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While I agree that other players like Creative, iRiver, Cowon are (possibly) better sounding, its difficult to counter the vast ecosystem that apple has built around the ipod -- lo-tech or hi-end accessories available for it's players is enormous. even the 2nd most popular player (Creative Zen I'm guessing) doesn't have a tenth of accessories (incl. hi-end docks, cables, etc) as the ipod. as for the players a quick check showed they support these lossless formats: creative -- AAC only -- i'm guessing the lossless version alsoipod -- apple losslessiriver -- FLAC cowon -- FLAC, APE cowon offers the best range of formats (lossless and otherwise), followed very closely by iriver. at number three is creative and finally the fourth place in the formats race goes to the industry leading ipod! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, aditya.yeragudipati aditya.yeragudip...@... wrote: If u wanna try something cool. Try Cowan S9. (Any thing but ipod ppl know about this) its easily the best sounding music player out there. Warranty is a problem. Not if ure in Chennai though. Add to it a portable headphone amp you can source from china. Like Darkvoice or Little dot amps. And get ure self a good head phone i'd suggest Shure because of its (Light)weight. But it, like Bose is too costly for its quality. If ure Searching for earphones then Shure, UE etc are the way to go. For portable headsets try Denon, Senns etc. So thats 14000(Cowan s9) + 6000(Amp+Import Duty) + 12000(SE 530 PTH) App 32,000. And when you get one do let me know :). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Nair raviishere@ wrote: Ever tried Iriver ? I had bought one way back in 2002 and was amazed with the sound quality. I used to travel in Bombay local trains (if you know how bad it is), but the headphones lasted for 5 years before it died. The player still works and I have paired it with Sennhieser now, but problem is its only 128 MB...during that time this size was good. Not sure if they still maintain the quality. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.rajib@ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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I mproud owner of cowon D2. Costs less than 8000 for 4 gb expandable model. Fantastic looks. RAHMAN SOUNDS DIVINE ON IT.Just take care that u use different set of headphones than the ones provided and use absolutely minimal settings change Those who have heard the brand have been mesmerised with its quality. Mumbai guys can get it from factory outlet in gorregaon. The guys r discussing shure and other brands- plz guide where can we get it in Mumbai- Any noble souls? From: niyant_dalal niyant.da...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 10, 2009 12:39:10 PM Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? While I agree that other players like Creative, iRiver, Cowon are (possibly) better sounding, its difficult to counter the vast ecosystem that apple has built around the ipod -- lo-tech or hi-end accessories available for it's players is enormous. even the 2nd most popular player (Creative Zen I'm guessing) doesn't have a tenth of accessories (incl. hi-end docks, cables, etc) as the ipod. as for the players a quick check showed they support these lossless formats: creative -- AAC only -- i'm guessing the lossless version also ipod -- apple lossless iriver -- FLAC cowon -- FLAC, APE cowon offers the best range of formats (lossless and otherwise), followed very closely by iriver. at number three is creative and finally the fourth place in the formats race goes to the industry leading ipod! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, aditya.yeragudipat i aditya.yeragudipati @... wrote: If u wanna try something cool. Try Cowan S9. (Any thing but ipod ppl know about this) its easily the best sounding music player out there. Warranty is a problem. Not if ure in Chennai though. Add to it a portable headphone amp you can source from china. Like Darkvoice or Little dot amps. And get ure self a good head phone i'd suggest Shure because of its (Light)weight. But it, like Bose is too costly for its quality. If ure Searching for earphones then Shure, UE etc are the way to go. For portable headsets try Denon, Senns etc. So thats 14000(Cowan s9) + 6000(Amp+Import Duty) + 12000(SE 530 PTH) App 32,000. And when you get one do let me know :). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Ravi Nair raviishere@ wrote: Ever tried Iriver ? I had bought one way back in 2002 and was amazed with the sound quality. I used to travel in Bombay local trains (if you know how bad it is), but the headphones lasted for 5 years before it died. The player still works and I have paired it with Sennhieser now, but problem is its only 128 MB...during that time this size was good. Not sure if they still maintain the quality. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. - - To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com From: a.r.rajib@ Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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hey! there is nothing like lossless mp3s. aac is a different format which gives better performance for lower bitrate. 128 aac can perform as a 256 mp3. While ripping select lossless wav or do a FLAC rip. Your EP630 and the likes are in-ear phones that give you good lower ranges.Bass basically. Any such headphones with 20 to 20,000 Hz frequency response is good enough. Also check for soundlevels if they are around 100Db. But careful with in-ear headphones. Dont share them often it leads to ear infection. regards wb PS : I know this is non-arr but a little discussion on topic this will only help all of us identify the right toys to enjoy his music the way its meant to be. Is it not? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: vishws...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:00:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? How about Creative EP630?? Are they good enough?? Have read lotsa good things abt them on net... The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: icashwin icash...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 8 October, 2009 5:32:35 AM Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? You can always rip lossless mp3s or AACs to keep the sound quality close to the CD. There is also general agreement amongst audiophiles that 192 kbps is a rate that is close enough to the CD at the same time providing the convenience of lesser file size.. iPod stock earphones are horrible. Sennheiser, Grado or AKG are good low end audiophile quality headphones. If you have more money to shell you can consider the Shures, etymotic research and ultimate ears. These provide a divine mid and high range... --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats . wiredbeats@ ... wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com From: a.r.ra...@.. . Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ Add whatever you love to the Yahoo! India homepage. Try now!
Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?
If u wanna try something cool. Try Cowan S9. (Any thing but ipod ppl know about this) its easily the best sounding music player out there. Warranty is a problem. Not if ure in Chennai though. Add to it a portable headphone amp you can source from china. Like Darkvoice or Little dot amps. And get ure self a good head phone i'd suggest Shure because of its (Light)weight. But it, like Bose is too costly for its quality. If ure Searching for earphones then Shure, UE etc are the way to go. For portable headsets try Denon, Senns etc. So thats 14000(Cowan s9) + 6000(Amp+Import Duty) + 12000(SE 530 PTH) App 32,000. And when you get one do let me know :). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Nair raviish...@... wrote: Ever tried Iriver ? I had bought one way back in 2002 and was amazed with the sound quality. I used to travel in Bombay local trains (if you know how bad it is), but the headphones lasted for 5 years before it died. The player still works and I have paired it with Sennhieser now, but problem is its only 128 MB...during that time this size was good. Not sure if they still maintain the quality. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@...wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@... Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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rajib - i don't know about the answer to your question, but I would expect the larger ipods to have better DACs and hence be able to produce a cleaner sound. obviously these may be perceivable only with audiophile-quality output (headphones or speakers). it would be good to hear from someone if they've done a one-to-one comparison with good quality headphones. there are many (mostly expensive to very expensive) ways of getting clean output from ipods that are discussed on audiophile forums -- some companies offer to modify your ipod's analog output (line out) to reduce the amount of deterioration that occurs due to the analog transport to your line out. there are others like 'wadia itransport' that offer audiophile-grade ipod docks that completely bypass the DAC on the ipod to transfer digital signals to your receivers / amps / etc. there's a good 'audiophile' review of one of the older ipod classics that might interest some: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_1/ipod-bench-tested-3-2007-part\ -1.html http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_1/ipod-bench-tested-3-2007-par\ t-1.html but from what i hear, the purists would mostly not consider mp3s as a good software source ... from a sound quality perspective its this: vinyl, sacd, dvd audio cd, lossless mp3 / aac / flac / ape mp3 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@... wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@... Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.comwrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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How about Creative EP630?? Are they good enough?? Have read lotsa good things abt them on net... The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: icashwin icash...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 8 October, 2009 5:32:35 AM Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? You can always rip lossless mp3s or AACs to keep the sound quality close to the CD. There is also general agreement amongst audiophiles that 192 kbps is a rate that is close enough to the CD at the same time providing the convenience of lesser file size.. iPod stock earphones are horrible. Sennheiser, Grado or AKG are good low end audiophile quality headphones. If you have more money to shell you can consider the Shures, etymotic research and ultimate ears. These provide a divine mid and high range... --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, wiredbeats . wiredbeats@ ... wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com From: a.r.ra...@.. . Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ Keep up with people you care about with Yahoo! India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail.yahoo.com/connectmore
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But the prob is iPod shuffle doesnt work with any other headphones than with the given one and all it's control is on the given headphone itself :-( http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ Bfo buying iPod i used to listen to songs with speakers , and so many china Mp3/mp4/mp5 players I found huge differences between china players and iPod ...that is y m saying iPod is good ...i am yet to test those Audiophiles equipments and more importantly those headphones speakers arent available here btw anyone tried ipod shuffle ?? with it's headphone ? apple claimed therez a lot of improvement in terms of sound quality in these headphone . as i havent tried any other ipod bfo ...so i cant comment if they really improved the sound quality ... any comments on these ?? --- On *Thu, 10/8/09, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:03 AM i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail. com/mc/compose?to=wiredbe...@hotmail.com wrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. -- To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanf...@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@gmail. com /mc/compose?to=a.r.ra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~ -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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Ever tried Iriver ? I had bought one way back in 2002 and was amazed with the sound quality. I used to travel in Bombay local trains (if you know how bad it is), but the headphones lasted for 5 years before it died. The player still works and I have paired it with Sennhieser now, but problem is its only 128 MB...during that time this size was good. Not sure if they still maintain the quality. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i would pick a sony or a creative player over an ipod anyday. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.comwrote: Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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Honestly. iPOD headphones are horrible in reproduction. Buy any good sennhieser entry level is some 570 rupees. check the difference the same device gives. And no, there are not many things that will disappear in an MP3 when you covert. The fidelity suffers but it makes it up when you listen in a headphones environment. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: a.r.ra...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:38:41 +0600 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Was wondering Is iPod shuffle good enough to listen ARR's hidden stuffs ?? what would audiophiles rate iPod shuffle it's Headphone It works Only with the given Headphone Which is SUPERB I used to listen songs with my Microlab 4:1 Speakers and sometimes from My Nokia 3250 Music express with Nokia's Original Headphone Sony MDR-EX700 Headphone With Nokia's Universal Headphone adaptor I was impressed with Sony ...but now i realize iPod is way better than anything Money Talks ...and iPod works only with it's own headphone ... Give ur thoughts on iPod shuffle Rahmanics Please !!! and if u guys hav any recommendations please do give !! as i am pretty much Dumb in this case :s -- - Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~
