Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

[Rory Conaway]

I’ve got one that has been in service for 7 years.  We just took it out a 
couple weeks ago.  Ha, yea, the ones in my back room only went there after 
years of service after they just got too slow.  I just never had one fail and 
we probably had 15 of them or more over the last few years.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

Both of these customers have been customers since 2013.  They are using Rise as 
a backup.  I tried to tell them that they do not need a backup with us as a 
primary, but they work from home and insisted.  They still have the same 
routers running perfectly four years later.  That alone is a testament in my 
mind.  Four years is a stretch for almost any consumer grade router

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
They never fail when they're in a back room.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Rory Conaway 
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Except it never breaks.  I’ve got some Peplinks from 2006 still in my back room.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

We have a few customers using PepLink.  It is more of a consumer product, with 
a typical router GUI.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Doc was better than Maynard.

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:29 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

He is one of the best horn players I have ever worked with.   He can hit those 
high notes and has great tonethink Mic Gillette form original Tower of 
Power horn section.
He ordered the Meraki solution Gino recommended.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Dennis Burgess 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Mikrotik  ;)


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
MikroTik Certified 
Trainer/Consultant
 – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
Office: 314-735-0270
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

Wow, a trumpet player and an IT professional.  Must be a cool guy 😊

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

Our trumpet player is in IT support for his company and asked me what folks are 
using to handle and manage a dual ISP feed ; Comcast and Century Link are 
providers.  He wants to segregate emails, VoIP and document sharing from office 
to office (three states) from the normal Internet stuff like social media, 
Google, etc..


They have Cisco routers and switches currently.  Wonder what the Borg might 
suggest?





--
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium QinQ

[Carl Peterson]

Thanks, that was what I was looking for.  Need to assign a sub a static DHCP 
address and a second DHCP address at the same time.  Essentially running two 
circuits to the BNG over one SM.  

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:41 PM, David Milholen  wrote:
> 
> I believe this is correct but vlan 502 will end up on the ethernet of the SM. 
> essentially having the Sub on vlan501 and 502 will be looking for an 
> interface on the other end of the sub matching it.
> 
> If you plug a pc into the sub direct all it will see is 501. If a switch is 
> plugged in with a vlan tag of 502 it will connect vlan 502 all others will 
> pass over 501.
> 
> hope that helps
> 
> I do this with a few subs.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/2017 2:21 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>> If I have a SM set for QinQ with the SVLAN set, will it put any VLANS that 
>> ingress the SM inside the S VLAN or only the default port VID and any 
>> MAC->VLANS that are set on it?  i.e if I have the default port VID set to 
>> 501, and the S VLAN set to 600, it puts 501 inside S VLAN 600 but if a 
>> tagged packet ingresses, 502 for example, will it also be put inside S VLAN 
>> 600?  I don't have a CSM/AP set up in my lab right now and I'm working on a 
>> config.  
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Paul McCall]

I kinda wish either of them would have 1625nm capability to be able to work 
with live fiber

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

Do you own one?  Where would you get it serviced or calibrated down the road?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Spend a little more and get this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SM-FTTH-Tester-KOMSHINE-QX50-S-OTDR-1310-1550nm-32-30dB-as-EXFO-Fiber-OTDR-w-VFL/112386318451?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D188f138388b343b8b752d0f580216517%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112354147194



On 6/14/2017 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

Was there any feedback on this Adam?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html

What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.
The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only single mode 
wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Paul McCall]

Do you own one?  Where would you get it serviced or calibrated down the road?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Spend a little more and get this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SM-FTTH-Tester-KOMSHINE-QX50-S-OTDR-1310-1550nm-32-30dB-as-EXFO-Fiber-OTDR-w-VFL/112386318451?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D188f138388b343b8b752d0f580216517%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112354147194



On 6/14/2017 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

Was there any feedback on this Adam?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html

What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.
The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only single mode 
wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium QinQ

[David Milholen]

I believe this is correct but vlan 502 will end up on the ethernet of 
the SM. essentially having the Sub on vlan501 and 502 will be looking 
for an interface on the other end of the sub matching it.


If you plug a pc into the sub direct all it will see is 501. If a switch 
is plugged in with a vlan tag of 502 it will connect vlan 502 all others 
will pass over 501.


hope that helps

I do this with a few subs.



On 6/14/2017 2:21 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
If I have a SM set for QinQ with the SVLAN set, will it put any VLANS 
that ingress the SM inside the S VLAN or only the default port VID and 
any MAC->VLANS that are set on it?  i.e if I have the default port VID 
set to 501, and the S VLAN set to 600, it puts 501 inside S VLAN 600 
but if a tagged packet ingresses, 502 for example, will it also be put 
inside S VLAN 600?  I don't have a CSM/AP set up in my lab right now 
and I'm working on a config.





