Re: Data Management Client on Windows 7

2012-06-29 Thread Peter Romain
I found that if there are spaces in the directory path then it didn't work so 
installed it in a C:\BMCSoftware directory and it works fine with Excel 2010.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: 28 June 2012 18:04
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Data Management Client on Windows 7

Has anyone installe the Data Management Client on a Windows 7 workstation with 
excel 2010?  By default the application installed in the 32 bit Program Files 
(x86) folder, and even though when I'm trying to use the DMT tool for 
foundation upload and I select the correct path to for the DMT install, the 
worksheets are not opened and converted correctly.  For some reason the 
worksheet is opened with a hard value of the DMT install path of /Program 
Files/ instead of /Program Files (x86).

Has anyone had any luck getting the Data Management Client to work with Windows 
7?  I tried opening a ticket with BMC and after two weeks of going back and 
forth they said it was part of the design and excel that to be 2003.

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Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

I would divide it into two things. One is budget, and the other thing how
you actually do when you buy your licenses.

Budget:
1. Look into the sky and figure out your concurrent user count
2. Do a 1:1 ratio (50% fixed 50% floating) and use that as a basis for
your budget

Buying licenses:
1. Buy a minimum number of licenses
2. Buy RRR|License --- ADV
3. Increase the license count on your server as dictated by RRR|License
for a month or three
4. Pay BMC for the number of extra licenses that you figured out that you
REALLY need

This goes for new ITSM systems or custom systems, or as in your case a new
custom application that rides beside an existing system.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Hi Misi,
 But in your experience how do you do when it is for budgeting purposes,
 these are custom applications that have not been used before and they need
 to provision the licenses needed for the future load ... you say the only
 way to have a number close to reality is based only in previous usage
 analysis?
 Regards,
 Mauricio

 2012/6/28 Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se

 Hi,

 I would say that there is no rule of thumb.

 Even if you have historical data, you could come up with 5:1 or 1:5, all
 depending how your system is used.

 One days worth of data will give you some information, and one week will
 give you a very good estimate.

 You can even try the free version of RRR|License, and it will tell you
 the
 ratio that is optimum for you. You can even use the change planner in
 the
 test version, where you can put in a future number of expected users:
 http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrLicChangePlanner.html

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
 logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

  Hi Jose,
 
  So in order to simplify a model, don´t you think you can compare this
  distribution to the behaviour of ocassional users logging in and
 updating
  records? because RRRLicense measures over a period of time and I do
 not
  have historical data and no window frame to measure from this present
 time
  into the future
 
  Thank you!!!
 
  Mauricio
 
  2012/6/28 Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
 
  ** Erlang formulas assume Poisson distribution. Your team won't be
  distributed in any computable wat. So I recommend you to study the
 use.
  Maybe you can try the RRR|License tool.
 
  Jose M. Huerta
  Project Manager**
 
  Movil: 661 665 088
 
  Telf.: 971 75 03 24
 
  Fax: 971 75 07 94
 
   http://www.sm2baleares.es/
 
  SM2 Baleares S.A.
  C/Rita Levi 
 
  Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
 
  07121 Palma de Mallorca
 
http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954
  http://twitter.com/#%21/SM2Baleares
   http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares
 
  La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
  confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente
  sea
  leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este
  mensaje
  por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le
  rogamos
  que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias
  del
  mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo
 de
  inmediato.
 
  P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no
 es
  necesario.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Mauricio M. mau.rem...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  ** Hello All,
 
 
  I know this is and old age question but it continues to be relevant
 on
  how you estimate the appropiate number of floating licenses that
 will
  be
  needed in the near future for a given application, but not taking
 into
  account any past behaviour, I mean, suppose that we do not have
  historical
  data to reference, but only an expected behaviour in regards to a
 total
  number of users, total number of tickets, etc. As a rule of thumb we
  might
  use a given proportion, 3:1 or 5:1 but how you normally manage to
 hold
  up a
  more solid number? I was wondering if anyone has used Erlang
 formulas
  to
  get a more solid number?
 
  Thank you and Regards,
 
  -Mauricio
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Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Jose Huerta
I think that the problem is that he can't buy extra licenses. I mean, He
needs to provide a budget to assist the decision of buying Remedy. To buy a
minimum number of licenses and then increase as needed, is to make the
decision without known the final TCO.


Jose M. Huerta
Project Manager**

Movil: 661 665 088

Telf.: 971 75 03 24

Fax: 971 75 07 94

 http://www.sm2baleares.es/

SM2 Baleares S.A.
C/Rita Levi 

Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

07121 Palma de Mallorca

  http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954
  http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares
 http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares

La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
inmediato.

P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
necesario.



On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 I would divide it into two things. One is budget, and the other thing how
 you actually do when you buy your licenses.

 Budget:
 1. Look into the sky and figure out your concurrent user count
 2. Do a 1:1 ratio (50% fixed 50% floating) and use that as a basis for
 your budget

 Buying licenses:
 1. Buy a minimum number of licenses
 2. Buy RRR|License --- ADV
 3. Increase the license count on your server as dictated by RRR|License
 for a month or three
 4. Pay BMC for the number of extra licenses that you figured out that you
 REALLY need

 This goes for new ITSM systems or custom systems, or as in your case a new
 custom application that rides beside an existing system.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

  Hi Misi,
  But in your experience how do you do when it is for budgeting purposes,
  these are custom applications that have not been used before and they
 need
  to provision the licenses needed for the future load ... you say the only
  way to have a number close to reality is based only in previous usage
  analysis?
  Regards,
  Mauricio
 
  2012/6/28 Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
 
  Hi,
 
  I would say that there is no rule of thumb.
 
  Even if you have historical data, you could come up with 5:1 or 1:5, all
  depending how your system is used.
 
  One days worth of data will give you some information, and one week will
  give you a very good estimate.
 
  You can even try the free version of RRR|License, and it will tell you
  the
  ratio that is optimum for you. You can even use the change planner in
  the
  test version, where you can put in a future number of expected users:
  http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrLicChangePlanner.html
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)
 
  Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
  * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
  * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
  logs.
  Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
  http://rrr.se.
 
   Hi Jose,
  
   So in order to simplify a model, don´t you think you can compare this
   distribution to the behaviour of ocassional users logging in and
  updating
   records? because RRRLicense measures over a period of time and I do
  not
   have historical data and no window frame to measure from this present
  time
   into the future
  
   Thank you!!!
  
   Mauricio
  
   2012/6/28 Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
  
   ** Erlang formulas assume Poisson distribution. Your team won't be
   distributed in any computable wat. So I recommend you to study the
  use.
   Maybe you can try the RRR|License tool.
  
