Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[Sanju U]

Hi Abdul,
I bought it from local music store in Ghatkopar-Mumbai.
Regards,
Sanjay



- Original Message 
From: Abdul Basith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:24:04 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release


Hi,
may i know from where u bought the Dubai concert DVD?
ARR Rockz.
 
Regards,
Basith

 
On 7/20/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: 
Pirated Versions of Delhi Concert is available 


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sanju U <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

Hi,
 
Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
 
I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
Where can I find it.
 
Thanks,
Sanjay


-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always 


-- 
Kind Regards,
Abdul Basith  


  

[arr] Madhushree Voice Resembles Sadhana Sargam ?

[r arvind]

Been listening to Marudaani from Sakarakatti  since Morning on loop Madhushree 
Voice For me very much sounds & Resembles like Sadhana Sargam

 



  

Re: [arr] Chief Minister’s request for A.R. Rahman

[Leslie D]

Yes nothing (bad) like it. ARR is better of doing an Ada than a Prashant
movie ;)

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:36 PM, r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> if this works out ...nothing like it !!
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [arr] Chief Minister's request for A.R. Rahman
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:16 PM
>
>  Chief Minister Kalainyar Karunanidhi had hit the bull's eyes with his
> stupendous works with his recent flick Uliyin Osai. The film is successfully
> doing well among the masses and now, he has kick-started with his next
> project titled 'Ponner-Shankar' . The film has Prashanth donning dual roles
> and it's a historic period movie about brave brothers raising their voices
> against the colonial domination.
>
> Chief Minister M.Karunanidhi had personally invited A.R. Rahman to his
> residence. Sources close to him have stated that he has requested Rahman to
> score music for this film. Kalainyar had watched period films like Lagaan,
> Mangal Pandey and got enthralled with Rahman's musical score.
>
> Now, Rahman has almost accepted to score music for the film and things
> would be confirmed sooner….
>  http://www.kollywoo dtoday.com/ news/chief- ministers- request-for-
> ar-rahman/
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer

[Leslie D]

Movie making is a team work and it doesnt click unless everybody does the
job. If JTYJN has done great business, credit should go to everybody. ARR's
music and great publicity was the reason for a good opening, but if the film
is sustaining then the credit has to go to the director and producer. Songs
being hit, ARR is the MAIN reason but for the movie being hit, director and
producer are the main reason.

One great thing about the movie was the performance of the supporting
actors. Reminded me of 80's Malayalam movies where each and every member of
the supporting cast out do each other.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:38 PM, r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Music by ARR is THE MAIN reason for pushing the Movie to be a BIG Hit ARR
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [arr] Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:10 PM
>
>  Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer
> --
>   July 19, 2008 6:02:19 PM IST
> Joginder Tuteja, Bollywood Trade News Network
> [image: Send to 
> Friend]
>
> [image: view JAANE TU YA JAANE NA movie 
> stills]
>
> *view JAANE TU YA JAANE NA
> movie stills *
> JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has turned out to be a blockbuster at the box office.
> Not just that, it has also created a record for Imran Khan who now has the
> biggest grosser to his credit when it comes to a debut film.
>
> Sustaining itself brilliantly with increased number of prints in its second
> week, the film has barely shown a fall in collections and collected another
> 17 crores at the box office. This brings its two week total to more than 37
> crores which leaves behind the collections of all those blockbusters/ super
> hits in the last couple of decades which featured newcomers.
>
> The films that we are talking about are KAHO NAA...PYAAR HAI, MAINE PYAAR
> KIYA, QAYAMAT SE QAYAMAT TAK and ISHQ VISHK - each of which had it's main
> lead being seen in a lead role (in a commercial set-up) for the first time.
> Hrithik Roshan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, Shahid Kapoor - each of them had a
> great kick start to their career when the aforementioned films went on to be
> huge hits. The collections for these films (incidentally all of them
> belonged to romantic genre) were huge and turned the actors into a household
> name.
>
> The same has now happened for Imran Khan for whom JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has
> turned out to be a great beginning. Collections speak for themselves as 37
> crores in just two weeks is far more than what any debutant leading hero has
> enjoyed in the past.
>
> With 50 crores collections being a given for this Abbas Tyrewala film, it
> now has to be seen whether the film goes on to top 60 crores, a benchmark
> set by the two biggest grossers of 2008 so far - RACE and JODHAA AKBAR!
>
> http://www.glamsham .com/movies/ scoops/08/ jul/19-blockbust er-jtyjn-
> biggest-ever- success-for- a-070807. 
> asp
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[jamshid TC]

Can somebody compare  these three Concerts LA, Delhi and Dubai ? I have watched 
LA and Delhi.But would like to know how was the Dubai one compred to this. as 
vithur said, i got the Delhi one somebdy recorded from TV channel. so the LA 
concerts tops on the other but its in 2000 , so missing lots of new songs.eager 
to know how the Dubai one was...
 
 
Thanks
Jamshid

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:31 PM












Official Releases are the Dubai & LA Concert by Sa Re Ga Ma


--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:38 PM





Pirated Versions of Delhi Concert is available 


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sanju U <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:







Hi,
 
Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
 
I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
Where can I find it.
 
Thanks,
Sanjay




-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always 
 














  

Re: [arr] Rank this year's Rahman's Releases

[Muktak Kanjilal]

1. Jashn e Bahara
2. Khwaja Mere Khwaja
3. Kahin to hogi
4. Meherbaan
5. Marudaani




Muktak Kanjilal

--- On Sun, 20/7/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: $ Pavan Kumar $ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Rank this year's Rahman's Releases
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 20 July, 2008, 1:05 AM











Ok..We have had 4 releases this year...diverse music...from a single man..from 
grand Azeemon Shan to melodious marudaani... we have had a real treat... Lets 
try to rank these 4 albums and select 5 fav songs from these albums..
 
 
Abums :
 
1.Jodhaa Akbar
2.Jaane Tu
3.Ada
4.Sakkarkatti
 
 
Songs :
 
1.Khwaja Mere Khwaja
2.Marudaani
3.Kahin tho hogi..
4.Ishq Ada (Male version)
5.Azeemon Shan Shensha..
 
 
 
 














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Re: [arr] Song of the week - malarodu malar - Bombay

[Vinayakam Murugan]

Thanks a lot, Srini.

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Srini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   *Here's the lyrics of the song.. (along with the translation)*
>
> *Malarodu malar ingu maghizhnthadum bothu [When the flowers can smile and
> dance together]
> manathodu manam ingu pagai koLvatheno? [Why do hearts grow enmity with one
> another]
> madham ennum madham oyattum [Let the madness in the name of religion
> disappear]
> desam malar meethu thuyil kollatum [Let the nation sleep on a flower bed]*
> *
>
> vazhikindra kaneeril enam illayee [There is no caste in the tears that
> fall]
> uthirathin neram ingu verillaye [The colour of the blood is no different]
> kaatrukku dhisai illlai desam illai [The wind does not have a direction or
> a nation]
> manathodu manam seratum [Let the hearts unite]
>
> (malarodu malar engu..)
>
> thuli ellam kai korthu kadal aagatum [The the droplets join hands to become
> an ocean]
> kadalodu kadal serattum [Let all the oceans unite]
> thugal ellam ondragi malai aagatum [Let the pieces unite to form a
> mountain]
> vinnodu vinn seratum [Let all the skies unite]
> *
>
> *vidiyatha iravondrum vaanil illai [There is no night in the sky which
> doesnt dawn]
> oliyodu oli seratum [Let all the sounds unite]*
> Cheers,
> Srini
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Vinayakam Murugan wrote:
>
>
> Movie: Bombay
> Song Malarodu malar
>
> malarodu malar ingu maghinthadum bothu
>
> When flowers can smile and dance together
>
> manathodu manam engu pagai kolvatheno?
>
> Why do minds keep fighting with one another
>
> Does anyone have the complete lyrics of this song?
>
> What a song!!!. What a brilliant tune!!!  The tune conveyed a soothing
> effect in the aftermath of the riots , with the hope of a bright future
> ahead.
>
> Have to go now. But will join in the discussion later.
>
>
> Warm Regards
> ~~~
> Vinayak
> http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/
>
>
> 
>
> Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
> rahit vyahvar mera
>
> Harivanshrai Bacchan
>
> -
>
>
>  

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Shah Navas]

What exactly needed is courage to accept one's faults and respect others
views, which Rawat doesn't even seem to be aware of. .

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Spiritual strength is the need of the hour, to read such mails... What
> else. We cant start fighting all the time here ...
>
> I seriously get the doubt, that some one has hacked V.S. Rawat 's id, and
> sending all these mails.. Or is Rawat going through tough times... ( Sorrry.
> No Offense meant )
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:39 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
>>
>> > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
>> > in JA in interviews. Why would he lie? To be politically correct?
>>
>> That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of
>> understanding people go with.
>>
>> I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was personal
>> sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
>>
>> So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
>>
>> And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the
>> exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music for it.
>>
>> I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies are
>> all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
>>
>> I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone
>> of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me.
>> It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the movie was
>> released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and
>> seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that you all
>> talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that movie
>> is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
>>
>> That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group. Just
>> praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
>>
>> > Please. The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10
>> > families who I know from various parts of India say that the music of
>> > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
>> > one of the best albums in bollywood recently. Sales don't lie either
>> > as this album has done very well commercially.
>>
>> People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they
>> loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better
>> than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are
>> miles behind the level of ARR's music.
>>
>> Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales
>> charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth,
>> Water, etc. were commercially flop.
>>
>> > ARR purposely wanted to
>> > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam,
>>
>> I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something different.
>> :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
>>
>> > a type of
>> > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
>> > movie.
>>
>> I can believe this too.
>>
>> And he succeeded.
>>
>> JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period
>> movie.
>>
>> but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
>>
>> > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
>> > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
>> > time.
>>
>> Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you punctured
>> it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote was a
>> suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
>>
>> You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your mails nor
>> replying to you.
>>
>> so i stop here.
>>
>> >
>> > Love live JA's music. It's one of my all time favorites. Your
>> > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small minority.
>>
>> --
>> V
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>  
>

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[Kalimuthu]

It's done by music Channel Folks. If the saree is in plain color (i.e.
single color), they continously change the color of it. (Poor software
trick). I wondered many a times, why do they do such a thing. Not sure if
this still continues in music channels.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Aravind AM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hey...
> that color changing saree effect comes in an ARR song dude... the song is
> MELLISAIYE from Mr. Romeo
>
>
> http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com
>
> Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 7/20/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:35 AM
>
>
>  I remembered having seen some tamil (or south indian language) song on
> some cable channel once, years ago, in which the heroine's sari was
> constantly changing colors - all colors were used one after another. It
> looked so odd. No real purpose of such computerized effects. it was not
> ARR song, but even if it had been, that was not ARR's problem.
>
> I wonder if someone could post a still of Mayilirege showing the CG you
> are talking about.
>
> Rangeela also had CG in Mangta hai Kya when they were flying in the sky
> sitting on a sofa or something. Not good, not bad. I don't know why they
> really bothered to show that.
>
> --
> V
>
> On 7/19/2008 7:33 PM India Time, _Thineshan_ wrote:
>
> > the graphics in those movies were like a cartoon! i understand its an
> > imaginary song but even still why cartoons? the funny thing is they
> > didnt try to do a cartoon but it turned out that way. very cheap
> > stuff. if u see movies like lord of the rings, its REAL. they use
> > computer graphics for skies and distant stuff and it looks EPIC!
> > imagine mayilirage song with colors in the background representing a
> > peacocks feather! that is creative and intelligent and cheap use of
> > graphics...
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com ,
> V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >> Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of
> >> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
> >>
> >> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
> >>
> >> thanks.
> >> --
> >> V
> >>
> >> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they
> > haven'tmessed up
> >>> big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
> >>>
> >>> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed //* wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>
> >>> Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive
> > graphics"
> >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com 
> >>> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
> >>>
> >>> The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
> >>> how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the
> > graphics.. Good
> >>> numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
> >>> again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
> >>> justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
> >>> Graphics.. ;o)
>
>
> 
>



-- 
Sent from my very old 386 machine.

Re: [arr] Song of the week - malarodu malar - Bombay

[Srini]

Here's the lyrics of the song.. (along with the translation)

Malarodu malar ingu maghizhnthadum bothu [When the flowers can smile  
and dance together]
manathodu manam ingu pagai koLvatheno? [Why do hearts grow enmity with  
one another]
madham ennum madham oyattum [Let the madness in the name of religion  
disappear]
desam malar meethu thuyil kollatum [Let the nation sleep on a flower  
bed]


vazhikindra kaneeril enam illayee [There is no caste in the tears that  
fall]
uthirathin neram ingu verillaye [The colour of the blood is no  
different]
kaatrukku dhisai illlai desam illai [The wind does not have a  
direction or a nation]

manathodu manam seratum [Let the hearts unite]

(malarodu malar engu..)

thuli ellam kai korthu kadal aagatum [The the droplets join hands to  
become an ocean]

kadalodu kadal serattum [Let all the oceans unite]
thugal ellam ondragi malai aagatum [Let the pieces unite to form a  
mountain]

vinnodu vinn seratum [Let all the skies unite]

vidiyatha iravondrum vaanil illai [There is no night in the sky which  
doesnt dawn]

oliyodu oli seratum [Let all the sounds unite]

Cheers,
Srini


On Jul 20, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Vinayakam Murugan wrote:



Movie: Bombay
Song Malarodu malar

malarodu malar ingu maghinthadum bothu

When flowers can smile and dance together

manathodu manam engu pagai kolvatheno?

Why do minds keep fighting with one another

Does anyone have the complete lyrics of this song?

What a song!!!. What a brilliant tune!!!  The tune conveyed a  
soothing effect in the aftermath of the riots , with the hope of a  
bright future ahead.


Have to go now. But will join in the discussion later.


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya  
hai chal rahit vyahvar mera


Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[r arvind]

Official Releases are the Dubai & LA Concert by Sa Re Ga Ma


--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 11:38 PM











Pirated Versions of Delhi Concert is available 


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sanju U <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:







Hi,
 
Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
 
I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
Where can I find it.
 
Thanks,
Sanjay

 


-- 
regards,
Vithur


ARR -- The Sweet Cube always 

  




 

















  

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[Aravind AM]

hey...
that color changing saree effect comes in an ARR song dude... the song is 
MELLISAIYE from Mr. Romeo


http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com

 Download Rahmania show interviews at http://rahmania.4shared.com

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:35 AM











I remembered having seen some tamil (or south indian language) song 
on 

some cable channel once, years ago, in which the heroine's sari was 

constantly changing colors - all colors were used one after another. It 

looked so odd. No real purpose of such computerized effects. it was not 

ARR song, but even if it had been, that was not ARR's problem.



I wonder if someone could post a still of Mayilirege showing the CG you 

are talking about.



Rangeela also had CG in Mangta hai Kya when they were flying in the sky 

sitting on a sofa or something. Not good, not bad. I don't know why they 

really bothered to show that.



--

V



On 7/19/2008 7:33 PM India Time, _Thineshan_ wrote:



> the graphics in those movies were like a cartoon! i understand its an

> imaginary song but even still why cartoons? the funny thing is they

> didnt try to do a cartoon but it turned out that way. very cheap

> stuff. if u see movies like lord of the rings, its REAL. they use

> computer graphics for skies and distant stuff and it looks EPIC!

> imagine mayilirage song with colors in the background representing a

> peacocks feather! that is creative and intelligent and cheap use of

> graphics... 

> 

> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

>> Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of 

>> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?

>>

>> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.

>>

>> thanks.

>> --

>> V

>>

>> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:

>>

>>> Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they

> haven'tmessed up 

>>> big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!

>>>

>>> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed //* wrote:

>>>

>>> From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>

>>> Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive

> graphics"

>>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

>>> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM

>>>

>>> The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure

>>> how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the

> graphics.. Good

>>> numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was

>>> again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team

>>> justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap

>>> Graphics.. ;o)




  




 

















  

Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[Abdul Basith]

Hi,
may i know from where u bought the Dubai concert DVD?
ARR Rockz.

Regards,
Basith


On 7/20/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Pirated Versions of Delhi Concert is available
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sanju U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
>>
>> I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
>> Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
>> Where can I find it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sanjay
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>
> 
>



-- 
Kind Regards,
Abdul Basith

[arr] Re: Rank this year's Rahman's Releases

[Dinesh]

My ranking


Album:
1.Ada
2.Sakarakatti
3.Jodha Akhbar
4.JTYJN

Songs:
1.Marudhani
2.Hawa Sun Hawa
3.In Lamhoon 
4.Jaane Tu Mera Kya Hai (Aditi)


:)




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, $ Pavan Kumar $ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Ok..We have had 4 releases this year...diverse music...from a single
man..from grand Azeemon Shan to melodious marudaani...we have had a
real treat... Lets try to rank these 4 albums and select 5 fav songs
from these albums..
>  
>  
> Abums :
>  
> 1.Jodhaa Akbar
> 2.Jaane Tu
> 3.Ada
> 4.Sakkarkatti
>  
>  
> Songs :
>  
> 1.Khwaja Mere Khwaja
> 2.Marudaani
> 3.Kahin tho hogi..
> 4.Ishq Ada (Male version)
> 5.Azeemon Shan Shensha..
>  
>  
>  
>

[arr] Jodha Akbar DVD

[Indmov Buff]

 
Is anyone aware of a 2-disc edition of JA being released? HMV 
(http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=784670) 
seem to be getting ready to sell a single disc edition. Anyone has any news on 
a possible 2-disc edition by any chance?
 


