Re: [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon
My verification subject was: Amazon SES Address Verification Request in region US East (N. Virginia) Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Curtis Brotherton via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Here comes the Amazon Verification Email … Click the link in the email, and that will verify your email address as valid with Amazon. I will be flipping the switch tomorrow that restores the headers to display the actual person and email address of the sender (which also fixes the threading)J === Curtis Brotherton PDMNet (772) 564-6800 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Adjustments to the AFMUG lists / Amazon Well…… As you all probably are aware, PDMNet has been managing the AFMUG list for Chuck and we have been using Amazon to do it. There were some bumps to get it off the ground as Amazon has VERY specific/strict methods that have to be adhered to in order to send email through their servers. That has resulted in a few differences in the way the list emails look/act with certain clients, and MUCH debate has gone on about it on the list J In early November, we used our test environment with Amazon to test how things would work if we went the “Amazon verified email” method, whereby each new subscriber to the list would first get prompted with an Amazon email verification request, and then the AFMUG verification email. This method seems to work just fine (we actively used it like that internally for a week or so) and it handles all the backend “stuff” just like we want it to.) The email headers then work like they would in any other mail server. We queried the AFMUG list and there was no resistance to us making the changes and adding Amazon verification, but we just got slammed with other projects and didn’t pull the trigger on the switchover. Since November, all new subscribers to the list HAVE BEEN required to do the Amazon verification as part of the AFMUG signup. We are now ready to pull the trigger on the changes to get everyone else Amazon verified so we can make the changes to the email headers, etc. Here’s what will happen…. All existing AFMUG subscribers that have not been Amazon verified (most of you) will get an email by the end of today from Amazon to verify your email address. The verification emails are good for 24 hours only. The email does NOT say anything about AFMUG unfortunately, and we can’t change it so just be looking for it, check SPAM folders, etc. Probably on Friday, we will turn on “normal headers”. If you have not been Amazon verified at that point, you will still get emails but if you send any emails to the list they will NOT go through. We will monitor the changes closely and make any adjustments that are needed along the way. *To recap, you will get an Amazon verification email shortly. It’s important. Follow the instructions please.* Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT equipment - Atlanta
Matt Hardy is in ATL. Hit him up on FB or m...@ubnt.com Regards, Chuck On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I need help. Who here has some UBNT equipment in Atlanta ? Came down to my brother in laws. They moved to another house in Cobb County. Have a three story home with a Belkin. Wifi sucks. Will never be able to work here ! Doesn't UBNT have a downtown Atlanta office ? Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] OT Linkedin
You can un-endorse un-recommend people. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I wish there was a way to un-endorse certain people...
Re: [AFMUG] Wind speed cut off for tower climbing
Not trying to brag by any means at all, but I've been up in steady 20+ with gusts in the 40's...and I'd feel comfortable on the right tower doing it again. To me it depends on the tower...a Rohn 25 isn't going to get the same grace as a Rohn SSV-MW. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I found some safety info setting it at 25mph yes I agree weather is key. Rain. Ice or snow...I wont climb...thinking of giving up climbing towers next year ...passing baton to son Jaime Solorza On Dec 25, 2014 9:33 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I leave it up to my climbers but above 20 is questionable (and usually miserable), above 30 is getting dangerous. Kinda depends too if it's a steady wind or gusting. Also how cold it is. Like I said tho I let my climbers decide if they think they can perform the job safely. I don't think comtrain or osha has a cutoff. 2 cents Sean On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: At what wind speeds do you climbers say no? What do Comtrain folks advice during course? Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Interview to be shown here...
It's going to be shown at a few theatres all over. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:14 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: give them 51st status On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.elnuevodia.com/puertoricoestrenaralapolemicapeliculatheinterview-1915932.html News in spanish, but local chain to screen the Movie… who gots the cojo… now?? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3998189472
I get 250x250...have multi-gig here...
On our own directly connected, I get 780's-840's.
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
I just got my new speedtest.net server running with Dave's help. Thanks
Dave!
It's at http://avative.speedtest.net
Can any of you get over 500Mbps to it?
It has a 10Gbps adapter and sits on a 10Gbps circuit, but I think I've got
something cutting it to 600Mbps...
I also talked to Ookla and they know about a problem with Chrome on
Windows where flash isn't allowing it to do the full Gbps. So for now use a
Mac? Or use IE on windows if you have a Gigabit connection to test on
speedtest.net
-Original Message-
From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 12:42 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Good point, I'll check for that!
Since Chrome pulls the same context on all my machines that I log into
Google, that makes sense why it would affect more than just one.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright via Af
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
Chrome plugins causing the drop, perhaps? Even naked Chrome runs pretty
heavy on resources.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson via
Af
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
AFMUG server must have stripped the jpgs, because they are attached in the
send folder, but when I received my own message the jpgs were gone.
Anywho, I am seeing several hundred megs difference between IE and Chrome
on several machine to several different servers in Utah.
I get about 900Mbps both ways with IE and about 6-700Mbps in Chrome.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
no attachment...
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On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has
changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE.
And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in
the past month.
Anyone else seeing this?
It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached.
Same everything except using IE instead of Chrome.
Noticed this on several machines and several host servers on
speedtest.net
Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives
Today, more than half of me says to get rid of email. We currently offer it, have a low take rate, and those that take it don't use it. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Sam Lambie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hopefully no one subscribes to the AFMUG list. I am at 4.28 gigs just for this account. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 3 gig total, more can be purchased. Just what comes with it, it’s a combined across all mailboxes, so no its not store everything forever. Spam control is the same system we use, just like any system, works great most of the time, lets some things though and in spurts just like anything else. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives How good is spam control? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:57 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives 3 gig total or 3 gig per box? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:30:38 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives WE do 1000 mailboxes 3 gig of storage, your own management interface to add, change etc, plus filtering for 79.99 a month. That would be .08 per mailbox.. Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:16 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Google Apps for ISPs EOL - Alternatives Received the email from Virtacore that they now have a solution for us to migrate to. .50 a box seems a bit high doesn't it? What alternatives are out there for a reliable hosted solution? Here is the mail: Dear Valued Partner, Thank you for your continued business. As your trusted provider of Cloud services, we strive to bring you great solutions for the best value. Since Google has announced the end-of-life of their Google Apps for Service Provider hosted email platform that you purchased through Virtacore, we have worked to find an alternate best in class solution to meet your hosted email needs. We pride ourselves on your satisfaction with our service. To assist you with business continuity, we have chosen a product that provides your customers with the following: ● Reliable mail platform with mailboxes that have up to 7GB of storage ● Best in class spam solution ● Private email platform to ensure your ends users’ security ● Elegant webmail interface with modern design We are excited to introduce to you Virtacore’s new hosted email solution! Our new platform is architected using the industry-leading Zimbra email and collaboration platform, which will meet all of your needs today and continues to evolve to ensure that we meet all of your needs in the future. We hope that you are as excited as we are, and look forward to working with you and hosting your email on our new platform. As the Google platform will end-of-life in July of 2015, we would like to get started on getting you set up on the new platform right away. Our team is working on a transition schedule that will start in Q1 2015 and end in Q2 2015. In order to normalize pricing across the new enterprise platform, we are also introducing a $0.50/account/month (or $100/month minimum) service for our standard mail service delivery. Please contact me at svla...@virtacore.com by December 31, 2014 so we can provide all of the details around the new platform and get started. We understand that migrating email platforms is a big undertaking. We have been working hard to establish best practices and communication for the migration, including dedicated support websites and FAQs that we will provide to you. If you do find that you need additional project management and/or customer communication support, Virtacore has put together an affordable migration services package that you can take advantage of. This package will walk you through each step of the migration process. We sincerely appreciate your business and look forward to working together to bring your clients to our next generation hosted email solution. Regards, *Sarah Vlasic* ISP Email Migration Project Coordinator [image: Image removed by sender. Virtacore Systems, Inc.] -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office
Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net optomized for IE??
I don't see the issue...here's my result in Chrome.
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3980421483
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
no attachment...
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bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/12/2014 10:20 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
I'm not sure what is going on, but recently I've noticed Ookla has
changed speedtest.net so it works a lot better with IE.