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wooden bookshelf speakers with system of about 150 RMS will be just fine for a small room. Like a Hostel room. Headphones Firstly, throw your iPOD headphones into the trash. The device works fine, but pathetic headphones.For your regular use like running,GYMing etc buy the Sennheiser that comes in a green box ( don't know the model number). Costs about 1500 rupees. It takes your iPOD audio to a different level. However, i found HD 595 Senheisser the awesomest one! Bose also works, but dont pay that much seriously. MP3 is MP3, you wont get some magic extra sounds and most of today's bollywood music is compressed and fedility is missing ( this included BLUE also,sorry ...). Blue sounds bad even in good headphones. Seriously, whats with that? Audiophiles thingy Well, investing on sound is not a bad idea only if you are listening to that kind of a material in its original medium. And this does not include Original MP3 CDs! Some of these Sony CD contain 'Super MP3!!' what the heck is that! The thing is, Audiophiles range is no doubt superior but it depends a lot on listening ambiance. Mostly we live in apartments with lot of world noises and volume issues. With this we only end up under utilizing the machines. And if you hookup an MP3 player you are just wasting your money in those. Most materials are not produced for Audiophiles. Dos and Don'ts for playing audio CDs Don't look for surround sound in audio CDs. Even if its is Rahman you won't find 5.1 effect in audio CDs. Its not meant for it. Super Audio CD or SACD is very rare. I have a few but have not compared with any standard CD medium of the same track. Don't increase the volume and think wow. If you can't hear details in 1/3rd volume then either your setting is wrong or the CD is badly recorded. REFERENCE AR RAHMAN TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pixels@ Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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effect in audio CDs. Its not meant for it. Super Audio CD or SACD is very rare. I have a few but have not compared with any standard CD medium of the same track. Don't increase the volume and think wow. If you can't hear details in 1/3rd volume then either your setting is wrong or the CD is badly recorded. REFERENCE AR RAHMAN TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb -- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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original medium. And this does not include Original MP3 CDs! Some of these Sony CD contain 'Super MP3!!' what the heck is that! The thing is, Audiophiles range is no doubt superior but it depends a lot on listening ambiance. Mostly we live in apartments with lot of world noises and volume issues. With this we only end up under utilizing the machines. And if you hookup an MP3 player you are just wasting your money in those. Most materials are not produced for Audiophiles. Dos and Don'ts for playing audio CDs Don't look for surround sound in audio CDs. Even if its is Rahman you won't find 5.1 effect in audio CDs. Its not meant for it. Super Audio CD or SACD is very rare. I have a few but have not compared with any standard CD medium of the same track. Don't increase the volume and think wow. If you can't hear details in 1/3rd volume then either your setting is wrong or the CD is badly recorded. REFERENCE AR RAHMAN TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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Hmm Sony NC are ok.Basically the technology is not very versatile to innovate. As in you cannot have many ways to make NC phones. It usually depends on the build quality and the ambient anti-noise cancellation range. Most of them believe NC phones fit so tightly to ears that outside noise does not enter!! how wrong. Sony NCs are fine, but do check out thier new compact 'in ear' NC phones. They are super cool and very easy to carry. You can just hang em' and carry around. Unlike the drums that you wear around your ears. Grado is vintage stuff..super they are. Usually used by live performance sound engineers in stages and also my sound recordists in soundstages. If you have a pair of these..great! However, we should enjoy these phones using a portable CD player and not MP3!!..the Sony portable CD player and your grado or something of that class is heaven. Try Rahman's Taal in those..!! Someone told me Grado also has a reference versions of their phones. I am sure they are good.. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: karthi...@yahoo.co.in Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:04:10 -0700 Subject: RE: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Thanks for the great article Wb! Can you please throw some light on NC headphones. I've Sony NC60 which is great for flights but at home my Grado is far better. Regards Karthikeyan --- On Fri, 2/10/09, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.com wrote: From: wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 2:15 AM hey! i don't know about all that. Just that i am a huge fan of headphones and i try and collect some rare or some sorta expensive ones. But in audio stuff expensive does not mean good!..there are some basic ipod headphones for even 1000 rupees by sennheiser that are damn cool, esply the bass response. Try it or try 'JBL reference' headphones i think it costs 2500 rupees, an absolute stunner. OK, here is the