  

Re: [arr] Rank this year's Rahman's Releases

[Indmov Buff]

Abums :
 
1.Jodhaa Akbar
2.Jaane Tu
3.Ada
4.Sakkarkatti
 
 
Songs (this is a tough one) :
 
1.Jashn-e-Bahaaran
2.Khwaja Mere Khwaja
3.Hawa sun hawa
4.Kabhi Kabhi
5.Marudaani

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: $ Pavan Kumar $ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Rank this year's Rahman's Releases
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:35 PM











Ok..We have had 4 releases this year...diverse music...from a single man..from 
grand Azeemon Shan to melodious marudaani... we have had a real treat Lets 
try to rank these 4 albums and select 5 fav songs from these albums...
 
 
Abums :
 
1.Jodhaa Akbar
2.Jaane Tu
3.Ada
4.Sakkarkatti
 
 
Songs :
 
1.Khwaja Mere Khwaja
2.Marudaani
3.Kahin tho hogi..
4.Ishq Ada (Male version)
5.Azeemon Shan Shensha..
 
 
 
 














  

Re: [arr] Rahman reveals Marmayogi secrets

[Srinivasa Krishnan]

Wow! A gr8 news!

-- 
Regards,
V SRINIVASA KRISHNAN

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM, rahmanfever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> *Rahman reveals Marmayogi secrets*
> IR Bureau, July 18, 2008:
>
> Marmayogi, the immediate mega venture of Kamal Hassan after Dasavatharam
> will have more number of songs, says A R Rahman.
>
> The music maestro, who is joining hands with the versatile actor after a
> gap has said in an interview that Kamal has demanded more songs for the
> film, as the script has ample scope for music.
>
> To a question on Kamal's reported remarks that movies should be made
> without songs, Rahman said, `I don't think so. If it is the case, then why
> Kamal should ask more numbers from me for Marmayogi.'
>
> http://www.indiareel.com/Tamil/news.asp?id=2794
>
>
>
> --
> regards..
>
> Krish...
> His Music ~ My Mother Tongue
>
>
>
>
>
> "My Mother is instrumental for me coming to this music world ..Of course I
> came here since my dad passed away, but my passion was computer science. I
> was to become a computer engineer , but my mother forced me into music field
> , encouraged my interest towards, that's why whatever I am today, I am
> because of her, else I would have been somewhere developing computers.." --
> ARR
>
> http://www.orkut.co.in/AlbumList.aspx?uid=7295035299513517297
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI

[Loganandh N]

YESit was 6 times...
But i was not sure abt it at 0:34 n 0:44 when i posted this Q.
Kwel observation man...



- Original Message 
From: || V i s h w e s h || <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:28:52 PM
Subject: Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI


6 times... 0:11, 0:34, 0:44, 2:49, 4:43.

At 2:49, it starts from both left & right channels, one after another... with 
just a split second of difference between the two...


" The search is more important than the destination "
- a r rahman -

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From: zlksru suresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in>
Subject: Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 2:51 PM


two

--- On Sat, 19/7/08, Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> wrote:

From: Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in>
Subject: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 1:22 PM


Hi alll..
 
A small trivia for u all folks.
Can anyone tell the number of times the sound of Taxi Engine start
heard in TAXI TAXI song?
 
Bye
Loganandh 
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Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Gopal Srinivasan]

Don't you guys ever sleep? No more posts will be allowed on this
thread for the next 24 hours.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 6:06 PM India Time, _rayrai2k_ wrote:
> 
> > Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given 
> > importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the 
> > multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the 
> > best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again.
> > I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a 
> > virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They 
> > collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo 
> > Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were 
> > brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though 
> > Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a 
> > proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down the 
> > movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics ARR's 
> > music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper 
> > justice. I liked the way Saawariyan  was done it was more touching. 
> > Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before 
> > that He was in other words did justice for songs. 
> 
> yaar, what exactly would be a good picturization?
> 
> I think where something difference is there, where some creativity,
some 
> imagination is there, that would be a good picturization.
> 
> Lagaan:
> 
> ghanan ghanan
> - a group of villagers singing, as is 100s of songs
> 
> mitwa
> - it was good :-)
> 
> radha kaise na jale
> - hero/ heroine singing and dancing, as is 1000s of songs
> 
> o rey chhori
> - hero/ heroine singing, as is 1000s of songs. But that switch to the 
> English part of british lady was good.
> 
> chale chalo
> - a group of guys singing, as is 1000s of songs
> 
> Waltz For A Romance
> - a dance sequence. It was superb. created the exact atmosphere of
those 
> times.
> 
> o paalanhare
> - a prayer, like in 100s of songs.
> 
> So, how many came out as good, though it is my personal opinion.
> 
> See, songs were good, beautiful, great. They were so great that only if 
> just buffalos were shown on the screen, it would have sounded good. 
> Radha Kaise Na jale was beautifully conceived - as a song. Chale
Chalo's 
> feel was greatly motivating - as a song, Palanhare was so lovely, soft, 
> touching - as a song.
> 
> But if you press the mute button on your TV/ PC while these sequences 
> are running on screen and you don't get to listen the song part and see 
> only visual, what great do you find in that visual to call it great 
> picturization.
> 
> As I said, Mitwa would still appear good even in mute, Waltz sequence 
> would still appear good even in mute, O rey Chhori's switching to and 
> back from British lady part would still appear good.
> 
> But if you play some Anu Malik or Kalyanji AnandJi or Laxmikant
Pyarelal 
> on your song player while these videos are playing on mute, would you 
> still like the visual, giving concessions for the mismatch?
> 
> no way. There was hardly any creativity, no imagination in these songs' 
> picturization. the visuals would not keep you engaged on their own 
> strengths. It was just the magic brought by the songs that made you
like 
> even those ordinary, already-used-in-1000s of films visuals.
> --
> 
> If you still don't get what I am saying. Compare guru.
> 
> See all the songs in mute. And you are still captivated just seeing
what 
> is happening in the visuals. Right?
> 
> There were no great sets in Guru as Shankar would have used, no extra 
> effort was made in Guru to create an attention grabbing background - 
> like Mani himself used in Dil Se Rey - all that fire and winds and 
> leaves and jungle.
> 
> Still, Guru's visuals, even in day to day situation, have a life of 
> their own. Such visuals are good picturization and add to the beauty of 
> songs if song is good, and song adds beauty to the visual and the total 
> synergy is breathtaking.
> 
> Raat Bhar Diya Jale, see it on mute and you are still captivated.
> 
> So, I hope I have clarified that AG didn't use good visual in his 
> earlier films also, let alone in JA. It was AG who was stealing the 
> beauty of the music to add a life to his mediocre visuals.
> 
> -- 
> V
>

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 6:06 PM India Time, _rayrai2k_ wrote:

> Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given 
> importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the 
> multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the 
> best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again.
> I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a 
> virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They 
> collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo 
> Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were 
> brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though 
> Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a 
> proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down the 
> movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics ARR's 
> music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper 
> justice. I liked the way Saawariyan  was done it was more touching. 
> Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before 
> that He was in other words did justice for songs. 

yaar, what exactly would be a good picturization?

I think where something difference is there, where some creativity, some 
imagination is there, that would be a good picturization.

Lagaan:

ghanan ghanan
- a group of villagers singing, as is 100s of songs

mitwa
- it was good :-)

radha kaise na jale
- hero/ heroine singing and dancing, as is 1000s of songs

o rey chhori
- hero/ heroine singing, as is 1000s of songs. But that switch to the 
English part of british lady was good.

chale chalo
- a group of guys singing, as is 1000s of songs

Waltz For A Romance
- a dance sequence. It was superb. created the exact atmosphere of those 
times.

o paalanhare
- a prayer, like in 100s of songs.

So, how many came out as good, though it is my personal opinion.

See, songs were good, beautiful, great. They were so great that only if 
just buffalos were shown on the screen, it would have sounded good. 
Radha Kaise Na jale was beautifully conceived - as a song. Chale Chalo's 
feel was greatly motivating - as a song, Palanhare was so lovely, soft, 
touching - as a song.

But if you press the mute button on your TV/ PC while these sequences 
are running on screen and you don't get to listen the song part and see 
only visual, what great do you find in that visual to call it great 
picturization.

As I said, Mitwa would still appear good even in mute, Waltz sequence 
would still appear good even in mute, O rey Chhori's switching to and 
back from British lady part would still appear good.

But if you play some Anu Malik or Kalyanji AnandJi or Laxmikant Pyarelal 
on your song player while these videos are playing on mute, would you 
still like the visual, giving concessions for the mismatch?

no way. There was hardly any creativity, no imagination in these songs' 
picturization. the visuals would not keep you engaged on their own 
strengths. It was just the magic brought by the songs that made you like 
even those ordinary, already-used-in-1000s of films visuals.
--

If you still don't get what I am saying. Compare guru.

See all the songs in mute. And you are still captivated just seeing what 
is happening in the visuals. Right?

There were no great sets in Guru as Shankar would have used, no extra 
effort was made in Guru to create an attention grabbing background - 
like Mani himself used in Dil Se Rey - all that fire and winds and 
leaves and jungle.

Still, Guru's visuals, even in day to day situation, have a life of 
their own. Such visuals are good picturization and add to the beauty of 
songs if song is good, and song adds beauty to the visual and the total 
synergy is breathtaking.

Raat Bhar Diya Jale, see it on mute and you are still captivated.

So, I hope I have clarified that AG didn't use good visual in his 
earlier films also, let alone in JA. It was AG who was stealing the 
beauty of the music to add a life to his mediocre visuals.

-- 
V

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[|| V i s h w e s h ||]

Nope Vithur, as far as I can remember... he is always been like this... very 
firm on whatever he  believes n' says... & pretty aggressive... it surely 
causes few heated discussions... I've witnessed several of his discussions over 
the years... & they surely are interesting to read... to tell the truth, I felt 
somewhat happy to see him back in the grp... cause he was a  major part of some 
very good discussions in the past... some ended in agreement... some not... 


" The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman -

--- On Sat, 19/7/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 7:54 PM











Spiritual strength is the need of the hour, to read such mails... 
What else. We cant start fighting all the time here ... 
 
I seriously get the doubt, that some one has hacked V.S. Rawat 's id, and 
sending all these mails.. Or is Rawat going through tough times... ( Sorrry. No 
Offense meant ) 

 

  
  
  
  




 




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[arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Jahanzeb Farooq]

very well said. I think AG is the second best after Mani when it 
comes to give the right visualization to ARR's songs. Picturizations 
of Yeh jo des, Saawariya, Chale chalo, Ghanan ghanan, Azeem-o-shaan 
and Khwaja were really great, near perfect. And those for O ri chori 
and Radha kaise na jale were also pretty good. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "rayrai2k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given 
> importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the 
> multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the 
> best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again.
> I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a 
> virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They 
> collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo 
> Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were 
> brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though 
> Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a 
> proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down 
the 
> movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics 
ARR's 
> music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper 
> justice. I liked the way Saawariyan  was done it was more 
touching. 
> Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before 
> that He was in other words did justice for songs. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
> >
> > On 7/19/2008 9:28 AM India Time, _Pradeepan R_ wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorry,. dont agree with you.
> > > AG is one of the few movie makers who know what a 
> typical 'musical' is..
> > > And ARR loves those kind of movie makers.
> > > Swades was awesome in terms of songs/BGM fitting with the 
movie.
> > > 
> > 
> > Could you highlight some movies of ARRs in which songs didn't 
fit 
> with 
> > the movie?
> > 
> > Say, what about Guru? Did songs fit or not?
> > 
> > What about Yuva, Nayak, RDB, Bombay, Dil Se? Did songs fit or 
not?
> > 
> > or not even entire movie, but any particular song that didn't 
fit 
> on 
> > screen? Mangal Pandey?
> > 
> > or do you mean ARRs all songs fitted perfectly well in all his 
> movies? 
> > Hmm. That is telling enough.
> > 
> > -- 
> > V
> >
>

[arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Jahanzeb Farooq]

Sorry Rawat this is one funny post if I am not rude.

> I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR.

I disagree altogether. It was actually an "absolute success" on part 
of ARR.

> Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the 
movie.

Unbelievable! ARR gave a music which was the intergral part of the 
movie. Being it Azeem-o-shaan, Khawaja or Man mohana, all of them 
fit so perfectly with the flow of the movie, and same is true for 
the rest two. 

> Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it 
irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it.

What a joke, Azeem-o-shaan Shahanshah is loud? no way, the song was 
one perfect example of how expert ARR is when it comes to grandeur 
songs and the organization of the instruments. It was defintely the 
best song of the album and one that I have seen personally being 
loved by people of all ages, kids to olds. I used to play it all the 
time with full volume while driving car with my family, as we all 
loved it absolutely especially the huge drums (or beats whatever) it 
starts with. And so I see it being used in background in many 
reality-TV shows and awards functions these days (recent examples 
are IIFA and SRGMP). It is a masterpiece song in all respects.

> just because the songs were on a different concept as if ARR was 
composing for a soft love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the 
music movie was Princess and Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah 
Akbar from beginning to end.

I think JA was as much a love story (or may be more) as it was a 
grandeur. And one grandeur song to the scale of Azeem-o-shaan was 
more than enough for such a movie. 

> Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so 
long and too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG 
must have kept on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing 
prayers in Muslim Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance 
and created such a lggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears.

Now that really hurts, because "Man mohana" was a classic, a 
masterpiece work completely and miserably ignored by many for un-
understandable reasons. It is my most favorite among the album and 
soon will become my most listened ARR song. Actually I loved it so 
much that I created its ring-tone and set to my mobile phone since 
that time. The song is favorite of many of my friends and was 
actually equally loved by my younger brothers and sisters even 
though they did not understand single word of pure Hindi. And what 
you said? "song that pinches in ears", this is the 
most "unbelievable" comment I have ever heard about an ARR song. It 
is one truely sweet song with perfectly soulful vocals by Bela and 
the vocals and the rythm catch you instantly as soon as the song 
starts. It is an absolute classic. The only thing I complain is the 
pure Hindi lyrics (because I cannot understand it). Actually many 
times I really wished what a blessing it would have been if ARR gave 
two versions one with complete Urdu lyrics.

> And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to darna kya" level of 
song in it. 

This I agree to "some" extent. There should have been a soft song 
(otherwise Azeem-o-shaan has done it) which would be remembered for 
ages to come like "pyar kiya to darna kya".


-
Jahanzeb

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/18/2008 8:35 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote:
> 
> > hehe Rawat, you will be disappointed to know that he is indeed 
the 
> > composer. AG is the best and gets the best out of ARR.
> 
> I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR.
> 
> ARR didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR 
had 
> absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - 
showman 
> style in which AG was making the movie.
> 
> So, ARR composed music which is very personal, individualistic 
music, 
> and that didn't match at all, didn't fit at all in the grandeur of 
the 
> movie.
> 
> Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the 
movie.
> 
> This would be the only movie of ARR in which the director didn't 
butcher 
> the songs, still the songs didn't become noticeable, just because 
the 
> songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a 
soft 
> love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was 
Princess and 
> Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end. 
> Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it 
> irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it.
> 
> How could it happen?
> 
> Why, if ARR and AG are so intimate?
> 
> Didn't AG tell ARR what he is doing in the movie so that ARR would 
have 
> included the grandeur in his music?
> 
> it seems AG kept on emphasizing to ARR that he is making a love 
story 
> between Jodha and akbar, and that is why ARR created such a 
personal 
> music for the film, missing out on the grandeur.
> 
> Mughal-e-azam also had the 100% classical persona

Re: [arr] ARR in KK's Ponnar Shankar

[sath.murthy]

KK is the author of this historical story.

Sath.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 6:49 PM India Time, _sath.murthy_ wrote:
>
> > Hello Friends,
> >
> >
> > ARR has been approached for the film Ponnar shankar. He has been
asked
> > by CM Karunanidhi to compose the music for this historical film when
> > ARR met CM a couple of days back. It seems that ARR also accepted
it.
> >
> > Let us wait for more details.
> >
> > Sath.
>
> What is Karunanidhi's involvement in this film?
>
> Anyway. Good that ARR would be doing another film and we would get
more
> music.
>
> So, ARR's must be re-thinking over his previous statement of not doing
> period movies. I sincerely think that ARR's such a statement and
> decision was wrong (not to compose for period movies). It is the
> individual producers/ directors who make a movie good or bad, whether
it
> is a period or a contemporary movie. So, if a good director is making
a
> period movie, ARR should do it.
>
> An example for Chord that ARR is not always right.
>
> --
> V
>

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 7:00 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:

> You also said that ARR's music was an absolute failure.

I said "I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR. ARR 
didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR had
absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - showman
style in which AG was making the movie."

So, this failure is not in the sense of it not being a good music or it 
not becoming popular. It is failure to gel with the movie.

> Now, you're backstepping.  If the music and film went in completely different
> directions as you clain, wouldn't be the movie have been a complete
> flop and ARR getting flogged left and right?  Hmm.

No.

There are many people in India and world who love Anu Malik's and Himesh 
Reshammiya's music, there are many people who love SRK's films and make 
even a less-that-mediocre OSO a super duper bumper smash hit whereas 
they should have seen the original Karz that would have given them much 
more pleasure as a movie as well as in music.

