Stus-List Re: Winch Sealant suggestions

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks for the great advice folks… Butyl tape (and nothing else) it is!
Dean

BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax NS

> On Apr 10, 2024, at 8:13 PM, Jeffrey A. Laman  wrote:
> 
> Butyl is by far the best option. Removal of winch in future will be far 
> easier. Butyl is an excellent sealant. There is no reason to overdo the 
> sealing here anyway. Leaks drip down to bilge without adversely affecting 
> anything.
> 
> Jeff Laman 
> 1981 C Harmony 
> Ludington, Mich
> 
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> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 5:42:22 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Dean McNeill 
> Subject: Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions
>  
> I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary 
> winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve 
> removed the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates 
> (probably overkill) and I'm ready to go. 
> 
> Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch 
> base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything 
> other than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.
> 
> Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core 
> at all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but 
> I never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should 
> I use 4200? Or something else?
> 
> What says the C brain trust?
> 
> Thanks, Dean
> 
> BarraWind
> 1980 C 34
> Halifax NS
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Stus-List Winch Sealant suggestions

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I mentioned a while back I was planning on replacing my old Barient primary 
winches…. well I’ve got a pair of new Harken 46 ST’s ready to go. I’ve removed 
the old winches, sealed the old holes, have starboard backing plates (probably 
overkill) and I'm ready to go. 

Wondering what you folks suggest for sealing under new winches, between winch 
base and fibreglass of cockpit? Old winches didn’t seem to have anything other 
than a bit of Butyl Tape around and in the bolt holes.

Should I just do the same (appears to be solid fibreglass with no wood core at 
all under the winches). I’ve thought of putting some 5200 under bases, but I 
never like using that under something I may need to remove someday! Should I 
use 4200? Or something else?

What says the C brain trust?

Thanks, Dean

BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax NS
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Stus-List Re: Hints on swapping winches?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks everyone, some great hints and suggestions here. 

I’m a little less worried about the switch after reading all these comments. 
I’ll be sure to let you all know how it works out!

Cheers, Dean

Barrawind
1980 C 34
Halifax, NS
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Stus-List Hints on swapping winches?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I'm about to finally replace my old 2 speed Barient 25 primary winches on my 
C 34, with Harken 46 Self tailing winches. 
Anyone have experience doing a similar swap? I fully expect I’ll need to fill 
old holes and drill new ones. And probably glass in aluminum or plywood backing 
plates.

Any other hints and tips?

Thanks, Dean
BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax, NS 

 
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Stus-List Re: C Rugby Shirt

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Just got my Rugby shirt… LOVE IT! 

Super great quality. Thanks JFK, Very impressed.

Dean

C 34
Halifax, NS

> On Feb 29, 2024, at 1:16 PM, Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> What Jeff said :-)
> 
> JKC 
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> 
>> On Feb 29, 2024, at 8:58 AM, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  There is a fit chart on the website when you goto shop
>> Cheers,
>>   Jeff Nelson. 
 
 Shop
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Stus-List Re: Parting out a C 41 in Dartmouth Nova Scotia

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Those would be great JKC! I’d certainly be interested in a few.

Dean

> On Jan 4, 2024, at 9:14 PM, Rod via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I stay away from just slapping the C logo on anything.  I’m trying to 
> reproduce actual C promotional items
> 
> Here is the Rugby shirts I plan to reproduce
> 
> https://www.ghcarchives.com/the-chandlery?store-page=C%26C-Rugby-Shirt-p446047026
> 
> JohnKelly Cuthbertson 
> 
> www.ghcarchives.com
> www.candcyachts.com
> Motion Designs Limited
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Stus-List Re: Fundraising time

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Stu,

Please accept my sympathies for your loss. A donation has been sent.

Thank you for everything you do for us C’ers.

Dean
C
Halifax NS

> On 10/26/2023 3:20 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
>> As it has happened in the past, I asked our many subscribers to help a 
>> little bit paying the bills.  The bills keep coming but I don’t get much 
>> assistance from the Government.
>>  
>> This year is really going to be hard on me – Gladys, my long time partner of 
>> 28 years, passed away on Monday, October 23.  Unfortunately some of the 
>> medical and funeral expenses will not be covered.  I am not looking for 
>> handouts but just a little bit of assistance.
>>  
>> Gladys will always be remembered for providing several hundred C Owners 
>> with custom made burgees.  May she rest in peace.
>>  
>> Stu
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Rick,

Technically Navionics will “work" on a Mac laptop but only through a web 
browser which means it has to be connected to internet all the time. And they 
don’t allow downloading of the charts offline to the Laptop (only a mobile 
device). So looks like my only real option is to spring for a tablet and 
download the maps to it.

