Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
man, I got u what u r trying to say... Rythmn pattern (dont mistake it for Rythm or Backgroud of song) of the line Muthu Muthu siripu and Airtel Matches... but its is definitely not a copy or not even a inspiration... Let me give you another example... listen to Titan ad music... and Veetukku Veettukku vaasapadi song from Kizhakku Vaasal... they will have the same kind rythmn pattern... Does that mean Ilayaraja copied Rahman ? I feel it is just a rythm pattern matching and its is just co-incidence. up84mouli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ... A Rufus William Say Hello to me @ Mobile # (0091) 98408 27176 - Whenever you're in conflict with someone, there is one factor that can make the difference between damaging your relationship and deepening it. That factor is attitude - - Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending.
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
As I understand it a sample is any bit of music taken from other sources, i.e., you didn't record it yourself. A loop is a piece of music, whether recorded by you or a sample, that is meant to be repeated over and over in a song. A good example of this is a drum beat, but it doesn't have to be. A sample can be a loop or not. A loop can be a sample or not. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Cyril Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer over here.Please answer. regards Cyril. manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Stupid discussion; horrible *Anti-Rahmaniacs*... Why the hell are they here? If some of the members of this group accused someother MDs (HJ others) for copying other's tunes, go and attack them separately. Don't bring that dispute to this forum. Its really frustrating to go through this stupid topic. Lot of idiotic suggestions comments are going on.. Kids are talking about music, samples loops. What the hell are the guyz (who accuses ARR) thinking of them? Are they great critics of music Grow up, guyz.. Don't make stupid comments anymore. PS: Sorry, if it hurts anybody who accused ARR his music. If they really felt hurted, plz leave this group immediately and leave us in peace. Cheers, Siraj On 8/3/07, Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it a sample is any bit of music taken from other sources, i.e., you didn't record it yourself. A loop is a piece of music, whether recorded by you or a sample, that is meant to be repeated over and over in a song. A good example of this is a drum beat, but it doesn't have to be. A sample can be a loop or not. A loop can be a sample or not. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Cyril Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer over here.Please answer. regards Cyril. manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R .
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Reason for writing such a harsh mail is that few websites are saying ARR copied this beat that beat.. And finally they're giving source as AR Rahman Yahoo! Fansclub. Its very shocking to hear that. Guyz are here in the name of ARR Fans but not supporting him / appreciating his excellent work contribution to Indian Music. (I'm talking about only those few; not all) I hope wish this kind of stupid things will never happen again in this forum. Cheers, Siraj On 8/3/07, Siraj K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid discussion; horrible *Anti-Rahmaniacs*... Why the hell are they here? If some of the members of this group accused someother MDs (HJ others) for copying other's tunes, go and attack them separately. Don't bring that dispute to this forum. Its really frustrating to go through this stupid topic. Lot of idiotic suggestions comments are going on.. Kids are talking about music, samples loops. What the hell are the guyz (who accuses ARR) thinking of them? Are they great critics of music Grow up, guyz.. Don't make stupid comments anymore. PS: Sorry, if it hurts anybody who accused ARR his music. If they really felt hurted, plz leave this group immediately and leave us in peace. Cheers, Siraj On 8/3/07, Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it a sample is any bit of music taken from other sources, i.e., you didn't record it yourself. A loop is a piece of music, whether recorded by you or a sample, that is meant to be repeated over and over in a song. A good example of this is a drum beat, but it doesn't have to be. A sample can be a loop or not. A loop can be a sample or not. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Cyril Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer over here.Please answer. regards Cyril. manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R .
