[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
OK Jack, Count me in - I'm an engineer, have test equipment, tools and ladder. Let's go check those lamps out. What's a good time for you? Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to fix them ourselves. I have no fear of heights. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: What about how difficult it is to get a few lights repaired in a troubled park? Ladder, screw driver, light bulbs, Someone to hold the ladder, I;m afraid of heights usually, so I can hold the ladder. Hinge for mayor. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Jack, Count me in - I'm an engineer, have test equipment, tools and ladder. Let's go check those lamps out. What's a good time for you? Werner very nice gesture and i know you are talented, but arnt you in enough trouble, can see the headlines two arrested, for working on private property, these lights are the property and the responsibility of jcpl the city can not even attempt to fix them, if dan is correct it seems the city took the right action and jcp is in the process of fixing it again nice thought and gesture but dont attempt it, got use to the name porch dont want to start calling you bulb boy lol dan thanks for the update, a small correction the bridge is county owned and manintained not state, not busting your back just information jack over the last week or so most of your posts have been posting twice, one right after the other again just lettin you know, thank you Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Remember Michele Schaffer from Be Gallery?
Wow, that's nice to hear about. Michele was one of my favorite AP people while BE was open. I did a few sound gigs for her, and I was quite sad when she left AP. If possible, please send her a message that Hinge says hello. H --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a message I received from one of Asbury Park's pioneers of the art scene on Cookman Avenue. She's up to some great things (as usual) and I thought I'd share this with you - it's for a great cause. In keeping with the mission and vision of our founder, Terry Magovern (please see attached photo) We are having a Carnival for kids and hope you will help us to promote it. Please let us know if you need any more info or visit our web site at www.carnivalforpals.com Come hang out on the beach- Indoors! Carnival For Pals Sunday Nov. 18th 12-4 pm At: Driftwood Beach club Sea Bright, NJ- Sponsored By Stillwell-Hansen, Inc. $5 For 5 Games Carnival games,arts-n-crafts, live music, food, prizes and raffles. This event has been planned, promoted, built and run by kids from our community. Stacy Smith will have her amazing music students performing music as well as kids karaoke in between sets. Raffle prizes include: A day in the life of a Ringling Bros. performer, A VIP tour of a radio station for you and 3 friends, an all expense paid day at Jenkinson's amusements and many more cool experiences for kids to win- aside from an amazing prize booth. All proceeds to benefit Joan Dancy and PALS ( people with ALS) support group. An organization started by Terry Magovern after his fiance' died from ALS (better known as Lou Gehrig's disease). Joan Dancy and Pals provide financial support as well as medical equipment, in home nursing, a support group, and help in any way they can help. Please help us to promote this event. Thanks so much!! Peace, Michele, Stephanie and Tricia Schaeffer www.carnivalforpals.com A grassroots fund raising event to draw awareness and financial support for patients and families affected by ALS. As children are our future, we invite them to have fun while helping others within their own community. They are our Advisory Board and the leaders of tomorrow. 100% of the revenue will go to Joan Dancy and PALS Carl Chesna, Broker-Associate Prudential Zack Shore Properties www.carlandbill.com 917-374-5779 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Special BOE meeting tonight
Tonight (Wednesday) at 6:30 PM at the Thurgood Marshall Elementary School (the site of the old Bond Street School), the BOE will hold a Special Meeting to discuss in public the QSAC report that's an acronym for Quality Standards Accountability Compliance, or something like that, I think. It is a public meeting, and you are welcome to be there. Also scheduled to be there is the NJ Commissioner of Education, Lucille Davy. She is reportedly going to introduce to the Board and the public the person the State has chosen to be their official monitor who supposedly will have veto power over anything the Board or the Acting Superintendent can do, creating in effect an Uber-Superintendent in my opinion (since I do not speak for the Board). If you have an opinion one way or another on this, you are welcome to come to the meeting tonight. Frank D'Alessandro, BOE member Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Comment on the Esperanza Sale
