out with 2nd 
and even 3rd generation versions of the higher magnification models.  I’m not 
exactly sure how they are different.  I do know compared to the 8x25, some of 
the others don’t require you to hold the IS button down constantly and also 
have threads on the front so you can use lens caps or clear filters for 
protection.  These come with rear caps but nothing for the front.  Admittedly, 
the lens covers for my now missing Nikon Monarchs were a joke.

They list up to 15x50 and 18x50, but I don’t have that kind of money.  The knee 
of the price/performance curve seems to be 12x36.  I would not try to handhold 
12x binoculars without the IS feature.  Maybe I just have shaky hands.


From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IS binoculars

Come on now - you know you're going to find other uses for them...

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Has anyone used image stabilization binoculars like the ones from Canon? Are 
they worth the money?

  (for WISP use, not birdwatching, stargazing, or snooping on the neighbors) 

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Ken Hohhof]

“Disrupt”?  Some manufacturers always say their new products will be 
disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing.  Bottom line same as dominate 
though.

From: Simon Westlake 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!


On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the WISP 
market.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

Ouray Colorada

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go crazy 
and start a WISP somewhere :-)



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I hope 
you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as we can 
get!

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.



  It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of 
my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing 
SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working 
for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I 
have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



  I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am 
exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



  My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally 
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 



  SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year 
and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your business.  
The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via e-mail at 
sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by e-mail at 
techsupp...@saftehnika.com.



  I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths 
again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
shadows for awhile.  



  
***

  Daniel White

  SAF North America LLC

  Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

  Skype: danieldwhite
  Social: LinkedIn



  
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[AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Patrick Leary]

Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me know 
Chuck.

[cid:image001.png@01D0A5F9.D0243D20]



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Steve Discher
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
To: tel...@wispa.org
Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story



Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.









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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Simon Westlake]

Depends what you're disrupting, I guess..
On Jun 13, 2015 3:50 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

>   “Disrupt”?  Some manufacturers always say their new products will be
> disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing.  Bottom line same as
> dominate though.
>
>  *From:* Simon Westlake 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
> Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!
>
> On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   Ouray Colorada
>>
>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
>> Lists
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>>
>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>> as we can get!
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>
>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>> about a major change for me personally.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>> new challenges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>> space.
>>
>>
>>
>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>> the shadows for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> SAF North America LLC
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Colin Stanners]

Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
those.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
wrote:

>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me
> know Chuck.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Discher
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
> To: tel...@wispa.org
> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
>
>
>
> Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Josh Luthman]

Any besides Ubnt?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 4:50 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

>   “Disrupt”?  Some manufacturers always say their new products will be
> disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing.  Bottom line same as
> dominate though.
>
>  *From:* Simon Westlake 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>
> Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!
>
> On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the
> WISP market.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   Ouray Colorada
>>
>>  *From:* Daniel White 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go
>> crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> (303) 746-3590
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick -
>> Lists
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter
>>
>>
>>
>> You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I
>> hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you
>> as we can get!
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>>
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>>
>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:
>>
>>  The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group
>> about a major change for me personally.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of
>> my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be
>> departing SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly
>> enjoyed working for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards
>> for the people I have worked with and the integrity they employ in
>> producing some of the finest microwave radios and test equipment products
>> in the world.  But it is time to spread my wings in a new environment with
>> new challenges.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am
>> exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband
>> space.
>>
>>
>>
>> My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally
>> reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this year
>> and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your
>> business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted
>> via e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is
>> available by e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths
>> again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in
>> the shadows for awhile.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ***
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

[Ken Hohhof]

There are Romulan and Klingon disruptors.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Any besides Ubnt?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 4:50 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

  “Disrupt”?  Some manufacturers always say their new products will be 
disruptive, so apparently that’s a good thing.  Bottom line same as dominate 
though.

  From: Simon Westlake 
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:18 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

  Why does it have to dominate? That's such a harsh word!


  On 6/13/2015 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Simon and Danny have to be creating a new company that will dominate the 
WISP market.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 13, 2015 10:38 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

  Ouray Colorada

  From: Daniel White 
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:33 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

  Thanks Jeff and Jaime.  Appreciate the kind words.