So, the film and music not gelling didn't prevent the movie from 
becoming a hit - piggybacking on such viewers and listeners.

You love to seek verification in box office and discs-sale figures. 
Don't do this. ARR's music and films do not have good figures on these 
counts, compared with his contemporaries.
--
V

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Vinayakam Murugan]

> On 7/19/2008 4:39 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote:
>
> > I loved the movie and the music. There wasn't any situation for a Pyar
> > Kiya toh Darna kya kind of song.
>
> Thanks for confirming that you also concede that AG is not any
> imaginative to come up with a situation for a type of a song if he wished.

I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. Maybe  Ash could
have danced in the darbaar after Hrithik suspects her.

>
> > Ultimately the film was a love story
>
> Then it was a first love story that had "Over 80 elephants, 100 horses
> and 55 camels" quoting from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodha_Akbar

So ???

>
> > and it was overall well depicted with some flaws here and there which
> > are excused..
>
> That is a group approach. I also excuse MDs and directors for small
> things. AFterall they are working in a commercial world.
>
> But no excuse for AG in JA. If AAmir had interfered in Lagaan, or SRK in
> swades, that was understandable because they were established and AG
> was new. But now AG is a name to reckon with and Hritik/ Aish are not at
> all interfering type. AG could have called all the shots in JA and he did.
> That is why the conceptual flaws of JA are solely on AG's head.

Isn't this a media created picture of Aamir / SRK interfering in the
process and Hrithik / Ash not being so? For all you know the "B" gang
could have changed the entire movie on its head. :)

> >
> > The music of JA was one of its strongest points and will continue to
> > remain so, in my opinion. We can all speculate on what AG told ARR or
> > what he didn't. The moot point is it is for them to decide whether it
> > was as per their needs or now.
>
> Of course, we are speculating.
>
> But we also know that ARR is a serious sincere person and he would give
> utmost weightage to anything a director tells him about the film. So, if
> ARR had been aware of the direction the movie was taking, he would have
> given music according to that. Afterall, he gave a very appropriate
> music for Mangal Pandey.
>
> And, if ARR was aware of the movie's direction and still gave personal
> music, then it is indeed ARR's failure. Sorry for blaming AG all along.

Again, the movie was meant to be a love story so the songs gel , in my opinion.

>
> > I haven't heard a better melody than Jashn-e-bahaara or In Lamhon Ke
> > daaman me for quite some time now. Sonu in In Lamhon Ke Daaman has
> > excelled himself. Khwaja Mere Khwaja makes me want to go on my knees and
> > pray.
>
> yeah, they all are great songs.
>
> > Man Mohana had its moments and will have its place in the list of
> > memorable film bhajans.
>
> you forgot that there was a song azeemoshaan shanshaah also in it.
>
> some slip. :0-)

The song doesn't do much for me. So I didn't mention it.

> >
> > Coming to the lyrics, ARR - Javed Akhtar jodi (Jeans, Sapney, Lagaan,
> > Swades, Jodha Akbar, etc) is right up there with ARR-Gulzar (Dil Se,
> > Guru) & ARR-VM (countless :) ) . ARR-Prasoon Joshi has started off
> > promisingly with RDB.
>
> Now, using Javed's name in same sentence in which Gulzar saheb's name is
> , is a blasphemy. :-) he he he.
>
> javed is a kid writer in front of gulzar. Gulzar writes from heart.
> Javed writes from head. There is no match.

That's my opinion. I am entitled to have mine and you to yours. I have
the highest regard for Gulzar but I honestly feel JA has mastered the
art of writing good lyrics for cinema. BTW Gulzar - Pancham is one of
all time favourite duo

> > Now that you have made mention of it, let me know switch to Jodha Akbar
> > on my playlist and relive it once again.
>
> Why? you got diabetes? can't do with sugar?? :-)
>

Didn't get your joke. Please explain via personal mail so that I can enjoy.


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai
chal rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] marudani...ARR/Madhushree magic...awesome

[Vinayakam Murugan]

I agree. The humming in Neem Neem is far more integral to the song than
Marudhani.

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Nah, his humming in Neem Neem is far more passionate.
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , V S
> Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think ARR bettered himself far far far more in Marudhani humming
> > compared to Neem Neem.
> >
> > Marudhani's humming is extempore, spontaneous, straight from the heart,
> > so involved, so deep, such a passion, as a man possessed is bursting
> out
> > humming, not able to contain what he was feeling, probably not even
> > knowing that the humming that was always going on there in his heart
> and
> > mind has come to his lips. The soft ups and downs of humming add more
> > beauty to it.
> >
> > This humming would be the best rendering of ARR.
> >
> > --
> > V
> >
> > On 7/19/2008 7:16 AM India Time, _Arijit Debnath_ wrote:
> >
> > > Again Rahman created magic with Marudani...
> > > The chemistry between Madhushree and Rahman is infectious... reminds
> > > Rahman's humming at Neem song...
> > >
> > > But sometimes I am feeling the whole song could have been filled with
> > > the magical humming by Rahman... what a piece in mind this man
> never
> > > stop surprising...
> > >
> > > Arijit
> >
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] Rawat, why do you dissect everyone's post?

[Kalimuthu]

Chord,

Small request.

Can you please avoid creating new threads that are related to the same
topic? 'What JA, Failure', 'Rawat', all should have gone under '[arr] ARR
not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?' thread.

Thanks.



On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   We are here to post our feelings and thoughts, not have each and every
> word to be dissected and analyzed arrogantly. Your posts come across
> as arrogant and quite condescending.
>
> 
>



-- 
Sent from my very old 386 machine.

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Vinayakam Murugan]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:08 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> I can prove a thousand times with real live examples that Mani's/
> Shankar's products are far better than AG's.
>
> None of you are giving a single example where AG's product was better
> than Mani's/ Shankar's
>
> All you have is "I like AG". Good enough. you have rights to your likings.
>
>


We cannot compare apples with oranges. How can one  compare Yeh Haseen
Wadiyan with O Re Chori? or compare Urvasi Urvasi with Yuhi Chala Chal.

You may show proof of Mani / Shankar being better but then I may not agree
like you don't agree to my reasoning. Which is absolutely fine. Let's agree
to disagree and move on to better topics.

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[Vinayakam Murugan]

>
> Akshay Kumar's Chura Ke dil Mera Goriya chali holds a milestone of music
> returning to melody after the cacophony of 80s.
>




Apart from the catchy mukhda, the entire song was quite listless. The song
somewhat exemplifies the money minded mentality of some of the MD's . Just
keep the mukhda attractive to hook the masses , cook up something for the
rest and move on to your next "Hit"

> 
>



Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[V S Rawat]

On 7/20/2008 12:53 AM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote:

> 
> Teri Aankhein Bhoolbhulaiya was ripped off from a Korean song . Rawat, 
> even you can create such a song you know.
> 

I can not. but I liked it a lot. which is the Korean original?

But that is all the more reason that ARR should give songs of that genre.

-- 
V

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 6:10 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:

> Rawat, I think if you were following JA from the very beginning (ie when 
> AG announced the movie), you'd see clearly how AG has stressed that it 
> is NOT going to be another MEA. Same genre maybe but completely 
> different films. He's always stressed that it's his take on the 
> relationship between Jodha andAkbhar. It has always been a love story 
> and surprise surprsie, the title happens to be Jodha Akbhar too! He has 
> said that all along and both Rahman and AG have said that they wanted to 
> give the music a contemporary feel.

music indeed had a contemporary feel, no doubt about that.

 > Pick any JA related interview before
> the release of the music/movie and you'd know what he was saying all 
> along. It takes a lot of craft to be able to deliver a JA and I don't 
> think we should take any credit away from the creators of a great piece 
> of cineme.

Nopes, here I don't agree. AG is established now after Lagaan and Swades 
and he could call the shots now and find any amount of money that he 
asked for, so he asked and wasted it. The money was wasted endlessly and 
vulgarly in cheap displays without adding essence to the film. The 
countless camels, elephants and horses reminded me of thousands of 
British armymen running and crowding the field in the same uniform in 
the last scene to arrest Aamir. No purpose of such shows. Money is a 
national resource, should be used wisely.

It was not the music that was not contemporary but it was the storyline 
that was not contemporary. The storyline was very short and shallow, it 
suited a village based film likes of what they used to make last in 60s.

The film was disproportionate at several places. Entire starting 1 hour 
was just stretching and drifting.

JA could have carried a great message of interreligious and 
intercommuncal harmony that is so much required in the tense situation 
of current times, and that is where JA failed. There was just no message 
there and such a lovely topic got wasted. Blame it on AG.

That reminds me of the initial half an hour of Akbar Khan's Tajmahal 
(Naushad's last film). That starting story would appear totally 
unrelated to the story of Tajmahal, but that had a very effective 
message. Aurangzeb going all out to grab the kingdom, killing his real 
brother and crown Prince DaraShikoh, ditching his real brother supporter 
Murad, arresting his own real father, killing the authors and poets, 
getting the commander of the opposition Army killed by intrigue - I mean 
so much blood, murders, deaths, intrigue, manipulation, greed was shown 
there that the viewers were just fed up and were ready for the message 
of love that Akbar Khan then delivered.

That is what vision is. That is what effective and impressive and wise 
use of scarce resources is. That is what story writing and film making 
is all about. subtle - elude. Kudos to Akbar Khan. And in comparison, AG 
comes out as a school student staging a drama on stage.

And JA ends abruptly. There was no point that it should have ended 
there. No milestone was reached. Nothing great has happened to leave a 
lasting impression on viewers. It just ended because AG ran short of script.

In the review of BOSE, some critique had written that Shyam Benegal's 
style of filmmaking is as if Shyam is ticking of a list of what he 
wanted to show in the film. he makes individual sequences for each 
points and ticks off that point as done. And then he puts all those 
individual sequences together and calls that a film. It is not a feature 
film making, it is documentary film making.

And I find that AG in JA followed exactly the same method of film 
making, ticking of a list of points he had decided to show, individual 
sequences put together.

Calling JA any "great piece of cineme" is giving undue credit where 
there is none. It is one of the most mediocre film ever made in India - 
vis a vis the publicity and popularity it achieved.

 > I am sorry if you went into the cinema expecting to see a
> 2008 version MEA.

I never had any great expectations from AG. I have assessed his mental 
level in Lagaan and Swades. Remove Aamir/ Shahrukh/ ARR from Lagaan and 
Swades and you wouldn't find anything worth mentioning in those movies.

Nobody could make another MEA in  last 48 years, so it was definitely 
not AG who could have make it again. And I knew I was not going to find 
a Ben Hur or Lawrence of Arabia.

so I went to JA to see ARR's music. That is all.

BTW, JA is the last film I have seen in cinema hall. Didn't saw any 
other one since. Yet to see JTJYN.

> It was never going to be that, as stressed by the 
> creator from day 1.

He was aware of his limited capability.

--
V

Re: [arr] Re: Attn Gops / Vijay /Vithur : Child artist who worked for A R Rahman

[Farzad khaleel]

Hey Ganesh,

That was a wonderful effort. Its more than enough for me. I have also sent
your name across the email to Pogo as courtesy.

Once again hats off for the efffort. You simply Rocks.

Also all others who have replied this.

Vithur BhaiHope you are doing fine :)



On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Ganesh Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   Child Artistes who have sung for Rahman
>
> Baby Pooja
> 1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades
>
> Shwetha Mohan
> 1. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
> 2. Acham Acham Illai - Indira
> Have heard that she has also done harmony for Bombaymite be in
> Kuchi Kuchi Rakma
> Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.
>
> Aditya Narayan
> 1. Rangeela re - Rangeela
> 2. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
> 3. Kahin Aag Lage - Taal
>
> G.V.Prakash
> Hindi
> 1. Kuchi Kuchi Rakhma - Bombay
> 2. Chor Chor- Chor Chor
> 3. Love You Hameshaa - Love You Hamesha
> 4. Phoolwali Ne Loota Mujhko - Muthu Maharaja
> 5. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
> 6. Kuch Bhi Na Socho - Bombay
>
> Tamil
> 1. Chikkupukku â€" Gentleman
> 2. Acham Illai - Indira
> 3. Palakkaatu Machanukku â€" May Maatham
> 4. Madrasa Suthi â€" May Maadham
> 5. Kuluvaalile Muthu - Muthu
> 6. Kaathu kathu Thinam - Uzhavan
> 7. Maarlmazha Peyyado - Uzhavan
> 8. Kuchi Kuchi Rakkama - Bombay
> 9. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay
>
> Master Vignesh
> 1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades
>
> Esther
> 1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira
> Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.
>
> Saranya
> 1. Alangatti Mazhai - Thenali
>
> Sharadha
> 1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira
> 2. Kuchi Kuchi rakma - Bombay
> 3. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay
> 4. Kuch Bhi naa Socha - Bombay
> Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.
>
> Kanathil Mutthamittaal
> Kids Chorus: K.Vidhya, R.Priya, M.Madhumitha, Charulatha, Mani,
> Subhiksha, Hari Prashanth, Ajish Ashok
>
> Udhaya
> Kids Chorus: Madhumita, Subhiksha Rangarajan, Vidya, Priya,
> Kedharnath, Haricharan
>
> Lagaan
> Kids Harmony: Madhumita, Subhiksha, Vidya, Priya, Kedharnath,
> Haricharan, Abhinas
>
> Mangal Pandey
> Kids Chorus : Raheema, Khatija, Darvesh, Leon, Puja & Vaishnavi
>
> Pukar
> Kids Chorus : K Vidya, R Survihi, R Priya, Subhiksha Rangarajan
>
> Regards,
> Ganesh
>
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> "n_farsad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gops/Vijay/Vithur and all Rahmaniacs,
> >
> > Today I got a call from POGO TV. One Mr Duo called me and inquired for
> > the child artist who performed for A R Rahman. Actually, they came
> > across the blog www.rahmaniac.co.nr and called me to inquire this. They
> > are conducting "Amazing Kids Awards", so they want to give out awards
> > who sang for A R Rahman. The age is between 4 - 14 years and the last
> > day to send nominations is 30th July.
> >
> > Hope the moderators Gopal / Vijay / Vithur or Rahmaniac could shed some
> > light on this. Can you please tell me who are the Child Artist who
> > worked for A R Rahman. The channel people think that the children who
> > got a chance to work with Rahman will be an absolute talent . So that
> > they want to give out the awards to them.
> >
> > Hope someone could help me on this. Looking forward for your reply.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Farzad
> > www.rahmaniac.co.nr
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
Farzad Khaleel
Webmaster
http://rahmaniac.co.nr

Re: [arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Thulasi Ram]

i think v have had enuf.. plz stop

2008/7/19 V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 7/19/2008 3:47 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
>
> >
> > P.S: I was also a bit surprised when you mentioned Deva and Harris
> > Jeyeraj in one of yuor previous e-mails. How doyou know these chaps?
> >  From what I understood earlier (when the there were scores of e-mails
> > of how you were of the opinion that Vairamuthu should write a few lines
> > in Hindi to prove his worth else his talents are wasted or something to
> > that effect you also did mention that you've never listened to any songs
> > other than hindi. So the surprise when you mentioned Deva HJ etc.
> >
>
> I had mentioned Deva and Athish Uthiriyan in context of that Good
> Morning Tamilnadu, and some others in different threads.
>
> I didn't mention Harris recently but he has done hindi films also so I
> know about him.
>
> I heard Sakkarakatti. Not the first tamil album that I heard, some 4-5-6
> years ago, I had tried hearing several Tamil/ Telugu albums of ARR but
> in the days of cassette player, all that rewind/forward, change cassette
> side was not convenient and it were analog and speakers. Now, on PC,
> non-stop with a microphone and digital audio, Marudhani did the trick.
>
> It is one of the best songs of ARR and I am in love with it. I
> translated lyrics to hindi (from english) and that gave me some idea of
> what they are saying and Elay is great lyrics wise. Taxi Taxi has catchy
> beats, Miss u da is seductive. Good album.
>
> I still think if Marudhani had not been in it, I might not have listened
> to this album so much, but sometimes I heard only marudhani non-stop,
> but sometimes I ended up hearing to all - due to wrong button pressed
> :-) and the songs showed their beauty.
>
> And then, several members mentioned Marudhani genre of songs and I heard
> to Mayilirege, Munbe va, Sahana/ Sahara, Alle Alle, Yedo yedo, anarkali,
> and some more.
>
> These were good, but odd that Marudhani is far better even to
> Mayilirege, Munbe va, Sahana/ Sahara. Probably that is the pain one has
> to go through when he chances upon the best song early.
>
> I am hearing other albums also one by one. Major dissappoints are the
> ones like Alli Arjuna which had reused songs from many hindi albums, but
> it is ok.
>
> Vairamuthu issue still remains unresolved. Not understanding Tamil, I
> wouldn't be able to appreciate his poetry, and if it comes to english
> hindi translations, I have already heard Latka Jhatka, aurat bhi na
> chhodoonga, telephone dhun and such shabby translations.
>
> Having waited for new ARR releases for months and years so many times in
> last 16-18 years, hearing to tamil ones suddenly presented a lot of ARR
> songs which were unheard for me till now. So a treasure is with me and I
> am enjoying that.
>
> --
> V
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Pradeepan R]

Rawat,
there will be very few who may say AG-ARR is better than Mani-ARR.
But, AG-ARR combo is quite brilliant..

The way songs fitted into Swades was awesome..
instead of a song just popping up in the movie, AG does a good job in
blending it in.

