Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Vikram
hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we need 
is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a pictorial way 
instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or I 
sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Vikram,
Is there a reason that you are looking for something that provides similar 
functionality to an existing tool, but not that tool?  Abydos was purchased by 
BMC and is included with ITSM 8 (If I understand the inclusion properly) and is 
called something along the lines of 'Visual Process Designer'.

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we need 
is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a pictorial way 
instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or I 
sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
LJ,
That was their Designer tool. He is talking about Analyser.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 Vikram,
 Is there a reason that you are looking for something that provides similar 
 functionality to an existing tool, but not that tool?  Abydos was purchased 
 by BMC and is included with ITSM 8 (If I understand the inclusion properly) 
 and is called something along the lines of 'Visual Process Designer'.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:21 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we 
 need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a 
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show 
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
 application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or 
 I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
My bad :)did BMC not buy the entire company?  Is BMC not offering up the 
entire 'suite' of tools that Abydos offered?

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

LJ,
That was their Designer tool. He is talking about Analyser.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 Vikram,
 Is there a reason that you are looking for something that provides similar 
 functionality to an existing tool, but not that tool?  Abydos was purchased 
 by BMC and is included with ITSM 8 (If I understand the inclusion properly) 
 and is called something along the lines of 'Visual Process Designer'.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:21 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we 
 need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a 
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show 
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
 application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or 
 I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
No I'm pretty sure Analyser got digested. I'll let the ex Abydos
people expand on that if they wish but that is my understanding. It
was a great tool though.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 My bad :)did BMC not buy the entire company?  Is BMC not offering up the 
 entire 'suite' of tools that Abydos offered?

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:44 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 LJ,
 That was their Designer tool. He is talking about Analyser.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
 lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 Vikram,
 Is there a reason that you are looking for something that provides similar 
 functionality to an existing tool, but not that tool?  Abydos was purchased 
 by BMC and is included with ITSM 8 (If I understand the inclusion properly) 
 and is called something along the lines of 'Visual Process Designer'.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:21 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we 
 need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a 
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show 
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
 application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or 
 I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Garrison, Sean (Norcross)
IT Prophets has a neat tool called Remtools that may be worth looking at.  
http://www.itprophets.com/Docs/RemTools%202010.pdf


Ar Smarts also provides similar functionality.  http://www.arsmarts.com/  Which 
looks very similar to the old IT Masters ARSuite application.  

Sean




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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we need 
is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a pictorial way 
instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or I 
sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread MCCAVITT Nyall
Hi,

I would like to know the answer for Abydos Analyser as well as it would appear 
that only Abydos Designer has been taken on board and promoted by BMC.

As for a similar tool, you could look at:

http://www.arsmarts.com/


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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

My bad :)did BMC not buy the entire company?  Is BMC not offering up the 
entire 'suite' of tools that Abydos offered?

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

LJ,
That was their Designer tool. He is talking about Analyser.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 Vikram,
 Is there a reason that you are looking for something that provides similar 
 functionality to an existing tool, but not that tool?  Abydos was purchased 
 by BMC and is included with ITSM 8 (If I understand the inclusion properly) 
 and is called something along the lines of 'Visual Process Designer'.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Vikram
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:21 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we 
 need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a 
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show 
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
 application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or 
 I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram

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Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
All,
Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel the
qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of
the submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine.
However, when I add the following to the qualification:

AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$
my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see their
name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a $NULL$
value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it that
the above string also includes null values?

This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Vikram
Yep, I kinda miss Abydos analyser. 

I will take a look at all the tools mentioned in the mail chain one by one I am 
using ARInside as of now to get the documentation straight for the environment.

Thanks guys,
Vikram

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Vikram
Sad indeed...

Hope BMC has a plan to give the same amount and kind of functionality as Abydos 
analyser in coming relases of dev studio or atleast alow us to download the 
last version of the analyser tool. May they wont support it but cant understand 
the plan to not let it out to the remedy users at all. 

Regards,
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lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread Remedy Maniac

hi list,

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier 
for a ARS 6.0.3

Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover please?
Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

rm

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Cecil, Ken
The source code file on that ftp site seems to be a zip file but is corrupt 
when I try to open it. Anybody else have success with the source?


Ken.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:13 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

**
I own Abydos Analyser and the notice from BMC I received is below.  I'm hoping 
the product keeps working since it has an 'unlimited' license term but  one can 
never will tell for sure.  I would miss this capability to show the visual 
diagram of system components/relationships.  I must have missed those 
capabilities in Dev Studio or Migrator, which would not be surprising, so if 
someone knows where that is I'd appreciate the info!


Dear Valued Customer,

As previously communicated to you in a letter dated April 19, 2012, we are very 
happy to have successfully completed the acquisition of Abydos, the 
market-leading provider of process-modeling software for the BMC Remedy IT 
Service Management applications. This letter provides important details for you 
about the Abydos technologies you previously licensed.

We want to let you know of the general availability of the BMC Remedy IT 
Service Management Process Designer v 8.3.2 (formerly known as Abydos Designer) 
product.

This latest release of BMC Remedy IT Service Management Process Designer 
contains important new functionality, bug fixes, as well as upgrades to 
technology components.