--

Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

[Jeremy]

Both of these customers have been customers since 2013.  They are using
Rise as a backup.  I tried to tell them that they do not need a backup with
us as a primary, but they work from home and insisted.  They still have the
same routers running perfectly four years later.  That alone is a testament
in my mind.  Four years is a stretch for almost any consumer grade
router

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> They never fail when they're in a back room.  ;-)
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
>
>> Except it never breaks.  I’ve got some Peplinks from 2006 still in my
>> back room.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:26 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a few customers using PepLink.  It is more of a consumer product,
>> with a typical router GUI.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>> Doc was better than Maynard.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:29 AM
>>
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> He is one of the best horn players I have ever worked with.   He can hit
>> those high notes and has great tonethink Mic Gillette form original
>> Tower of Power horn section.
>>
>> He ordered the Meraki solution Gino recommended.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Dennis Burgess 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mikrotik  ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>  –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:58 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, a trumpet player and an IT professional.  Must be a cool guy 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 2:42 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> Our trumpet player is in IT support for his company and asked me what
>> folks are using to handle and manage a dual ISP feed ; Comcast and Century
>> Link are providers.  He wants to segregate emails, VoIP and document
>> sharing from office to office (three states) from the normal Internet stuff
>> like social media, Google, etc..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They have Cisco routers and switches currently.  Wonder what the Borg
>> might suggest?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>

Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

[Gino A. Villarini]

Easier to assemble, looks way better (professional) 40 mbps key included, less 
pieces to stock

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill 
Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 7:11 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

So even though it has the same gain, and wider beam width, it performs better?

bp




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
We moved to 450d and never looked back…

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill 
Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about the 
same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly larger 
beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs about the same 
or a little better or worse?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody needs some.
hit me offlist if you have a need

Paul, PDMNet

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of 
George Skorup [george.sko...@cbcast.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM 
hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz anyway.

On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will be 
$349.  Standard discounts apply.

The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the people 
that paid for the upgrade keys it is going to be really interesting to see 
how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they make it too cheap then 
why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP 
price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it needs to be about $300'ish, but 
that will put it cheaper than the existing un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too 
much because that's approaching 450i pricing which is much more rugged 
hardware. Sounds like they may have to lower the price of the existing product 
line, (un-likely). That would be a problem because there are a lot of WISPS 
with contract pricing for future SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM 
is cheaper than what the already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like 
someone is going to have to make some hard decisions on how they price this 
stuff.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.

The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and all, which 
simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.

The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the 450i 
SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic like the 
Force180's and 200's.

450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be called.

On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all the 
existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference between a 
450d and 450b?


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
Hey Kurt,

The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the integrated units 
that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are similar to the Force 200 
are supposed to be available in October.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the 450 
(5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down to 
5.1ghz

Re: [AFMUG] Moto M2 (XT1902-02) receives its Wi-Fi certification?

[Jaime Solorza]

Didn't catch that..

On Jun 14, 2017 5:19 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> Maybe not. That appears to be Motorola not Motorola solutions
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 5:15 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> I can't load your post at the moment but I would bet this is something to
>> do with a Firstnet offering.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gino is resident certification snooper but this is interesting.
>>>
>>> http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-M2-XT1902-02-receives-its-Wi-Fi-
>>> certification_id94986
>>>
>>

[AFMUG] Good deal

[chuck]

https://m.costco.com/Champion-7000W-Running--9000W-Peak-DUAL-FUEL-Generator-wElectric-Start.product.100220385.html

$549.99
7.8 cents per watt.  Pretty much one of the lower prices I have seen.
Dual fuel.  No more stale gasoline.
Electric start.  

I will be buying 3 of these tomorrow.  

Re: [AFMUG] Moto M2 (XT1902-02) receives its Wi-Fi certification?

[Lewis Bergman]

Maybe not. That appears to be Motorola not Motorola solutions

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 5:15 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

> I can't load your post at the moment but I would bet this is something to
> do with a Firstnet offering.
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Gino is resident certification snooper but this is interesting.
>>
>>
>> http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-M2-XT1902-02-receives-its-Wi-Fi-certification_id94986
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Moto M2 (XT1902-02) receives its Wi-Fi certification?

[Jaime Solorza]

It's going to be interesting once it gets going more and more WiFi
usage by law enforcement for sure

On Jun 14, 2017 5:15 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> I can't load your post at the moment but I would bet this is something to
> do with a Firstnet offering.
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Gino is resident certification snooper but this is interesting.
>>
>> http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-M2-XT1902-02-receives-its-Wi-Fi-
>> certification_id94986
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Moto M2 (XT1902-02) receives its Wi-Fi certification?

[Lewis Bergman]

I can't load your post at the moment but I would bet this is something to
do with a Firstnet offering.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 11:02 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Gino is resident certification snooper but this is interesting.
>
>
> http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-M2-XT1902-02-receives-its-Wi-Fi-certification_id94986
>

Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

[Bill Prince]

And to what distance?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> So even though it has the same gain, and wider beam width, it performs
> better?
>
> bp
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> We moved to 450d and never looked back…
>>
>> From: Af  on behalf of Bill Prince <
>> part15...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>>
>> For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about
>> the same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly
>> larger beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs
>> about the same or a little better or worse?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>> We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody
>>> needs some.
>>> hit me offlist if you have a need
>>>
>>> Paul, PDMNet
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup [
>>> george.sko...@cbcast.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>>>
>>> I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM
>>> hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>>>
>>> List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will
>>> be $349.  Standard discounts apply.
>>>
>>> The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.
>>>
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
>>> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the
>>> people that paid for the upgrade keys it is going to be really
>>> interesting to see how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they
>>> make it too cheap then why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A
>>> 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it
>>> needs to be about $300'ish, but that will put it cheaper than the existing
>>> un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too much because that's approaching 450i
>>> pricing which is much more rugged hardware. Sounds like they may have to
>>> lower the price of the existing product line, (un-likely). That would be a
>>> problem because there are a lot of WISPS with contract pricing for future
>>> SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM is cheaper than what the
>>> already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like someone is going to
>>> have to make some hard decisions on how they price this stuff.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.