   Jose M. Huerta
   Project Manager**
  
   Movil: 661 665 088
  
   Telf.: 971 75 03 24
  
   Fax: 971 75 07 94
  
http://www.sm2baleares.es/
  
   SM2 Baleares S.A.
   C/Rita Levi 
  
   Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
  
   07121 Palma de Mallorca
  
 http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954
 
   http://twitter.com/#%21/SM2Baleares
http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares
  
   La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
   confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente
   sea
   leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este
   mensaje
   por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le
   

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

In that case they need to spend much more money, as they have to spend
according to the budget instead of their actual need.

I understand that you NEED a budget, but that does not mean that you have
to SPEND the whole budget.

And I also understand that sales reps might have a different idea on how
to proceed, as this way of doing it invariably saves the customer money...

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

 I think that the problem is that he can't buy extra licenses. I mean, He
 needs to provide a budget to assist the decision of buying Remedy. To buy
 a
 minimum number of licenses and then increase as needed, is to make the
 decision without known the final TCO.


 Jose M. Huerta
 Project Manager**

 Movil: 661 665 088

 Telf.: 971 75 03 24

 Fax: 971 75 07 94

  http://www.sm2baleares.es/

 SM2 Baleares S.A.
 C/Rita Levi 

 Edificio SM2 Parc Bit

 07121 Palma de Mallorca

   http://es-es.facebook.com/pages/SM2-Baleares/158608627954
   http://twitter.com/#!/SM2Baleares
  http://www.linkedin.com/company/sm2-baleares

 La información contenida en este mensaje de correo electrónico es
 confidencial. La misma, es enviada con la intención de que únicamente sea
 leída por la persona(s) a la(s) que va dirigida. El acceso a este mensaje
 por otras personas no está autorizado, por lo que en tal caso, le rogamos
 que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
 mensaje o remitirlo o entregarlo a otra persona y proceda a borrarlo de
 inmediato.

 P Por favor, no imprima este mensaje ni sus documentos adjuntos si no es
 necesario.



 On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:

 Hi,

 I would divide it into two things. One is budget, and the other thing
 how
 you actually do when you buy your licenses.

 Budget:
 1. Look into the sky and figure out your concurrent user count
 2. Do a 1:1 ratio (50% fixed 50% floating) and use that as a basis for
 your budget

 Buying licenses:
 1. Buy a minimum number of licenses
 2. Buy RRR|License --- ADV
 3. Increase the license count on your server as dictated by RRR|License
 for a month or three
 4. Pay BMC for the number of extra licenses that you figured out that
 you
 REALLY need

 This goes for new ITSM systems or custom systems, or as in your case a
 new
 custom application that rides beside an existing system.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
 logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

  Hi Misi,
  But in your experience how do you do when it is for budgeting
 purposes,
  these are custom applications that have not been used before and they
 need
  to provision the licenses needed for the future load ... you say the
 only
  way to have a number close to reality is based only in previous usage
  analysis?
  Regards,
  Mauricio
 
  2012/6/28 Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
 
  Hi,
 
  I would say that there is no rule of thumb.
 
  Even if you have historical data, you could come up with 5:1 or 1:5,
 all
  depending how your system is used.
 
  One days worth of data will give you some information, and one week
 will
  give you a very good estimate.
 
  You can even try the free version of RRR|License, and it will tell
 you
  the
  ratio that is optimum for you. You can even use the change planner in
  the
  test version, where you can put in a future number of expected users:
  http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrLicChangePlanner.html
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)
 
  Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
  * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
  * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
  logs.
  Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
  http://rrr.se.
 
   Hi Jose,
  
   So in order to simplify a model, don´t you think you can compare
 this
   distribution to the behaviour of ocassional users logging in and
  updating
   records? because RRRLicense measures over a period of time and I do
  not
   have historical data and no window frame to measure from this
 present
  time
   into the future
  
   Thank you!!!
  
   Mauricio
  
   2012/6/28 Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
  
   ** Erlang formulas assume Poisson distribution. Your team won't be
   distributed in any computable wat. So I recommend you to study the
  use.
   Maybe you can try the RRR|License tool.
  
   Jose M. Huerta
   Project Manager**
  
   Movil: 661 665 088
  
   Telf.: 971 75 03 24
  
   Fax: 971 75 07 94
  
http://www.sm2baleares.es/
  
   SM2 Baleares S.A.
   C/Rita Levi 
  
   Edificio SM2 Parc Bit
  
   07121 Palma de Mallorca
  
  

Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread David Durling
This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA against a 
system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy username to match the 
external one, but then there is the potential for the problems mentioned below.

There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of course - but 
not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I suppose I could store 
the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup after every login (would maybe 
have to set up an init-form to trigger the workflow on login) to see if it 
matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record  retire the old, and use 
this record to stamp this unique id on any requests created by the user.   But 
then how to allow-disallow access to the records?   Not sure it's workable.  
Does anyone have a good way to handle this?

David Durling
University of Georgia


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

**
It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical individuals 
using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any EULA...

However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad idea. 
Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is referenced by the 
Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique identifier that is actually 
used within searches to separate one login ID from the other in the event that 
you have two login ID's with the same value, one of which is retired and the 
other active..

So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be created 
to something slightly different.

Joe

From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License 
violation.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark 
david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
**
Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase 
Brandon
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

** Hello All,
What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months. That 
employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support group, 
and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an auditor 
queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1, they are going 
to get everything from both users who shared a login id, different data, 
different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem to remember having 
the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't 
do that - thoughts anyone?

Thanks,

Jase

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Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
the incident search and new windows.

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave one 
the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident new or 
search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is ActiveLink: 
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
False actions: and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but if 
I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. Also I 
have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with no 
luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex planned 
for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen anything like 
this.

By the way the load window never times out.

Any ideas?

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

Howard

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for free:
https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv

It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old login
name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and
row-level access control where you have specified login names in the
112/60xxx fields.

When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter or
something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and
still reuse a login name.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA against
 a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy username to
 match the external one, but then there is the potential for the problems
 mentioned below.

 There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of course -
 but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I suppose I
 could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup after every
 login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger the workflow on
 login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record 
 retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
 requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
 the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
 handle this?

 David Durling
 University of Georgia


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 **
 It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
 individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any
 EULA...

 However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad
 idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is
 referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
 identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login ID
 from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the same
 value, one of which is retired and the other active..

 So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be
 created to something slightly different.

 Joe

 From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
 Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License
 violation.

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark
 david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
 **
 Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.

 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase
 Brandon
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** Hello All,
 What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
 My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
 That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support
 group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an
 auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1,
 they are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id,
 different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem
 to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past
 and the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

 Thanks,

 Jase

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 _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the
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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread pritch
I've never been a fan of changing data after the fact - the new person would 
most likely have a different PPL record number and the actual name may also be 
a bit different (different middle initial, etc).  Most of the ticket info has 
names as well as login ID.

I think we spend way too much time worrying about minor items and trying to 
devise elaborate work arounds - my response to the folks asking the questions 
is 'deal with it, there's more important things to worry about'.