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i thought Rahman used the loop directly (which is not wrong), but man he completely changed the loop, the instruments. He was just inspired by that loop. Relax dude... good luck becoming a MD, once you do, you will know that people like you are a big pain for MDs. Life is short man, have fun with your music. Next time dont turn a spark into a forest fire and trigger 5 pages of responses. My respect for ARR hasnt gone down a minuscule amount, which goes to say how useless your post was. I am sorry but the way you titled your post, the way you worded this, just makes people mad. There is nothing wrong with sharing this info, but next time chooose your ideas/words carefully. later have fun! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e- mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! * Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=+Re:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them
RE: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Airtel tune?Absurd.. tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10 second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic tune..I guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter. Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel tune Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV), do not vomit the same thing here again. This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes deepankal pesum. Vitta AE la vara janagana mana songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy adichadhu nu solveenga. karthik From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com on behalf of up84mouli Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. winmail.dat
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guys yes yes yes gu i m 250 % sure that has lifted songs; he has lifted indian songs to an intenational level... p.s: do not get me wrong guys pls try to understand my feeling. i fell extremely sorry for the guys who claim them selves as a.r.raman fan but do not understand his music at all. for years he has given such joys with music but we so called a.r. rahman fans are talking about such things which is merely a coinsidence. if u want to know what is song lifting then pls listen to Ashique(this is the movie tht is coming to my mind) music or some composition by mr. anu malik or mr. pritam... i think this matter is like Sachine Tendulkar. For years this legend has played one after one classic.inngs. but now we everybody doubt his ability if he fails one or two inngs. pls guys stop this nonsense. if you think he has lifted songs and you made mistake by becoming his fan no one is stopping you to leave this group. WE HAVE LOT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT LIKE HIS NEXT HIT MOVIE SONGS OR HIS NEXT INTERNATIONAL VENTURE. THANKS On 8/2/07, S, Karthik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Airtel tune?Absurd.. tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10 second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic tune..I guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter. Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel tune Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV), do not vomit the same thing here again. This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes deepankal pesum. Vitta AE la vara janagana mana songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy adichadhu nu solveenga. karthik From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com on behalf of up84mouli Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.commailto: arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
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haha the finishing was a good one Karthik.. On 8/2/07, S, Karthik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Airtel tune?Absurd.. tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10 second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic tune..I guess people who accuse must some time use their grey matter. Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel tune Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV), do not vomit the same thing here again. This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes deepankal pesum. Vitta AE la vara janagana mana songum, national anthem lendu dhaan copy adichadhu nu solveenga. karthik From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com on behalf of up84mouli Sent: Wed 8/1/2007 6:27 PM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.commailto: arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
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Hi Karthik! These are my observations to what you have written. tell me Mr. Brain, why would some one search a song and just use a 10 second sequence from a song to compose some thing which is now a historic tune... Many have similarly accused Harris Jeyaraj for the same thing. The song was Mudhal Kanavae where there was JUST ONE bit resembling the LEO coffee ad - which too is damn historic. Just see the tempo of the Muththu Muththu sirippu part and the airtel tune It is not a 'direct' lift. The Airtel tune is a tune which resembles another tune. In short - it is not an original work. Only Rahman can say with absolute certainty whether he copied it or not. What we say are just opinions and observations... But it is definitely frustrating when you come to know that a tune we love so much was already composed by someone else much earlier... Just because some bald fellow comments in aTV program (Baski in Vijay TV), do not vomit the same thing here again. Whats wrong with that? Don't we share good things? Some go to the extent of copying the audio/video itself (which is sometimes illegal) and putting it on the net for sharing. But calling names and pointing fingers on someone like you have done is what is disturbing. This makes me why , why did IR use this part of the tune (muthu muthu sirippu...in a song where the original starting tune is different as it goes deepankal pesum. This has to do with creativity. Sahana had thiruppavai lyrics in a different tune! Sarfarosh ki tamanna from TLOBS has a change in tempo! Many such Rahman masterpieces can be quoted but for the lack of time and space. Thanks and regards. Chandra.