New  Improved Functionality with Process Designer version 8.3.2:

  *   Multi-tenancy: All processes are now attached to an ITSM company so users 
can only see processes in the client that belong to their own company;
  *   Localization: The process task names, descriptions and field names are 
all now localizable through the Process Designer Client;
  *   Performance/Scalability: All previous server components consisting of 
binaries and C-API based plug-ins have been replaced with a single 
multi-threaded Java plug-in providing improved performance and scalability for 
enterprise solutions;
  *   Pre-Defined Queries have been added to the Set Fields action to enable 
process designers to count records in ITSM forms without needing SQL knowledge;
  *   Create New Request action enhanced to provide wizard-based guide for 
creation of ITSM Purchase Requests and corresponding line items;
  *   Enhanced Logging: Multiple levels of logging now available with output 
written to a Remedy form for easy access;
  *   Update Request Action now enhanced to allow updates to any Remedy form 
with a qualification;
  *   Process Tracker (previously Request Tracker) now runs as a servlet which 
allows it to run from any combination of servers including server groups and 
mixed-platform environments;

You can get the latest release of this technology from the Product Downloads 
(EPD) page here: http://www.bmc.com/support/downloads-patches.

BMC Software is also announcing the end of life of the Abydos Analyser product. 
Effective April 18, 2012, BMC Software will no longer market Abydos Analyser 
and will no longer be licensed in any of the markets we serve. We will continue 
to support the product up until April 18, 2013 on which date BMC Software will 
discontinue all support for the Abydos Analyser software.

BMC Software does not have any migration plans for Abydos Analyser, however, we 
are making its source code available to existing licensees under the terms and 
conditions of the Gnu General Public License v2.0. Further, you will find 
capabilities similar to those provided by Abydos Analyser in the BMC Remedy 
Developer Studio and Migrator software for which you are currently licensed as 
a BMC Remedy Action Request System customer.

You can get the source code release of this technology here:

ftp://filedownload.bmc.com/

Username: abydos

Password: an8ly2er

We would also like to take this opportunity to share with you the details on 
how to obtain assistance from our BMC Customer Support team**. You can now 
contact BMC Customer Support to assist with any questions or help needed with 
the BMC Remedy IT Service Management Process Designer product. You can also 
contact BMC Customer Support to assist with any questions or help needed with 
your current license of Abydos Analyser until the expiration of your support 
contract or the end-of-support date listed above (whichever is sooner).

You can log a ticket with BMC Customer Support on the web at: 
http://www.bmc.com/support or by email at 
customer_supp...@bmc.commailto:customer_supp...@bmc.com. You can also access 
BMC Customer Support by telephone using one of our local or free phone numbers 
in your country. There is a full list of BMC Customer Support local and free 
phone telephone numbers here: http://www.bmc.com/support/support-contacts.

When logging a ticket via web, email or telephone, please remember to quote 
your BMC Support 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Susan Palmer
Thank god it's corrupt ... I've just been informed I commited a crime by
publishing that info.  Claiming ignorance that I was supposed to read the
WHOLE notice !


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Cecil, Ken kce...@hubbell.com wrote:

 **

 The source code file on that ftp site seems to be a zip file but is
 corrupt when I try to open it. Anybody else have success with the source?*
 ***

 ** **

 ** **

 Ken.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:13 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 ** **

 ** 

 I own Abydos Analyser and the notice from BMC I received is below.  I'm
 hoping the product keeps working since it has an 'unlimited' license term
 but  one can never will tell for sure.  I would miss this capability to
 show the visual diagram of system components/relationships.  I must have
 missed those capabilities in Dev Studio or Migrator, which would not be
 surprising, so if someone knows where that is I'd appreciate the info!

  

 Dear Valued Customer,

 As previously communicated to you in a letter dated April 19, 2012, we are
 very happy to have successfully completed the acquisition of Abydos, the
 market-leading provider of process-modeling software for the BMC Remedy IT
 Service Management applications. This letter provides important details for
 you about the Abydos technologies you previously licensed.

 We want to let you know of the general availability of the BMC Remedy IT
 Service Management Process Designer v 8.3.2 (formerly known as Abydos
 Designer) product.

 This latest release of BMC Remedy IT Service Management Process Designer
 contains important new functionality, bug fixes, as well as upgrades to
 technology components.

 New  Improved Functionality with Process Designer version 8.3.2:

- Multi-tenancy: All processes are now attached to an ITSM company so
users can only see processes in the client that belong to their own 
 company;

- Localization: The process task names, descriptions and field names
are all now localizable through the Process Designer Client;
- Performance/Scalability: All previous server components consisting
of binaries and C-API based plug-ins have been replaced with a single
multi-threaded Java plug-in providing improved performance and scalability
for enterprise solutions;
- Pre-Defined Queries have been added to the Set Fields action to
enable process designers to count records in ITSM forms without needing SQL
knowledge;
- Create New Request action enhanced to provide wizard-based guide for
creation of ITSM Purchase Requests and corresponding line items;
- Enhanced Logging: Multiple levels of logging now available with
output written to a Remedy form for easy access;
- Update Request Action now enhanced to allow updates to any Remedy
form with a qualification;
- Process Tracker (previously Request Tracker) now runs as a servlet
which allows it to run from any combination of servers including server
groups and mixed-platform environments; 

 You can get the latest release of this technology from the Product
 Downloads (EPD) page here: http://www.bmc.com/support/downloads-patches.**
 **

 BMC Software is also announcing the end of life of the Abydos Analyser
 product. Effective April 18, 2012, BMC Software will no longer market
 Abydos Analyser and will no longer be licensed in any of the markets we
 serve. We will continue to support the product up until April 18, 2013 on
 which date BMC Software will discontinue all support for the Abydos
 Analyser software.

 BMC Software does not have any migration plans for Abydos Analyser,
 however, we are making its source code available to existing licensees
 under the terms and conditions of the Gnu General Public License v2.0.
 Further, you will find capabilities similar to those provided by Abydos
 Analyser in the BMC Remedy Developer Studio and Migrator software for which
 you are currently licensed as a BMC Remedy Action Request System customer.
 