 The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and
 all, which simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.

 The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses
 the 450i SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic
 like the Force180's and 200's.

 450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be
 called.

 On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:

 So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all
 the existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference
 between a 450d and 450b?


 On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <
 jeffl...@att.net> wrote:

> Hey Kurt,
>
> The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the
> integrated units that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are
> similar to the Force 200 are supposed to be available in October.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the
> 450 (5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down
> to 5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to 
> happen
> by end of 1st quarter this year.
>
>


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>



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Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

[Bill Prince]

So even though it has the same gain, and wider beam width, it performs
better?

bp

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> We moved to 450d and never looked back…
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Bill Prince <
> part15...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>
> For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about
> the same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly
> larger beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs
> about the same or a little better or worse?
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody
>> needs some.
>> hit me offlist if you have a need
>>
>> Paul, PDMNet
>> --
>> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup [
>> george.sko...@cbcast.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>>
>> I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM
>> hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz
>> anyway.
>>
>> On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>>
>> List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will
>> be $349.  Standard discounts apply.
>>
>> The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
>> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>> wrote:
>>
>> they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the
>> people that paid for the upgrade keys it is going to be really
>> interesting to see how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they
>> make it too cheap then why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A
>> 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it
>> needs to be about $300'ish, but that will put it cheaper than the existing
>> un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too much because that's approaching 450i
>> pricing which is much more rugged hardware. Sounds like they may have to
>> lower the price of the existing product line, (un-likely). That would be a
>> problem because there are a lot of WISPS with contract pricing for future
>> SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM is cheaper than what the
>> already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like someone is going to
>> have to make some hard decisions on how they price this stuff.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.
>>>
>>> The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and
>>> all, which simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.
>>>
>>> The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the
>>> 450i SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic
>>> like the Force180's and 200's.
>>>
>>> 450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be
>>> called.
>>>
>>> On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all
>>> the existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference
>>> between a 450d and 450b?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <
>>> jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Kurt,

 The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the integrated
 units that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are similar to the
 Force 200 are supposed to be available in October.

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
 wrote:

 Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the
 450 (5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down
 to 5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to happen
 by end of 1st quarter this year.


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>



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Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

[Gino A. Villarini]

We moved to 450d and never looked back…

From: Af mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Bill 
Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 4:46 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about the 
same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly larger 
beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs about the same 
or a little better or worse?




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody needs some.
hit me offlist if you have a need

Paul, PDMNet

From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of 
George Skorup [george.sko...@cbcast.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM 
hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz anyway.

On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will be 
$349.  Standard discounts apply.

The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the people 
that paid for the upgrade keys it is going to be really interesting to see 
how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they make it too cheap then 
why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP 
price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it needs to be about $300'ish, but 
that will put it cheaper than the existing un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too 
much because that's approaching 450i pricing which is much more rugged 
hardware. Sounds like they may have to lower the price of the existing product 
line, (un-likely). That would be a problem because there are a lot of WISPS 
with contract pricing for future SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM 
is cheaper than what the already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like 
someone is going to have to make some hard decisions on how they price this 
stuff.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup 
mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:
Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.

The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and all, which 
simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.

The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the 450i 
SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic like the 
Force180's and 200's.

450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be called.

On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all the 
existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference between a 
450d and 450b?


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
Hey Kurt,

The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the integrated units 
that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are similar to the Force 200 
are supposed to be available in October.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the 450 
(5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down to 
5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to happen by end 
of 1st quarter this year.







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Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's

[Bill Prince]

For folks that are using the PMP450d (semi-integrated dish). It has about
the same gain as a small reflector with a stock PMP450 SM, but slightly
larger beamwidth 7° versus 6° for the RD. Do you find that it performs
about the same or a little better or worse?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> We still have about 50 of the regular 450 SMs 20MBit NIB, if anybody needs
> some.
> hit me offlist if you have a need
>
> Paul, PDMNet
> --
> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of George Skorup [
> george.sko...@cbcast.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2017 6:23 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new Cambium 450 CPE's
>
> I'm sure at some point they'll cease production on the original 450 SM
> hardware, like they already have with the original 450 AP. At least 5GHz
> anyway.
>
> On 6/9/2017 4:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>
> List on the integrated will be $299.  List on the one with the dish will
> be $349.  Standard discounts apply.
>
> The integrated version won't work with a reflector dish.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 4:49 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
> they can't un-cap the existing SM's because that wouldn't be fair to the
> people that paid for the upgrade keys it is going to be really
> interesting to see how they price the new 180/200 style 450 radio. If they
> make it too cheap then why would anyone buy the old style SM's anymore? A
> 450 5Ghz un-capped SM WISP price is $359.20. Personally in my opinion it
> needs to be about $300'ish, but that will put it cheaper than the existing
> un-capped 450. And $400.00 is too much because that's approaching 450i
> pricing which is much more rugged hardware. Sounds like they may have to
> lower the price of the existing product line, (un-likely). That would be a
> problem because there are a lot of WISPS with contract pricing for future
> SM purchases that will be pissed if the new SM is cheaper than what the
> already committed to. I really don't know, sounds like someone is going to
> have to make some hard decisions on how they price this stuff.
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:51 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Free license keys? Yeah, not gonna happen.
>>
>> The 450d is a standard 5GHz 450 SM board, internal patch antenna and all,
>> which simply feeds the horn/sub-reflector assembly.
>>
>> The new wideband 5GHz SMs as noted will do 4940-5925. Uncapped. Uses the
>> 450i SoC architecture. GigE. 30VDC passive POE and is polarity agnostic
>> like the Force180's and 200's.
>>
>> 450b is Force180 style. I forget what the Force200 style 450 will be
>> called.
>>
>> On 6/9/2017 1:37 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>> So does this mean Cambium is going to release license keys to uncap all
>> the existing expensive ridiculous costing 450d? What's the difference
>> between a 450d and 450b?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Kurt,
>>>
>>> The first of the 450b units will hit in July.  Those are the integrated
>>> units that are built like the Force 180.  The ones that are similar to the
>>> Force 200 are supposed to be available in October.
>>>
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>> 312-205-2519 <%28312%29%20205-2519> Office
>>> 574-220-7826 <%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know when cambium will be releasing the new CPE's for the
>>> 450 (5ghz) that have the unlimited throuput and will work all the way down
>>> to 5.1ghz at the $300-$350 price range? I thought it was supposed to happen
>>> by end of 1st quarter this year.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Adam Moffett]