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Among ARR's thousands comostions ,let us say that he has used 30 samplesto the max...What abut remaining compositions? Those are his pure 'GENIUS' and 'MASTERWORKS' nobody is thinking on this line..!!! so plz put an end to this topic -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R __ __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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Listen to the first 4 minutes of the video for a legal stand point on plagiarism vs inspiration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrq9zB43DWo --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rbkiran%40sbcglobal.net wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ -- __ hari n iyer http://hari-iyer.com/ _
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Audio Samples Used by ARR: Rahman is the first person who used a lot of samples in his songs and the second person is Ranjit Barot. Ranjit used to work with rahman and Ranjit programmed drums in HUMMA HUMMA. Now everybody is using samples in mumbai (Salim-Sulaiman, Sandeep Sherodker, jacky, inderjeet sharma, ram sampat sandeep chowta) if you guys think that how can sandeep chowta make sound like rahman? there are samples. Here are some examples: 1] Shabba Shabba [Daud] with african voices? Those are samples not real africans voices. 2] Spanish claps in Jumbalika [Thakshak]? Samples again. 3] Chinese vocals in Latka [Hindustani]? Its a chinese sample from the cd (SPECTRASONICS HEART OF ASIA) 4] Killer drum beats in rangeela songs? Drum samples from the cd (BEST SERVICE XXL 1500) and its a long list. 5] Final beats of Mukkala Muqabla [Kadhalan] sounds like dr.alban africa. Samples again. 6] Beats in Mangta Hai Kya [Rangeela] 7] Early bands like Deep Forest and some Euro techno bands used this concept a lot. Thats why title sound of Thillana Thillana [Muthu] sounds like Deep forest songs There are many other samples rahman used in many of his songs. It is not copying just using a commercially available samples! Source: Rahman's Blogspot Prabakar Ramalingam On 8/1/07, jibandevta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Among ARR's thousands comostions ,let us say that he has used 30 samplesto the max...What abut remaining compositions? Those are his pure 'GENIUS' and 'MASTERWORKS' nobody is thinking on this line..!!! so plz put an end to this topic -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R __ __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ -- You are what your deepest desire is. As you desire, so is your intention. As your intention, so is your will. As is your will so is your deed. As is your deed, so is your destiny. --The Upanishads
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Hi What is the difference between a sample and a loop?. Any composer over here.Please answer. regards Cyril. manikandan gangadhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Tapey I really second the way you wrote your comment...thats exactly how i felt...im not denying hes the best music directors of this time...and hes utter genius..but as you said it dissapoints me when i hear such things that a music bit thats so inspiring and uplifting is afterall a sample...anyways as long as its healthy then its all cool --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain r_vijaynarain@ wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R
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Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
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I Dont Know where this gonna end...pple comin up with new new things, I am afraid to open my inbox...Plz guys..for gods sake lets stop this topic up84mouli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Hello Chandra, I downloaded that song and heard the lines that you have mentioned. Are you sure you got the right one, cuz i do not see any kind of resemblance there. Thanks On 8/1/07, up84mouli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All... To say that 'Rahman has never copied' is not that right... There are some instances where he has lifted or been inspired by other musical works and tunes and has used it in his compositions. One such example is the Airtel tune. It is lifted from a song by the maestro Ilayaraja for the film: Devadai This link has that song... http://tamilcinema.dk/songs/songview.asp?songid=1234 There is a chorus line which goes: Muthu muthu sirippu... (2 or 3 lines) and then... Pakkathile neruppaa... (2 or 3 lines) Another example: The song O Bhaavre... (Daud) is inspired from the song O Saathi Re... Thanks. Chandra --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -- Regards Gomtesh V Upadhye -- Cell : +91 988 675 3639 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
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The loop used in Munbe Vaa is much different from the one you have posted. What I think he is referring to is the hip-hop like, clap- like beat that is repeated throughout the song. This one sounds similar but the one A R R has used is similar. It ain't an offence to use a loop beat as the base of the song. Even Harris Jayaraj is guilty of it -Mazhai Mazhai from Ullam Ketkumae When I say this, you would instantly remember that he had copied Muthu BGM for the starting, but I am referring to the repetitive beat at the back throuhgout the song, also found in another song by another MD -Kadhal Yaanai from Anniyan, Kannum Kannum Nokia from Anniyan This is the worst case of loop usage. The whole song (almost) is made out of club loops and techno loops which I found easily in other songs from other movies and even in ads. Even A R Rahman himself has used a small portion of the loop found in Remo song, in Mayilirage if you listen carefully. So guys, loops are made to add spice to their songs by MD and you see that Munbe Vaa, only the beats are formed by loops. The beautiful Rango Rangoli show's ARR is a gem --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e- mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! * Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=+Re:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not
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heard the sample. This cannot be said as a lift. the song sounds very differernt from the sample... I mean the starting is a bit similar to this one but you cant tell this as a lift,.. no never Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna - From: Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna -
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it will be nice if you can avoid using words like dumb, stupid etcetera when talking to the folks around here. It just ain't polite. if you want to prove something, i suggest you do it, rather than talking about it and getting emotional. you don't really have to violate any legalities if you are just uploading an edited version with low bit-rate. I, for myself can't buy these samples and don't even know where to find them... so, looking forward to your samples . cheers On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! * Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers
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Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! * Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
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Hi Thulasi Ram, I think you are right ,let us not waste time in discussing about that person . Talk only positive things about Rahman . Please dont waste time in discussing the topic Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample . God knows what was his intention in sending that e-mail. - Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
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i think this loop is there in most of the songs...
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heard this file... ;) not sure abt munbe vaa..but i can tell u there is a malayalam song from the movie symphony - Chithramanikaattil... the starting bit of that song is the ditto copy of this file...sounds good..so I have no worries!! On 31/07/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! * Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
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yo brother Krishna, before anything else, 1st be a cultured guy by using appropriate words this is now how u response to people...eventhough they r against u! Firstly,learn the basic manners, then we will consider talking to u !! see ya!
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.....then y wer u shocked!!!!
please upload that sample again...please - Original Message From: Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:44:46 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.then y wer u shocked it will be nice if you can avoid using words like dumb, stupid etcetera when talking to the folks around here. It just ain't polite. if you want to prove something, i suggest you do it, rather than talking about it and getting emotional. you don't really have to violate any legalities if you are just uploading an edited version with low bit-rate. I, for myself can't buy these samples and don't even know where to find them... so, looking forward to your samples . cheers On 7/30/07, Krishna None chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna From: Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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yes the first part of Munbe Vaa sounds similar to the loop or sample or what ever u call it...comon guys accept it..im a die hard rahman fan...but this is so obvious to deny..
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Hey guys, Went through all the discussion, I am technologist and as far as i know we use a lot of softwares for simulations and results and a few inbuilt codes for result. But we are never reported for plagiarism since it is accepted in the industry that ppl do use the same codes for simulation and results. So i guess it shud be the same in every industry. Cheers Shreyas Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ arrahmanfans/ files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2. mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna From: Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are
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EXCUSE ME !!! ITS D SAME KINDA STUFF WHICH SOUDS LIK D SAME INTRU... BUT NOT D LIFT ! TER R ONLY SA RE GA MA PA DA NI SA !!! k U BCUM A GR* COMPOSER TEN U CAN SPK... THANK U MY DEAR.. THE BOSS ! AR RULZ
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Was that a publicity stunt!!?? Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok.. that sounds pretty similar.. so, he might have just used it. On 7/31/07, Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. . The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
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The resembance is 1/10 of a second, and u want us to accept parthi?? mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes the first part of Munbe Vaa sounds similar to the loop or sample or what ever u call it...comon guys accept it..im a die hard rahman fan...but this is so obvious to deny.. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
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I THINK IT'S ONLY THAT THE INSTRUMENT USED IS SIMILAR TO THE 1 MUNBE VAA. THE TUNE IS DIFF! MANY SONGS SOUND SIMILAR TO OTHERS BCOZ THE SAME INSTRUMENTS USED. SO THINK PROPERLY! A.R. RAHMAN NEVER COPIED, NEVER COPIES AND NEVER WILL COPY ANY MUSIC!!! IT'S 100% HIS OWN COMPOSITION! SO STOP COMMENTING N FORGET ABOUT THIS. LET'S ALL JUST IGNORE THIS TOPIC 4 GOOD! Sunil VG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/ Its called da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3. Regards, Sunil On 7/30/07, shahul hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna - From: Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill
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I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R
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AS A SINCERE FAN OF THE MUSIOCAL GENIUS, IAM EMBARRASED. guys, why are you all being sarcastic and arrogant towards the person who said that munbe vaa is a lift. lot of people praise our boss for his nature and character. people cry when they get to see him. but i think as ar rahman's fans, we let him down. we never agree defeat . do we??? we are jealous of harris if he comes out with something good. if our boss's songs sound similar to any other we say its a co- incidence. there are a lot of sound which is similar to european music, like rangeela...kadalan etc. the flute piece of ennavle is a lift and our boss himself agreed in a interveiw. so its not co- incidence when our boss does and copy when harris jayaraj does. grow up guys. really, iam so proud of what our boss is achiving. if we are his fans, we have to follow his nature too, not just his work. the people and career he has created, all the life he has changed through chaity. etc. long live boss. love you to bit..