 You can get the source code release of this technology here:

 ftp://filedownload.bmc.com/

 Username: abydos

 Password: an8ly2er

 We would also like to take this opportunity to share with you the details
 on how to obtain assistance from our BMC Customer Support team**. You can
 now contact BMC Customer Support to assist with any questions or help
 needed with the BMC Remedy IT Service Management Process Designer product.
 You can also contact BMC Customer Support to assist with any questions or
 help needed with your current license of Abydos Analyser until the
 expiration of your support contract or the end-of-support date listed above
 (whichever is sooner).

 You can log a ticket with BMC Customer Support on the web 

Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Jason Miller
You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are
excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include
$NULL$ in the query.

Something like:
AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

Jason
** All,
Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel the
qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of
the submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine.
However, when I add the following to the qualification:

AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$
my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see their
name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a $NULL$
value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it that
the above string also includes null values?

This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

-- 
*Tauf Chowdhury

*
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Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread Matt Reinfeldt
There is a KB on BMC's site that includes the OOB password line to put back
into your config.properties file, which will reset the password back to
default.

I am not going to post here, due to security concerns... ;-)

Enjoy,

Matt R.

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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

hi list,

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier for a
ARS 6.0.3 Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover please?
Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

rm


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Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread Matt Reinfeldt
To make it easier for those w/ Support access:
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=content
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=contentid=KA334281actp=searchvi
ewlocale=en_USsearchid=1355413301788
id=KA334281actp=searchviewlocale=en_USsearchid=1355413301788 

 

Matt

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:41 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

 

There is a KB on BMC's site that includes the OOB password line to put back
into your config.properties file, which will reset the password back to
default.

 

I am not going to post here, due to security concerns... ;-)

 

Enjoy,

 

Matt R.

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM

To:  mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

 

hi list,

 

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier for a
ARS 6.0.3 Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover please?

Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

 

rm

 



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Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread Remedy Maniac

worked perfectly !
thanks !
rm



On 12/13/2012 4:43 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:

**

To make it easier for those w/ Support access: 
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=contentid=KA334281actp=searchviewlocale=en_USsearchid=1355413301788 



Matt

-Original Message-
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:41 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

There is a KB on BMC's site that includes the OOB password line to put 
back into your config.properties file, which will reset the password 
back to default.


I am not going to post here, due to security concerns... ;-)

Enjoy,

Matt R.

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Subject: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

hi list,

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier 
for a ARS 6.0.3 Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover 
please?


Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

rm



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Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
Tauf this is normal behavior from AR. Now that you are explicitly
excluding 'Remedy Login ID' the system ONLY looks for where this value
is not equal to $NULL$ so you will need to change the qualification
to:

AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

HTH,

Rafael

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:
 ** All,
 Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel the
 qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
 I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
 that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
 needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
 narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
 Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of the
 submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine. However,
 when I add the following to the qualification:

 AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$

 my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see their
 name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a $NULL$
 value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it that
 the above string also includes null values?

 This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

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Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Sweet! Will try it out. Thanks


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jason Miller jason.mil...@gmail.comwrote:

 **

 You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are
 excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include
 $NULL$ in the query.

 Something like:
 AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

 Jason
 ** All,

 Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel
 the qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
 I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
 that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
 needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
 narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
 Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of
 the submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine.
 However, when I add the following to the qualification:

 AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$
 my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see
 their name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a
 $NULL$ value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it
 that the above string also includes null values?

 This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

 --
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Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread Matt Reinfeldt
Glad to hear it!

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Remedy Maniac
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:51 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

 

** 

worked perfectly !
thanks !
rm



On 12/13/2012 4:43 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:

** 

To make it easier for those w/ Support access:
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=content
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=contentid=KA334281actp=searchvi
ewlocale=en_USsearchid=1355413301788
id=KA334281actp=searchviewlocale=en_USsearchid=1355413301788 

 

Matt

 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Matt Reinfeldt
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:41 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

 

There is a KB on BMC's site that includes the OOB password line to put back
into your config.properties file, which will reset the password back to
default.

 

I am not going to post here, due to security concerns... ;-)

 

Enjoy,

 

Matt R.

 

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mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Remedy
Maniac

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM

To:  mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

Subject: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

 

hi list,

 

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier for a
ARS 6.0.3 Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover please?

Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

 

rm

 



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Re: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

2012-12-13 Thread J Ahmed
The password is encryped in the config.properties (under \WEB-INF\classes) file 
and is called: arsystem.password

You can put a plain text password, login to config.jsp using this new password, 
and put in a new password from the config.jsp that will encrypt this back again.

There is the Remedy AR server password in the config.properties as well - so 
please make sure you update the correct one.

Hope this helps.

J

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: lost midtier admin password on ARS 6.03

hi list,

we have lost the admin password on the config.jsp page of the midtier 
for a ARS 6.0.3
Is there anybody out there who knows how to recover please?
Wasn't it in a config file soemwhere ? ... hmmm

rm

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Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Mueller, Doug
Folks,

Just to be clear

This is not an AR or SRM topic.   It is a Relational Database query topic.

NULL is a value.  It means that there is no value.

So, if you search for something in ANY relational database and specify a 
criteria, unless you explicitly test for
NULL values, NULL values will not match.

Yes, this seems weird that NULL will not match when you say does not equal a 
specific value.  But, that is
the nature of relational queries.

no value does not match and does not NOT match ANYTHING.  It can only be 
tested for NULL.

ANY qualification where the value in the DB is NULL will return a FALSE for 
that portion of the qualification
unless the qualification is specifically to test for NULL.

Just something to keep in mind whenever you are querying a database.

Doug Mueller

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Qualification syntax question

**

You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are 
excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include $NULL$ 
in the query.