- Original Message -
From: Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:42:39 AM
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

Hi,

Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for free:
https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv

It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old login
name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and
row-level access control where you have specified login names in the
112/60xxx fields.

When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter or
something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and
still reuse a login name.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA against
 a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy username to
 match the external one, but then there is the potential for the problems
 mentioned below.

 There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of course -
 but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I suppose I
 could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup after every
 login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger the workflow on
 login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record 
 retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
 requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
 the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
 handle this?

 David Durling
 University of Georgia


 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 **
 It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
 individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking any
 EULA...

 However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a bad
 idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system is
 referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
 identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login ID
 from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the same
 value, one of which is retired and the other active..

 So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to be
 created to something slightly different.

 Joe

 From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
 Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that.. License
 violation.

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark
 david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
 **
 Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.

 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase
 Brandon
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 ** Hello All,
 What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
 My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
 That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new support
 group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login id. Now if an
 auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update user' = User1,
 they are going to get everything from both users who shared a login id,
 different data, different support groups, basically a mess - right? I seem
 to remember having the don't re-use login id's discussion in the past
 and the answer was don't do that - thoughts anyone?

 Thanks,

 Jase

 --
 Patrick Zandi
 _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the
 Answers Are_

 

Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread David Durling
Misi,

That is interesting!  Perhaps that could be run a couple of times a year, if I 
kept track of the IDs that have left in the meantime.

What about the Submitter (field 2) if we're running with Submitter Locked?  
Would it be changeable?

David

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for
 free:
 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv
 
 It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old login
 name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and row-
 level access control where you have specified login names in the 112/60xxx
 fields.
 
 When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter or
 something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and still 
 reuse
 a login name.
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
 
 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
 
  This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA
  against a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy
  username to match the external one, but then there is the potential
  for the problems mentioned below.
 
  There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of
  course - but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I
  suppose I could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup
  after every login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger
  the workflow on
  login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record
   retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
  requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
  the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
  handle this?
 
  David Durling
  University of Georgia
 
 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  **
  It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
  individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking
  any EULA...
 
  However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a
  bad idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system
  is referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
  identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login
  ID from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the
  same value, one of which is retired and the other active..
 
  So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to
  be created to something slightly different.
 
  Joe
 
  From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that..
  License violation.
 
  On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark
  david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
  **
  Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.
 
  
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of
  Jase Brandon
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** Hello All,
  What is the general consensus regarding re use of login id's?
  My concern is this = Login ID User1 is used by an employee for 6 months.
  That employee leaves the company. Someone new gets hired, in a new
  support group, and our support center then reuses User1 as a login
  id. Now if an auditor queries for all data modified by 'last update
  user' = User1, they are going to get everything from both users who
  shared a login id, different data, different support groups, basically
  a mess - right? I seem to remember having the don't re-use login
  id's discussion in the past and the answer was don't do that - thoughts
 anyone?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jase
 
  --
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  _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.comhttp://www.wwrug.com ARSlist:
 Where
  the Answers Are_
 
 
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2012-06-29 Thread David Zifchock
I will be out of the office starting  06/29/2012 and will not return until
07/09/2012.

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread David Durling
I understand, this is a lot of effort we're talking about; not sure I really 
want to do it.

But it's not necessarily a minor issue if jdoe had access to semi-sensitive 
or at least personally-related info, leaves employment, then a year later 
another jdoe comes on board and inadvertently gains access to info they 
shouldn't see.

On the other hand, perhaps this minor risk is worth it - just something I have 
to determine locally.
 
David


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:54 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 I've never been a fan of changing data after the fact - the new person would
 most likely have a different PPL record number and the actual name may also
 be a bit different (different middle initial, etc).  Most of the ticket info 
 has
 names as well as login ID.
 
 I think we spend way too much time worrying about minor items and trying
 to devise elaborate work arounds - my response to the folks asking the
 questions is 'deal with it, there's more important things to worry about'.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:42:39 AM
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for
 free:
 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv
 
 It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old login
 name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and row-
 level access control where you have specified login names in the 112/60xxx
 fields.
 
 When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter or
 something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and still 
 reuse
 a login name.
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
 
 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
 
  This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA
  against a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy
  username to match the external one, but then there is the potential
  for the problems mentioned below.
 
  There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of
  course - but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I
  suppose I could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup
  after every login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger
  the workflow on
  login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record
   retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
  requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
  the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
  handle this?
 
  David Durling
  University of Georgia
 
 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  **
  It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
  individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking
  any EULA...
 
  However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a
  bad idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system
  is referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
  identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login
  ID from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the
  same value, one of which is retired and the other active..
 
  So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to
  be created to something slightly different.
 
  Joe
 
  From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that..
  License violation.
 
  On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark
  david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
  **
  Confirmed.  Don't do that.  For all the reasons you mention and more.
 
  
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of
  Jase Brandon
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:49 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** 

Re: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields on INC form

2012-06-29 Thread ali_md
Jon

Are you able to view the text beyond the visible text area (when you type in
characters more than the visible text area) ?

Also, in what file (or individual forms) did you make this change?

Thanks
Ali


Jon Slaven wrote:
 
 I installed the Stylish plugin and added this as a script, seems to work 
 pretty well in the meantime.
 
 @-moz-document domain(remedy76.intranet.local) { 
 textarea.text,div.text,textarea.Editor{ overflow-x:hidden ! important; } }
 
 (Based on the workaround Tim posted earlier)
 
 That black screen is particularly jarring though...
 
 Thanks,
 Jon
 _
 Jon Slaven | Amway | 616-787-7132 | jon.sla...@amway.com
 
 
 
 From:   Tommy Morris tommy.mor...@pinebreeze.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date:   06/22/2012 03:46 PM
 Subject:Re: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character 
 Fields on INC form
 Sent by:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 
 
 
 ** 
 They probably have a disclaimer buried in the EULA concerning strobe 
 induced seizures.
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of strauss
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:36 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields 
 on INC form
  
 ** 
 Thanks for the tip; we had to open an issue on this problem, and on the 
 violently BLACK screen that now appears behind any pop-up or dialog in the 
 mid-tier if using FFv13.  That is #SW00432310 according to BMC.  I wonder 
 if Mozilla can be held liable for epileptic seizures or optical migraines 
 induced by this new misbehavior?
  
 Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
 Call Tracking Administration Manager
 University of North Texas Computing  IT Center
 http://itsm.unt.edu/ 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:28 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields 
 on INC form
  
 ** 
 We have a support ticket open on this as well. Our specialist tells me 
 it’s a CSS issue and how the CSS interacts with FFv13. Defect #SW00432406 
 logged for it.
  