The bigger screen would be worth it.


-- Original Message --
From: "Keefe John" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:35:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Spend a little more and get this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SM-FTTH-Tester-KOMSHINE-QX50-S-OTDR-1310-1550nm-32-30dB-as-EXFO-Fiber-OTDR-w-VFL/112386318451?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D188f138388b343b8b752d0f580216517%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112354147194




On 6/14/2017 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" 
To: "af@afmug.com"  
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Was there any feedback on this Adam?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com



http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html



What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.

The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only 
single mode wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Keefe John]

Spend a little more and get this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SM-FTTH-Tester-KOMSHINE-QX50-S-OTDR-1310-1550nm-32-30dB-as-EXFO-Fiber-OTDR-w-VFL/112386318451?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D188f138388b343b8b752d0f580216517%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D112354147194



On 6/14/2017 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Was there any feedback on this Adam?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com 
] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett

*Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
*To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html

What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.

The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only 
single mode wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Adam Moffett]

Nope.  We never bought it though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Paul McCall" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 6/14/2017 4:01:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com


Was there any feedback on this Adam?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com



http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html



What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.

The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only single 
mode wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

[Paul McCall]

Was there any feedback on this Adam?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:25 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OTDR on fs.com

http://www.fs.com/products/34153.html

What is the catch?  Seems uber cheap.
The dynamic range is low, but good enough for my purposes.  Only single mode 
wavelengths, but I don't need a multimode OTDR anyway.

[AFMUG] Wi-Fi Alliance introduces a certification program for new smart home construction | TechHive

[Jaime Solorza]

http://www.techhive.com/article/3200747/connected-home/wi-fi-alliance-introduces-wi-fi-certified-homes.html?google_editors_picks=true

[AFMUG] Cambium QinQ

[Carl Peterson]

If I have a SM set for QinQ with the SVLAN set, will it put any VLANS that
ingress the SM inside the S VLAN or only the default port VID and any
MAC->VLANS that are set on it?  i.e if I have the default port VID set to
501, and the S VLAN set to 600, it puts 501 inside S VLAN 600 but if a
tagged packet ingresses, 502 for example, will it also be put inside S VLAN
600?  I don't have a CSM/AP set up in my lab right now and I'm working on a
config.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: my emails to afmug dont show up in gmail tilsomeone responds

[Chuck McCown]

And me averaging about 50 grams of carbs per day/1200 calories per day.  

someday...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:48 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: my emails to afmug dont show up in gmail tilsomeone 
responds

Ha  ..well ..it's been a while and Let is over.  So here goes...my lunch...not 
yours..dollar Tacos and Tecate.. yes sir...these are awesome...I ate 12

On Jun 13, 2017 11:31 AM, "James Howard"  wrote:

  That’s good! I think it would be hard to choose which parts of him to pray 
for otherwise…..



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
  Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 7:27 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: my emails to afmug dont show up in gmail til someone 
responds



  No need to apologize...I still pray for all of you



  On Jun 12, 2017 6:20 PM, "Steve Jones"  wrote:

Some may remember a short time back when I hijacked the list and got 
"slightly" hostile with Jaime. (sorry Jaime)

upon sobriety I opted to unsubscribe from the list for lent.

Apparently the unsubscribe didn't fully take, its still had emails 
occasionally showing up in random folders and I found out that AFMUG was my 
only way to maintain sanity in this world of wireless warfare. Ive even atoned 
as best I could for my childish behavior by sending some bones to Paul a couple 
times.