Something like:
AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

Jason
** All,
Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel the 
qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is that 
the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who needs to get 
access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to narrow down to the 
person who needs access. The last menu is called Full Name and it does a lookup 
on the People form. Without the requirement of the submitter being unable to 
pick themselves, the menu works fine. However, when I add the following to the 
qualification:

AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$
my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see their 
name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a $NULL$ 
value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it that the 
above string also includes null values?

This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

--
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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread vaibhav wadekar
Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the
need to develop new applications or customise existing applications or
templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that
require multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of
request such as Change Management, Service Request Management and
Incident/Problem Management.
*The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
form exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple graphical
interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved
in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only is
the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
process.

7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees to
be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required
to support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
data.

8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
workflow development.

Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface that
allows process designers to build processes that can be executed within
Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
emails).

You can get more info from below link

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

Hope this helps.

Regards/Vaibhav





On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we
 need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is
 my application structure and this is how the forms are related to each
 other or I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram


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Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
As always, thanks Doug for the explanation

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote:
 **

 Folks,



 Just to be clear….



 This is not an AR or SRM topic.   It is a Relational Database query topic.



 NULL is a value.  It means that there is no value.



 So, if you search for something in ANY relational database and specify a
 criteria, unless you explicitly test for

 NULL values, NULL values will not match.



 Yes, this seems weird that NULL will not match when you say does not
 equal a specific value.  But, that is

 the nature of relational queries.



 no value does not match and does not NOT match ANYTHING.  It can only be
 tested for NULL.



 ANY qualification where the value in the DB is NULL will return a FALSE for
 that portion of the qualification

 unless the qualification is specifically to test for NULL.


 Just something to keep in mind whenever you are querying a database.



 Doug Mueller



 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:39 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Qualification syntax question



 **

 You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are
 excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include
 $NULL$ in the query.

 Something like:
 AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

 Jason

 ** All,
 Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel the
 qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
 I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
 that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
 needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
 narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
 Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of the
 submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine. However,
 when I add the following to the qualification:

 AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$

 my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see their
 name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a $NULL$
 value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it that
 the above string also includes null values?

 This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

 --
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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Vaibhav,
I agree with everything you said except the 1st line: Abydos analyser is
now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with ITSM 7.6.04 and
later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM Suite area.

Abydos DESIGNER is now Process Designer. Analyser was a different product
as discussed in previous posts.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
 ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
 Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
 interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the
 need to develop new applications or customise existing applications or
 templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that
 require multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of
 request such as Change Management, Service Request Management and
 Incident/Problem Management.
 *The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
 implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
 getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
 form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
 time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
 additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved
 in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
 processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only
 is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
 implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
 the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
 process.

 7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees to
 be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required
 to support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
 data.

 8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface
 that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed
 within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
 Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
 emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What
 we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is
 my application structure and this is how the forms are related to each
 other or I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram


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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Stanley Feinstein
Hi Vaibhav,

 

Does it make coffee too?  What doesn't it do?  

 

Specifically, can processes be parent /child / grandchild, as many levels as
you want?  Can it be and is it typically used by process owners, i.e. users,
rather than the Remedy team?  Can users add ad hoc tasks?

 

Thanks.

 

Stan Feinstein

w. 310-230-1722.

c. 310-428-5748.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of vaibhav wadekar
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 

** Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of implementing
new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy customers can
quickly and easily implement processes graphically using Process Designer
without resorting to customisation or having to update multiple complex
templates. This means implementing processes takes a fraction of the time it
would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the need
to develop new applications or customise existing applications or templates.
Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that require
multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of request such
as Change Management, Service Request Management and Incident/Problem
Management.
The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
form exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple graphical
interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved in
upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes - Process Designer allows the automation of
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements - Not only is
the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of the
current status and historical flow of every transaction through the process.

7. Simplified User Interface - Process Designer enables decision trees to be
built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required to
support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
data.

8. Automated Version Control - Process Designer includes automated
generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
workflow development.

Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface that
allows process designers to build processes that can be executed within
Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
emails).

You can get more info from below link

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

Hope this helps.

Regards




 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we
need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show
relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my
application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or
I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram


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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Susan Palmer
And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
 ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
 Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
 interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the
 need to develop new applications or customise existing applications or
 templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that
 require multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of
 request such as Change Management, Service Request Management and
 Incident/Problem Management.
 *The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
 implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
 getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
 form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
 time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
 additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved
 in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
 processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only
 is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
 implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
 the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
 process.

 7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees to
 be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required
 to support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
 data.

 8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface
 that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed
 within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
 Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
 emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What
 we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is
 my application structure and this is how the forms are related to each
 other or I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram


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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Susan/Stan,
As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get
your processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage
Task Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS.
Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to
enforce a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.comwrote:

 ** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
 doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar 
 wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes
 with ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within
 ITSM Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a
 graphical interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy
 without the need to develop new applications or customise existing
 applications or templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for
 systems that require multiple different processes and tasks depending on
 the type of request such as Change Management, Service Request Management
 and Incident/Problem Management.
 *The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
 implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
 getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
 form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
 time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
 additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved
 in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
 processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only
 is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
 implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
 the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
 process.

 7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees to
 be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required
 to support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
 data.

 8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface
 that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed
 within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
 Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
 emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What
 we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show
 relationship feature.

 Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is
 my application structure and this is how the forms are related to each
 other or I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

 Thanks,
 Vikram


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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
I bet you could still purchase it as a standalone component.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:18 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why 
doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com 
wrote:


** Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes 
with ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM 
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of 
implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy 
customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using Process 
Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update multiple 
complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a fraction of the 
time it would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a 
graphical interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without 
the need to develop new applications or customise existing applications or 
templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that require 
multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of request such as 
Change Management, Service Request Management and Incident/Problem Management.
The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to 
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to customise 
existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are 
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical form 
exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple 
graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have 
reduced time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no 
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved in 
upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes - Process Designer allows the automation of 
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the 
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements - Not 
only is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as 
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of the 
current status and historical flow of every transaction through the process.

7. Simplified User Interface - Process Designer enables decision trees 
to be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required to 
support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality data.

8. Automated Version Control - Process Designer includes automated 
generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to or 
report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any workflow 
development.

Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface 
that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed within 
Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task Assignment 
and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send emails).

You can get more info from below link

https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

Hope this helps.

Regards/Vaibhav 






On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:


hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos 
analyser. What we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms 
relationship in a pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio 
and show relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me 
that this is my application structure and this is how the forms are related to 
each other or I sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram



Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
1 more thing for Stan. Don't think of it as a hierarchy where you have
parent/child/grandchild etc... Visually within Task Management, it will
look like a bunch of Sequence 1 tasks listed in the Tasks table of an
Inc/Chg/Pbm. The flow is controlled via the process you build within the
GUI tool of Designer. Think of a vizio workflow being built and then the
flow being enforced by workflow within Remedy. However to the end user,
they just see a list of tasks.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Susan/Stan,
 As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
 The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get
 your processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage
 Task Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
 actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS.
 Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
 break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to
 enforce a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases.


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.comwrote:

 ** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
 doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar 
 wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes
 with ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within
 ITSM Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a
 graphical interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy
 without the need to develop new applications or customise existing
 applications or templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for
 systems that require multiple different processes and tasks depending on
 the type of request such as Change Management, Service Request Management
 and Incident/Problem Management.
 *The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
 implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
 getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
 form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have
 reduced time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is
 no additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also
 saved in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
 processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only
 is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
 implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
 the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
 process.

 7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees
 to be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data
 required to support processes. This ensures user productivity and
 consistent quality data.

 8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface
 that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed
 within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
 Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
 emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What
 we need is be able to see the system workflow 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Well, when it was still Abydos and not BMC, you could download the
standalone version of Designer. The idea was to be able to distribute it to
Business Analysts to have them build out the business process and then hand
it off to the Remedy dev to tie it all together into Remedy (assigning
support groups and custom fields and such). However, I think now, you have
to always log in to an AR system in order to access the GUI functionality
to build the flows.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC 
lj.longwing@mda.mil wrote:

 I bet you could still purchase it as a standalone component.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Susan Palmer
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:18 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 ** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
 doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar 
 wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:


 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and
 comes with ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD
 within ITSM Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a
 graphical interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy
 without the need to develop new applications or customise existing
 applications or templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for
 systems that require multiple different processes and tasks depending on
 the type of request such as Change Management, Service Request Management
 and Incident/Problem Management.
 The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you
 to implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what
 they are getting as they are able to understand and review the process in
 graphical form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have
 reduced time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is
 no additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also
 saved in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes - Process Designer allows the automation
 of processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements -
 Not only is the process diagram a self documenting description of the
 process as implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic
 view of the current status and historical flow of every transaction through
 the process.

 7. Simplified User Interface - Process Designer enables decision
 trees to be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data
 required to support processes. This ensures user productivity and
 consistent quality data.

 8. Automated Version Control - Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical
 interface that allows process designers to build processes that can be
 executed within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such
 as Task Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields
 and send emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com
 wrote:


 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos
 analyser. What we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms
 relationship in a pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev
 studio and show relationship 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Susan Palmer
I'm talking about Analyser, not Designer.

Since I've owned Designer for many years I kind of resent having to
purchase it again.  I'd agree with paying similar yearly support as I do
now.

Tauf, don't ever think you can't do something in 'custom' that you do in
ITSM if you choose too.  In custom, you just simply get 'what you need' not
what the world thinks you need!

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Susan/Stan,
 As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
 The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get
 your processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage
 Task Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
 actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS.
 Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
 break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to
 enforce a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases.


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.comwrote:

 ** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
 doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar 
 wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Hello Vikram,

 Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes
 with ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within
 ITSM Suite area.

 These are the benefits of process designer

 Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
 implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
 customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
 Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
 multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
 fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

 Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a
 graphical interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy
 without the need to develop new applications or customise existing
 applications or templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for
 systems that require multiple different processes and tasks depending on
 the type of request such as Change Management, Service Request Management
 and Incident/Problem Management.
 *The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

 1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
 implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
 customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

 2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
 getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
 form exactly as it is implemented.

 3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple
 graphical interface to implement processes without needing to customise
 Remedy.

 4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have
 reduced time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is
 no additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also
 saved in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

 5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
 processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
 necessity of manual intervention where possible.

 6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only
 is the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
 implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
 the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
 process.

 7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees
 to be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data
 required to support processes. This ensures user productivity and
 consistent quality data.

 8. Automated Version Control – Process Designer includes automated
 generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
 or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
 workflow development.

 Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface
 that allows process designers to build processes that can be executed
 within Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
 Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and send
 emails).

 You can get more info from below link

 https://docs.bmc.com/docs/display/public/itsm80/PDFs

 Hope this helps.

 Regards/Vaibhav






 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Vikram vkulka...@columnit.com wrote:

 hi List,

 Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What
 we need is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a
 pictorial way instead of doing it ourself via the dev 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Thad Esser
At WWRUG, I asked someone from BMC about this, and they said it was being
discussed.  Just to help them along in their discussions, I created an Idea
in BMC Communities for us to vote on:

https://communities.bmc.com/communities/ideas/1572

Seems like there is enough demand for that.

