Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here
This guy is none else, bu the recent abuser(who abused me) Bikash Kr Das, son of Paniram Das, Kalaigaon. He now stays in Bangalore. I just came to know about this evening. This is happening in Orkut website. I stopped using orkut before many months, but today one of my friend informed me about it. I have already informed Ajit Kr Bhuyan. He will lodge a FIR against that idiot. He thinks, he can't be trapped. Stupid fellow, he is using orkut's Indian edition, where his login activities are being recorded in Hyderbad Server, regardless what fake account he uses. I am watching for other's act. From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here How did I get drawn into this? BTW, IF Mukul Mahanta is ULFA's big boss, how come he is not in prison ? Or for that matter Dhrubajyoti? Does this guy know what he is talking about, or is smearing his game? Who is this character anyway Dhruba? And where did this conversation take place? cm On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Netters, Now the self styled So-called(!), is getting some more expressive. That frustrated guy is getting more frustrated day by day, because ULFA is not wanting his so-called Freedom Fighter(Gandhi's Walking parade, was that Fight!), in lateral dialogue, even after his several request to ULFA leaders via emails. It is not only an attack on me, but all the respected fellows. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka SCREENSHOT1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here :::: Final strokes
Now I am going to forward ultimate proofs against him. Are you ready all? Khura, ki koi? That looser is always trappped almost years back. From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here How did I get drawn into this? BTW, IF Mukul Mahanta is ULFA's big boss, how come he is not in prison ? Or for that matter Dhrubajyoti? Does this guy know what he is talking about, or is smearing his game? Who is this character anyway Dhruba? And where did this conversation take place? cm On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Netters, Now the self styled So-called(!), is getting some more expressive. That frustrated guy is getting more frustrated day by day, because ULFA is not wanting his so-called Freedom Fighter(Gandhi's Walking parade, was that Fight!), in lateral dialogue, even after his several request to ULFA leaders via emails. It is not only an attack on me, but all the respected fellows. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka SCREENSHOT1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance
Khura, Oppps, I haven't yet found any guidlines of assamnet. I was told by Babulda, anything can be discussed except racial religious. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:56:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance Dhruba: These are NOT issues for discussing in assamnet. If Bikash had posted such comments here, that would be a different matter. Please don't post these things from other forums here, even though Bikash has been a member of this net. If he wishes to start it here, we will respond accordingly. But since he has not, let us not carry this any farther in assamnet. k On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: The attachment is an email that the Bikash Kr Das wrote to somebody. Check what he wrote. From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here How did I get drawn into this? BTW, IF Mukul Mahanta is ULFA's big boss, how come he is not in prison ? Or for that matter Dhrubajyoti? Does this guy know what he is talking about, or is smearing his game? Who is this character anyway Dhruba? And where did this conversation take place? cm On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Netters, Now the self styled So-called(!), is getting some more expressive. That frustrated guy is getting more frustrated day by day, because ULFA is not wanting his so-called Freedom Fighter(Gandhi's Walking parade, was that Fight!), in lateral dialogue, even after his several request to ULFA leaders via emails. It is not only an attack on me, but all the respected fellows. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka SCREENSHOT1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org EMAIL1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance
Khura, I posted these posts, because getting no response for his post, he started it in Orkut. But it is more biased than before. As, manybody do not use Orkut, I prefered to inform the fellows, by this mailman. He abused you, Mukul khura lots of people like Hiren Gohain, Mamoni Roysom Goswami etc. I prefered to notify about his activity, not only because he abused me, but he included manybody's name. I can alone handle him by my way. I do not care for that frustrated guy. But I care for those who co-operated Times of Assam, and I do not want them to be abused for it by anybody. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance That is true, except that The posts from Bikash in another forum are personal attacks, that has no place in our forum. We try to to avoid these, even though, every now and then we run into them. So, don't get involved in these things. I know Bikash attacked you personally in a previous post here, but had he not stopped on his own, others would have stopped him. On Sep 1, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Khura, Oppps, I haven't yet found any guidlines of assamnet. I was told by Babulda, anything can be discussed except racial religious. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:56:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance Dhruba: These are NOT issues for discussing in assamnet. If Bikash had posted such comments here, that would be a different matter. Please don't post these things from other forums here, even though Bikash has been a member of this net. If he wishes to start it here, we will respond accordingly. But since he has not, let us not carry this any farther in assamnet. k On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: The attachment is an email that the Bikash Kr Das wrote to somebody. Check what he wrote. From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here How did I get drawn into this? BTW, IF Mukul Mahanta is ULFA's big boss, how come he is not in prison ? Or for that matter Dhrubajyoti? Does this guy know what he is talking about, or is smearing his game? Who is this character anyway Dhruba? And where did this conversation take place? cm On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Netters, Now the self styled So-called(!), is getting some more expressive. That frustrated guy is getting more frustrated day by day, because ULFA is not wanting his so-called Freedom Fighter(Gandhi's Walking parade, was that Fight!), in lateral dialogue, even after his several request to ULFA leaders via emails. It is not only an attack on me, but all the respected fellows. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka SCREENSHOT1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org EMAIL1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance
Khura, I can understand whatever you said. But can not digest any abuse on person, based on false or self interest related intention. It does not matter, whom he/she is abusing is related with me or not. For example I have worked under Ajit Kr Bhuyan, 5 year back, but not now. But till I respect Bhuyan Sir. Even Mukul Khura also are not in touch for long days, till I respect. I can not digest, no matter whom he/she is abusing is related to me or not. These post, I just had to vomit out somewhere, as it is hard to digest. So I did vomit here. :) -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:33:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance I understand. Personally, I can't care less about people making slanderous comments about me, regardless of what those are, not in assamnet, not elsewhere. I will engage them, if they have they do that in this forum. But since it was NOT here, we should NOT drag everyone else into having to witness or endure it. It would be different matter, had Bikash made those comments here. If we indulge in personal attacks, our forum will turn into a mud- slinging festival. We must therefore do our part to preserve and elevate the tenor of our discussions. If not we, who ? On Sep 1, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Khura, I posted these posts, because getting no response for his post, he started it in Orkut. But it is more biased than before. As, manybody do not use Orkut, I prefered to inform the fellows, by this mailman. He abused you, Mukul khura lots of people like Hiren Gohain, Mamoni Roysom Goswami etc. I prefered to notify about his activity, not only because he abused me, but he included manybody's name. I can alone handle him by my way. I do not care for that frustrated guy. But I care for those who co-operated Times of Assam, and I do not want them to be abused for it by anybody. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance That is true, except that The posts from Bikash in another forum are personal attacks, that has no place in our forum. We try to to avoid these, even though, every now and then we run into them. So, don't get involved in these things. I know Bikash attacked you personally in a previous post here, but had he not stopped on his own, others would have stopped him. On Sep 1, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Khura, Oppps, I haven't yet found any guidlines of assamnet. I was told by Babulda, anything can be discussed except racial religious. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:56:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Final proof 1 of the nuisance Dhruba: These are NOT issues for discussing in assamnet. If Bikash had posted such comments here, that would be a different matter. Please don't post these things from other forums here, even though Bikash has been a member of this net. If he wishes to start it here, we will respond accordingly. But since he has not, let us not carry this any farther in assamnet. k On Sep 1, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: The attachment is an email that the Bikash Kr Das wrote to somebody. Check what he wrote. From: cmaha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Assam] Cyber Campain of a Nuisance known to all here How did I get drawn into this? BTW, IF Mukul Mahanta is ULFA's big boss, how come he is not in prison ? Or for that matter Dhrubajyoti? Does this guy know what he is talking about, or is smearing his game? Who is this character anyway Dhruba? And where did this conversation take place? cm On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Netters, Now the self styled So-called(!), is getting some more expressive. That frustrated guy is getting more frustrated day by day, because ULFA is not wanting his so-called Freedom Fighter(Gandhi's Walking parade, was that Fight!), in lateral dialogue, even after his several request to ULFA leaders via emails. It is not only an attack on me, but all the respected fellows. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka SCREENSHOT1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org EMAIL1.png___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Re: [Assam] Dy 365 (T.V. Channel from North East) can watch online.
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Re: [Assam] DU Stand-Off
Well said somehow. From: c_pat...@hotmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 01:42:29 + Subject: [Assam] DU Stand-Off All the student organizations are lending their support to DU students protesting fee hike. But the VC of DU KC Deka seems to be man of courage and principle. Students may view it as arrogance. But university authority needs money as government does not give much. If the VC is forced to go because of student agitation, it will be unfortunate.At the same time can anything be done to alleviate the burden on students, if fee hike is really too much? Unfortunatly , parents of the same students will be willing/compelled to pay through their nose had their wards been studing in private some south indian engineering colleges after not getting admission in any of the state colleges/universities. Varsity fee hike stand-off on - DU students demand VC ouster; organisations back agitation, call bandh OUR CORRESPONDENT Dibrugarh, Aug. 26: The unrest in Dibrugarh University (DU) since Tuesday took a turn for the worse today with both the students and authorities sticking to their respective grounds on the fee hike issue and the “vice-chancellor ouster cry” getting shriller. Students hoisted black flags in all the departments of the campus, the vice-chancellor’s office and the main administrative block since early morning in protest against the “arrogant” attitude of the authorities on the issue. The students also wore black badges and organised a demonstration in front of the locked vice-chancellor’s office in clear defiance of prohibitory orders issued by the Dibrugarh district administration under Section 144 CrPc. Carrying placards, banners and festoons, the students also shouted slogans demanding the ouster of university vice-chancellor Kandarpa Kumar Deka. “Initially, our demand was an immediate rollback of the hiked fee structure. But now the ouster of the arrogant VC is our main demand. We will not stop our agitation and are prepared to face bullets,” said Arindam Buragohain, the general secretary of the Dibrugarh University Post- Graduate Students Union (DUPGSU). The students are agitating on the fee hike issue under the leadership of the union and All Assam Students’ Union. As the VC entered the main administrative building today, the students laid siege to it, besides blocking the main entrance to the building. The students, after an hour of demonstration, took out a mock funeral procession on the campus. “The vice-chancellor had shown total disrespect towards the genuine demands of the students. The VC had even asked the administration and police to forcefully thwart our agitation. Therefore, we had no other option. We demand that a new VC be appointed at DU,” Buragohain said. The protesters also launched a signature campaign among the students. “We will submit the signatures along with a memorandum to the Governor and chancellor J.B. Patnaik demanding immediate removal of the vice-chancellor and appointment of a new VC who will be sympathetic to our demands, Kasturi Nath, president-in-charge of the DUPGSU, said. The district administration, which had issued prohibitory orders on Wednesday, apparently did not impose them in the first half of the day. However, in the afternoon, a huge police contingent, led by additional SP (headquarters), Debashish Sarma, entered the campus and urged students to disperse. The students, till the filing of this report, were locked in talks with Dibrugarh additional DC Bandana Dutta Tamuli and magistrate Sarangapani Sarma. When contacted over phone, the vice-chancellor said the university administration was open to holding discussions on the fee hike. “All issues can be settled through discussions only. However, if the students remain arrogant, we, too, will be compelled to initiate harsher action,” he said. The All Assam Muttock Yuba Chatra Sanmelan, Tai-Ahom Yuba Parishad, All Assam Tea Tribes Students’ Association, All Koch-Rajbongshi Students’ Union, Sonowal-Kachari Students’ Union, All Deori Students’ Union and Asom Jatiyatabadi Yuba Parishad have extended support to the agitation. They have even called a 12-hour Dibrugarh district bandh on August 31 on the issue. The North East Students Organisation, too, has extended support to the agitation. NESO secretary general Gumjum Haider told reporters that the university would have to withdraw the hiked fee structure. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Buljithotor Xopwn-Parthaprodip Bora (Amar Asom, 25.08.10)
What it means by who knows his roots ? From: baru...@hotmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:28:21 -0500 Subject: [Assam] Buljithotor Xopwn-Parthaprodip Bora (Amar Asom,25.08.10) FriendsLet the North East be filled with young guys like Buljit who knows his roots well and can not only dream while holding onto his roots but also act to make that dream a realty.Please read Buljit-hotor Xopwn written by -Parthaprodip Bora (Amar Asom,25.08.2010). http://amarasom.glpublications.in/Details.aspx?id=1818boxid=105356281BuljitCongratulations and keep up the good work.Rajen da ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] I am not opposed to talks: ULFA leader
In an e-mail sent to the media in Guwahati, Barua claimed that the solution to Which media? Which email? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:54:05 -0700 From: navathaku...@yahoo.com To: northeastjour...@yahoogroups.com CC: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] I am not opposed to talks: ULFA leader http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_i-am-not-opposed-to-talks-ulfa-leader_1428005 I am not opposed to talks: ULFA leader ULFA commander-in-chief Paresh Barua today said that he was not opposed to talks but was against any diversion in the outfit's ideology. In an e-mail sent to the media in Guwahati, Barua claimed that the solution to the Assam's problem had become more complicated with the various uncalled for statements by Sanmilita Jatia Abhibartan's convenor Dr Hiren Gohain. Gohain, who along with other prominent intellectuals of the state decided to help in the process of peace talks, had recently remarked that Barua alone cannot decide the fate of the state and talks should proceed irrespective of whether he comes for negotiations or not. Reacting to this, Barua said, ULFA's struggle alone cannot decide the fate of Assamese people. I am just a part of the struggle. I am not opposed to talks. I am just against deviating from our ideology. Dr Gohain is not aware of ULFA's history and long struggle for Assam's sovereignty, he added. Dr Gohain's statement has helped the vested interests and has only further complicated the process to resolve the problems facing the people of Assam, he added. Gohain had said at the inauguration of the Abhibartan's Nalbari district unit on Sunday Barua cannot decide the fate of Assam. It is in the hands of the common people and they alone can take a decision in this regard. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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Re: [Assam] Assamnet MODERATOR
:-( From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:51:34 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Assamnet MODERATOR You have to understand WHAT a moderator does or does not do in this forum: He does NOT review, edit, censor or otherwise tamper with what people post. It is left to an adult, responsible , educated and civil membership who ought to know how to operate in a responsible manner. On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Just few mins before, the Webmaster of the assamnet called me from Bangalore. He said, somebody from USA asked about me to him. :P From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:24:56 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Assamnet MODERATOR We have no MODERATOR who censors posts in this forum. We are expected to behave like responsible, civil, adults. And if we don't, it is reflection on US, not on assamnet or its webmaster. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Khura, When we emulate the examples of those that we decry, then we descend to a lower level ,ourselves. And if we continue on that trend, imagine where our civilizations would ultimately end in? Not at all about critisize. Just I remember, how people of Assam voted for Debojit Saha to win Bharat Kontho. But at the prize ceremony, when anchor was saying Please give claps for the winner Debojit Saha from West Bengal, Debojit did not even utter a word that he is not from West Bengal. Bengalis who live in Assam and call it their home are just as Assamese as you or Bhodai Kalita of Jokai-suk. And they have a right to their cultural heritage just as you or others do. To deny that or take issue with that will never make a better Assam. You all must remember that! One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi or Marwari or so on? -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:59:46 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form D: Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? When we emulate the examples of those that we decry, then we descend to a lower level ,ourselves. And if we continue on that trend, imagine where our civilizations would ultimately end in? Bengalis who live in Assam and call it their home are just as Assamese as you or Bhodai Kalita of Jokai-suk. And they have a right to their cultural heritage just as you or others do. To deny that or take issue with that will never make a better Assam. You all must remember that! k On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. Why Assam Govt recognized other state's medium as Govt school Medium? In Barak Valley. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:06:44 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Go and try to start an Assamese school - say in Gujarat, and then let me know if the Govt. of Gujarat shuts it down. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. And Assamnet does not belong to any govt. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Khura, I went to Karimganj town with a student of Silchar university, in 2008 December. I wondered they talked to me in Hindi. And the people use to say Brahmaputra valley as Assam. For Example amra kalke Assam jabo This doesn't mean no Assamee tried. Late Parag Kr Dass tried, what happened? Nothing. AASU tried and till trying. What is happening. No Change. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:20:21 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form I know what you mean and am aware of it all. But, SOMEONE has to begin to show a better way. To emulate what we don't approve of or decry will not bring change. BETTER examples will. And who can be counted on to lead the way? Those who are ignorant or unwilling or those who know better? The higher burden lies with those who know better. That is, unfortunately how it works. So we have to take our lumps now and then, but MUST NOT take the easy road of copying what we do not approve of. On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Khura, When we emulate the examples of those that we decry, then we descend to a lower level ,ourselves. And if we continue on that trend, imagine where our civilizations would ultimately end in? Not at all about critisize. Just I remember, how people of Assam voted for Debojit Saha to win Bharat Kontho. But at the prize ceremony, when anchor was saying Please give claps for the winner Debojit Saha from West Bengal, Debojit did not even utter a word that he is not from West Bengal. Bengalis who live in Assam and call it their home are just as Assamese as you or Bhodai Kalita of Jokai-suk. And they have a right to their cultural heritage just as you or others do. To deny that or take issue with that will never make a better Assam. You all must remember that! One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi or Marwari or so on? -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:59:46 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form D: Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? When we emulate the examples of those that we decry, then we descend to a lower level ,ourselves. And if we continue on that trend, imagine where our civilizations would ultimately end in? Bengalis who live in Assam and call it their home are just as Assamese as you or Bhodai Kalita of Jokai-suk. And they have a right to their cultural heritage just as you or others do. To deny that or take issue with that will never make a better Assam. You all must remember that! k On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Well, the Bengali population (not the Bengali population in Bengal) in Assam must have demanded as such. It is the GOA who said OK. They could have said NO. That's the point I wanted to nab. :-) GOA saying No Bangladeshi, so no Bangladeshi. :-) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:23:50 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Now, that is an entirely different argument from the one you started with. Private companies and private blogs are NOT govt. Well, the Bengali population (not the Bengali population in Bengal) in Assam must have demanded as such. It is the GOA who said OK. They could have said NO. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. Why Assam Govt recognized other state's medium as Govt school Medium? In Barak Valley. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:06:44 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Go and try to start an Assamese school - say in Gujarat, and then let me know if the Govt. of Gujarat shuts it down. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. And Assamnet does not belong to any govt. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Have you ever said yourself as Assamese with Bengali ethnicity? Rest other just was about technical issue of this mailing list. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:28:14 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form You can go and open an Assamese medium school any where in India no one will oppose you , trust me. The question is did you ever try ? There are Tamil and Telugu Medium school in Mumbai, Maharashtra . I personally know about one such school in Matunga area in Mumbai. There are Nepali and Urdu medium school in WB and Nepali and Urdu both are RECOGNIZED medium by Govt. of WB There is Bengali medium school in Bihar. The Assamese community in Mumbai celebrates Bihu every year . Does any Shiv Sena zealot protest -- why Assamese culture in Maharashtra ? The same is true everywhere in India and even abroad. All these are driven by market demand. One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi --- In many occassions C'da has said I am an American Citizen of Assamese ethnicity . Do you take objection to that ? Does the Assameses folks living in Maharashtra, Orissa, Bengal, Bihar forgo Bihu celebration ? Do they say I am Marathi, I am Bihari etc. By your definition, there are very few members in this Assamnet , which you want to protect from other linguistic groups, who are Assamese -- they are Australians, Americans, Europeans, Marathi etc. So your basic argument on protecting Assamnet does not exist anymore. You are mixing two things -- Residency or Domicile and language. Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Sushanta has contributed a lot more in this net then you and from the information I have , he writes in Assamese media too. It is attitude like this which has alieneted the Khasis, Mizos , Nagas and now Bodos. I am not going to reply any of your rant but if you do not want to see a fragmented Assam, I suggest Grow up. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. Why Assam Govt recognized other state's medium as Govt school Medium? In Barak Valley. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:06:44 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Go and try to start an Assamese school - say in Gujarat, and then let me know if the Govt. of Gujarat shuts it down. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. And Assamnet does not belong to any govt. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com