I remember when we went to amazon initially there was some weirdness with 
the settings we had to make to not double up on emails. Now I don't see 
anything I send until it receives a response, so I suspect I'm occasionally 
doubling up on the same question because of the whole "did I ask the list this 
yet? I'm too lazy to check sent"

I'm pretty sure my shenanigans got me sent to spam/blocked sender for the 
vast majority of the list, cant blame them, I said a pretty low thing. but, 
that being then, this being now, anybody know how I get my filters, or whatever 
working, should I just drop my TOG and pull my communications to my work 
identified email? That's hosted exchange, it never displays, and the AFMUG 
archive I have is like 8 gb


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Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

[Bill Prince]

They never fail when they're in a back room.  ;-)

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> Except it never breaks.  I’ve got some Peplinks from 2006 still in my back
> room.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:26 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>
>
>
> We have a few customers using PepLink.  It is more of a consumer product,
> with a typical router GUI.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Doc was better than Maynard.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:29 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>
>
>
> He is one of the best horn players I have ever worked with.   He can hit
> those high notes and has great tonethink Mic Gillette form original
> Tower of Power horn section.
>
> He ordered the Meraki solution Gino recommended.
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik  ;)
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>  –
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>
>
>
> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>
> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>
> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>
> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:58 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>
>
>
> Wow, a trumpet player and an IT professional.  Must be a cool guy 😊
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 2:42 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>
>
>
> Our trumpet player is in IT support for his company and asked me what
> folks are using to handle and manage a dual ISP feed ; Comcast and Century
> Link are providers.  He wants to segregate emails, VoIP and document
> sharing from office to office (three states) from the normal Internet stuff
> like social media, Google, etc..
>
>
>
>
>
> They have Cisco routers and switches currently.  Wonder what the Borg
> might suggest?
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 1000 GPS and POE+

[Josh Luthman]

Epmp 1000 is 20 to 50ish volts

Works with Ubnt or Moto polarity

Remember netonix is normal only and that works

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 14, 2017 12:44 PM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:

> Ok, that's what I thought, but I can't get them to come up at the POE+
> setting.  I'll do bench testing this afternoon.
>
> On 6/14/2017 11:33 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> They are 802.3af compliant.  We run all of ours at 48V.
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> For some reason I thought I had tested this, but now it's not working.  I
>> thought that the EPMP 1000 GPS units (5ghz gigabit with Sync) will support
>> up to 54V, and would Run POE+.  I'm trying to power them off an Edgeswitch,
>> and I can only get them to come up if I run them at 24v.  At POE+, it looks
>> like it just keeps cycling the power on and off.  Does the POE+ only work
>> if the 45,78 pairs are Reversed?  I have another site that I can run at
>> POE+, but I think I might have the pairs reversed on the cables between the
>> Edgepoint and the APs.
>>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Moto M2 (XT1902-02) receives its Wi-Fi certification?

[Jaime Solorza]

Gino is resident certification snooper but this is interesting.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-M2-XT1902-02-receives-its-Wi-Fi-certification_id94986

Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

[Rory Conaway]

Except it never breaks.  I’ve got some Peplinks from 2006 still in my back room.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

We have a few customers using PepLink.  It is more of a consumer product, with 
a typical router GUI.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Doc was better than Maynard.

From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:29 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

He is one of the best horn players I have ever worked with.   He can hit those 
high notes and has great tonethink Mic Gillette form original Tower of 
Power horn section.
He ordered the Meraki solution Gino recommended.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Dennis Burgess 
mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Mikrotik  ;)


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
MikroTik Certified 
Trainer/Consultant
 – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
Office: 314-735-0270
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

Wow, a trumpet player and an IT professional.  Must be a cool guy 😊

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:42 PM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

Our trumpet player is in IT support for his company and asked me what folks are 
using to handle and manage a dual ISP feed ; Comcast and Century Link are 
providers.  He wants to segregate emails, VoIP and document sharing from office 
to office (three states) from the normal Internet stuff like social media, 
Google, etc..


They have Cisco routers and switches currently.  Wonder what the Borg might 
suggest?

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 1000 GPS and POE+

[Nate Burke]

Ok, that's what I thought, but I can't get them to come up at the POE+ 
setting.  I'll do bench testing this afternoon.


On 6/14/2017 11:33 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

They are 802.3af compliant.  We run all of ours at 48V.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Nate Burke > wrote:


For some reason I thought I had tested this, but now it's not
working.  I thought that the EPMP 1000 GPS units (5ghz gigabit
with Sync) will support up to 54V, and would Run POE+.  I'm trying
to power them off an Edgeswitch, and I can only get them to come
up if I run them at 24v.  At POE+, it looks like it just keeps
cycling the power on and off.  Does the POE+ only work if the
45,78 pairs are Reversed?  I have another site that I can run at
POE+, but I think I might have the pairs reversed on the cables
between the Edgepoint and the APs.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 1000 GPS and POE+

[Josh Baird]

They are 802.3af compliant.  We run all of ours at 48V.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> For some reason I thought I had tested this, but now it's not working.  I
> thought that the EPMP 1000 GPS units (5ghz gigabit with Sync) will support
> up to 54V, and would Run POE+.  I'm trying to power them off an Edgeswitch,
> and I can only get them to come up if I run them at 24v.  At POE+, it looks
> like it just keeps cycling the power on and off.  Does the POE+ only work
> if the 45,78 pairs are Reversed?  I have another site that I can run at
> POE+, but I think I might have the pairs reversed on the cables between the
> Edgepoint and the APs.
>

Re: [AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

[Wireless Administrator]

OMG, Check with your doctor to see if your heart is healthy enough to ……..