Thad

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Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Thad Esser
Its always funny how nothing can be so confusing.  No wonder the Romans
didn't have a zero.  :-)

Thad

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote:

 **

 Folks,

 ** **

 Just to be clear….

 ** **

 This is not an AR or SRM topic.   It is a Relational Database query topic.
 

 ** **

 NULL is a value.  It means that there is no value.

 ** **

 So, if you search for something in ANY relational database and specify a
 criteria, unless you explicitly test for

 NULL values, NULL values will not match.

 ** **

 Yes, this seems weird that NULL will not match when you say does not
 equal a specific value.  But, that is

 the nature of relational queries.

 ** **

 no value does not match and does not NOT match ANYTHING.  It can only be
 tested for NULL.

 ** **

 ANY qualification where the value in the DB is NULL will return a FALSE
 for that portion of the qualification

 unless the qualification is specifically to test for NULL.


 Just something to keep in mind whenever you are querying a database.

 ** **

 Doug Mueller

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:39 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Qualification syntax question

 ** **

 ** 

 You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are
 excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include
 $NULL$ in the query.

 Something like:
 AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

 Jason

 ** All,
 Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel
 the qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
 I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
 that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
 needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
 narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
 Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of
 the submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine.
 However, when I add the following to the qualification:

 AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$

 my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see
 their name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a
 $NULL$ value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it
 that the above string also includes null values?

 This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

 --
 *Tauf Chowdhury

 *
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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Stanley Feinstein
Hi Tauf.

 

Thanks for your feedback.  The reason you want to have ad hoc tasks is the
always prevalent reality: the 80/20 rule.  80% of the time, the tasks in the
pre-defined process fit the request, but 20% of the time it doesn't.  

 

The other purpose is for new processes and enabling your help desk people
to, when they see the need for a new process, use an ad hoc task capability
to create new processes on the fly.  The ad hoc task capability should
change any Remedy ticket into a multi-task process on the fly.

 

You didn't answer my question: can the process be more than one level deep.
Can it be parent / child / grandchild or more?

 

Thanks.

 

Stan Feinstein

w. 310-230-1722.

c. 310-428-5748.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 

** Susan/Stan,
As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability. 
The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get your
processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage Task
Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS. 
Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to enforce
a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases. 

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com
wrote:

** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar
wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:

** Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of implementing
new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy customers can
quickly and easily implement processes graphically using Process Designer
without resorting to customisation or having to update multiple complex
templates. This means implementing processes takes a fraction of the time it
would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the need
to develop new applications or customise existing applications or templates.
Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that require
multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of request such
as Change Management, Service Request Management and Incident/Problem
Management.
The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
form exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple graphical
interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved in
upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes - Process Designer allows the automation of
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements - Not only is
the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of the
current status and historical flow of every transaction through the process.

7. Simplified User Interface - Process Designer enables decision trees to be
built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required to
support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
data.

8. Automated Version Control - Process Designer includes automated
generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
workflow development.

Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface that
allows process designers to build processes that can be executed within
Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as Task
Assignment and SLAs ,actions such as get user data, updates fields and 

Re: Qualification syntax question

2012-12-13 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
LOL! :)

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Thad Esser thad.es...@gmail.com wrote:
 ** Its always funny how nothing can be so confusing.  No wonder the Romans
 didn't have a zero.  :-)

 Thad


 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote:

 **

 Folks,



 Just to be clear….



 This is not an AR or SRM topic.   It is a Relational Database query topic.



 NULL is a value.  It means that there is no value.



 So, if you search for something in ANY relational database and specify a
 criteria, unless you explicitly test for

 NULL values, NULL values will not match.



 Yes, this seems weird that NULL will not match when you say does not
 equal a specific value.  But, that is

 the nature of relational queries.



 no value does not match and does not NOT match ANYTHING.  It can only be
 tested for NULL.



 ANY qualification where the value in the DB is NULL will return a FALSE
 for that portion of the qualification

 unless the qualification is specifically to test for NULL.


 Just something to keep in mind whenever you are querying a database.



 Doug Mueller



 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:39 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Qualification syntax question



 **

 You are correct, this happens throughout AR not just SRM. Now that you are
 excluding based on 'Remedy Login ID' you will have to explicitly include
 $NULL$ in the query.

 Something like:
 AND ('Remedy Login ID' != $\USER$ OR 'Remedy Login ID' = $\NULL$)

 Jason

 ** All,
 Need to understand the behavior behind this. It's within SRM but I feel
 the qualification is AR related so any help would be appreciated.
 I have a service that has to do with access. Of course, the requirement is
 that the submitter should not be able to pick themselves as someone who
 needs to get access. There are search menus that allow the submitter to
 narrow down to the person who needs access. The last menu is called Full
 Name and it does a lookup on the People form. Without the requirement of the
 submitter being unable to pick themselves, the menu works fine. However,
 when I add the following to the qualification:

 AND  'Remedy Login ID' !=  $\USER$

 my requirement is met but with side effects. The submitter cannot see
 their name in the drop down but the side effect is that any user who has a
 $NULL$ value in the Remedy Login ID field doesn't show up either. How is it
 that the above string also includes null values?

 This is SRM/ITSM/ARS 7.6.04 p1

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Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Stanley Feinstein
Tauf,

 

Sorry, I was away from my desk for a few minutes and didn't see your answer
to the question about whether a process could be more than one level deep.
I see that your answer was No.

 

Thanks.