little i know and it works Home Theatre Dont go by the number of speakers. Some sony models come with 5 center button speakers and woofer of 4 channels thats like 11 speakers!! - Farce. Just take any 850RMS above home theatre with auto/manual calibration. Use manual calibration for rear right and rear left and notch it by say 1.5 dB. treble sounds crispper then. Works for ALL RAHMAN DISCS. Don't go by the size of the woofer. As long as its in a wooden box its fine.However, don't ever push the woofer into a corner of the room. It booms and the bass reproduction is wrong. You are looking for a rumble not windows rattling. Move your woofer about half feet away from walls. Test it by playing Maula Maula track from Delhi 6 ( a suble bass line that sounds so great!!) If you have some cash to blow try these Jamo S 606 home speaker systemsHarmom Kardon HKTS series And yes, i agree Bose is over rated. Its great but lot of other guys have caught on and now theres very little difference. Go right ahead and by anything nice thats has packed speakers in wood. Not plastic. And if you get a DVD/CD player with the package but it. Normally u only get an AMP. In that case PLEASE do not compromise on your DVD player. Don't fit local ones. Play CDs and not MP3s in these systems to judge the output. Sometimes we might feel the bass or treble is low while playing a CD. But the sonic range is usually very rich and if you just change your seat it might sound better. CD players I sometimes think standlone systems sound way better. When you buy a HiFI or a mini HiFi, try and locate one with a manual EQ. This feature is becoming quite rare and i hate it. I found a pair from Wharfedale quite stunning. But then don't break your head!, but any neat wooden bookshelf speakers with system of about 150 RMS will be just fine for a small room. Like a Hostel room. Headphones Firstly, throw your iPOD headphones into the trash. The device works fine, but pathetic headphones.For your regular use like running,GYMing etc buy the Sennheiser that comes in a green box ( don't know the model number). Costs about 1500 rupees. It takes your iPOD audio to a different level. However, i found HD 595 Senheisser the awesomest one! Bose also works, but dont pay that much seriously. MP3 is MP3, you wont get some magic extra sounds and most of today's bollywood music is compressed and fedility is missing ( this included BLUE also,sorry ...). Blue sounds bad even in good headphones. Seriously, whats with that? Audiophiles thingy Well, investing on sound is not a bad idea only if you are listening to that kind of a material in its original medium. And this does not include Original MP3 CDs! Some of these Sony CD contain 'Super MP3!!' what the heck is that! The thing is, Audiophiles range is no doubt superior but it depends a lot on listening ambiance. Mostly we live in apartments
Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?
-- To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :) -- --- http://ramblingsoul.com http://2ic.in
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Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
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I'm not one (yet) but like most of us who like listening to music I surely aspire to get decent configuration some day without blowing a big hole in my wallet. :) Btw I own sennheisers too -- they're pretty good sounding. You can always argue hi-end stuff is for show-off and yes it is a lot of times. But at the same time you can't deny that a bmw drives much better than other cars and there is some intrinsic value in it's engineering beyond the snob-factor. There area lot of audiophile forums that caution people to steer away from over-priced Bose systems. You can get much more 'sound for your buck' with other systems. They're good sounding systems but not really what their marketing claims as 'best-in-class'. A few posts I've read in the past, though I don't want to turn this into a Bose-bashing thread: http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/03/what-about-bose-part-\ 1/ http://www.thetechlounge.com/news/10431/Why+Bose+Sucks/ http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-3266.html I was hoping to learn from people who had spent the time to research / setup entry-level hi-end audio hardware. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)
RE: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?
