Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Quite right. "Start now please" or "I want that game start" or "Why are we waiting?" or whatnot can seem grabby or demanding, and they might be, but they also might not be. I agree with you regarding the languages, I've seen it loads of times.But yeah. We don't know the sorts of demands he's been getting, and if they were intended as demands or simply an example of bad translation.Again though, if you see one of these things, you're not sure if it's a translation issue or whatnot, and it makes you a little annoyed? Totally fine. It gets my back up a little as well honestly. But there are just better ways to deal with it than to be spiteful. If it's in doubt, I tend to just wait and see what the person says afterword. Usually after two or three messages I've got a pretty good idea whether they're trying to be jerkish or just trying to ask a question and coming across in a manner they don't mean to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517448/#p517448 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games And TTs voices does people no justice at all. They can either make you sound as serious as a tyepe 5 hurricane when you want to be chill and casual, or calm and cool when you really mean to be serious. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517407/#p517407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Language barrier or not, jerkish behaviour is never acceptable. I am simply saying that sometimes, especially online, incorrect English usage can lead to an accidental appearance as rude, and that has to be considered. Bt that's speculation because we don't know exactly what kind of messages he's been getting. Can we fucking start? is unmistakable. But if someone just says the word start followed by a qestion mark, or "who start this game"? That may not be intended as rude, but can definitely appear so. This is something I have to explain very often to students I teach. Many languages express themselves in a way that, when translated into English, sounds very abrupt or aggressive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517404/#p517404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Okay, so I'm gonna add a voice of reason to this shit-show. Rather, I'm gonna try.So, DanGero, here's the thing:If I had opened a table or server or game or whatnot, and someone came in and started saying stuff like "start now" or "hurry the fuck up" or whatever, I'm probably going to either 1. ignore them outright or 2. tell them firmly but directly that they can either leave or wait, it's up to them. It's absolutely, 100% okay to be annoyed with rude or impatient people. That doesn't make you entitled. It makes you human. And if you stopped there, we wouldn't be having this discussion.But if you'd hold up a game just because someone is being rude to you, that's a classic example of two wrongs not making a right. What if you had three other people, two of whom were polite and one was rude? You're now punishing the polite ones for something they didn't do. Also, how does being petty in any way help others fix their behaviour?What you're doing is what I'm gonna call retributive justice. You piss me off, so now I'll punish you for it.Me, I'd rather do something rehabilitative, even if it's as simple as "Hey, you don't have to talk like that" or "I don't appreciate that". By all means, state your opinion on that if you want. It's not a crime to think people are jerks, because guess what? Many people are jerks.But being spiteful is not doing you any favours. Trying to pass it off on your ear infection isn't doing you any favours. Trying to defend yourself when you're already hip-deep in the mess you made? You get the picture.Now, with that having been said, I do want to say one thing:No matter how bad your English is, you should understand the difference between "please start soon", or "ur fuckin slow start now plz" or whatever. If you're being needlessly rude (read: not just impatient, but actually rude) then you are part of the problem. No excuses.So how about we all be a little bit kinder to one another? You folks, stop dogpiling this dude. And DanGero, please lighten up a little bit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517393/#p517393 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games sorry but i agree with the rest of the peoplethis thing is wierd and redicolous URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517284/#p517284 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games this topic is redicolous URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517284/#p517284 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Hi.At Op sorry, but I'm with the majority here, you sound like an entitled blind dude who doesn't get his way and the only opinion that counts is yours, sounds abit like cheef in tweat.Ironcross was right afterall, the only thing your trying to do is garner up atention.greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517273/#p517273 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games And @24? I logged in once, couldn't figure out what I was doing, then left. That was like three weeks ago. They say there's a help file for UA now; I'll have to chekc into that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517269/#p517269 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Majority's gonna rule here, because majority has been on both sides of the coin and majority is saying you're not listening to the other side. From what you're writing it sounds like your and your opinion alone should be listened to. But you know what? I'll answer the question really simplistically. Yes, I have been rushed to start an online game. No, I don't