Eg:  Saawariyaan - beautiful picturisation.
   Yeh Taara Woh Taara - again beautifully blended in.
   Radha Kaise na Jalen - perfect fit.
   Mitwa - yet another classic case of picturising for a 'musical' which
is what all Indian movies attempt to be.
   In Lamhom ke - amazing way to present 'lust'  between lovers..

JA may not be the best out of the 3 AG-ARR combos, but that no way can make
someone say AG should not work with ARR !

I need AG-ARR.. Rahman needs AG  !!
Peace.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:08 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On 7/19/2008 6:56 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
>
> > Just because you prefer Mani over AG doesn't mean that what AG does or
> > the associated music with AG is a failure. Watch your words, bud.
> >
>
> I can prove a thousand times with real live examples that Mani's/
> Shankar's products are far better than AG's.
>
> None of you are giving a single example where AG's product was better
> than Mani's/ Shankar's
>
> All you have is "I like AG". Good enough. you have rights to your likings.
>
> --
> V
>
>  
>



-- 
Cheers,
Pradeepan.

"All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
!"

[arr] Rank this year's Rahman's Releases

[$ Pavan Kumar $]

Ok..We have had 4 releases this year...diverse music...from a single man..from 
grand Azeemon Shan to melodious marudaani...we have had a real treat... Lets 
try to rank these 4 albums and select 5 fav songs from these albums..
 
 
Abums :
 
1.Jodhaa Akbar
2.Jaane Tu
3.Ada
4.Sakkarkatti
 
 
Songs :
 
1.Khwaja Mere Khwaja
2.Marudaani
3.Kahin tho hogi..
4.Ishq Ada (Male version)
5.Azeemon Shan Shensha..
 
 
 


  

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[$ Pavan Kumar $]

Mr.Rawat...
 
We all fans are wrong...Rahman is wrong...Everyone is wrong..You are right..and 
we agree to it..Shall we stop it here now please? Its never going to end...

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:08 PM






On 7/19/2008 6:56 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:

> Just because you prefer Mani over AG doesn't mean that what AG does or
> the associated music with AG is a failure. Watch your words, bud.
> 

I can prove a thousand times with real live examples that Mani's/ 
Shankar's products are far better than AG's.

None of you are giving a single example where AG's product was better 
than Mani's/ Shankar's

All you have is "I like AG". Good enough. you have rights to your likings.

-- 
V

 














  

Re: [arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[Gomzy]

Teri Aankhein Bhoolbhulaiya was ripped off from a Korean song . Rawat, even
you can create such a song you know.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 12:44 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On 7/19/2008 4:25 PM India Time, _Dhruv Shenoy_ wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > We have seen ARR working with many superstars like SRK,
> > Aamir, Salman, Hrithik and Abhishek(junior).
>
> Who is Abhishek (junior)? there is only one abhishek that I know of.
>
> > We havent seen Amitabh
> > Bachchan but he atleast gave voice over in JA and Lagaan . Even in Tamil
> > film industry we had seen ARR working with Rajni, Kamal, Vijay, Surya
> > etc. But there is one more superstar ARR has never worked with :Akshay
> > Kumar. Akshay who gave back to back hits last year has worked with
> > almost all MDs of bollywood SEL,Anu Malik, Himesh, Pritam,
> > Vishal-Shekhar (Tashan). Even in the past he has worked with many MDs
> > like Nadeem Shravan, Viju Shah etc. But till now we havent seen
> > any collaberation between ARR and Akshay Kumar. *_But in future we might
> > see both of them in upcoming film BLUE(100 crores film) _*.
>
> Teri Aankhein Bhoolbhulaiya was superb, excelllent, great song, though
> video didn't measure up to the promise held by the song.
>
> ARR should give such songs also. (And Chord, I am not saying that ARR
> should copy that one.)
>
> Akshay Kumar's Chura Ke dil Mera Goriya chali holds a milestone of music
> returning to melody after the cacophony of 80s.
>
> --
> V
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 4:25 PM India Time, _Dhruv Shenoy_ wrote:

> Friends,
> 
>We have seen ARR working with many superstars like SRK, 
> Aamir, Salman, Hrithik and Abhishek(junior). 

Who is Abhishek (junior)? there is only one abhishek that I know of.

> We havent seen Amitabh 
> Bachchan but he atleast gave voice over in JA and Lagaan . Even in Tamil 
> film industry we had seen ARR working with Rajni, Kamal, Vijay, Surya 
> etc. But there is one more superstar ARR has never worked with :Akshay 
> Kumar. Akshay who gave back to back hits last year has worked with 
> almost all MDs of bollywood SEL,Anu Malik, Himesh, Pritam, 
> Vishal-Shekhar (Tashan). Even in the past he has worked with many MDs 
> like Nadeem Shravan, Viju Shah etc. But till now we havent seen 
> any collaberation between ARR and Akshay Kumar. *_But in future we might 
> see both of them in upcoming film BLUE(100 crores film) _*.

Teri Aankhein Bhoolbhulaiya was superb, excelllent, great song, though 
video didn't measure up to the promise held by the song.

ARR should give such songs also. (And Chord, I am not saying that ARR 
should copy that one.)

Akshay Kumar's Chura Ke dil Mera Goriya chali holds a milestone of music 
returning to melody after the cacophony of 80s.

-- 
V

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 6:56 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:

> Just because you prefer Mani over AG doesn't mean that what AG does or
> the associated music with AG is a failure.  Watch your words, bud.
> 

I can prove a thousand times with real live examples that Mani's/ 
Shankar's products are far better than AG's.

None of you are giving a single example where AG's product was better 
than Mani's/ Shankar's

All you have is "I like AG". Good enough. you have rights to your likings.

-- 
V

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[V S Rawat]

I remembered having seen some tamil (or south indian language) song on 
some cable channel once, years ago, in which the heroine's sari was 
constantly changing colors - all colors were used one after another. It 
looked so odd. No real purpose of such computerized effects. it was not 
ARR song, but even if it had been, that was not ARR's problem.

I wonder if someone could post a still of Mayilirege showing the CG you 
are talking about.

Rangeela also had CG in Mangta hai Kya when they were flying in the sky 
sitting on a sofa or something. Not good, not bad. I don't know why they 
really bothered to show that.

--
V

On 7/19/2008 7:33 PM India Time, _Thineshan_ wrote:

> the graphics in those movies were like a cartoon! i understand its an
> imaginary song but even still why cartoons? the funny thing is they
> didnt try to do a cartoon but it turned out that way. very cheap
> stuff. if u see movies like lord of the rings, its REAL. they use
> computer graphics for skies and distant stuff and it looks EPIC!
> imagine mayilirage song with colors in the background representing a
> peacocks feather! that is creative and intelligent and cheap use of
> graphics... 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of 
>> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
>>
>> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
>>
>> thanks.
>> --
>> V
>>
>> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
>>
>>> Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they
> haven'tmessed up 
>>> big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive
> graphics"
>>> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
>>> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
>>>
>>> The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
>>> how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the
> graphics.. Good
>>> numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
>>> again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
>>> justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
>>> Graphics.. ;o)

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 8:42 PM India Time, _shahul hameed_ wrote:

> CG adds beauty when done with perfection.. I always admire CG in 
> Shankar's films but others havn't utilized CG to perfection.. 

I think you are right. I just remembered that CG in the climax scene of 
Jeans didn't add much value to it.

> Btw I was referring to the same Mayilirage from Anbe Aaruyire..

That is also a good number. It has come second (After Marudhani) in my 
ARR wish list, that ARR should reuse Marudhani and Mayilirage to give 
their hindi versions.

> Bhagyaraj is the father of the hero and his association with 
> Sakkarakatti ends just there..

K. thanks.

-- 
V

[arr] Song of the week - malarodu malar - Bombay

[Vinayakam Murugan]

Movie: Bombay
Song Malarodu malar

malarodu malar ingu maghinthadum bothu

When flowers can smile and dance together

manathodu manam engu pagai kolvatheno?

Why do minds keep fighting with one another

Does anyone have the complete lyrics of this song?

What a song!!!. What a brilliant tune!!!  The tune conveyed a soothing
effect in the aftermath of the riots , with the hope of a bright future
ahead.

Have to go now. But will join in the discussion later.


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal
rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 7:43 PM India Time, _Vithur_ wrote:

> Shantanoo Bhagyaraj is the son of director cum actor Bhagyaraj who had 
> done a lot of movies in Tamil in yester years. This is Shantanoo 's 
> debut , and he is very fortunate to be associated with ARR, in his 
> debutant movie itself..

K. Thanks.

Has the son been Assistant to dad or some other directors in any movies?

Has dad Bhagyaraj used ARR as MD in any of his movies?

There is a Bhagyaraaj who had made hindi films also. probably K 
Bhagyaraj. any connections between them all?

-- 
V

> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of
> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
> 
> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
> 
> thanks.
> --
> V
> 
> regards,
> Vithur

Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 6:53 PM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:

>> I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that
> Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru.

> MILES behind? Too strong a word.

No, it appropriately explains what I feel about OMKARA.

 > Omkara is one of the finest albums in recent times

Agreed. OMKARA was better than many others but it is still miles, many
miles lower than ARR's level.

> and ARR himself mentioned that it was his favorite that year.  So,
> your claim of Omkara being MILES behind RDB/Guru holds no weight.  

In Chord, we have another fanatic  and if ARR says something about something, 
That
is the final divine dictate to Chord and he would end discussion with
ARR words and everybody should agree to what ARR said.

I don't agree to whatever everything that ARR says.

ARR is polite. I don't imagine ARR would ever say "My albums, my music
are the best." Even if such a statement would be 100% true.

-- 
V

Re: [arr] ARR in KK's Ponnar Shankar

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 6:49 PM India Time, _sath.murthy_ wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> 
> 
> ARR has been approached for the film Ponnar shankar. He has been asked 
> by CM Karunanidhi to compose the music for this historical film when 
> ARR met CM a couple of days back. It seems that ARR also accepted it.
> 
> Let us wait for more details.
> 
> Sath.

What is Karunanidhi's involvement in this film?

Anyway. Good that ARR would be doing another film and we would get more 
music.

So, ARR's must be re-thinking over his previous statement of not doing 
period movies. I sincerely think that ARR's such a statement and 
decision was wrong (not to compose for period movies). It is the 
individual producers/ directors who make a movie good or bad, whether it 
is a period or a contemporary movie. So, if a good director is making a 
period movie, ARR should do it.

An example for Chord that ARR is not always right.

-- 
V

[arr] My fav songs

[Vithur]

http://ubshyam123.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-favourite-ar-rahman-songs.html

I am an ardent fan of *A.R.Rahman*.. As everybody knows him as a living
LEGEND in the field of music.

I always find his songs to be different and absolutely amazing. The first
time u listen to a song composed by him, u might fell uncomfortable.. But
dont leave it.. keep hearing a couple of times.. You will get to know the
depth of his music.. Here are some My Favorites from his composition. The
list keeps on changing.. so keep viewing this blog for great songs.

1. Lagaan- Radha Kaise na jale , Ghanana Ghanana...
2. Pray for me brother
3.Rythm- Katre en perai kettal(Air), Nadhiye Nadhiye(water)
4. Daud- O bhavre, Shabba shabba
5. Rang de basanthi-All songs.
6. Some tamil songs.. also in the list. a way long list... NEVER ENDING ;-)

Enjoy these songs atleast once.. u'll surely appreciate me.One tip: To like
ARR songs listen to it for 10 to 15 times in a single day continuously..
You'll then know( Infact "FEEL") how i "feel"..

regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Chord]

In my opinion, the personal, soft nature of the songs of ARR nicely
complemented and created a nice counterpoint to the grandeur and
exhibitionist nature of the film.  JA was centrally about romance
between J and A, so the movie really did need soft, personal songs.  I
agree that the qawali should have been left in to make for a more
complete score.  To me, it was not at all congruent, just a nice
contrast which the movie uniquely dynamic.  ARR experimented in
counterpoint with RDB's BGM as well and has talked a lot about it.  


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Chord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You also said that ARR's music was an absolute failure.  Now, you're
> backstepping.  If the music and film went in completely different
> directions as you clain, wouldn't be the movie have been a complete
> flop and ARR getting flogged left and right?  Hmm.
> 
> 
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat  wrote:
> >
> > On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> > 
> > > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > > in JA in interviews.  Why would he lie?  To be politically correct? 
> > 
> > That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of 
> > understanding people go with.
> > 
> > I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was
> personal 
> > sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
> > 
> > So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
> > 
> > And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the 
> > exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music
> for it.
> > 
> > I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies
> are 
> > all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
> > 
> > I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the
tone 
> > of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by
me. 
> > It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the
movie was 
> > released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times
and 
> > seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that
you all 
> > talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that
movie 
> > is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
> > 
> > That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group.
> Just 
> > praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
> > 
> > > Please.  The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that
9/10
> > > families who I know from various parts of India say that the
music of
> > > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > > one of the best albums in bollywood recently.  Sales don't lie
either
> > > as this album has done very well commercially. 
> > 
> > People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they 
> > loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better 
> > than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are 
> > miles behind the level of ARR's music.
> > 
> > Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales 
> > charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth, 
> > Water, etc. were commercially flop.
> > 
> > > ARR purposely wanted to
> > > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam, 
> > 
> > I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something
different. 
> > :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
> > 
> > > a type of
> > > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > > movie.  
> > 
> > I can believe this too.
> > 
> > And he succeeded.
> > 
> > JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any
period 
> > movie.
> > 
> > but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
> > 
> > > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > > time.  
> > 
> > Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you
> punctured 
> > it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote
> was a 
> > suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
> > 
> > You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your
mails nor 
> > replying to you.
> > 
> > so i stop here.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Love live JA's music.  It's one of my all time favorites.  Your
> > > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small
> minority.   
> > 
> > -- 
> > V
> >
>

Re: [arr] Re: Attn Gops / Vijay /Vithur : Child artist who worked for A R Rahman

[Indmov Buff]

That is quite a list. It would be nice to be able to document these e-mails and 
put them in some sort of a database. 

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Ganesh Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Ganesh Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Re: Attn Gops / Vijay /Vithur : Child artist who worked for A R 
Rahman
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 3:05 PM











Child Artistes who have sung for Rahman



Baby Pooja

1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades



Shwetha Mohan

1. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka

2. Acham Acham Illai - Indira

Have heard that she has also done harmony for Bombaymite be in

Kuchi Kuchi Rakma

Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.



Aditya Narayan

1. Rangeela re - Rangeela

2. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka

3. Kahin Aag Lage - Taal



G.V.Prakash

Hindi

1. Kuchi Kuchi Rakhma - Bombay

2. Chor Chor- Chor Chor

3. Love You Hameshaa - Love You Hamesha

4. Phoolwali Ne Loota Mujhko - Muthu Maharaja

5. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka

6. Kuch Bhi Na Socho - Bombay



Tamil

1. Chikkupukku â€" Gentleman

2. Acham Illai - Indira

3. Palakkaatu Machanukku â€" May Maatham

4. Madrasa Suthi â€" May Maadham

5. Kuluvaalile Muthu - Muthu

6. Kaathu kathu Thinam - Uzhavan

7. Maarlmazha Peyyado - Uzhavan

8. Kuchi Kuchi Rakkama - Bombay

9. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay



Master Vignesh

1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades



Esther

1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira

Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.



Saranya

1. Alangatti Mazhai - Thenali



Sharadha

1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira

2. Kuchi Kuchi rakma - Bombay

3. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay

4. Kuch Bhi naa Socha - Bombay

Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.



Kanathil Mutthamittaal

Kids Chorus: K.Vidhya, R.Priya, M.Madhumitha, Charulatha, Mani,

Subhiksha, Hari Prashanth, Ajish Ashok



Udhaya

Kids Chorus: Madhumita, Subhiksha Rangarajan, Vidya, Priya,

Kedharnath, Haricharan



Lagaan

Kids Harmony: Madhumita, Subhiksha, Vidya, Priya, Kedharnath,

Haricharan, Abhinas 



Mangal Pandey

Kids Chorus : Raheema, Khatija, Darvesh, Leon, Puja & Vaishnavi



Pukar

Kids Chorus : K Vidya, R Survihi, R Priya, Subhiksha Rangarajan 



Regards,

Ganesh



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "n_farsad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:

>

> Hi Gops/Vijay/Vithur and all Rahmaniacs,

> 

> Today I got a call from POGO TV. One Mr Duo called me and inquired for

> the child artist who performed for A R Rahman. Actually, they came

> across the blog www.rahmaniac. co.nr and called me to inquire this. They

> are conducting "Amazing Kids Awards", so they want to give out awards

> who sang for A R Rahman. The age is between 4 - 14 years and the last

> day to send nominations is 30th July.

> 

> Hope the moderators Gopal / Vijay / Vithur or Rahmaniac could shed some

> light on this. Can you please tell me who are the Child Artist who

> worked for A R Rahman. The channel people think that the children who

> got a chance to work with Rahman will be an absolute talent . So that

> they want to give out the awards to them.

> 

> Hope someone could help me on this.  Looking forward for your reply.