Any chance you might have the link handy for the BCH story? Thank you --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A comment left on the Real Deal. Very unlike the typical negative NJ comments on the APP anytime there is even a good AP story (see today's APP about BCH). My parents live in Allenhurst which is just north of Asbury. Allenhurst and Deal just north are extremely wealthy towns where ocean front houses have sold for over 20 million dollars, a house on about a third of an acre, but ocean front just sold for 5.5 million in Allenhurst. Forbes listed Deal as the 13th most expensive zip code in the country. To the south is Spring Lake also an extremely wealthy town. Asbury shares the same proximity to the beach and views, plus its only an hour from Manhattan. Why shouldn't it be able to turn itself aroun Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
Werner, I do know that the APHS is working on this as well, and their effort is to repair and preserve the historic lighting. Only one of the old lights is out. There is a newer one near the center of the park that is intermittent, and probably easily fixed. It works , sometimes, for a few minutes at a time. Sounds like a ballast problem to me. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL I'll be Porch Bulb then. You bring up an issue that may be the reason for all the trouble. Who's lamps are they? Who's responsible for maintaining them? I suspect that issue is not clear. The park is City owned (public) property. JCPL equipment (street lamps) are usually placed to light Rights of Way (the streets). Lighting public parks is not the responsibility of JCPL. We need to identify the details of this arrangment. Who 'owns' the lamps, who will maintain them? My fear is that this issue will escalate to WE JUST NEED LIGHT and the historic fixtures will be removed, halogen flood lights installed and it will be another badly executed project. Let's do this one right; history, character, and appropriate lighting levels can all work together. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: OK Jack, Count me in - I'm an engineer, have test equipment, tools and ladder. Let's go check those lamps out. What's a good time for you? Werner very nice gesture and i know you are talented, but arnt you in enough trouble, can see the headlines two arrested, for working on private property, these lights are the property and the responsibility of jcpl the city can not even attempt to fix them, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
This is what is needed, I do feel members of this board could get four others elected. Just think about what a powerful force we could be as a campaign committee. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could that meeting be the first step to use emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all over by themselves? Just a thought - and a question for all of you to ponder. Glenn I said this a couple years ago. I called it reverse eminent domain. At least take phase II and III of Wesley Grove, remove the redevelopment zone that covers homes east of kingsley which will enable owners to work on their own properties or remove the cloud. Take the pony block, the lot behind empress, 3rd ave block take it and resell it to INDIVIDUAL, national developers. Reverse eminent domain. There's an excellent recent court decision to support this today. It's called KELO. Kelo - while an area might look good or not be blighted, there is a better public good that will produce more taxes and better the life of the local residents. Get rid of the council except 1. New attorneys. New life. Time to use KELO as the court wants it to be used. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
Great posts the last 2 days! Not sure if I like the planters as I have not seen them. I will be in AP tommorrow for a meeting and will take a look. I am up in Rochester with the Wegman's guys.we just starting packing a new organic strawberry and raspberry jam for them under the wegman (Jammin) label...65% fruit and significantly less calories of the typical jams in the market loaded with sugar / corn syrup, extenders, etc. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Typical uninformed, Ra-Ra cheerleader attitude. Details are the difference between a great job and just 'doing something'. Werner Werner! How are you accusing this person of being a cheerleader?? They said MM has the money to make things look nice, and that they are doing it. They like the planters, thats a crime??? It's not their fault you don't. Nothing i've read has anything to do with the attitude your trying to spin on this. Anything is better then nothing No one is claiming that from what i've read so far.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Library Square Lights Update
Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of yesterday we were able to confirm that there are two lights out.and that JCPL committed to fixing them by the end of the week (they were shooting for today, but I would not bank on that). Hope this helps in the battle to keep accurate information alive and well in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Remember Michele Schaffer from Be Gallery?