always do it. Sometimes the questioner leaves; sometimes they do not. sometimes I tell them to wait; sometimes I don't. What I do make sure of, however, is to try and treat them like they too, are a person. No, I don't always do that right, either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517267/#p517267 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Majority's gonna rule here, because majority has been on both sides of the coin and majority is saying you're not listening to the other side. From what you're writing it sounds like your and your opinion alone should be listened to. But you know what? I'll answer the question really simplistically. Yes, I have ben rushed to start an online game. No, I don't always do it. Sometimes the questioner leaves; sometimes they do not. sometimes I tell them to wait; sometimes I don't. What I do make sure of, however, is to try and treat them like they too, are a person. No, I don't always do that right, either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517267/#p517267 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games that happened to me sevrel times before, i ened up leaving the game for them or just ignoring them until they left, that's all, sence im not playing any more online games i haven't experienced such people in a while, but that's my disision anyway to not play online games any more URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517261/#p517261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : moaddye via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @1, tells me that I need to hurry up and start. A lot of these games don’t have a kick feature, or else I would have kicked those people out of my game and not allowed them to come back in ever again. I’m not going to cave in and do what they want because it’s my game, ergo, my rules. 1, A public online game, is everyone's domain. It's not your server, you're not running it and neither is anyone else. Well except for the developer. If you make your own server it probably would be more understandable. but public server/public game, equals for everyone.2, just be thankful you get players who want to play, or as 1000 posts have said and probably been ignored, tell them to wait for your whatever, because you can't start it without them. If cp had a ban feature, you'd probably ban every single person. Maybe they only have 15, 30 minutes for a quick game and they can't waist time because the next whatever time's gonna be real boring, or something like that. And also there could be that they don't know english very well and can't compose your 100 200 words needed message. If they're going hey man, start right now you f then you could retaliate or such nonsense, but if they just say can we start now? start please? or whatever then that is fine. at least by me. Just my opinion URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517206/#p517206 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetechguy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Agreed with the majority here. You sound entitled because you are not willing to listen to people. you could've just said, "hey. can we wait for a bit? I have a friend who wants to come on." There, simple, right? and remember that its just a game. nothing more, nothing less. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517180/#p517180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Dude, nobody is bossing you around. You can start a game if you want or you won't and you may tell them to wait for a little bit for your friend or whatever, the fact that you didn't choose the easy way out and instead came on this forum to complain shows a lot about you and what kind of a person you are. Can you just sit back for a second, and think that, maybe, it's not that the world revolves around you, you might just be drunk or might have been hit in the head or something? Just giving you advice here, do with this string of unicode characters whatever you please. BigGun signing out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517168/#p517168 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @25, sorry man. But it just looks like you're trying to play the victim here, and I don't see you making any attempts to be understanding about what others may be thinking. IF you want people to hear what you have to say, perhaps give a better indication that you can do just the same. Just a thought. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517135/#p517135 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Its not what you do. Its how. You made this topic. Cool. But the way you phrased your OP, and subsequent posts are what made you look, well, like an entitled jerk? You can't expect people, who are mostly 11 to 15 to be able to comunicate properly. You've really gotta put yourselves in the shoes of other people and try and be more simpathetic to others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517127/#p517127 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games I pointed out that I was sick because of this part of your above post.Have you heard there's this thing called corona going around? Did you know that hardly anyone exists who hasn't been affected by it? Has it ever crossed your mind that there are people who are scared out of their minds and trying to cope and don't exactly know how and don't have other people there to help them with it? What would it cost you to play a game with someone who's probably just as, if not more miserable than you are at present given the situation? This topic had nothing to do with me being sick, or the Coronavirus, but it seems like you're telling me that I should be nice because of this pandemic and what people are going through. Don't get me wrong, I definitely pity people who are affected by this situation and I have no ill will towards them, but just because there's a virus going around doesn't mean I'm just going to let people make demands of me to start the game. Could I have gotten over it and not made this topic. Sure, I guess I could have, but it was irritating me and I'm frustrated with people and I wanted it to stop. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517116/#p517116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Hey 23. Yesterday I saw you had an account over on Undead Asalt with 0 kills. Really? Come on! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517112/#p517112 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games I'm sorry, but a topic where you want to whine about personal self interests and gratification not being met is not going to fly, whoever you are. I may be Nocturnus... I may be able to get away with a many number of things...I don't know, and I don't care. What I do know is that if I were to create a topic bashing a community or select number of people just because they're pissing me off there'll be opposition and, no matter how sick I am, miserable I am or otherwise unwell I am I have no excuse to behave like a jerkwad to people just because they don't fit my personal little bubble. IN fact, I'd be willing to wager that most everyone would tell me to piss off for awhile until I am feeling better and can deal with the situation more effectively and reasonably? I find it interesting that 18 takes the original post and turns it into a pity party where previously it was just an issue of irritation; feel sorry for me because my games aren't going the way I want them to and all these people are in them and I don't like them being there because my friends are my friends and they are not my friends and why do they have to make my life harder!The point is simple, really: you can rant and rave and complain about the evils people do to you, but until you're willing to meet halfway down the line and expect that what you're doing might be seen as equally evil by the other side, until you're willing to accept that your views just might, might be even worse in some senses, don't expect anyone to either take you seriously or consider your views. They say that what goes around comes around, and attitudes when posting on a forum are just as much an action as any other.To prove my point, I'd just like to go on record by saying that I've been there far too often. When RS-Games Monopoly was first released I took issue with people just randomly joining my tables, particularly if all I wanted to do was play a game with someone else or even just enjoy a simple match against bots and I just didn't get to finish setting up the table before someone else got in on it. The same happened with QC. The only thing that would frustrate me more than people who randomly joined, were people who randomly left in the middle or right before losing, or who took a call and held up the game as a result of it and sometimes just flat out forgot about it.But that's just the way of things when you deal with people! For every public TT server you create you'll find people who lurk for whatever reason best known to themselves and who never say a word and thus make you feel awkward, or people who burst in with super loud audio and don't care, or people with even greater malice who just want to make conversation impossible. The point still stands all the same. When you choose to fight fire with fire, you're gonna get burned. I could have easily swallowed a topic that asked for advice on this subject given that I've obviously been in the same situation, rather than come in here, guns blazing with an entitled mindset. Yes, the question was posed but it was posed with less than a will to understand the other side. It's all me me me talk. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517107/#p517107 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @op:Online games aren't just about playing games. You need social skills. In a way, when you're hosting or administrating a game, you have to be willing to moderate. Not nearly on the scope of moderating a big forum like this, but you do have to be a moderator, and that requires you to be cognizant of the fact that you get all types of players. Some take extra time to write long messages with decent grammar and that period at the end of every message to give the proper ending to a sentence, while others write nearly illegible messages. Some like to wait around to see if players come in. Others just want to play. Some speak English well, others don't speak it at all. And some are just assholes. Of course, the name asshole is entirely subjective, but undoubtedly everyone is going to find their own group of assholes online.My point here is that you can't moderate all these types by trying to get them to your turf. Especially not on a public server. You're on public turf, so to speak. You have your own section of turf, and can enforce your own rules eg. when you start, how many games you play, whether you do teams or not etc. but by playing on public turf, you are going to be receptive to public opinion, and that includes opinions which aren't necessarily polite. Of course, you have the right and necessity to filter which opinions you consider, and of course you don't have to bow down to every request, but you do need to be conscientious about the wants of the people you're interacting with, and be able to spot patterns so that you will know in the future if you are making popular or unpopular choices. Making unpopular choices and sticking to them because that's just how you roll is going to come back to bite if you aren't careful. It's