  I’ll let everyone know when I land somewhere.  Who knows, I might go 
crazy and start a WISP somewhere :-)



  Daniel White

  (303) 746-3590



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:53 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter



  You've been a great advocate for both SAF and our industry Daniel!  I 
hope you are able to stay plugged in.  We need as many great guys like you as 
we can get!

  Jeff Broadwick

  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

  312-205-2519 Office

  574-220-7826 Cell

  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com


  On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:27 AM, Daniel White  wrote:

The current thread onlist made me realize I had not notified the group 
about a major change for me personally.



It is with mixed emotions that I am writing this email to inform you of 
my decision to pursue a different direction in my career and will be departing 
SAF Tehnika effective Tuesday, June 30th, 2015. I have truly enjoyed working 
for SAF for the past 3 years, and hold the highest regards for the people I 
have worked with and the integrity they employ in producing some of the finest 
microwave radios and test equipment products in the world.  But it is time to 
spread my wings in a new environment with new challenges.



I’m not sure where my career will take me at this time, and I am 
exploring many options that are mostly still in the wireless broadband space.



My cell phone and Skype ID will remain the same, and you can personally 
reach out to me via e-mail at danieldeanwh...@gmail.com. 



SAF is investing significantly more resources in North America this 
year and I expect you will see a boost in their support for you and your 
business.  The entire SAF North America sales team can always be contacted via 
e-mail at sale...@saftehnika.com or our technical support team is available by 
e-mail at techsupp...@saftehnika.com.



I wish you and your company success and hope that we may cross paths 
again in the future.  I plan to still hang out here, although I may lurk in the 
shadows for awhile.  




***

Daniel White

SAF North America LLC

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

Skype: danieldwhite
Social: LinkedIn




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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Ken Hohhof]

I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they were 
“per subcarrier” or something?

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I can't 
see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable channel 
bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less those. 


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary  wrote:

  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me know 
Chuck.





  -Original Message-
  From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Steve Discher
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
  To: tel...@wispa.org
  Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story



  Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.








  


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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like the
numbers we're all used to.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they
> were “per subcarrier” or something?
>
>  *From:* Colin Stanners 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>
>  Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
> those.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
> wrote:
>
>>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me
>> know Chuck.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steve Discher
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
>> To: tel...@wispa.org
>> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
>>
>>
>>
>> Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[Mathew Howard]

Me thinks Chuck just wants to sell you a new one :P

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:01 PM, joseph marsh 
wrote:

> Okay I had a old canopy surge protector and wanted to ask before I used
> it.
>
> We are deploying epmp today
> On Jun 13, 2015 3:00 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   Better be safe and use a GigE-SS ...
>>
>>  *From:* joseph marsh 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:56 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector
>>
>>
>> Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Old canopy surge protector

[Sean Heskett]

Yup

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, joseph marsh  wrote:

> Will a 600ss surge protector work on a epmp correctly?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Sean Heskett]

Correct telrad -108 would be a -78 for canopy/epmp/ubnt

I was amazed because we couldn't see the tower, it's skimming a hill and
going thru a bush while sitting in the truck at ground level.  We tried 450
from the roof and couldn't get a signal.

-Sean


On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they
> were “per subcarrier” or something?
>
>  *From:* Colin Stanners
> 
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>
>  Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
> those.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary  > wrote:
>
>>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me
>> know Chuck.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org
>>  [mailto:
>> telrad-boun...@wispa.org
>> ] On Behalf Of
>> Steve Discher
>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
>> To: tel...@wispa.org 
>> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
>>
>>
>>
>> Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Josh Luthman]

That's just insane.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 13, 2015 6:07 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> Correct telrad -108 would be a -78 for canopy/epmp/ubnt
>
> I was amazed because we couldn't see the tower, it's skimming a hill and
> going thru a bush while sitting in the truck at ground level.  We tried 450
> from the roof and couldn't get a signal.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because
>> they were “per subcarrier” or something?
>>
>>  *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>
>>  Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
>> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
>> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
>> those.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let
>>> me know Chuck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Discher
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
>>> To: tel...@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Caleb Knauer]

3.65 450?

Crazy performance.  Let us know what it does with the final install.

Sweet truck too. Lots of truck talk lately. Thinking I need some new
wheels.