Here's a message I received from one of Asbury Park's pioneers of the art scene on Cookman Avenue. She's up to some great things (as usual) and I thought I'd share this with you - it's for a great cause. In keeping with the mission and vision of our founder, Terry Magovern (please see attached photo) We are having a Carnival for kids and hope you will help us to promote it. Please let us know if you need any more info or visit our web site at www.carnivalforpals.com Come hang out on the beach- Indoors! Carnival For Pals Sunday Nov. 18th 12-4 pm At: Driftwood Beach club Sea Bright, NJ- Sponsored By Stillwell-Hansen, Inc. $5 For 5 Games Carnival games,arts-n-crafts, live music, food, prizes and raffles. This event has been planned, promoted, built and run by kids from our community. Stacy Smith will have her amazing music students performing music as well as kids karaoke in between sets. Raffle prizes include: A day in the life of a Ringling Bros. performer, A VIP tour of a radio station for you and 3 friends, an all expense paid day at Jenkinson's amusements and many more cool experiences for kids to win- aside from an amazing prize booth. All proceeds to benefit Joan Dancy and PALS ( people with ALS) support group. An organization started by Terry Magovern after his fiance' died from ALS (better known as Lou Gehrig's disease). Joan Dancy and Pals provide financial support as well as medical equipment, in home nursing, a support group, and help in any way they can help. Please help us to promote this event. Thanks so much!! Peace, Michele, Stephanie and Tricia Schaeffer www.carnivalforpals.com A grassroots fund raising event to draw awareness and financial support for patients and families affected by ALS. As children are our future, we invite them to have fun while helping others within their own community. They are our Advisory Board and the leaders of tomorrow. 100% of the revenue will go to Joan Dancy and PALS Carl Chesna, Broker-Associate Prudential Zack Shore Properties www.carlandbill.com 917-374-5779
[AsburyPark] Re: How does BW activity help the bottom line ?
The problem with you Werner, is YOU make TOO much sense! You lay it all out plain and simple! No double talk, double entendre's, nada! Plain old english, the way I like it. If I could repeat my post to you, I would. If I could apologize for the actions, taken against you, I hope you know, that this group, is in your corner. You have been the voice of reason, of good common sense, a person who REALLY cares and knows what this City was and now, what it is. I've learned so much through you, Frank, Mario, Dan, Glenn, Jack, Maureen, God Bless her, the short salespro, the bikeman, the couple and if I missed someone, I didn't mean to leave you out! Really, I thought I knew about AP; yeah, I've been reading negative stuff about this town, since I landed here, but I was taught, Believe NONE of what you hear, and HALF, of what you see! I knew that there must be something awfully valuable here, because EVERYBODY, want a piece! Like the Big Apple, I ain't never got a bite! Let me back up a bit; Thanks to the legal eagle, JR and all of the real estate people! Know what else? I don't agree with everyone, all the time, but I respect the fact that I just may be wrong, as perfect as I think I am! After a hard election, where lots of mud was flung, we're still here. Werner, thanks for your knowledge and I wish I had done my homework, like you have. Just wanted to give you 2 thumbs up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: As hard as it is to feel this way, I don't think MM can be saddled with the sins of the past and be forced to play catchup, either by working 5 times faster or by somehow being forced to deal with the shortfall in taxables caused by Partners lack of progress. My opinion is that you have to look at MM's entry as the starting point for them and judge what they are able to do in a reasonable timeframe apart from justifyable frustrations that should be directed to Partners. It is never wise to punish the son for the sins of the father. Judge MM on what they are doing as though the slate with them is clean. Again, nobody will always agree with what they do but overall they seem to be investing and things are getting done. I wish we had five years back but we don't and it wasn't their fault. === Just some clarification as to the responsibilities/positions of the parties involved. Asbury Partners has the development rights in the entire Redevelopment Area (I'll give the boundaries if anyone is interested) They are responsible for assembling large parcels of property in the RA and selling them to 'real' developers. They own everything east of Ocean Ave due to the sale of public property by the City. That property is not in the RA and has not been rehabilitated as was promised. Madison Marquette is a partner of Asbury Partners with Asbury Partners holding the majority say. MM is in for the retail component along the beachfront (E of Ocean Ave). Then there's Paramount (N of BCH) Metro (C-8) and Westminster (Wesley) all of which are developing property that Asbury Partners received title to from the Carabetta settlement. No ED was used to acquire them. The point of all this - just to put it all in perspective while figuring out who to blame/praise for what's going on. (Ultimately, isn't it the City Council?) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