selfish, and yeah we all need to be a little selfish sometimes, but like I say you have to be careful.The solution is communicate, compromise and prioritize. Communicate to your players that you want to wait, and let them communicate back. Consider whether doing what they want would really be so bad for you. If not, then just do it, even if it goes against your original plan. Besides, it's just a game and I think that's all too easy to forget. Compromise so that everyone gets a little of what they want, including yourself. If you want to wait 5 minutes and people are getting impatient after 3, then you might as well just start especially if nothing is happening. And prioritize so you know the things you aren't so picky on, and the ones you are. eg. If you absolutely hate playing with only 1 other person, allow yourself to stick to that as much as possible, and politely, not rudely, make it known. If someone is becoming persistent, you have a right to quietly deal with the situation by ignoring, kicking etc. But if the same situation is happening repeatedly, try to reassess those three points: communicate, compromise and prioritize. One of them is surely lacking, and the situation isn't going to improve if you develop a superiority complex.I haven't hosted any games on CP yet, and it's for precisely the above reasons that I am afraid to. I don't think I'd be able to handle the different types of players well without getting frustrated like you are. However if things got really annoying for me, I probably would just close the game in a silent fit of irritation and leave it be for a while, and maybe that's what you need to do. By continuing to vent here, you're increasing the possibility of attracting people who would, no doubt, deliberately connect to your server with less of an intention to play and more of an intention to piss you off because they know how to bate you. Judging by the level of frustration I am reading in your words, and in prior posts of your's, I'd say this is a real possibility, but I'm no psychologist so I could be way off the mark, and I hope I am. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517036/#p517036 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @op:Online games aren't just about playing games. You need social skills. In a way, when you're hosting or administrating a game, you have to be willing to moderate. Not nearly on the scope of moderating a big forum like this, but you do have to be a moderator, and that requires you to be cognizant of the fact that you get all types of players. Some take extra time to write long messages with decent grammar and that period at the end of every message to give the proper ending to a sentence, while others write nearly illegible messages. Some like to wait around to see if players come in. Others just want to play. Some speak English well, others don't speak it at all. And some are just assholes. Of course, the name asshole is entirely subjective, but undoubtedly everyone is going to find their own group of assholes online. But my point here is that you can't moderate all these types by trying to get them to your turf. Especially not on a public server. You're on public turf, so to speak. You have your own section of turf, and can enforce your own rules eg. when you start, how many games you play, whether you do teams or not etc. but by playing on public turf, you are going to be receptive to public opinion, and that includes opinions which aren't necessarily polite. Of course, you have the right and necessity to filter which opinions you consider, and of course you don't have to bow down to every request, but you do need to be conscientious about the wants of the people you're interacting with, and be able to spot patterns so that you will know in the future if you are making popular or unpopular choices. Making unpopular choices and sticking to them because that's just how you roll is going to come back to bite if you aren't careful. It's selfish, and yeah we all need to be a little selfish sometimes, but like I say you have to be careful.The solution is communicate, compromise and prioritize. Communicate to your players that you want to wait, and let them communicate back. Consider whether doing what they want would really be so bad for you. If not, then just do it, even if it goes against your original plan. Besides, it's just a game and I think that's all too easy to forget. Compromise so that everyone gets a little of what they want, including yourself. If you want to wait 5 minutes and people are getting impatient after 3, then you might as well just start especially if nothing is happening. And prioritize so you know the things you aren't so picky on, and the ones you are. eg. If you absolutely hate playing with only 1 other person, allow yourself to stick to that as much as possible, and politely, not rudely, make it known. If someone is becoming persistent, you have a right to quietly deal with the situation by ignoring, kicking etc. But it doesn't look good on your part by coming in here with a superiority complex.I haven't hosted any games on CP yet, and it's for precisely the above reasons that I am afraid to. I don't think I'd be able to handle the different types of players well without getting frustrated like you are. However if things got really annoying for me, I probably would just close the game in a silent fit of irritation and leave it be for a while, and maybe that's what you need to do. By continuing to vent here, you're increasing the possibility of attracting people who would, no doubt, deliberately connect to your server with less of an intention to play and more of an intention to piss you off because they know how to bate you. Judging by the level of frustration I am reading in your words, and in prior posts of your's, I'd say this is a real possibility, but I'm no psychologist so I could be way off the mark, and I hope I am. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517036/#p517036 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @op:Online games aren't just about playing games. You need social skills. In a way, when you're hosting or administrating a game, you have to be willing to moderate. Not nearly on the scope of moderating a big forum like this, but you do have to be a moderator, and that requires you to be cognizant of the fact that you get all types of players. Some take extra time to write long messages with decent grammar and that period at the end of every message to give the proper ending to a sentence, while others write nearly illegible messages. Some like to wait around to see if players come in. Others just want to play. Some speak English well, others don't speak it at all. And some are just assholes. Of course, the name asshole is entirely subjective, but undoubtedly everyone is going to find their own group of assholes online. But my point here is that you can't moderate all these types by trying to get them to your turf. Especially not on a public server. You're on public turf, so to speak. You have your own section of turf, and can enforce your own rules eg. when you start, how many games you play, whether you do teams or not etc. but by playing on public turf, you are going to be receptive to public opinion, and that includes opinions which aren't necessarily polite. Of course, you have the right and necessity to filter which opinions you consider, and of course you don't have to bow down to every request, but you do need to be conscientious about the wants of the people you're interacting with, and be able to spot patterns so that you will know in the future if you are making popular or unpopular choices. Making unpopular choices and sticking to them because that's just how you roll is going to come back to bite if you aren't careful. It's selfish, and yeah we all need to be a little selfish sometimes, but like I say you have to be careful. The solution is compromise and prioritize. Compromise so that everyone gets a little of what they want, including yourself. And prioritize so you know the things you aren't so picky on, and the ones you are.I haven't hosted any games on CP yet, and it's for precisely the above reasons that I am afraid to. I don't think I'd be able to handle the different types of players well without getting frustrated like you are. However if things got really annoying for me, I probably would just close the game in a silent fit of irritation and leave it be for a while, and maybe that's what you need to do. By continuing to vent here, you're increasing the possibility of attracting people who would, no doubt, deliberately connect to your server with less of an intention to play and more of an intention to piss you off because they know how to bate you. Judging by the level of frustration I am reading in your words, and in prior posts of your's, I'd say this is a real possibility, but I'm no psychologist so I could be way off the mark, and I hope I am. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517036/#p517036 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games What ticked me off was the fact that he literally said he'd keep the game from starting longer just out of spite. I want you to look at my signature. By you doing those dicky, stupid, jerky things you're no better than they are. You have to understand that what you may see as normal, how things should be done, other people don't have the same ideals or opinions as you. And for Undead Assalt, most people only wwanna kill zombies. of course they'd rush. Yesterday I was playing with a guy named 0. I told him I was waitig for someone, and he understood. A couple seconds before my friend arrived, Zero had some stuff to do. I told my friend, and everyone was cool. It may just be better to preemptively tell people you're waiting on someone, so they have the option of waiting or leaving. Don't have people there sitting. Of course they'll start rushing. If you want people to show you curtesy show them some as well. Because what you said pretty much turned me off there. That's some jerky ass shit right there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517034/#p517034 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Veljko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games I don't see why this is such a big deal. If the person tells you to start, you tell them you're waiting for someone to join and you're not ready. If they don't like it they are free to leave. I don't see the problem here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517022/#p517022 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games yeah, people went a bit harsh. he was just putting up his opinions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517019/#p517019 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Guess what guys? I'm sick right now too. I've got a really nasty ear infection that won't go away. I can't go to the doctor and have them look at me, because I don't know if it's going to develop into something worse and I don't want to catch anything worse by going into the doctors office. I'm also frustrated because people are still panic buying and making it hard for me to get stuff from the store. Do you see me rushing people telling them to hurry up and start? No, you don't, because sick or not it would make me look like an ass if I did. Truth be told, I don't even like playing games with a lot of people outside of my group of friends anyway. If I could make a private game in every single online game