hey! i don't know about all that. Just that i am a huge fan of headphones and i try and collect some rare or some sorta expensive ones. But in audio stuff expensive does not mean good!..there are some basic ipod headphones for even 1000 rupees by sennheiser that are damn cool, esply the bass response. Try it or try 'JBL reference' headphones i think it costs 2500 rupees, an absolute stunner. OK, here is the little i know and it works Home Theatre Dont go by the number of speakers. Some sony models come with 5 center button speakers and woofer of 4 channels thats like 11 speakers!! - Farce. Just take any 850RMS above home theatre with auto/manual calibration. Use manual calibration for rear right and rear left and notch it by say 1.5 dB. treble sounds crispper then. Works for ALL RAHMAN DISCS. Don't go by the size of the woofer. As long as its in a wooden box its fine.However, don't ever push the woofer into a corner of the room. It booms and the bass reproduction is wrong. You are looking for a rumble not windows rattling. Move your woofer about half feet away from walls. Test it by playing Maula Maula track from Delhi 6 ( a suble bass line that sounds so great!!) If you have some cash to blow try these Jamo S 606 home speaker systemsHarmom Kardon HKTS series And yes, i agree Bose is over rated. Its great but lot of other guys have caught on and now theres very little difference. Go right ahead and by anything nice thats has packed speakers in wood. Not plastic. And if you get a DVD/CD player with the package but it. Normally u only get an AMP. In that case PLEASE do not compromise on your DVD player. Don't fit local ones. Play CDs and not MP3s in these systems to judge the output. Sometimes we might feel the bass or treble is low while playing a CD. But the sonic range is usually very rich and if you just change your seat it might sound better. CD players I sometimes think standlone systems sound way better. When you buy a HiFI or a mini HiFi, try and locate one with a manual EQ. This feature is becoming quite rare and i hate it. I found a pair from Wharfedale quite stunning. But then don't break your head!, but any neat wooden bookshelf speakers with system of about 150 RMS will be just fine for a small room. Like a Hostel room. Headphones Firstly, throw your iPOD headphones into the trash. The device works fine, but pathetic headphones.For your regular use like running,GYMing etc buy the Sennheiser that comes in a green box ( don't know the model number). Costs about 1500 rupees. It takes your iPOD audio to a different level. However, i found HD 595 Senheisser the awesomest one! Bose also works, but dont pay that much seriously. MP3 is MP3, you wont get some magic extra sounds and most of today's bollywood music is compressed and fedility is missing ( this included BLUE also,sorry ...). Blue sounds bad even in good headphones. Seriously, whats with that? Audiophiles thingy Well, investing on sound is not a bad idea only if you are listening to that kind of a material in its original medium. And this does not include Original MP3 CDs! Some of these Sony CD contain 'Super MP3!!' what the heck is that! The thing is, Audiophiles range is no doubt superior but it depends a lot on listening ambiance. Mostly we live in apartments with lot of world noises and volume issues. With this we only end up under utilizing the machines. And if you hookup an MP3 player you are just wasting your money in those. Most materials are not produced for Audiophiles. Dos and Don'ts for playing audio CDs Don't look for surround sound in audio CDs. Even if its is Rahman you won't find 5.1 effect in audio CDs. Its not meant for it. Super Audio CD or SACD is very rare. I have a few but have not compared with any standard CD medium of the same track. Don't increase the volume and think wow. If you can't hear details in 1/3rd volume then either your setting is wrong or the CD is badly recorded. REFERENCE AR RAHMAN TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think Hope this was of some use!! Regards Wb To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com From: c.pix...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:47:26 +0530 Subject: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths
RE: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?
Thanks for the great article Wb! Can you please throw some light on NC headphones. I've Sony NC60 which is great for flights but at home my Grado is far better. Regards Karthikeyan --- On Fri, 2/10/09, wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.com wrote: From: wiredbeats . wiredbe...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? To: rahman fans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 2:15 AM hey! i don't know about all that. Just that i am a huge fan of headphones and i try and collect some rare or some sorta expensive ones. But in audio stuff expensive does not mean good!..there are some basic ipod headphones for even 1000 rupees by sennheiser that are damn cool, esply the bass response. Try it or try 'JBL reference' headphones i think it costs 2500 rupees, an absolute stunner. OK, here is the little i know and it works Home Theatre Dont go by the number of speakers. Some sony models come with 5 center button speakers and woofer of 4 channels thats like 11 speakers!! - Farce. Just take any 850RMS above home theatre with auto/manual calibration. Use manual calibration for rear right and rear left and notch it by say 1.5 dB. treble sounds crispper then. Works for ALL RAHMAN DISCS. Don't go by the size of the woofer. As long as