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

 

Yeah, I was at that concert, afterwards Stevie, Linda Ronstadt and myself had a 
little “alone time”.  

 

1981 was truly a wonderful year.

 

THIS IS A TRUE STORY 

(ala Fargo) ;-)

 

From: Wireless Administrator 

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:02 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

 

Chuck,

This link is for you …..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOkZUEeKc4

 

Click here to enter the after life ………

 

I do not believe in human cloning, however, Stevie Nicks is certainly an 
exception.  I know I’d place an order Immediately if clones were produced. I 
suppose the line would be long and sales would be brisk.

 

Steve B.

[AFMUG] EPMP 1000 GPS and POE+

[Nate Burke]

For some reason I thought I had tested this, but now it's not working.  
I thought that the EPMP 1000 GPS units (5ghz gigabit with Sync) will 
support up to 54V, and would Run POE+.  I'm trying to power them off an 
Edgeswitch, and I can only get them to come up if I run them at 24v.  At 
POE+, it looks like it just keeps cycling the power on and off.  Does 
the POE+ only work if the 45,78 pairs are Reversed?  I have another site 
that I can run at POE+, but I think I might have the pairs reversed on 
the cables between the Edgepoint and the APs.

Re: [AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah, I was at that concert, afterwards Stevie, Linda Ronstadt and myself had a 
little “alone time”.  

1981 was truly a wonderful year.

THIS IS A TRUE STORY 
(ala Fargo) ;-)

From: Wireless Administrator 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

Chuck,

This link is for you …..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOkZUEeKc4

 

Click here to enter the after life ………

 

I do not believe in human cloning, however, Stevie Nicks is certainly an 
exception.  I know I’d place an order Immediately if clones were produced. I 
suppose the line would be long and sales would be brisk.

 

Steve B.

[AFMUG] (OT) Stevie Nicks revisited

[Wireless Administrator]

Chuck,

This link is for you ...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjOkZUEeKc4

 

Click here to enter the after life ...

 

I do not believe in human cloning, however, Stevie Nicks is certainly an
exception.  I know I'd place an order Immediately if clones were produced. I
suppose the line would be long and sales would be brisk.

 

Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

[Wireless Administrator]

Thanks …..

 

Steve

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

 

http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf

 

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Wireless Administrator  
wrote:

We just received a shipment of PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjectors.  Does anyone 
know where I can find documentation for the  jumper settings? There’s a sticker 
on the unit that indicated documentation can be found on their website but I 
don’t see it.

 

Steve B.

 

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

[Kurt Fankhauser]

take the cover off the unit and the jumper settings are printed on the PCB
board

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=16
>
> On 6/14/2017 9:27 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote:
>
> We just received a shipment of PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjectors.� Does
> anyone know where I can find documentation for the �jumper settings?
> There�s a sticker on the unit that indicated documentation can be found
> on their website but I don�t see it.
>
> �
>
> Steve B.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input appreciated

[Colin Stanners]

PMP320 is pretty reliable and would be an OK as an "older" platform if
interference didn't exist, service calls didn't need to be done in the cold
(or if weathertights would be big enough to actually fit RJ45s - recrimping
outdoors at -40 is not fun), and 40ms of added latency wasn't noted by
customers.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I hated the PMP320, but I've since learned that it could be worse.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Colin Stanners" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 6/14/2017 9:58:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input
> appreciated
>
> We have some PMP320s in heavy interference - took a lot of tweaking the RF
> reliability settings to get the links to be usable, I'm still very
> frustrated that the platform was so badly designed that such needed to be
> done. I don't think I've ever seen a crash from interference so it could be
> something else.
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> These are dead ducks, I know this.
>> I would bet however cambium has a nifty tool they used to use that took
>> all the data and spit out a wtf report.
>> I'm pretty sure I'm seeing random AP reboots from interference, looking
>> through the archive a thread from me indicated cambium told me at some
>> point in the past if I'm configured upper 3.65 with no failover channel it
>> will just crash reboot. I don't have the email chain from them because we
>> dumped an exchange server a few years ago.
>> This particular AP was doing the thing where CSM would stay connected,
>> show connected, but become unresponsive, Ive dicked all I can with the sm
>> isolation and aging time workarounds, finally took it to a lower 3.65
>> channel, but left upper enabled, as I understand, this keeps the unit
>> abiding by upper 3.65 rules in todays FCC new world order.
>> not all that concerned right now about troubleshooting the issue, I just
>> really want to get a tool to read the crash reports.
>> Cambium, I was a good guy and stole your AP telnet login but never
>> released it to the wild, Can you toss a brother a bone here?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

[Jerry Head]

http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=16

On 6/14/2017 9:27 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote:


We just received a shipment of PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjectors.  Does 
anyone know where I can find documentation for the  jumper settings? 
There�s a sticker on the unit that indicated documentation can be 
found on their website but I don�t see it.


Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

[Josh Baird]

http://tickets.packetflux.com/downloads/poeinjectorjumpers.pdf

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Wireless Administrator 
wrote:

> We just received a shipment of PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjectors.  Does
> anyone know where I can find documentation for the  jumper settings?
> There’s a sticker on the unit that indicated documentation can be found on
> their website but I don’t see it.
>
>
>
> Steve B.
>

[AFMUG] PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjector jumpers

[Wireless Administrator]

We just received a shipment of PacketFlux Gigabit SyncInjectors.  Does
anyone know where I can find documentation for the  jumper settings? There's
a sticker on the unit that indicated documentation can be found on their
website but I don't see it.