Werner, I do know that the APHS is working on this as well, and their effort is to repair and preserve the historic lighting. Only one of the old lights is out. There is a newer one near the center of the park that is intermittent, and probably easily fixed. It works , sometimes, for a few minutes at a time. Sounds like a ballast problem to me. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL I'll be Porch Bulb then. You bring up an issue that may be the reason for all the trouble. Who's lamps are they? Who's responsible for maintaining them? I suspect that issue is not clear. The park is City owned (public) property. JCPL equipment (street lamps) are usually placed to light Rights of Way (the streets). Lighting public parks is not the responsibility of JCPL. We need to identify the details of this arrangment. Who 'owns' the lamps, who will maintain them? My fear is that this issue will escalate to WE JUST NEED LIGHT and the historic fixtures will be removed, halogen flood lights installed and it will be another badly executed project. Let's do this one right; history, character, and appropriate lighting levels can all work together. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: OK Jack, Count me in - I'm an engineer, have test equipment, tools and ladder. Let's go check those lamps out. What's a good time for you? Werner very nice gesture and i know you are talented, but arnt you in enough trouble, can see the headlines two arrested, for working on private property, these lights are the property and the responsibility of jcpl the city can not even attempt to fix them, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL I'll be Porch Bulb then. More likely Porch Light. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Comment on the Esperanza Sale
-that sale sounds like very good PR. See if the sale was recorded with the city and see who the buyer is. Is it an individual or LLC... At one pep rally DEan did say he and his brother were both buying a PH. Good for them. How much was the mortgage recorded for? Who holds it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Remember Michele Schaffer from Be Gallery?
Wow, that's nice to hear about. Michele was one of my favorite AP people while BE was open. I did a few sound gigs for her, and I was quite sad when she left AP. If possible, please send her a message that Hinge says hello. H --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a message I received from one of Asbury Park's pioneers of the art scene on Cookman Avenue. She's up to some great things (as usual) and I thought I'd share this with you - it's for a great cause. In keeping with the mission and vision of our founder, Terry Magovern (please see attached photo) We are having a Carnival for kids and hope you will help us to promote it. Please let us know if you need any more info or visit our web site at www.carnivalforpals.com Come hang out on the beach- Indoors! Carnival For Pals Sunday Nov. 18th 12-4 pm At: Driftwood Beach club Sea Bright, NJ- Sponsored By Stillwell-Hansen, Inc. $5 For 5 Games Carnival games,arts-n-crafts, live music, food, prizes and raffles. This event has been planned, promoted, built and run by kids from our community. Stacy Smith will have her amazing music students performing music as well as kids karaoke in between sets. Raffle prizes include: A day in the life of a Ringling Bros. performer, A VIP tour of a radio station for you and 3 friends, an all expense paid day at Jenkinson's amusements and many more cool experiences for kids to win- aside from an amazing prize booth. All proceeds to benefit Joan Dancy and PALS ( people with ALS) support group. An organization started by Terry Magovern after his fiance' died from ALS (better known as Lou Gehrig's disease). Joan Dancy and Pals provide financial support as well as medical equipment, in home nursing, a support group, and help in any way they can help. Please help us to promote this event. Thanks so much!! Peace, Michele, Stephanie and Tricia Schaeffer www.carnivalforpals.com A grassroots fund raising event to draw awareness and financial support for patients and families affected by ALS. As children are our future, we invite them to have fun while helping others within their own community. They are our Advisory Board and the leaders of tomorrow. 100% of the revenue will go to Joan Dancy and PALS Carl Chesna, Broker-Associate Prudential Zack Shore Properties www.carlandbill.com 917-374-5779 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Skeptics say Economic Impact Unclear
Ditto, my last post! Forgot to mention Oakdorf! Thanks again Oak, for educating me! Werner, these two posts are the AP, my kids were raised with BF, to borrow your acronym! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Sobering thoughts about the arena. I remember when, a long time ago, AP had all its hopes in one or two baskets (gambling, Jai alai, etc.). Hope we stay on track with a holistic approach as mentioned in this article. Adapted from Newark Arena's Economic Impact Unclear - New York Times == And, for a blast from the past regarding 'holistic' development read my writings from BF (Before Fishman): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/372 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/603 Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] donating art to AP benefits
I saw the notice for the Little League and, being an artist, I don't have any money to donate but I'm always happy to donate art for any AP benefits. So those of you who coordinate benefit auctions, raffles, etc. please keep my email address handy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've done some nice black walnut ink drawings from historic AP sites that aren't on the website but I'll get them up there later this week. I made the ink from the nuts that barraged my back yard on 4th Ave. preview other work at LindaGriggs.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update
Great news Dan! Thanks --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of yesterday we were able to confirm that there are two lights out.and that JCPL committed to fixing them by the end of the week (they were shooting for today, but I would not bank on that). Hope this helps in the battle to keep accurate information alive and well in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update
