Re: Buggy version survey

2012-06-25 Thread Jose Huerta
Doug,
 First, the poll is to check one concept before publishing anything about
it. Second, I won't extract wrong conclusions from the poll. That is, if
the most voTed version is the last it doesn't mean that it's buggy (it is a
relative question, not absolute). Even it doesn't mean that it is the most
buggy. New developers will talk only about last versions. Also, peoples
memory is short term at many cases, so they easy forgot about old versions
and only see what is happening to them now.

In fact I though that 7.5 will be the most buggy, but current results are
not in that direction.

To summarize, as an independent writer I want to tell truth, without any
concern about if it likes or doesn't like BMC. But also I'm not a
sensationalist writer, or at least I think it. And every time I tell my
opinion through the blog, I try to make it clear: it's my opinion, not the
thruth.

El lunes, 25 de junio de 2012, Doug Blair escribió:

 **
 Jose,

 Before we all jump on your survey, may I ask what you plan to do with the
 results?

 The last thing I would want to see is ad copy that says a 2012 poll of
 well known Remedy programers thinks all the recent releases are buggy.

 (Yes, of course there are bugs. It's software!)

 If you have reason to believe the releases are buggy, I for one would love
 to hear how you have addressed the issues you've encountered. I'd view that
 as a positive contribution to our little ecosystem.

 Doug

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 Sent from my new iPad
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 ** Hi all,

 A survay about buggy versions of Remedy. Please connect to
 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M8KH73Y and answer. It's only one question,
 so it will take less than a minute.

 Thanks!

 Jose Huerta
 http://theremedyforit.com/
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Re: Handle Duplicate Request IDs By: Update Old Record with New Record's Data

2012-06-25 Thread Amol Dixit
With Import tool there is an option to 'Ignore required field'. If you turn on 
that option you will not receive mandetory field error.

However, if you updating the old record with new record data it should update 
and should not create new record. The error you mentioned is observed only if 
new record is created and values are not supplied for the mandetory field.

It seems like it is not able to idetify which record to update. Is there any 
change in the unique fields for that form? Please check

Regards
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Re: Handle Duplicate Request IDs By: Update Old Record with New Record's Data

2012-06-25 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

Possible reason behind getting error could be the null value for required core 
field, In your case its Submitter field (ID: 2)

So need to check whether there are null values for required field in .arx file 
being used for importing.

Also there could be problem with the incorrect criteria that user is providing. 
Please verify the request ID in the csv file  its format.

With Import tool there is an option to 'Ignore required field'. If you enable 
that option, mandatory field error will get resolved.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Daniel Condrea
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Handle Duplicate Request IDs By: Update Old Record with New Record's 
Data

Hello all,

Sometimes I need to update an old record with new data. In version ARS 7.1 I've 
done it by modifying an export of type ARX and then I use de Import tool to 
update de old record.

Now we use ARS 7.6.04. I've tried the same technique using Data Import Tool 
with option Handle Duplicate Request IDs By: Update Old Record with New 
Record's Data and Data Import Tool is trying to generate a new record, as a 
result I get an error message saying, for example, that filed 2 is mandatory.

Is anyone experienced this behavior?

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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Ron Tavares
Is there an ETA?
.ron

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.netwrote:

 **
  It is technically Christened as 8.0 although it was formally scheduled
 to be released as 7.7.

 7.7 release was renamed basically to 8.0.

 Joe

  *From:* Francois Seegers franco...@blueturtle.co.za
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:30 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
  *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Next ARS version

  **

 Hi All,



 I really hope this version is a *stable* version that will win back
 customer trust in the remedy applications.  “*Loads of new features and
 expectations*” will be respectable for a such major release but I think
 looking at the amount of bugs introduced since version 7.6 that stability
 across platforms is the most important.



 Francois



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *praveen kumar
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:12 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Next ARS version



 **

 Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new
 features and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.



 Cheers.!

 prawin

 
  I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new
  feature to call it 8.0.
 
  On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
   ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
  
   Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm sure
   that you'll have the correct answer.
  
   Regards,
  
   Jose Huerta
   http://theremedyforit.com/
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Re: Next ARS version AD:WWRUG12

2012-06-25 Thread arslist
All the details of Version 8.0 will be featured in the WWRUG12 in October,

And you still have a week before the current discounted registration fee
ends.

 

(you also still have a week left to submit a paper to present,

And if it is accepted you get in free).

 

Oct. 15-19 in San Jose California www.wwrug12.com

 

Daniel

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of praveen kumar
Sent: June 24, 2012 11:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [SPAM]Re: Next ARS version

 

** 

Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new features
and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release. 