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Sushanta has contributed a lot more in this net then you and from the information I have , he writes in Assamese media too. Then me! Means next to me? :P Now please do not say that I am insulting you or it was typo. It is not Typo as the key E A have noteble gaps in every keyboard. :-) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:28:14 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form You can go and open an Assamese medium school any where in India no one will oppose you , trust me. The question is did you ever try ? There are Tamil and Telugu Medium school in Mumbai, Maharashtra . I personally know about one such school in Matunga area in Mumbai. There are Nepali and Urdu medium school in WB and Nepali and Urdu both are RECOGNIZED medium by Govt. of WB There is Bengali medium school in Bihar. The Assamese community in Mumbai celebrates Bihu every year . Does any Shiv Sena zealot protest -- why Assamese culture in Maharashtra ? The same is true everywhere in India and even abroad. All these are driven by market demand. One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi --- In many occassions C'da has said I am an American Citizen of Assamese ethnicity . Do you take objection to that ? Does the Assameses folks living in Maharashtra, Orissa, Bengal, Bihar forgo Bihu celebration ? Do they say I am Marathi, I am Bihari etc. By your definition, there are very few members in this Assamnet , which you want to protect from other linguistic groups, who are Assamese -- they are Australians, Americans, Europeans, Marathi etc. So your basic argument on protecting Assamnet does not exist anymore. You are mixing two things -- Residency or Domicile and language. Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Sushanta has contributed a lot more in this net then you and from the information I have , he writes in Assamese media too. It is attitude like this which has alieneted the Khasis, Mizos , Nagas and now Bodos. I am not going to reply any of your rant but if you do not want to see a fragmented Assam, I suggest Grow up. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. Why Assam Govt recognized other state's medium as Govt school Medium? In Barak Valley. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:06:44 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Go and try to start an Assamese school - say in Gujarat, and then let me know if the Govt. of Gujarat shuts it down. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. And Assamnet does not belong to any govt. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti
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Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! Do you know about Unicode? The Bangla system sucked the scope of Assamese Unicode. CDAC has done few. Personally I developed one, with Font Embeding Technology too. Try to look about the Unicode font's back end. Then you will understand. You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Is it an offence? I can speak write Bangla Oriya well, not being to either. But do you? Do the maximum, living in Assam? Learning other language is always good, which Bangla people never tried, trying and will not also. They are just ticking into the old man.. Rabindra. I have read lots of Bangla books. How many Bengalis read Assamese book? Do you? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:28:14 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form You can go and open an Assamese medium school any where in India no one will oppose you , trust me. The question is did you ever try ? There are Tamil and Telugu Medium school in Mumbai, Maharashtra . I personally know about one such school in Matunga area in Mumbai. There are Nepali and Urdu medium school in WB and Nepali and Urdu both are RECOGNIZED medium by Govt. of WB There is Bengali medium school in Bihar. The Assamese community in Mumbai celebrates Bihu every year . Does any Shiv Sena zealot protest -- why Assamese culture in Maharashtra ? The same is true everywhere in India and even abroad. All these are driven by market demand. One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi --- In many occassions C'da has said I am an American Citizen of Assamese ethnicity . Do you take objection to that ? Does the Assameses folks living in Maharashtra, Orissa, Bengal, Bihar forgo Bihu celebration ? Do they say I am Marathi, I am Bihari etc. By your definition, there are very few members in this Assamnet , which you want to protect from other linguistic groups, who are Assamese -- they are Australians, Americans, Europeans, Marathi etc. So your basic argument on protecting Assamnet does not exist anymore. You are mixing two things -- Residency or Domicile and language. Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Sushanta has contributed a lot more in this net then you and from the information I have , he writes in Assamese media too. It is attitude like this which has alieneted the Khasis, Mizos , Nagas and now Bodos. I am not going to reply any of your rant but if you do not want to see a fragmented Assam, I suggest Grow up. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. Why Assam Govt recognized other state's medium as Govt school Medium? In Barak Valley. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:06:44 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Go and try to start an Assamese school - say in Gujarat, and then let me know if the Govt. of Gujarat shuts it down. Now, if you demand an Assamese school in Gujarat and want the Guj. Govt. to pay for it, they may say no. And Assamnet does not belong to any govt. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Where there was or is Assamese medium school other states beyond Assam, in India? Kindly let me know. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:54:27 -0500 From: assamrs at gmail.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form All states within India allow any private language school to operate, including foreign languages. At least that was the way it was when I was there. Assamnet is run by a few individuals and started many years ago. It is really upto the administrators what material should or should not be allowed. Generally, the Assamnet's focus is Assam centric. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West
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Dear Susanta Kar, Actually I was kidding about your signature i.e. Are you advertisiing. But some people have driven it to other way of controversy. Simply I was kidding. Don't take otherwise. I do not have any hatred about any language, any religion, any nation, except USA(for their notorious politics). -Dhruba Jyoti Deka From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:15:14 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Dhrubajyoti, I can't understand where from two words 'West Bengal' and 'School' come here. It's my email ID . I have some signature written in Bengali. Bengali is not only language of West Bengal. Neither I'm a citizen of WB. So, I'm not answerable to what that state would have done. If that state doesn't allow any other languages to operate then it would not be ideal state to me. I'd love to hate that state. I know , in today's India every state and its' people are try to kill the true India Social spirit, Unity in Diversity'. WB is not exception . But here these are off topic references. As far my knowledge goes Google has no problem with my mother tongue. Now, Come to my point. I didn't posted any topic in Bengali, rather like most of friends here, I also prefer to post in a foreign language English here. So, what is written as my signature is my personal matter. It goes with my every mail, every where. Had it been Assamesenet, possibly I would have think twice to subscribe to this group or to write in a language other then Assamese. But, it's Assamnet. Forget about me, I'm writing from Tinsukia. But, what if anyone be member from Barak valley and choose to write in Bengali? Will you not allow him. Constitutionally, Bengali is Regional state language there. Will you not allow anyone to write in Bodo here? Bodo is constitutionally state language of BTAD , my friend. You can stick to your point. You have every right . But, then will you choose to propose me to open up a group call ' Bengalis of Assamnet' for Bengalis only? Do , you think it would be good for social fabric of the state? Anyway, I was just joking with you. You take my signature positively. You will find that I've all the well wishes for Assamese language and culture. And most of my works are Assamese Centric. Most of Assamnet friends know by this time. My, signatures are not only personal publicity. It also propagate the massage that one can write in his mother tongue here on net (not only Assamnet) . To my experiences it help many Assamese friends to feel motivated and try Assamese on net. And by this time I feel proud to say that a good number of friends here on Assam net feel free to talk with me on the topic how can Assamese contents be increased on net. I thing , friends will write the rest. Sushanta Kar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Do West Bengal allows Assamese medium in Schools? Do Bihar? Do UP? Do Rajasthan? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form 'Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-)' Yes, you are right it is Assamnet. As I understand it's niether Banglanet nor Assamesenet! It's India My dear ! Sushanta 2010/8/18 Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http
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Just to help you -- http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/available/bengali/ http://www.ratneresearch.com/ No need to help me in that regard. No. But yout took an offence when Sushanta's post include a couple of Bangla font ! What a logic ! Tell me one thing, if somebody(non-Assamese) say us Assamese, we feel proud. Why do the Bihari Bengali get irritated for the same? Got the logic now? -- Then how come Sushanta writes in Prantik ? Try to explain and you will know your arguments are hollow. May be some magic, as Bret Lee also use to write articles in Assam Tribune. :-) Now the point, for seriouse one, how Udit Narayan sang Assamese song? How Lata Mangeshkar sang? Do they too knew Assamese? :P -- Rabindra Nath Tagore was a great poet. His works have been translated in many different languages. One life is not enough to digest even a section of his works. Even Boston public library has works of Rabindranath. He is far above comments of one Mr Dhruba Jyoti Deka . That merely demonstrates your cheap mentality. Yes he was. No offence for it. As he is far above from comments of one Mr Dhruba Jyoti Deka, he is far above from madness, proudness praise of one Mr Krishnendu Chakravarty too. I doubt you have read ANY decent book. Just few minutes before I was reading Desh. Sorry to get to know from you that Desh is -un-decent. I will stop from now on. I thought Prothom Protishruti was also decent. What a stupid I was. :P Yes I do. And I have written articles in Assamese magazines. I asked, how many do you read. But you said you write. Now say, what is logic, and where is logic. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:24:22 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! Do you know about Unicode? The Bangla system sucked the scope of Assamese Unicode. CDAC has done few. Personally I developed one, with Font Embeding Technology too. Try to look about the Unicode font's back end. Then you will understand. Just to help you -- http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/available/bengali/ http://www.ratneresearch.com/ You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Is it an offence? No. But yout took an offence when Sushanta's post include a couple of Bangla font ! What a logic ! I can speak write Bangla Oriya well, not being to either. But do you? Not Oriya but yes, Assamese and Hindi. Do the maximum, living in Assam? Those who are in Brahpaputra valley --- yes. Those in Barak - No, just the way Gorkhas in Darjeeling district of WB do not know Bengali. There are many Bodo in Bodo dominated areas who do not speak Assamese. Again , it is driven my market force --- the need. Learning other language is always good, which Bangla people never tried, trying and will not also. -- Then how come Sushanta writes in Prantik ? Try to explain and you will know your arguments are hollow. They are just ticking into the old man.. Rabindra. -- Rabindra Nath Tagore was a great poet. His works have been translated in many different languages. One life is not enough to digest even a section of his works. Even Boston public library has works of Rabindranath. He is far above comments of one Mr Dhruba Jyoti Deka . That merely demonstrates your cheap mentality. I have read lots of Bangla books. I doubt you have read ANY decent book. How many Bengalis read Assamese book? Do you? Yes I do. And I have written articles in Assamese magazines. My aunt has translated Assamese novel to Bengali. And we do not pass any comment against Lakshminath Bezbarua or JyotiPrasad or contemporary writers like Home Borgohain or Hiren Gohain. You have anything more to say ? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:28:14 -0700 From: krish_gau at yahoo.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form You can go and open an Assamese medium school any where in India no one will oppose you , trust me. The question is did you ever try ? There are Tamil and Telugu Medium school in Mumbai, Maharashtra . I personally know about one such school in Matunga area in Mumbai. There are Nepali and Urdu medium school in WB and Nepali and Urdu both are RECOGNIZED medium by Govt. of WB There is Bengali medium school in Bihar. The Assamese community in Mumbai celebrates Bihu every year . Does any Shiv Sena zealot protest -- why Assamese culture in Maharashtra ? The same is true everywhere in India and even abroad. All these are driven by market demand. One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives
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You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Publish! OMG!! Which one? If you are saying about www.timesofassam.com , then it is News Portal, not newspaper. Yes it is in english. So that the content can be read by all people beyond the limit of Assamese language understanding. Grow up. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:24:22 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! Do you know about Unicode? The Bangla system sucked the scope of Assamese Unicode. CDAC has done few. Personally I developed one, with Font Embeding Technology too. Try to look about the Unicode font's back end. Then you will understand. Just to help you -- http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/available/bengali/ http://www.ratneresearch.com/ You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Is it an offence? No. But yout took an offence when Sushanta's post include a couple of Bangla font ! What a logic ! I can speak write Bangla Oriya well, not being to either. But do you? Not Oriya but yes, Assamese and Hindi. Do the maximum, living in Assam? Those who are in Brahpaputra valley --- yes. Those in Barak - No, just the way Gorkhas in Darjeeling district of WB do not know Bengali. There are many Bodo in Bodo dominated areas who do not speak Assamese. Again , it is driven my market force --- the need. Learning other language is always good, which Bangla people never tried, trying and will not also. -- Then how come Sushanta writes in Prantik ? Try to explain and you will know your arguments are hollow. They are just ticking into the old man.. Rabindra. -- Rabindra Nath Tagore was a great poet. His works have been translated in many different languages. One life is not enough to digest even a section of his works. Even Boston public library has works of Rabindranath. He is far above comments of one Mr Dhruba Jyoti Deka . That merely demonstrates your cheap mentality. I have read lots of Bangla books. I doubt you have read ANY decent book. How many Bengalis read Assamese book? Do you? Yes I do. And I have written articles in Assamese magazines. My aunt has translated Assamese novel to Bengali. And we do not pass any comment against Lakshminath Bezbarua or JyotiPrasad or contemporary writers like Home Borgohain or Hiren Gohain. You have anything more to say ? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:28:14 -0700 From: krish_gau at yahoo.com To: assam at assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form You can go and open an Assamese medium school any where in India no one will oppose you , trust me. The question is did you ever try ? There are Tamil and Telugu Medium school in Mumbai, Maharashtra . I personally know about one such school in Matunga area in Mumbai. There are Nepali and Urdu medium school in WB and Nepali and Urdu both are RECOGNIZED medium by Govt. of WB There is Bengali medium school in Bihar. The Assamese community in Mumbai celebrates Bihu every year . Does any Shiv Sena zealot protest -- why Assamese culture in Maharashtra ? The same is true everywhere in India and even abroad. All these are driven by market demand. One who lives in Bengal is Bengali, one who lives in Bihar is Bihari, one who lives in Orissa is Oriya, one who lives is Tamilnadu is Tamil, one who lives in Punjab is Punjabi, then why the one who lives in Assam is still bengali or Bihari or Punjabi --- In many occassions C'da has said I am an American Citizen of Assamese ethnicity . Do you take objection to that ? Does the Assameses folks living in Maharashtra, Orissa, Bengal, Bihar forgo Bihu celebration ? Do they say I am Marathi, I am Bihari etc. By your definition, there are very few members in this Assamnet , which you want to protect from other linguistic groups, who are Assamese -- they are Australians, Americans, Europeans, Marathi etc. So your basic argument on protecting Assamnet does not exist anymore. You are mixing two things -- Residency or Domicile and language. Coming to your original rant , If you are so concerned with Bangla font in Assamnet, why are you writing in English .. in Roman font ? How strange ! You are even publishing a news paper in English ! Sushanta has contributed a lot more in this net then you and from the information I have , he writes in Assamese media too. It is attitude like this which has alieneted the Khasis, Mizos , Nagas and now Bodos. I am not going to reply any of your rant but if you do not want to see a fragmented Assam, I suggest Grow up
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I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character limitation. Now, Mr Sushanta, you a* deserve only hatred. And what the hell is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write is another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter bangladeshi. From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Krishnendu and others 'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in arms to discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. That's why very few Bengali come and join here. Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate Bengali. There is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali here in Assam and Elsewhere who also hate Assamese and never talk anything positive about them. I have bad experiences with them either. The point is, dose Dhruba Deka and people like him want that those people living in Assam and speak languages other then Assamese should create separate group and talk all the rubbish like Dhrubajyoti against Assamese. Will it be a healthy practice? As far my knowledge goes, in University level Assamese was first introduced in Kolkata University. After creation of GU and DU Assamese department there ceased to exist only because dearth of Student. Saying thus, I don't want to certify West Bengal as as ideal state of the country. I don't need to. Because that was/ is not my state. Rather , Personally I think , it's a disease which was imported from modern Europe and has infected whole the country and all the states.( I'm talking about the very concept of 'Nation State and nation Building'.) Every one is here busy with creating their own nation. And so, no where in India minority linguistic groups enjoys the equal status and honor. Most of the linguistic group has no state to claim their own. That's why Rajbonshis are fighting against both Assam and Bengal government for recognition of their mother tongues. Ask them , they will say if the government and Middle Class Bengali and Assamese has any different attitude towards them. To my knowledge, No. No one want them to secede from the Majority language! If they are Bengali, then WB Bengali should have been fight for their right in Assam. If they are Assamese ,Assamese should have been fight for their right in Bengal. But, who bother? Rather friends like Dhruba Jyoti Deka prefer to behave same way in thier own state. This was he will forget those Assamese who lives elsewhere, specially in WB and Bangladesh. His Bengali counterpart will exclude those Bengali who live out side the Border of WB. Dhrubajyoti may consider Bengali as Migrant in Assam, I'm not. He just forgot that present Assam is a Conglomeration of different region and part of provinces of British India. A Part of Bengal also transferred to Assam. He has referred to Bengali of Cachar, who thinks Cachar is not part of Assam and they use the word Assam for Brahmaputra valley . He hate Bengali so he referred Bengali only . We often hear Whenever an Assamese talk about Assam he means Brahmaputra Vally. Only the other day AGP MPs raise question in Parliament about the big river dam in Assam. They talked about Dams in Arunachal Pradeh. didn't uttered a word about Tipaimukh Dam. Being a college teacher I often hear my college say Assam has only three University, GU, DU and TU . They just forget that there is another University call Assam university at Silchar. I'm not citing these example to finds faults . I'd just request you all to find the reason behind such people's psycho. Whole India is infected with such problems and very few want it to be treated positively. I know a good number of Barak Velley People are waiting eagerly for separation of NC Hills and Karbi Anglong from Assam, so that they get it without any blood loss. That will be another Bengali lead province that way. People like Dhruba Jyoti are only working for that dream comes true! That's why , I don't consider post colonial India is an ideal country to be happy with. Each and Every minority here lives with a guilty feeling . As if he
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Khura, ok. I keep quite. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:22:48 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dhruba: Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't care who. I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things straight, silence is not a virtue. cm On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character limitation. Now, Mr Sushanta, you a* deserve only hatred. And what the hell is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write is another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter bangladeshi. From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Krishnendu and others 'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in arms to discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. That's why very few Bengali come and join here. Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate Bengali. There is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali here in Assam and Elsewhere who also hate Assamese and never talk anything positive about them. I have bad experiences with them either. The point is, dose Dhruba Deka and people like him want that those people living in Assam and speak languages other then Assamese should create separate group and talk all the rubbish like Dhrubajyoti against Assamese. Will it be a healthy practice? As far my knowledge goes, in University level Assamese was first introduced in Kolkata University. After creation of GU and DU Assamese department there ceased to exist only because dearth of Student. Saying thus, I don't want to certify West Bengal as as ideal state of the country. I don't need to. Because that was/ is not my state. Rather , Personally I think , it's a disease which was imported from modern Europe and has infected whole the country and all the states.( I'm talking about the very concept of 'Nation State and nation Building'.) Every one is here busy with creating their own nation. And so, no where in India minority linguistic groups enjoys the equal status and honor. Most of the linguistic group has no state to claim their own. That's why Rajbonshis are fighting against both Assam and Bengal government for recognition of their mother tongues. Ask them , they will say if the government and Middle Class Bengali and Assamese has any different attitude towards them. To my knowledge, No. No one want them to secede from the Majority language! If they are Bengali, then WB Bengali should have been fight for their right in Assam. If they are Assamese ,Assamese should have been fight for their right in Bengal. But, who bother? Rather friends like Dhruba Jyoti Deka prefer to behave same way in thier own state. This was he will forget those Assamese who lives elsewhere, specially in WB and Bangladesh. His Bengali counterpart will exclude those Bengali who live out side the Border of WB. Dhrubajyoti may consider Bengali as Migrant in Assam, I'm not. He just forgot that present Assam is a Conglomeration of different region and part of provinces of British India. A Part of Bengal also transferred to Assam. He has referred to Bengali of Cachar, who thinks Cachar is not part of Assam and they use the word Assam for Brahmaputra valley . He hate Bengali so he referred Bengali only . We often hear Whenever an Assamese talk about Assam he means Brahmaputra Vally. Only the other day AGP MPs raise question