Dean
C 34
Halifax, Nova Scotia

> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:18 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Andrew that my IPad is almost indispensable when on the boat, 
> even though it is only an IPad Air that is several years old. I often use it 
> to figure out how far it is to a waypoint or a port, to determine a course 
> that I can set up on the chart plotter at the helm for whomever is at the 
> wheel or changing the autopilot, or to get information for a log entry while 
> I am at the nav station.
>  
> And I use my Dell laptop to run the Active Captain Community while on the 
> boat. The laptop connects to  Internet by the mobile hotspot on my phone. The 
> address for my Windows PC is https://activecaptain.garmin.com/en-US/. I put 
> the laptop into airplane mode to turn off my home network, and could not get 
> to the charts, but with the phone hotspot turned on it works just fine.
>  
> I find it hard to think that Garmin would offer Navionics or Active Captain 
> for IPhone or IPad, but not a version that will work with a Mac and Safari. 
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
> -Original Message-
> From: Stus-List 
> Sent: Oct 22, 2023 1:47 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: Andrew Burton 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?
> 
>  
> Dean, I have to admit that I find my iPads almost indispensable. I recommend 
> getting one. Make sure you get a cellular capable one—you don’t have to 
> activate the cell service but you need to be cellular capable in order to get 
> the GPS. 
> Andy
>  
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
>  
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>  
>  
> 
> On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:23, Dean McNeill via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys, I checked out both Active Captain and Aquamaps and they only run 
> on iPhone or iPad. Really hoping to find something that works on a Mac 
> laptop. Have found both OpenCPN and MacENC64 but nautical maps of NovaScotia 
> Canada are either unavailable or crazy expensive.
>  
> Perhaps I have to break down and buy an iPad and use either Navionics, 
> ActiveCaptian or AquaMaps.
>  
> Dean  
>  
> BarraWind
> C
> Halifax, Nova Scotia
>  
>  
> On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> I love my Aquamap 
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  
>  
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:51 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Andrew Burton  <mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?
>  
> I've become a fan of Aquamap, which has Active Captain and Waterway Guide 
> info integrated with the charts, which themselves are very good.
> Andy
> Masquerade (Baltic 47)
>  
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> You might look into downloading Active Captain to your Mac, so long as the 
> Mac has the ability to determine your position by some sort of connections to 
> a GPS.
> 
> I run the Active Captain Community app on my old IPad that is with me during 
> deliveries, and also have it on my Dell laptop. (when on a boat the laptop 
> gets position info through a link to my android phone)  
> 
> I have a Garmin chart plotter on Imzadi and have downloaded the Garmin G2 
> charts (which is a personal preference because they use the same color 
> patterns and symbols as NOAA charts) to both of my other devices. It all 
> works off-line; I can download new areas of the charts I have to the IPad if 
> I will be in an area that is not already saved there because of somewhat 
> limited memory on the IPad. The laptop has access to the entire North 
> American chart set that came with my last chart plotter update.
> 
> Garmin also owns Navionics, IIRC, and I seem to recall the choice of 
> Navionics or Blue Chart charts is an option for the newer Garmin Chart 
> plotters. You might call them and see if since you have the Navionics app and 
> charts on your phone you can share it to

Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks guys, I checked out both Active Captain and Aquamaps and they only run 
on iPhone or iPad. Really hoping to find something that works on a Mac laptop. 
Have found both OpenCPN and MacENC64 but nautical maps of NovaScotia Canada are 
either unavailable or crazy expensive.

Perhaps I have to break down and buy an iPad and use either Navionics, 
ActiveCaptian or AquaMaps.

Dean  

BarraWind
C
Halifax, Nova Scotia


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love my Aquamap 
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
>  
>  
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:51 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Andrew Burton  <mailto:a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Mac Navigation options?
>  
> I've become a fan of Aquamap, which has Active Captain and Waterway Guide 
> info integrated with the charts, which themselves are very good.
> Andy
> Masquerade (Baltic 47)
>  
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> phone  +401 965 5260
>  
>  
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 7:37 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> You might look into downloading Active Captain to your Mac, so long as the 
>> Mac has the ability to determine your position by some sort of connections 
>> to a GPS.
>> 
>> I run the Active Captain Community app on my old IPad that is with me during 
>> deliveries, and also have it on my Dell laptop. (when on a boat the laptop 
>> gets position info through a link to my android phone)  
>> 
>> I have a Garmin chart plotter on Imzadi and have downloaded the Garmin G2 
>> charts (which is a personal preference because they use the same color 
>> patterns and symbols as NOAA charts) to both of my other devices. It all 
>> works off-line; I can download new areas of the charts I have to the IPad if 
>> I will be in an area that is not already saved there because of somewhat 
>> limited memory on the IPad. The laptop has access to the entire North 
>> American chart set that came with my last chart plotter update.
>> 
>> Garmin also owns Navionics, IIRC, and I seem to recall the choice of 
>> Navionics or Blue Chart charts is an option for the newer Garmin Chart 
>> plotters. You might call them and see if since you have the Navionics app 
>> and charts on your phone you can share it to the Active Captain Community 
>> app on your Mac.
>> 
>> Rick Brass
>> Washington, NC
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 7:42 PM
>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: Dean McNeill mailto:d...@deanmc.ca>>
>> Subject: Stus-List Mac Navigation options?
>> 
>> I have an on-deck ChartPlotter at the helm and while I’m a fan of Navionics 
>> on an iPhone… it’s so small! 
>> 
>> I don’t have an iPad or tablet but I do have a great Mac laptop I don’t use 
>> — it would make a great on-board navigation station. What software and 
>> charts are good? Navionics on a laptop runs through the web so that’s not a 
>> viable option. I saw OpenCPN but I can’t seem to find any raster or vector 
>> charts for Eastern Canada. 
>> 
>> Anybody running anything good?
>> 
>> Thanks, Dean
>> 
>> —
>> BarraWind
>> 1980 C 34
>> Halifax NS
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Stus-List Mac Navigation options?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I have an on-deck ChartPlotter at the helm and while I’m a fan of Navionics on 
an iPhone… it’s so small! 