 

Cheers.!

prawin

 
 I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new 
 feature to call it 8.0.
 
 On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
  ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
 
  Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm sure 
  that you'll have the correct answer.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose Huerta
  http://theremedyforit.com/
  _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ 
 


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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Easter, David
As with all forward looking statements, everything is tentative - including the 
version number.

Tentatively, the next version is currently expected to be numbered as 8.0.00, 
yes.  It is currently expected to be released in Q3CY12.  It had been 
tentatively numbered as 7.7.00 until a few months ago.  This emphasizes the 
reason why versions are not considered official or confirmed until General 
Availability is reached.

Also note that whether it has Loads of new features or not is based on the 
perception of the individual making the statement.   While numbered as 8.0.00, 
it would not be considered a major release based on content when compared to 
the industry's typical definition of major.  Unfortunately, I can't go into 
details of content on a public forum to further explain.  However, if you 
attend WWRUG 12, I'll be doing  a What's New presentation there.  And, of 
course, once it reaches GA there will be a What's New document that details 
new features.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ron Tavares
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:53 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Next ARS version

**
Is there an ETA?
.ron
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Joe Martin D'Souza 
jdso...@shyle.netmailto:jdso...@shyle.net wrote:
**
It is technically Christened as 8.0 although it was formally scheduled to be 
released as 7.7.

7.7 release was renamed basically to 8.0.

Joe

From: Francois Seegersmailto:franco...@blueturtle.co.za
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:30 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Next ARS version

**
Hi All,

I really hope this version is a stable version that will win back customer 
trust in the remedy applications.  Loads of new features and expectations 
will be respectable for a such major release but I think looking at the amount 
of bugs introduced since version 7.6 that stability across platforms is the 
most important.

Francois

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of praveen 
kumar
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:12 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Next ARS version

**
Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new features and 
expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.

Cheers.!
prawin

 I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new
 feature to call it 8.0.

 On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
  ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
 
  Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm sure
  that you'll have the correct answer.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose Huerta
  http://theremedyforit.com/
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Re: Buggy version survey

2012-06-25 Thread Logan, Kelly
I think Doug has a good point. Because of the way data like this could be used, 
it wouldn’t hurt to have a statement at the beginning, something like:  This 
data is being collected by {state your name/company here} and will be used for 
gathering information in order to help improve the BMC Remedy product and to 
help BMC Remedy users. It will NOT be used in any sales, marketing, promotion 
or other advertising or used as a basis for same.


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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:16 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buggy version survey

** Doug,
 First, the poll is to check one concept before publishing anything about it. 
Second, I won't extract wrong conclusions from the poll. That is, if the most 
voTed version is the last it doesn't mean that it's buggy (it is a relative 
question, not absolute). Even it doesn't mean that it is the most buggy. New 
developers will talk only about last versions. Also, peoples memory is short 
term at many cases, so they easy forgot about old versions and only see what is 
happening to them now.

In fact I though that 7.5 will be the most buggy, but current results are not 
in that direction.

To summarize, as an independent writer I want to tell truth, without any 
concern about if it likes or doesn't like BMC. But also I'm not a 
sensationalist writer, or at least I think it. And every time I tell my opinion 
through the blog, I try to make it clear: it's my opinion, not the thruth.

El lunes, 25 de junio de 2012, Doug Blair escribió:
**
Jose,

Before we all jump on your survey, may I ask what you plan to do with the 
results?

The last thing I would want to see is ad copy that says a 2012 poll of well 
known Remedy programers thinks all the recent releases are buggy.

(Yes, of course there are bugs. It's software!)

If you have reason to believe the releases are buggy, I for one would love to 
hear how you have addressed the issues you've encountered. I'd view that as a 
positive contribution to our little ecosystem.

Doug

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On Jun 24, 2012, at 6:08 AM, Jose Huerta 
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 wrote:
** Hi all,

A survay about buggy versions of Remedy. Please connect to 
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M8KH73Y and answer. It's only one question, so it 
will take less than a minute.

Thanks!

Jose Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/
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Server group alias in notification web URL

2012-06-25 Thread Nau, Michael
Hi List,

 

we have two servers running ARS 7.0.01 as a group, and one MidTier
server running V7.5.

On SYS:Notification Messages I have configured Incident Assignment
Notifications to include both an artask attachment for fullclient users
and a web URL for midtier users.

 

The server parameter in the web URK always points to the alias of the
first server of the group. Since our midtier only knows the group alias,
users who click on the link are getting an error message. How can I tell
the servers to use the group alias in the web URL? Here's an example of
the web URL the server is sending (I masked the server name):

 

https://remedy/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=xx
xxxeid=NTS12961712

 

 

 

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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Personally, I think BMC needs to redefine its versioning criteria after
seeing what happened with 7.6.03 to 7.6.04. I still can't make sense of how
04 was a maintenance release.


Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

**
Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new features
and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.

Cheers.!
prawin

 I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new
 feature to call it 8.0.

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  ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
 
  Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm sure
  that you'll have the correct answer.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: Buggy version survey

2012-06-25 Thread arslist
You also need some demographics on the responders to validate the response.

 

IF they only have experience with 7.5 and 7.6 they will never know that 
relative to version 4.0 everything else has been a cakewalk.

What if the platform makes a difference?

 

Any data you are collecting is so subjective and limited that it is really 
quite useless for virtually any purpose.

Self selecting, how do you determine that you have a big enough and random 
sample?

 

(I have always wanted to find the time to be able to compare number of major 
issues in a BMC Remedy release versus Other companies

releases but that becomes quite difficult in terms of measuring apples to 
apples).

 

Daniel

 

 

 

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Sent: June 25, 2012 10:10 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buggy version survey

 

** 

I think Doug has a good point. Because of the way data like this could be used, 
it wouldn’t hurt to have a statement at the beginning, something like:  This 
data is being collected by {state your name/company here} and will be used for 
gathering information in order to help improve the BMC Remedy product and to 
help BMC Remedy users. It will NOT be used in any sales, marketing, promotion 
or other advertising or used as a basis for same.

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:16 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Buggy version survey

 

** Doug,

 First, the poll is to check one concept before publishing anything about it. 
Second, I won't extract wrong conclusions from the poll. That is, if the most 
voTed version is the last it doesn't mean that it's buggy (it is a relative 
question, not absolute). Even it doesn't mean that it is the most buggy. New 
developers will talk only about last versions. Also, peoples memory is short 
term at many cases, so they easy forgot about old versions and only see what is 
happening to them now.

 

In fact I though that 7.5 will be the most buggy, but current results are not 
in that direction.

 

To summarize, as an independent writer I want to tell truth, without any 
concern about if it likes or doesn't like BMC. But also I'm not a 
sensationalist writer, or at least I think it. And every time I tell my opinion 
through the blog, I try to make it clear: it's my opinion, not the thruth.


El lunes, 25 de junio de 2012, Doug Blair escribió:

** 

Jose,

 

Before we all jump on your survey, may I ask what you plan to do with the 
results? 

 

The last thing I would want to see is ad copy that says a 2012 poll of well 
known Remedy programers thinks all the recent releases are buggy.

 

(Yes, of course there are bugs. It's software!)

 

If you have reason to believe the releases are buggy, I for one would love to 
hear how you have addressed the issues you've encountered. I'd view that as a 
positive contribution to our little ecosystem.


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** Hi all,

 

A survay about buggy versions of Remedy. Please connect to 
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M8KH73Y and answer. It's only one question, so it 
will take less than a minute.

 

Thanks! 

 

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Re: Server group alias in notification web URL

2012-06-25 Thread Jlbess
You'll need to add a filter on ar system email messages to perform a replace 
action on the body of the message to update the URL with the correct name.

On submit if 
'Plain Text Body' LIKE %server=x% AND 'Message Type' = Outgoing

Set fields
Plain Text Body = REPLACE($Plain Text Body$, server=x, 
server=yy)



Jason

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 **
 Hi List,
  
 we have two servers running ARS 7.0.01 as a group, and one MidTier server 
 running V7.5.
 On “SYS:Notification Messages” I have configured Incident Assignment 
 Notifications to include both an artask attachment for fullclient users and a 
 web URL for midtier users.
  
 The server parameter in the web URK always points to the alias of the first 
 server of the group. Since our midtier only knows the group alias, users who 
 click on the link are getting an error message. How can I tell the servers to 
 use the group alias in the web URL? Here’s an example of the web URL the 
 server is sending (I masked the server name):
  
 https://remedy/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=xeid=NTS12961712
  
  
  
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Re: Server group alias in notification web URL

2012-06-25 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Michael,
The server sends the notification out as it 'knows itself'so if it knows 
itself via name1 instead of the group alias...that is what you will get.  You 
should be able to configure both servers in the group to know themselves as the 
group name, and use the Server-Connect-Name for the server group node specific 
stuff (that's how I've set it up in the past)

Or you could use the email replace filter as previously suggested.

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Server group alias in notification web URL

** 

Hi List,

 

we have two servers running ARS 7.0.01 as a group, and one MidTier server 
running V7.5.

On SYS:Notification Messages I have configured Incident Assignment 
Notifications to include both an artask attachment for fullclient users and a 
web URL for midtier users.