And it USED to work just fine with Chrome, but they changed something in
the past month.
Anyone else seeing this?
It's very apparent at Gigabit speeds, see attached.
Same everything except using IE instead of Chrome.
Noticed this on several machines and several host servers on
speedtest.net
Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-Lite speedtest results in PMP deployment
We have the new sector announced, and performance was only slightly better. Regards, Chuck On Dec 11, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: how much of that performance gain is because better antennas This is actually an old sector on this one ;) What sector is being used? This test AP uses one of the old style medium gain titanium sector antennas… so 17db 90 degree by 8 degree pattern.. Model number AM-M-V5G-Ti… *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.
Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly..
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the
playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
protection was a little lacking. Ultimately it's still an analog medium
(you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.
Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, Pixel 1342x975
displaying color E0 at timestamp 58:44:13.221 Maybe I'm naive, but it
doesn't seem like it should be that hard.
On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM,
they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Because then people could save the movies in RAM, and someone would
figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
for free.
It's a licensing issue... that's why streaming is OK.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour. Why not stick in a
32GB memory and be done? That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they
would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space.
At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so
places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2.
Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U
device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.
You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while,
then burst back to 90Mbps.
I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the
built in TV’s.
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
streaming 4K now.
Lovely
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K
now.
http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
--
Ryan Ghering
Network Operations - Plains.Net
Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
Re: [AFMUG] I'm driving around a new area and just found this
Wow that's awesome! Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What is that URL on the back window? Is it like a come dressed up to a birthday party type thing? Or just hardcore fans? On 12/10/2014 6:17 PM, joseph marsh via Af wrote: Lol On Dec 10, 2014 6:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Nice! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] I'm driving around a new area and just found this Rory Conaway Triad Wireless Sent from a mobile device. Please ignore typos.
Re: [AFMUG] Pirate bay Raided and shut down, may never return.
Again? Regards, Chuck On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Ryan Ghering via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Not sure how to feel about this one.. http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/195647-the-pirate-bay-raided-shut-down-by-swedish-police-and-it-may-never-return -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa
Sorry guys, been advocating in DC for WISPA. TCP Yes you can disable the 2.4 WiFi. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can you entirely disable the 2.4 GHz local wifi AP radio if desired? On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes. We installed 3 of these links on a very heavily congested tower, with about 5' of vertical separation, with very little available 5GHz spectrum. It found spectrum that it liked, however it created some issues for our other links on this same tower. We had to still do some frequency planning to avoid disruption to existing links. All the cloud tools we have seen at tradeshows are working as described previously. 2x20MHz Channel, 346.7Mbit PHY Rate, B5 Integrated, 3.64 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 173.3Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.73 miles. (This link may be misaligned still) 2x20MHz Channel, 260Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.39 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 231.1Mbit PHY Rate, B5, 8.72 miles. I installed 3 of these myself. I found the installation process to be relatively easy, and they have some neat little tweaks. The WiFi alignment via iPhone was also helpful. Additionally, ground crew was also able to login to the 2.4GHz Wifi. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does it work? With all promised features. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week. Secondly, I was given permission to disclose we have deployed 4 PtP links already of both B5 and B5C...questions? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Unlike some vendors, I think they are just taking their time on the firmware to make sure it’s right. It’s kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. If you remember, it took several Ubiquiti quite a long time on the M series to get past some chipset features and the Quantenna chipset is pretty new. They are blazing the trail here the same as the Cambium products. Remember the delays on the 450 due to hardware? At this point I only get annoyed if I don’t know if there is any progress like AirControl or the 12 month old Beta firmware on AirGateways. Considering I’m using boatloads of them, I’d like to see it come out of Beta someday. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 8:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa Got a call from our distributor. Next delivery date for our B5 link is mid of January. Hope they have enough capital to live without selling anything. We’ve not paid anything so we’ve no real problem with this.
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa
Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week. Secondly, I was given permission to disclose we have deployed 4 PtP links already of both B5 and B5C...questions? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Unlike some vendors, I think they are just taking their time on the firmware to make sure it’s right. It’s kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. If you remember, it took several Ubiquiti quite a long time on the M series to get past some chipset features and the Quantenna chipset is pretty new. They are blazing the trail here the same as the Cambium products. Remember the delays on the 450 due to hardware? At this point I only get annoyed if I don’t know if there is any progress like AirControl or the 12 month old Beta firmware on AirGateways. Considering I’m using boatloads of them, I’d like to see it come out of Beta someday. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 8:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa Got a call from our distributor. Next delivery date for our B5 link is mid of January. Hope they have enough capital to live without selling anything. We’ve not paid anything so we’ve no real problem with this.
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa
Yes. We installed 3 of these links on a very heavily congested tower, with about 5' of vertical separation, with very little available 5GHz spectrum. It found spectrum that it liked, however it created some issues for our other links on this same tower. We had to still do some frequency planning to avoid disruption to existing links. All the cloud tools we have seen at tradeshows are working as described previously. 2x20MHz Channel, 346.7Mbit PHY Rate, B5 Integrated, 3.64 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 173.3Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.73 miles. (This link may be misaligned still) 2x20MHz Channel, 260Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.39 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 231.1Mbit PHY Rate, B5, 8.72 miles. I installed 3 of these myself. I found the installation process to be relatively easy, and they have some neat little tweaks. The WiFi alignment via iPhone was also helpful. Additionally, ground crew was also able to login to the 2.4GHz Wifi. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does it work? With all promised features. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week. Secondly, I was given permission to disclose we have deployed 4 PtP links already of both B5 and B5C...questions? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Unlike some vendors, I think they are just taking their time on the firmware to make sure it’s right. It’s kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. If you remember, it took several Ubiquiti quite a long time on the M series to get past some chipset features and the Quantenna chipset is pretty new. They are blazing the trail here the same as the Cambium products. Remember the delays on the 450 due to hardware? At this point I only get annoyed if I don’t know if there is any progress like AirControl or the 12 month old Beta firmware on AirGateways. Considering I’m using boatloads of them, I’d like to see it come out of Beta someday. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 8:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa Got a call from our distributor. Next delivery date for our B5 link is mid of January. Hope they have enough capital to live without selling anything. We’ve not paid anything so we’ve no real problem with this.
Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa
Setup for 50/50 and can get 165Mb FD on the 346Mbit PHY Rate link for example using MT BW Test... Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: PHY rate vs actual data rate? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa Yes. We installed 3 of these links on a very heavily congested tower, with about 5' of vertical separation, with very little available 5GHz spectrum. It found spectrum that it liked, however it created some issues for our other links on this same tower. We had to still do some frequency planning to avoid disruption to existing links. All the cloud tools we have seen at tradeshows are working as described previously. 2x20MHz Channel, 346.7Mbit PHY Rate, B5 Integrated, 3.64 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 173.3Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.73 miles. (This link may be misaligned still) 2x20MHz Channel, 260Mbit PHY Rate, B5C, 14.39 miles. 2x20MHz Channel, 231.1Mbit PHY Rate, B5, 8.72 miles. I installed 3 of these myself. I found the installation process to be relatively easy, and they have some neat little tweaks. The WiFi alignment via iPhone was also helpful. Additionally, ground crew was also able to login to the 2.4GHz Wifi. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Does it work? With all promised features. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Well...I just got told I could disclose this information... Official position, units start shipping to EAP customers by the end of this week. Secondly, I was given permission to disclose we have deployed 4 PtP links already of both B5 and B5C...questions? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Unlike some vendors, I think they are just taking their time on the firmware to make sure it’s right. It’s kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. If you remember, it took several Ubiquiti quite a long time on the M series to get past some chipset features and the Quantenna chipset is pretty new. They are blazing the trail here the same as the Cambium products. Remember the delays on the 450 due to hardware? At this point I only get annoyed if I don’t know if there is any progress like AirControl or the 12 month old Beta firmware on AirGateways. Considering I’m using boatloads of them, I’d like to see it come out of Beta someday. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af *Sent:* Monday, December 1, 2014 8:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosa Got a call from our distributor. Next delivery date for our B5 link is mid of January. Hope they have enough capital to live without selling anything. We’ve not paid anything so we’ve no real problem with this.
Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment
All I could find... http://www.ibetor.es/pdf/IBETOR-Ib-PmP_en.pdf Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Who sells pmp equipment for this band? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 2:05 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment That makes sense now. Still doubtful on business model and ROI. Their mesh AC AP looks like a Cisco dual band AP I installed several for a Cisco partner in Midland and was not impressed with coverage and all the controller issues they had setting them up Jaime Solorza On Nov 25, 2014 10:39 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Is there a fee for each CPE installation? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment Sorry I misspoke. They don’t own the spectrum, but they file the 602 with the spectrum holder. Similar to leasing spectrum in 38GHz, etc. Each transmit site (CPE or AP) has to be registered like 3.65GHz. Anyways the process typically takes 48 hours max. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:17 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment They own LMDS? Jaime Solorza On Nov 25, 2014 8:05 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Using an FCC form 602. Similar to 3.65, except they don’t have to wait for authorization since it is their spectrum. Takes about 24 hours or so. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Vivint Wireless Experiment So one of my local WISP buddies asked me about Vivint's 28GHz deployment. He has noticed their gear on peoples rooftop with a CPE pointed back to AP on bank building and another antenna with AP used to cover neighborhood. His question is how are these licensed? Like 3.65GHz or other way since they are PTMP? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] wind speed cut off for climbing
I climbed last week for 5 hours, 25-30mph steady wind over 70', 40-50mph gusts at 26 degrees...it sucked. I was upgrading backhauls at 145-170' Regards, Chuck On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Ours are normally the opposite. We have more climbs for shorted/water in cables than we do for dead radios. We might have 1-2 dead APs a year. On 11/24/2014 11:11 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: If it's Ubnt it's probably a dead radio. Probably 1/10 chance the cable shorted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yep, could either be a dead AP or a shorted cable... I don't think there's any way to tell from the ground. It is a lot harder to make that decision when someone else is doing the climbing... I wouldn't ask anyone to go up in weather I wouldn't climb in myself, but then again, I've also climbed in weather I wouldn't tell someone else to go up in. I don't think there really is a good rule of thumb, a lot depends on what the climber is comfortable with, and experience. -- *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Luthman via Af [ af@afmug.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 12:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wind speed cut off for climbing The radio is pulling too much current. Probably it is an overload/short. It will fade out and then come on full brightness. This was the green LED and may not exist with the LED anymore, especially since it's a different type of LED. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I’ve never seen a flashing UBNT power supply, what does that mean? Overload/short? *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 10:55 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wind speed cut off for climbing its only 100 feet, but its a shitty tower to climb, all angled, one of those tripod ones that suck when theyre wet. Ive slipped on this tower new as in this would be his first unattended climb since training im assuming its just a bad radio (flashing ubnt power supply, but could be a failed cable) on an omni On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I would worry more about gusts than steady wind, especially for rope work or complex positioning. Might need additional ground crew and taglines, maybe a second climber. When you say new climber, how new? What kind of training/certification? Ultimately you are depending on the climber to call it off if it’s not safe, and a newbie might not have the experience to know when it’s not safe. If you’re talking about today, at least it’s been way above freezing the past 2 days, so the likelihood of rain freezing to the tower should be minimized. Also, how high are you sending him? Big difference between 100 and 300 feet. *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 10:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] wind speed cut off for climbing fun wintery rain sleet snow mix, new climber 38mph wind gusts, ap outage On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Brian Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Depends what i'm climbing for. Repair or upgrade? Is there rain/sleet/snow mixed with the wind? On 11/24/2014 10:31 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: whats everybodys rule of thumb for cutting off climbing -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Sync on UBNT Titanium
We had an implementation of UBNT sync that was less than favorable. 3 links in the same 90 degree plane...it helped slightly, reduced total throughput, channel management still had to be done, and true Cambium-style sync was never achieved. It never worked in 2.4GHz IMO. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If you two kids don't stop fighting I swear to god I'm pulling over this car and slapping you with my ring hand. On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Your cable and DSL is a lot slower and more expensive than it is here. The physics are easier to accomplish when you don't have to move as many bits through the air. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:13:19 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sync on UBNT Titanium That's fine. We'll go back to running the same wisp that is taking both the cable co and clec's in-town customers and has been for the past 10 years... without sync. On 11/21/2014 06:39 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: Those are very compelling, but not enough bits without bigger channels, which then need sync. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, November 21, 2014 7:19:14 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sync on UBNT Titanium Or you can swap it out with -AC and get 65Mbps on a 10MHz channel, realtime airview, and much better selectivity :P On 11/21/2014 03:10 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: you can swap it all out with epmp On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It may work, but it will tank your throughput. On 11/21/2014 01:32 PM, Jerry Richardson via Af wrote: Has anyone successfully implemented? � Jerry -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower
No. I have not at all. In fact, my most recent increase has us over $6600 for 4 towers that barely turn $7k in revenue. I'm trying to get land leases with the property owners for a new tower or in a near location right now. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Amen to crown castle we are doing a new site and we wanted to use crown instead of building our own site. But it's been a month and no contact from them. So we are laying conduit next week for fiber Cc can kiss my A$$ too Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: CC can go suck a bag of dicks. AT is much easier to work with. Too many stories of CC screwing people over. Obviously better yet if you can find a regional or local tower company. http://youtu.be/OT7xc_XqYO8 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:20:15 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Working with Crown Castle vs. American Tower We have 3 Crown Castle towers that we have had since 2003. Started around $ 500 per month for 4 sectors and 2 BHs back then. Rent escalations plus now having 6 sectors on it now, have brought the rent up to around $ 1000/month. We are exploring our other options for new towers. Two of the ideal locations are Crown Castle sites and I called them. My CC rep sent me all the standard fee sheets - $ 5K and up etc. and high rents. Has anyone got any precedence for pricing with CC where they have become competitive to someone like American Tower and their 4WISP program? A.T. starts at $ 500 for 2 3ft BHs and 4 Sectors. A premium tower, as they call it, can have a $ 100 to $ 150 uptick, but that still seems reasonable. Thoughts? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] procera results
http://imgur.com/wQKgVHv Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck, could you please put it in as an attachment, it’s too small. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:54 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] procera results Gotta love the real-time stats too... [image: Inline image 1] Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Kurt, are you blocking or shaping any torrents? I don’t see that in your chart. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser via Af *Sent:* Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] procera results Havn't shaped any traffic yet with this procera box. But here is a graph of what kind of traffic the clients are using as a whole in one days time. Of course Netflix is at top. But i am surprised at how close behind that youtube is (shows up as http media stream) Usually at any given time the Netflix/Youtube accounts for 50-75% of all traffic running through this box. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
Re: [AFMUG] ACA plans, lot of options this year.