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Khura, ok. I will continue again. But trough mobile, i am getting tough to ellaborate with quoting out their points. I will continue when power break comes off. Surely, wont let them go. :-) From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:40:20 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form ok. I keep quite. That is NOT the point Dhruba. We don't want you or anyone else to be silenced. On the contrary do say your piece. But when you do, it should not be for spewing hatred and animus, which has only ONE result, continuing division of Assam's society. If you disagree, go ahead, disagree. But explain why, try to persuade, use ordinary logic, remain civil. Ours is not place to express hatred or animus. I am certain creating divisions in Assam society is NOT your goal. So , don't forget WHY you are here. Finally, also remember, when we shout in anger, we ALWAYS lose! On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: Khura, ok. I keep quite. -Dhruba From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:22:48 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dhruba: Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't care who. I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things straight, silence is not a virtue. cm On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character limitation. Now, Mr Sushanta, you a* deserve only hatred. And what the hell is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write is another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter bangladeshi. From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Krishnendu and others 'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in arms to discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. That's why very few Bengali come and join here. Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate Bengali. There is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali here in Assam and Elsewhere who also hate Assamese and never talk anything positive about them. I have bad experiences with them either. The point is, dose Dhruba Deka and people like him want that those people living in Assam and speak languages other then Assamese should create separate group and talk all the rubbish like Dhrubajyoti against Assamese. Will it be a healthy practice? As far my knowledge goes, in University level Assamese was first introduced in Kolkata University. After creation of GU and DU Assamese department there ceased to exist only because dearth of Student. Saying thus, I don't want to certify West Bengal as as ideal state of the country. I don't need to. Because that was/ is not my state. Rather , Personally I think , it's a disease which was imported from modern Europe and has infected whole the country and all the states.( I'm talking about the very concept of 'Nation State and nation Building'.) Every one is here busy with creating their own nation. And so, no where in India minority linguistic groups enjoys the equal status and honor. Most of the linguistic group has no state to claim their own. That's why Rajbonshis are fighting against both Assam and Bengal government for recognition of their mother tongues. Ask them , they will say if the government and Middle Class Bengali and Assamese has any different attitude towards them. To my knowledge
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Sorry for that. But i have seen usage of such slang recently by 2 senior fellow here. From: absarangap...@hotmail.com To: cmaha...@gmail.com; assam@assamnet.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:39:15 + Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form That's what I was going to say. Can we or should we bear with this type of behavior here in Assam Net? I can't believe in today's world this type of mentality is still there. I thought it was a passe`. -ABS Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:22:48 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dhruba: Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't care who. I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things straight, silence is not a virtue. cm On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character limitation. Now, Mr Sushanta, you a* deserve only hatred. And what the hell is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write is another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter bangladeshi. From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Krishnendu and others 'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in arms to discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. That's why very few Bengali come and join here. Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate Bengali. There is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali here in Assam and Elsewhere who also hate Assamese and never talk anything positive about them. I have bad experiences with them either. The point is, dose Dhruba Deka and people like him want that those people living in Assam and speak languages other then Assamese should create separate group and talk all the rubbish like Dhrubajyoti against Assamese. Will it be a healthy practice? As far my knowledge goes, in University level Assamese was first introduced in Kolkata University. After creation of GU and DU Assamese department there ceased to exist only because dearth of Student. Saying thus, I don't want to certify West Bengal as as ideal state of the country. I don't need to. Because that was/ is not my state. Rather , Personally I think , it's a disease which was imported from modern Europe and has infected whole the country and all the states.( I'm talking about the very concept of 'Nation State and nation Building'.) Every one is here busy with creating their own nation. And so, no where in India minority linguistic groups enjoys the equal status and honor. Most of the linguistic group has no state to claim their own. That's why Rajbonshis are fighting against both Assam and Bengal government for recognition of their mother tongues. Ask them , they will say if the government and Middle Class Bengali and Assamese has any different attitude towards them. To my knowledge, No. No one want them to secede from the Majority language! If they are Bengali, then WB Bengali should have been fight for their right in Assam. If they are Assamese ,Assamese should have been fight for their right in Bengal. But, who bother? Rather friends like Dhruba Jyoti Deka prefer to behave same way in thier own state. This was he will forget those Assamese who lives elsewhere, specially in WB and Bangladesh. His Bengali counterpart will exclude those Bengali who live out side
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Are you threatening me? By showing CC, Moderator at top? Nothing to response your meaningless sentances. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:32:23 -0700 From: ankur_bora2...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Cc : Moderator , Assam Net Dhruba Jyoti , You mentioned in your earlier posting that you were kidding about the topic. Your subsequent postings are quite contrary to that. Are you kidding or are ‘you serious ? If you are serious, have you noticed the list of websites below the signature of Sushanta. Have you gone through the online link of “Pragyan”? Pragyan is a fruition of painstaking work of Sushanta and teachers of Tinsukia college. Pragyan has guided thousands of studenst of Tinsukia and that region in career planning , higher study , creativity and leadership. There are valuable articles published in the Assamese section of Pragyan related to Assamese language , culture and history. In the story of blind men and the elephant , each man described the animal based on the part that they could feel i.e. the foreleg , the tail and the trunk. Each one insisted that he alone was correct. Of course, there was no conclusion for not one had thoroughly examined the whole elephant. Their observation was limited to parts of the body, they could not realize the magnificence and the splendor of the majestic creature. Would you continue to focus only on the “signature dots” or will you open yourself to the total of the parts ? I am not kidding here , seriously. Ankur Bora --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 1:55 PM Sorry for that. But i have seen usage of such slang recently by 2 senior fellow here. From: absarangap...@hotmail.com To: cmaha...@gmail.com; assam@assamnet.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:39:15 + Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form That's what I was going to say. Can we or should we bear with this type of behavior here in Assam Net? I can't believe in today's world this type of mentality is still there. I thought it was a passe`. -ABS Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:22:48 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dhruba: Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't care who. I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things straight, silence is not a virtue. cm On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure. That is why I will not be able to go point to point or detailed because of character limitation. Now, Mr Sushanta, you a* deserve only hatred. And what the hell is PRANTIK? Do not say what it was. Say what it is. This time I would like to express that I hate Bengali people. Because nuisance always want that other should read and learn bangla, but never u nuisance read and learn other language's literature. You do write is another thing, that may be done by dictation and writing by other. Final saying, it is assamnet, not your banglanet. It is all about Assam, not about your bangla and Rabindranath, who licked toes of british for prizes, while other were getting killed fighting against british. You people are the snake of hidden corner, for whom, bangladeshis are getting ease to settle in Assam. You people helping them, so that one day bangla becomes the majority language of assam. Bloody backbitter bangladeshi. From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:47:16 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dear Krishnendu and others 'I have always found a handful chauvinist like you who are up in arms to discourage people like me or Sushanta.' said Krishnendu. That's why very few Bengali come and join here. Dhrubojyoty started all these arguments only because he hate Bengali. There is no use of argue with him. I'm not going to. I can only state that there are thousands of Bengali
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--- Who got irritated ? I have friends from Bengal Bihar but never saw them getting irritated. That must be your imagination ! You got irritated. When I asked Mr Kar, whether he is advertising, why you jumped here, if you are not irritated??? Sentiment-t lagi gol na? One cannot write , that too in a magazine like Prantik, without knowing the language. You yourself answered against your point, by your point- --- Bret Lee writes in Assamese language ! Never knew . Oh ! Assam Tribune is an English newspaper . So why would Bret Lee, whose native is English, have any problem writing in English. Some argument , I must say ! And FYI , in many cases, such syndicated columns are written by others based on dictation by the person concerned. -- I know you just through what you post. Your posts does not reflect a mentality of a matured person. If you have indeed read decent books , you do not appear to be able to understand those. That is not my answer. I told- Just few minutes before I was reading Desh. Sorry to get to know from you that Desh is -un-decent. I will stop from now on. I thought Prothom Protishruti was also decent. What a stupid I was. :P Ashapurna Devi would have been ashamed had she seen such comments (old man.. Rabindra.) from someone who claims to have read Prothom Pratishruti What a worst joke of this world. Grow up. All writer write only, so that people read it, regardless who read and who learns what from it. I must give you an example. I wrote it few days before, but you were dumbo that time. Again I am writing, Bhupen Hazarika sang in an album named Udito Suruj, which was sponsored by ULFA for publicity of ULFA. Now if Bhupen Hazarika says, I only sang, I did not tell anybody to join ULFA, then what worst may be there than this??? Grow up to catch logic. -- You asked me How many Bengalis read Assamese book? Do you? And I said Yes I Do. That I have written is an additional piece of information . I asked do you read. You answered only yes. I did not asked do you write or not. You added it for your publicity. If you still cannot understand the logic, God save Assam from such wannabe journalists :) Wannabe! Hello Mr, I am not wannabe. Such one tried to mess up, but failed to show his guts. Now you want to mess up?? Did I questioned about your profession?? Have some common sense. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:30:13 -0700 From: krish_...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Tell me one thing, if somebody(non-Assamese) say us Assamese, we feel proud. Why do the Bihari Bengali get irritated for the same? Got the logic now? --- Who got irritated ? I have friends from Bengal Bihar but never saw them getting irritated. That must be your imagination ! May be some magic, as Bret Lee also use to write articles in Assam Tribune. :-) --- Bret Lee writes in Assamese language ! Never knew . Oh ! Assam Tribune is an English newspaper . So why would Bret Lee, whose native is English, have any problem writing in English. Some argument , I must say ! And FYI , in many cases, such syndicated columns are written by others based on dictation by the person concerned. Now the point, for seriouse one, how Udit Narayan sang Assamese song? How Lata Mangeshkar sang? Do they too knew Assamese? :P -- A very disingenious argument. When they sing, they use scripts written in Hindi/English/Marathi. There is not need to know the language. For example, if you write Oriya using English script, I can read it out even though I do not know Oriya. there might be some accent issue though. However, I will not be able to write a word in Oriya. One cannot write , that too in a magazine like Prantik, without knowing the language. As he is far above from comments of one Mr Dhruba Jyoti Deka, he is far above from madness, proudness praise of one Mr Krishnendu Chakravarty too. -- Perfect. But I never expressed any madness etc. Just few minutes before I was reading Desh. Sorry to get to know from you that Desh is -un-decent. I will stop from now on. I thought Prothom Protishruti was also decent. What a stupid I was. :P -- I know you just through what you post. Your posts does not reflect a mentality of a matured person. If you have indeed read decent books , you do not appear to be able to understand those. Ashapurna Devi would have been ashamed had she seen such comments (old man.. Rabindra.) from someone who claims to have read Prothom Pratishruti Yes I do. And I have written articles in Assamese magazines. I asked, how many do you read. But you said you write. Now say, what is logic, and where is logic. -- You asked me How many Bengalis read Assamese book? Do you? And I said Yes I Do. That I have written is an additional
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Heck... Here it is going towards the prime issue, crossing through historical reality. Let's unfold the reality begining from the history. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:28:41 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form To all Netters save moderator, Lest I be misunderstood,let me be explicit here by saying that I am not ,by any reckoning,trying to defend Dhrubojyoti Deka for allegedly using unpolished and unrefined words ( I don't know if he did) in this Net. However,it reminds me of Voltaire, who once suggested that he would disagree with his opponent, but would defend to the death the opponent's right to have an opinion. We simply cannot force him to self-censor.That will be a naughty, naughty idea. I was born in Tinsukia and spent quiet a few years of my life there.I know how it feels like to be an Assamese in that milieu--a town where we were the only Assamese ( in the main town).I also spent a few years in Silchar and I had a providential escape one night during the peak of Assam Movement.Those pontificating goody two shoes will never be able to convince me about certain things which will remain indelibly branded in my memory .I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. FINALLY,PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH SIDES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES. Kamaljit Deka On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you threatening me? By showing CC, Moderator at top? Nothing to response your meaningless sentances. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:32:23 -0700 From: ankur_bora2...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Cc : Moderator , Assam Net Dhruba Jyoti , You mentioned in your earlier posting that you were kidding about the topic. Your subsequent postings are quite contrary to that. Are you kidding or are ‘you serious ? If you are serious, have you noticed the list of websites below the signature of Sushanta. Have you gone through the online link of “Pragyan”? Pragyan is a fruition of painstaking work of Sushanta and teachers of Tinsukia college. Pragyan has guided thousands of studenst of Tinsukia and that region in career planning , higher study , creativity and leadership. There are valuable articles published in the Assamese section of Pragyan related to Assamese language , culture and history. In the story of blind men and the elephant , each man described the animal based on the part that they could feel i.e. the foreleg , the tail and the trunk. Each one insisted that he alone was correct. Of course, there was no conclusion for not one had thoroughly examined the whole elephant. Their observation was limited to parts of the body, they could not realize the magnificence and the splendor of the majestic creature. Would you continue to focus only on the “signature dots” or will you open yourself to the total of the parts ? I am not kidding here , seriously. Ankur Bora --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 1:55 PM Sorry for that. But i have seen usage of such slang recently by 2 senior fellow here. From: absarangap...@hotmail.com To: cmaha...@gmail.com; assam@assamnet.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:39:15 + Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form That's what I was going to say. Can we or should we bear with this type of behavior here in Assam Net? I can't believe in today's world this type of mentality is still there. I thought it was a passe`. -ABS Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:22:48 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Dhruba: Those are extremely intemperate words and have no place in a forum like assamnet. I don't know how much you know about this forum, but I have been in this net for a very long time, over 12 t years. There have been instances like this before, but most of us nipped those in the bud. Please do NOT ever again use such vitriol against anybody, I don't care who. I can assure you, most of us ion this forum will share my view. And I invite everyone , who wish to, stand up and be counted on WHAT is right! Remember, when we lose our voices when it is important to set things straight, silence is not a virtue. cm On Aug 19, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: I am mailing from mobile, due to power failure
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES.That's exactly what I said. Kamal. Exactly correct Sir. I do agree. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:25:11 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES.That's exactly what I said. Kamal. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Sushanta Kar pragyan.ts...@gmail.com wrote: *I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. * Correct words Kamal! That's why I don't prescribe those ideas that Chauvinism here is only Assamese Specific. That's why I wrote , it's a British and post British Indian disease. It's Bengali, whom parochialism is nonparallel to any other Indian. It's Bengali, who started imitating the very British concept of Nation State Building in India. And the result is Division of Bengal. Rest are on you. You are intelligent enough to get the points. No truth can be erased. You need not to. Dhruba Jyoti, and possibly you too, can't imagine that even I'm concerned about the future of Assam and Assamese, where Bengali may turned into majority. Dhruba Jyoti is right, a good section of Bengali elite are waiting for the day silently. And If all the immigrant muslim write their mother tongue as Bengali in next census the day is not far . But, my point is can hatred solve the problem? One hate you, so you hate him in return. Where is the end? We had our own mechanism of unity and assimilation in Pre-British India and Assam. No one was concerned about who is Bengali and Assamese then. Most of the people doesn't knew the meaning of such words. What we can do is, We can invent those age old mechanism, edit the present truth and re-write the history. It doesn't matter , if any Assamese like Dhruba Jyoti hate me or not, Assam was/ is My Land. I'm one of those minority Democrat ( Be they Assamese or Bengali or whatever else) do believe from my heart that it's Assam and NE India will teach India how to re-invent and practice true spirit of India Unity in Diversity', Teach India how to respect and accept the 'OTHERS' and live in with peace and tranquility. Sushanta Kar On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kamal deka kjit.d...@gmail.com wrote: To all Netters save moderator, Lest I be misunderstood,let me be explicit here by saying that I am not ,by any reckoning,trying to defend Dhrubojyoti Deka for allegedly using unpolished and unrefined words ( I don't know if he did) in this Net. However,it reminds me of Voltaire, who once suggested that he would disagree with his opponent, but would defend to the death the opponent's right to have an opinion. We simply cannot force him to self-censor.That will be a naughty, naughty idea. I was born in Tinsukia and spent quiet a few years of my life there.I know how it feels like to be an Assamese in that milieu--a town where we were the only Assamese ( in the main town).I also spent a few years in Silchar and I had a providential escape one night during the peak of Assam Movement.Those pontificating goody two shoes will never be able to convince me about certain things which will remain indelibly branded in my memory .I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. FINALLY,PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH SIDES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES. Kamaljit Deka On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you threatening me? By showing CC, Moderator at top? Nothing to response your meaningless sentances. Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:32:23 -0700 From: ankur_bora2...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Cc : Moderator , Assam Net Dhruba Jyoti , You mentioned in your earlier posting that you were kidding about the topic. Your subsequent postings are quite contrary to that. Are you kidding or are ‘you serious ? If you are serious, have you noticed the list of websites below the signature of Sushanta. Have you gone through the online link of “Pragyan”? Pragyan is a fruition of painstaking work of Sushanta and teachers of Tinsukia college. Pragyan has guided thousands of studenst of Tinsukia and that region in career planning , higher study , creativity and leadership. There are valuable articles published in the Assamese section of Pragyan related to Assamese language , culture and history. In the story of blind men and the elephant , each man described the animal based on the part that they could feel i.e. the foreleg , the tail and the trunk. Each one insisted that he alone was correct. Of course, there was no conclusion for not one had thoroughly examined