 Another note.
 Once you are able to successfully downgrade to FFv12, don’t forget to go 
 into your FF option menu (Tools/Options/Advanced/Update) and change the 
 Update option from automatic to Check and Notify Me or Never. If you 
 don’t, it will auto-update itself back to v13 in short order.
  
 For those of you that can’t downgrade to FFv12 due to company polices, 
 etc., there is a workaround* that will let you use FFv13. See attached.
  
 *No guarantees on the workaround and I cannot offer any more info on it. 
 This came from BMC and I have not played with it or tested it personally.
  
 Tim
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
 mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Peters, Ron
 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:26 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields 
 on INC form
  
 ** 
 Pardon my ignorance. I understand the issue being seen in the screenshot 
 that was provided and rolling back to 12 seems to be the right 
 work-around. I really appreciate the heads-up.
  
 The question I have is this. What should the browser do if “you enter data 
 that is one character longer than the data displayed in the field length”? 
 It seems like text fields have always either wrapped text or added scroll 
 bars when the data is larger than the field. Maybe I’m confusing text 
 fields with character fields?
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:09 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: RESOLVED: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields on 
 INC form
  
 ** Thanks David - and you are 100% correct. Reverting to Firefox 12 
 completely resolved the issue. 
 
 WARNING TO ALL - FIREFOX 13 Causes scroll bars to appear in char fields 
 when you enter data that is one character longer than the data displayed 
 in the field length.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jase
 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, David Durling durl...@uga.edu wrote:
 ** 
 I’m told FF 14 beta has the issue, too.
  
 David D.
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jase Brandon
 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 1:59 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Scroll Bar randomly appearing in Character Fields on INC form
  
 ** Hi David - EXACTLY! FF13 is causing the issue.  I'm going to try to 
 download FF 12 during the interim and see if that helps.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jase
 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, David Durling durl...@uga.edu wrote:
 ** 
 Firefox 13.0 was recently released, and that’s where we’re seeing it 
 (image attached).  Is that what you’re experiencing?
  
 We are on ARS 7.5 patch 

Question about using executable from different patch

2012-06-29 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
All,
I wanted to see if any of you have experienced a case where in
troubleshooting an issue, support gave you debug versions of arserver
executables and DLL files that were a higher patch level than what you are
on.
Example: System is 7.6.03 unpatched. Debug arserver and DLL's are 7.6.03
patch 2.

-- 
*Tauf Chowdhury

*

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

Yes, it works with submitter-mode locked, because we use the API-call
ARMergeEntry, which lets you overwrite this field. It will also leave
Modify-Date and Modified-By intact, which is important sometimes.

Filters are not run either, as the skip-merge-filter flag is set.
Otherwise all kind of things could happen...

I originally wrote this piece of code for a customer who changed all of
their login ids at the same time, so the input can be a list:
miz = misi01
peter = pete05
...

Another use is when someone gets married and changes his or her name.

It is not a very complicated piece of code. It just reads all character
data in fields less than 255 characters, and performs an exact match.

The Status-History, Diary-fields is handled in a slightly different way,
and the 112/60xxx is handled by doing quoted replacement.

Only fields that actually will need changing is re-important, and if you
do it for a few users only, most of the records will not be touched.

It takes time to run though, as the tool needs to read all records in the
system.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Misi,

 That is interesting!  Perhaps that could be run a couple of times a year,
 if I kept track of the IDs that have left in the meantime.

 What about the Submitter (field 2) if we're running with Submitter Locked?
  Would it be changeable?

 David

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

 Hi,

 Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for
 free:
 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv

 It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old
 login
 name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and
 row-
 level access control where you have specified login names in the
 112/60xxx
 fields.

 When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter
 or
 something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and
 still reuse
 a login name.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
 logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
 http://rrr.se.

  This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA
  against a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy
  username to match the external one, but then there is the potential
  for the problems mentioned below.
 
  There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of
  course - but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I
  suppose I could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup
  after every login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger
  the workflow on
  login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record
   retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
  requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access
 to
  the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
  handle this?
 
  David Durling
  University of Georgia
 
 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  **
  It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
  individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking
  any EULA...
 
  However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a
  bad idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system
  is referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
  identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login
  ID from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the
  same value, one of which is retired and the other active..
 
  So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to
  be created to something slightly different.
 
  Joe
 
  From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want 

Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread pritch
If an environment is re-using logins in general - how sensitive can the data 
from one jdoe to the next be?  Guess It's just the hillbilly in me that doesn't 
have an appreciation for all this hidden data stuff.

- Original Message -
From: David Durling durl...@uga.edu
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07:11 AM
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

I understand, this is a lot of effort we're talking about; not sure I really 
want to do it.

But it's not necessarily a minor issue if jdoe had access to semi-sensitive 
or at least personally-related info, leaves employment, then a year later 
another jdoe comes on board and inadvertently gains access to info they 
shouldn't see.

On the other hand, perhaps this minor risk is worth it - just something I have 
to determine locally.
 
David


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:54 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 I've never been a fan of changing data after the fact - the new person would
 most likely have a different PPL record number and the actual name may also
 be a bit different (different middle initial, etc).  Most of the ticket info 
 has
 names as well as login ID.
 
 I think we spend way too much time worrying about minor items and trying
 to devise elaborate work arounds - my response to the folks asking the
 questions is 'deal with it, there's more important things to worry about'.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:42:39 AM
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 Hi,
 
 Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for
 free:
 https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv
 
 It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old login
 name with a new one. It even handles Status-History, Diary-fields and row-
 level access control where you have specified login names in the 112/60xxx
 fields.
 
 When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to x1peter or
 something like that. In this way you can keep all historical data and still 
 reuse
 a login name.
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
 
 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
 * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
 Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
 
  This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA
  against a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy
  username to match the external one, but then there is the potential
  for the problems mentioned below.
 
  There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of
  course - but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?  I
  suppose I could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC lookup
  after every login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to trigger
  the workflow on
  login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new record
   retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on any
  requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
  the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
  handle this?
 
  David Durling
  University of Georgia
 
 
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  **
  It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
  individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not breaking
  any EULA...
 
  However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a
  bad idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system
  is referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
  identifier that is actually used within searches to separate one login
  ID from the other in the event that you have two login ID's with the
  same value, one of which is retired and the other active..
 
  So bottom-line, if a match is found, rename the new ID that needs to
  be created to something slightly different.
 
  Joe
 
  From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:07 PM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  ** Might be a EULA violation as well.. May want to check on that..
  License violation.
 
  On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM, David M. Clark
  david.m.cl...@tn.govmailto:david.m.cl...@tn.gov wrote:
  **
  

Re: Question about using executable from different patch

2012-06-29 Thread pritch
i've mixed and matched executables on a unix box before - ran ARServer at 6.3 
patch x and DSO at a different version.