> 

> Best regards,

> Farzad

> www.rahmaniac. co.nr

>




  




 

















  

Re: [arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[Vithur]

Pirated Versions of Delhi Concert is available

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Sanju U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
> Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
>
> I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
> Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
> Where can I find it.
>
> Thanks,
> Sanjay
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

[arr] Ringtones in Wikipedia

[Vithur]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._R._Rahman_discography#Ringtones

Wikipedia says that there are some ringtones composed by ARR...

could anyone throw some light on that... Where to get them... Am seeing this
for the first time

-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] marudani...ARR/Madhushree magic...awesome

[Indmov Buff]

Precisely! If ever there was a best humming award, it's got to be that! It just 
pulls you into the song and emotion!Lovely

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] marudani...ARR/Madhushree magic...awesome
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:18 PM











Nah, his humming in Neem Neem is far more passionate.



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

>

> I think ARR bettered himself far far far more in Marudhani humming 

> compared to Neem Neem.

> 

> Marudhani's humming is extempore, spontaneous, straight from the heart, 

> so involved, so deep, such a passion, as a man possessed is bursting

out 

> humming, not able to contain what he was feeling, probably not even 

> knowing that the humming that was always going on there in his heart

and 

> mind has come to his lips. The soft ups and downs of humming add more 

> beauty to it.

> 

> This humming would be the best rendering of ARR.

> 

> --

> V

> 

> On 7/19/2008 7:16 AM India Time, _Arijit Debnath_ wrote:

> 

> > Again Rahman created magic with Marudani...

> > The chemistry between Madhushree and Rahman is infectious.. . reminds 

> > Rahman's humming at Neem song...

> >  

> > But sometimes I am feeling the whole song could have been filled with 

> > the magical humming by Rahman... what a piece in mind this man

never 

> > stop surprising.. .

> >  

> > Arijit

>




  




 

















  

Re: [arr] Chief Minister’s request for A.R. Rahman

[shahul hameed]

Media quoted Rahman visited CM regarding KM music conservatory.. now an
entirely different scenario.. so we need to wait n watch..

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 6:36 PM, r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> if this works out ...nothing like it !!
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [arr] Chief Minister's request for A.R. Rahman
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:16 PM
>
>  Chief Minister Kalainyar Karunanidhi had hit the bull's eyes with his
> stupendous works with his recent flick Uliyin Osai. The film is successfully
> doing well among the masses and now, he has kick-started with his next
> project titled 'Ponner-Shankar' . The film has Prashanth donning dual roles
> and it's a historic period movie about brave brothers raising their voices
> against the colonial domination.
>
> Chief Minister M.Karunanidhi had personally invited A.R. Rahman to his
> residence. Sources close to him have stated that he has requested Rahman to
> score music for this film. Kalainyar had watched period films like Lagaan,
> Mangal Pandey and got enthralled with Rahman's musical score.
>
> Now, Rahman has almost accepted to score music for the film and things
> would be confirmed sooner….
>  http://www.kollywoo dtoday.com/ news/chief- ministers- request-for-
> ar-rahman/
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>
>
>  
>

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[shahul hameed]

Oops.. yes its Soundarya.. I recently read an article on Aishwarya
Rajnikanth so I typed on her name.. :D

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   BTW, it wasnt Aishwarya Rajnikanth Its Soundarya Rajnikanth, who is
> the MD of Ocher Studio, and who is doing Sultan the warrrior. Aishwarya
> Rajnikanth is married to Dhanush, and leading a very peaceful life . ( LOL )
>
>
> For replying to Rawat ,
>
> Shantanoo Bhagyaraj is the son of director cum actor Bhagyaraj who had done
> a lot of movies in Tamil in yester years. This is Shantanoo 's debut , and
> he is very fortunate to be associated with ARR, in his debutant movie
> itself..
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of
>> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
>>
>> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
>>
>> thanks.
>> --
>> V
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
>>
>> > Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they haven'tmessed up
>>
>> > big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
>> >
>> > --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed /<[EMAIL 
>> > PROTECTED]>/*
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>> > Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"
>> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
>> >
>> > The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
>> > how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the graphics.. Good
>> > numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
>> > again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
>> > justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
>> > Graphics.. ;o)
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Vithur
>
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>  
>

[arr] ARR's Concert CD/DVDs Release

[Sanju U]

Hi,
   
  Can someone please tell me the ARR's Concert's CD/DVDs Release till date?
   
  I have bought DVD for ARR's LA and Dubai's concert.
  Was the DVD for ARRs Delhi concert(2008) released?
  Where can I find it.
   
  Thanks,
Sanjay

   

[arr] Re: AR Rahman's different efforts for Marmayogi

[sath.murthy]

Sorry abt the link i posted earlier. it didnt come properly, so i am
trying to post it again.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2008/07/18-rahman-differe\
nt-efforts-for-marmayogi.html


Kamal's take on the MY.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/heroes/2008/07/19-marmayogi-will-ma\
ke-history-says-kamal.html


ARR in Ponnar Shankar

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2008/07/19-rahman-to-compo\
se-for-ponnar-shankar.html


Sath.




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "sath.murthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> ARR plans to have different music instruments from Latin America for
> Kamal's Marmayogi. ARR has mentioned that he only know one liner for
> the film, but he said that it is a totally different film so he want
to
> give a different and unique music for the film.
>
> http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2008/07/18-rahman-
> different-efforts-for-marmayogi.html
>
>
> Sath.
>

Re: [arr] Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer

[r arvind]

Music by ARR is THE MAIN reason for pushing the Movie to be a BIG Hit ARR 


--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:10 PM











Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer






July 19, 2008 6:02:19 PM IST
Joginder Tuteja, Bollywood Trade News Network

 










view JAANE TU YA JAANE NA 
movie stills
JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has turned out to be a blockbuster at the box office. Not 
just that, it has also created a record for Imran Khan who now has the biggest 
grosser to his credit when it comes to a debut film. 

Sustaining itself brilliantly with increased number of prints in its second 
week, the film has barely shown a fall in collections and collected another 17 
crores at the box office. This brings its two week total to more than 37 crores 
which leaves behind the collections of all those blockbusters/ super hits in 
the last couple of decades which featured newcomers. 


The films that we are talking about are KAHO NAA...PYAAR HAI, MAINE PYAAR KIYA, 
QAYAMAT SE QAYAMAT TAK and ISHQ VISHK - each of which had it's main lead being 
seen in a lead role (in a commercial set-up) for the first time. Hrithik 
Roshan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, Shahid Kapoor - each of them had a great kick 
start to their career when the aforementioned films went on to be huge hits. 
The collections for these films (incidentally all of them belonged to romantic 
genre) were huge and turned the actors into a household name. 


The same has now happened for Imran Khan for whom JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has 
turned out to be a great beginning. Collections speak for themselves as 37 
crores in just two weeks is far more than what any debutant leading hero has 
enjoyed in the past. 


With 50 crores collections being a given for this Abbas Tyrewala film, it now 
has to be seen whether the film goes on to top 60 crores, a benchmark set by 
the two biggest grossers of 2008 so far - RACE and JODHAA AKBAR!


http://www.glamsham .com/movies/ scoops/08/ jul/19-blockbust er-jtyjn- 
biggest-ever- success-for- a-070807. asp


-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always 

  




 

















  

Re: [arr] Chief Minister’s request for A.R. Rahman

[r arvind]

if this works out ...nothing like it !!

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [arr] Chief Minister’s request for A.R. Rahman
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:16 PM











Chief Minister Kalainyar Karunanidhi had hit the bull's eyes with 
his stupendous works with his recent flick Uliyin Osai. The film is 
successfully doing well among the masses and now, he has kick-started with his 
next project titled 'Ponner-Shankar' . The film has Prashanth donning dual 
roles and it's a historic period movie about brave brothers raising their 
voices against the colonial domination.

Chief Minister M.Karunanidhi had personally invited A.R. Rahman to his 
residence. Sources close to him have stated that he has requested Rahman to 
score music for this film. Kalainyar had watched period films like Lagaan, 
Mangal Pandey and got enthralled with Rahman's musical score.

Now, Rahman has almost accepted to score music for the film and things would be 
confirmed sooner….




http://www.kollywoo dtoday.com/ news/chief- ministers- request-for- ar-rahman/

-- 
regards,
Vithur


ARR -- The Sweet Cube always 

  




 

















  

Re: [arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Vithur]

Gopal, Vijay. Pls intervene... Fight is becoming really bad Peace
Love Happiness is needed

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Some guys here label critics as anti-ARR, but most don't and not I.
> JA was a quality movie with great songs and great acting. It wasn't
> perfect. I thought it was too long amongst other complaints I had.
> It was well appreciated and will be considered fondly over time. Just
> because you don't agree doesn't mean you are right and the rest of us
> are wrong.
>
> --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com , V S
> Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/19/2008 5:36 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> >
> > > I think ARR's songs have some of the best picturization and treatment
> > > with Ashutosh's films. I want ARR and Ashutosh to continue together.
> > > They make a great team. And if JA was indeed a "shit, purposeless
> > > movie" as you say, it wouldn't have labeled a box office hit and
> > > garnered good reviews from most critics. Ashutosh is one of India's
> > > finest directors.
> >
> > Should I give the list of major movies that were box office hits during
> > the last 30 or 10 years.
> >
> > And critics? When anybody writes a bad thing about movie/ music, guys
> > here are prompt to label that critic Anti-ARR.
> >
> > --
> > V
> >
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[Vithur]

I feeel its the directors, with whom ARR usually interacts much, except
for Senior Artists like RAJNI, KAMAL...

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dhruv Shenoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Friends,
>
>We have seen ARR working with many superstars like SRK,
> Aamir, Salman, Hrithik and Abhishek(junior). We havent seen Amitabh
> Bachchan but he atleast gave voice over in JA and Lagaan . Even in Tamil
> film industry we had seen ARR working with Rajni, Kamal, Vijay, Surya etc.
> But there is one more superstar ARR has never worked with :Akshay
> Kumar. Akshay who gave back to back hits last year has worked with almost
> all MDs of bollywood SEL,Anu Malik, Himesh, Pritam, Vishal-Shekhar (Tashan).
> Even in the past he has worked with many MDs like Nadeem Shravan, Viju Shah
> etc. But till now we havent seen any collaberation between ARR and Akshay
> Kumar. *But in future we might see both of them in upcoming film BLUE(100
> crores film) *.
>
> Source:* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_%282008_film%29#Music***
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] Other than JTJYN, which movies of ARR had song(s) added/ deleted after release?

[Tapey3]

Kumbakonam from Aa Aah was not in the film initially.  I think it was
added later.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You should find it on Youtube.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   On 7/19/2008 12:26 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote:
> >
> > > Pal Pal hai bhari was deleted after a few of days of release
from swades.
> > > Ahistha ahistha made it only on the DVDs.
> >
> > Was Pal Pal deleted? I wonder. It was a climax song and a lot of
stories
> > goes around that song. It would have spoiled the sequence if it was
> > deleted. may be it was deleted in some countries where religious songs
> > are not allowed.
> >
> > And, was Ahistha Ahistha on the DVD? my god, never knew that.
Thanks for
> > sharing. Someone please post the link of the video of this song. I
have
> > to see it. And, I had seen the movie in theatre so I had made the due
> > payment then, and these marketing gimmicks to make me pay double
are not
> > at all fair. So I think owner/ moderator would allow the request for
> > such deleted songs/ scenes videos, as an exception. :-) he he he.
> >
> > --
> > V
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:03 AM, V S Rawat
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Any idea if there were other movies of ARR, before JTJTN, in which
> > > songs
> > > were added/ deleted after the initial release?
> > >
> > > --
> > > V
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

[Vinayakam Murugan]

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:07 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There are several songs of ARR in which video added to the beauty of
> songs. Video rather explained the real scenario and give a perspective
> to the song.

I have had many experiences to the contrary also.

>
> I remember the disappointment members had felt in this list listening to
> the Rukhi Sukhi Roti of Nayakan. It sounded so rough, so unpolished, so
> raw - almost bare, naked, ugly - in the first hearings.
>
> but then the video came and Shankar's magic rode the head of all music
> lovers and the the song instantly became likeable.
>
> RDB's Luka Chhupi also sounded so overly emotive with bad voices of both
> Lata and ARR.

There you go again. :):)

In my opinion, Luka Chupi is a masterpiece. I didn't need the video to
explain the situation to me. The song clearly talks about a son
singing to his mother so everybody knew that it is about a son and
mother.

> but then the video came and it touched everybody's heart in an instant.
> Eyes went wet listening to it, seeing it. Lata's voice sounded 100%
> perfectly appropriate for an old, grieving mother.
>
> So, may be Elay is also in that genre that a video might explain the
> exact scene sequence in which the song would appear appropriate and
> perfect. Lyrics wise, this song already appears a visionary song, a
> manifesto for the new-age youth, a "message" song.
>
> previously, I liked this social awareness part in Mehboob's lyrics. He
> always put something referring to the current day-to-day real life and
> gave some message. I liked that effect very much, say, as in Urvashi's
> last paragraph. bhalai aurato ki kranti ke bina nahin hogi, etc.

That was a direct word to word translation of Vairamuthu's lyrics. Hum
Se hai Muqabla was P.K. Mishra

> Seems this lyricist is furthering what Mehboob had started. All praises
> to the two, and to ARR for bringing such lyrics.

I am not sure ARR plays a great role in the lyrics except whether it
fits in the meter. The director would probably play a major role.

> --
> V


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak
http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/



Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai
chal rahit vyahvar mera

Harivanshrai Bacchan
-

Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI

[|| V i s h w e s h ||]

6 times... 0:11, 0:34, 0:44, 2:49, 4:43.

At 2:49, it starts from both left & right channels, one after another... with 
just a split second of difference between the two...

" The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman -

--- On Sat, 19/7/08, zlksru suresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: zlksru suresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 2:51 PM











two

--- On Sat, 19/7/08, Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in> wrote:

From: Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in>
Subject: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 1:22 PM






Hi alll..
 
A small trivia for u all folks.
Can anyone tell the number of times the sound of Taxi Engine start
heard in TAXI TAXI song?
 
Bye
Loganandh 

  
  
  
  




 




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[arr] Sorry abt the post Re: kabhi kabhi Aditi inspired by Bee Gee's Staying Alive???

[sath.murthy]

Thanks for understanding.

Sath.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Reformed Sinner" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sath - you seem to be die hard fan of ARR.
> 
> Its a pity some fellow Rahmaniacs misunderstood your earlier mail. 
You never
> meant to start any controversy. Its just that there are lots of 
people
> posting nowadays who want to find fault with the music, so our guys 
would
> have mistaken you for one of them!
> 
> Cheers, RS
> 
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:26 AM, sath.murthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> >   Hello Friends,
> >
> > Sorry that i started off on a wrong note here.
> >
> > As i mentioned before i am a very hard and loyal fan of ARR. I 
spend
> > close to an hour or two reading the articles about ARR, I also go
> > through various websites to read any article about him. When i 
was in
> > college, and whenever our ARR casettes hit the shop, i went so 
early
> > in the morning to grab the first copy and kept on listening it. I
> > used keep my sound system volume so high, so that the entire 
street
> > can hear our thalaivar songs. Till i came to US, i had a big
> > collection of all his album casettes, and after coming here i 
rely on
> > the online music.
> >
> > I can go on and on about this, but no one can question my loyality
> > towards ARR, i guess that i dont need to prove anyone regarding 
this.
> >
> > All i asked was the opinion of you guys about the comparison of 
those
> > songs and i think my post also clearly states that. I never made a
> > conclusion and i just wanted to make sure the said comment was 
false
> > by all means. I listened to both the songs around 10 to 15 times
> > before posting that message.
> >
> > I dont know that i check my emails that often, but i do check this
> > yahoo group so many times every day.
> >
> > As soon as i read or hear any film or album that associates with 
ARR,
> > i feel so excited and happy and i dont have the right words to
> > express those.
> >
> > Even my 6 yr old son hears ARR's music everyday along with me. He
> > loves Taxi Taxi as of now, before he loved kabhi kabhi and jaane 
tu
> > kya hai from JTYJN and ishq ada from ADA.
> >
> > Thanks guys.
> >
> > I love being ARR's fan.
> > Sath.
> >
> > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "Vikash Beelatoo"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Checked it out. Sure, there's a comment in the third link abt 
this
> > > supposed rip off. But I checked the Staying Alive song as well. 
LOL.
> > > One must be really stupid to believe that Kabhi Kabhi Aditi was
> > ripped
> > > off from that song. Leave alone a rip-off, there's not even a 
remote
> > > similarity between the two songs.
> > >
> > > TO ALL THOSE POSTING SUCH MESSAGES (Not directed towards Sath):
> > Please
> > > stop posting such messages in the group. You're only ridiculing
> > > yourself by making evident your high levels of immaturity and
> > stupidity!
> > >
> > > A TRUE RAHMAN FAN WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE DARED TO QUESTION THE 
BOSS'
> > > INTEGRITY!
> > >
> > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "sath.murthy" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was watching the video of Kabhi Kabhi Aditi form JTYJN, i
> > happened to
> > > > read one of the comments mentioned there, that the Kabhi Kabhi
> > song has
> > > > been ripped from Bee Gee's Staying Alive song.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKo7Tf5YBQ is the link.
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuebK6SzEfA&feature=related
> > (another
> > > > link)
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6_fkev7z8 is the kabhi kabhi
> > link.
> > > > I am a very hard fan of ARR from day one of his entrance to
> > films. I
> > > > had plenty of fights with my friends regd our thalaivar's 
music.
> > Please
> > > > don't take me in a wrong way for posting this.
> > > >
> > > > Sath.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 3:47 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:

> 
> P.S: I was also a bit surprised when you mentioned Deva and Harris 
> Jeyeraj in one of yuor previous e-mails. How doyou know these chaps? 
>  From what I understood earlier (when the there were scores of e-mails 
> of how you were of the opinion that Vairamuthu should write a few lines 
> in Hindi to prove his worth else his talents are wasted or something to 
> that effect you also did mention that you’ve never listened to any songs 
> other than hindi. So the surprise when you mentioned Deva HJ etc.
> 

I had mentioned Deva and Athish Uthiriyan in context of that Good 
Morning Tamilnadu, and some others in different threads.