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Correct telrad -108 would be a -78 for canopy/epmp/ubnt
>
> I was amazed because we couldn't see the tower, it's skimming a hill and
> going thru a bush while sitting in the truck at ground level.  We tried 450
> from the roof and couldn't get a signal.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:
>
>>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because
>> they were “per subcarrier” or something?
>>
>>  *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>
>>  Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
>> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
>> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
>> those.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let
>>> me know Chuck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Discher
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
>>> To: tel...@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not to flood the list with these but Zirkel is having great results.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Sean Heskett]

Yes 3.65 canopy 450 wouldn't connect.


On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Caleb Knauer  wrote:

> 3.65 450?
>
> Crazy performance.  Let us know what it does with the final install.
>
> Sweet truck too. Lots of truck talk lately. Thinking I need some new
> wheels.
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Sean Heskett  > wrote:
>
>> Correct telrad -108 would be a -78 for canopy/epmp/ubnt
>>
>> I was amazed because we couldn't see the tower, it's skimming a hill and
>> going thru a bush while sitting in the truck at ground level.  We tried 450
>> from the roof and couldn't get a signal.
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because
>>> they were “per subcarrier” or something?
>>>
>>>  *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>>
>>>  Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
>>> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
>>> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
>>> those.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary >> > wrote:
>>>
  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let
 me know Chuck.



 -Original Message-
 From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Steve Discher
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
 To: tel...@wispa.org
 Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story



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Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Sean Heskett]

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs

We have completely removed all Cisco from our network

2 cents

-Sean

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
> these turds enough to remember everything.
>
> show config says:
>
> interface FastEthernet0/3
> switchport access vlan 777
> switchport mode access
> speed 100
> duplex full
> no cdp enable
> !
>
> However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
> commands, it doesn't change.
>
> config terminal
> int Fa0/3
> switchport mode trunk
> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
>
> No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same
> result.
>
> I also tried removing the vlan via:
>
> interface FastEthernet 0/3
> no switchport mode access
> no switchport access vlan 777
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Patrick Leary]

RSRP, it is a measurement. It is a truer number than RSSI, which is only an 
estimate (so I'm told). As Ken said, basically add 30 to get an idea of the 
RSSI value.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like the 
numbers we're all used to.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they were 
“per subcarrier” or something?

From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I can't 
see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable channel 
bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less those.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>> wrote:

Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me know 
Chuck.

[cid:0E2DE6CC4411406C902C6E13D144BBDF@khohhofVAIO]



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[mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Steve Discher
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
To: tel...@wispa.org
Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story



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Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Jon Auer]

Huh? I doubt the WISP market even registers to them. Their gear is
generally solid...

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs
>
> We have completely removed all Cisco from our network
>
> 2 cents
>
> -Sean
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
>> these turds enough to remember everything.
>>
>> show config says:
>>
>> interface FastEthernet0/3
>> switchport access vlan 777
>> switchport mode access
>> speed 100
>> duplex full
>> no cdp enable
>> !
>>
>> However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
>> commands, it doesn't change.
>>
>> config terminal
>> int Fa0/3
>> switchport mode trunk
>> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
>>
>> No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description.
>> Same result.
>>
>> I also tried removing the vlan via:
>>
>> interface FastEthernet 0/3
>> no switchport mode access
>> no switchport access vlan 777
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Sean Heskett]

5ghz FCC filings they clearly state that WISPs are bad

Just sayin



On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Jon Auer  wrote:

> Huh? I doubt the WISP market even registers to them. Their gear is
> generally solid...
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Sean Heskett  > wrote:
>
>> Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs
>>
>> We have completely removed all Cisco from our network
>>
>> 2 cents
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett > > wrote:
>>
>>> This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
>>> these turds enough to remember everything.
>>>
>>> show config says:
>>>
>>> interface FastEthernet0/3
>>> switchport access vlan 777
>>> switchport mode access
>>> speed 100
>>> duplex full
>>> no cdp enable
>>> !
>>>
>>> However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
>>> commands, it doesn't change.
>>>
>>> config terminal
>>> int Fa0/3
>>> switchport mode trunk
>>> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
>>>
>>> No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description.
>>> Same result.
>>>
>>> I also tried removing the vlan via:
>>>
>>> interface FastEthernet 0/3
>>> no switchport mode access
>>> no switchport access vlan 777
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Seth Mattinen]

On 6/13/15 15:49, Sean Heskett wrote:

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs

We have completely removed all Cisco from our network




Because Cisco is not one big company, it only appears that way.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Eric Rogers]

Shut, no shut... ;)

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 3:23 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

 

This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything.

show config says:

interface FastEthernet0/3
switchport access vlan 777
switchport mode access
speed 100
duplex full
no cdp enable
!