- Original Message -
From: Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:39:29 AM
Subject: Question about using executable from different patch

** All, 
I wanted to see if any of you have experienced a case where in troubleshooting 
an issue, support gave you debug versions of arserver executables and DLL files 
that were a higher patch level than what you are on. 
Example: System is 7.6.03 unpatched. Debug arserver and DLL's are 7.6.03 patch 
2. 

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Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's

2012-06-29 Thread David Durling
I know what you mean, but perhaps our more sensitive systems have something in 
place - retiring access to records when a person leaves, or additional security 
questions to access sensitive data, maybe something else.

I'm not tied in to the central administrative computing stuff, so... maybe 
something for me to look at.  Or change to unique Remedy ids.   Or determine 
it's not worth the worry.
 
David


 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:56 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 If an environment is re-using logins in general - how sensitive can the data
 from one jdoe to the next be?  Guess It's just the hillbilly in me that 
 doesn't
 have an appreciation for all this hidden data stuff.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Durling durl...@uga.edu
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07:11 AM
 Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
 I understand, this is a lot of effort we're talking about; not sure I really 
 want
 to do it.
 
 But it's not necessarily a minor issue if jdoe had access to semi-sensitive 
 or
 at least personally-related info, leaves employment, then a year later
 another jdoe comes on board and inadvertently gains access to info they
 shouldn't see.
 
 On the other hand, perhaps this minor risk is worth it - just something I have
 to determine locally.
 
 David
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
  [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:54 AM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  I've never been a fan of changing data after the fact - the new person
  would most likely have a different PPL record number and the actual
  name may also be a bit different (different middle initial, etc).
  Most of the ticket info has names as well as login ID.
 
  I think we spend way too much time worrying about minor items and
  trying to devise elaborate work arounds - my response to the folks
  asking the questions is 'deal with it, there's more important things to 
  worry
 about'.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:42:39 AM
  Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
 
  Hi,
 
  Maybe you can use RRR|LoginConv, which is a tool that we give away for
  free:
  https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrLoginConv
 
  It can walk through every record of your system, and replace the old
  login name with a new one. It even handles Status-History,
  Diary-fields and row- level access control where you have specified
  login names in the 112/60xxx fields.
 
  When you are removing a login name, change it from peter to
  x1peter or something like that. In this way you can keep all
  historical data and still reuse a login name.
 
  Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
  2011)
 
  Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
  * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
  * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
 logs.
  Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
 
   This has bothered me for a while:  What do to if one is using AREA
   against a system that re-users usernames, and you want the Remedy
   username to match the external one, but then there is the potential
   for the problems mentioned below.
  
   There is a unique id for each account in the external system, of
   course - but not sure how I could leverage that.  Any bright ideas?
   I suppose I could store the unique id in Remedy and do an ARDBC
   lookup after every login (would maybe have to set up an init-form to
   trigger the workflow on
   login) to see if it matches.  If it doesn't match, create a new
   record  retire the old, and use this record to stamp this unique id on 
   any
   requests created by the user.   But then how to allow-disallow access to
   the records?   Not sure it's workable.  Does anyone have a good way to
   handle this?
  
   David Durling
   University of Georgia
  
  
   From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
   [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:17 PM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - Question about re-using Login Id's
  
   **
   It would not be a EULA violation - as long as its not 2 physical
   individuals using the same ID at the same time, they are not
   breaking any EULA...
  
   However for reasons mentioned in the original post itself, this is a
   bad idea. Yes you will see all records since a lot within the system
   is referenced by the Login ID. Remedy does not have any other unique
   identifier that is 

Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Arner, Todd
Howard,
I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a user 
that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user login on 
any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.

Hope that helps

Todd Arner
Great Lakes


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
7.6.4

**
Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
the incident search and new windows.

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave one 
the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident new or 
search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is ActiveLink: 
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
False actions: and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but if 
I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. Also I 
have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with no 
luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex planned 
for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen anything like 
this.

By the way the load window never times out.

Any ideas?

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

Howard

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Re: Paging and Notification Applications

2012-06-29 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

http://www.ppt.com/perl/itgui.pl?handler=products/etherpage

This was a very simple to use tool formally owned by EtherPage and then 
eventually changed a couple of hands.. I haven’t used it recently but used to 
use it years ago and it was way more simpler than TelAlert to setup and 
configure.. I did use TelAlert too..

Joe

From: Shellman, David 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 4:46 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Paging and Notification Applications

** 
We use TelAlert.

Dave

On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Barbour, Brandi D bdbar...@jcp.com wrote:


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  We are looking for a Automated Paging/Notification application.  Does anyone 
use anything other than xMatters Alarmpoint for this?  We love that product 
however have been asked to investigate what else is out there.  If there 
happens to be any freeware that could meet this need that would be even better. 
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  Thanks,

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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Howard Richter
Todd,

 

Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 

 

The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that
works and one that fails.

 

It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.

 

Howard

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Howard,

I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a
user that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user
login on any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.

 

Hope that helps

 

Todd Arner

Great Lakes

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM
7.6.4

 

** 

Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

 

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able
open the incident search and new windows. 

 

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave
one the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident
new or search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

 

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is ActiveLink:
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM

False actions: and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

 

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but
if I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs.
Also I have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

 

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with
no luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex
planned for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen
anything like this.

 

By the way the load window never times out.

 

Any ideas?

 

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

 

Howard

 

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Re: Paging and Notification Applications

2012-06-29 Thread Jason Miller
We use HipLink http://hiplink.com.  They have offering for
Remedy integrations.  Since we have traditionally be highly customized and
home grown built all of our paging workflow to work with their paging
product.  We have yet to integrate with our new ITSM 7.6.04 system but I am
hoping it will be pretty straight forward.

Jason

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.netwrote:

 **

 http://www.ppt.com/perl/itgui.pl?handler=products/etherpage

 This was a very simple to use tool formally owned by EtherPage and then
 eventually changed a couple of hands.. I haven’t used it recently but used
 to use it years ago and it was way more simpler than TelAlert to setup and
 configure.. I did use TelAlert too..

 Joe

  *From:* Shellman, David dave.shell...@te.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 28, 2012 4:46 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Paging and Notification Applications

 **
 We use TelAlert.

 Dave

 On Jun 28, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Barbour, Brandi D bdbar...@jcp.com wrote:

  **

 We are looking for a Automated Paging/Notification application.  Does
 anyone use anything other than xMatters Alarmpoint for this?  We love that
 product however have been asked to investigate what else is out there.  If
 there happens to be any freeware that could meet this need that would be
 even better.  J

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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread ravi rai

Remove Incident permission and reapply on impacted user account. this might help
 
Ravi 
 



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:39:01 -0400
From: hbr4...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 





Todd,
 
Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server 
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 
 
The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that works 
and one that fails.
 
It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.
 
Howard
 
 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4
 
** 
Howard,
I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a user 
that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user login on 
any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.
 