We provide up to $100 per month for insurance coverage, we are too small for a group plan and feel like we have to provide something. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi, Did anybody get chance to look at the healthcare.gov website to see the plans offered in their markets? If you have not looked at it, give it a try and you will be surprised to see the number of options available. Since we are under 50 employees we are not required to offer any plans, I am guessing lot of people on this list will fall under that. Last year in Austin market there were just 2 providers offering plans and none of the plans were reasonable, this year there are lot of plans and some of them are reasonable. Big change in our market for sure. We are just planning to give fixed amount of $$ to each employee every month and let them buy the plan that meets their needs rather than forcing down two plans to everybody. Some of them may qualify for subsidy which they will have to let go if employer offers the plan. Is anybody else planning to do something like this? Are you guys seeing many more options in your market? Thanks, Tushar Patel 512-257-1077 www.westernbroadband.com
Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: Fiber to top of tower
We have used Armored, flat drop, and non-armored indoor/outdoor bend insensitive. We have standardized on the indoor/outdoor bend insensitive now as the guys don't need a splicer to terminate them using cheap chinese connectors. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: A paranoid person would use 1.5 inch Super 88 tape and then 14AWG solid electrical wire over the tape. *From:* David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 4:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [SPAM] Re: [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower I need to find my old pics of a company that used Zip ties on towers instead of hangers or cable tray. A 400' run of lmr400 came loose during a winter storm and the Electric company thought it was a guy wire flappin in the wind from a distance and had everyone pacing the floor and trying to get to the site to look to see what needs to be done. Needless to say as a standard policy we do not allow for any zip ties anywhere on any of our towers including metal ones unless they are rated for outdoor use and only for short distances. As for type of hybrid cable we use. We use Bestronics to customize the ends for good terminations. On 11/8/2014 4:26 PM, Craig House via Af wrote: We have purchased outdoor rated unarmored fiber to run up many towers over the last 2 to 3 years I have not yet had a problem with any of it wearing through and we do not put it in conduit As long as you zip tie it frequently so that it is not rubbing around on anything it shouldn't be a problem We have been buying our fiber preterminated from discount low-voltage.com I have never had anything sent to me that was not as we ordered it or that didn't work when we installed everything is been top-quality from them It even comes with a Kevlar Pullhook and plastic shroud over the pull in so you don't hang it on anything as you pull it up Craig Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2014, at 16:19, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don’t know much if anything about fiber, but I see lots of options here: http://ce.superioressex.com/products/communications/osp-cable/fiber/ I would think armor would provide gopher protection in direct burial applications and cut resistance in tower and grain leg applications, but I also see several rugged non-armored types listed there including: double jacket non-armor (series 1G) ADSS 100/200/400 heavy duty LT (series 1H) *From:* Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 3:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower So you're saying don't go armored fiber at all but just outdoor rated fiber and make sure nothing can rub through the jacket? We're looking for something tougher that can withstand the pull up the tower and then the elements since we don't want to run conduit. On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I cannot imagine a benefit to having armored/shielded on a fiber up the tower other than mechanical protection. It would not offer any electrical benefits and could actually pick up and transfer RF and induced impulses from lightening. *From:* Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:47 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fiber to top of tower Hey guys, For fiber runs to a switch or radio on top of the tower, do you recommend non-armored fiber or armored with the metal shield? If there a way to have armored fiber without metal inside? I'm wondering how some of you run fiber up to the top now and if having metal in the fiber is alright or if it's a bad idea because of lightning or grounding issues. Looking for best practices here. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi --
Re: [AFMUG] good fiber supply source?
We use Comstar, best to have it custom quoted. The thing is, I've had quotes from Codale, PTSupply, and Comstar. All quoted slightly differently, but they were within a few dollars of each other. Just presented a different way. I found out that they submit to the same manufacturers and the manus basically spit it back to them at roughly the same price. Only thing you might get a better deal on is if they have local stock. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I don’t know, seems about the same as local electrical? I would like to find a good supply for a fully loaded single mode fiber panel 26-144 SC patch. Seem any good sites/places for that? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *timothy steele via Af *Sent:* Saturday, November 8, 2014 4:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] good fiber supply source? Found this link on a diffrent forum.. the rates really seem lower then others? http://www.comstarsupply.com/
Re: [AFMUG] heat shrink
I buy from them for Heatshrink...they are pretty good. Parts purchased: GSHS-3635W-3/8-0 CATV-1300 M23053/15-101-0 M23053/4-302-0 Regards, Chuck On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I bought like 20 feet of it from ComStar Supply, probably well over a year ago. They don't even show it on their site anymore. But I just found this: http://www.heatshrinksupply.com/pages/product_detailsx.php?part=CFTV-0750 and that's about 1/2 the price I paid at ComStar! And I have about 5 feet left, so it's probably time to order again. On 11/7/2014 11:59 AM, Craig Schmaderer via Af wrote: DSG Canusa CFTV-750� does anyone have a good place to buy this, hard time finding anyone to sell my just a little bit.� � Or any other heat shrink for n connectors that anyone recommends, this was one that George uses. � *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *Date:* August 6, 2014 at 3:03:17 PM CDT *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* *Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 N connector sealing* *Reply-To:* af@afmug.com DSG Canusa CFTV-750 is what I use. 3:1 shrink, adhesive lined. Shrinks down to the Cambium LMR-240 jumpers just fine. It takes a bit of force to get the 3/4 tube over the slightly larger than 3/4 N male head, but it works. I use a Wagner heat gun on low. Things get a little warm, but nothing bad has happened in 30 or so APs. � *Craig R. Schmaderer* *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.* *Ph: 402-372-1975 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 402-372-1058* *Direct: 402-372-1052 402-372-1052* �
Re: [AFMUG] OT The effects of grid tie solar
That's not a bad investment. You bought those mostly on that business that went bankrupt right at huge discount? Regards, Chuck On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Big house, 4 3-ton air conditioning units, people not watching the thermostats. I did fall out of my chair. *From:* Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 12:02 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT The effects of grid tie solar Your bill would hit $600/month in the summer? I would fall out of my chair. They never pay. I have about $10K into a 10 kW array. This shows that I have hit the lowest it is possible to hit. You can see the change when the array was connected about 3 months ago. *From:* Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 05, 2014 11:37 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT The effects of grid tie solar Is that your monthly electric bill? Or how much they power co pays you. What would you say total cost you have into your solar array is? On 11/5/2014 12:36 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: [image: image]
Re: [AFMUG] Carnival Cruises enhances Wifi @ Sea
I was thinking it had to be the BATS system. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hybrid technology roams between long range shore based comms and SAT. I wonder who’s tech is behind this? http://www.marketwatch.com/story/carnival-corporation-unveils-cruise-industrys-first-hybrid-wireless-network-at-sea-2014-11-03 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber for tower (revisited)
I've heard you had to go custom cable assemblies with it, super expensive before you hit that part. EbAY HAS THEM FOR $1,099. *http://tinyurl.com/kozhqb6 http://tinyurl.com/kozhqb6* Regards, Chuck On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://bit.ly/1o5mG0V Start there and go forward a couple pictures. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:11:38 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fiber for tower (revisited) I ended up ordering a 50/125 MTP cable pre-terminated on one side with 12 LC connections and MTP on the other side. Then I purchased mtp to 12 LC adapters. I just decided forget it and went unarmored in conduit to a 1U rack mount junction/splice housing on one side and a splice/junction box outside. Then I come out of that with patch cables in flex conduit to each BH. It worked out perfect but you do not want to know what I paid. Are these mtp to 12 LC the 'squids' that you are talking about? On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone figured out what the squids cost that the mobile guys use? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:44:26 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fiber for tower (revisited) We are looking to run fiber for all of our licensed backhauls. I have seen Superior Essex armored fiber recommended before. I had a couple of questions. Do you usually just use two of the 12 fibers and run one cable to each backhaul? Do they make a version with just two pair? Is there a way for me to run the 12 into a box and then splice it out and run 6 backhauls over it? Would that be the recommended method? Then, on to terminationare most of you using the scoring tool and the field-installable ends that you squeeze to crimp? Are these recommended? Where is the best place to purchase these ends and tools? I have attached Mike's video of this process (which makes it look very simple btw) http://youtu.be/rKWLCVgkNtM
Re: [AFMUG] Does it exist ?
We have been deploying them. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Itelite Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Does it exist ? Dual Polarity, Dual Band (2.4 / 5 Ghz) sector antennas? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Does it exist ?