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Godi.. What're you trying to say here? HJ is better than ARR. HJ's music is better than ARR's. Is is so You just added BOSS in front of all your allegations / complaints. The way you explained looks like this. You're praising ARR but actually you're accusing him. I don't know how to put it right in English. But in Tamil, we've onething in our grammer which is Vanja Pugalchi Ani. It means that you'll scold the person as if you're praising and vice-versa. You did the same here. Try 2 grow up, dude... See, there're many guyz entered this forum. Good 2 have constructive arguments about ARR's music. But this case is not at all valid to be discussed. These samples are meant to be used. If these samples are not used, how come the person who sells this will survive? Commercially, there is nothing wrong in using samples. They'll not be treated as lift. Try to grow up, dudes... Plz put an end to this stupid topic. Cheers, Siraj On 7/31/07, godi_smile1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AS A SINCERE FAN OF THE MUSIOCAL GENIUS, IAM EMBARRASED. guys, why are you all being sarcastic and arrogant towards the person who said that munbe vaa is a lift. lot of people praise our boss for his nature and character. people cry when they get to see him. but i think as ar rahman's fans, we let him down. we never agree defeat . do we??? we are jealous of harris if he comes out with something good. if our boss's songs sound similar to any other we say its a co- incidence. there are a lot of sound which is similar to european music, like rangeela...kadalan etc. the flute piece of ennavle is a lift and our boss himself agreed in a interveiw. so its not co- incidence when our boss does and copy when harris jayaraj does. grow up guys. really, iam so proud of what our boss is achiving. if we are his fans, we have to follow his nature too, not just his work. the people and career he has created, all the life he has changed through chaity. etc. long live boss. love you to bit.. .
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I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R
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Please put an end to this topic and the irritating Subjectplease put an end...please..daivusaingee...daiveituu..daya chaiyandi...shama chaiyu. --- Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought Final Cut Studio, which comes with a program called Soundtrack and a collection of samples loops. While I was going through the loops, I noticed several that ARR has used in songs. The piano intro to Khoon Chala from RDB, the opening beats of Thazhuvudu from Aa Aah, the cello piece from Nenjam Ellam in AE, and a few others. While I understand that composers use loops, it does disappoint me a little when I find out that a clever bit of music I admired is a sample. At least ARR is clever and he isn't just throwing loops together. He composes the vast majority of any given song and uses the loops creatively. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest we put an end to this topic, now that everyone knows Krishna is an aspiring music director. Hope you're happy with the attention you got in this group. Next time, try television. As for the samples, its still the same!! Samples are meant to be used, and will be and should be, and it will never amount to plagiarism!!! VIjaynarain R Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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hey Chup-sss i want one honest reply from you, why did you use the word lift when you are clearly stating it a sample. Was it bcos u wanted many to read It makes me rethink your statement composer. I appreciate your observation of the sample and I had personally felt the continuous loop was from a casio synthesizer as a i vaguely remember hearing it long ago until i gave it away, may be its also there in many other. ARR is a person who shed the bright light that composition can be made easy using samples loops. But I can dare to take a bet that since he started not even a single fellow could remotely near his ability. Just because he did not jump for thriving fame. He works hard for those countless hours to blend those samples to a masterpiece. Sp please avoid stating the word lift a better synonym could have been Usage. that would have fetched you more applause. I hear many ppl saying ARR takes music from western songs. I just let them speak as long as they are idiots in identifying a right one. Today I can delivers hours of lecture on music review it only because of ARR who made me hear a good sound. My life would naot have been the same with out him and his music. Regards, -R --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
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Hey You, I think We all know that ARR has never copied any tune. But you are true it must be a co-incidence because no person would like to be blamed if he has no crime before. And that too for a simple tune. It must be a coincedence IF YOU ARE TRUE. And anyways it doesn't matter if he copies or does anything. But he gives fantastic music. Listen to it. Why are you wasting your time in whose it is. If you like it. Listen It. Otherwise Leave it.