Hope that helps
 
Todd Arner
Great Lakes
 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
7.6.4
 
** 
Good morning, afternoon and evening all,
 
I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
the incident search and new windows. 
 
I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave one 
the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident new or 
search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.
 
Also in the logging the last Activelink action is “ActiveLink: 
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
False actions:” and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.
 
Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but if 
I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. Also I 
have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.
 
We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with no 
luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex planned 
for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen anything like 
this.
 
By the way the load window never times out.
 
Any ideas?
 
Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,
 
Howard
 

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6205 Peachtree Dunwoody Road, Atlanta, GA 30328-4524  
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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Matt Reinfeldt
Howard,

 

Have you compared their PPM:PeoplePermissionGroups records?  I've seen, in
the past, where records don't always get properly created in this form.

 

GL,

 

Matt

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Todd,

 

Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 

 

The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that
works and one that fails.

 

It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.

 

Howard

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Howard,

I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a
user that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user
login on any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.

 

Hope that helps

 

Todd Arner

Great Lakes

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM
7.6.4

 

** 

Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

 

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able
open the incident search and new windows. 

 

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave
one the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident
new or search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

 

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is ActiveLink:
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM

False actions: and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

 

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but
if I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs.
Also I have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

 

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with
no luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex
planned for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen
anything like this.

 

By the way the load window never times out.

 

Any ideas?

 

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

 

Howard

 

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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Matt Reinfeldt
Sry. meant CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups.. J

 

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Howard,

 

Have you compared their PPM:PeoplePermissionGroups records?  I've seen, in
the past, where records don't always get properly created in this form.

 

GL,

 

Matt

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Todd,

 

Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 

 

The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that
works and one that fails.

 

It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.

 

Howard

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Howard,

I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a
user that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user
login on any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.

 

Hope that helps

 

Todd Arner

Great Lakes

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM
7.6.4

 

** 

Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

 

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able
open the incident search and new windows. 

 

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave
one the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident
new or search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

 

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is ActiveLink:
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM

False actions: and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

 

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but
if I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs.
Also I have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

 

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with
no luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex
planned for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen
anything like this.

 

By the way the load window never times out.

 

Any ideas?

 

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

 

Howard

 

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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Ibbi
Did you have a look at the 'user' form and see of the permissions are the same 
for both users in there?

Can you please also try delete the user at preferences and see if that work? 

I had a very similar issue and web I checked my permissions with the other 
user, the permissions did not match user form from the people form permissions 
for the other users. And simply deleting the AR preference for the user did the 
job with flushing the cache. It took me forever. 

Do follow up.

My environment 7.4.04 sp2.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Todd,
  
 Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server 
 (i.e. box), all with no luck.
  
 The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that 
 works and one that fails.
  
 It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.
  
 Howard
  
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
 ITSM 7.6.4
  
 **
 Howard,
 I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a 
 user that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user 
 login on any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.
  
 Hope that helps
  
 Todd Arner
 Great Lakes
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
 7.6.4
  
 **
 Good morning, afternoon and evening all,
  
 I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
 the incident search and new windows.
  
 I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave 
 one the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident 
 new or search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.
  
 Also in the logging the last Activelink action is “ActiveLink: 
 SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
 False actions:” and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
 works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.
  
 Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but 
 if I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. 
 Also I have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.
  
 We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with 
 no luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex 
 planned for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen 
 anything like this.
  
 By the way the load window never times out.
  
 Any ideas?
  
 Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,
  
 Howard
  
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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Howard Richter
Thanks to all for the ideas, however, non-have helped.

 

From removing the incident permission’s and then re-adding them, flushing 
every cache in the mid-tier that BMC support can think of and even removing 
some cached files, looking at the CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups form,  to even 
removing the user preferences forms, and nothing has worked.

 

Its very strange, other apps (like problem and change) open up with no issues. 
However, incident search/new just hang. 

 

Well lets see what BMC does with fiddler, mid-tier and user login I just sent 
them.

 

If I hear anything I will post it.

 

As always thanks and remember to take care of your kidneys,

 

Howard

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ibbi
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Did you have a look at the 'user' form and see of the permissions are the same 
for both users in there?

 

Can you please also try delete the user at preferences and see if that work? 

 

I had a very similar issue and web I checked my permissions with the other 
user, the permissions did not match user form from the people form permissions 
for the other users. And simply deleting the AR preference for the user did the 
job with flushing the cache. It took me forever. 

 

Do follow up.

 

My environment 7.4.04 sp2.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

** 

Todd,

 

Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server 
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 

 

The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that works 
and one that fails.

 

It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.

 

Howard

 

 

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4

 

** 

Howard,

I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a user 
that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user login on 
any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.

 

Hope that helps

 

Todd Arner

Great Lakes

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
7.6.4

 

** 

Good morning, afternoon and evening all,

 

I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
the incident search and new windows. 

 

I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave one 
the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident new or 
search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.

 

Also in the logging the last Activelink action is “ActiveLink: 
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM

False actions:” and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.

 

Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but if 
I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. Also I 
have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.

 

We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with no 
luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex planned 
for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen anything like 
this.

 

By the way the load window never times out.

 

Any ideas?

 

Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,

 

Howard

 

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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread Ibbi
Howard,

Hopefully they can resolve it. Do let us know what the solution was and the 
steps they took.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Thanks to all for the ideas, however, non-have helped.
  
 From removing the incident permission’s and then re-adding them, flushing 
 every cache in the mid-tier that BMC support can think of and even removing 
 some cached files, looking at the CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups form,  to even 
 removing the user preferences forms, and nothing has worked.
  
 Its very strange, other apps (like problem and change) open up with no 
 issues. However, incident search/new just hang.
  
 Well lets see what BMC does with fiddler, mid-tier and user login I just sent 
 them.
  
 If I hear anything I will post it.
  
 As always thanks and remember to take care of your kidneys,
  
 Howard
  
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ibbi
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:03 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
 ITSM 7.6.4
  
 **
 Did you have a look at the 'user' form and see of the permissions are the 
 same for both users in there?
  
 Can you please also try delete the user at preferences and see if that work? 
  
 I had a very similar issue and web I checked my permissions with the other 
 user, the permissions did not match user form from the people form 
 permissions for the other users. And simply deleting the AR preference for 
 the user did the job with flushing the cache. It took me forever. 
  
 Do follow up.
  
 My environment 7.4.04 sp2.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 **
 Todd,
  
 Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server 
 (i.e. box), all with no luck.
  
 The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that 
 works and one that fails.
  
 It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.
  
 Howard
  
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
 ITSM 7.6.4
  
 **
 Howard,
 I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a 
 user that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user 
 login on any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.
  
 Hope that helps
  
 Todd Arner
 Great Lakes
  
  
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
 7.6.4
  
 **
 Good morning, afternoon and evening all,
  
 I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
 the incident search and new windows.
  