I don’t have an iPad or tablet but I do have a great Mac laptop I don’t use — 
it would make a great on-board navigation station. What software and charts are 
good? Navionics on a laptop runs through the web so that’s not a viable option. 
I saw OpenCPN but I can’t seem to find any raster or vector charts for Eastern 
Canada. 

Anybody running anything good?

Thanks, Dean
  
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1980 C 34
Halifax NS
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Stus-List Re: Water in mast step

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks all… some great ideas!
Dean

> On Jul 2, 2023, at 9:58 PM, John Read via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> On my 34 while the mast was out I drilled 2 small holes in the aft “wall” and 
> forced in 2 small plastic tubes so the water dripped into the bilge.  Also 
> drilled a small hole in the bottom aft of the mast so the water could easily 
> get into the box.  I clean each tube with grass trimmer line as part of 
> annual maintenance.  Works well.
>  
> John Read
> Legacy III
> 1982 C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2023 4:54 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Water in mast step
>  
> On the 1989 34R, the maststep is a deep welded aluminum box with wooden 
> spacer blocks in front and behind.  The box originally had one 1/2" drain 
> hole but the wooden blocks always looked wet.  I added two 3/8" drain holes 
> and also scallopped the bottoms of the wooden blocks so they left a path for 
> water to find those holes.  
>   
> Chuck S 
>   
>   
>> On 07/02/2023 2:57 PM EDT cenelson--- via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: 
>>   
>>   
>>   
>> My 1995 C 36 XL/kcb had a hole as well--I found it as I was cleaning out 
>> the mast step to drill a hole! 
>>   
>> Charlie Nelson 
>> Water Phantom 
>>   
>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023, 02:27:26 PM EDT, Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: 
>>   
>>   
>> My 1978 C 34 had a small hole drilled in it, presumably for that purpose.  
>> Never had a problem.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2023 1:30 PM
>> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: Dean McNeill mailto:d...@deanmc.ca>>
>> Subject: Stus-List Water in mast step
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a 1980 C 34. Keel stepped mast step gets water (from mast) and I’m 
>> wondering if it’s okay / advisable to drill a small hole in the metal step 
>> so the the water will drain into the bilge?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dean
>> 
>> BarraWind
>> 
>> C, Halifax NS 
>> 
>> _
>> 
>> From Dean’s mobile 
>> 902 489 8556
>> 
>>  
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Stus-List Water in mast step

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I have a 1980 C 34. Keel stepped mast step gets water (from mast) and I’m 
wondering if it’s okay / advisable to drill a small hole in the metal step so 
the the water will drain into the bilge?

Dean
BarraWind
C, Halifax NS 

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Stus-List Re: Finally we have launched for the season!

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Beautiful Mike! Will keep an eye out for you in the harbour!
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Dean
BarraWind
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Stus-List Re: Replacing cabin windows

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I got a quote from "Fix Leaky Boats” on replacing windows and frames (fixed / 
non-opening) on my 1980 34' two years ago and it was about $2,000 Canadian. I 
didn’t proceed but that might give you an idea of pricing. I’ve heard great 
things about their products.

Dean

> On Feb 9, 2023, at 11:46 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Joel, 
> "Fixleakyboats.com" looks interesting.  Any idea what they cost? 
> Their website doesn't seem to be working.  It wouldn't allow me to fill out 
> their form.
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer
>> On 02/09/2023 10:15 AM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> also www.fixleakyboats.com  
>> does windows and frames
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 9:12 AM Jeff Nelson via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: 
>> Of course no sooner sent off but I found the one I was thinking of: 
>> https://www.thecoastalpassage.com/windows.html 
>> Cheers,
>>   Jeff Nelson
>>   Muir Caileag
>>   C 30 - 549
>>   Armdale Y.C.
>> On 2023-02-09 10:02, Jeff Nelson via CnC-List wrote: 
>>> Here is a link from my archivesI thought I had a more descriptive one 
>>> with pictures, but can't find it: 
>>> Sail article: 
>>> https://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/replacing-fixed-portlights 
>>> link for VHB tape: 
>>> https://nhsmedia.com/vhbtape.htm 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>>   Jeff Nelson
>>>   Muir Caileag
>>>   C 30 - 549
>>>   Armdale Y.C.
>>> On 2023-02-09 06:00, StrightR--- via CnC-List wrote: 
 A couple of years ago there was an excellent thread on replacing cabin 
 windows using acrylic, 3M ultra high bond tape and black silicone sealant. 
  Anyone happen to have a copy of that?
 