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change.

config terminal
int Fa0/3
switchport mode trunk
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result.

I also tried removing the vlan via:

interface FastEthernet 0/3
no switchport mode access
no switchport access vlan 777



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] IS binoculars

[Chuck McCown]

If you could zoom to 18 it would be nice, but a fixed 18 seems to have limited 
use.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 2:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IS binoculars

So I decided to experiment first by ordering their oldest and least expensive 
model, the 8x25 IS.  Observations so far:

1)  The image stabilization is awesome.  Totally neutralizes hand shake but you 
can still pan normally.  Kind of surprising because this model came out quite a 
few years ago.

2)  They are smaller and lighter than I expected from the ads.

3)  Adjusting them for your eyes is a little tricky but you only do this once.

4)  My old Nikons were 8x42, but 8x25 seems plenty bright unless you are bird 
watching at dusk or something.

5)  Soft rubber eyecups are nice, I assume they will eventually need replacing, 
luckily Canon seems to have good support for repair parts, I should probably 
order a set now.

Given how well the IS works, I would now feel comfortable ordering one of their 
higher magnification models like maybe the 12x36, whereas 8x or 10x is normally 
the limit for handheld.  I held off partly because Canon is coming out with 2nd 
and even 3rd generation versions of the higher magnification models.  I’m not 
exactly sure how they are different.  I do know compared to the 8x25, some of 
the others don’t require you to hold the IS button down constantly and also 
have threads on the front so you can use lens caps or clear filters for 
protection.  These come with rear caps but nothing for the front.  Admittedly, 
the lens covers for my now missing Nikon Monarchs were a joke.

They list up to 15x50 and 18x50, but I don’t have that kind of money.  The knee 
of the price/performance curve seems to be 12x36.  I would not try to handhold 
12x binoculars without the IS feature.  Maybe I just have shaky hands.


From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IS binoculars

Come on now - you know you're going to find other uses for them...

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Has anyone used image stabilization binoculars like the ones from Canon? Are 
they worth the money?

  (for WISP use, not birdwatching, stargazing, or snooping on the neighbors) 

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[TJ Trout]

How does LTE penetrate hills? This is the second or third "through a hill"
story in the last week?

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Leary 
wrote:

>  RSRP, it is a measurement. It is a truer number than RSSI, which is only
> an estimate (so I'm told). As Ken said, basically add 30 to get an idea of
> the RSSI value.
>
>  *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>  On Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>  Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like
> the numbers we're all used to.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because
>> they were “per subcarrier” or something?
>>
>>  *From:* Colin Stanners 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>
>>   Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I
>> can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
>> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
>> those.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let
>>> me know Chuck.
>>>
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>>> Behalf Of Steve Discher
>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
>>> To: tel...@wispa.org
>>> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Sean Heskett]

I wouldn't say "through" but over a slight ridge for sure blocking visual
LOS and intruding most of the 1st fresnel zone.

-Sean

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, TJ Trout  wrote:

> How does LTE penetrate hills? This is the second or third "through a hill"
> story in the last week?
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Leary  > wrote:
>
>>  RSRP, it is a measurement. It is a truer number than RSSI, which is
>> only an estimate (so I'm told). As Ken said, basically add 30 to get an
>> idea of the RSSI value.
>>
>>  *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
>>  On Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM, Mathew Howard > > wrote:
>>  Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like
>> the numbers we're all used to.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof > > wrote:
>>
>>>   I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because
>>> they were “per subcarrier” or something?
>>>
>>>  *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> 
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>>
>>>   Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible -
>>> I can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable
>>> channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less
>>> those.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary >> > wrote:
>>>
  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let
 me know Chuck.



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 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
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Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Ken Hohhof]

One thing I experienced with 3.65 GHz WiMAX was an install that turned out to 
work only because of signal bouncing off the tall tree leaves, and stopped 
working in November when the leaves went away.  We should have been suspicious 
when aligning for best signal actually had the CPE pointed up at about a 30 
degree angle.