 I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave 
 one the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident 
 new or search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.
  
 Also in the logging the last Activelink action is “ActiveLink: 
 SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
 False actions:” and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
 works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.
  
 Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but 
 if I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. 
 Also I have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.
  
 We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with 
 no luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex 
 planned for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen 
 anything like this.
  
 By the way the load window never times out.
  
 Any ideas?
  
 Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,
  
 Howard
  
 image001.gif
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IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread patrick zandi
I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and
did all we can.. Error is the following::
She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham
blank screen..
here are the errors

Line 7
char 77
error object expected
code 0


-- Anyone ?

-- 
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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04

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 ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
 she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and 
 did all we can.. Error is the following::
 She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham blank 
 screen..
 here are the errors

 Line 7
 char 77
 error object expected
 code 0


 -- Anyone ?

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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
IE7 is supported according to the Compatibility matrix for 7.6.04

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:18 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
 she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and 
 did all we can.. Error is the following::
 She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham blank 
 screen..
 here are the errors

 Line 7
 char 77
 error object expected
 code 0


 -- Anyone ?

 --
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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread patrick zandi
Ill bet it is some javascript, lockdown on the desktop...
just cannot prove it.. but I believe it is the desktop.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Grooms, Frederick W 
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 IE7 is supported according to the Compatibility matrix for 7.6.04

 Fred

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

 I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
 think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:18 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

  ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
  she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache,
 and did all we can.. Error is the following::
  She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham
 blank screen..
  here are the errors
 
  Line 7
  char 77
  error object expected
  code 0
 
 
  -- Anyone ?
 
  --
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Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 7.6.4

2012-06-29 Thread ravi rai

Howard,
if you are on IE press F12 and under Cache select clear browser cache for this 
domain 
close all browser and try 
 
Ravi 
 



Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:55:36 -0400
From: hbr4...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

** 





Thanks to all for the ideas, however, non-have helped.
 
From removing the incident permission’s and then re-adding them, flushing 
every cache in the mid-tier that BMC support can think of and even removing 
some cached files, looking at the CTM:PeoplePermissionGroups form,  to even 
removing the user preferences forms, and nothing has worked.
 
Its very strange, other apps (like problem and change) open up with no issues. 
However, incident search/new just hang. 
 
Well lets see what BMC does with fiddler, mid-tier and user login I just sent 
them.
 
If I hear anything I will post it.
 
As always thanks and remember to take care of your kidneys,
 
Howard

 
 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ibbi
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4
 
** 
Did you have a look at the 'user' form and see of the permissions are the same 
for both users in there?

 

Can you please also try delete the user at preferences and see if that work? 

 

I had a very similar issue and web I checked my permissions with the other 
user, the permissions did not match user form from the people form permissions 
for the other users. And simply deleting the AR preference for the user did the 
job with flushing the cache. It took me forever. 

 

Do follow up.

 

My environment 7.4.04 sp2.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Howard Richter hbr4...@gmail.com wrote:


** 
Todd,
 
Thanks. I have tried even removing the cached files, restarting the server 
(i.e. box), all with no luck. 
 
The strange thing is the permission are the same for two users, one that works 
and one that fails.
 
It only happens in the incident search or new, all other forms work great.
 
Howard
 
 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Arner, Todd
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in 
ITSM 7.6.4
 
** 
Howard,
I have seen similar issues where portions of a form will not display for a user 
that have the correct permissions.  This issue also followed the user login on 
any PC.  I found flushing the mid-tier cache resolved our issue.
 
Hope that helps
 
Todd Arner
Great Lakes
 
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Richter, Howard (CEI - Atlanta)
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Incident new and search windows not opening for some users, in ITSM 
7.6.4
 
** 
Good morning, afternoon and evening all,
 
I have a strange issue (well most of mine are), with some users not able open 
the incident search and new windows. 
 
I have verified that the users have the correct permissions (in fact I gave one 
the same rights that I have) and yet some users when they go to incident new or 
search the windows loading window comes up and just hangs.
 
Also in the logging the last Activelink action is “ActiveLink: 
SHR:LHP:EventHandler_ReturnAnyOfTheseTerms - Fri Jun 29 2012 9:13:32 AM
False actions:” and it just hangs there. If I use my login (or another that 
works) runs this activelink and then goes to the next action.
 
Its not a pc issue, since I can use my login and everything works great, but if 
I use one of the users logins that have an issue the screen just hangs. Also I 
have tried this on a couple of other PCs with no luck.
 
We have applied the latest hot fix to the mid-tiers and restarted them, with no 
luck. BMC support has no idea what might be the issue as of now (webex planned 
for later today), but I just wanted to see if anyone had seen anything like 
this.
 
By the way the load window never times out.
 
Any ideas?
 
Happy Friday to all and take care of your kidneys,
 
Howard
 
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Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Mauricio M.
I guess the first approach and easiest way to proceed is to estimate a 3:1
ratio or 5:1 ratio according to the book, maybe applying some % up, and
providing with two or three scenarios. After that, more precise measurment
should be done, we need to measure the actual license usage over a period
of time, using any tool available in the market or custom method and adjust
the count, but in order to this to happen, the application should have been
previously approved and minimum licenses provisioned and management would
like to know how we are estimating the floating count, with a more solid
argument than the standard ratio recommended by the book, which is not
general law ...if I say 100 licenses, why 100? why 80? why not 70? - I
guess a raw formula could be used based on some criteria, again, it will
not be perfect but certainly more accurate

What do you think?

2012/6/29 Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se

 Hi,

 In that case they need to spend much more money, as they have to spend
 according to the budget instead of their actual need.

 I understand that you NEED a budget, but that does not mean that you have
 to SPEND the whole budget.

 And I also understand that sales reps might have a different idea on how
 to proceed, as this way of doing it invariably saves the customer money...

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se

  I think that the problem is that he can't buy extra licenses. I mean, He
  needs to provide a budget to assist the decision of buying Remedy. To buy
  a
  minimum number of licenses and then increase as needed, is to make the
  decision without known the final TCO.
 
 
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  que nos lo comunique por la misma vía, se abstenga de realizar copias del
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  On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I would divide it into two things. One is budget, and the other thing
  how
  you actually do when you buy your licenses.
 
  Budget:
  1. Look into the sky and figure out your concurrent user count
  2. Do a 1:1 ratio (50% fixed 50% floating) and use that as a basis for
  your budget
 
  Buying licenses:
  1. Buy a minimum number of licenses
  2. Buy RRR|License --- ADV
  3. Increase the license count on your server as dictated by RRR|License
  for a month or three
  4. Pay BMC for the number of extra licenses that you figured out that
  you
  REALLY need
 
  This goes for new ITSM systems or custom systems, or as in your case a
  new
  custom application that rides beside an existing system.
 
 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
 2011)
 
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  * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
  * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
  logs.
  Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
  http://rrr.se.
 