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Rest are on you. You are intelligent enough to get the points. No truth can be erased. You need not to. Dhruba Jyoti, and possibly you too, can't imagine that even I'm concerned about the future of Assam and Assamese, where Bengali may turned into majority. Dhruba Jyoti is right, a good section of Bengali elite are waiting for the day silently. And If all the immigrant muslim write their mother tongue as Bengali in next census the day is not far . Sir, That is what I was trying to bring out. You agree what I suspect. So, if we all love Assam, why we cant try to keep away some ethnicity which is really needed to build or keep Assam united? See today every ethnic groups, even surname based also, rising with demand for their xx land. I use to argue with those all. Evene somebody are rising about Kalita land too. And I do aruge act against them too, being my surname is too from that clan. I belive in one identity i.e. Assamese. It doesn't matter , if any Assamese like Dhruba Jyoti hate me or not, Assam was/ is My Land. I'm one of those minority Democrat ( Be they Assamese or Bengali or whatever else) do believe from my heart that it's Assam and NE No, I do not hate any religion, cast, language ethnicity. For your kind information, my most favourite(the only, whom I respect as teacher) is Bengali, and his name is Suvasys Banik, originally from Tezpur(now I dont know from where his past people came. :P). If I hate Bengali, then how come I love my teacher? If I hate Bengali, how come I use to read Bengali litarature. Why you people don't try to understand that? From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:49:27 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form *I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. * Correct words Kamal! That's why I don't prescribe those ideas that Chauvinism here is only Assamese Specific. That's why I wrote , it's a British and post British Indian disease. It's Bengali, whom parochialism is nonparallel to any other Indian. It's Bengali, who started imitating the very British concept of Nation State Building in India. And the result is Division of Bengal. Rest are on you. You are intelligent enough to get the points. No truth can be erased. You need not to. Dhruba Jyoti, and possibly you too, can't imagine that even I'm concerned about the future of Assam and Assamese, where Bengali may turned into majority. Dhruba Jyoti is right, a good section of Bengali elite are waiting for the day silently. And If all the immigrant muslim write their mother tongue as Bengali in next census the day is not far . But, my point is can hatred solve the problem? One hate you, so you hate him in return. Where is the end? We had our own mechanism of unity and assimilation in Pre-British India and Assam. No one was concerned about who is Bengali and Assamese then. Most of the people doesn't knew the meaning of such words. What we can do is, We can invent those age old mechanism, edit the present truth and re-write the history. It doesn't matter , if any Assamese like Dhruba Jyoti hate me or not, Assam was/ is My Land. I'm one of those minority Democrat ( Be they Assamese or Bengali or whatever else) do believe from my heart that it's Assam and NE India will teach India how to re-invent and practice true spirit of India Unity in Diversity', Teach India how to respect and accept the 'OTHERS' and live in with peace and tranquility. Sushanta Kar On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:58 AM, kamal deka kjit.d...@gmail.com wrote: To all Netters save moderator, Lest I be misunderstood,let me be explicit here by saying that I am not ,by any reckoning,trying to defend Dhrubojyoti Deka for allegedly using unpolished and unrefined words ( I don't know if he did) in this Net. However,it reminds me of Voltaire, who once suggested that he would disagree with his opponent, but would defend to the death the opponent's right to have an opinion. We simply cannot force him to self-censor.That will be a naughty, naughty idea. I was born in Tinsukia and spent quiet a few years of my life there.I know how it feels like to be an Assamese in that milieu--a town where we were the only Assamese ( in the main town).I also spent a few years in Silchar and I had a providential escape one night during the peak of Assam Movement.Those pontificating goody two shoes will never be able to convince me about certain things which will remain indelibly branded in my memory .I had sensed ' hate' in others really well.There are certain truths in this world that cannot be erased. FINALLY,PACIFISM WORKS ONLY IF BOTH SIDES AGREE TO PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES. Kamaljit Deka On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Are you threatening me? By showing CC, Moderator at top
Re: [Assam] China to Attack India: Perfect Sensational (Yellow?) Journalism
This time Nehru is not here. But Sonia is here. Who will say - My heart goes with people of Assam? :-) From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 08:38:44 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] China to Attack India: Perfect Sensational (Yellow?) Journalism Oh my gosh! At this rate, we shall forever remain kharkhowas and markhowas :-). On Aug 18, 2010, at 2:14 AM, priyankan goswami wrote: Dear All, Although the news of a possible Chinese Threat to India is accepted by both Pentagon and Indian Defence Sources, here I am trying to highlight something else. The headlines in today's *Asomiya Pratidin* is That China will Attack India in 2012. Even in NE Tv, they are now showing the story again and again!! -- Links in Pratidin: http://anax1b.pressmart.net/asomiya/AS/AS/2010/08/18/ArticleHtmls/18_08_2010_001_009.shtml?Mode=0 http://anax1b.pressmart.net/asomiya/AS/AS/2010/08/18/ArticleHtmls/18_08_2010_010_004.shtml?Mode=0 --- Now Check out the following Blog in *Sify.com *by Bharat Verma (Editor, Indian Defence Review) published on 2009-07-12 *A Year Earlier * http://sify.com/news/nervous-china-may-attack-india-by-2012-news-features-jhmqlGgeaia.html *Yes, you will surprised to see that both stories are almost exactly the same. A matter of Plain Translation. * Does our Journalists in Assam (not all) lack basic orginiality and concept that they have to translate an entire English blog into Assamese and convert it into sensational HEADLINES!!! Such a Shame! --- Regards Priyankan ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] China to Attack India: Perfect Sensational (Yellow?) Journalism
Mr Priyankan, It is not copy paste at all. It is writing the dictation. USA always say like this. They say Pakistan will attack, but no war yet happened. They say China will attack, but yet not(forget about 1962, USA were dumbo that time). But look at USA and their Pantagon, they can't say or predict who, when, where how will attack them. :-) This is diplomatic policy of USA. They don't want remain parts of the world should get united or remain peacful. USA always want that the third world countries remain busy with buying weapons, neglecting the importance for their citizen's interest, regardless the necessity of those weapon. By this way, third world countries will always remain third worldf poor only. This is what USA want. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:44:29 +0530 From: priyankan.gosw...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] China to Attack India: Perfect Sensational (Yellow?) Journalism Dear All, Although the news of a possible Chinese Threat to India is accepted by both Pentagon and Indian Defence Sources, here I am trying to highlight something else. The headlines in today's *Asomiya Pratidin* is That China will Attack India in 2012. Even in NE Tv, they are now showing the story again and again!! -- Links in Pratidin: http://anax1b.pressmart.net/asomiya/AS/AS/2010/08/18/ArticleHtmls/18_08_2010_001_009.shtml?Mode=0 http://anax1b.pressmart.net/asomiya/AS/AS/2010/08/18/ArticleHtmls/18_08_2010_010_004.shtml?Mode=0 --- Now Check out the following Blog in *Sify.com *by Bharat Verma (Editor, Indian Defence Review) published on 2009-07-12 *A Year Earlier * http://sify.com/news/nervous-china-may-attack-india-by-2012-news-features-jhmqlGgeaia.html *Yes, you will surprised to see that both stories are almost exactly the same. A matter of Plain Translation. * Does our Journalists in Assam (not all) lack basic orginiality and concept that they have to translate an entire English blog into Assamese and convert it into sensational HEADLINES!!! Such a Shame! --- Regards Priyankan ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form
Is it Assamnet or Banglanet? Advertising Bangla Unicode texts? :-) From: pragyan.ts...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:00:05 +0530 To: assam@assamnet.org; xo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [Assam] Ramayana in Comic form Let your kids read Complete Ramayana in Comic form http://www.scribd.com/full/29882404?access_key=key-15boxcvmdkba8yvyxldy -- Sushanta Kar সুশান্ত কর তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম আমার ব্লগগুলি: http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান' http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান শিক্ষা রবীন্দ্রনাথ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Politics as a Monoploy business
Currently almost all Indian Newspaper, mostly Assamese, covers 80% political news in the first page, 90% in Editorial page. Is this what Politics is growing as a Monopoly business from Politicians to media persons? Very sad that, you will get daily minimum 2 dowry death news in very brief, in the middle pages, with negligence. Is this what, we Kharkhowas proud, We do not have dowry system in our society. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
Is that what you read? Is that what you understood? I tell ya, in C'da's words - its the damn English language! Sorry Sir, I am trying to avoid damn English, because I have used already one dmna english and scolded. :-) If you can't tell us the difference, having lived in Asom's villages, going through all the hardships, who can? Just tell us a few things, we will try to understand. Or do you think I'll have to go to Bebejia, Pokua, or Nalbari or Namti to understand the full flavor of it all? Ok. Simple. For Himanta His company, Akhil Gogoi is Terrorist. And for Akhil Gogoi his company, Himanta is Terrorist. Revolution! I still believe what late PKD tried. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:39:17 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT Wat kind of allowance u gave to BD based(yet) ULFA fellows? Sure it is not about financial allowance. Did u gave them visa and passport? :) Is that what you read? Is that what you understood? I tell ya, in C'da's words - its the damn English language! Sorry sir, i am not eligible to educate u about terrorism and revolution, till u sit abroad. Come to our villages. I will show u, no need to teach. If you can't tell us the difference, having lived in Asom's villages, going through all the hardships, who can? Just tell us a few things, we will try to understand. Or do you think I'll have to go to Bebejia, Pokua, or Nalbari or Namti to understand the full flavor of it all? Oh well! On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Madhuri Gupta. U must be joking. R u serious with your tell about Yasin Malik? 15 yrs before he was terrorist with his JKLF, to GOI. But not now, as he left weapons and came to democratic movement. Is he terrorist or what? Sorry sir, i am not eligible to educate u about terrorism and revolution, till u sit abroad. Come to our villages. I will show u, no need to teach. Wat kind of allowance u gave to BD based(yet) ULFA fellows? Sure it is not about financial allowance. Did u gave them visa and passport? :) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:06:17 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT ** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? What about RAW? Is it like the CIA, ISI, Bangladesh Intel, KGB, MI 9? Whats the difference? I don't know who Gupta is? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? Me too. I am also just a simple fellow, with no standing! *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? This is what I wrote: Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. If you read it carefully, I did make allowances for some Assamese like the ulfa who are holed up in B'desh. *** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist. True, terrorism does spread to other countries. But countries like Pakistan export them - to India, to Afganistan and other places. Terrorism Revolution, difference: Assume, I don't know, please educate us. I don't know Yasin Malik? Will knowing him/her make a difference in my thinking? __ On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective, finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians. *** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror groups throught India. And Pakistan is known world wide as a failed snation that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense. *** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:59:13 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
So, KJD, tell, me how do you classify gangs who murder innocent children at Dhemaji - are they terrorists or the everyday, pie-in-sky revolutionaries? Let me answer you. The Dhemaji bomb was planted by miss-leaded Rashid Bharali with a conspiracy of Bhorot Noroh. The bomb plant was totally without any consent of any senior leader(who has right to command) of ULFA. If you want to know the Dhemaji incident's reality, behind, I can forward one person, who was spot witness of the incident and was observing entire thing before after the incident. Do you need? He can tell you, better than me, as he is native from that place. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:35:53 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT KJD, I agree. Our kharwhowa terrorists are really not made of the same stuff as those Pakistani Mumbai attackers. Those guys (may have been high on something) were willing to give up their lives - for a cause, however rotten it was. The motto on this side seems to be, run, run as fast as your feet will carry you, so that you can live and kill again another time. I am just too damn tired of some people trying to pass out known terrorists as revolutionaries, and all unrest as revolutions. And then all of a sudden, we are expected to redefine terms known for centuries. So, KJD, tell, me how do you classify gangs who murder innocent children at Dhemaji - are they terrorists or the everyday, pie-in-sky revolutionaries? One can call them anything, in my book, they are just plain 'ol murderers, who think they know the answers to all of Assam's problems. --Ram On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:15 PM, kamal deka kjit.d...@gmail.com wrote: Terrorism Revolution, difference: Assume, RS, I don't know the difference either.However,I know how an Islamic terrorist differs from kharkhowa one.An army officer told me this story way back in 2002. An Islamic terrorist is gutsy and hard nut to crack, whereas a kharkhowa terrorist is faint-hearted or chiken-hearted.Just a mild scold make him do two things--FIRST HE WETS HIS PANTS BY EASING HIMSELF,OF COURSE OUT OF FEAR,AND THEN DIVULGE EVERYTHING INSTANTLY.And these are the namby-pamby specimens of kharkhowa so-called revolutionaries. LET ME ASSURE YOU ONE MORE THING.I HAVE NEVER SEEN A KHARKHOWA SAMPLE,WHO CHASTISED ANOTHER KHARKHOWA FOR NOT VIEWING THINGS FROM PAKISTANI OR BANGLADESHI PERSPECTIVE. IF THE LAND OF ASSAM IS FILLED WITH SUCH SPECIES,IN WHICH DIRECTION DO I THINK OUR DEAR STATE WILL BE RACING BUT DOWN. THICK-HEADED YES--BLIND TOO. IS THERE A POINT IN CONTINUING CONVERSATION WITH SUCH SPECIMENS? FOR MY MONEY--CERTAINLY NO. KJD On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ram Sarangapani assa...@gmail.com wrote: ** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? What about RAW? Is it like the CIA, ISI, Bangladesh Intel, KGB, MI 9? Whats the difference? I don't know who Gupta is? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? Me too. I am also just a simple fellow, with no standing! *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? This is what I wrote: Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. If you read it carefully, I did make allowances for some Assamese like the ulfa who are holed up in B'desh. *** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist. True, terrorism does spread to other countries. But countries like Pakistan export them - to India, to Afganistan and other places. Terrorism Revolution, difference: Assume, I don't know, please educate us. I don't know Yasin Malik? Will knowing him/her make a difference in my thinking? __ On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective, finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians. *** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror groups throught India. And Pakistan
Re: [Assam] From ToI/Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel
I was robbed in Paris but still haven't bought a gun. Hieun Chang was robbed when he was backing from Kamrup to his place. After being robbed he was empty with his everything, and sitting on a stone he was thinking about his mistake. He saw a monkey was fighting with a tiger to save her childs, and after few minutes the monkey was able to recover from the tiger. Mr Chang realised, if he could also fight such. Then he went his place, he thinking about the monkey's fight against the tiger. Reaching his place, he inventend the martial art and named it Kung Fu. Untill Bruce Lee's movie Kung was not so popular beyond China region. But now it is world's most popular martial art. This is the history of invention of Kung Fu. Did you learn Kung Fu? If not why you do not buy a gun? You must have learn something after being robbed. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:12:49 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] From ToI/Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel More intelligent question would be why do civilians need guns even in a democracy like USA to do the same? I am all in favor of banning guns for civilians in USA. Are you an NRA member? I was robbed in Paris but still haven't bought a gun. From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 9:59:49 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] From ToI/Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel Depends on how badly one is affected, robbed ? But the intelligent question should have been: WHY do Indians , in their DEMOCRATIC country, have to take to guns, before their grievances see the light of day, much less a fair and timely resolution? Or is that too complicated? On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: Guns make a difference anywhere in the world. Doe it mean every civilian must have a gun to make a point? From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 9:50:19 PM Subject: [Assam] From ToI/Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel So it proves one thing LOUD and CLEAR: That unless you take up arms to defend your rights in India, nothing happens. Desi demokrasy is all but impotent to guarantee the rights of people. But when they take up arms, Dilli does notice, don't they? Except that some of our kharkhowa ex-pats still can't fathom it. I wonder WHY these were NOT illegal so far? Naxalism does make the difference for the people after all. cm Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel Read more: Vedanta mines illegal, must be shut down: Green panel - India Business - Business - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Vedanta-mines-illegal-must-be-shut-down-Green-panel/articleshow/6321872.cms#ixzz0wpMAIbWX X NEW DELHI: Mining giant Vedanta consistently violated several laws in bauxite mining at Niyamgiri, encroached upon government land, got clearances on the basis of false information and illegally built its aluminium refinery at Lanjigarh, Orissa. As the company engaged in these violations, the Orissa government colluded with it and the Centre turned a blind eye. , These are some of the findings of the four-member N C Saxena committee, which on Monday recommended that the company not be allowed to mine in the hills that are the abode of the Dongaria Kondh and Kutia Kondh tribes in Orissa. , The no-holds-barred indictment of the state and private sector in the $1.7billion project brings out the short shrift given to concerns about tribal rights and environmental protection. It is significant also because it underlines the changed sensibilities of the government towards the issues against the backdrop of Left-wing extremism and why Naxalites are finding it easy to influence alienated tribal belts. , The stern report of the environment and forests ministry panel signalled that tribal rights and environmental isssues have finally muscled their way onto the governance agenda, forcing the authorities to take action against corporates who may have shown disregard for rules. The Saxena committee report, which could lead to shutting down of the Vedanta smelters in Orissa, comes after the MoEF moved to stop or stall several high-profile, heavy-investment projects, including the Posco Integrated Steel project in Orissa, which, at Rs 56, 000 crore is the single-largest foreign direct investment in India, the Jindal thermal power plant in Chhattisgarh (Rs 10,000 crore),
Re: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats
RE: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats Who says? Only a news by a newspaper? Roads were empty, people were in house. After all it was Sunday. Sunday is always a boycott to everything for Kharkhowas. Then how who denied ULTRA dictats of Boycott? Some people (assume 10,000 Flags) were present in the state at that they. Where are the rest? Sleeping, enjoying TV, market etc etc... To be said practically, the GoI itself making it's 15th August 26th August two horrible occassion by Army operattions, tight(!) security, check points at roads... Have a thought. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:52:27 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats *** Of course. They should censor everything. After all,it ought be jwr jaar, muluk taar. And we sing the praises of democracy! On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Jyotirmoy Sharma wrote: It's also time the media houses stop publishing the calls for boycott of national festivities by these terror groups. What purpose is it serving? It is surprising to read some news and media reporting it to be 64th instead of 63th independence day. 2010-1947= 63?? When we celebrate birthdays we celebrate the completion of years rather than the beginning of the next year. Eg: Someone born in 1970 will celebrate his 1st bday in 1971 ( rather than start of 2nd year ). Why is the confusion? JS ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats
I think we should give some credit to the fiercely self-reliant and independent journalists referred to by Thakuria. They don't depend on others to make the news worth reporting on. So they help make the news and then report it. Yes they have the Freedom for it. And ULTRAs also have Freedom to call Boycott. And, we as common people, have all Freedom, boycott or deny boycott. :-) Something to be said about self-reliance here, isn't it ? Sure. :-) From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:54:52 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats I think we should give some credit to the fiercely self-reliant and independent journalists referred to by Thakuria. They don't depend on others to make the news worth reporting on. So they help make the news and then report it. Something to be said about self-reliance here, isn't it ? :-) :-) On Aug 17, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka wrote: RE: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats Who says? Only a news by a newspaper? Roads were empty, people were in house. After all it was Sunday. Sunday is always a boycott to everything for Kharkhowas. Then how who denied ULTRA dictats of Boycott? Some people (assume 10,000 Flags) were present in the state at that they. Where are the rest? Sleeping, enjoying TV, market etc etc... To be said practically, the GoI itself making it's 15th August 26th August two horrible occassion by Army operattions, tight(!) security, check points at roads... Have a thought. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:52:27 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Guwahatians defy ultra diktats *** Of course. They should censor everything. After all,it ought be jwr jaar, muluk taar. And we sing the praises of democracy! On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Jyotirmoy Sharma wrote: It's also time the media houses stop publishing the calls for boycott of national festivities by these terror groups. What purpose is it serving? It is surprising to read some news and media reporting it to be 64th instead of 63th independence day. 2010-1947= 63?? When we celebrate birthdays we celebrate the completion of years rather than the beginning of the next year. Eg: Someone born in 1970 will celebrate his 1st bday in 1971 ( rather than start of 2nd year ). Why is the confusion? JS ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh China, then the same in Pakistan, Bangladesh should be due to India. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:42:36 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, and then have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn. Let us assume that is true. If so, what other major 'democratic' country in the world can you name that has this problem, of its own people up in arms against itself? And does it tell you something ? On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote: This appeared in the NYT a couple of days ago. As usual, the NYT seems to be against India and its position vis-a-vis Kashmir. Many Indians think (and rightly so) - that the Kashmir problem will not stop with Kashmir. Pakistan will make sure to encroach deeper and deeper into India, by pumping in hordes of Pakistanis into India far beyond Kashmir, and 1-, 20 years down the line start demanding a plebiscites in those encroached areas. India is in a precarious place, wedged between two hostile, ever encroaching neighbors. In the East, B'desh has all but taken over Assam without firing a single bullet, and in the West, Pakistan is slowly but surely changing world opinion against India - basically making her look as if she is occupying Kashmir. China holds 1/3rd of Kashmir, but the Pakistanis and the world does not have the guts to tell the Chinese to withdraw. India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, and then have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn. This enemy comes in the form of Maoists, insurgents, home grown terror outfits. The sooner the Central state leaderships acknowledge,realize the dangers of these groups, the better off India will be to quell these murderous groups running loose in the country. --Ram http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/13/world/asia/13kashmir.html?pagewanted=print Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir By LYDIA POLGREENhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/lydia_polgreen/index.html?inline=nyt-per SRINAGAR, Kashmir — Late Sunday night, after six days on life support with a bullet in his brain, Fida Nabi, a 19-year-old high school student, was unhooked from his ventilator at a hospital here. Mr. Nabi was the 50th person to die in Kashmir’s bloody summer of rage. He had been shot in the head, his family and witnesses said, during a protest against Indiahttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/india/index.html?inline=nyt-geo’s military presence in this disputed province. For decades, India maintained hundreds of thousands of security forces in Kashmir to fight an insurgency sponsored by Pakistanhttp://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/pakistan/index.html?inline=nyt-geo, which claims this border region, too. The insurgency has been largely vanquished. But those Indian forces are still here, and today they face a threat potentially more dangerous to the world’s largest democracy: an intifada-like popular revolt against the Indian military presence that includes not just stone-throwing young men but their sisters, mothers, uncles and grandparents. The protests, which have erupted for a third straight summer, have led India to one of its most serious internal crises in recent memory. Not just because of their ferocity and persistence, but because they signal the failure of decades of efforts to win the assent of Kashmiris using just about any tool available: money, elections and overwhelming force. “We need a complete revisit of what our policies in Kashmir have been,” said Amitabh Mattoo, a professor of strategic affairs at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi and a Kashmiri Hindu. “It is not about money — you have spent huge amounts of money. It is not about fair elections. It is about reaching out to a generation of Kashmiris who think India is a huge monster represented by bunkers and security forces.” Indeed, Kashmir’s demand for self-determination is sharper today than it has been at perhaps any other time in the region’s troubled history. It comes as — and in part because — diplomatic efforts remain frozen to resolve the dispute created more than 60 years ago with the partition of mostly Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan. Today each nation controls part of Kashmir, whose
Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have
been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective,
finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the
Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians.
*** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? I am just an simple
fellow, but the toppers high classes?
The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis
come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such
numbers, and illegally.
*** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there?
Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror
groups throught India. And Pakistan is known world wide as a failed snation
that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense.
*** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You
must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you
can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist.
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:59:13 -0500
From: assa...@gmail.com
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh China, then the same
in Pakistan, Bangladesh should be due to India.
I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have
been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective,
finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the
Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians.
The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis
come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such
numbers, and illegally.
Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror
groups throught India. And Pakistan is known world wide as a failed snation
that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense.
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka
dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote:
If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh China, then the same
in Pakistan, Bangladesh should be due to India.
From: cmaha...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:42:36 -0500
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from
within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms
from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, and
then
have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn.
Let us assume that is true. If so, what other major 'democratic'
country in the world can you name that has this problem, of its own
people up in arms against itself? And does it tell you something ?
On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
This appeared in the NYT a couple of days ago. As usual, the NYT seems
to be
against India and its position vis-a-vis Kashmir.
Many Indians think (and rightly so) - that the Kashmir problem will not
stop
with Kashmir. Pakistan will make sure to encroach deeper and deeper
into
India, by pumping in hordes of Pakistanis into India far beyond
Kashmir, and
1-, 20 years down the line start demanding a plebiscites in those
encroached
areas.
India is in a precarious place, wedged between two hostile, ever
encroaching
neighbors. In the East, B'desh has all but taken over Assam without
firing a
single bullet, and in the West, Pakistan is slowly but surely changing
world
opinion against India - basically making her look as if she is
occupying
Kashmir. China holds 1/3rd of Kashmir, but the Pakistanis and the world
does
not have the guts to tell the Chinese to withdraw.
India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from
within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms
from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, and
then
have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn.
This enemy comes in the form of Maoists, insurgents, home grown
terror
outfits. The sooner the Central state leaderships acknowledge,realize
the
dangers of these groups, the better off India will be to quell these
murderous groups running loose in the country.
--Ram
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/13/world/asia/13kashmir.html?pagewanted=print
Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir By LYDIA
POLGREEN
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/lydia_polgreen/index.html?inline=nyt-per
SRINAGAR, Kashmir — Late Sunday night, after six days on life support
Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT
Madhuri Gupta. U must be joking. R u serious with your tell about Yasin Malik? 15 yrs before he was terrorist with his JKLF, to GOI. But not now, as he left weapons and came to democratic movement. Is he terrorist or what? Sorry sir, i am not eligible to educate u about terrorism and revolution, till u sit abroad. Come to our villages. I will show u, no need to teach. Wat kind of allowance u gave to BD based(yet) ULFA fellows? Sure it is not about financial allowance. Did u gave them visa and passport? :) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:06:17 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT ** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? What about RAW? Is it like the CIA, ISI, Bangladesh Intel, KGB, MI 9? Whats the difference? I don't know who Gupta is? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? Me too. I am also just a simple fellow, with no standing! *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? This is what I wrote: Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. If you read it carefully, I did make allowances for some Assamese like the ulfa who are holed up in B'desh. *** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist. True, terrorism does spread to other countries. But countries like Pakistan export them - to India, to Afganistan and other places. Terrorism Revolution, difference: Assume, I don't know, please educate us. I don't know Yasin Malik? Will knowing him/her make a difference in my thinking? __ On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective, finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians. *** What about the RAW fellows specially Madhuri Gupta? I am just an simple fellow, but the toppers high classes? The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. *** Then ULFA, NDFB other fellows were doing and still there? Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror groups throught India. And Pakistan is known world wide as a failed snation that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense. *** Terror doesn't belong to a single country. It is increasing everywhere. You must find the difference between Terrorism Revolution in Kashmir. I hope you can't say Yasin Malik yet a terrorist. Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:59:13 -0500 From: assa...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh China, then the same in Pakistan, Bangladesh should be due to India. I am sure the Pakistanis would love to know this. For a long time, they have been looking for scapegoats, and Indians, being the very self-introspective, finding flimsy reasons to quibble, will easily and willingly placate the Pakistanis, and give them yet another reason to hate Indians. The reverse is not necessarily true. For instance, illegal Bangladeshis come into Assam by the millions. Assamese do not go to B'desh in such numbers, and illegally. Pakistan actively supports terror activities in Kashmir, arms other terror groups throught India. And Pakistan is known world wide as a failed snation that harbors, and facilitates terror. They have no defense. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: If Terrorism in India is due to Pakistan, Bangladesh China, then the same in Pakistan, Bangladesh should be due to India. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:42:36 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian Forces Face Broader Revolt in Kashmir - NYT India is faced by a 3rd enemy - a far more insidious one, an enemy from within. This enemy will feed on precious Indian resources, get arms from China and Pakistan, use Bangladesh and other places as camps, and then have teary-eyed HR groups crying foul and ill-treatment at every turn. Let us assume that is true. If so, what other major 'democratic' country in the world can you name that has this problem, of its own people up in arms against itself? And does
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Either Arms power or Third Country help. As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This should be notebale. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has and HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help. That simple. On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake, deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this morning) ? Again, the Devil is in the details. This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It is not for outsiders to prescribe it. If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject. The govt. definitely is not the one to define Autonomy. I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has to talk about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the fox. Where is the hound to keep the fox away? From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and meaningful FEDERAL arrangement could be for others. That is the bottom line. I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing in the net for a long time. Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give credit where credit is due' when I can. Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan anymore. :-) I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable friends might characterize it, on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me red-handed. Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow men with my SLOGANS or incitements or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion, here you are, unfortunately, reading more than you should be. WHY? For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved around 'AUTONOMY' in this forum as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges from yours truly, would come out and tell us WHAT the PROBLEM is, in your view, for which you proffer AUTONOMY as the solution. Why does that matter? As I explained a number of times before, it matters immensely, because WHAT IF this amazing AUTONOMY solution of your desires, does NOT include what it must , to deal with Assam's PROBLEMS ? Then what? Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake, deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this morning) ? Again, the Devil is in the details. I totally support if some parliamentarians make the demand for incorporation of Autonomy into the Indian constitution. Is there someone who will risk that? That is akin to asking the proverbial fox, if he should be the right one to guard the hen-house, wouldn't it? Someone from Assam or JK to make some noise in Loksabha? If it fails first time, try another time, then another .? As far as I know no one has tried it yet. Since the fox will never disqualify himself from hen-house guarding duties, should the wise-ones who have taken upon themselves to be keepers and masters of the restive populations , with the fox as their proxy, not propose it themselves, instead of continuing to conduct the world's longest running low-intensity warfare on its own population ? Does it give you any clues? Should it?
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Dear A.E.,
Who?
Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have
autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs?
Are we voting such MPs from our states? We did not vote Deben Dutta. We till
shout about Bhupen Hazarika, I tried to expose him thrice, but people are
against of it. We select dumbos like Kirip Chaliha, Golam Osmani(who till
enjoys young girls even in train journey), Ramen Barua(most dumb) etc Mps.
What can we aspect from these kind of MPs?
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:50:47 -0700
From: dilipd...@yahoo.com
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Dear A.E.,
Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have
autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs?
From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com
To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; Chandan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Either Arms power or Third Country help.
As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This
should
be notebale.
From: cmaha...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has
and
HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help.
That simple.
On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with,
if
or
when it does? And how could
I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the
worth
of
os such autonomy UNLESS
you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the
PROBLEMS
are,
for which your idea of
autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of
Indian
make-believe, appearances-sake,
deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this
morning) ?
Again, the Devil is in the details.
This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It
is
not for outsiders to prescribe it.
If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject.
The
govt.
definitely is not the one to define Autonomy.
I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has
to
talk
about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept
must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the
fox.
Where is the hound to keep the fox away?
From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and
meaningful
FEDERAL arrangement
could be for others.
That is the bottom line.
I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing
in
the
net for a long time.
Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give credit
where
credit is due'
when I can.
Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan
anymore. :-)
I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable
friends
might characterize it,
on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me
red-handed.
Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow men
with
my
SLOGANS or incitements
or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion,
here
you
are, unfortunately, reading more
than you should be.
WHY?
For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved
around
'AUTONOMY' in this forum
as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges from
yours
truly, would come out
and tell us WHAT the PROBLEM is, in your view, for which you proffer
AUTONOMY
as
the solution.
Why does that matter?
As I explained a number of times before, it matters immensely, because
WHAT
IF
this amazing AUTONOMY
solution of your desires, does NOT include what it must , to deal with
Assam's
PROBLEMS ?
Then what?
Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if
or
when it does? And how could
I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the
worth
of
os such autonomy UNLESS
you explain, clearly
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Late Parag Kr Das was quite correct about the formation of GoI i.e. HINDI/HINDU/HINDUSTHAN. We need to realise act. Thakreys are doing well. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:53:59 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Why would the Assam MPs want a radical change in doing business? Why would the Congress MPs even think of it, nijor xandooh khowa baali tololoi nibole'? On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: Dear A.E., Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs? From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; Chandan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Either Arms power or Third Country help. As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This should be notebale. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has and HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help. That simple. On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake, deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this morning) ? Again, the Devil is in the details. This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It is not for outsiders to prescribe it. If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject. The govt. definitely is not the one to define Autonomy. I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has to talk about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the fox. Where is the hound to keep the fox away? From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and meaningful FEDERAL arrangement could be for others. That is the bottom line. I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing in the net for a long time. Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give credit where credit is due' when I can. Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan anymore. :-) I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable friends might characterize it, on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me red-handed. Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow men with my SLOGANS or incitements or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion, here you are, unfortunately, reading more than you should be. WHY? For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved around 'AUTONOMY' in this forum as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges from yours truly, would come out and tell us WHAT the PROBLEM is, in your view, for which you proffer AUTONOMY as the solution. Why does that matter? As I explained a number of times before, it matters immensely, because WHAT IF this amazing AUTONOMY solution of your desires, does NOT include what it must , to deal with Assam's PROBLEMS ? Then what? Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Why only Autonomy? Why not grow up like Maoist? Political parties will remain same by their character, untill 356 is there. Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:01:45 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI All MPs from Assam do not belong to the same party. The same applies to the other states that I was talking about. Are you saying there is not a single parliamentarian who wants to bring up Autonomy? Even if interested parties pay him/them? :-) From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:53:59 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Why would the Assam MPs want a radical change in doing business? Why would the Congress MPs even think of it, nijor xandooh khowa baali tololoi nibole'? On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Dilip Deka wrote: Dear A.E., Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs? From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; Chandan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Either Arms power or Third Country help. As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This should be notebale. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has and HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help. That simple. On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake, deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this morning) ? Again, the Devil is in the details. This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It is not for outsiders to prescribe it. If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject. The govt. definitely is not the one to define Autonomy. I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has to talk about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the fox. Where is the hound to keep the fox away? From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and meaningful FEDERAL arrangement could be for others. That is the bottom line. I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing in the net for a long time. Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give credit where credit is due' when I can. Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan anymore. :-) I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable friends might characterize it, on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me red-handed. Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow men with my SLOGANS or incitements or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion, here you are, unfortunately, reading more than you should be. WHY? For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved around 'AUTONOMY' in this forum as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges from yours truly, would come out and tell us WHAT the PROBLEM is, in your view, for which you proffer AUTONOMY as the solution. Why does that matter? As I explained a number of times before, it matters immensely, because WHAT IF this amazing AUTONOMY solution of your desires, does NOT include what it must , to deal
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Alter Ego
Sorry Sir, I am a village boy. Kindly simplify me to understand.
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:49:53 -0700
From: dilipd...@yahoo.com
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Alter Ego
From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com
To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:56:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Dear A.E.,
Who?
Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have
autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs?
Are we voting such MPs from our states? We did not vote Deben Dutta. We till
shout about Bhupen Hazarika, I tried to expose him thrice, but people are
against of it. We select dumbos like Kirip Chaliha, Golam Osmani(who till
enjoys
young girls even in train journey), Ramen Barua(most dumb) etc Mps.
What can we aspect from these kind of MPs?
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:50:47 -0700
From: dilipd...@yahoo.com
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Dear A.E.,
Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have
autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs?
From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com
To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; Chandan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Either Arms power or Third Country help.
As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This
should
be notebale.
From: cmaha...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500
To: assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam
has
and
HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help.
That simple.
On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes
with, if
or
when it does? And how could
I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the
worth
of
os such autonomy UNLESS
you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the
PROBLEMS
are,
for which your idea of
autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of
Indian
make-believe, appearances-sake,
deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this
morning) ?
Again, the Devil is in the details.
This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it.
It is
not for outsiders to prescribe it.