 

The server parameter in the web URK always points to the alias of the first 
server of the group. Since our midtier only knows the group alias, users who 
click on the link are getting an error message. How can I tell the servers to 
use the group alias in the web URL? Here's an example of the web URL the server 
is sending (I masked the server name):

 

https://remedy/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=xeid=NTS12961712

 

 

 

Regards,

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Re: Server group alias in notification web URL

2012-06-25 Thread Nau, Michael
Thanks guys,

I'll have a look at the implications of changing the server names and
then decide which path I'll take.

Regards 
Michael


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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 5:07 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Server group alias in notification web URL

Michael,
The server sends the notification out as it 'knows itself'so if it
knows itself via name1 instead of the group alias...that is what you
will get.  You should be able to configure both servers in the group to
know themselves as the group name, and use the Server-Connect-Name for
the server group node specific stuff (that's how I've set it up in the
past)

Or you could use the email replace filter as previously suggested.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nau, Michael
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Server group alias in notification web URL

** 

Hi List,

 

we have two servers running ARS 7.0.01 as a group, and one MidTier
server running V7.5.

On SYS:Notification Messages I have configured Incident Assignment
Notifications to include both an artask attachment for fullclient users
and a web URL for midtier users.

 

The server parameter in the web URK always points to the alias of the
first server of the group. Since our midtier only knows the group alias,
users who click on the link are getting an error message. How can I tell
the servers to use the group alias in the web URL? Here's an example of
the web URL the server is sending (I masked the server name):

 

https://remedy/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=xx
xxxeid=NTS12961712

 

 

 

Regards,

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Re: Buggy version survey

2012-06-25 Thread Jose Huerta
I agree. But I though that a large survey will discourage people and they
won't fill it. So I tried to make it as simple as possible.

As I said I know that the conclusion of such a poll can't be very defined.

It is just an excuse to introduce some topics on  my blog. They're more
about deployment best practices, that a critic to BMC.

Finally, my intention is not to say sentences like Remedy is plenty of
bugs this is impossible to do with this survey. And if I would do, I will
be discrediting myself.



El lunes, 25 de junio de 2012, Pierson, Shawn escribió:

 **

 If I were to make such a survey, I’d probably come up with a range of ten
 questions or less, including things like:

 ** **

 **1)  **Are you a Remedy user, a Remedy technical person, or
 management?

 **2)  **How many years experience do you have administering or
 development with Remedy?

 **3)  **Do you run BMC ITSM and other OOtB applications only, custom
 applications only, or a mix?

 **4)  **What version of ARSystem are you currently on?

 **5)  **What version of ITSM are you currently on?

 **6)  **What was the best version you have worked with?

 **7)  **Why do you feel it was the best?

 **8)  **What was the worst version you have worked with?

 **9)  **Why do you feel it was the worst?

 **10)   **What could be done to improve upon the version that you are
 currently on?

 ** **

 Thanks,

 ** **

 *Shawn Pierson *

 Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer 

 ** **

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 ** 

 You also need some demographics on the responders to validate the response.
 

 ** **

 IF they only have experience with 7.5 and 7.6 they will never know that
 relative to version 4.0 everything else has been a cakewalk.

 What if the platform makes a difference?

 ** **

 Any data you are collecting is so subjective and limited that it is really
 quite useless for virtually any purpose.

 Self selecting, how do you determine that you have a big enough and random
 sample?

 ** **

 (I have always wanted to find the time to be able to compare number of
 major issues in a BMC Remedy release versus Other companies

 releases but that becomes quite difficult in terms of measuring apples to
 apples).

 ** **

 Daniel

 ** **

 ** **

 ** **

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 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Buggy version survey

 ** **

 ** 

 I think Doug has a good point. Because of the way data like this could be
 used, it wouldn’t hurt to have a statement at the beginning, something
 like:  This data is being collected by {state your name/company here} and
 will be used for gathering information in order to help improve the BMC
 Remedy product and to help BMC Remedy users. It will NOT be used in any
 sales, marketing, promotion or other advertising or used as a basis for
 same.

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Approval by mail

2012-06-25 Thread Logan, Kelly
There has been a request to have simple approvals done by mail for the bulk of 
management who do not (as of yet) use Remedy. The system will by ARS 7.6.4, 
with ITSM 7.6.4, specifically Service Request Management used.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

Right now I'm just looking to set the difficulty of the task, as compared with 
the 'pain' of having to train and direct management to use Approval Central. I 
am considering using the Email engine with responses set by a form in the email 
(the manager clicks the 'Approved' radio button and the return email sets the 
field:value pairs accordingly), embedding the Approval Central into the email 
in some fashion (though this may be disallowed by the Exchange security and 
would require SSO to be configured), etc.