 

Stan

w. 310-230-1722.

c. 310-428-5748.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:26 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

 

** 1 more thing for Stan. Don't think of it as a hierarchy where you have
parent/child/grandchild etc... Visually within Task Management, it will look
like a bunch of Sequence 1 tasks listed in the Tasks table of an
Inc/Chg/Pbm. The flow is controlled via the process you build within the GUI
tool of Designer. Think of a vizio workflow being built and then the flow
being enforced by workflow within Remedy. However to the end user, they just
see a list of tasks. 

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

Susan/Stan,
As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability. 
The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get your
processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage Task
Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS. 
Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to enforce
a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases. 

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com
wrote:

** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar
wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com wrote:

** Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of implementing
new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy customers can
quickly and easily implement processes graphically using Process Designer
without resorting to customisation or having to update multiple complex
templates. This means implementing processes takes a fraction of the time it
would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the need
to develop new applications or customise existing applications or templates.
Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that require
multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of request such
as Change Management, Service Request Management and Incident/Problem
Management.
The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
form exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple graphical
interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved in
upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes - Process Designer allows the automation of
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements - Not only is
the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of the
current status and historical flow of every transaction through the process.

7. Simplified User Interface - Process Designer enables decision trees to be
built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required to
support processes. This ensures user productivity and consistent quality
data.

8. Automated Version Control - Process Designer includes automated
generation of version-stamped processes so that you can easily roll-back to
or report on usage of previous versions without the need to get into any
workflow development.

Process Designer provides these benefits through a graphical interface that
allows process designers to build processes that can be executed within
Remedy based on tasks, dependencies, decisions, rules (such as 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Well if that's how you choose to take it. :)
There is functionality to nest processes inside other processes but I am
not sure how confusing that would get and I've never tried it. I think
there's a visualized though that let's the user see the graphical
representation of the process.
Maybe if Mark Herring or Chris Jones is reading this, they can expand upon
it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Stanley Feinstein st...@projectremedies.com
wrote:

**

Tauf,



Sorry, I was away from my desk for a few minutes and didn’t see your answer
to the question about whether a process could be more than one level deep.
I see that your answer was No.



Thanks.



Stan

w. 310-230-1722.

c. 310-428-5748.



*From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf
Chowdhury
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:26 AM
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!



** 1 more thing for Stan. Don't think of it as a hierarchy where you have
parent/child/grandchild etc... Visually within Task Management, it will
look like a bunch of Sequence 1 tasks listed in the Tasks table of an
Inc/Chg/Pbm. The flow is controlled via the process you build within the
GUI tool of Designer. Think of a vizio workflow being built and then the
flow being enforced by workflow within Remedy. However to the end user,
they just see a list of tasks.



On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Tauf Chowdhury taufc...@gmail.com wrote:

Susan/Stan,
As a customer, I'll try to answer to the best of my ability.
The reason it doesn't come with ARS is probably because in order to get
your processes that you build to work within Remedy, it needs to leverage
Task Management. That is the underlying engine that your processes use to
actually enforce the flows you build. It's all within TMS.
Because of that, you also cannot insert Ad-Hoc tasks in there as it would
break the pre-built nature of the process flow. The whole idea is to
enforce a standard process. Ad-Hoc would break that in most cases.



On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com
wrote:

** And what happens if you're not an ITSM user, a custom only shop.  Why
doesn't it come with ARS as opposed it ITSM?



On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:54 AM, vaibhav wadekar wadekar.vaib...@gmail.com
wrote:

** Hello Vikram,

Abydos analyser is now replaced with Process Designer 8.3.2 and comes with
ITSM 7.6.04 and later. You can download a copy of it from EPD within ITSM
Suite area.

These are the benefits of process designer

Process Designer is the quickest and most cost effective way of
implementing new processes such as Change and Service requests. Remedy
customers can quickly and easily implement processes graphically using
Process Designer without resorting to customisation or having to update
multiple complex templates. This means implementing processes takes a
fraction of the time it would without Process Designer.

Process Designer is a tool for process designers that provides a graphical
interface to build processes that can be executed on Remedy without the
need to develop new applications or customise existing applications or
templates. Process Designer is particularly beneficial for systems that
require multiple different processes and tasks depending on the type of
request such as Change Management, Service Request Management and
Incident/Problem Management.
*The benefits of using Process Designer with Remedy are:*

1. Processes that fit the business - Process Designer allows you to
implement processes that fit the business exactly without having to
customise existing bespoke or out of the box applications.

2. Business user get what they want - Business users know what they are
getting as they are able to understand and review the process in graphical
form exactly as it is implemented.

3. Fast Deployment at lower Cost - Process designers use a simple graphical
interface to implement processes without needing to customise Remedy.

4. Reduced Support and Upgrade Costs - Remedy Administrators have reduced
time and effort in supporting the Remedy applications as there is no
additional development or customisation. Significant effort is also saved
in upgrading as Remedy applications are not customised.

5. Streamlined processes – Process Designer allows the automation of
processes through the implementation of automated actions removing the
necessity of manual intervention where possible.

6. Adherence to management, compliance and audit requirements – Not only is
the process diagram a self documenting description of the process as
implemented but also the Process Tracker provides a diagrammatic view of
the current status and historical flow of every transaction through the
process.

7. Simplified User Interface – Process Designer enables decision trees to
be built quickly to provide a simplified user interface for data required
to support processes. This ensures user 

Re: Any tool similar to Abydos Analyser!!

2012-12-13 Thread Support

Hi Vikram,

You should have a look at www.arsmarts.com.  Maybe the Grapher module 
would answer your needs.


Best regards.

Kaïs.