If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject.
The
govt.
definitely is not the one to define Autonomy.
I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has
to
talk
about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept
must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the
fox.
Where is the hound to keep the fox away?
From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and
meaningful
FEDERAL arrangement
could be for others.
That is the bottom line.
I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same
thing
in
the
net for a long time.
Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give
credit
where
credit is due'
when I can.
Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan
anymore. :-)
I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable
friends
might characterize it,
on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me
red-handed.
Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow
men
with
my
SLOGANS or incitements
or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion,
here
you
are, unfortunately, reading more
than you should be.
WHY?
For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved
around
'AUTONOMY' in this forum
as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges
from
yours
truly, would
Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
I borne brought up in such a village where my known women were raped by Indian Forces, youths are killed mercilessly by Indian Forces... Flag Hosting! I am only Assamese. No other identity I hold. Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:33:45 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Boy, oh boy! You are burning some midnight oil in a village in Assam to stay up with these crazies in Assamnet. Isn't there anything better to do at night in Assam? How was Pataka Uttolan on the 15th? Did you visit the function organized by Nava Thakuria? From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 2:56:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Alter Ego Sorry Sir, I am a village boy. Kindly simplify me to understand. Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:49:53 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Alter Ego From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:56:15 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Dear A.E., Who? Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs? Are we voting such MPs from our states? We did not vote Deben Dutta. We till shout about Bhupen Hazarika, I tried to expose him thrice, but people are against of it. We select dumbos like Kirip Chaliha, Golam Osmani(who till enjoys young girls even in train journey), Ramen Barua(most dumb) etc Mps. What can we aspect from these kind of MPs? Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:50:47 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Dear A.E., Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs? From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; Chandan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI Either Arms power or Third Country help. As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This should be notebale. From: cmaha...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has and HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help. That simple. On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or when it does? And how could I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth of os such autonomy UNLESS you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS are, for which your idea of autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian make-believe, appearances-sake, deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this morning) ? Again, the Devil is in the details. This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It is not for outsiders to prescribe it. If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject. The govt. definitely is not the one to define Autonomy. I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has to talk about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the fox. Where is the hound to keep the fox away? From: Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote: AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and meaningful FEDERAL arrangement could be for others. That is the bottom line. I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing
Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue
Dear K J Deka, I live in village. I am village boy. I have seen no ethnic difference between the common people, whether it is Bodo, Karbi, Mishing, Tiwa, Rabha or whatever. This issues are been driven by some notoriously selfish people, and unfortuantely they belong to heir own ethnic identity. I use to roam the villages of remote area, but I find some other problems of common people which never been highlighted by any media, nor any NGO nor any so-called noted fellow. Those common people have no strong feeling about the ethnic sepration movement. They just accept it as a regular political nuisance. There is no ethnic difference between the common people of Assam, in real. But there is the cast difference problem between the Borno Hindu Axomiya itself. :P My surname is also Deka. But I don't need any Kalita Land. In fact I hate all kind of demands of Land. We must prevent this separative mentality by our own doing. GoI always like this, as it has got this nature by their born(born i.e. so-called Freedom from British, and so the nature of Divide Rule policy too). Better I will support mentally, financially, morally even physically too, a Hitlar type cruel Dictator(no matter who he is), who will try to stop separation of Assam. This is my final saying about this Land formula. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:57:34 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue Hello Dhrubajyoti, I do agree with you on this.I want to see an united Assam where diversity should sparkle in unity. In my opinion,multiculturalism is the antithesis of nationalism; it highlights the differences between peoples while ignoring the similarities whereas nationalism, on the other hand, highlights the similarities between peoples while obscuring the differences. It seeks to melt everybody into one unit, which, as a whole, reveres the state, even as single members of the unit sustain cultural differences -- on an individual basis. K J Deka On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: I dont need any land. I only need Assam. For it, I will support every kind of facism. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:35:40 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue Let's take the ' bottom line to the logical conclusion. We will have Dekaland,Kalitaland,Bodoland,Rabhaland,Tiwaland,Dimasaland,Misingland,Islamistan---ad infinitum. Now,we have created another 'bottom line'---WHERE WILL 'ULFALAND' FIT IN THEIR MIDST. CONFUSION WORSE CONFOUNDED!!! KJD On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com wrote: The bottom line is: DO WE REALLY NEED ANY OTHER DEFINITION OF AUTONOMY? A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A COUNTRY WITHIN A COUNTRY *** The 'country' does not exist. It is a figment of idle imaginations. If it did, it wouldn't be in the shambles it is. So the question of a country within a country does not arise. *** The second thing is that who are we to dictate what the Nagas want or what the Kashmiris want or what Bodos want. Only the incurably pretentious would want to tell them what they should be happy with. On Aug 12, 2010, at 7:24 PM, kamal deka wrote: Take a look at the' Naga- Indian' imbroglio.Article 371A ( the Constitution was amended to accommodate that) provides various safeguards for Nagaland.These include a provision whereby no Act of Parliament in respect of the religious or social practices of Nagas,Naga customary law and procedure,administration of civil and criminal justice involving decisions according to Naga customary law and ownership and transfer of land shall apply to the state.IS THERE ANY REASON,AFTER PROCURING ALL OF THE ABOVE( READ AUTONOMY),WHY NAGA IDENTITY OR CULTURE OR OTHER NAGA INTERESTS SHOULD BE INJURED OR ERODED ? And yet,NSCN proclaimed its motto to be NAGALAND FOR CHRIST.The NSCN manifesto exclaims that Nagas are DIFFERENT FROM OTHER INDIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS and they could lose their identity in an ocean of Hindus and other non-christians in India,completely sidestepping the fact that India is a secular state in which freedom of worship is guaranteed by the Constitution.An valid arguement can be made by citing the fact that for every Christian in Nagaland,there are almost 20 elsewhere in the country.The MAR THOMAS CHURCH OF KERALA IS ONE OF THE VERY OLDEST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND IT HAS FLOURISHED FOR 1940 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE TOLERANCE AND RESPECT SHOWN BY THE PEOPLE BELONGING TO OTHER FAITHS.AND IF ASSURANCE WERE NEEDED,THIS IS TO BE FOUND IN THE INCREASE IN NAGALAND'S OWN CHRISTIAN POPULATION SINCE 1947. Now take a look at the custom-made Article 370 which mandates
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Uttamda, First of all, I used BULLSHIT to ABSU's demand(not against BODOs. ABSU is not all the Bodo, as AASU is not all the Assamese) and I made it cleared very first. But you were nabing the issue to another way. I am helpless, if you get fun in this too. Second thing, you said you have asked your senior Journalist friends about me and you got a NULL VOID result. Obviousely it hurts somebody. If you wonder, why should not I? I do not hesitate to say or accept that Yes, the so-called NOTED BIG journalists do not know me, and I am proud of that. Being a journalist, I do not need to be known by other Journalists. All I need is success of my attempt and good for common people. I do not care which Journalist knows me or which Journalist does not know me. Third and last is, you were insulting me in good manner in polite language. Do you think, I did not understand those? I too do not wish to continue with you at least. If you feel replies as abusive or hard, then sure me too. If you don't want to get hard replies, simply do not throw anything asking for reply. Finally, neither you know me in person nor I know you. We both are totally stranger for each other, in real mean. If I knew you before this conversation, I may honor you and prevent myself using hard words for you. And vice versa you too. You are senior and aged than me. One universal tell is there. Senior always perdon, and junior always do mistakes. Hope rest people are getting my point. This time no sorry, no hard feeling. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:54:21 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister Dear Sri D J Deka, My mail to Chandan Mahanta should explain my position to you and all others. So, I do not want to continue with this conversation any more. I was worried about you because you used 'bullshit' at a nation as a whole; at that time I was wondering whether it was intentional or not. Now, you are asking me whether I have 'courage'. What should I think now? The way you are advertising who you know and who may be your mentors, I think I should take to my heels, as I may not be able to boast like you about such illustrious company. Whether I ask Dr. Paramananda Rajbongshi, Sri Ajit Bhuyan, Sri Adip Kumar Phukan, Dr. Hiren Gohain about your personal well-being and your amazing journalistic exploits and social adventures is my prerogative ( I shall do it if necessary); because my primary worry is not you, but whether I should get into a conversation that threatens to leave a sour taste. Now I see, you have no control over the language you use. I do not know whether it is intentional or not. But I have no intention of carrying on this conversation with you any more and I am no more curious about you, as I shall not continue the conversation. Please remember it all started with your BULL SHIT comment towards BODOS; there's nothing personal involved. So, you do not have to say no hard feelings everytime: I do not intend to have any feelings at all. Rest assured about that. Uttam Kumar Borthakur ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue
I dont need any land. I only need Assam. For it, I will support every kind of facism. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:35:40 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] The autonomy issue Let's take the ' bottom line to the logical conclusion. We will have Dekaland,Kalitaland,Bodoland,Rabhaland,Tiwaland,Dimasaland,Misingland,Islamistan---ad infinitum. Now,we have created another 'bottom line'---WHERE WILL 'ULFALAND' FIT IN THEIR MIDST. CONFUSION WORSE CONFOUNDED!!! KJD On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Chan Mahanta cmaha...@gmail.com wrote: The bottom line is: DO WE REALLY NEED ANY OTHER DEFINITION OF AUTONOMY? A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A COUNTRY WITHIN A COUNTRY *** The 'country' does not exist. It is a figment of idle imaginations. If it did, it wouldn't be in the shambles it is. So the question of a country within a country does not arise. *** The second thing is that who are we to dictate what the Nagas want or what the Kashmiris want or what Bodos want. Only the incurably pretentious would want to tell them what they should be happy with. On Aug 12, 2010, at 7:24 PM, kamal deka wrote: Take a look at the' Naga- Indian' imbroglio.Article 371A ( the Constitution was amended to accommodate that) provides various safeguards for Nagaland.These include a provision whereby no Act of Parliament in respect of the religious or social practices of Nagas,Naga customary law and procedure,administration of civil and criminal justice involving decisions according to Naga customary law and ownership and transfer of land shall apply to the state.IS THERE ANY REASON,AFTER PROCURING ALL OF THE ABOVE( READ AUTONOMY),WHY NAGA IDENTITY OR CULTURE OR OTHER NAGA INTERESTS SHOULD BE INJURED OR ERODED ? And yet,NSCN proclaimed its motto to be NAGALAND FOR CHRIST.The NSCN manifesto exclaims that Nagas are DIFFERENT FROM OTHER INDIANS BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS and they could lose their identity in an ocean of Hindus and other non-christians in India,completely sidestepping the fact that India is a secular state in which freedom of worship is guaranteed by the Constitution.An valid arguement can be made by citing the fact that for every Christian in Nagaland,there are almost 20 elsewhere in the country.The MAR THOMAS CHURCH OF KERALA IS ONE OF THE VERY OLDEST ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND IT HAS FLOURISHED FOR 1940 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE TOLERANCE AND RESPECT SHOWN BY THE PEOPLE BELONGING TO OTHER FAITHS.AND IF ASSURANCE WERE NEEDED,THIS IS TO BE FOUND IN THE INCREASE IN NAGALAND'S OWN CHRISTIAN POPULATION SINCE 1947. Now take a look at the custom-made Article 370 which mandates that the applicability of every law of the Indian Parliament to JK requires i. consultation with the JK government if the subject matter of the law pertains to defence or external affairs or communications, and ii. concurrence of the JK government if the law pertains to subjects other than defence or external affairs or communications. No other state in India has such privilege. That is why the Indian Penal Code, the Prevention of Corruption Act and rules framed for the Central Bureau of Investigation are among the several Parliamentary enactments which are simply not in vogue in JK. As bad as that, if not worse, is the fact that many provisions of the Constitution of India are either i. simply not applicable to JK state or ii. are applicable to JK only in a modified form or iii. subsumed by the provisions of the JK constitution. Further, as in the case a Parliamentary law, application to JK of a provision of the Indian Constitution requires consultation/consent of the JK government depending upon the subject of the constitutional provision. Again, no other state in India has such a privilege of saying 'Yes' or 'No' to a constitutional measure. JK is the only state in India -- Where a distinction has been permitted to be made between state citizens (designated as 'permanent residents') and other Indian citizens (who are not 'permanent residents') and where -- contrary to the principles of equality before the law (Article 14), prohibition of discrimination on the ground of place of birth (Article 15) and equality of opportunity in public employment (Article 16), -- laws are permissible to confer special rights and privileges on 'permanent residents' with respect to employment under the state government, acquisition of immovable property in the state, settlement in the state and right to scholarships as well as other state government aid Ø whose area, boundaries and name cannot be altered without the consent of the state government Ø whose legislative assembly has a tenure of six years Ø where no amendment of the Indian constitution shall have effect without consulting/securing concurrence of the state government even
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Borthakur da, Yet I do not have the email id of Rajbangshi sir. As known to me, he didn't use email, but not sure about current. I haven't talked with him for last 3 months. May be he is in use of email. Well, I will ask Sir about it. But currently Sir is in tour, along with few others. He is on roaming. As you have gently asked me, I must honor your honesty. Well, till you can talk to Rajbangshi sir, I can send you the scanned copies of those reports. But I haven't have all copies, let me check how many copies(out of several serials) I have. Borthakurda, I do not do Freelance. I stepped into Print media through AJI NATOON SOMOY(That time Editor was Ajit Kr Bhuyan) in 2003 August, with a serial report named ULFA-r Swadhin Axom-r Swopno DuSwopno. In 2005, I moved to NATOON DIN, for 3 special investigation reports i.e. (a) The Exposure of Backdated Education Scandal of Nalbari District, (b) Unseen stories of Secret Killing age of Mahanta's rulling (c) Position of Missing ULFA leaders in Bhutan war. Then I was to move to AJI again in late 2005, but the media was to be sold to Anil Majumdar. Almost all staff of Aji moved to another media, after the ownership changed to Anil Majumdar in 2006 July. I didn't go anywhere, and Ajit Bhuyan too. Ajit Bhuyan joined Pratidin in 2008 March after a break of 2 years. And I joined Adinor Sambad (Edit by Adip Kr Phukan) as Spl Reporter. As well as I am the lone webmaster of the ePaper of Adinor Sambad i.e. www.adinorsambad.com I always had yet have PRESS CARD issued by the Media house, I worked. I think yet I am not Free Lancer. Am I correct? If you want proofs, I can send you the scanned copies of my news, articles, press cards etc. But not in this mailing list. I can send you to your own email id. What you say? Manybody says, nobody knows me as Journalist, then how come I claim myself as it is. For those manybody, I have to say nothing. Because my interest of Journalism is Insurgency bit. So you can understand, why nobody knows me as Journalist. I do not hjave any interest on running behind of any Political leader(whether rulling or opposition) nor any other type. I choose my own bit, for my adventure. This is the truth. You can understand now, who knows me as Journalist and who doesn't know. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:50:49 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: assam@assamnet.org; amarjyotibo...@gmail.com; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Dear Srijut Deka, I can talk to Dr. Rajbongshi over phone. But that would not be transparent. For the sake of transparency, and since you have made the claim through the net involving so many people, could you please send me the e-mail id, so that what I would ask him would be available to you as well as the assamnet. In case you do not have it, or not in a position to collect it from him, then let me try to get it myself. But if you can give, it will save me the bother, as I do not belong to your profession which surely has an advantage here. By the way, you report for particular house or are you freelance? Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 11/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in, assamnet org assam@assamnet.org, amarjyotibo...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 9:51 PM Dear Borthakur, The Cell no of Dr Paramananda Rajbangshi(current Secretary of Xahitya Xobha) is 9864049782. And I would like you to give 2 add ons also which will help you to find out the truth. 1] Remind Mr Rajbangshi that you are referred by me(Dhruba Jyoti Deka, Reporter), to talk about the Reports about Axom Xahitya Xobha that were published in 2004, in AJI NATOON SOMOY. 2] Ask what result the report was able to bring out. Hope, you will not take it in negative sense. If you talk in proper manner to Dr Rajbangshi, I am confident you will find out the truth. Hope you willn't play it as to beat me. :P Again no hard feeling. P.S. Regardingg to Akhil Gogoi, I do not hesitate to say that yet I have not either meet him or talk to him. If you have enjoyed throwing this issue about Akhil Gogoi, then I am too happy to know that you are having some fun also here. -Regards Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:37:24 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: assam@assamnet.org; amarjyotibo...@gmail.com; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Dear Sri D J Deka, Please send me Dr. Parama Nanda Rajbongshi's cell no. and e-mail address. Let me forward your mail to him. I got to verify how you made Srijut Rong Bong Terang the President with his help. I should take a leaf from your actions. Learning is continuous process and I am quite open