Great news Dan! Thanks --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of yesterday we were able to confirm that there are two lights out.and that JCPL committed to fixing them by the end of the week (they were shooting for today, but I would not bank on that). Hope this helps in the battle to keep accurate information alive and well in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just a Thought from Outside the Box
The problem is also the amount of money the four council members took from Asbury Partners in the last election. Tens of thousands of dollars. And mostly from New York and California people. Go to the New Jersey Election Committee web site and look at the reports. Can anyone upload them to this site? Mario or Dan? You want this to change, elect others. Keep Keady. Not sure on Johnson. The End. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The Partners have used emminent domain at their will to claim many properties whith wich they do NOTHING with (unless, of course MM presses them to do so.) Could that meeting be the first step to use emminent domain AGAINST the Partners and to allow MM to take it all over by themselves? I have written and spoken about this for a couple of years. I have advised (or tried to) on this matter. The WRA prohibits the City from condemning property in the redevelopment zone without Partner's approval. That is so Partners cannot be forced to take and pay for property before it wants to. It would include Partners properties as well. However, what I told the city, is that it cannot contractually agree to limits its inherent sovereign power. Thus, nothing could stop the city from violating that provision. Only the state legislature can limit a local sovereign's power of eminent domain. However, that being said, while nothing could stop the city from taking property contrary to that provision, Partners might be able to sue for breach of contract. However, another possibility is that the court could find that the provision limiting the city's power of eminent domain was contrary to the public good and thus, the provision is not only unenforceable but void ab initio (never existed). All of this is an invitation to litigation. No one wanted it, especially after being held in purgatory by the bankruptcy court. However, I believe that ultimately a tiger cannot change its stripes and litigation will be necessary. While I wish it did not have to happen, perhaps the city leaders will finally reach the breaking point and decide that we have to tighten our belts and go to the mattresses. That litigation could grease the skids for Partners' exit. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update
I thought someone from the city was to report to JCPL when the light poles are out. This particular situation with the park should have been reported by the police to someone to get them fixed. This is irresponsible and symbolic of public servant apathy. Who else from city government is roaming the streets at night except for the police. They would be the ones to notice what areas of the city are without working light poles. The ball is clearly in their court to report this information up the ladder. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack and Werner, stay off of those ladders. Recent update from Terry below: I know that they are JCPL lamps.and that JCPL was contacted again yesterdayagain, the district manager was our contactas of yesterday we were able to confirm that there are two lights out.and that JCPL committed to fixing them by the end of the week (they were shooting for today, but I would not bank on that). Hope this helps in the battle to keep accurate information alive and well in Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: donating art to AP benefits
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the notice for the Little League and, being an artist, I don't have any money to donate but I'm always happy to donate art for any AP benefits. how about doing a piece on kids playing little league bb then auctioning that off. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Library Square Lights Update
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought someone from the city was to report to JCPL when the light poles are out. This particular situation with the park should have been reported by the police to someone to get them fixed. This is irresponsible and symbolic of public servant apathy. Who else from city government is roaming the streets at night except for the police. They would be the ones to notice what areas of the city are without working light poles. The ball is clearly in their court to report this information up the ladder. I don't know about that. They seem to have a full plate. Typically governments have to rely on citizens to inform them of things like this. What would be an issue is how the reports by citizens are handled. But that being said, perhaps, we can ask the chief to remind officers that when on patrol, and time affords, that they should note any streetlights that are not working and notify the city. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Economy
From Crain's. The implications of the Chinese stop buying dollar denominated investments and US treasuries is frightening. Interest rates will escalate. The 13-nation euro hit a fresh record against the dollar -- rising to $1.4729 -- before falling back. The dollar fell not only against the euro but in Asia following a report that a senior Chinese political figure said China should diversify its $1.43 trillion foreign exchange reserves into the euro and other strong currencies. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Legalize This!