We've had good results so far. We are doing another site with them, then we plan to mass upgrade about 75 people across 3 sites. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck, Any comparison to other individual sectors? Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg via Af *Sent:* Monday, November 03, 2014 3:45 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Does it exist ? We have been deploying them. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Itelite Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr *From: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Reply-To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Date: *Monday, November 3, 2014 at 4:41 PM *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject: *[AFMUG] Does it exist ? Dual Polarity, Dual Band (2.4 / 5 Ghz) sector antennas? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork
Adobe is roughly $15/user/mth Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Or check out open esignforms for free :) http://open.esignforms.com/ On 10/29/2014 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I wonder how much the e-signing companies charge per document? VoIP Innovations and Lease Corp both use e-signing services and I like it. Makes it seem very professional, even though basically you are just clicking to sign. It’s nice to be able to use the link and go back later and see what you signed. Kind of like Dropbox for contracts. *From:* Ben Royer via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork Excellent feedback from everyone, I greatly appreciate it. The concept of the quick PDF is nice, as well as the Google Drive folders. Our agreement is only a couple pages, the install work order is a couple pages as well, but nothing to consuming for someone to read through and then have an email of it. Thanks again for the feedback. Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Supervisor Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:41 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork we normally get ours signed ahead of time We used to have a customer sign off form, but when they did get filled out they rarely made it back to the shop We are looking at options through powercode to get customer signatures, even if its just a tablet upload as a file. I dont know why people are so against getting their contracts signed ahead of time as part of the sign up for service, just have part of the terms void the contract if its an unsuccessful installation. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I remember an ATT U-Verse installer finishing the job and then wanting me to sign a 7 page agreement on his iPad. He stood there killing time for 154 minutes while I read the agreement. Apparently they count on people not reading what they sign. Also it seems like the time to get it signed was BEFORE he did the work. So my recommendation is to either keep your agreement to 1 page, or provide a copy to the customer ahead of time, or to read while the installer is working (this also gives the customer something to do other than nitpicking your install work). It's a waste of time to have your installer stand there while the customer reads a long agreement. -Original Message- From: Jason Pond via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Field Paperwork So the going paperless is way easier than you think. Buy a signature pad like a Topaz Sig Lite (usb) send with installer. Your contract is probably already in PDF form. Create Information boxes and add a signature field. This can be done with Acrobat reader I think. They save on the computer have installer download or e-mail them in at the end of the day. The installer can even e-mail a copy to the customer right there while they are still onsite. (two things good about that. You know you have the right e-mail address and the installer knows that the internet is working). If the customer wants a signed copy they can have one e-mailed to them at the end of the day after the installer gets back to the office. No matter what you do an in-vehicle printer will be problematic forever they were not designed for that environment. (cheaper in the long run to go paperless sooner than later)... Sincerely, Jason Pond On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Ben Royer via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Quick poll question... For those of you still using paper in the field for your technicians to have customers sign, do you use printers in the vehicles? If yes to that question, which printer do you recommend? We use a basic HP Deskjet scanner/copier/printer, so the client can sign the paperwork and then we can make a copy for them in the field. However, they are not very durable to the every day use of our field techs. I’ve even had them brought in because they are jammed and we find things like a mustard packet inside them. Now, the obvious go paperless argument is null at this point as we are putting a plan in place to get there someday, but until then, what would you all recommend for paperwork printing in the field? Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Supervisor Royell Communications, Inc. 217-965-3699 www.royell.net -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
Hey Sean, what distance do you get out of them? Size antennas? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: we just installed two SAF integra 2+0 links in 18Ghz. It's 2 radio pairs per link and they do their own link aggregation. you license two 60Mhz channels one V and one H. it's technically 948Mbps without compression (compression can get you the extra 52Mbps if you really want to split hairs) we love them and they are humming right along :-) On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best bargain? *Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band?
I'm not quite sure what you are getting at? What you are stating is part of the Code of Ethics (Article II). Are you stating that if WISPA were the regulator or that if WISPA could regulate the industry? Keep in mind, we have stepped up in interference issues where the FCC has failed to identify the source of interference. In fact, we identified the storage facility in Las Vegas that was interfering with their TDWR, a non-WISP using WISP equipment. We've stepped up to help in cases where the FCC has asked us to. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:14 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Im not faulting WISPA, theyre not a regulator. Im faulting the members of the industry and the industry itself. I really cant even fault UBNT, theyre delivering the requested product. If they were to add into their next production release something that forced everything to always be in compliance, it would probably be the least downloaded firmware in the history of the company. If WISPA weere to change their charter and membership agreement to reflect an obligation to comply, their budget from dues would cause rick harnish to live on spam and potatoes, and he might not get the spam. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Then you’re a better man than I am. I grant you one free pass to complain. I wonder if I can put a board at the bottom of the tower to display FCC stickers, kind of like the boards at road construction sites with all the posters various government agencies require to be displayed at the workplace? To be honest, I’m kind of scared of bricking a production radio, and might swap out the hardware anyway. It’s always a little scary updating a Ubiquiti radio to a FW release that changes the region locking rules, for fear of losing functionality and having no undo. Even if you’re not doing anything illegal. Better to try it on the ground and then swap the hardware. But I’d love to tell a grain elevator I’m having a guy climb their 165 ft leg during harvest while they are loading and unloading grain so he can disappear into the cloud from the grain dryer and put a sticker on a radio to satisfy government regulations. Of course they have their own OSHA stories to tell. *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band? every single one of the radios that got that have the stickers ken, whether they have half peeled off or not (i didnt bring alcohol swabs) I dont know, but they did all get the sticker. Im afraid of the FCC a judgement from them on a company our size could cause me to be unemployed. (also the luxury of it being less than 50 radios didnt hurt) On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hey, Ubiquiti sends us U-NII-1 stickers for our APs when we register and get the license key. Doesn’t that show they care? You do climb the tower and put those stickers on, don’t you? If not, who’s the problem now? *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:27 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band? we are a WISPA member last I knew. But yes, credibility with regulators. When you sit down and sya hey! FCC, we dont like these new requirements. Change them they giggle because they know the industry you represent isnt following the current guidelines, so catering to them really isnt top on their list of to dos. This industry has an attitude of if we arent getting caught, we arent doing it UBNt wont change anything because theyre called out, they have to be forced by the FCC or other regulating agencies to comply, historically speaking I men, in fantasy pants land (cool parachute fantasy pants with plenty of zippers) they might proactively comply, but in real world, theyll meh it because they saw what happenned to sales On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I think the credibility with regulators is greatly increasing. Shame on anyone on this list that is not a WISPA member. SHAME. ON. YOU. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:05:53 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band? Sub teeth perhaps for credibility with regulators, or similar. What “teeth” do you expect WISPA to have? *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 and 5.2 band? Non UBNT fanboys would agree that UBNT is the
Re: [AFMUG] Finally got it all finished
Nice job. I had a similar affair the week before WISPAPALOOZA. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We had a tower knocked down by a straight line wind last Monday. We got the new tower up Saturday, temporary equipment online Sunday and the final install Monday afternoon. I replaced 2 5GHz feeds, 3 120* 17dBi 802.11g/10MHz sectors and one 15dBi 802.11g/5MHz omni. Had about 16 customers on it, expected a lot more when we started. The area grew from a few to 20+ really quickly, then just stopped. The tower is only 75ft with a 20ft pole atop and sits on a rather tall ridge that is easily 200ft higher than the surrounding ground. I've had a few customers 14 miles out with a 19dBi panel and near perfect signal. We replaced the 802.11g equipment with an ARC 13dBi dual pol omni and RB711UA 2HnD since I had the RB on hand. Took a couple of days to find a clear channel and get 802.11n working properly, but we're now getting around 15Mbps over a 5MHz channel. I need to stress it more and see what it is really capable of. I had a few customers that signal was less than ideal, -77 to -85 depending on the time of day, humidity and temp. Now the few that were a bit unreliable are now working beautifully with the new dual polarity set up. We also replaced the 5GHz feeds that were installed in 2008 to Nanobridge M5 25dBi, nearly 100Mbps now in place of the 20Mbps I had previously. I do love the new UNII 1 channels. I'm going to sleep for a damn week.
Re: [AFMUG] Hose clamps? Really
I actually saw an install that had a 2' dish on a 6' pipe, hoseclamped at 4' and 2' and it was still holding 3 yrs later. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: oh yeah that makes it kosher...super strong if you add tape Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:10 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: we (not me) ha a couple of 2' Radiowaves hight performance antennas on a pipe held in place with hose clamps, but it was legit and safe because there were also zipties On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Cameron Crum via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Those are the special kind of hose clamps. Kind of like your arm holding down the mattress on top of the car while driving down the road. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6aG-IJ2SA Watch closely when AF5 attached to railing...crossed hose clamps. Guess they have no strong winds other that what I hear on the video. Chuck's mounts would work great here Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] On ATT building
The cost to leave them is nothing. :) I've seen multiple buildings with them. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Robert Bain via Af af@afmug.com wrote: The cost to remove them is to expense On Oct 20, 2014 6:52 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Wonder why they dont take them down? Not used any longer Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Custom fiber cable?