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Borthakur da, Since I have quite a few personal friends among the senior journalists at Guwahati, I had inquired if they knew you. Since it came as a blank, I was worried,as you have started using not very appropriate language (though your intention may not have been that) against a nation and being unkind to the netters here (except Chandan Da) for not giving due importance that you thought you had deserved. ::: Senior Journalists? I wonder about them. Did you asked Ajit Kr Bhuyan about me? Did you asked Adip Phukan about me? Did you asked Dr Hiren Gohain about me You did not. Then which type of senior Journalists you are talking about? I wonder. Well, Chandan khura's elder bro MM knows 100% of my journalism life. For your issue, I talked with Dr Rajbangshi sir just this evening, and told about the issue. He is out of roaming now. You can call him. On the top of it, Dr. Bikash Das, who has been around with us for quite some time now, seemed to have reservations about your erstwhile conduct. He certified me as a hacker. That too hacking of ULFA email ids. So according to his language I must be an employee of Govt. :P Well the ULFA peoples are also in this maailing list. And they know this Dr(!) and me both well. If you need more clarification then I can mail you personally, with proofs. Do you have that much courage to recieve such emails? :P Since Sri Rajbongshi is out on tour, we should not disturb him for a while. If I feel like I have to, I shall try to know about your journalistic exploits and social actions from the references you have given, as some other senior people could not place you. I said you can talk to him now. I told you whether should I attached the scanned copies. But you remained blank(in your language). Why?? No hard feelings Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:32:51 -0700 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: assam@assamnet.org; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Dear Sri Dhruba Jyoti Deka, Since I have quite a few personal friends among the senior journalists at Guwahati, I had inquired if they knew you. Since it came as a blank, I was worried,as you have started using not very appropriate language (though your intention may not have been that) against a nation and being unkind to the netters here (except Chandan Da) for not giving due importance that you thought you had deserved. On the top of it, Dr. Bikash Das, who has been around with us for quite some time now, seemed to have reservations about your erstwhile conduct. I was worried because I did not want to get involved in an unwarranted conversation. Though you have yet to reply to Dr. Das's portrayal of your past conduct ( which would be material to me because I would not get into a situation where Sri Amar Jyoti Borah would sermonize me only because I protested your vituperative attack on a community as a whole). Since Sri Rajbongshi is out on tour, we should not disturb him for a while. If I feel like I have to, I shall try to know about your journalistic exploits and social actions from the references you have given, as some other senior people could not place you. In the meanwhile, we may engage in discussions about events with dignity. I hope you understand. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Thu, 12/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in, assamnet org assam@assamnet.org Date: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 3:19 PM Dear Borthakur da, Yet I do not have the email id of Rajbangshi sir. As known to me, he didn't use email, but not sure about current. I haven't talked with him for last 3 months. May be he is in use of email. Well, I will ask Sir about it. But currently Sir is in tour, along with few others. He is on roaming. As you have gently asked me, I must honor your honesty. Well, till you can talk to Rajbangshi sir, I can send you the scanned copies of those reports. But I haven't have all copies, let me check how many copies(out of several serials) I have. Borthakurda, I do not do Freelance. I stepped into Print media through AJI NATOON SOMOY(That time Editor was Ajit Kr Bhuyan) in 2003 August, with a serial report named ULFA-r Swadhin Axom-r Swopno DuSwopno. In 2005, I moved to NATOON DIN, for 3 special investigation reports i.e. (a) The Exposure of Backdated Education Scandal of Nalbari District, (b) Unseen stories of Secret Killing age of Mahanta's rulling (c) Position of Missing ULFA leaders in Bhutan war. Then I was to move to AJI again in late 2005, but the media was to be sold to Anil Majumdar. Almost all staff of Aji moved to another media, after the ownership changed to Anil Majumdar in 2006 July. I didn't go anywhere, and Ajit Bhuyan too. Ajit
Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel
Dear Mr Narzary, Thanks. But there are several people in Assam, who want to hide or neglect the social responsibilities of the socially reputed fellows. If one is socially reputed, then he should have social responsibilites too. This is what common people want. -Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:27:42 +0530 From: hnarz...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel good somebody is speaking up. truth must prevail. the kalpana lazmi connection is also very embarrasing From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org; assamsoci...@yahoogroups.com; assamfoundati...@yahoogroups.com; assam_in_bangal...@yahoogroups.com; northeastin...@yahoogroups.com; friendsofassa...@yahoogroups.com; itas...@yahoogroups.com; rinikak...@hotmail.com Sent: Mon, 9 August, 2010 10:23:05 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel Please stop publicity about Bhupen Hazarika. He is the most betrayer of Assam. I place 3 points. 1] In 1983, he sang Juye Pora 83 to bring Assamese youths for movement, but he never stood for Assamese people. Instead he always rubbed his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. 2] In 1988, he sang in the Udito Suruj. The album was sponspored by ULFA for their publicity through Cultural way. In that album, Hazarika sang along with Dr Suresh Phukan of Sivasagar. Later on, in 1990 Dr Suresh Phukan was arrested by Army for the album, but Hazarika was not. Hazarika again ran to rub his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. Dr Suresh Phukan, getting betrayed by Crocodile tears salesman like Bhupen Hazarika, commited sucide in the custody of Army, at Gauhati Medical College Hospital. 3] Hazarika always comes to Assam, when he needs money, needs free treatment. When he gets these, he again leaves Assam. I object against any kind of mercy towards Bhupen Hazarika. And I am ready for all kind of controversy for it. All ready I have scold him twice in 2003 November and 2004 March. When he said Mor Jibonor Prothom Preyoxi aasil ejoni Bihari sowali while Assamese womans were raped by Bhirais in train at Bihar, and Bhupen Hazarika came to Assam to stop AAssamese extreeme sentiment, following the order of his lords(i.e. Indian State Machine). But he never showed his guts against the Indian State Machine. 3] Have ever Hazarika told Indian State Machine, Why you people are dominating us and killing our people? If Mamta Banarjee can oppose the Army Operation against Maoist in West Bengal, why cant Bhupen Hazarika oppose for the same happening in his motheerland for last 3 decades? From: rinikak...@hotmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org; assamsoci...@yahoogroups.com; assamfoundati...@yahoogroups.com; assam_in_bangal...@yahoogroups.com; northeastin...@yahoogroups.com; friendsofassa...@yahoogroups.com; itas...@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:03:26 + Subject: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel Dr.Bhupen Hazarika's Sangeet Kailas Patel Late Kailas Patel marrying into an Assamese family began to appreciate and admire musical culture of Assam. Eventually, Kailas with the collaboration of Dr. Bhupen Hazarika and his brothers and sisters produced a CD of songs with his wife Ruby titled ‘Nijaraparor Sur’. In his life time Kailas always wanted to capture the lilting tunes and lyrics of Assamese folk songs in records and tapes through which this rich musical heritage could be preserved. His untimely death deprived Assam of his desired contributions towards the preservation of Assamese cultural heritage. However, after elapse of time, Ruby Patel with her brothers and sisters and their third generation progeny collected Dr. Bhupen Hazarika’s popular choruses and recorded in their original tunes and music with the help of up and coming established talented musicians in a CD titled ‘Rode Puabor Karone’ (to bask in the sun) to fulfil Kailas’s dreams. The sale of proceeds of this CD will be partly donated to the Nilakanta Shatipriya Hazarika trust and managements of two Primary Schools of poverty stricken, unfortunate children of Panikhaity in Assam which have been managed by Ruby Patel for the last 3 years through contributions of generous public. We hope that the public will enjoy these songs and buy the CDs to help Ruby Patel for the worthy cause. Happy listening to ‘Rode Puabor Karone’. Here is the contact e-mail id of Ruby Patel : ku...@hotmail.com Rini Kakati ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel
I think we shouldnot mix the 'Artist Bhupen Hazarika' with the 'Bhupen Hazarika in person': Why shouldn't we? Does being an Artist give every kind of authority? There may be lot of controversies on personal life of Bhupen Hazarika which could not be denied. But, at the same time, we should not forget that our Satriya Dance got the Classical Dance recognition during his tenure at Sangeet Natak Academy only.: How poor your logic is. Yes he did, but was he able to bring the name of Shankardeva? Bhupen Hazarika brought Satriya Nrittyo, but left Shankardeva. Now say, what is artist and what is culture? In many a times, the people from other parts do recognise us only because of him.: Again very poor logic. May be you get such situation, when you go to meet any singers of Kolkata. But for your kind information, the world has come to know about Assam, because of ULFA. Yeah it is sad about us, but untill ULFA acted violent, the entire world knew nothing about Assam. There are many intances of the great men having darker sides. But, at last, people remember them only because of their greatness not for the wrong reason.: I must say shame to your logic. Greatness Bhupen Hazarika Now this is the worst of your logic and propaganda. No hard feeling. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:58:45 +0530 From: gautam...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org CC: friendsofassa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel I think we shouldnot mix the 'Artist Bhupen Hazarika' with the 'Bhupen Hazarika in person' at all. We simply cannot question about the talent and contribution of the 'Artist Bhupen Hazarika'. Also ,there is nothing wrong in the appeal on ' CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel'. Rather, we should appreciate the effort as 'The sale of proceeds of this CD will be partly donated to the Nilakanta Shantipriya Hazarika trust and managements of two Primary Schools of poverty stricken, unfortunate children of Panikhaity in Assam which have been managed by Ruby Patel for the last 3 years through contributions of generous public. There may be lot of controversies on personal life of Bhupen Hazarika which could not be denied. But, at the same time, we should not forget that our Satriya Dance got the Classical Dance recognition during his tenure at Sangeet Natak Academy only. In many a times, the people from other parts do recognise us only because of him. There are many intances of the great men having darker sides. But, at last, people remember them only because of their greatness not for the wrong reason. Regards Gautam Choudhury --- On Mon, 9/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org, assamsoci...@yahoogroups.com, assamfoundati...@yahoogroups.com, assam_in_bangal...@yahoogroups.com, northeastin...@yahoogroups.com, friendsofassa...@yahoogroups.com, itas...@yahoogroups.com, rinikak...@hotmail.com Date: Monday, 9 August, 2010, 10:23 PM Please stop publicity about Bhupen Hazarika. He is the most betrayer of Assam. I place 3 points. 1] In 1983, he sang Juye Pora 83 to bring Assamese youths for movement, but he never stood for Assamese people. Instead he always rubbed his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. 2] In 1988, he sang in the Udito Suruj. The album was sponspored by ULFA for their publicity through Cultural way. In that album, Hazarika sang along with Dr Suresh Phukan of Sivasagar. Later on, in 1990 Dr Suresh Phukan was arrested by Army for the album, but Hazarika was not. Hazarika again ran to rub his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. Dr Suresh Phukan, getting betrayed by Crocodile tears salesman like Bhupen Hazarika, commited sucide in the custody of Army, at Gauhati Medical College Hospital. 3] Hazarika always comes to Assam, when he needs money, needs free treatment. When he gets these, he again leaves Assam. I object against any kind of mercy towards Bhupen Hazarika. And I am ready for all kind of controversy for it. All ready I have scold him twice in 2003 November and 2004 March. When he said Mor Jibonor Prothom Preyoxi aasil ejoni Bihari sowali while Assamese womans were raped by Bhirais in train at Bihar, and Bhupen Hazarika came to Assam to stop AAssamese extreeme sentiment, following the order of his lords(i.e. Indian State Machine). But he never showed his guts against the Indian State Machine. 3] Have ever Hazarika told Indian State Machine, Why you people are dominating us and killing our people? If Mamta Banarjee can oppose the Army Operation against Maoist in West Bengal, why cant Bhupen Hazarika oppose for the same happening in his motheerland for last 3 decades? From
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Borthakur, Before answering you, I again highlight what I said as major. The highlighted are in reds.Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on them, they shouts that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation of Darrang in August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic group Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as Assamese vs Bangladeshi. While the entire incident started from a marriage between a Muslim boy a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just jokers.Now say, whom I said Bull Shit? Hope people who has least sense of idea, can understand. This is you who is finding some other sense instead of real points.Nothing to say, who doesn't try to listen or understand, but only speaks.No hard feelings. Regards-Dhruba Jyoti DekaPS: About your say That day you were using strong language against those who you perceived did not respond to your call for setting up some sort of a web-site , I proudly want to say that I got single response from Chandan Mahanta Khura from this mailing list, and got few too young boys from Orkut for that mission. With Chandan Khura those youth's help we are going to start the Web Portal by August End. Those youth are not so financially efficient, just they get bellow 10K as salary, but their willingness and acts are great. May be this is bad news for you people, that I have got at least few people, with whom we(I+the others) are going to launch our desired web portal so soon. The brand name is Times of Assam. And the url is www.timesofassam.com Hope you people will also have a look after August(you can have look now too, but yet too input more contents). Again no hard feelings. Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:53:26 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister Dear D J Deka, There are agent provocateurs always trying to cause vertical divisions among people for their vote bank politics and thereby they succeed in tearing apart the social fabric. If one gets carried away by such inducements and hurl verbal abuse at a nation as a whole, would it augur well for generations to come who would have to live with one another. Will you reconsider, get the facts correct and in proper perspective, by trying to see as to who gains from fatricidal wars, before using such abusive language? The things in life are not black and white, they are mostly grey, as age would let you know, unless you are incorrigible, and like to see through jaundiced eys. That day you were using strong language against those who you perceived did not respond to your call for setting up some sort of a web-site. Since you are supposed to be on a never-before-tried saintly mission, are you not supposed to behave like a saint and be forgiving? With your smug outbursts, have you not shown exhibited contempt towards your own kind? Now, you go against Bodos as a nation! Please think over, will you? Or you are going to call me horse-shit or some more demeaning stuff? Dhruba Jyoti Deka Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on them, they shouts that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation of Darrang in August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic group Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as Assamese vs Bangladeshi. While the entire incident started from a marriage between a Muslim boy a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just jokers. Uttam Kumar Borthakur ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Jyotirmoy Sharma, Being a reporter, and upon several organization's request I inquired about 30-10-2008 blast. I had to finish the inquiry within 9pm of the same day, and submitted all reports to all org who asked for it. But except 1 organization(name can not be mentioned due to privacy) all laughed at me. 1] From my inquiry I have found that NDFB did the blast. That time all most all people laughed at me. But later, what is proved? I still have evidence(with written too) that I prepared the correct inquiry submitted report within few hours. I can refer only one fellow. If you have doubt about it, you can ask Mr Biraj Talukdar, President of AJYCP. Mr Talukdar also laughed at me and was rude on me that time. But later he apologized for his rudeness. 2] The 30 oct blast was result of communal clash happened in August 2008 in Darrang. 3] Hagrama made conspiracy about that communal clash. It was intended to create problem for Ranjan Daimary of NDFB. Because Darrang was Ranjan Daimari's home place, where Hagrama has no hold. Hagrama did it for 2 cause. First to show Darrang living people, that Ranjan Daimary can't solve people's problem in his native place, then what is the value of him? And the 2nd cause was to prevent Ranjan Daimary to come to mainstream in future, even if he wishes too. If you compare both, you will find Ranjan Daimary is far more educated eligible than Hagrama. 4] Himanta thought if he take Hagrama with him, he can play the political drama in BTC as much as he wish. But it will not be happen with Ranjan Daimary. 5] Himanta and Hagrama gave the fuel to the communal clash of Darrang in August 2008. (Mind that, the prime issue was a marriage between a Bodo Girl a Muslim Boy, and the boy was conincidently my friend's friend and their marriage ceremony were held in January of the same year in a Marriage house of Zoo Tiniali of Guwahati). 6] After the communal clash, NDFB planned for more powerful return to give to Hagrama. To punish Hagrama politically in those places where Hagrama has his hold. So on, blast were happened in Hagrama's political areas. :) No hard feeling- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:17:03 +0800 From: jyotirmoy.sha...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister I find nothing wrong with the letter. I also find it amusing that being an Assamese in the BTC, one has to live like a second class citizen with no rights, representation. All happening when BTC is still a part of Assam. Let's not forget the fact that the Oct30 blast which was targetted against Assamese people. The targets were chosen to cause maximum harm. The perpetrators of the crime are hailed by Anjali Daimari ( a member of a Justice forum supporting human rights ). What about Hagrama Mohilary forming a coalition with the Cong Govt and openly supporting a breakup of Assam. JS ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Mr Borah, Agree with you. I am against all kind of separation. Regardless who are they. If Gohains and Brahmins insulted them, there Parag Kumar Das too who always stood with them in their problems. Don't forget it too. You are telling about other ethnic groups. I am against separation. This is sure. And I always trying as per my capability to prevent it. Just an example. In 2004, when I was new to Journalism, I did a serial report against Borno-Hindu Axomiya Domination in Axom Xahitya Xobha. I did several report against the then President Kanaksen Deka(though I am too a Deka :P). But my intention was to prevent this domination. Dr Paramananda Rajbangshi helped me in my report. In result Dr Rajbangshi was expelled for lifetime from Xahitya Xobha, by President Kanaksen Deka. All the reports are reserved as a BOOKLET in Xahitya Xobha's head office i.e. Jorhat. It was Dr Rajbangshi my try, which brought Rong Bong Terang to the President of Xahitya Xobha. Ask Dr Rajbangshi, if you have doubt on my say. I am not opposing the separation by only speech, but also practically. That is why I always use strong words against actless shouts. Without any practical act, no shouting can do anything. Again, no hard feeling. Still I believe for practical Act, not only discussion shouts. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:06:30 +0530 From: amarjyotibo...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org CC: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister Dear Mr. Borthakur, Deka and others, the internet is a tool which is very important, use it properly but please don't misuse it and try to create differences between the various communities residing in Assam. Read and learn Assam history before making statements. What do you mean by Bodos and Assamese? Don't you that Bodos are people who fall within the Greater Assamese Community. If you say that Bodos are not assamese, tomorrow the Mishing will say they are not Assamese, next the Nath community will say and one day it will be the Kalitas. What about the karbis? Will you say they are also not Assamese, in case you don't know let me tell you that the Present of the Asom Sahitya Sabha is a person belonging to the Karbi Community. Also I can bet he is much well versed in Asaamese than you and me. Regarding the Bodo people's anger, do you know how they are treated by members of the other communities in Assam. I have come across instanced when the Brahmins. Gohanis have told Boro people that it is a sin to drink water touched by a Bodo. So who should be blamed then. Think before writing. Amarjyoti Borah, Guwahati On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Borthakur, Before answering you, I again highlight what I said as major. The highlighted are in reds.Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on them, they shouts that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation of Darrang in August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic group Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as Assamese vs Bangladeshi. While the entire incident started from a marriage between a Muslim boy a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just jokers.Now say, whom I said Bull Shit? Hope people who has least sense of idea, can understand. This is you who is finding some other sense instead of real points.Nothing to say, who doesn't try to listen or understand, but only speaks.No hard feelings. Regards-Dhruba Jyoti DekaPS: About your say That day you were using strong language against those who you perceived did not respond to your call for setting up some sort of a web-site , I proudly want to say that I got single response from Chandan Mahanta Khura from this mailing list, and got few too young boys from Orkut for that mission. With Chandan Khura those youth's help we are going to start the Web Portal by August End. Those youth are not so financially efficient, just they get bellow 10K as salary, but their willingness and acts are great. May be this is bad news for you people, that I have got at least few people, with whom we(I+the others) are going to launch our desired web portal so soon. The brand name is Times of Assam. And the url is www.timesofassam.com Hope you people will also have a look after August(you can have look now too, but yet too input more contents). Again no hard feelings. Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:53:26 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister Dear D J Deka, There are agent provocateurs always trying to cause vertical divisions among people for their vote bank politics and thereby
Re: [Assam] Critical Thinking