its in a wooden box its fine.However, don't ever push the woofer into a corner of the room. It booms and the bass reproduction is wrong. You are looking for a rumble not windows rattling. Move your woofer about half feet away from walls. Test it by playing Maula Maula track from Delhi 6 ( a suble bass line that sounds so great!!) If you have some cash to blow try these Jamo S 606 home speaker systemsHarmom Kardon HKTS series And yes, i agree Bose is over rated. Its great but lot of other guys have caught on and now theres very little difference. Go right ahead and by anything nice thats has packed speakers in wood. Not plastic. And if you get a DVD/CD player with the package but it. Normally u only get an AMP. In that case PLEASE do not compromise on your DVD player. Don't fit local ones. Play CDs and not MP3s in these systems to judge the output. Sometimes we might feel the bass or treble is low while playing a CD. But the sonic range is usually very rich and if you just change your seat it might sound better. CD players I sometimes think standlone systems sound way better. When you buy a HiFI or a mini HiFi, try and locate one with a manual EQ. This feature is becoming quite rare and i hate it. I found a pair from Wharfedale quite stunning. But then don't break your head!, but any neat wooden bookshelf speakers with system of about 150 RMS will be just fine for a small room. Like a Hostel room. Headphones Firstly, throw your iPOD headphones into the trash. The device works fine, but pathetic headphones.For your regular use like running,GYMing etc buy the Sennheiser that comes in a green box ( don't know the model number). Costs about 1500 rupees. It takes your iPOD audio to a different level. However, i found HD 595 Senheisser the awesomest one! Bose also works, but dont pay that much seriously. MP3 is MP3, you wont get some magic extra sounds and most of today's bollywood music is compressed and fedility is missing ( this included BLUE also,sorry ...). Blue sounds bad even in good headphones. Seriously, whats with that? Audiophiles thingy Well, investing on sound is not a bad idea only if you are listening to that kind of a material in its original medium. And this does not include Original MP3 CDs! Some of these Sony CD contain 'Super MP3!!' what the heck is that! The thing is, Audiophiles range is no doubt superior but it depends a lot on listening ambiance. Mostly we live in apartments with lot of world noises and volume issues. With this we only end up under utilizing the machines. And if you hookup an MP3 player you are just wasting your money in those. Most materials are not produced for Audiophiles. Dos and Don'ts for playing audio CDs Don't look for surround sound in audio CDs. Even if its is Rahman you won't find 5.1 effect in audio CDs. Its not meant for it. Super Audio CD or SACD is very rare. I have a few but have not compared with any standard CD medium of the same track. Don't increase the volume and think wow. If you can't hear details in 1/3rd volume then either your setting is wrong or the CD is badly recorded. REFERENCE AR RAHMAN TRACKS FOR TESTING IN YOUR NEW HOME THEATRE/ CD SYSTEM. Selected purly in brilliance in the sound(Not in any order) Dil Se Re Marudhaani - Sakkarakatti Ghanan Ghanan - Lagaan (Bose showrooms used this track as demo for a long time!)Taal Se Taal Mila Gurus of peace - VandemataramDo Kadam - Meenaxi - A Tale of 3 CitiesEkla Chalo - Bose the forgotten HeroMain Albeli -ZubeidaKwaja Mere Kwaja - Jodha AkbarAha Tamizhamma - Azhagiya Tamizh Magan Note Roja is missing!..yeah its old now. But worth a remaster i think
Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group?
: Re: [arr] any 'Audiophiles' on this group? Are you the kind that listens to your music on audiophile-grade equipment. What's your configuration (receivers, speakers, etc)? Are you ? What is your configuration ? and how much did it all cost ? One of the first myths that was busted early on by one of my friends was that Bose makes crappy systems!!! (What??? you may ask). They have great marketing, but unfortunately doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles. So, you are saying Bose does not make crappy systems and still it doesn't make the cut for most audiophiles ? I thought Bose did make great sound systems. But i couldn't even afford one. The only thing I listen music with is a Sennheiser earphone. It is much better than that crappy ipod earphones, so I am happy with it. But having a studio built into your home with the most expensive sound systems in the world is just waste of time and money, of course unless you are that rich. you could always argue that these brands you mentioned give high quality sound. But I think most of these so called Audiophiles do that because they just want to show off their equipments and their superior taste. I have seen rich gamers building costliest gaming rigs with a super computer's configuration, just so that they can play games? craziness. That's just my opinion :)