Ideas and experience welcome.

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Re: Approval by mail

2012-06-25 Thread Axton
Some downsides to using email:
- there is not guaranteed transport of an email message (they could be lost)
- emails are easily  impersonated (anyone will be able to approve anything
and it can easily be done in a way that chasing a trail of
an impersonated message will be near impossible)

You might consider embedding a link in the email and use the URL to process
the approval/rejection.  One link for reject, another link for approve.
 This will force the user to authenticate before the transaction is
accepted.  This approach addresses the two shortcomings of using email
messages, as listed above.

The web page can be set up to be very simple, such that it simply returns a
confirmation message that their approval or rejection was accepted.

Axton Grams

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 There has been a request to have simple approvals done by mail for the
 bulk of management who do not (as of yet) use Remedy. The system will by
 ARS 7.6.4, with ITSM 7.6.4, specifically Service Request Management used.*
 ***

 ** **

 Has anyone had any experience with this?

 ** **

 Right now I’m just looking to set the difficulty of the task, as compared
 with the ‘pain’ of having to train and direct management to use Approval
 Central. I am considering using the Email engine with responses set by a
 form in the email (the manager clicks the ‘Approved’ radio button and the
 return email sets the field:value pairs accordingly), embedding the
 Approval Central into the email in some fashion (though this may be
 disallowed by the Exchange security and would require SSO to be
 configured), etc.

 ** **

 Ideas and experience welcome.

 ** **

 *Kelly Logan*, Sr. Systems Administrator (Remedy, Planview), GMS

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Re: Approval by mail

2012-06-25 Thread Pierson, Shawn
What I set up (that I can't share, unfortunately) is that I created an 
intermediate form for approvals that updates the back-end approval form for 
approvers and alternates.  I also adjusted the emails that go out in 
SYS:Notification Messages (I think that's the form name) to include some 
specially built hyperlinks to generate AR System Email templates to submit to 
my custom form.  What happens is that the user clicks the mailto hyperlink, 
which creates the email with the template, and they click send.  Once that 
happens, we're using incoming MAPI email to pull in the email, which Remedy out 
of the box maps to the user record based on how I have the incoming email 
configured.  The template then triggers some filters that check whether the 
person is the approver or an alternate, then updates the approval record 
appropriately.

The only down side is that anyone that can be an approver needs to have a 
floating AR User license set up, unlike using Approval Central.  This isn't a 
big deal though, because one customization I've done is to create a Business 
Approver support group to put all users in, and I don't allow people who are 
not in a support group to be added as an approver.  This also helps ensure that 
the user is properly trained and understands exactly what this change 
approval thing is rather than just being throw to the wolves by a developer.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Approval by mail

**
There has been a request to have simple approvals done by mail for the bulk of 
management who do not (as of yet) use Remedy. The system will by ARS 7.6.4, 
with ITSM 7.6.4, specifically Service Request Management used.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

Right now I'm just looking to set the difficulty of the task, as compared with 
the 'pain' of having to train and direct management to use Approval Central. I 
am considering using the Email engine with responses set by a form in the email 
(the manager clicks the 'Approved' radio button and the return email sets the 
field:value pairs accordingly), embedding the Approval Central into the email 
in some fashion (though this may be disallowed by the Exchange security and 
would require SSO to be configured), etc.

Ideas and experience welcome.

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7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread Jase Brandon
Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support
group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an
auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they
are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id,
different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem
to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and
the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

That’s weird.. did they call it a maintenance release? No way it wasn’t.. With 
the introduction of something so foreign to the ARS as the overlays, it can’t 
be considered a maintenance release.. It was a major release..

In my opinion, any release that changes the structure of the underlying 
database IS NOT a maintenance release. Changes to the DB structure, should be 
one of the several other criteria, that determines if a release ought to be 
qualified as a major release..

If they had already changed the structure of the DB in 7.6.03, and then 
leveraged that new structure in 7.6.04, then yes, it can be argued as a 
maintenance release, but I do not think this was the case. The DB structure was 
altered in 7.6.04 to accommodate the overlays feature, and not in 7.6.03..

Joe

From: Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:25 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Next ARS version

** 
Personally, I think BMC needs to redefine its versioning criteria after seeing 
what happened with 7.6.03 to 7.6.04. I still can't make sense of how 04 was a 
maintenance release.


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  ** 
  Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new features 
and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.  

  Cheers.!
  prawin

   
   I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new 
   feature to call it 8.0.
   
   On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
** I'm a bit confused about next version.
   
Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm sure 
that you'll have the correct answer.
   
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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
What I remember from that time is that 7.6.3 was supposed to be 8but they 
realigned things to internal numbering practices...and was originally supposed 
to include overlays...but they couldn't get it hardened before GA...so they 
released 7.6.3 without itand then 'shortly' later released 7.6.4 which was 
the 'finished product' that 7.6.3 was supposed to be...

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 12:58 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Next ARS version

** 
 
That’s weird.. did they call it a maintenance release? No way it wasn’t.. With 
the introduction of something so foreign to the ARS as the overlays, it can’t 
be considered a maintenance release.. It was a major release..
 
In my opinion, any release that changes the structure of the underlying 
database IS NOT a maintenance release. Changes to the DB structure, should be 
one of the several other criteria, that determines if a release ought to be 
qualified as a major release..
 
If they had already changed the structure of the DB in 7.6.03, and then 
leveraged that new structure in 7.6.04, then yes, it can be argued as a 
maintenance release, but I do not think this was the case. The DB structure was 
altered in 7.6.04 to accommodate the overlays feature, and not in 7.6.03..
 
Joe
 
From: Tauf Chowdhury mailto:taufc...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:25 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Next ARS version
 
** 
Personally, I think BMC needs to redefine its versioning criteria after seeing 
what happened with 7.6.03 to 7.6.04. I still can't make sense of how 04 was a 
maintenance release.


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Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new 
features and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.  
 
Cheers.!
prawin

 
 I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough new 
 feature to call it 8.0.
 
 On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
  ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
 
  Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0. I'm 
sure 
  that you'll have the correct answer.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread David M. Clark
Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. That 
employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support group, 
and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an auditor 
queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they are going 
to get everything from both users who shared a login id, different data, 
different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem to remember having 
the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't 
do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread patrick zandi
Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License
violation.


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.govwrote:

 **

 Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.

 ** **
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 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jase Brandon
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** **

 ** Hello All,
 What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
 My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
 That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support
 group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an
 auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they
 are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id,
 different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem
 to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and
 the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

 Thanks,

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread Jon Slaven
Just from a managerial standpoint, this is an auditing nightmare.  There's 
no benefit or cost savings from recycling generic user ID's, except maybe 
a couple minutes of setting up the account.

Thanks,
Jon
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From:   David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date:   06/25/2012 03:06 PM
Subject:Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
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arslist@ARSLIST.ORG



** 
Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.
 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
** Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's? 
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. 
That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support 
group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an 
auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, 
they are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id, 
different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem 
to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past 
and the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
I don't think he was talking about generic ID'sI think he was talking about 
a scenario along the lines of

John Doe, his ID is doej, works in the system for 6 months and then leaves the 
companyhis ID is 'removed' from the environmentthen 6 months later his 
brother Jack starts there...based on the corp standard, his ID would also be 
doejand being John doesn't work there anymoredoej is now available

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Just from a managerial standpoint, this is an auditing nightmare.  There's 
no benefit or cost savings from recycling generic user ID's, except maybe a 
couple minutes of setting up the account. 

Thanks, 
Jon 
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From:David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov 
To:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Date:06/25/2012 03:06 PM 
Subject:Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's 
Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 






** 
Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more. 
  




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Brandon
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's 
  
** Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's? 
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. That 
employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support group, 
and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an auditor 
queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they are going 
to get everything from both users who shared a login id, different data, 
different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem to remember having 
the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't 
do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
It would not be a EULA violation – as long as its not 2 physical individuals 
using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any EULA...

However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad idea. 
Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is referenced by the 
Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique identifier that is actually 
used within searches to separate one login ID from the other in the event that 
you have two login ID’s with the same value, one of which is retired and the 
other active..

So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be created 
to something slightly different.

Joe

From: patrick zandi 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License 
violation.



On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:

  ** 
  Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.




--

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's



  ** Hello All,
  What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's? 
  My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. 
That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support 
group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an 
auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they are 
going to get everything from both users who shared a login id, different data, 
different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem to remember having 
the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't 
do that - thoughts anyone?

  Thanks,

  Jase

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread patrick zandi
That is what I was thinking..
however I love that user1 submited a ticket, and user1 submitted a change
request but user1 is not here any longer, because user1 submitted an srm to
have user1's account removed after his departure..


On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.netwrote:

 **
  It would not be a EULA violation – as long as its not 2 physical
 individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any
 EULA...

 However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad
 idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is
 referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
 identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login ID
 from the other in the event that you have two login ID’s with the same
 value, one of which is retired and the other active..

 So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be
 created to something slightly different.

 Joe

  *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License
 violation.