  
 
 Thanks
 
 Rod
 
 
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>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
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Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Such sad news. 

I too have benefitted from Robs excellent design skills and his thoughtful and 
generous advice. 

Rest In Peace sir.

Dean
C 34
Halifax, NS


> On Sep 10, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fair Winds and Following Seas Rob. 
> We are better as a sailing community and world because of your legacy. 
> 
> Tom
> Therapy 
> 29 Mk 2 
> Solomons MD 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:10 AM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
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Stus-List Re: Bimini or dodger extender suggestions

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Love to see some pics Mike!
Dean

> On Sep 2, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dean
>  
> Persistence is also in Halifax and has a dodger and a bimini.  There is a 
> separate piece of sunbrella that zips between the two for full coverage on 
> rainy days.  The bimini deployed by itself is great shade
>  
> The dodger and bimini are currently not on the boat but I can send some 
> pictures if you would like
>  
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
>  
>  
> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> 
> Sent: September 1, 2022 10:00 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Dean McNeill mailto:d...@deanmc.ca>>
> Subject: Stus-List Bimini or dodger extender suggestions
>  
> Anyone have a nice bimini or dodger extension set up for a C 34 (1980 
> vintage) or similar boat, that they like, and would share pictures? 
> 
> I have a nice dodger, but thinking of adding something extra for those very 
> sunny days… not looking to break the bank, just wondering what options people 
> like. Bonus points for something that can work with mainsail up and underway!
> 
> Dean Mc
> BarraWind
> C 34
> Halifax, NS
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[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Anyone have a nice bimini or dodger extension set up for a C 34 (1980 
vintage) or similar boat, that they like, and would share pictures? 

I have a nice dodger, but thinking of adding something extra for those very 
sunny days… not looking to break the bank, just wondering what options people 
like. Bonus points for something that can work with mainsail up and underway!

Dean Mc
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, NS
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Stus-List Re: C 34 Winch replacement

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Thanks Rick! 

Very helpful information…. I’ll certainly look into that self-tailing 
conversion kit paired to the 28’s…. Good idea.

Dean

> On Jul 29, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Dean,
>  
> There is a Barient Winch catalog available on the L-26 website at Barient 
> Catalog (l-36.com) <https://l-36.com/barient_catalog.php>. You might want to 
> save a copy for future reference.
>  
> Most of the winch equivalency charts I’ve bookmarked over the past 30 years 
> are no longer active on the web, But the information in the Barient catalog 
> gives some useful information. BTW, L-36 also has a Barient equivalent chart, 
> but it only goes as high as the 22 standard winch, but not the 25, 27, 28, 
> 32’s that are common on the bigger C
>  
> For a 34’ boat with approximate sail area of 470 sq ft, the catalog 
> recommends a Barient 25 genoa sheet winch for cruisers, or a 27 for racers. 
> As someone else has mentioned, the Barient winches used a different numbering 
> system than is presently common. The current system is to use the power ratio 
> of the winch in the lowest gear as a model number. So a Lewmar 42 2-speed 
> winch has a power ration of about 42:1 in low gear.
>  
> IIRC, that is calculated using a 10” winch handle. (The longer the handle, 
> the more mechanical advantage you have. The average person can put about 50 
> pounds of effort on the winch handle when cranking. With a 10” handle, you 
> get (10”- ½ the drum diameter) X 50 = inch pounds of torque to power the 
> winch.  An 8” winch handle – which I need to use because of obstructions near 
> the primary winches – result in about 30% less input power.) 
>  
> According to the Barient catalog on L-36, the 25 has a power ratio of 44:1 
> with a 10 inch handle. So replacement winches in the new current system would 
> be in the 44 range. The Power ratio of the 27 (recommended for racers) is 
> 46:1, so that would be an appropriate size range if you are looking for 
> easier tailing, or are using an 8” winch handle.
>  
> BTW, the Barient catalog has a spec listed that they called the “Power 
> Advantage Rating”. It is pretty much a measure of how many pounds of tension 
> that the winch can put on the sheet when in low gear when cranked by an 
> average person. For the 25, it is about 2300 pounds. The 27 is 2900. The 28 
> is 3450 even  though the power ratio is lower than for the 27. And the 32 is 
> 3950 pounds.
>  
> For what it is worth, if you upgrade to the 28 winches mentioned by a couple 
> of the others, a company called Winchmate offers a kit for conversion of the 
> standard winch to self-tailing. Cost is about $500 per kit,  so for about 
> $1000 plus the cost of the 28 standard winches you can upgrade quite a bit. 
> Probably for less than a pair of new self-tailing winches is going to cost. 
> That is what I plan to do with the 28s and 32s on my 38.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47
> la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225
> Washington, NC
>  
>  
>  
> From: Dean McNeill via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 11:51 PM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Dean McNeill mailto:d...@deanmc.ca>>
> Subject: Stus-List C 34 Winch replacement
>  
> Looking to replace the original Barient 25 double speed primary winches on my 
> 1980 C 34 over the off season with similar sized self-tailing ones. Anyone 
> with a similar boat find a good replacement with same or similar mounting 
> holes that would save me some work? Really interested in what others have 
> done and recommend.
>  
> Thanks, Dean
>  
> C 34
> BarraWind
> Halifax, NS, Canada