   Hi Misi,
   But in your experience how do you do when it is for budgeting
  purposes,
   these are custom applications that have not been used before and they
  need
   to provision the licenses needed for the future load ... you say the
  only
   way to have a number close to reality is based only in previous usage
   analysis?
   Regards,
   Mauricio
  
   2012/6/28 Misi Mladoniczky m...@rrr.se
  
   Hi,
  
   I would say that there is no rule of thumb.
  
   Even if you have historical data, you could come up with 5:1 or 1:5,
  all
   depending how your system is used.
  
   One days worth of data will give you some information, and one week
  will
   give you a very good estimate.
  
   You can even try the free version of RRR|License, and it will tell
  you
   the
   ratio that is optimum for you. You can even use the change planner in
   the
   test version, where you can put in a future number of expected users:
   http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrLicChangePlanner.html
  
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  2011)
  
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Securing SRM tickets (SR,WO, Task) for HR

2012-06-29 Thread Logan, Kelly
Happy Friday all,

I am setting up our HR department with SRM and we would like to have HR tickets 
segregated from the others

1.   Avoid advance interface forms, to allow for self-administration of SR 
Catalog, and keep any maintenance tasks to a minimum

2.   Non-HRIS personnel should not have access to HRIS Requests nor Work 
Order/Tasks

3.   All HRIS personnel should have access to Requests, WOs, Tasks, 
regardless of assignment

4.   Non-HRIS Requests, WOs, Tasks need to be available to the rest of the 
users

I am looking at setting up row level security for this, so if you have tried 
this I'd be very appreciative of your experience. Here's what I have been able 
to discern so far:

OOB SRM:Request's field 1, 'SysRequestID', has only the Assignee, Assignee 
Group, OBOAssignee, Submitter, Vendor Assignee Groups and 'Unrestricted Access' 
(role) that grant access to an entry.

Though 'Assignee Group' is set, no field 112 has been created. The 
'OBOAssignee' field is used, and workflow sets this to $USER$, $Requested By 
Login ID$, and $Requested For Login ID$. Similarly, the Vendor Assignee is set 
by workflow as well, if a vendor is assigned the request.

My working plan is to remove the 'Unrestricted Access' from field 1, use the 
assignee group in field 112 and a parent group in a dynamic group field as 
described in the FormApp guide to grant access to the assignee group and all 
HRIS groups. Filters will set field 112, the system will set the dynamic group 
and all HRIS groups should have access to the tickets when an HRIS group is 
assigned. If the Assignee is not in HRIS, a generic permissions group (General 
Access?) will be put into 112.

First, if anyone has a better idea on this, please let me know.

Otherwise, what I'm going to be looking at is whether or not I a filter can 
determine if an assignee group is in a parent group (so I don't have to update 
code when HR adds a new support group).

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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
That's weird. I remember talking to support where they suggested ie7
had weird UI issues that didn't present themselves in IE8 or FF

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Grooms, Frederick W
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 IE7 is supported according to the Compatibility matrix for 7.6.04

 Fred

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

 I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
 think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:18 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
 she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and 
 did all we can.. Error is the following::
 She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham blank 
 screen..
 here are the errors

 Line 7
 char 77
 error object expected
 code 0


 -- Anyone ?

 --
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Re: Data Management Client on Windows 7

2012-06-29 Thread Carl Wilson
Hi,
there is a couple of levels of security you have to modify in the later 
versions of Excel, such as Macro security (Excel Options  Macro Settings)and 
Trusted sites (Excel Options  Microsoft Office Excel Trust Center  Trust 
Center Settings ...) to get the conversions macros to run automatically.
2003 did not have the extra layer of security, thus why BMC recommend it.

Cheers
Carl 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jamie
Sent: 28 June 2012 18:04
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Data Management Client on Windows 7

Has anyone installe the Data Management Client on a Windows 7 workstation with 
excel 2010?  By default the application installed in the 32 bit Program Files 
(x86) folder, and even though when I'm trying to use the DMT tool for 
foundation upload and I select the correct path to for the DMT install, the 
worksheets are not opened and converted correctly.  For some reason the 
worksheet is opened with a hard value of the DMT install path of /Program 
Files/ instead of /Program Files (x86).

Has anyone had any luck getting the Data Management Client to work with Windows 
7?  I tried opening a ticket with BMC and after two weeks of going back and 
forth they said it was part of the design and excel that to be 2003.

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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread Easter, David
IE7 is supported by AR System 7.6.04 but not recommended.  We've tried to 
continue support for it as long as possible for those customers with custom 
(bespoke) applications that don't take advantage of the recent features found 
in 7.6.04.  But when utilizing complex and modern applications like the ITSM 
7.6.04 solution, I'd recommend going with IE9 or higher to get the best 
possible experience.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, AR System
BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
BMC Software, Inc.
 
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:04 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

That's weird. I remember talking to support where they suggested ie7
had weird UI issues that didn't present themselves in IE8 or FF

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Grooms, Frederick W
frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:

 IE7 is supported according to the Compatibility matrix for 7.6.04

 Fred

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

 I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
 think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:18 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
 she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and 
 did all we can.. Error is the following::
 She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham blank 
 screen..
 here are the errors

 Line 7
 char 77
 error object expected
 code 0


 -- Anyone ?

 --
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Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35

2012-06-29 Thread Pat Zandi
Thank you for clarification ! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2012, at 19:42, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com wrote:

 IE7 is supported by AR System 7.6.04 but not recommended.  We've tried to 
 continue support for it as long as possible for those customers with custom 
 (bespoke) applications that don't take advantage of the recent features found 
 in 7.6.04.  But when utilizing complex and modern applications like the ITSM 
 7.6.04 solution, I'd recommend going with IE9 or higher to get the best 
 possible experience.
 
 -David J. Easter
 Manager of Product Management, AR System
 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
 BMC Software, Inc.
  
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 Inc.
 
 
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 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:04 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35
 
 That's weird. I remember talking to support where they suggested ie7
 had weird UI issues that didn't present themselves in IE8 or FF
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Grooms, Frederick W
 frederick.w.gro...@xo.com wrote:
 
 IE7 is supported according to the Compatibility matrix for 7.6.04
 
 Fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:49 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: IE 7 - ARS 7.6.04 midtier / tomcat 6.0.20 and 6.0.35
 
 I guess the obvious is can you get the user on a newer browser? I
 think IE7 is technically no longer supported in 7.6.04
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:18 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ** I have a customer with an old IE 7.0.5730  --
 she gets an error, We have cleared the browser cache, the server cache, and 
 did all we can.. Error is the following::
 She gets the front screen, and then logs in, which works.. then.. Wham 
 blank screen..
 here are the errors
 
 Line 7
 char 77
 error object expected
 code 0
 
 
 -- Anyone ?
 
 --
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