I didn't mention Harris recently but he has done hindi films also so I 
know about him.

I heard Sakkarakatti. Not the first tamil album that I heard, some 4-5-6 
years ago, I had tried hearing several Tamil/ Telugu albums of ARR but 
in the days of cassette player, all that rewind/forward, change cassette 
side was not convenient and it were analog and speakers. Now, on PC, 
non-stop with a microphone and digital audio, Marudhani did the trick.

It is one of the best songs of ARR and I am in love with it. I 
translated lyrics to hindi (from english) and that gave me some idea of 
what they are saying and Elay is great lyrics wise. Taxi Taxi has catchy 
beats, Miss u da is seductive. Good album.

I still think if Marudhani had not been in it, I might not have listened 
to this album so much, but sometimes I heard only marudhani non-stop, 
but sometimes I ended up hearing to all - due to wrong button pressed 
:-) and the songs showed their beauty.

And then, several members mentioned Marudhani genre of songs and I heard 
to Mayilirege, Munbe va, Sahana/ Sahara, Alle Alle, Yedo yedo, anarkali, 
and some more.

These were good, but odd that Marudhani is far better even to 
Mayilirege, Munbe va, Sahana/ Sahara. Probably that is the pain one has 
to go through when he chances upon the best song early.

I am hearing other albums also one by one. Major dissappoints are the 
ones like Alli Arjuna which had reused songs from many hindi albums, but 
it is ok.

Vairamuthu issue still remains unresolved. Not understanding Tamil, I 
wouldn't be able to appreciate his poetry, and if it comes to english 
hindi translations, I have already heard Latka Jhatka, aurat bhi na 
chhodoonga, telephone dhun and such shabby translations.

Having waited for new ARR releases for months and years so many times in 
last 16-18 years, hearing to tamil ones suddenly presented a lot of ARR 
songs which were unheard for me till now. So a treasure is with me and I 
am enjoying that.

-- 
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[arr] Food Distribution tomorrow

[Vithur]

Food Distribution tomorrow Dear Brothers, Sisters

Our brother Karthik and his music troupe have been spending so much of time
and hard work in composing music for the forthcoming Independence Day
Celebrations. I feel, we should be a part of it, and so, lets meet up in
Karthik 's Residence tomorrow. i.,e. CIT Nagar , Saidapet

>From there, we shall do food distribution to nearby places and cover CIT
Nagar tomorrow.

After the distribution, we can enjoy a musical session from Karthik and
team.

Will that be Ok.


-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[shahul hameed]

CG adds beauty when done with perfection.. I always admire CG in Shankar's
films but others havn't utilized CG to perfection.. Btw I was referring to
the same Mayilirage from Anbe Aaruyire..

Bhagyaraj is the father of the hero and his association with Sakkarakatti
ends just there..

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:30 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of
> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
>
> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
>
> thanks.
> --
> V
>
> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
>
> > Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they haven'tmessed up
> > big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
> >
> > --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed /<[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>/*
> wrote:
> >
> > From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
> >
> > The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
> > how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the graphics.. Good
> > numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
> > again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
> > justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
> > Graphics.. ;o)
>
>  
>

[arr] Re: Attn Gops / Vijay /Vithur : Child artist who worked for A R Rahman

[Ganesh Narayanan]

Child Artistes who have sung for Rahman

Baby Pooja
1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades

Shwetha Mohan
1. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
2. Acham Acham Illai - Indira
Have heard that she has also done harmony for Bombaymite be in
Kuchi Kuchi Rakma
Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.

Aditya Narayan
1. Rangeela re - Rangeela
2. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
3. Kahin Aag Lage - Taal

G.V.Prakash
Hindi
1. Kuchi Kuchi Rakhma - Bombay
2. Chor Chor- Chor Chor
3. Love You Hameshaa - Love You Hamesha
4. Phoolwali Ne Loota Mujhko - Muthu Maharaja
5. Yeh jaati paati kaisi - Priyanka
6. Kuch Bhi Na Socho - Bombay

Tamil
1. Chikkupukku â€" Gentleman
2. Acham Illai - Indira
3. Palakkaatu Machanukku â€" May Maatham
4. Madrasa Suthi â€" May Maadham
5. Kuluvaalile Muthu - Muthu
6. Kaathu kathu Thinam - Uzhavan
7. Maarlmazha Peyyado - Uzhavan
8. Kuchi Kuchi Rakkama - Bombay
9. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay

Master Vignesh
1. Yeh Tara Woh Tara - Swades

Esther
1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira
Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.

Saranya
1. Alangatti Mazhai - Thenali

Sharadha
1. Acham Acham Illai â€" Indira
2. Kuchi Kuchi rakma - Bombay
3. Poovukenna Pottu - Bombay
4. Kuch Bhi naa Socha - Bombay
Also done Childrens Chorus in Iruvar.

Kanathil Mutthamittaal
Kids Chorus: K.Vidhya, R.Priya, M.Madhumitha, Charulatha, Mani,
Subhiksha, Hari Prashanth, Ajish Ashok

Udhaya
Kids Chorus: Madhumita, Subhiksha Rangarajan, Vidya, Priya,
Kedharnath, Haricharan

Lagaan
Kids Harmony: Madhumita, Subhiksha, Vidya, Priya, Kedharnath,
Haricharan, Abhinas 

Mangal Pandey
Kids Chorus : Raheema, Khatija, Darvesh, Leon, Puja & Vaishnavi

Pukar
Kids Chorus : K Vidya, R Survihi, R Priya, Subhiksha Rangarajan 


Regards,
Ganesh


 
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "n_farsad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Gops/Vijay/Vithur and all Rahmaniacs,
> 
> Today I got a call from POGO TV. One Mr Duo called me and inquired for
> the child artist who performed for A R Rahman. Actually, they came
> across the blog www.rahmaniac.co.nr and called me to inquire this. They
> are conducting "Amazing Kids Awards", so they want to give out awards
> who sang for A R Rahman. The age is between 4 - 14 years and the last
> day to send nominations is 30th July.
> 
> Hope the moderators Gopal / Vijay / Vithur or Rahmaniac could shed some
> light on this. Can you please tell me who are the Child Artist who
> worked for A R Rahman. The channel people think that the children who
> got a chance to work with Rahman will be an absolute talent . So that
> they want to give out the awards to them.
> 
> Hope someone could help me on this.  Looking forward for your reply.
> 
> Best regards,
> Farzad
> www.rahmaniac.co.nr
>

Re: [arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 3:47 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:

> Rawat, I agree on one point with you. Mani brings out the best in Rahman 
> (IMO). But that doesn't mean Ashutosh doesn't. He's my second fav 
> director in terms of bringing out Rahman's magic. His approach to cinema 
> is different to Mani's. Mani's movies are realistic, emotional and the 
> sort that touch you deep down inside, some way or the other but 
> Ashutosh's are a bit more poetic and he is happier (and probably more 
> comfortable) taking some cinematic liberties whilst making his movies. I 
> like that he does that.
> 
> My fav soundtrack has always been Roja. I've liked and listened to each 
> and every track a zillion times from a very young age and each time, I 
> have butterflies in my stomach. But if asked for my top 5 tracks there 
> will def be 1 from JA and 1 from Swades. 

You are absolutely correct. Songs were good.

> Given that Ashutosh has done 
> only 3 movies with Rahman and the soundtracks so far have been all well 
> received by the majority of moviegoers itself says something. Tell me 
> one thing; you didn't like Yeh Jo Desh from Swades? You didn't like 
> Jashn-e-baharaan from JA? 

I liked all songs of Swades.

I liked all songs of Lagaan.

I liked Jashnebahara, Lamhon ke daaman and Khwaja of JA.

> Swades didn't do well at the BO but it's one 
> of my fav hindi movies of all time.

Now you are talking about the movie. Previously you were talking about 
the music. They are two different things.

Hope you notice this switch you are making - from music to movie, that 
is causing all the confusion in several posts of so many members in this 
  thread.

Let me clarify. I said JA music and JA movie went in different 
directions, and the grandeur of JA movie drowned (and downed) the soft 
songs of JA. The songs - at least the three that I mentioned above, i 
find good.

There was no such difference in Lagaan the music and lagaan the movie.

There was no such difference in Swades the music and Swades the movie.

Lagaan and Swades music fitted well in Lagaan and Swades Movies.

Hope that it is clear now that I am not letting down the music of these 
three movies, nor I am finding anything wrong in Lagaan and Swades 
movies. But JA is a confused movie.

And the last example, JA music was as out of sync with JA movie as 
Azeemoshaan Shahanshaah song and its scene would have been if it had 
been fitted somehow in Lagaan or Swades music or movie.

> It could have been better but it's 
> still pretty solid. I think from the replies that you've had for this 
> thread you'd gather that there is a lot of support for the ARR_Ashutosh 
> combo.  Of course you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that 
> but you are the first Mani fan I’ve known who doesn’t like AG’s work. 
> Very interesting.

AG likes ARR's music himself and that is clear from the good treatments 
he had given to all songs in Lagaan and Swades. Only in JA, he lost that 
  connection and ended up getting a music from ARR that didn't fit his 
fim and songs went unnoticed in the film.

Nice to see a detailed, factual, analytical reply at last. This is the 
real discussion that would strengthen this list. Thanks for it.

-- 
V




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Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Pradeepan R]

Rawat,
Your quote "Didn't he know that period movies are
all vocal, loud, exhibitionist."

ARR is one hell of a thinker - & keeps trying to do things differently..

whatever be the case, saying that AG-ARR combo is not good is ridiculous..
AG knows exactly what a musical movie is all about & ARR loves those kind of
directors.

And JA Music, BGM were awesome !!! to say the least.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:09 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
>
> > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > in JA in interviews. Why would he lie? To be politically correct?
>
> That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of
> understanding people go with.
>
> I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was personal
> sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
>
> So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
>
> And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the
> exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music for it.
>
> I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies are
> all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
>
> I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone
> of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me.
> It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the movie was
> released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and
> seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that you all
> talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that movie
> is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
>
> That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group. Just
> praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
>
> > Please. The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10
> > families who I know from various parts of India say that the music of
> > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > one of the best albums in bollywood recently. Sales don't lie either
> > as this album has done very well commercially.
>
> People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they
> loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better
> than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are
> miles behind the level of ARR's music.
>
> Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales
> charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth,
> Water, etc. were commercially flop.
>
> > ARR purposely wanted to
> > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam,
>
> I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something different.
> :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
>
> > a type of
> > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > movie.
>
> I can believe this too.
>
> And he succeeded.
>
> JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period
> movie.
>
> but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
>
> > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > time.
>
> Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you punctured
> it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote was a
> suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
>
> You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your mails nor
> replying to you.
>
> so i stop here.
>
> >
> > Love live JA's music. It's one of my all time favorites. Your
> > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small minority.
>
> --
> V
>
>  
>



-- 
Cheers,
Pradeepan.

"All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you
!"

Re: [arr] Other than JTJYN, which movies of ARR had song(s) added/ deleted after release?

[V S Rawat]

On 7/19/2008 4:11 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote:

> You should find it on Youtube.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9ouEMMAxtE

The above has Ahista Ahista.

Enjoy.
--
V

> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> On 7/19/2008 12:26 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote:
> 
>  > Pal Pal hai bhari was deleted after a few of days of release from
> swades.
>  > Ahistha ahistha made it only on the DVDs.
> 
> Was Pal Pal deleted? I wonder. It was a climax song and a lot of
> stories
> goes around that song. It would have spoiled the sequence if it was
> deleted. may be it was deleted in some countries where religious songs
> are not allowed.
> 
> And, was Ahistha Ahistha on the DVD? my god, never knew that. Thanks
> for
> sharing. Someone please post the link of the video of this song. I have
> to see it. And, I had seen the movie in theatre so I had made the due
> payment then, and these marketing gimmicks to make me pay double are
> not
> at all fair. So I think owner/ moderator would allow the request for
> such deleted songs/ scenes videos, as an exception. :-) he he he.
> 
> --
> V
> 
> 
> 
>  >
>  >
>  > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:03 AM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  > >> wrote:
>  >
>  > Any idea if there were other movies of ARR, before JTJTN, in which
>  > songs
>  > were added/ deleted after the initial release?
>  >
>  > --
>  > V

[arr] Chief Minister’s request for A.R. Rahman

[Vithur]

Chief Minister Kalainyar Karunanidhi had hit the bull's eyes with his
stupendous works with his recent flick Uliyin Osai. The film is successfully
doing well among the masses and now, he has kick-started with his next
project titled 'Ponner-Shankar'. The film has Prashanth donning dual roles
and it's a historic period movie about brave brothers raising their voices
against the colonial domination.

Chief Minister M.Karunanidhi had personally invited A.R. Rahman to his
residence. Sources close to him have stated that he has requested Rahman to
score music for this film. Kalainyar had watched period films like Lagaan,
Mangal Pandey and got enthralled with Rahman's musical score.

Now, Rahman has almost accepted to score music for the film and things would
be confirmed sooner….
  http://www.kollywoodtoday.com/news/chief-ministers-request-for-ar-rahman/

-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

[arr] Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer

[Vithur]

Blockbuster JTYJN - Biggest ever success for a newcomer
--
  July 19, 2008 6:02:19 PM IST
Joginder Tuteja, Bollywood Trade News Network
[image: Send to
Friend]

[image: view JAANE TU YA JAANE NA movie
stills]

*view JAANE TU YA JAANE NA
movie stills *
JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has turned out to be a blockbuster at the box office.
Not just that, it has also created a record for Imran Khan who now has the
biggest grosser to his credit when it comes to a debut film.

Sustaining itself brilliantly with increased number of prints in its second
week, the film has barely shown a fall in collections and collected another
17 crores at the box office. This brings its two week total to more than 37
crores which leaves behind the collections of all those blockbusters/super
hits in the last couple of decades which featured newcomers.

The films that we are talking about are KAHO NAA...PYAAR HAI, MAINE PYAAR
KIYA, QAYAMAT SE QAYAMAT TAK and ISHQ VISHK - each of which had it's main
lead being seen in a lead role (in a commercial set-up) for the first time.
Hrithik Roshan, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, Shahid Kapoor - each of them had a
great kick start to their career when the aforementioned films went on to be
huge hits. The collections for these films (incidentally all of them
belonged to romantic genre) were huge and turned the actors into a household
name.

The same has now happened for Imran Khan for whom JAANE TU YA JAANE NAA has
turned out to be a great beginning. Collections speak for themselves as 37
crores in just two weeks is far more than what any debutant leading hero has
enjoyed in the past.

With 50 crores collections being a given for this Abbas Tyrewala film, it
now has to be seen whether the film goes on to top 60 crores, a benchmark
set by the two biggest grossers of 2008 so far - RACE and JODHAA AKBAR!

http://www.glamsham.com/movies/scoops/08/jul/19-blockbuster-jtyjn-biggest-ever-success-for-a-070807.asp

-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] Thank God ! ARR composing for Ashutosh's WYR !

[Vithur]

Life is a Challenge MEET It All the best Rawat. God Bless :-)

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:15 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 7/19/2008 9:24 AM India Time, _Dinesh Vaidya_ wrote:
>
> >
> > Regarding someone mentioning that this group is for ARR fans, or say
> > RAHMANIACs alone, I agree with that statement totally. For those who
> > are habbitual to voice disappointment, can form another group.
>
> NO WAY.
>
> those who can't tolerate criticism should go and form another group
> ARRAHMAN_FANATICS
>
> >
> > This Yahoo group is FOR my GURU AR Rahman and atlest I am not a
> > disciple who would read nonsense about my Guruji or his music.
>
> I promise to post a lot of constructive criticism of his music and film.
> Suit yourself how you would like to handle that.
>
> >
> > Best regards
> > Dinesh Vaidya
> > Pune
>
> --
> V
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[Vithur]

BTW, it wasnt Aishwarya Rajnikanth Its Soundarya Rajnikanth, who is the
MD of Ocher Studio, and who is doing Sultan the warrrior. Aishwarya
Rajnikanth is married to Dhanush, and leading a very peaceful life . ( LOL )


For replying to Rawat ,

Shantanoo Bhagyaraj is the son of director cum actor Bhagyaraj who had done
a lot of movies in Tamil in yester years. This is Shantanoo 's debut , and
he is very fortunate to be associated with ARR, in his debutant movie
itself..




On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of
> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
>
> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
>
> thanks.
> --
> V
>
> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
>
> > Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they haven'tmessed up
> > big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
> >
> > --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed /<[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]>/*
> wrote:
> >
> > From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com 
> > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
> >
> > The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
> > how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the graphics.. Good
> > numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
> > again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
> > justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
> > Graphics.. ;o)
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Vithur]

Spiritual strength is the need of the hour, to read such mails... What else.
We cant start fighting all the time here ...