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Stus-List C 34 Winch replacement

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Looking to replace the original Barient 25 double speed primary winches on my 
1980 C 34 over the off season with similar sized self-tailing ones. Anyone 
with a similar boat find a good replacement with same or similar mounting holes 
that would save me some work? Really interested in what others have done and 
recommend.

Thanks, Dean

C 34
BarraWind
Halifax, NS, Canada



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Stus-List Re: Genoa sheets

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Outside

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> On Jul 9, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Paul Florin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On a 35ft C MK II with a 110% genoa, sheets inside or outside shrouds?
> 
> -- Paul Florin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Batteries again

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Have used the Shakespeare solder-less connectors in the past, on previous 
boats, and they do work well.

Dean
C 34
Halifax NS



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Stus-List Re: Mast head antenna cable

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I've used the gold Shakespeare solder-less coax connectors, on a few boats, as 
well and have had no issues.
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Dean
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, NS

Stus-List Re: Winch replacement

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Nope, Barient 25… took a picture of them yesterday. Maybe I should jump up a 
bit in size?
Dean


> On Mar 28, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Kevin & Renee Hartig via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s weird, my C 34 has Barient 27’s. Is that what you meant?
> 
> Ben
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Probably asked a lot before, but anyone know what winch would be a good 
>> replacement for Barient 25? I’m wanting to upgrade the primaries on my C 
>> 34 which has the original 2 speed (but not self-tailing) winches.
>> 
>> I’m in Canada (nova Scotia) if that matters (in terms of where to order),  
>> but will be making driving journey into South Carolina & Georgia in about a 
>> week.
>> 
>> Thanks, Dean
>> 
>> 1980 C 34
> 



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Stus-List Winch replacement

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Probably asked a lot before, but anyone know what winch would be a good 
replacement for Barient 25? I’m wanting to upgrade the primaries on my C 34 
which has the original 2 speed (but not self-tailing) winches.

I’m in Canada (nova Scotia) if that matters (in terms of where to order),  but 
will be making driving journey into South Carolina & Georgia in about a week.

Thanks, Dean

1980 C 34

Stus-List Re: Abnormal list things

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Everything normal here… low volume of emails and most end up in my Junk mail, 
but I now know to check there often!

Dean McNeill
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, NS

Stus-List Re: 25 MKII - Smiling?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

While I’m a new owner, I’ve now witnessed two launches and two haul-outs… each 
involving a 500 yard run up a bumpy hill hanging/swaying in a sling (not for 
the faint of heart) and my keel doesn’t move relative to the boat (1980 C 34) 
at all. 

It did have the familiar C smile when I bought it, but with the kind 
direction of this group, a cautionary torquing of the keel bolts, and some 
G-Flex applied pre-launch last season—that appears to be remedied for now.

Not to be alarmist, but I’d be concerned about any movement of keel relative to 
the boat and would want to have it checked out by a marine surveyor while it’s 
out of the water.

Dean
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax NS  
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Stus-List Re: Seasons' Greetings

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Back at you Stu and Glady’s. Wishing you and everyone on this valuable list a 
Happy and Joy-filled Christmas and a wonderful New Year.

Cheers, Dean
BarraWind
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Stus-List Re: Bottom Paints Again

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

First full season for me with my C 34 and I used Interlux Micron CSC, as 
that’s what the previous owner ’thought’ was on it when I bought it. A good 
friend has also used it on his Tartan 3700 for years with good results.

I used 2 to 3 coats after a light sanding of the previous coat(s) and it has 
worked very well. Five months moored in the Northwest Arm in Halifax NS and it 
was surprisingly super clean when it came out at end of season… a little green 
scum in places but that’s it! Stainless prop shaft was caked with barnacles and 
growth, so I’m guessing bottom paint worked great where it was applied!

Does anyone  coat their stainless prop shaft (or brass folding prop) with 
bottom paint?