I have seen something similar with 900 MHz.


From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

How does LTE penetrate hills? This is the second or third "through a hill" 
story in the last week?

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Leary  wrote:

  RSRP, it is a measurement. It is a truer number than RSSI, which is only an 
estimate (so I'm told). As Ken said, basically add 30 to get an idea of the 
RSSI value.

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
  On Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

  Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like the 
numbers we're all used to.


  On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they 
were “per subcarrier” or something?

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I 
can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable channel 
bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less those. 


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary  
wrote:

  Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me 
know Chuck.





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Behalf Of Steve Discher
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
  To: tel...@wispa.org
  Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story



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Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no place in 
any of these networks. However, it's not my switch. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs 


We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 


2 cents 


-Sean 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

No, Cisco has specifically done FCC filings attacking WISPs when unnecessary. 
There is better gear to use from other vendors who don't shit on us. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Jon Auer"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 6:06:40 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


Huh? I doubt the WISP market even registers to them. Their gear is generally 
solid... 


On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 


Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs 


We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 


2 cents 


-Sean 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Jaime Solorza]

Make the switch..drop the bitch...opps ..
Make the switchchange the switch...Brocade for Server room. Moxa for
tower sites

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 13, 2015 9:27 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no
> place in any of these networks. However, it's not my switch.  ;-)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off
>
> Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs
>
> We have completely removed all Cisco from our network
>
> 2 cents
>
> -Sean
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use
>> these turds enough to remember everything.
>>
>> show config says:
>>
>> interface FastEthernet0/3
>> switchport access vlan 777
>> switchport mode access
>> speed 100
>> duplex full
>> no cdp enable
>> !
>>
>> However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following
>> commands, it doesn't change.
>>
>> config terminal
>> int Fa0/3
>> switchport mode trunk
>> switchport trunk allowed vlan 777
>>
>> No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description.
>> Same result.
>>
>> I also tried removing the vlan via:
>>
>> interface FastEthernet 0/3
>> no switchport mode access
>> no switchport access vlan 777
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

I would like Extreme, but I wasn't able to get the new pricing I was hoping to 
get. Juniper and Extreme are both at about $10k for a 48x10GigE 4x40GigE 
switch. I haven't received pricing from anyone else on comparable switches. 
Extreme has the benefit of a fairly mature MPLS implementation. 

I'm saw a good deal on some 24 port Brocades, but my partners weren't ready for 
the move yet. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:40:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


Make the switch..drop the bitch...opps .. 
Make the switchchange the switch...Brocade for Server room. Moxa for tower 
sites 
Jaime Solorza 
On Jun 13, 2015 9:27 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no place in 
any of these networks. However, it's not my switch. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Sean Heskett" < af...@zirkel.us > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs 


We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 


2 cents 


-Sean 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Ken Hohhof]

There are certainly reasons to hate Cisco, but their hardware is generally very 
reliable, and used Cisco becomes much more affordable at 2 points in its life 
cycle – when they get swapped out for the next generation, and when EOS/EOL 
gets announced.  Also the used equipment has often spent its entire life in a 
datacenter on an equipment lease.  I am about to install my first 7301 as a BGP 
router, I think these may lead a tougher life since some were probably 
installed at customer prem by carriers for metro Ethernet service.

One place I won’t go is their security (ASA) product line.  Seems well built 
with good performance numbers, but apparently it’s a bitch to configure them, 
or else my customers hire incompetent Cisco experts.  Every time they mess with 
the VPN config it breaks something, they blame the ISP, and it’s never the 
ISP’s fault.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no place in 
any of these networks. However, it's not my switch.  ;-) 




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "Sean Heskett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs  

We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 

2 cents

-Sean 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

  This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything.

  show config says:

  interface FastEthernet0/3
  switchport access vlan 777
  switchport mode access
  speed 100
  duplex full
  no cdp enable
  !

  However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change.

  config terminal
  int Fa0/3
  switchport mode trunk
  switchport trunk allowed vlan 777

  No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result.

  I also tried removing the vlan via:

  interface FastEthernet 0/3
  no switchport mode access
  no switchport access vlan 777




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

[Tushar Patel]

Your point on sector efficiency is the reason we no longer like NLOS installs. 
Yes you may gain few customer with little less effort but in long run it hurts. 
We try to install 40 to 50 feet push-up poles and get better line of sight. 