I seriously get the doubt, that some one has hacked V.S. Rawat 's id, and
sending all these mails.. Or is Rawat going through tough times... ( Sorrry.
No Offense meant )

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:39 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
>
> > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > in JA in interviews. Why would he lie? To be politically correct?
>
> That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of
> understanding people go with.
>
> I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was personal
> sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
>
> So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
>
> And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the
> exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music for it.
>
> I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies are
> all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
>
> I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone
> of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me.
> It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the movie was
> released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and
> seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that you all
> talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that movie
> is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
>
> That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group. Just
> praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
>
> > Please. The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10
> > families who I know from various parts of India say that the music of
> > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > one of the best albums in bollywood recently. Sales don't lie either
> > as this album has done very well commercially.
>
> People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they
> loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better
> than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are
> miles behind the level of ARR's music.
>
> Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales
> charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth,
> Water, etc. were commercially flop.
>
> > ARR purposely wanted to
> > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam,
>
> I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something different.
> :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
>
> > a type of
> > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > movie.
>
> I can believe this too.
>
> And he succeeded.
>
> JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period
> movie.
>
> but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
>
> > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > time.
>
> Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you punctured
> it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote was a
> suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
>
> You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your mails nor
> replying to you.
>
> so i stop here.
>
> >
> > Love live JA's music. It's one of my all time favorites. Your
> > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small minority.
>
> --
> V
>
> 
>



-- 
regards,
Vithur

ARR -- The Sweet Cube always

[arr] Aamir's ONE WEEK EXPERIMENT !

[$ Pavan Kumar $]

ONE WEEK EXPERIMENT.   
Jul,18,2008

 


Have really enjoyed reading all the comments. Once again the opinion is 
divided. Such fun. 

Though, those in favor of adding the song seem to be in the majority. So, for 
those of you who want it in, the song is in but for just ONE WEEK. You see all 
of us feel that what we released is what we see the film as. And that we don’t 
want to change. This is more like an experiment. A one week experiment. 

So the film will play with the song from tomorrow, i.e. Friday 18th July, for 
just one week. 

However, this addition of the song was possible only in India as the overseas 
distributor cited to many practical problems. So half of you are going to 
slaughter me. But please believe me when I say that I tried my level best to 
convince them. And I am extremely disappointed that I was not able to. Maybe if 
y’all kick up enough of a row on my blog that will convince them. 

But to those of you within India, I hope you enjoy the song, and I really 
wonder whether after seeing the song you will agree with us about deleting it 
in the first place. 
Am super curious. 

 
http://www.aamirkhan.com/blog.htm
 
 
 


  

Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive graphics"

[Thineshan]

the graphics in those movies were like a cartoon! i understand its an
imaginary song but even still why cartoons? the funny thing is they
didnt try to do a cartoon but it turned out that way. very cheap
stuff. if u see movies like lord of the rings, its REAL. they use
computer graphics for skies and distant stuff and it looks EPIC!
imagine mayilirage song with colors in the background representing a
peacocks feather! that is creative and intelligent and cheap use of
graphics... 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Could you two please elaborate what went wrong in the picturization of 
> Mayilirege and in Anbe Aaruyire numbers?
> 
> I always thought CG adds to the beauty of songs.
> 
> thanks.
> --
> V
> 
> On 7/19/2008 3:21 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
> 
> > Oh dear! This is not good news is it?! I just hope they
haven'tmessed up 
> > big time. I still want to kill SJS for messing up Mayilirege!
> > 
> > --- On *Sat, 7/19/08, shahul hameed /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
> > 
> > From: shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [arr] "All songs in sakkarakatti have intensive
graphics"
> > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 9:41 AM
> > 
> > The word, extensive graphics makes me worried.. Am not quite sure
> > how well Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team has handled the
graphics.. Good
> > numbers in Anbe Aaruyire was spoilt by the use of CG.. here it was
> > again Aishwarya Rajnikanth's team who did the CG.. I hope her team
> > justifies the acronym CG with Computer Graphics and not Cheap
> > Graphics.. ;o)
>

[arr] JTYJN declared as blockbuster

[sath.murthy]

India FM says that JTYJN wave (typhoon) continues, extraordinary 
everywhere.


http://indiafm.com/trade/top5/index.html

Sath

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Chord]

You also said that ARR's music was an absolute failure.  Now, you're
backstepping.  If the music and film went in completely different
directions as you clain, wouldn't be the movie have been a complete
flop and ARR getting flogged left and right?  Hmm.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> 
> > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > in JA in interviews.  Why would he lie?  To be politically correct? 
> 
> That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of 
> understanding people go with.
> 
> I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was
personal 
> sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
> 
> So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
> 
> And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the 
> exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music
for it.
> 
> I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies
are 
> all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
> 
> I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone 
> of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me. 
> It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the movie was 
> released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and 
> seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that you all 
> talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that movie 
> is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
> 
> That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group.
Just 
> praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
> 
> > Please.  The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10
> > families who I know from various parts of India say that the music of
> > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > one of the best albums in bollywood recently.  Sales don't lie either
> > as this album has done very well commercially. 
> 
> People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they 
> loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better 
> than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are 
> miles behind the level of ARR's music.
> 
> Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales 
> charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth, 
> Water, etc. were commercially flop.
> 
> > ARR purposely wanted to
> > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam, 
> 
> I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something different. 
> :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
> 
> > a type of
> > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > movie.  
> 
> I can believe this too.
> 
> And he succeeded.
> 
> JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period 
> movie.
> 
> but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
> 
> > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > time.  
> 
> Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you
punctured 
> it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote
was a 
> suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
> 
> You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your mails nor 
> replying to you.
> 
> so i stop here.
> 
> > 
> > Love live JA's music.  It's one of my all time favorites.  Your
> > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small
minority.   
> 
> -- 
> V
>

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Chord]

Just because you prefer Mani over AG doesn't mean that what AG does or
the associated music with AG is a failure.  Watch your words, bud.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 2:19 AM India Time, _Thulasi Ram_ wrote:
> 
> > man, i can understand that u hate JA movie the core now u r
pinching the 
> > music too. this is ridiculous in my context..
> > 
> > to u azeem-o-shah-in-shah is song is "irritatingly louder".. which to 
> > me, is a big joke.. even Joginder was able to change his stance on
JA's 
> > music..
> > 
> > u r the odd one out now! i wudnt be surprised if you feel lagaan and 
> > swades songs as irritantingly louder!
> > 
> 
> No, I don't feel Lagaan and Swadesh songs as irritantingly (what does 
> that mean) louder. I also don't feel that 3 songs of JA were 
> irritantingly louder.
> 
> Anyway, as people are supposed to say only good things about everything 
> ARR does and about everything related to ARR, I expected only this kind 
> of reply here.
> 
> Summary: AG's genre of music is not my type. I prefer Mani genre of
music.
> 
> -- 
> V
> 
> -- 
> V
>

[arr] AR Rahman's different efforts for Marmayogi

[sath.murthy]

ARR plans to have different music instruments from Latin America for 
Kamal's Marmayogi. ARR has mentioned that he only know one liner for 
the film, but he said that it is a totally different film so he want to 
give a different and unique music for the film.

http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/movies/interview/2008/07/18-rahman-
different-efforts-for-marmayogi.html


Sath.

Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony

[Chord]

>But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that.

Of course they should.  Are YOU giving these ODD people permission?

>I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that
Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru.

Hmmm, what would a DISHONEST discussion sound like?  MILES behind? 
Too strong a word.  Omkara is one of the finest albums in recent times
and ARR himself mentioned that it was his favorite that year.  So,
your claim of Omkara being MILES behind RDB/Guru holds no weight.  



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 2:19 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
> 
> > A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when the 
> > criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best 
> > Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru".
> > 
> 
> But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that.
> 
> I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that 
> Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru.
> 
> -- 
> V
>

[arr] ARR in KK's Ponnar Shankar

[sath.murthy]

Hello Friends,


ARR has been approached for the film Ponnar shankar. He has been asked 
by CM Karunanidhi to compose the music for this historical film when 
ARR met CM a couple of days back. It seems that ARR also accepted it.

Let us wait for more details.

Sath.

Re: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI

[Mohamed Hashir]

i didnt count it but defenetly more than three



On 7/19/08, zlksru suresh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> two
>
> --- On *Sat, 19/7/08, Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Loganandh N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [arr] Taxi Engine start Sound in TAXI TAXI
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 19 July, 2008, 1:22 PM
>
>   Hi alll..
>
>
>
> A small trivia for u all folks.
>
> Can anyone tell the number of times the sound of Taxi Engine start
>
> heard in TAXI TAXI song?
>
>
>
> Bye
>
> Loganandh
>
>
>
>
> --
> Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Click
> here.
>
> 
>

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Indmov Buff]

:):):)

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Shah Navas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:58 AM











>>I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR.

Absolutely Rawat. No wonder JA music had such a bad press. 

>>>ARR didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR had


>>>absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - showman
>>>style in which AG was making the movie.

Yes. ARR has lost his senses. The music of JA was as good as Bappi's 
composition for a Mithun's movie.



>>>So, ARR composed music which is very personal, individualistic music,
>>>and that didn't match at all, didn't fit at all in the grandeur of the
>>>movie.

ARR
should stop composing for himself and start composing for the story. If
at all he wants to compose himself he should do his own albums right?


>>>Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the movie.

No
viewer even thought of music while watching the movie. And poor man
Tuteja - somebody from ARR's studio bribed him and made him accept that
JA music is indeed better. But we intellectuals know better.


>>>This would be the only movie of ARR in which the director didn't butcher
>>>the songs, still the songs didn't become noticeable, just because the
>>>songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a soft


>>>love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was Princess and
>>>Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end.
>>>Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it


>>>irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it.

No
Rawat. Some songs were still butchered. Man Mohana was in parts. The
instrumentals were not picturised at all. We should actually sue any
director who doesn't picturise Rahman's songs or use it BGMs in the
name of 'using music to take forward the movie'. Da*n those people like
Aamir, Rakyesh and Asuthosh. What do they know about movie making?
Their movie simply sells because of the star cast or heavy marketing,
nothing else. Public is so dumb that 'made to flop' movies like JA,
JTYJN,etc. . became hits. We have to do something about this. How about
an intteligent movie watching awareness rally?



>>>How could it happen?

>>>Why, if ARR and AG are so intimate?

>>>Didn't AG tell ARR what he is doing in the movie so that ARR would have
>>>included the grandeur in his music?



>>>it seems AG kept on emphasizing to ARR that he is making a love story
>>>between Jodha and akbar, and that is why ARR created such a personal
>>>music for the film, missing out on the grandeur.



Don't use the word 'seems' Rawat. That makes you less authoritative. 
ARR these days has stopped asking anything from the director/producer but the 
contract price and music rights. 


>>>Mughal-e-azam also had the 100% classical personal song Prem Jogan Ban

>>>Ke, that was shot on Dilip and Madhubala in the garden overnight. But
>>>rest of the music was mostly with the grandeur that befits on a period
>>>movie of this scale. Even the songs between individuals had a grandeur


>>>of a period movie.

Yes.
When Asif could make a period movie in 60's (a period when viewers had
a strog liking for absolute masala films), why can't Asuthosh make a
pure period movie conforming to textbooks when there is whole
generation waiting over their heels for a pure, classic, period movie. 



>>>ARR missed on this grandeur, and gave three long personal songs
>>>- jashnebahara, in lamhon ke daman mein and khwaja mere khwaja. That was
>>>disproportionate for the film.



I can't use some expressive words which the moderator would
ban. Yeah. . Jash-e-Baharaa, In lamho ke and Khwaja were such a dud
with only one (or two?? ) instruments and zero emotions. And lo. .
Rahman keeps singing them in his concerts thinking that repeated
hearing will make the public like the song. Wake up Rahman. You are 40.
Your songs now more grow on us. Give us something instantly hummable. 


>>>Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so long and
>>>too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG must have kept
>>>on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing prayers in Muslim


>>>Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance and created such a
>>>lggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears.

Yes.
ARR usually dislikes concepts like patriotism, unity. Thats why he made
a song that pinches our hears. And Bela Shinde has such a screeching
voice. Huh. . . Rahman has lost his ears for good voice.


>>>JA would always hold the crown of music going in one direction and film
>>>going orthogonally to that. And I blame AG 100% for that. he took ARR
>>>for a ride for this film. And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to


>>>darna kya" level of song in it. I think ARR was just not knowing that he
>>>can give

Re: [arr] Ooh La La La Wallpaper (Edited)

[Madhavan Rajan]

Thanks a lot! This is so nice. Now this is my wallpaper...


On 7/19/08, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks! No offence but this is the best wallpaper I have got from the group
> simply cuz it does not have the makers' nor ARRs name on it :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:56 PM, PRATAP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Resolution: 1280x800
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope u guys like it. I'm using this wallpaper now...
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Indmov Buff]

Rawat, I think if you were following JA from the very beginning (ie when AG 
announced the movie), you'd see clearly how AG has stressed that it is NOT 
going to be another MEA. Same genre maybe but completely different films. He's 
always stressed that it's his take on the relationship between Jodha andAkbhar. 
It has always been a love story and surprise surprsie, the title happens to be 
Jodha Akbhar too! He has said that all along and both Rahman and AG have said 
that they wanted to give the music a contemporary feel. Pick any JA related 
interview before the release of the music/movie and you'd know what he was 
saying all along. It takes a lot of craft to be able to deliver a JA and I 
don't think we should take any credit away from the creators of a great piece 
of cineme. I am sorry if you went into the cinema expecting to see a 2008 
version MEA.   It was never going to be that, as stressed by the creator from 
day 1. 

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] What?  JA music a failure??
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 8:09 AM











On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:



> ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work

> in JA in interviews.  Why would he lie?  To be politically correct? 



That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of 

understanding people go with.



I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was personal 

sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."



So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.



And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the 

exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music for it.



I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period movies are 

all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.



I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone 

of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me. 

It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the movie was 

released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and 

seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that you all 

talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that movie 

is going in a different direction than where the film was going?



That is an indication of current quality of discussions this group. Just 

praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.



> Please.  The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10

> families who I know from various parts of India say that the music of

> JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's

> one of the best albums in bollywood recently.  Sales don't lie either

> as this album has done very well commercially. 



People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they 

loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better 

than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are 

miles behind the level of ARR's music.



Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales 

charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth, 

Water, etc. were commercially flop.



> ARR purposely wanted to

> create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam, 



I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something different. 

:-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.



> a type of

> musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of

> movie.  



I can believe this too.



And he succeeded.



JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period 

movie.



but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.



> If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be

> accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that

> time.  



Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you punctured 

it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote was a 

suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.



You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your mails nor 

replying to you.



so i stop here.



> 

> Love live JA's music.  It's one of my all time favorites.  Your

> opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small minority.   



-- 

V




  




 

















  

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[rayrai2k]

Take Lagaan.. wasn't the picurization the best? AG had given 
importance to every note of ARR. The use of Lezims in Ghanan.. the 
multiple voice for multiple actors. Radha kaise na Jale so far the 
best... O re Chori you might have to look for once again.
I had always felt ARR when he works with AG that if ARR gives a 
virtual visualization AG give the sound felt through visuals. They 
collaborate very well with each other.. Think of Khwajaji. Azeemo 
Shaanshansha was indeed well pictuarized. The righ instuments were 
brought to the foreground when the sound appeared. Though 
Jashnebahara & Manmohana came in parts it was picuarized with a 
proper background. So no critic ever said the songs slowed down the 
movie as they did for GURU. Dont you remember how many critics ARR's 
music was a speed breaker? pal pal hain bhaari was given proper 
justice. I liked the way Saawariyan  was done it was more touching. 
Try to remember the sequence for Yeh jo des the scene just before 
that He was in other words did justice for songs. 