Dean


> On Oct 25, 2021, at 9:17 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill- Can you clarify what you used?  I looked at the Pettit site and 
> there was nothing called Odyssey Trinidad.  There was an Odyssey Triton?   
> Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this subject is as old as boats, but I think I commented in the 
>> spring that I was trying a brand new paint and would report in the fall, so 
>> here it is.  It is raining and chilly and not much else going on in the NE, 
>> so . ..
>>  
>> The paint is Pettit Odyssey Trinidad, and when I hauled a week ago the 
>> results were nothing less than amazing. All of the clubs haul out guys (and 
>> girl) were in awe, and said it was the cleanest boat the have hauled this 
>> year.
>>  
>> There was some scum from the bow back amidships and going down a few inches, 
>> mostly on the north side, oddly enough.  But the rest was amazingly clean. 
>> Of note, here in the Great Lakes over the last 10 years or so there has been 
>> some new growth that no one seems to know anything about, looks like a 
>> spider web growing all over the bottom, and there was NONE of that. No Zebra 
>> Mussels, nothing.
>> It is called ablative, but it is nowhere near as ablative as the previous 
>> year’s paint, very little came off with the pressure washer. Also, it called 
>> for two initial coats, I only used one. It goes on nice, and what I liked is 
>> that there is no heavy copper falling out, you don’t seem to need to keep 
>> stirring it as you go. In fact, I don’t think it has copper as we know it, 
>> Three Ingredients, Copper Thiocyanate, Econea, and Zinc Pyrithione.   I 
>> wouldn’t consider it a racing paint, but after a month, I might. One of the 
>> guys hauled his First 40 out and cleaned it (VC17) for the last race two 
>> weeks before his final haulout, and his bottom was a mess, complete with 
>> ‘spiderwebs’ and Zebra Mussels. He was amazed to see how much scum was back 
>> on 2 weeks later.
>>  
>> I think it’s the Zinc . .  . .Also, a $30 rebate going on.
>>  
>> Bill Coleman
>> Entrada, Erie, PA
>>  
>>  
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Stus-List Re: Electric Bilge Pump

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Auto bilge pumps usually have 3 wires. A ground and then one positive to use if 
you want it to be auto or one positive to connect if you want it to be manual. 
You pick what function you want and wire it that way. My guess is you wired it 
for auto by mistake? I’ve done that!

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> On Oct 17, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My electric bilge pump has 3 settings, Auto (with a float to activate), Off, 
> and Manual.  I turned on the Manual setting and the pump didn't come on.   It 
> does work in the Auto settingif I fill the bilge to lift the float or 
> raise it by hand, the pump works.
> 
> Since and I am no electrician, any ideas where to look for the problem?
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List Re: Mast in and out

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Where I store my C 34 boat for the winter in Chester, Nova Scotia, they 
charge me $150 for going mast in or out. They also do a fine job of attaching 
all the rig, stays, shrouds and fuller as well as roughly tune it when putting 
it in… not bad for $150 I figure! 

You do have to store with them for the winter to get that price, but their 
storage fees are equally competitive. The savings more than make up for the 7 
or 8 hour sail from Halifax… and its becoming a nice start and end of season 
tradition with my, now grown, kids.

Dean 

> On Oct 1, 2021, at 7:22 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> at the club pulling the mast costs me a 6-pack.  Mast crane available (some 
> times ya gotta wait), bring friends.  But I've never hired a rigger.
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
> On 2021-10-01 5:39 p.m., Jim Watts via CnC-List wrote:
>> No boom truck, there is a mast crane right beside the Travelift. 
>> 
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 11:53, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > > wrote:
>> We have a spar crane at our club that is no charge to members.  We get a 
>> group of owners together to do our own
>> 
>>  
>> If we pay someone it is under $500 each way for  boat such as the 35.  I 
>> suspect that you may need to hire a boom truck, etc as part of your mast 
>> down and put it back up
>> 
>>  
>> Mike Hoyt
>> 
>> Persistence
>> 
>> Halifax
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> From: Jim Watts via CnC-List > > 
>> Sent: October 1, 2021 2:51 PM
>> To: 1 CnC List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
>> Cc: Jim Watts mailto:paradigmat...@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Stus-List Mast in and out
>> 
>>  
>> As part of a quote for potentially painting the topsides, we were given a 
>> cost for the local rigger to take the mast out and put it back in. I thought 
>> $1500 was a little steep, but I haven't done this since we had our 29-2, so 
>> maybe prices have gone up by 10X in the interim. I'm curious as to what kind 
>> of costs folks are incurring on their mast work just to see if this is 
>> reasonable. I also recently got a quote for $4500 which then ballooned to 
>> $9000 and counting to replace our rod rigging with wire. Does this sound at 
>> all in the ballpark?
>> 
>>  
>> Jim Watts
>> Paradigm Shift
>> C 35 Mk III
>> Victoria, BC
>> 
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Stus-List Re: In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Her’s their web address: http://www.huttonwinches.com/products/spares 


Dean
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, Nova Scotia

> On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:02 AM, Doug via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> There is an outfit in Australia that has spare parts for barient and Barlow 
> winches. The name escapes me..
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C & C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard Yacht Club 
> Port Orchard, WA
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" 
> Date: 9/20/21 17:28 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: "Lisle Kingery, PhD" 
> Subject: Stus-List In search of Barient 17 self tailing winch retaining nut
> 
> Any chance anyone knows of somewhere I might be able to find a Barient 17 st 
> winch retaining nut, the one on the top of the winch. I lost mine today 
> unfortunately when I pulled on the jib sheet and the darn thing was loose and 
> fell overboard. Been scouring the internet with not much luck so thought I 
> would check with the list.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lisle
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Stus-List Re: Port Townsend boats and Tally Ho

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

My excuse? I’m still a little (okay a lot) intimidated by this knowledgeable 
group… but after about a year of diligently following and learning from you 
all, I expect I’ll jump in on one of these infamous calls, once I put the boat 
to bed for the winter in the next month!