 

Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds

[Jeremy]

We have a few customers using PepLink.  It is more of a consumer product,
with a typical router GUI.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Doc was better than Maynard.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:29 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>
> He is one of the best horn players I have ever worked with.   He can hit
> those high notes and has great tonethink Mic Gillette form original
> Tower of Power horn section.
> He ordered the Meraki solution Gino recommended.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
>> Mikrotik  ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>>
>> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
>>  –
>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
>>
>>
>>
>> For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
>>
>> Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
>>
>> Office: 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>
>>
>> E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:58 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow, a trumpet player and an IT professional.  Must be a cool guy 😊
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 2:42 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Dual ISP feeds
>>
>>
>>
>> Our trumpet player is in IT support for his company and asked me what
>> folks are using to handle and manage a dual ISP feed ; Comcast and Century
>> Link are providers.  He wants to segregate emails, VoIP and document
>> sharing from office to office (three states) from the normal Internet stuff
>> like social media, Google, etc..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They have Cisco routers and switches currently.  Wonder what the Borg
>> might suggest?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input appreciated

[Josh Baird]

What product are you talking about that is worse? :)

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I hated the PMP320, but I've since learned that it could be worse.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Colin Stanners" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 6/14/2017 9:58:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input
> appreciated
>
> We have some PMP320s in heavy interference - took a lot of tweaking the RF
> reliability settings to get the links to be usable, I'm still very
> frustrated that the platform was so badly designed that such needed to be
> done. I don't think I've ever seen a crash from interference so it could be
> something else.
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> These are dead ducks, I know this.
>> I would bet however cambium has a nifty tool they used to use that took
>> all the data and spit out a wtf report.
>> I'm pretty sure I'm seeing random AP reboots from interference, looking
>> through the archive a thread from me indicated cambium told me at some
>> point in the past if I'm configured upper 3.65 with no failover channel it
>> will just crash reboot. I don't have the email chain from them because we
>> dumped an exchange server a few years ago.
>> This particular AP was doing the thing where CSM would stay connected,
>> show connected, but become unresponsive, Ive dicked all I can with the sm
>> isolation and aging time workarounds, finally took it to a lower 3.65
>> channel, but left upper enabled, as I understand, this keeps the unit
>> abiding by upper 3.65 rules in todays FCC new world order.
>> not all that concerned right now about troubleshooting the issue, I just
>> really want to get a tool to read the crash reports.
>> Cambium, I was a good guy and stole your AP telnet login but never
>> released it to the wild, Can you toss a brother a bone here?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input appreciated

[Adam Moffett]

I hated the PMP320, but I've since learned that it could be worse.


-- Original Message --
From: "Colin Stanners" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 6/14/2017 9:58:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input 
appreciated


We have some PMP320s in heavy interference - took a lot of tweaking the 
RF reliability settings to get the links to be usable, I'm still very 
frustrated that the platform was so badly designed that such needed to 
be done. I don't think I've ever seen a crash from interference so it 
could be something else.


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:

These are dead ducks, I know this.
I would bet however cambium has a nifty tool they used to use that 
took all the data and spit out a wtf report.
I'm pretty sure I'm seeing random AP reboots from interference, 
looking through the archive a thread from me indicated cambium told me 
at some point in the past if I'm configured upper 3.65 with no 
failover channel it will just crash reboot. I don't have the email 
chain from them because we dumped an exchange server a few years ago.
This particular AP was doing the thing where CSM would stay connected, 
show connected, but become unresponsive, Ive dicked all I can with the 
sm isolation and aging time workarounds, finally took it to a lower 
3.65 channel, but left upper enabled, as I understand, this keeps the 
unit abiding by upper 3.65 rules in todays FCC new world order.
not all that concerned right now about troubleshooting the issue, I 
just really want to get a tool to read the crash reports.
Cambium, I was a good guy and stole your AP telnet login but never 
released it to the wild, Can you toss a brother a bone here?

Re: [AFMUG] Advantage FSK Keys

[Nate Burke]

Dang, I have a single customer off an FSK AP who want's 10mb sustained, 
and I don't want to have to go physically change out the SM.


On 6/14/2017 7:11 AM, Daniel White wrote:

Has to be P9 or better hardware.

I'm not even sure if distribution can sell you that key any longer.

Daniel White
Managing Director of Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:39 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Advantage FSK Keys

Can you upgrade a 5200 radio to a 5250 with a software key?


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Re: [AFMUG] reading 320 crash reports - cambium guys input appreciated

[Colin Stanners]

We have some PMP320s in heavy interference - took a lot of tweaking the RF
reliability settings to get the links to be usable, I'm still very
frustrated that the platform was so badly designed that such needed to be
done. I don't think I've ever seen a crash from interference so it could be
something else.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> These are dead ducks, I know this.
> I would bet however cambium has a nifty tool they used to use that took
> all the data and spit out a wtf report.
> I'm pretty sure I'm seeing random AP reboots from interference, looking
> through the archive a thread from me indicated cambium told me at some
> point in the past if I'm configured upper 3.65 with no failover channel it
> will just crash reboot. I don't have the email chain from them because we
> dumped an exchange server a few years ago.
> This particular AP was doing the thing where CSM would stay connected,
> show connected, but become unresponsive, Ive dicked all I can with the sm
> isolation and aging time workarounds, finally took it to a lower 3.65
> channel, but left upper enabled, as I understand, this keeps the unit
> abiding by upper 3.65 rules in todays FCC new world order.
> not all that concerned right now about troubleshooting the issue, I just
> really want to get a tool to read the crash reports.
> Cambium, I was a good guy and stole your AP telnet login but never
> released it to the wild, Can you toss a brother a bone here?
>

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik arp and 192.168.x.x

[Adam Moffett]

It's hard to say without seeing what you're seeing and where you're 
seeing it.