--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 9:28 AM India Time, _Pradeepan R_ wrote:
> 
> > Sorry,. dont agree with you.
> > AG is one of the few movie makers who know what a 
typical 'musical' is..
> > And ARR loves those kind of movie makers.
> > Swades was awesome in terms of songs/BGM fitting with the movie.
> > 
> 
> Could you highlight some movies of ARRs in which songs didn't fit 
with 
> the movie?
> 
> Say, what about Guru? Did songs fit or not?
> 
> What about Yuva, Nayak, RDB, Bombay, Dil Se? Did songs fit or not?
> 
> or not even entire movie, but any particular song that didn't fit 
on 
> screen? Mangal Pandey?
> 
> or do you mean ARRs all songs fitted perfectly well in all his 
movies? 
> Hmm. That is telling enough.
> 
> -- 
> V
>

Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Chord]

Rawat,

If you think the songs of JA are great, why did you call it a failure
early on?  I get it that you thought they were too personal and didn't
fit with the movie's grandeur themes, but that doesn't make the music
a failure or ARR's work a failure.  Be careful with the words you choose.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, r arvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Ashutosh Gowariker will continue,Rahman has given the Right boost to
Ashutosh Gowariker movie thru his scores
> 
> --- On Sat, 7/19/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [arr] ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?
> To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 1:54 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/19/2008 4:39 AM India Time, _Vinayakam Murugan_ wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I loved the movie and the music.  There wasn't any situation for a
Pyar 
> 
> > Kiya toh Darna kya kind of song.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for confirming that you also concede that AG is not any 
> 
> imaginative to come up with a situation for a type of a song if he
wished.
> 
> 
> 
> > Ultimately the film was a love story 
> 
> 
> 
> Then it was a first love story that had "Over 80 elephants, 100 horses 
> 
> and 55 camels" quoting from http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Jodha_Akbar
> 
> 
> 
> > and it was overall well depicted with some flaws here and there which 
> 
> > are excused..
> 
> 
> 
> That is a group approach. I also excuse MDs and directors for small 
> 
> things. AFterall they are working in a commercial world.
> 
> 
> 
> But no excuse for AG in JA. If AAmir had interfered in Lagaan, or
SRK in 
> 
>   swades, that was understandable because they were established and AG 
> 
> was new. But now AG is a name to reckon with and Hritik/ Aish are
not at 
> 
> all interfering type. AG could have called all the shots in JA and
he did.
> 
> 
> 
> That is why the conceptual flaws of JA are solely on AG's head.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> > The music of JA was one of its strongest points and will continue to 
> 
> > remain so, in my opinion. We can all speculate on what AG told ARR or 
> 
> > what he didn't. The moot point is it is for them to decide whether it 
> 
> > was as per their needs or now.
> 
> 
> 
> Of course, we are speculating.
> 
> 
> 
> But we also know that ARR is a serious sincere person and he would give 
> 
> utmost weightage to anything a director tells him about the film.
So, if 
> 
> ARR had been aware of the direction the movie was taking, he would have 
> 
> given music according to that. Afterall, he gave a very appropriate 
> 
> music for Mangal Pandey.
> 
> 
> 
> And, if ARR was aware of the movie's direction and still gave personal 
> 
> music, then it is indeed ARR's failure. Sorry for blaming AG all along.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> > I haven't heard a better melody than Jashn-e-bahaara or In Lamhon Ke 
> 
> > daaman me for quite some time now. Sonu in In Lamhon Ke Daaman has 
> 
> > excelled himself. Khwaja Mere Khwaja makes me want to go on my
knees and 
> 
> > pray. 
> 
> 
> 
> yeah, they all are great songs.
> 
> 
> 
> > Man Mohana had its moments and will have its place in the list of 
> 
> > memorable film bhajans.
> 
> 
> 
> you forgot that there was a song azeemoshaan shanshaah also in it.
> 
> 
> 
> some slip. :0-)
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Coming to the lyrics, ARR - Javed Akhtar jodi (Jeans, Sapney, Lagaan, 
> 
> > Swades, Jodha Akbar, etc) is right up there with ARR-Gulzar (Dil Se, 
> 
> > Guru) & ARR-VM (countless :) ) . ARR-Prasoon Joshi has started off 
> 
> > promisingly with RDB.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, using Javed's name in same sentence in which Gulzar saheb's
name is 
> 
> , is a blasphemy. :-) he he he.
> 
> 
> 
> javed is a kid writer in front of gulzar. Gulzar writes from heart. 
> 
> Javed writes from head. There is no match.
> 
> 
> 
> > Now that you have made mention of it, let me know switch to Jodha
Akbar 
> 
> > on my playlist and relive it once again.
> 
> 
> 
> Why? you got diabetes? can't do with sugar?? :-)
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Kehne ko Jashne Bahaara hai 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Warm Regards
> 
> >  ~~~
> 
> > Vinayak
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> V
>

[arr] Re: Sakarakatti: awesome songs, but lyrics a big let down

[prasanna_arr]

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bro Prasanna It wasnt Vaali who wrote Elay  VAALI combo 
with ARR has
> always been a hit. Pls check before writing.
> 
> Vaali has written lyrics for Marudhaani, Munbe Vaa and they have 
been
> terrrific hits...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, prasanna_arr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "badrie"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Am sure there are many here who will not agree with me, but 
this is
> > > not against ARR... this is against all those lyricists who let 
him
> > down.
> > >
> > > Every tune in S'katti is so different and ARR has consciously 
given
> > a
> > > lot of scope for the lyrics to be heard very well. But I dont 
think
> > > the lyricists have done justice to their part.
> > >
> > > The fillers in songs like Elay..."mosa mosanu valanthom.." I 
cant
> > > believe they got into the song, what the hell were they 
thinking.
> > For
> > > most songs there is no rhyme in the lyrics...I can respect ARR 
for
> > > giving the lyricists freedom to express themselves, but I think 
he
> > has
> > > to be more stern with them to bring out essence and elegance in
> > songs.
> > > Probably the director is at fault too, u dont see this happng 
in a
> > > Mani or Shankar movie.
> > >
> > > The song Chinnamma is a gem if you can ignore the looong stress 
on
> > > "ummma umma" in one of the lines in between. Once again another
> > lousy
> > > filler..
> > >
> > > Had to vent out my frustration on the lyricists, they need to 
learn
> > > from veterans like Vaali and V'muthu.
> > >
> > > badrie
> > >
> >
> > 1000% agree the lyrics are waydown... first, the lyricist
> > Vaalli should stop writing lyrics for arr songs..
> >
> > Vaalli is still living in the past... Bring Viramuthu backk..
> >
> > PS : S'katti songs aren't that good..
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> regards,
> Vithur
> 
> ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
>
I am talkin about  Marudhaani. the lyrics are ok.. they arin't 
that good. 
Vaali writes in avg. tamil but rahman is special, look at Sandhosha 
kanneere, Poongatrile, Engae En Punnagai  etc. We want.. well I 
want somethin like that.

[arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Chord]

Some guys here label critics as anti-ARR, but most don't and not I. 
JA was a quality movie with great songs and great acting.  It wasn't
perfect.  I thought it was too long amongst other complaints I had. 
It was well appreciated and will be considered fondly over time.  Just
because you don't agree doesn't mean you are right and the rest of us
are wrong.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 5:36 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> 
> > I think ARR's songs have some of the best picturization and treatment
> > with Ashutosh's films.  I want ARR and Ashutosh to continue together.
> >  They make a great team.  And if JA was indeed a "shit, purposeless
> > movie" as you say, it wouldn't have labeled a box office hit and
> > garnered good reviews from most critics.  Ashutosh is one of India's
> > finest directors.
> 
> Should I give the list of major movies that were box office hits during 
> the last 30 or 10 years.
> 
> And critics? When anybody writes a bad thing about movie/ music, guys 
> here are prompt to label that critic Anti-ARR.
> 
> -- 
> V
>

Re: [arr] it is easy to break harmony

[rayrai2k]

Its not easy to break Harmony as long as we know what we are and why we 
are here for. 
This group is best in its form. There are memebers who have good to 
best knowledge of music and backed by a good moderator who has 
maintained NO-SPAM and no illicit content being delivered. 
Yes, This group is a FAN club of AR RAHMAN, the members' fanatics has 
range from just listeneres to those who follow ARR's music as Religion. 
People of this kind are everywhere and shouldnt be dictated. 
About JUST praising ARR's music NO over the years we have always 
discussed good music than few miscreants who have tried dictating terms 
over the members and who believe what they assume is the ulitmate. But 
they are very few in numbers and the good has always won and supported 
by the likes. 
Being one among the old members I have always found it interesting to 
read the posts and have dedicated a part of my time in a day to read 
the messages. Few posts have however disappointed me but this group is 
worth being in. 
Being an ARR fans and who are huge in numbers its expected ppl would 
expect you talk about Just ARR. However they havent ever been liars. 
But think of those others who have voiced for good music discussion. 
If you happen to be music lover than ARR's there are ofcourse many 
groups and welcome to be the members there. 
I and MANY wouldnt agree that this group has posts only that praises 
ARR's and we have the moderator who has posted any good & Bad being 
written unless they go to an extent of abusing.  
Lets understand every person is driven by his emotions, if we are here 
in this group it means we are here to discuss ARR and his related work. 

Thanks
-R

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 7/19/2008 2:19 PM India Time, _Indmov Buff_ wrote:
> 
> > A big yes to in-depth discussions and criticism too but not when 
the 
> > criticisim is in the form of "Omkara deserved the filmfare for Best 
> > Music more than Rang De and TZP more than Guru".
> > 
> 
> But people who (oddly) think so should be allowed to say that.
> 
> I am sure that any honest discussion would prove without a doubt that 
> Omkara was miles behind the level RDB/ Guru.
> 
> -- 
> V
>

Re: [arr] marudani...ARR/Madhushree magic...awesome

[Chord]

Nah, his humming in Neem Neem is far more passionate.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think ARR bettered himself far far far more in Marudhani humming 
> compared to Neem Neem.
> 
> Marudhani's humming is extempore, spontaneous, straight from the heart, 
> so involved, so deep, such a passion, as a man possessed is bursting
out 
> humming, not able to contain what he was feeling, probably not even 
> knowing that the humming that was always going on there in his heart
and 
> mind has come to his lips. The soft ups and downs of humming add more 
> beauty to it.
> 
> This humming would be the best rendering of ARR.
> 
> --
> V
> 
> On 7/19/2008 7:16 AM India Time, _Arijit Debnath_ wrote:
> 
> > Again Rahman created magic with Marudani...
> > The chemistry between Madhushree and Rahman is infectious... reminds 
> > Rahman's humming at Neem song...
> >  
> > But sometimes I am feeling the whole song could have been filled with 
> > the magical humming by Rahman... what a piece in mind this man
never 
> > stop surprising...
> >  
> > Arijit
>

[arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?

[Chord]

I agree with you Gonzy, well said.  We could do without his haughty
slicing of posts.  To post an opinion is one thing, but to proclaim a
"I am right and you all don't know what you're talkiing about"
attitude is just arrogant.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rawat,
> 
> Ashutosh will love working with ARR and vice versa. We collectively feel
> that it is a great
> combo and you will witness through out your life that this combo
will work
> wonders.
> 
> Simply because we praise this combo, doesnt make us wrong, nor does
it make
> you right if you
> criticise them.
> 
> If you cant appreciate Lagaan, Swades,JA in the top slot, I dont
know what
> else to say.
> 
> And kindly spare slicing this email and putting up your intellectual
> thoughts.
> 
> And i am extremely sorry if i have insulted or degraded you here. I made
> sure i didnt.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   On 7/19/2008 5:36 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> >
> > > I think ARR's songs have some of the best picturization and
treatment
> > > with Ashutosh's films. I want ARR and Ashutosh to continue together.
> > > They make a great team. And if JA was indeed a "shit, purposeless
> > > movie" as you say, it wouldn't have labeled a box office hit and
> > > garnered good reviews from most critics. Ashutosh is one of India's
> > > finest directors.
> >
> > Should I give the list of major movies that were box office hits
during
> > the last 30 or 10 years.
> >
> > And critics? When anybody writes a bad thing about movie/ music, guys
> > here are prompt to label that critic Anti-ARR.
> >
> > --
> > V
> >
> >  
> >
>

[arr] Rawat, why do you dissect everyone's post?

[Chord]

We are here to post our feelings and thoughts, not have each and every
word to be dissected and analyzed arrogantly.  Your posts come across
as arrogant and quite condescending.  

Re: [arr] What? JA music a failure??

[Chord]

Dude,

Who the heck are you to call me shallow?  If you don't want to respond
to my emails or if you disagree with me, then that's fine.  But, to go
on the personal attack and call me shallow, that is uncalled for.  If
you want a war with me, then you've got one.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> * You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your
mails nor
> replying to you.
> 
> *No personal opinions against anyone here please. I thought you of all
> people would understand this.
> Stick to ARR and the topics. There is no need to conclude on anyone
here. No
> one has the right to.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:39 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >   On 7/19/2008 8:58 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:
> >
> > > ARR himself mentioned how proud he was of his work
> > > in JA in interviews. Why would he lie? To be politically correct?
> >
> > That is when I get sickened to the core when such shallow type of
> > understanding people go with.
> >
> > I said "Music and films went on different directions. Music was
personal
> > sort of and film was public exhibitionist sort of."
> >
> > So, ARR can rightly proud of his work as an MD who gave good music.
> >
> > And ARR should realize that he failed to get the feel of the
> > exhibitionist nature of the film and made personal genre of music
for it.
> >
> > I wonder how ARR could mess it up. Didn't he know that period
movies are
> > all vocal, loud, exhibitionist.
> >
> > I am surprised to find that "The feel of JA music didn't suit the tone
> > of JA movie" is being mentioned in this list for the first time by me.
> > It has been 6 months when the music was released and then the
movie was
> > released. Almost all memebers must have heard the music many times and
> > seen the movie at least once. And after 2000 or 5000 posts that
you all
> > talked about on JA movie/ music, not a single person can see that
movie
> > is going in a different direction than where the film was going?
> >
> > That is an indication of current quality of discussions this
group. Just
> > praise ARR, just exchange trivia and tidbit.
> >
> > > Please. The audiences loved the music and I can safely say that 9/10
> > > families who I know from various parts of India say that the
music of
> > > JA is heavy in their listening rotation even today and say that it's
> > > one of the best albums in bollywood recently. Sales don't lie either
> > > as this album has done very well commercially.
> >
> > People loved Om Shanti Om and its music trillion times more than they
> > loved JA movie or music. That doesn't set OSO music any shade better
> > than JA music. I liked 2-3 songs of OSO also somewhat, but they are
> > miles behind the level of ARR's music.
> >
> > Let us not judge the quality of ARR's music by the curves on sales
> > charts. People are stupid because the best works of ARR - 1947 Earth,
> > Water, etc. were commercially flop.
> >
> > > ARR purposely wanted to
> > > create an album that sounded different from Mughal E Azam,
> >
> > I can believe that. He is always hellbent on doing something
different.
> > :-) And I like that. That is his identity, his essence.
> >
> > > a type of
> > > musical direction that has not been footprinted on with this type of
> > > movie.
> >
> > I can believe this too.
> >
> > And he succeeded.
> >
> > JA music vs movie is a unique combo that was never there in any period
> > movie.
> >
> > but it failed. soft music got lost in the loud, gaudy movie.
> >
> > > If he came up with a "Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya", he would be
> > > accused of trying to copy that song or suck up to the music of that
> > > time.
> >
> > Your argument was going perfectly well and acceptable, but you
punctured
> > it right here by stooping to the level of saying that what i wrote
was a
> > suggestion that ARR steals Mughal-e-azam songs to reuse in JA.
> >
> > You are very shallow. I should not have bothered reading your
mails nor
> > replying to you.
> >
> > so i stop here.
> >
> > >
> > > Love live JA's music. It's one of my all time favorites. Your
> > > opinion is your opinion, but it's part of a very, very small
minority.
> >
> > --
> > V
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [arr] Singers count

[mohammed sajin]

I think Sukhwinder Singh

 -- 
SAJIN
..
..
To err is human, to forgive... unlikely.





- Original Message 
From: just an another girl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:07:12 AM
Subject: [arr] Singers count


Which singer ( female / male ) has sung the maximum number of songs under ARR's 
Music direction ?

Is it Chinmayi / ARR himself by any chance ?




  

[arr] ARR-Akshay Kumar desperately awaited combo will be seen in BLUE

[Dhruv Shenoy]

Friends,
   We have seen ARR working with many superstars like SRK, Aamir, 
Salman, Hrithik and Abhishek(junior). We havent seen Amitabh Bachchan but he 
atleast gave voice over in JA and Lagaan . Even in Tamil film industry we had 
seen ARR working with Rajni, Kamal, Vijay, Surya etc. But there is one more 
superstar ARR has never worked with :Akshay Kumar. Akshay who gave back to back 
hits last year has worked with almost all MDs of bollywood SEL,Anu Malik, 
Himesh, Pritam, Vishal-Shekhar (Tashan). Even in the past he has worked with 
many MDs like Nadeem Shravan, Viju Shah etc. But till now we havent seen 
any collaberation between ARR and Akshay Kumar. But in future we might see both 
of them in upcoming film BLUE(100 crores film) . 
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_%282008_film%29#Music


  

[arr] To Rawat on JA music

[jamshid TC]

Hi Rawat,
 
I  understand  you are waging lone battle here today:-) .Let me just get you 
right .
 
You are saying..
 
JA music is good but it didn't the fit the nature of the movie JA. 
 
Now could you please get a little in-depth here.could you clarify , what you 
would have expected in place of those each and every 5 songs of JA ( 
considering AG has has given 5 slots to rahman in the movie and asked him to 
compose songs for those situations) .

1.Azeem-o-shan
2.Jashn-e-bahara
3.Kwaja mere kwaja
4.In lamhon ke
5.Man mohana.
 
Could you explain more on these 5 situations and what kind of songs would have 
replaced these each songs .
 
I am sure , there is something which you have felt very strong at to look at 
the music of JA as an out of sync compisition for the movie.i just want to know 
it by song by song.Becuase i am of the opinion that azeem-o-shaan really evoked 
the mood of the situation , same as Kwaja and jashn-e etcfor me i am unable 
to take even an example of songs which would have better replaced any of these 
ones here , situationally , musically.
 
 
Regards
Jamshid
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: ARR not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's next?
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 2:43 AM






On 7/19/2008 5:36 AM India Time, _Chord_ wrote:

> I think ARR's songs have some of the best picturization and treatment
> with Ashutosh's films. I want ARR and Ashutosh to continue together.
> They make a great team. And if JA was indeed a "shit, purposeless
> movie" as you say, it wouldn't have labeled a box office hit and
> garnered good reviews from most critics. Ashutosh is one of India's
> finest directors.

Should I give the list of major movies that were box office hits during 
the last 30 or 10 years.

And critics? When anybody writes a bad thing about movie/ music, guys 
here are prompt to label that critic Anti-ARR.

-- 
V