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Hi Krishna, It's good to see your findings. But I think you should keep a low profile when posting such sensitive issues (when u are a pro! ). Otherwise this will become food for discussion to those immature people here! right?! And In my opinion, Rahman started more techno/loop based songs with his 'Tehzeeb' album (I've heard that, Director Khaled mohammed wanted songs/ghazals with some techno/new age feel in it and that's how Tehzeeb songs happened). Later Rahman may have found more potential/demand in such genere and also becoz of remix culture was growing, he came out with the rocking techno songs in Yuva, Lakeer, RDB, SOK, Ah Ah, Sivaji etc. So one may not be surprised to see usage of professional loops in his songs these days. Avinash --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
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Hey Guy Can u also prove us dat the sample was created before Munbe Vaa??? Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Krishna, You state that you are a composer and that you use the samples. But you state that ARR lifted copied the samples.In tat case are your songs lifted and copied songs? Wait read thru my post fully and then decide to blast me later. Now what i am trying to say is that you should just think before you post bro.How could ARR copy or lift a sample when that sample is being sold as a royalty free sample in which its main purpose is to be used in songs,TV, films or where ever musically needed. Maybe you didnt know how to put it.Just say ARR used so n so samples. Recently i read an article in behindwoods where they stated copied stuffs from composers,while other composers had directly lifted and copied from other songs(the tune) Our man ARR is also in the list but for copyin samples!! Its about time we as musicians and being fans of ARR explain this to others.Rather then just calling he copied.It's really very lame. No offence to you buddy..btw what kinda songs do you compose and where r u located at? Am a composer too.Mail me we could talk abt music compositions. Cheers Raj -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna - 5, 50, 500, 5000. Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here.
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal
(tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you
actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would
be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.
- Original Message
From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without
samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ???
Kunal.
Posted by: chup_ssshhh
chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com
chup_ssshhh
Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am(PST)
A silent user here (but also a composer),
Hi guys and girls,
Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
Drum Loops and Samples.
I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!
I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!!
I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
where i can upload these files.
Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!!
I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
music arts.
Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then
give you're opinion.
Sorry for my bad English:P
Krishna
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Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Hey Krishna, This is stated in your first mail I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. In your second mail, Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! See, there is a conflicts in your own statements. If you're really true, first share it and talk about it. We, as Music Listeners Lovers, are not afford to buy those CDs to cross check. Even, if its used by ARR, there is officially nothing about it. Those samples are made for that purpose only. Mind before you post such things. Cheers, Siraj On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!* Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample! chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, rufuswilliam.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let it be... But tell me one thing... does that loop have a tabla and tavil sound. which will micely mixed in munbe vaa song... and thats what is the perfect output from our Rahman... In Munbe Va song... Rahman touch will be seen from the chorus line Rango Rangoli kolangal nee pottai... during which u will hear that so called loop This is the loop I am talking about. we dont find this loop in any other tamil song before. At least 4 other tamil songs have this loop immediately after its release Ameer
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
That was a smart reply, trying to bait yourself out :P But top quote your email: I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! ...which means you werent glad when you found out the similarity Here's more: I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!! which goes to show you are alleging ARR for copying from samples. Your being shocked goes to show you are apprehensive of the concept. Now answering your questions: Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? Ans: When did we say you said so?? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? Ans: When did we say ur the only composer using them When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? Well, you have implied that, in the lines i've quoted about. So much for backtracking! Cheers, R Vijaynarain
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!.....then y wer u shocked!!!!