On 13/12/2012 11:20, Vikram wrote:

hi List,

Can anyone point me to a tool which is similar to Abydos analyser. What we need 
is be able to see the system workflow and forms relationship in a pictorial way 
instead of doing it ourself via the dev studio and show relationship feature.

Is there any such thing avaliable in real which can tell me that this is my 
application structure and this is how the forms are related to each other or I 
sholud better get going with the manual way of finding it out?

Thanks,
Vikram

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VM Clone, things to consider

2012-12-13 Thread Mauricio M.
Hello everyone,

Planning to deploy VM clones to build QA and Dev servers as identical
copies of ITSM 7.6.04 production server, can anyone provide feedback on the
right steps to do that, specially in regards to configuration files,
configuration forms and every place where references to server names should
be considered?

The layout is ITSM 7.6.04 in a server group, Windows 2008, remote SQL
Server 2008, and has integrations with BPPM, ADDM, ITBM, AIS, etc.

Thank you,

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Re: VM Clone, things to consider

2012-12-13 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Mauricio,
This article may be of interest to you

https://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-7710

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mauricio M.
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:09 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: VM Clone, things to consider

** Hello everyone,

Planning to deploy VM clones to build QA and Dev servers as identical copies of 
ITSM 7.6.04 production server, can anyone provide feedback on the right steps 
to do that, specially in regards to configuration files, configuration forms 
and every place where references to server names should be considered?

The layout is ITSM 7.6.04 in a server group, Windows 2008, remote SQL Server 
2008, and has integrations with BPPM, ADDM, ITBM, AIS, etc.

Thank you,

-Mauricio
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Due Soon Change Approvals

2012-12-13 Thread Danaceau, Chris
Has anyone configured Due Soon approvals from approval central?   Can it be 
based on a scheduled start date or must a static interval be defined for the 
process?

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Installing AR Server 7.6.04 on Linux machine

2012-12-13 Thread Anantha Jeyaprakash
We are planning to migrate our Remedy environment from Sun Solaris (oracle
10g) to Linux environment (Oracle 11g). I am trying to install ARS 7.6.04
on Oracle 11g, while installing I am getting the following error.

 LOG EVENT {Description=[[SQLERROR] [DESCRIPTION] Failed to execute SQL
statement],Detail=[[SQLERRORCODE]=2199 [SQLMESSAGE]=ORA-02199: missing
DATAFILE/TEMPFILE clause [SQLSTATEMENT]=CREATE TEMPORARY TABLESPACE
ARTMPSPC]}

Any one has successfully installed ARS 7.6.04 in Linux environment. Please
suggest us how to successfully install Remedy in Linux.

Thanks,
Anand

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Re: Installing AR Server 7.6.04 on Linux machine

2012-12-13 Thread vaibhav wadekar
Hello Anand,

The installer says missing tempfile Did you running installer with
pre-created tablespace or you want installer to create tablespace.

If you let the installer takes care of the tablespace part, you wouldnt hit
into this error. Also during Database panel, select new temp tablespace.

I would do below

01. Drop tablespace, Role, user created on your Linux Db
02. Drop directory structure from /opt/bmc .../etc/arsystem
03. Run the installer again and let the installer create tablespace and
temp tablespace.
If you would want to run againest existing pre-created tablespace, you can
refer 7.6.04 Install Document Page 38


 To use a previously created tablespace in BMC Remedy AR System
1 In a SQL*Plus window, create the tablespace. For example:
create tablespace arsys
datafile 'c:\qa\data\QATST\data\arsys.dbf' size 500M reuse;

2 Create a user. For example:
create user aradmin identified by AR#Admin#
default tablespace arsys
temporary tablespace temp
quota unlimited on arsys;

3 Create a role for the user you created in step 2 above. For example:
create role ARole_arsys not identified;

4 Set the privileges for the role. For example:
grant alter session, create cluster, create database link, create
sequence, create session, create synonym, create table, create
view, create procedure, create trigger, query rewrite to
ARole_arsys;

5 Grant the role to the user. For example:
grant ARole_arsys to aradmin;

++


Hope this helps.

Regards/Vaibhav


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 statement],Detail=[[SQLERRORCODE]=2199 [SQLMESSAGE]=ORA-02199: missing
 DATAFILE/TEMPFILE clause [SQLSTATEMENT]=CREATE TEMPORARY TABLESPACE
 ARTMPSPC]}

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Localization toolkit - translation error: 'is not a JSONObject'

2012-12-13 Thread Robert Schickman
I am trying to localize a number of custom forms using the localization toolkit 
(7.6.4 build 002).
Remedy 7.6.04 SP3 201201302357
BMC Remedy Developer Studio Version: 7.6.04 SP3 

All functionality within the toolkit seems to work fine except for the 
'Translate Strings' option.
When I click that option I get the following error for every item sent for 
translation:

ERROR - Error while translating item string: Complete ;in locale: fr_CA
 [Exception: JSONObject[responseData] is not a JSONObject.]

I could not find much documentation on this error, just this on BMC

Error while translating strings in Localization toolkit
This question is Not Answered.
https://communities.bmc.com/communities/thread/64729

If anyone has any insight or knows how to resolve this problem I would greatly 
appreciate any assistance.

Thank you,
Bob

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Re: Localization toolkit - translation error: 'is not a JSONObject'

2012-12-13 Thread vaibhav wadekar
Appears to me similar to a bug # SW00411857

Translate Strings is not meant for localization work. It was added as a
temporary tool which can be used to test localization by getting strings
translated from Google API.

The errors you see is not error from L10n toolkit. It is error message
returned by Google translation API.
++

Hope this helps.

~ Vaibhav


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Robert Schickman 
robert.schick...@compass-usa.com wrote:

 JSONObject

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