They are setup with ruggedized and weather proof connectors too...We actually got to see them at a UPS Logistics warehouse for Sprint...along with a lot of other things. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:18 AM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Got a fusion splicer so that would work way more pricey then I expected though — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So I found out through my Commscope friend that only supplies ATT (lush job), he told me that they are all custom built to order, the price is typically about $5-8/ft depending on size of the copper wire or depending on the amount of fiber. He told me that they don't usually sell it the way we would want it, unterminated, a big roll, etc. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's going to have to happen the other way around, radio manufacturers are going to have to start making APs with SFP cages and then you might start seeing lower cost options when it comes to hybrid cable. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Everything is pricy to begin with but after the demand is there price will go down just think of all the ways it would change the wisp industry No longer having to deal with cable interference on towers You can now link 450 radios 1000ft from farm house where you have line of sight It will allow manufactors to use fiber on AP's instead of Ethernet and get its power from the power wires It fixes soo many issues I really think this is a cable that needs to be made — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's certainly possible, you just might not like the price. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm sure you have all seen the coax cable exeed uses with the extra copper on outside of jacked for power.. Dose anyone one know is it's possible to order fiber with 2 copper wires on out side of jacket in its own jacket? — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] Custom fiber cable?
So I found out through my Commscope friend that only supplies ATT (lush job), he told me that they are all custom built to order, the price is typically about $5-8/ft depending on size of the copper wire or depending on the amount of fiber. He told me that they don't usually sell it the way we would want it, unterminated, a big roll, etc. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's going to have to happen the other way around, radio manufacturers are going to have to start making APs with SFP cages and then you might start seeing lower cost options when it comes to hybrid cable. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Everything is pricy to begin with but after the demand is there price will go down just think of all the ways it would change the wisp industry No longer having to deal with cable interference on towers You can now link 450 radios 1000ft from farm house where you have line of sight It will allow manufactors to use fiber on AP's instead of Ethernet and get its power from the power wires It fixes soo many issues I really think this is a cable that needs to be made — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It's certainly possible, you just might not like the price. On Saturday, October 18, 2014, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm sure you have all seen the coax cable exeed uses with the extra copper on outside of jacked for power.. Dose anyone one know is it's possible to order fiber with 2 copper wires on out side of jacket in its own jacket? — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
Re: [AFMUG] WTB: 200' Armored fiber - 12 strand (for towers)
Gotcha... Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Also, the Corning rack splice trays and tower boxes will accept six LC connectors (I know they make a 12 as well, but the tray in my rack will already accept another adapter later). This is me planning for future upgrades, as I am only installing one link on the fiber now. Plus, I am using field-installable crimp connectors and they are freaking expensive. I don't really want to terminate much more than that just for future expansion. I am running a fiber from our server room to the roof at the NOC and one at our main mountaintop site, which regularly takes strikes. We are installing a new 6GHz link between these sites and I don't really want to run them on Ethernet. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: For six backhauls. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Curious why you want 12 strand? Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote: It usually isn't a problem finding shorter lengths. The shortages I've noticed are mainly several thousand foot spools. On Friday, October 17, 2014, Adam Moffett via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I was told there's a shortage right now. I'm still looking for somebody to sell us 200' of fiber for a project that we are working on. It seems like nobody was using multimode last time we asked so we didn't get any takers. We have decided to just use singlemode instead since that seems to be what most are using. I really don't want to buy 3300 feet on a 14 week lead time to complete this backhaul project. So does anyone out there want to sell us 200' of good quality fiber for a tower project that we are working on?
Re: [AFMUG] Ditch Witch 410 SX
18-24 blades are typical for this machine, I have one and we have a 24 blade. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We use a case maxi sneaker with a 2ft chute blade to do fiber drops. Very nice machine. On Oct 15, 2014 6:53 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: With a 410 SX what blade is everyone using to do cat-5 and fiber drops?
Re: [AFMUG] Ditch Witch 410 SX
Most of them have chutes, some are just blades with a trailing eye. Don't get that kind, make sure you get the chute. The DW Dealer near you will know what to order. They are not that expensive, so buying from the dealer is ok. You should be paying $750 in my opinion. http://www.ditchwitch.com/parts-service/digging-systems/plow-blade Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, welded to the back of the blade as I recall. The larger blades has a chute that floats a bit independent from the blade but smaller blades have the chute built in I think. They all have chutes. -Original Message- From: Matt via Af Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ditch Witch 410 SX Does the blade have a cable chute? Do you have a link to the blade? On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: 18-24 blades are typical for this machine, I have one and we have a 24 blade. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We use a case maxi sneaker with a 2ft chute blade to do fiber drops. Very nice machine. On Oct 15, 2014 6:53 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: With a 410 SX what blade is everyone using to do cat-5 and fiber drops?
Re: [AFMUG] Pulling lots of cable through 2 conduit
Get a cable comb and tape them together as they leave it into the conduit. Keeps it nice and tight. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:39 PM, David via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We make our own chinese finger lock per cable and stagger each one in the pipe while using tape and ziptie to hold heads or body of cable against rope at tie off point. +1 wire lube if you have to go thru corners. HDPFE Conduit is what we use since last year. there are tricks of the trade for getting elbows and Ts to coexist with HDPFE though. Our last tower we did looks much better than the first. We can use the Clips and hangers to properly clip it to a cable tray or leg of a tower. On 10/09/2014 11:52 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af wrote: On 10/9/14, 9:48, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: How would you pull a bundle like that? What do you use to attach the cables together before pulling? Just electrical tape? Any other suggestions? If you must pull that many vs. a switch up top, a pulling sock (one of those Chinese finger trap looking things) and lots of wire lube. ~Seth
[AFMUG] Platypus Update and Event Scheduler Issues
All: I wish Platypus would have proactively emailed us about this...but I just called support and found out this. I've been pulling my hair out for some time after a Platypus update. It appears that the latest version released on 9/24 (literally the day after I upgraded last) has an issue with processing referrals. It causes the event status to get tagged as processing and never finishes. As a result, additional events never run because the status is stuck on processing. I can confirm the latest release fixes this issue. Regards, Chuck
Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet
I've yet to see this on outgoing. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, I’m just saying ISPs that provide 25M, 100M, 1000M connections to the home, especially symmetric ones, will need plans to deal with customers who are maxing out their upstream bandwidth with malicious traffic (probably without knowing it). Sure, you can stream 8K video of your cats to the world from your Google Fiber connection. But if it’s 1 Gbps of DDoS attack traffic, Google is going to have to detect it and stop it at the source. Now one residential customer has the same firepower that previously only an ISP or a server at a datacenter or a government researcher had access to. It’s like giving military surplus rocket launchers to local police, there is going to be misuse, even without bad intent. *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 05, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet Maybe, but those home routers are just as easily exploited and are hard-wired. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/05/2014 06:53 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Something I’m not sure ISPs have faced up to, is that home PCs are starting to have good enough Internet connections to be valuable as bots. Bad guys used to target those Linux servers partly because they were at datacenters with lots of upstream bandwidth. But you don’t need a lot of home PCs on Google Fiber to create a botnet capable of a formidable DDoS attack. The limiting factor might be home WiFi. *From:* Paul Stewart via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 05, 2014 9:38 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet Yeah probably not even 1% … Mac’s are no more immune than Linux is … speaking of, I’m amazed by how many linux admin’s don’t keep their systems patched. That number is hacked linux servers is way way higher than 1% I would be confident….. Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen via Af *Sent:* Sunday, October 05, 2014 10:07 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet Who said Macs were immune? 17k is hardly cause for panic. What is that, less than 1% affected? On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So much for the belief that Macs are immune to malware. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/reddit-powered-botnet-infected-thousands-of-macs-worldwide/
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