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.govwrote:

 **

 Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.

 
  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jase Brandon
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 

 ** Hello All,
 What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
 My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6
 months. That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new
 support group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id.
 Now if an auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' =
 User1, they are going to get everything from both users who shared a
 login id, different data, different support groups, basically a mess -
 right? I seem to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion
 in the past and the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

 Thanks,

 Jase

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread David M. Clark
Jase, do your Remedy users have network login ID's?  If so, use those.

The burden of uniqueness is then removed from you and placed upon your network 
team.

-D


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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:22 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** That is what I was thinking..
however I love that user1 submited a ticket, and user1 submitted a change 
request but user1 is not here any longer, because user1 submitted an srm to 
have user1's account removed after his departure..

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza 
jdso...@shyle.netmailto:jdso...@shyle.net wrote:
**
It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical individuals 
using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any EULA...

However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad idea. 
Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is referenced by the 
Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique identifier that is actually 
used within searches to separate one login ID from the other in the event that 
you have two login ID's with the same value, one of which is retired and the 
other active..

So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be created 
to something slightly different.

Joe

From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License 
violation.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark 
david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
**
Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.


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Brandon
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. That 
employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support group, 
and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an auditor 
queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they are going 
to get everything from both users who shared a login id, different data, 
different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem to remember having 
the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't 
do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

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List of ITSM Web Services

2012-06-25 Thread Terry Bootsma
Hello everyone:
 
Well, it's a Monday... :-)
 
I can't, find out where the list of ITSM 7.6 (04) Web Services are
documented.  I've been through the documentation on the support site and
can't seem to find it.  I'm sure it's a minor oversight.  Can anyone help
out?
 
 
Thx.
 
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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-25 Thread Jase Brandon
Hello All,
Thanks for all the replies! That's what I thought... I remember discussing
this in the past and the answer was a plethora of reasons for DON'T DO
THAT! :-)

Thanks Again - I will convey this to the chiefs and write my cover your
butt email recommending this practice not be followed going forward. :-)

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.govwrote:

 **

 Jase, do your Remedy users have network login ID’s?  If so, use those.

 ** **

 The burden of uniqueness is then removed from you and placed upon your
 network team. 

 ** **

 -D

 ** **
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 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 2:22 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 

  ** **

 ** That is what I was thinking..
 however I love that user1 submited a ticket, and user1 submitted a change
 request but user1 is not here any longer, because user1 submitted an srm to
 have user1's account removed after his departure..

 

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
 wrote:

 ** 

 It would not be a EULA violation – as long as its not 2 physical
 individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any
 EULA...

  

 However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad
 idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is
 referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
 identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login ID
 from the other in the event that you have two login ID’s with the same
 value, one of which is retired and the other active..

  

 So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be
 created to something slightly different.

  

 Joe

  

 *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

 *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

  

 ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License
 violation.

 

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark david.m.cl...@tn.gov
 wrote:

 ** 

 Confirmed.  Don’t do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.

  
  --

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jase Brandon
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

  

 ** Hello All,
 What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
 My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
 That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support
 group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an
 auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they
 are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id,
 different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem
 to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and
 the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

 Thanks,

 Jase
 

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Re: List of ITSM Web Services

2012-06-25 Thread Carl Wilson
Hi,

the following document is still valid:

 

BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.6.03 Integrations

 

Cheers

Carl

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Terry Bootsma
Sent: 25 June 2012 20:38
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: List of ITSM Web Services

 

** 

Hello everyone:

 

Well, it's a Monday... :-)

 

I can't, find out where the list of ITSM 7.6 (04) Web Services are
documented.  I've been through the documentation on the support site and
can't seem to find it.  I'm sure it's a minor oversight.  Can anyone help
out?

 

 

Thx.

 

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Re: List of ITSM Web Services

2012-06-25 Thread Terry Bootsma
Thanks Carl...
 
The document does not indicate that there is a web-service for the
submission of ITSM service requests.  Is this still the case?
 
Terry
 

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: List of ITSM Web Services


** 

Hi,

the following document is still valid:

 

BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.6.03 Integrations

 

Cheers

Carl

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Terry Bootsma
Sent: 25 June 2012 20:38
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: List of ITSM Web Services

 

** 

Hello everyone:

 

Well, it's a Monday... :-)

 

I can't, find out where the list of ITSM 7.6 (04) Web Services are
documented.  I've been through the documentation on the support site and
can't seem to find it.  I'm sure it's a minor oversight.  Can anyone help
out?

 

 

Thx.

 

Terry

 

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Re: List of ITSM Web Services

2012-06-25 Thread Carl Wilson
Hi,

if you are referring to SRM, there has not been an update since version 2.0.