Dear Sir, Conincidently, I know one Tejimola. One of my friend's wife's name is Tejimola. :) In villages, till these name exists few. But lots of parents, I think, fear to have this name for their child. Historic(though by old tales) tragedy. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:14:33 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Critical Thinking It is encouraging to see that some in Guwahati are realizing the importance of critcal thinking in developing a child's brain. The tradition of rote learning would fade if more of such activities are undertaken. When we read the Tejimola story in our young days, we had many questions that we didn't get to ask. The name Tejimola itself intrigued me - why no other girl was ever named Tejimola, where did the name come from. Dilip Deka ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Dear Borthakur, The Cell no of Dr Paramananda Rajbangshi(current Secretary of Xahitya Xobha) is 9864049782. And I would like you to give 2 add ons also which will help you to find out the truth. 1] Remind Mr Rajbangshi that you are referred by me(Dhruba Jyoti Deka, Reporter), to talk about the Reports about Axom Xahitya Xobha that were published in 2004, in AJI NATOON SOMOY. 2] Ask what result the report was able to bring out. Hope, you will not take it in negative sense. If you talk in proper manner to Dr Rajbangshi, I am confident you will find out the truth. Hope you willn't play it as to beat me. :P Again no hard feeling. P.S. Regardingg to Akhil Gogoi, I do not hesitate to say that yet I have not either meet him or talk to him. If you have enjoyed throwing this issue about Akhil Gogoi, then I am too happy to know that you are having some fun also here. -Regards Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:37:24 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: assam@assamnet.org; amarjyotibo...@gmail.com; dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Dear Sri D J Deka, Please send me Dr. Parama Nanda Rajbongshi's cell no. and e-mail address. Let me forward your mail to him. I got to verify how you made Srijut Rong Bong Terang the President with his help. I should take a leaf from your actions. Learning is continuous process and I am quite open to learning from anyone. If you do not believe in discussions, why are you here? It is only a mailing list. And in a mailing list, no body can possibly shout, can one do that? Since you are a person of action, as you are saying it a number of times, go and help Akhil Gogoi, he's doing much better things not being a self-proclaimed journalist, not being a member of a mailing list.. and in fact mailing lists, blogs are writing about him and his organistaion KMSS. Now don't tell me, you have made him what he's today and KMSS is your brain-child:-) Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Wed, 11/8/10, Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org, amarjyotibo...@gmail.com Cc: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Date: Wednesday, 11 August, 2010, 7:27 PM Dear Mr Borah, Agree with you. I am against all kind of separation. Regardless who are they. If Gohains and Brahmins insulted them, there Parag Kumar Das too who always stood with them in their problems. Don't forget it too. You are telling about other ethnic groups. I am against separation. This is sure. And I always trying as per my capability to prevent it. Just an example. In 2004, when I was new to Journalism, I did a serial report against Borno-Hindu Axomiya Domination in Axom Xahitya Xobha. I did several report against the then President Kanaksen Deka(though I am too a Deka :P). But my intention was to prevent this domination. Dr Paramananda Rajbangshi helped me in my report. In result Dr Rajbangshi was expelled for lifetime from Xahitya Xobha, by President Kanaksen Deka. All the reports are reserved as a BOOKLET in Xahitya Xobha's head office i.e. Jorhat. It was Dr Rajbangshi my try, which brought Rong Bong Terang to the President of Xahitya Xobha. Ask Dr Rajbangshi, if you have doubt on my say. I am not opposing the separation by only speech, but also practically. That is why I always use strong words against actless shouts. Without any practical act, no shouting can do anything. Again, no hard feeling. Still I believe for practical Act, not only discussion shouts. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:06:30 +0530 From: amarjyotibo...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org CC: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister Dear Mr. Borthakur, Deka and others, the internet is a tool which is very important, use it properly but please don't misuse it and try to create differences between the various communities residing in Assam. Read and learn Assam history before making statements. What do you mean by Bodos and Assamese? Don't you that Bodos are people who fall within the Greater Assamese Community. If you say that Bodos are not assamese, tomorrow the Mishing will say they are not Assamese, next the Nath community will say and one day it will be the Kalitas. What about the karbis? Will you say they are also not Assamese, in case you don't know let me tell you that the Present of the Asom Sahitya Sabha is a person belonging to the Karbi Community. Also I can bet he is much well versed in Asaamese than you and me. Regarding the Bodo people's anger, do you know how they are treated by members of the other communities in Assam. I have come across instanced when the Brahmins. Gohanis have told Boro people that it is a sin to drink water touched by a Bodo. So who should be blamed then. Think before
Re: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister
Just Bullshit. Down to ABSU. When disaster comes on them, they shouts that they are Assamese. Bull shit. Remember the situation of Darrang in August of 2008. There were communal clash between Bodo ethnic group Muslim. And what those Bodo claimed? They claimed it as Assamese vs Bangladeshi. While the entire incident started from a marriage between a Muslim boy a Bodo Girl, which turned into communal clash and resulted the 30 October, 2008 blast(Anybody want to ask me how?). Look at their character. When problems come, they become Assamese. They are just jokers. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:07:44 -0500 From: kjit.d...@gmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] An open letter to the Prime Minister In response to ABSU's recent demand for a separate Bodoland,An Assamese kharkhowa,inhabitant of Baksa district,wrote a letter addressed to the PM demanding a separate state for himself.Read and enjoy. KJD Dear Mr Prime Minister, I am 30 years old, fat, educated and I want my own state. To achieve this objective I have decided to proceed on a fast immediately... after my next masor tenga meal, that is. (Considering my body mass index and fondness for trans fats, I have deemed this the most apt way to protest.) I now intend to break bread only after my 2-bedroom flat in Baksa district,the heartland of Bodos, is declared a state. The state will be known as Kalita Pradesh and its capital will be Kalita nagar -- which is what I will name my living room. The official language will be heavily accented English spoken with a lisp. I have decided to go in for this drastic move after discrimination against me based on my language, appearance, superior intellect and personal hygiene. I request you to consider my case vis-a-vis ABSU's demand for a state exclusively for the Bodos. My state abounds in man-made and (cow-made) resources, including manure from my potted plants and state-of-the-art sanitary fittings. I intend to stand for CM and am confident that the residents -- my wife, my dog and the affectionate house mosquitoes -- will cast their vote in my favour. Mr Prime Minster, I appeal to you to consider my case at the earliest. After Bodoland,Kalita Pradesh would become India's 30th state (if Gorkhaland, Bundelkhand, Harit Pradesh etc don't beat me to it). Thirty is such a nice, round number, don't you think? Since you are handing states around, why not add one more? While we are at it, let me bring to your notice that my pan-wala, my dhobi and a rather irritable bull who sleeps on the middle of a neighbouring road, all want their own states. They all allege discrimination and are all threatening to go on fast. I appeal to you sir, let's break up this beautiful state,known as Assam since time immemorial, at the earliest. Words like unity has slipped into obsolescence. Why learn from the West. We don't care about Germany uniting or half of Europe becoming European Union. After all, we are the smartest race in the world. Let's have a new slogan: Be a Bodo,Kalita or Ahom first and break Assam into pieces. Sincerely, Biplob Kalita. ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam
The problem is that the all of Assamese media just wait for their own benifit to publish a news. I am also a Reporter since last 7 years, but I am fed up with the attitude of the Media. That is why I, along with 3/4 youth are going to start a News Portal (named Times of Assam URL: www.timesofassam.com) so that we can bring our these issues. We believe help is called help, when it is for helpless, and the helpless has nobody else to help him. We mailed almost 1 people, even you people too, about our initiative of Times of Assam with detail. But, sad to say, we recieved not a single response other than Chandan Mahanta khura. Taking few part through mailing list and giving the weekend time for this are not enough. All we need is practical initiative. And unfortunately, no practical initiative gets any kind of co-operation. Ask Mr Lakhyajit Deka, what best I tried and how I failed to help him and why I failed. He may not reveal all the thing, which will cause problem to many so-called noted fellows. Regards- Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 19:04:28 -0700 From: dilipd...@yahoo.com To: assam@assamnet.org; aryam...@gmail.com; assam...@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam Stay with the cause. Use people like Nava Thakuria for publicity if he is willing to help. The circle against corruption needs to grow. Democracy did not come to East Europe (e.g.Poland) in one day. Dilipda From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com To: aryama saikia aryam...@gmail.com; assam...@assamnet.org; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 10:49:05 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam I am always trying to help the said Lakhyajit Deka. I provided all documents to several media, almost 1 year and more before. But most of the media house were playing notorious instead of publishing the news. I still have the file which includes everything about IIE SCAM. Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 13:52:58 +0530 Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam From: aryam...@gmail.com To: dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com CC: uddip...@gmail.com Dear Mr. Deka, I am afraid I don't know of the history you are referring to. A friend of mine posted my message on a mailing list, and I think that's how you probably got my message. However, I completely understand what you are saying. We had faced similar situations in the past. I think it takes a few attempts to wake people up from their peaceful and convenient slumbers! Anyway, from what I understand from your email, we have a common goal. So, let's join hands to make a bigger impact. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. I will be more than happy to help your cause. Regards,Aryama On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Uddipana Goswami uddip...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org, activism-news-netw...@googlegroups.com, reader-l...@sarai.net Sorry, I am unable. I too asked for help few months before, mailing more than 10 times. Another 2 noted person also mailed to assamnet for the same help. But in return, no help found. So, I am silent today. Yesterday you were silent. Today I am silent. Learn from the historical saying. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:24:20 +0530 From: uddip...@gmail.com To: activism-news-netw...@googlegroups.com; reader-l...@sarai.net; assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam dear all, a group of independent, free-thinking individuals have come together under the banner of 'supporting akhil gogoi' to launch a series of programs against corrupt politicians and to popularize th RTI in assam. i have included a note from the founder of the group, aryama dutta saikia, below this mail. your support and solidarity will be greatly appreciated, thanks and regards, uddipana *PRESS RELEASE* *Events: Anti-Corruption Vigils* 1. Silent peaceful black Arm-band vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Jantar Mantar, New Delhi, Aug 8, 3 pm- 5 pm 2. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Near Dighali Pukhuri, Guwahati, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm 3. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Swahid Bhawan, Nagaon, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm 4. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Millennium Park, Jorhat, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm At the very outset, I would like to state
Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam
Uttamda, Please don't say so i.e. apologies. I am a village boy, who are till suffering from this evil society's notorious act. My father was also a honest officer and that is why he too suffered lots in his service life upto 3 target to kill my father. Being a son of such fellow, I felt like to help Mr Lakhyajit Deka, whatever extend I could do. But see, when I submitted all the documents to the print electronic(TV) media, they did nothing that moment. They are highlighting this issue now, because election is comming they can put some pressure on Govt(Congress) by this kind of news. It's Lakhyajit Deka's honesty that I had not suffered anything going to help him. Thanks word will be a insult for Mr L Deka, whatever he did to save me from the evil eyes while going to help him. Attention Lakhyajit Deka(if you are also in this list): What you say Boss? I am same what I was 2 years before. Still trying to punish those evil, mayn't be able to help u in your official directly. :) -Dhruba Jyoti Deka Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:08:46 +0530 From: uttambortha...@yahoo.co.in To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam My apologies Sri Dhrubajyoyi Deka. I got you wrong in the first place. I thought you were on the establishment side. Though media takes the coat of neutrality and of a prosecutor for people's cause, the media houses are owned by either rich middle class (print) or real rich (audio-visual). So, they will help you to the extent your interest merges with theirs. (like DY 365 projecting Akhil Gogoi to the detriment of Himanta Biswa Sarma, who often makes the snide remark that DY 365 is owned by an oil-thief). There are very revered people in such houses who use such material not for debunking corruption or other bad things, but for enriching themselves through blackmail. However, there are good people too in the reporting or in other echelon of such houses, and may be you had chosen the wrong guy. However, opportunities to fight corruption through a public platform is emerging in Assam; a collective fight may be more fruitful. This is for your consideration. Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com I am always trying to help the said Lakhyajit Deka. I provided all documents to several media, almost 1 year and more before. But most of the media house were playing notorious instead of publishing the news. I still have the file which includes everything about IIE SCAM. Uttam Kumar Borthakur ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel
Please stop publicity about Bhupen Hazarika. He is the most betrayer of Assam. I place 3 points. 1] In 1983, he sang Juye Pora 83 to bring Assamese youths for movement, but he never stood for Assamese people. Instead he always rubbed his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. 2] In 1988, he sang in the Udito Suruj. The album was sponspored by ULFA for their publicity through Cultural way. In that album, Hazarika sang along with Dr Suresh Phukan of Sivasagar. Later on, in 1990 Dr Suresh Phukan was arrested by Army for the album, but Hazarika was not. Hazarika again ran to rub his nose in the feet of Indian State Machine. Dr Suresh Phukan, getting betrayed by Crocodile tears salesman like Bhupen Hazarika, commited sucide in the custody of Army, at Gauhati Medical College Hospital. 3] Hazarika always comes to Assam, when he needs money, needs free treatment. When he gets these, he again leaves Assam. I object against any kind of mercy towards Bhupen Hazarika. And I am ready for all kind of controversy for it. All ready I have scold him twice in 2003 November and 2004 March. When he said Mor Jibonor Prothom Preyoxi aasil ejoni Bihari sowali while Assamese womans were raped by Bhirais in train at Bihar, and Bhupen Hazarika came to Assam to stop AAssamese extreeme sentiment, following the order of his lords(i.e. Indian State Machine). But he never showed his guts against the Indian State Machine. 3] Have ever Hazarika told Indian State Machine, Why you people are dominating us and killing our people? If Mamta Banarjee can oppose the Army Operation against Maoist in West Bengal, why cant Bhupen Hazarika oppose for the same happening in his motheerland for last 3 decades? From: rinikak...@hotmail.com To: assam@assamnet.org; assamsoci...@yahoogroups.com; assamfoundati...@yahoogroups.com; assam_in_bangal...@yahoogroups.com; northeastin...@yahoogroups.com; friendsofassa...@yahoogroups.com; itas...@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 16:03:26 + Subject: [Assam] CD songs: Rode Puabor Karone by Ruby Patel Dr.Bhupen Hazarika's Sangeet Kailas Patel Late Kailas Patel marrying into an Assamese family began to appreciate and admire musical culture of Assam. Eventually, Kailas with the collaboration of Dr. Bhupen Hazarika and his brothers and sisters produced a CD of songs with his wife Ruby titled ‘Nijaraparor Sur’. In his life time Kailas always wanted to capture the lilting tunes and lyrics of Assamese folk songs in records and tapes through which this rich musical heritage could be preserved. His untimely death deprived Assam of his desired contributions towards the preservation of Assamese cultural heritage. However, after elapse of time, Ruby Patel with her brothers and sisters and their third generation progeny collected Dr. Bhupen Hazarika’s popular choruses and recorded in their original tunes and music with the help of up and coming established talented musicians in a CD titled ‘Rode Puabor Karone’ (to bask in the sun) to fulfil Kailas’s dreams. The sale of proceeds of this CD will be partly donated to the Nilakanta Shatipriya Hazarika trust and managements of two Primary Schools of poverty stricken, unfortunate children of Panikhaity in Assam which have been managed by Ruby Patel for the last 3 years through contributions of generous public. We hope that the public will enjoy these songs and buy the CDs to help Ruby Patel for the worthy cause. Happy listening to ‘Rode Puabor Karone’. Here is the contact e-mail id of Ruby Patel : ku...@hotmail.com Rini Kakati ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam
I am always trying to help the said Lakhyajit Deka. I provided all documents to several media, almost 1 year and more before. But most of the media house were playing notorious instead of publishing the news. I still have the file which includes everything about IIE SCAM. Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 13:52:58 +0530 Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam From: aryam...@gmail.com To: dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com CC: uddip...@gmail.com Dear Mr. Deka, I am afraid I don't know of the history you are referring to. A friend of mine posted my message on a mailing list, and I think that's how you probably got my message. However, I completely understand what you are saying. We had faced similar situations in the past. I think it takes a few attempts to wake people up from their peaceful and convenient slumbers! Anyway, from what I understand from your email, we have a common goal. So, let's join hands to make a bigger impact. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. I will be more than happy to help your cause. Regards,Aryama On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Uddipana Goswami uddip...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka dhrubajyotid...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam To: assamnet org assam@assamnet.org, activism-news-netw...@googlegroups.com, reader-l...@sarai.net Sorry, I am unable. I too asked for help few months before, mailing more than 10 times. Another 2 noted person also mailed to assamnet for the same help. But in return, no help found. So, I am silent today. Yesterday you were silent. Today I am silent. Learn from the historical saying. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:24:20 +0530 From: uddip...@gmail.com To: activism-news-netw...@googlegroups.com; reader-l...@sarai.net; assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] help spread the news: action against corruption in assam dear all, a group of independent, free-thinking individuals have come together under the banner of 'supporting akhil gogoi' to launch a series of programs against corrupt politicians and to popularize th RTI in assam. i have included a note from the founder of the group, aryama dutta saikia, below this mail. your support and solidarity will be greatly appreciated, thanks and regards, uddipana *PRESS RELEASE* *Events: Anti-Corruption Vigils* 1. Silent peaceful black Arm-band vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Jantar Mantar, New Delhi, Aug 8, 3 pm- 5 pm 2. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Near Dighali Pukhuri, Guwahati, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm 3. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Swahid Bhawan, Nagaon, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm 4. Silent peaceful candlelight vigil to mourn the corruption in Assam: Millennium Park, Jorhat, Aug 8, 7 pm- 9 pm At the very outset, I would like to state that we have no political affiliations. We do not belong to any one common political party or organization. Then who are we? We are some of the educated youth of Assam who, till now, have remained silent spectators. It is not that we did not care about the situation in my country. It's just that we had given up. Then, why are we suddenly showing so much interest? Tough question! But let me try to explain it. There is no ONE specific moment. I guess it has been a build up over the years. For years, we have been taken for a ride by one political party after another. The politicians have looted us to such an extent that today Assam is one of the poorest states in India, while the politicians of Assam are probably some of the richest people in Assam. And, for years, we have been complaining about corruption and saying Why doesn't someone do something? We waited and waited and waited. But, that miraculous someone did not come to our rescue. In fact, every time a common man such as a Manjunath or a Satyendra Dubey emerges, the opposing forces drown his voice. It is unrealistic and unfair to expect one Akhil Gogoi to eradicate corruption in Assam. Why should it be a one man’s war? It is then that we realised that we- ALL of us -will have to be that someone who will have to do something. Afterall, it will be more difficult to drown the voices of a million people. The common man will now have to do something 'uncommon'. Now, a time has come when millions of common citizens like me are ready to stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. If we do not do that now, the next generation will never forgive us. Here, I quote from the Bhagvad Gita - The one who tolerates injustice is as guilty as the one who does injustice. We have decided to not take part in this injustice anymore. We are raising our voice against corruption in our beloved motherland, Assam. I had created the page Supporting Akhil