hey krishna I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! Then y the hell wer u shocked to see that rahman has used a sample in his song if u already knw that every other MD u knw is using the samples.the way u presented the mail was something like rahman did a big sin in using that sample.just shw that mail to someone else and they wud say rahman is a copy catand bla bla...Now may i ask u sir.wat was ur so called intention in sending that mail?. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!* Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
hey siraj.. that guy is in the group as a silent user and he has mailed to this group after finding 'so called' sample similarity. he should have heard munbae vaa before and he should have liked the song but he did not feel to mail about the beauty of the song. now he is jumping out saying he has found a similarity.. why should we care about someone who is not ready to share the proof with us?? may be he might have heard the similarity in his dreams.. what say???!!! lets encourage our group members who discuss ALL aspects +ve aspects and -ve aspects (if any)... obviously, we have to encourage those members who share +ve aspects of ARR and lets have brickbats to those who pop-up in our group just to share some irrelevant news... the example u have given in ur mail is very apt why his news is irrelevant.. On 7/30/07, Siraj K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Krishna, This is stated in your first mail I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. In your second mail, Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! See, there is a conflicts in your own statements. If you're really true, first share it and talk about it. We, as Music Listeners Lovers, are not afford to buy those CDs to cross check. Even, if its used by ARR, there is officially nothing about it. Those samples are made for that purpose only. Mind before you post such things. Cheers, Siraj On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!* Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample! chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Actually Mr Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what was de need for such a subject line? Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! I guess this is what has triggered so many responses.. On 7/30/07, Krishna None [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you guys stupid or what??? Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these samplea??? When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples??? When did I said that nobody may use samples? When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples? When did I said that it is wrong to use samples? guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't wrote anything wron in my e-mail! Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying I wrote in my email :I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness. I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman using samples READ MY E-MAIL Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do then I'm in violation wih these rights! I can say: Search the internet for: Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum Loops Samples. The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is called: Hip Harp. See for yourself. These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for you're own. Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc. A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!! Krishna -- From: *Ashwin Kamath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!* Date: *Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)* I agree with KunalWould you say that because somebody had the Theen taal (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it, would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great. - Original Message From: Kunal Rajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample! People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Munbe+Munbe+Vaa+is+a+complete+lift+of+a+sample%21 chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna -- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48255/*http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/_ylc=X3oDMTI5MGx2aThyBF9TAzIxMTU1MDAzNTIEX3MDMzk2NTQ1MTAzBHNlYwNCQUJwaWxsYXJfTklfMzYwBHNsawNQcm9kdWN0X3F1ZXN0aW9uX3BhZ2U-?link=listsid=396545433from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- Windows Live Messenger: gratis bellen naar 250 miljoen Messenger gebruikers Downloaden? Klik hier. http://g.msn.com/8HMANL/2746??PS=47575
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Krishna, I suppose you understand samples and sound libraries are sold not for the public's general listening, but for music composers and producers to USE in their composition. And that the use of such commercially available samples does not amount to plagiarism. The very reason why they are sold is so that these people can buy them. Its the same case with vst plugins and other music related software. They are MADE so that they CAN be used. So there is absolutely NO harm in using samples, be it by ARR or anyone else for that reason. Plus, saves time!! Note: If you still insist this is plagiarism, then all music in the world is plagiarised, since invariably one of the twleve notes in music has already been used in some other song :P !!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
uh uh...so where is the link for the loop... u may upload them in rapidshare.com .. waiting for it.
Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
@Vijay Narain: LOL!! If music directors can use samples to make their own compositions to save time, we can have Vijay Narain as the next greatest music director!! : No hard feelings ;) On 7/29/07, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krishna, I suppose you understand samples and sound libraries are sold not for the public's general listening, but for music composers and producers to USE in their composition. And that the use of such commercially available samples does not amount to plagiarism. The very reason why they are sold is so that these people can buy them. Its the same case with vst plugins and other music related software. They are MADE so that they CAN be used. So there is absolutely NO harm in using samples, be it by ARR or anyone else for that reason. Plus, saves time!! Note: If you still insist this is plagiarism, then all music in the world is plagiarised, since invariably one of the twleve notes in music has already been used in some other song :P !!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
There's a reason why they are called SAMPLES and not SONGS. Thats what makes it ok to use them. As for your query about me becoming the next greatest MD, welljus wait n watch!! :P --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pavan Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Vijay Narain: LOL!! If music directors can use samples to make their own compositions to save time, we can have Vijay Narain as the next greatest music director!! : No hard feelings ;) On 7/29/07, VijayNarain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Krishna, I suppose you understand samples and sound libraries are sold not for the public's general listening, but for music composers and producers to USE in their composition. And that the use of such commercially available samples does not amount to plagiarism. The very reason why they are sold is so that these people can buy them. Its the same case with vst plugins and other music related software. They are MADE so that they CAN be used. So there is absolutely NO harm in using samples, be it by ARR or anyone else for that reason. Plus, saves time!! Note: If you still insist this is plagiarism, then all music in the world is plagiarised, since invariably one of the twleve notes in music has already been used in some other song :P !!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh chup_ssshhh@ wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ??? Kunal. Posted by: chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] chup_ssshhh http://profiles.yahoo.com/chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Hi, I too have this sample. I bought this from e-Lab Sweden for 800 singapore dollars. Now the company is not making loops but have switched over to making sythesizer softwares/instrument softwares http://www.equippedmusic.se/ I knew that this loop was fantastic, but I was reluctant to use it in my compositions, as no one in tamil music have used this type of loops before. I was surprized to find this in ARR's song. As always happens, many copycats started using the same patten after this. One thing I notice is that ARR always use the best and beutiful loop from 3-5000 loops in each CD. The remaining ones are most of the time useless for compositions. My point is, everyone has these loops and sample CDs, but it is only ARR who first pick up the best loop from these CDs. It is nothing but, intelligence. Ameer http://dreamspringmelodies.com . --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
[arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Hi Krishna, You state that you are a composer and that you use the samples. But you state that ARR lifted copied the samples.In tat case are your songs lifted and copied songs? Wait read thru my post fully and then decide to blast me later. Now what i am trying to say is that you should just think before you post bro.How could ARR copy or lift a sample when that sample is being sold as a royalty free sample in which its main purpose is to be used in songs,TV, films or where ever musically needed. Maybe you didnt know how to put it.Just say ARR used so n so samples. Recently i read an article in behindwoods where they stated copied stuffs from composers,while other composers had directly lifted and copied from other songs(the tune) Our man ARR is also in the list but for copyin samples!! Its about time we as musicians and being fans of ARR explain this to others.Rather then just calling he copied.It's really very lame. No offence to you buddy..btw what kinda songs do you compose and where r u located at? Am a composer too.Mail me we could talk abt music compositions. Cheers Raj -- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chup_ssshhh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A silent user here (but also a composer), Hi guys and girls, Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse I'm not the only one who uses these samples. Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop Drum Loops and Samples. I was really glad hearing these awesome samplestill suddenly I heard a simmilarity between a sample song called Hip Harp and Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by A. R. Rahman in Munbe Munbe Vaa!!! I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link where i can upload these files. Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S MUNBE MUNBE VAA!!! I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R. Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his music arts. Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then give you're opinion. Sorry for my bad English:P Krishna