To be clear, we don't use something like an APC UPS. We do a battery array with a charge controller. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vince West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Kade, I can't speak on the fiber, because we have used a few different kinds over the builds we have done. My favorite has been bend insensitive fiber. It is small and can make the same turns the Ethernet and power can without risking a break. It is also really thin and makes for easier movement when securing the cable. In terms of the PacketFlux gear in the air, if the site is done properly and grounded, there shouldn't be any problems. I have only had to replace two of them since we started building our larger sites out like this. The list Gerard gave is missing two items I believe: breakers and fuses. More often than not, the fuses on the ground are the ones that go. We have one site where our box is 360ft on the tower. This site almost always suffers some kind of issue in major lightning storms. It trips a breaker at the base. The drive out is 20 minutes and worth while compared to having to climb the tower when the storm is over. We do not use UPSs anymore on the large deployments. The DC box stays on the ground because the power line going up the tower is either fused or has it's own DC breaker. We also have a site monitor at the base to monitor voltage levels on the batteries and we can graph the stats to troubleshoot in the future. Because we use a breaker or fuse in our DC system going from the top to the bottom, it would be a pain to still have to climb to replace a fuse if necessary. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do you guys find that the packetflux gear has a high survival rate up there? We have a site that needs converted to DC and recabled, and are considering this route. Our thinking is, why put the dc box at the bottom when we can just put the thing up at the top and run nothing down to the bottom except power. All our backhauls are half way up the tower, no reason to even have anything at the bottom except the UPS. What type of fiber are you guys using for attaching to the tower? We will need to run a fiber from 1 level to another on the tower to feed the backhauls to the APs, and are unsure which type fiber cable to look at. Should we use armored fiber and just ground the jacket to the tower on each end, or do we want fiber with no metal jacket so that it's not conductive? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Gerard Dupont III via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Our Top boxes usually contain the following. 1x Sitemonitor 2x GigabitSyncInjectors 1x Citel DS210-48DC 2x Traco TCL 060-124 DC Down Convertors - http://www.tracopower.com/products/tcl-dc.pdf 1x RB2011 2x APC PRM4 Surge Chasis 8x GigEAPC-HV Gerard On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We use this, and solder two legs together. We send 48v DC up to the top and downconvert. I think we've gone about 450' with this configuration (including up the tower and along the cable raceway to the inside of a building) However, that's primarily why we send 48v up and downconvert, because of the voltage loss. Gives very clean 24v power to the equipment. http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Portable-Power-Gauge-Conductor/dp/B0076ZT4C2 It would probably be better for me to take a picture of one of our boxes. We are continually building them as we continue our wireless upgrades. I don't remember if Gerard resub'd to this list after it moved, but he's the engineer behind the box. He can give you parts. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck, Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ? I can't seem to find what I need Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
Traco Charge Controller Power supply. TSP-BCM48 TSP 360–148 Regards, Chuck On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What are u using? Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: To be clear, we don't use something like an APC UPS. We do a battery array with a charge controller. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vince West via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Kade, I can't speak on the fiber, because we have used a few different kinds over the builds we have done. My favorite has been bend insensitive fiber. It is small and can make the same turns the Ethernet and power can without risking a break. It is also really thin and makes for easier movement when securing the cable. In terms of the PacketFlux gear in the air, if the site is done properly and grounded, there shouldn't be any problems. I have only had to replace two of them since we started building our larger sites out like this. The list Gerard gave is missing two items I believe: breakers and fuses. More often than not, the fuses on the ground are the ones that go. We have one site where our box is 360ft on the tower. This site almost always suffers some kind of issue in major lightning storms. It trips a breaker at the base. The drive out is 20 minutes and worth while compared to having to climb the tower when the storm is over. We do not use UPSs anymore on the large deployments. The DC box stays on the ground because the power line going up the tower is either fused or has it's own DC breaker. We also have a site monitor at the base to monitor voltage levels on the batteries and we can graph the stats to troubleshoot in the future. Because we use a breaker or fuse in our DC system going from the top to the bottom, it would be a pain to still have to climb to replace a fuse if necessary. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Do you guys find that the packetflux gear has a high survival rate up there? We have a site that needs converted to DC and recabled, and are considering this route. Our thinking is, why put the dc box at the bottom when we can just put the thing up at the top and run nothing down to the bottom except power. All our backhauls are half way up the tower, no reason to even have anything at the bottom except the UPS. What type of fiber are you guys using for attaching to the tower? We will need to run a fiber from 1 level to another on the tower to feed the backhauls to the APs, and are unsure which type fiber cable to look at. Should we use armored fiber and just ground the jacket to the tower on each end, or do we want fiber with no metal jacket so that it's not conductive? On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Gerard Dupont III via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Our Top boxes usually contain the following. 1x Sitemonitor 2x GigabitSyncInjectors 1x Citel DS210-48DC 2x Traco TCL 060-124 DC Down Convertors - http://www.tracopower.com/products/tcl-dc.pdf 1x RB2011 2x APC PRM4 Surge Chasis 8x GigEAPC-HV Gerard On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We use this, and solder two legs together. We send 48v DC up to the top and downconvert. I think we've gone about 450' with this configuration (including up the tower and along the cable raceway to the inside of a building) However, that's primarily why we send 48v up and downconvert, because of the voltage loss. Gives very clean 24v power to the equipment. http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Portable-Power-Gauge-Conductor/dp/B0076ZT4C2 It would probably be better for me to take a picture of one of our boxes. We are continually building them as we continue our wireless upgrades. I don't remember if Gerard resub'd to this list after it moved, but he's the engineer behind the box. He can give you parts. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck, Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ? I can't seem to find what I need Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined
Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase
Providing Health Insurance is a nice bonus though...especially if he is covering your whole family. My family insurance is friggin' expensive for a family of 4! Regards, Chuck On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:57 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: lol, hes not a dick, hes actually a pretty decent conservative capitalist christian. I started that conversation 4 months ago right after I turned down a much better paying job because of the commute. I got that job offer because I went to meet with a tech from another contract service provider who was taking over our contract, it turned out he wasnt a tech he was the owner of the company, apparently I clean up nice, when I went for the final closeout meeting it turned out to be an hour and a half interview. But afterward i started the whats the future direction of the company, what can I do in the company to give myself a financial and personal growth future in the company, conversation. I screwed up by divulging about half of my business plan if I was going to step out on my own, probably a bad idea. but I keep getting the well theres this and theres that and the i need to meet with x to discuss y and ill get back to you, the most I get out of him is we havent sold to Jab (which I dont want because theres no role for me if it happenned) and we arent closing the doors, and we might look at giving you a dollar and maybe some scheduled raises. I have two kids, a house, this broad that lives with me after making my babies a buck every 2.5 years isnt a great future. he had gotten insurance, which we did not have before, and initially I wrote that off as the equivalent as a raise, but the more I think about it, it was company wide, that isnt a retention thing, thats a business expense like the electric bill and bandwidth cost, and next year the contract expires and our coverage goes down, we get the option to buy back the difference.. no dental, I gave the tooth butcher 500 bucks yesterday that i had to borrow, cutting health isnt going to be made up for with 8 cents On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Unless your boss is a dick (apparently a real possibility), a good approach is to ask when your next review will be and what achievements or metrics would qualify you for a bigger raise or a promotion. You are setting him up. He says do X and you get a promotion and a raise, and you do X. Makes it hard to deny you the reward, since he set the rules for the game. He even gets the enjoyment of telling himself he motivated you to achieve the goals he set, like getting a rat to run a maze in order to get the cheese, when in fact you motivated him to give you a raise. *From:* That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase Yeah, Jab starts their phone techs at more than I make, but Im one of those people that wont quit. Im pretty critical, but my employer is one that will just let things fail and deal with the aftermath. Ive worked for the organization for 10 years and this company for 5. Ive missed one deadline, the first in my life, and that was when my dads family shop burned down and I had to take some time off to dig through the rubble. They wouldnt find a person to replace me directly, the routing/transit management would go to a 3rd party consultant/contractor, they would rely on Powercode directly to manage that and the associated hardware, They would contract our partner company to manage the infrastructure builds, he would move from the inexpensive UBNT type hardware on the backhaul network to licensed set and forget links, specced out by vendors installed by contractors. The backend systems like our DNS, internal messaging sytems, backup/archiving, etc would either fail or be redesigned by a consultant and maintained under a contract. The contract support side stuff like the windows server contracts he would pick up the slack on for a bit and hand off any excess to our current 3rd party consultant we use for big project assistance. All the extra stuff like surveillance/dvr systems would go to the techs limited by their capacity. Incidentals that pop up periodically like the FCC crap and ARIN interaction would all be handled by the respective agency we deal with support staff. Day to day maintenance would get neglected for the most part, then dealt with in disaster mode by the associated vendor support avenues. New product would be handles by the salesguys from the vendors. So realistically, I am very replaceable, with a pretty big upfront fee, but probably in the long run the recurring cost would be less and an inbound guy to fill my role would really only need to know which numbers to call. So it could even be hes realized this and 8 cents is meant to be an insult. In this industry in this economy, what kind of pay increases should a guy
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
We use this, and solder two legs together. We send 48v DC up to the top and downconvert. I think we've gone about 450' with this configuration (including up the tower and along the cable raceway to the inside of a building) However, that's primarily why we send 48v up and downconvert, because of the voltage loss. Gives very clean 24v power to the equipment. http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Portable-Power-Gauge-Conductor/dp/B0076ZT4C2 It would probably be better for me to take a picture of one of our boxes. We are continually building them as we continue our wireless upgrades. I don't remember if Gerard resub'd to this list after it moved, but he's the engineer behind the box. He can give you parts. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Chuck, Are you doing any 8-10 gauge runs exceeding 500' ? I can't seem to find what I need Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!!