OT, but thought some would enjoy this with your nightcaps, morning coffee, or... whatever. From Click here: Devices Enforce Silence of Cellphones, Illegally - New York Times http://nytimes.com/2007/11/04/technology/04jammer.html?ei=5087en=ffb81\ 52ab2245c2dex=121005excamp=mkt_at1pagewanted=all One afternoon in early September, an architect boarded his commuter train and became a cellphone vigilante. He sat down next to a 20-something woman who he said was blabbing away into her phone. She was using the word `like' all the time. She sounded like a Valley Girl, said the architect, Andrew, who declined to give his last name because what he did next was illegal. And some of the letters in response are even better. Like: 1. As my fellow riders rolled their eyes and gritted their teeth, I turned my head slightly over my shoulder and yelled (I have a pretty strong yell), Shaddup already!2. Could you speak just a bit louder they can't quite hear you in Brooklyn.3. You want to talk real loud about, like, nothing? You can do that at home as much as you want. Oh, you don't want to waste your time at home talking about nothing? O.K., then save it for work. No one expects anything else of you there anyway.Excerpted from letters: Click here: When Your Cellphone Is in My Space - New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/opinion/l06cell.html?n=Top/Opinion/Ed\ itorials%20and%20Op-Ed/Letters Now if only someone would invent a device to zap or embarrass litterers. Quite a civil society, eh?[;)]
[AsburyPark] Re: Economy
In a message dated 11/7/2007 4:32:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From Crain's. The implications of the Chinese stop buying dollar denominated investments and US treasuries is frightening. Interest rates will escalate. From Online NewsHour: Update | Citigroup CEO Resigns | November 5, 2007 | PBS http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec07/citigroup_11-05.html\ ROBEN FARZAD, Editor, BusinessWeek: Citigroup is a far bigger animal than Merrill Lynch is. Merrill Lynch is an icon of Wall Street; Citigroup is that 300,000 strong, 100-nation financial supermarket. And it is the largest U.S. bank in terms of asset size. So its tentacles reach out everywhere around the world, so any time something like this happens, naturally the entire sector is very nervous. The worry is that it's the tip of the iceberg, because we know plus or minus $55 billion in mortgage-related securities sit on Citigroup's books. Anyone who was part of a caretaker board -- and, by the way, it's not just him. It's people as diverse as Dick Parsons, the CEO of Time Warner. You had C. Michael Armstrong, who helped run ATT into the ground at the audit committee. I think it's becoming abundantly clear that the board was asleep at the switch, and they allowed the CEO to take ever larger amounts of risk and embolden the troops to do as much. And, obviously, they're paying for it in spades. Online NewsHour: Update | Citigroup CEO Resigns | November 5, 2007 | PBS http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec07/citigroup_11-05.html\
[AsburyPark] Tonight's Special BOE meeting
Tonight's Special BOE meeting could not be held since adequate notice had not been sent to the newspapers of record. Instead, the regular monthly meeting for November, scheduled for Wednesday, Nov. 28, will begin at 6:30 PM to give the Commissioner of Education and the public the extra time necessary to discuss the State monitor's report. Had we held the meeting without adequate notice, we would have been in violation of the Open Public Meetings Act. We try to observe all laws, even Murphy's. Tonight the local ministers from Neptune/Asbury had neatly lettered signs denouncing the BOE and claiming we were hurting the children, and former Board member Antoinette (Toni) Ross passed around hand written petitions demanding that most BOE members (including yours truly) be removed. The Board's attorney made the announcement concerning the inability to proceed with the meeting and the apologies to the people assembled. All in all it was a very Asbury experience. Speaking for myself, I likened it to an amateur performance of Waiting for Godot. Beckett would have been proud. Frank D'Alessandro, BOE member Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/