Your router presumably has a default route, so if it receives a packet 
destined for 192.168.2.1, then that's where it will send it.  If you 
aren't filtering that traffic, then it could make it all the way to your 
egress by following default routes (where your upstream probably drops 
it).  You're the default route for your customer's router, so the same 
applies for them.  Weird destination IP? Send it to default route.




-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 6/13/2017 10:14:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik arp and 192.168.x.x

yep, but those subnets aren't present on the network, first step on 
installation of a new mikrotik is default, remove config. Theres no 
routes in the tables to these subnets, and other than when I toss it on 
for testing those subnets don't exist anywhere in the network



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:32 PM, 
can...@believewireless.net wrote:

Are you redistributing connected and/or static routes by chance?

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Steve Jones 
 wrote:

I don't know if this is normal to see or what. I cant figure it out
We have sites that are all isolated by mikrotiks and use ospf between 
them


what I'm seeing is stuff like site A having a customer on 1.2.3.4 at 
both sites A and B I'm seeing conversations between 1.2.3.4 from site 
A and 192.168.2.1 at site B. Site B does not have the 192.168.2 
subnet even present. when I put an IP in that subnet on site B 
mikrotik I see a MAC matching that IP, it is also present for an 
actual customer, we will say 5.6.7.8


I'm wondering if there isn't some form of tunnel between these two 
customers isolated by multiple routers that is leaking internal 
traffic out or something of that nature. I'm currently dropping that 
traffic now, I should have been from the get go, but what I don't 
understand is how, with no routes or subnets present this 
communication is even happening.


Scared me assumes the CIA hacked all my mikrotiks, then hijacked 
customer routers and are somehow using my network to mine bitcoin to 
fund black site operations. Reality tells me its misconfiguration 
somewhere on my part


any ideas?

Re: [AFMUG] Advantage FSK Keys

[Daniel White]

Has to be P9 or better hardware.

I'm not even sure if distribution can sell you that key any longer.

Daniel White
Managing Director of Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:39 PM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Advantage FSK Keys
> 
> Can you upgrade a 5200 radio to a 5250 with a software key?


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Re: [AFMUG] Contact for CTI.

[Daniel White]

Brandon,

 

I can understand the frustration.  I would encourage anyone to engage me and
your account manager if there is anything that isn't up to satisfaction with
any of our departments.

 

Daniel White

Managing Director of Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: 'Daniel White' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contact for CTI.

 

Daniel,

Thank for the update. Mike has always been great he is the reason we went
back to CTI in the first place but I felt like I was going in circles on
this. I probably have 25 emails on this simple issue and almost always the
follow up is being initiated by me. I have other RMA items sitting here
waiting to go to CTI and didn't want to send them until we figured out why
the last batch was such a problem.  My intention was not to drag you guys
through the mud on this but at some point everyone gets frustrated enough on
issues to just throw their hands up and quit. I was to that point. Ill give
you some details off list.

 

Thanks 

Brandon

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Daniel White
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Cc: Daniel White
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Contact for CTI.

 

Brandon,

 

I hear your frustration on this RMA.  I'll be doing a post-mortem on it.

 

I know Mike - your sales rep - is working with you on it but our RMA policy
wasn't followed on the three you have outstanding.  I'm glad we found the
gear (it was sent to our corporate office - not our warehouse which is in a
separate location) and will be processing it today.  I'm sure you can
understand that sending equipment to the wrong location and without a
ConVergence RMA number can lead to a lot of confusion.

 

For reference - our RMA form and instructions are found here:
http://www.cticonnect.com/v/vspfiles/rmaform.html

 

My contact information is below.  I hate to say I'm not frequently on the
lists anymore - this group is like family to me - so if there is any concern
or questions about ConVergence do not hesitate to reach out to me directly
below.

 

Thank you!

 

Daniel White

Managing Director of Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] Contact for CTI.

 

Anyone have an email address for someone at CTI that can actually get
something done.  I'm beyond frustrated with the run around I am getting on a
simple Cambium RMA it's been weeks and every time I email to follow up with
them I am asked to provide the same info I have already given them.
Apparently I need a boss to get involved. 

 

They were so bad for so long years ago but a few years ago now a new sales
rep kept calling me and I finally gave him a chance. Everything went
smoothly and eventually I ended up buying just about everything from them.
Its been great for the last two years no issues but man the last several
months its like the old CTI is back.  I'm about done with them.

 

While I am at if anyone know of any vendors that sell Cambium and can ship
out of Chicago FedEx? I get FedEx ground out of Chicago the next day. Its
one of the main reasons along with my sales rep I have been using
Convergence. 

 

Thanks,

Brandon

 

 


 
 

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