You can find the document here:

 

https://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-17663

 

Cheers

Carl 

 

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Sent: 25 June 2012 21:14
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: List of ITSM Web Services

 

** 

Thanks Carl...

 

The document does not indicate that there is a web-service for the
submission of ITSM service requests.  Is this still the case?

 

Terry

 

 

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:01 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: List of ITSM Web Services

** 

Hi,

the following document is still valid:

 

BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.6.03 Integrations

 

Cheers

Carl

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Terry Bootsma
Sent: 25 June 2012 20:38
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: List of ITSM Web Services

 

** 

Hello everyone:

 

Well, it's a Monday... :-)

 

I can't, find out where the list of ITSM 7.6 (04) Web Services are
documented.  I've been through the documentation on the support site and
can't seem to find it.  I'm sure it's a minor oversight.  Can anyone help
out?

 

 

Thx.

 

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Re: Server group alias in notification web URL

2012-06-25 Thread ravi rai

Michael,
You can refe white paper on server group for more detail on what LJ is 
suggeting 
Page 12-13 
 
Ravi Rai  
 

 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:06:35 -0600
 From: lj.longwing@mda.mil
 Subject: Re: Server group alias in notification web URL
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 Michael,
 The server sends the notification out as it 'knows itself'so if it knows 
 itself via name1 instead of the group alias...that is what you will get. You 
 should be able to configure both servers in the group to know themselves as 
 the group name, and use the Server-Connect-Name for the server group node 
 specific stuff (that's how I've set it up in the past)
 
 Or you could use the email replace filter as previously suggested.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nau, Michael
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:21 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Server group alias in notification web URL
 
 ** 
 
 Hi List,
 
 
 
 we have two servers running ARS 7.0.01 as a group, and one MidTier server 
 running V7.5.
 
 On SYS:Notification Messages I have configured Incident Assignment 
 Notifications to include both an artask attachment for fullclient users and a 
 web URL for midtier users.
 
 
 
 The server parameter in the web URK always points to the alias of the first 
 server of the group. Since our midtier only knows the group alias, users who 
 click on the link are getting an error message. How can I tell the servers to 
 use the group alias in the web URL? Here's an example of the web URL the 
 server is sending (I masked the server name):
 
 
 
 https://remedy/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifierserver=xeid=NTS12961712
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Michael
 
 
 
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Re: Next ARS version

2012-06-25 Thread Susan Palmer
What does it really matter what the number is?  The content is what
matters.  We'll be told when they want us to know.  That's been the mantra
since I started using Remedy in 1995, don't bother asking ...we're not
telling.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC 
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 What I remember from that time is that 7.6.3 was supposed to be 8but
 they realigned things to internal numbering practices...and was originally
 supposed to include overlays...but they couldn't get it hardened before
 GA...so they released 7.6.3 without itand then 'shortly' later released
 7.6.4 which was the 'finished product' that 7.6.3 was supposed to be...

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 12:58 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Next ARS version

 **

 That’s weird.. did they call it a maintenance release? No way it wasn’t..
 With the introduction of something so foreign to the ARS as the overlays,
 it can’t be considered a maintenance release.. It was a major release..

 In my opinion, any release that changes the structure of the underlying
 database IS NOT a maintenance release. Changes to the DB structure, should
 be one of the several other criteria, that determines if a release ought to
 be qualified as a major release..

 If they had already changed the structure of the DB in 7.6.03, and then
 leveraged that new structure in 7.6.04, then yes, it can be argued as a
 maintenance release, but I do not think this was the case. The DB structure
 was altered in 7.6.04 to accommodate the overlays feature, and not in
 7.6.03..

 Joe

 From: Tauf Chowdhury mailto:taufc...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:25 AM
 Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Next ARS version

 **
 Personally, I think BMC needs to redefine its versioning criteria after
 seeing what happened with 7.6.03 to 7.6.04. I still can't make sense of how
 04 was a maintenance release.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 24, 2012, at 11:11 AM, praveen kumar prawin_ku...@hotmail.com
 wrote:



**
Yes..! next ARS release will be 8.0 confirmed by BMC. Loads of new
 features and expectations. Fingers crossed for the upcoming release.

Cheers.!
prawin


 I think it was to be 7.7, but then BMC decided there are enough
 new
 feature to call it 8.0.

 On 24/06/2012 12:22, Jose Huerta wrote:
  ** I'm a bit confused about next version.
 
  Some people told me that it will be 7.7, but others say 8.0.
 I'm sure
  that you'll have the correct answer.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jose Huerta
  http://theremedyforit.com/
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