Dean 
BarraWind
C 34
Halifax, NS 




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Stus-List Re: Boric Acid Powder

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Not a spider deterrent, but a mouse deterrent…

A friend (who has a crazy number of outboard motors) and has had huge issues 
with mice eating the wiring when in storage, swears by putting a piece of Irish 
Spring soap in each cowling…. says’s he’s never had an issue since. I’ll try 
that myself this fall!
Dean




> On Aug 30, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You mentioned that you don’t want to use the spider spray, but this one 
> (Bug-Tek) is less toxic and does not hurt the environment that much. And it 
> is pretty effective. I use it to spray the dock lines - if they cannot get 
> through the lines, they have to swim to the boat or fly (I know some can fly 
> on their webs). So, the numbers are substantially reduced.
>  
> For the mice problem, we use cloves. It does not kill anything, but 
> apparently mice don’t like the smell. An added benefit is that the smell is 
> quite nice for most humans. We buy about 0.5 kg each fall and distribute them 
> around the boat (in small bags). When we had a cottage, we used another 1 kg 
> for the cottage. It either works or it is a great coincidence that since we 
> started using them, the mice went somewhere else.
>  
> Of course, YMMV
>  
> Marek
>  
>  
> From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Cc: Bill Coleman mailto:colt...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Boric Acid Powder
>  
> Has anyone ever tried Boric Acid for spiders?
> We have gobs of them here on the lakes.
>  
> Practical Sailor just had some discussion on using this for Cockroaches, and 
> I see now, silverfish and water bugs – but I see no mention of spiders.
> I am trying to get away from spider spray, for obvious reasons, and this 
> looks like a much more friendly alternative, but if it won’t work, well then 
> . . . I guess back to the drawing board.
>  
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>  
>  
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Stus-List Re: George Harding Cuthbertson's Binder 1982 - 2008

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Just made another donation myself! Great organization.
D
ean
C 34
Halifax, NS


> On Aug 9, 2021, at 1:26 PM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> When you are settled….. I have scanned some of his binders and been slowly 
> releasing them in to the wild.  I’ve tried raising funds after I release and 
> that didn’t have much impact do I’m going for the not releasing till … 
> approach :-).   I have a few more binders so hopefully I can get it pushed a 
> little farther along.  
> 
> Always happy to help
> 
> I would love to still do a fundraiser with the cove strip drawing from 
> Inishfree….
> 
> JK
> 
> 
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Done.
>> Been a member for some years now, great organization.
>> Hope to visit the place before I croak.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Coleman
>> Entrada, Erie, PA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2021 11:28 AM
>> To: Stus-List
>> Cc: Doug Cowie; JohnKelly Cuthbertson
>> Subject: Stus-List George Harding Cuthbertson's Binder 1982 - 2008
>> 
>> I have the next binder ready for your evening reading at the Dock.
>> 
>> Now if I could impose on you kind folks to help me and the Marine Museum 
>> of the Great Lakes in Kingston out.  The museums fundraiser to digitize 
>> their collection of C drawings has been stuck at $1125 for a while.  
>> If I could nudge a few of you to help them out, I'll release the next 
>> binder when the total hits $1500.
>> 
>> Hopefully we can do this, they have a long way to go to meet their goal, 
>> but every bit helps.
>> 
>> I want to thank all those that have contributed already.
>> 
>> https://www.canadahelps.org/en/dn/60975
>> 
>> JohnKelly Cuthbertson
>> 
>> 
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Stus-List Bilge pump outflow

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

On my C 34, I have a non-automatic bilge pump in the well next to the mast 
holder. It’s old and back flows about gallon (maybe an exaggeration!) of water 
back into the bilge once it shuts off. I’m replacing it and expect I can just 
attach the new bilge pump to the existing outflow piping. My question is, if I 
wanted to install a second one (automatic one), slightly higher in same area, 
Do I need an entirely new outflow and thru-hull or can I join it with a ‘Y’ 
connector to the same pipe as the first bilge pump… so they would each use same 
pipe/thru-hull?

Dean
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Stus-List Re: Removing lettering

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Adhesive lettering is WAY easier than old painted lettering! 

A heat gun and a sharp scraper are your friends. The heat gun will loosen the 
adhesive on the vinyl and then you can get a scraper or razor edged scraper in 
underneath to peel it off.