Tushar


> On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:44 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> That's great that it works. I'm sure the Telrad stuff and other gear like it 
> is excellent. For me, it's too expensive. Every way I run the numbers, I'm 
> looking at 16-18 months for break-even. And that's not including all of the 
> extra stuff required for a large scale deployment.
> 
> If I can't get 25-30 users per sector, the site is too small to deploy it. If 
> I'm running a bunch of NLOS customers (which we would since we're about 55% 
> 900MHz), lots of low modulation users really sucks for sector capacity. And 
> those NLOS shots, like Ken says, will they continue to work? When the trees 
> are soaked, covered in ice, etc., does it go to shit and I have to listen to 
> customers bitching because they were getting 20+Mbps and now get <5Mbps? 
> Which again is a hit on sector efficiency.
> 
>> On 6/13/2015 8:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> One thing I experienced with 3.65 GHz WiMAX was an install that turned out 
>> to work only because of signal bouncing off the tall tree leaves, and 
>> stopped working in November when the leaves went away.  We should have been 
>> suspicious when aligning for best signal actually had the CPE pointed up at 
>> about a 30 degree angle.
>>  
>> I have seen something similar with 900 MHz.
>>  
>>  
>> From: TJ Trout
>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 8:15 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
>>  
>> How does LTE penetrate hills? This is the second or third "through a hill" 
>> story in the last week?
>>  
>>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Leary  
>>> wrote:
>>> RSRP, it is a measurement. It is a truer number than RSSI, which is only an 
>>> estimate (so I'm told). As Ken said, basically add 30 to get an idea of the 
>>> RSSI value.
>>>  
>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
>>> On Jun 13, 2015 5:36 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>>> Yeah... something like that. Notice that is -108 CINR, not RSSI, like the 
>>> numbers we're all used to.
>>>  
 On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
 I think Patrick said to add 30 dB to Telrad signal numbers because they 
 were “per subcarrier” or something?
  
 From: Colin Stanners
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:17 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?
  
 Patrick, I haven't been following Telrad but that's too incredible - I 
 can't see how -108, which is below the noise floor for any reasonable 
 channel bandwidth (20mhz+?) could get any reasonable speed, much less 
 those. 
  
 On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Patrick Leary  
 wrote:
> Should I resist sharing this sort of thing? If it's out of line, let me 
> know Chuck.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> Behalf Of Steve Discher
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 7:51 PM
> To: tel...@wispa.org
> Subject: [Telrad] Another Telrad success story
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Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off

[Mike Hammett]

It also lacks some of the features I require (S-Flow). 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:51:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 




There are certainly reasons to hate Cisco, but their hardware is generally very 
reliable, and used Cisco becomes much more affordable at 2 points in its life 
cycle – when they get swapped out for the next generation, and when EOS/EOL 
gets announced. Also the used equipment has often spent its entire life in a 
datacenter on an equipment lease. I am about to install my first 7301 as a BGP 
router, I think these may lead a tougher life since some were probably 
installed at customer prem by carriers for metro Ethernet service. 

One place I won’t go is their security (ASA) product line. Seems well built 
with good performance numbers, but apparently it’s a bitch to configure them, 
or else my customers hire incompetent Cisco experts. Every time they mess with 
the VPN config it breaks something, they blame the ISP, and it’s never the 
ISP’s fault. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:26 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 


I would love to blow up every piece of Cisco everything. Cisco has no place in 
any of these networks. However, it's not my switch. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:49:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco pissing me off 

Why on earth would you use a Cisco anything when they hate WISPs 

We have completely removed all Cisco from our network 

2 cents 

-Sean 

On Saturday, June 13, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




This should be a trivial Cisco switch question. Apparently I don't use these 
turds enough to remember everything. 

show config says: 

interface FastEthernet0/3 
switchport access vlan 777 
switchport mode access 
speed 100 
duplex full 
no cdp enable 
! 

However, when trying to convert it to a tagged port with the following 
commands, it doesn't change. 

config terminal 
int Fa0/3 
switchport mode trunk 
switchport trunk allowed vlan 777 

No errors, just no change. I even tried just setting the description. Same 
result. 

I also tried removing the vlan via: 

interface FastEthernet 0/3 
no switchport mode access 
no switchport access vlan 777 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com