Re: [AFMUG] Power up the tower?
I have requested pricing on this as well. I think that in the end, it was overly expensive (something like 4x the cost of doing 2 split runs, $4.10/ft or something like that). If we could get that even within 15% of what I'm paying now, I'd be happy. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1cad=rjauact=8ved=0CC0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.commscope.com%2FDocs%2FHELIAX_FFDirect_Brochure_BR-107083.pdfei=uhQoVLffMIWayQSu5YCoBAusg=AFQjCNFvqSzEDLibQ4WCTebhIbt3KgEQYQsig2=gR3vElbGdefgDpcYEtvB2Qbvm=bv.76247554,d.aWw I'm getting pricing on this - if it's anything remotely reasonable I'm really thinking about using this for tower sites. With 3 fiber feeds and 3 power feeds I can use one power/fiber pair to each of the SAF Integra's, and use the other one to go to a enclosure with power and a switch to connect to the APs'. I'm trying to find out if I can get a small switch and a PacketFlux Syncinjector stuffed into a 3M Tower Dome Closure: http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=6UgxGCuNyXTtoxMVlxMVEVtQEcuZgVs6EVs6E66--fn=Tower_Dome_Terminal_TDT_T_25_6RS The combination seems like it would solve a lot of problems. It gives us one cable up the tower and the cable fits properly into standard tower hangers. The dome closure can be built on the ground with appropriate length cables to each AP so that the whole thing can be assembled on the ground and then hoisted into place so that the tower monkeys only have to plug things in. The other nice part is if you are using contract tower crews the whole thing looks just like installing a standard Remote Radio Unit (RRU) radio head, so they should both not need a lot of retraining. If we could get our radio manufacturers to start making equipment with SFP's this would be even easier.That's a hint there Cambium. Mark On 9/28/14, 9:50 AM, Chuck Hogg via Af wrote: We do power and fiber up the tower as our standard...ever since that standard has been used, I don't think we've lost a site yet. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This is what we have used for all our CMM units for years. http://www.outdoorspeakerdepot.com/14ga2inspca5.html Outdoor, UV resistant, etc. On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Planning on hanging a DC box on the tower 30-40w total power Cat5 using multiple pairs or 2 conductor cable? We are inclined on cat 5 for standardization purposes... Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] Nanobridge 5M-25
Streakwave is showing 127 in stock. Stock BreakUp for NanoBridge M Series, 5GHz 25dBi dual pol*Location**Stock*California Warehouse93Utah Warehouse34*Total Stock**127* Regards, Chuck On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We just got 5 in from http://www.ispsupplies.com/ not sure how we got in bed with them There is also the stock locator tool from UBNT On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Anybody getting them back in stock? Amazon is up to $140 is a good indication of available stock. Rory -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] cat5
We installed something close to 80k' of Toughcable and have probably installed somwhere close to 100k' of Toughcable since the 2nd generation of cable. I haven't had any issues with it since it was fixed. We have tried other cable from different manufacturers, ARC, Shireen, Apex9, etc. Nothing wrong with any of it, just keep finding myself still ordering the Toughcable for both towers and installs. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: the box design for the new stuff is totally different than the old stuff... I only buy it from distributors that move a good quantity through and got rid of all their old stuff a year or more ago. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Kade Sullivan via Af af@afmug.com wrote: If you go toughcable, make SURE the boxes havnt been sitting around for a while. The last batch we bought to replace the bad batch ended up being another bad batch. So we ended up replacing crap with crap and now have to replace it all again. Evidently the boxes had sat in a warehouse forever or something. It's all turning green already and water is seeping into the cables. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I have had zero problems with the ubnt toughcable carrier ($180/box). They had their hands burned so thoroughly (presumably by a third party manufacturer in China) by the UV/cracking issue with the first generation toughcable, it's been resolved in everything shipping in the last 18 months. Monoprice sells packs of 100 shielded RJ45 male for around ten bucks, they're good quality. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Robbie Wright via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We use this stuff at all of our non-tower installs. Never has a single box of it fail and have been using it for about 4 years in the field now. Arguably don't need shielded for resi stuff, but we use cable clips to attach cable to everything and this cable is a 1/4 of an inch thick which fits the coax clips perfectly. Plus gives us flexibility with grounding. Works great for us. They also make a white UV rated cable, albeit not shielded or with a ground wire. http://www.cabling-supplies.com/cat5e-350mhz-shielded-direct-burial-outdoor-cable-black.html Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband http://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Rex-List Account via Af af@afmug.com wrote: And while we are at it, how about RJ45 ends, also. *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+xorex63list=gmail@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rex-List Account via Af *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] cat5 I am looking for a new source of cat5 cable. Who has the best price on quality cable? I stress that I am not looking for cheap. I want something that lasts. Install it once and forget about it. Thanks, Rex
Re: [AFMUG] FW: wispa.org down? - American Tower Contact
Patrick: I recommend you hitting up DJ at my shop, he hosts the WISPA domain/listserv and the website is also hosted in my facility. d...@shelbybb.com Regards, Chuck On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wheeland via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi Rick, Thanks for following up with the info. For some reason my DNS servers still won't resolve wispa.org. I haven't had time to dig too much into it though. -Patrick On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Rick Harnish via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi all, Here is the follow-up information for American Tower. *Join us at WISPAPALOOZA 2014 in Las Vegas, Oct. 11th – 18th http://www.wispapalooza.net/* Respectfully, *Rick Harnish* Executive Director WISPA 260-622-5699 Cell 866-317-2851 Ext. 101 WISPA Office 260-622-5774 Direct Line Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Rick and Trina) *From:* Josephine Smart [mailto:josephine.hu...@americantower.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:23 AM *To:* Rick Harnish *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] wispa.org down? Hi Rick, Jeff Deal is the new American Tower contact. I’ve provided his contact below. Jeffrey A. Deal *American Tower Corporation* 602.284.7443 Cell jeffrey.d...@americantower.com *Josephine (Huang) Smart* *Marketing Specialist* *American Tower Corporation* 10 Presidential Way Woburn, MA 01801 781-926-4790 Office josephine.sm...@americantower.com *Find, Apply and Track Online with ON AIR Access http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/solutions/on-air-access/index.htm.* *From:* Rick Harnish [mailto:ri...@wispa.org ri...@wispa.org] *Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 3:25 PM *To:* Josephine Smart *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] wispa.org down? Josephine, Who is the contact I should provide for this request given that Beth is no longer with the company? *Join us at WISPAPALOOZA 2014 in Las Vegas, Oct. 11th – 18th http://www.wispapalooza.net/* Respectfully, *Rick Harnish* Executive Director WISPA 260-622-5699 Cell 866-317-2851 Ext. 101 WISPA Office 260-622-5774 Direct Line Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Rick and Trina) *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+rickh=wispa@afmug.com af-bounces+rickh=wispa@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Wheeland via Af *Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 12:44 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] wispa.org down? I was trying to look up the American Tower WISPA contact but can't pull up wispa.org. My DNS servers won't resolve the name. If I use google's DNS, I get the IP but if I put that in my browser I get a TurnKey LAMP page. Is anyone else having trouble pulling up wispa.org? -Patrick