Dean 
C 34
Halifax, NS

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Stus-List Re: Leaving interior Teak natural?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

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Matt,

My PO (or maybe the PPO) was similarly sloppy when applying Cetol throughout 
exterior and interior of boat. I tried a few things and the ABSOLUTE Best is 
gently scraping with the dull bottle opener end of my Swiss Army knife. So, I 
bet a big rounded-over flat-head screwdriver would wor kwell too. It beats any 
solvent I’ve tried. I just gently scape (or push) of Cetol off the gelcoat— 
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Stus-List Leaving interior Teak natural?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Spring chores on the new-to-me C 34… every piece of the beautiful teak 
interior is coated in Cetol. It makes it look so DARK! I’m successfully 
removing the Cetol with a heat gun and scraper. After a light sand, I’m 
wondering if I varnish it or leave it uncoated (natural). I’m not a fan of 
oiling as it seems to attract dirt and grime. Obviously I’ll be treating any 
exterior woodwork… but what about the interior, varnish or natural? Or 
something else?

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Stus-List Re: C 34 re-power HP

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

My new-to-me 1980 C 34 was re-powered in 2009 with a Yanmar 30hp…. seems like 
a good amount of power to me.

Dean
Halifax NS
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Stus-List Re: test

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Backa ta ya.
Dean
BarraWind
C
Halifax, NS


> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:36 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> testing!  A couple of replies would be appreciated (but don't y'all get 
> carried away with it...)
> 
> -- 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
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Stus-List Re: Americas Cup racing

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Jeff,

I’m in Halifax and I have watched them on YouTube… just search for Americas 
Cup. I’ve watched in real-time but they also have replays of various races and 
discussion shows. Too marvel at the technology!

Dean

C 34
BarraWind
Halifax, NS

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Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Yep, was at 3/4 full. I’m pretty sure it was crud picked up by pickup in tank. 
Kinda hard to get at now, but I’ll sort it out when I haul in in a month or so. 
Meanwhile, I’ll happily avoid anymore voyages like we had!
Dean

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kinda basic question, but did the tank have sufficient fuel?  Too little in 
> rough seas could be a problem with a diesel.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
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Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?

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Not sure if the diesel replaced a gas engine, but I expect it did. 
Unfortunately owner who did that switch is unreachable. I’ll check into that 
tube in next day or so!
Dean

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 8:26 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the list and the 34 is a great boat.  FWIW we still have original 
> 3GM and it works like a charm
>  
> I second the thought of checking the tube.  Exactly what happened on our 
> previous boat when we changed from gas to diesel.  My understanding is 
> screens on pickup tube were common if engine was gas.  Did your Yanmar 
> replace a gas engine?
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
> Fountain via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 4:20 PM
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> Cc: Paul Fountain
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
>  
> I’d also pull the fuel pick tube and see if there is a screen in the end of 
> it, if there is one remove it - it’s likely picking up sediment and starving 
> the engine, dropping ir when the engine stops.
>  
> If it that or the filters I would either polish the fuel, and add a cleaner, 
> or remove it and have the tank cleaned. 
>  
> Paul
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dean McNeill via 
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> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:19:50 PM
> To: Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
> Cc: Dean McNeill 
> Subject: Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?
>  
> Just brought my new-to-me C home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a 
> kitten in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to 
> motor-sail a bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, 
> would suddenly lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few 
> moments, but would do it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds 
> died down and started it up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour 
> motor in calm waters after that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard 
> until 2 weeks ago when I bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water 
> separator and inline fuel filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under 
> water during that point of sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just 
> change up filters, or was it probably sediment in tank being kicked up and 
> starving the engine? Thoughts?
> 
> Dean
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Stus-List Yanmar cutting out at sea?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Just brought my new-to-me C home. My 2009 Yanmar 3YM30 purred like a kitten 
in most seas. But this was a 30 hour slog through hell. Decided to motor-sail a 
bit in some heavy seas (20-25 kts), engine, at 2500-2800 rpm, would suddenly 
lose revs then often quit. Could start up again in a few moments, but would do 
it again in 5 minutes or so. Gave up on it until winds died down and started it 
up no problem... worked flawlessly for a 2 hour motor in calm waters after 
that. Boat was fully serviced in fall and on hard until 2 weeks ago when I 
bought and launched it. Has a Racor filter/water separator and inline fuel 
filter. I'm wondering if the exhaust being under water during that point of 
sail would cause the issue or maybe I should just change up filters, or was it 
probably sediment in tank being kicked up and starving the engine? Thoughts?

Dean


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Stus-List Wincher's size for C 34

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Just bought a C 34 with Barient #25 two speed winches, but not self-tailing. 
Wondering if anyone knows the size I should order to add the rubber “Winchers” 
to make them sort-of self-tailing? Or can someone measure the barrel diameter 
of same winches if you have them…. My new boat is a 4 hour drive away at the 
moment.

Thanks! Dean

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Stus-List Insurance Provider?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I‘m in process of purchasing a 1980 C 34 but I’m being held up by insurance 
provider. 

My broker (specializing in marine insurance) has sent the clean survey and all 
details to the insurance provider. Was supposed to be 2 days for approval… it’s 
now stretching into 4 days and we can’t get a response from provider. I can’t 
do a deal unless I know I can get vessel insured. Any insurers/brokers that you 
think are great and responsive so I can get this deal done?

A little leery of trying the online quote-and-go options but maybe I should? 
Any good redo’s?

I’m in Halifax, Nova Scotia if that matters.

Dean

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