out there, believe me when I say that I would. I've learned to start doing that with Undead Assault, because there are times when my other 3 friends and I want to play a game, and someone jumps in and takes the last slot and won't leave when we ask them to. Unfortunately, Undead Assault has this little glitch where some people can't make a private game because others won't be able to join, so a lot of times we don't really have a choice but to make it public. My point in saying this is that a lot of times, I don't like playing with others, and they come waltzing in and start demanding me to do things when I didn't even want them there in the first place. What do you expect me to do if I don't really have a choice but to make a game public? Also, those long formal messages I wrote above were just examples. I'm not expecting people to write a novel, I just expect them to be nice. I know there are some people who may not speak English that well, but I'm pretty sure everyone knows what the word please means. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517017/#p517017 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games When I join a game and it doesn't start straight away, I just start chatting a bit to find out what's going on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516972/#p516972 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @Dan_Gero, I think you've forgotten something, and it's rather simple: whether you like it or not, these people you are bothered by are also people, just as much as you are a person. If you are going to host a public game, on a public server, where people publically congragate, you've honestly lost the right to dictate how those games should go for two rather straightforward reasons.1. The server you are playing on, is not yours.2. The people who are on that server have the right to play too, just as much as you do.Honestly, man, I know this is going to come across as blistering and I hope it hits home even if it offends you, which is not something I ever say lightly, but I'm sincerely sickened by the fact that you created this topic given another monumental reason. Have you heard there's this thing called corona going around? Did you know that hardly anyone exists who hasn't been affected by it? Has it ever crossed your mind that there are people who are scared out of their minds and trying to cope and don't exactly know how and don't have other people there to help them with it? What would it cost you to play a game with someone who's probably just as, if not more miserable than you are at present given the situation? Why all the hate? Why all the anger? Why all the negativity at a time when you yourself could be a leading voice in the other direction? If you don't want to be around other people just because they don't have names you're familiar with, voices you're familiar with or personalities that fit your cooky-cutter mold, please do yourself and the rest of us a favor and kindly bow out; the world will continue with or without you, we promise.And no, I'm not doing it perfectly either. I'd like to point out to anyone who may or may not see me publically on a game that I'm sorry if I haven't been patient enough with you, been able to properly communicate with you or otherwise done something that might have upset you. I promise to try harder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516588/#p516588 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games So you made this thread because some people used an imperative form of a verb instead of formally asking you with long messages? And you call other people entitled? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516523/#p516523 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Both messages you posted are way too long for any sort of online gaming communication. lol Andremember that in many cases, the people who you are playing with also probably don't speak English. So can we start may sound rude to you, but that may be the only way they know to as the question. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516514/#p516514 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games You holding up the game longer for spite just because somebody asked to start is a hella jerky move on your part. I really don't care, but by you doing that yule just make the problem wworse.My advice? Just ignore them. Don't listen to them, and in pretty much all the games you mentioned, there's a way to mute chats, so they're sollutions to your problems. Don't make a scene out of nothing man. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516507/#p516507 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games BigGun, I made this thread after about the 10th time of having to tell people to wait. God forbid they must sit and wait another 5-6 minutes for a game that nobody demanded them to join at gunpoint. Also, you can host a private SERVER with Crazy Party, not a private GAME. I don’t even know if I’m able to host private servers, so this isn’t really an option.assault_freak, I completely understand where you’re coming from. Here’s the thing though, right? They could have said something like Hey, is anyone else coming in? or Hey, I’m not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I’ve got an appointment in about 10 minutes. Is it possible that we could try to start the game at your earliest convenience? I’d very much like to play with you guys. There’re better ways of talking to me than demanding me to do something, and the only thing you’re going to accomplish out of that is either us ultimately deciding to hold the game up longer intentionally, or me kicking you out of the game if that option is available to me. I don’t particularly enjoy bossing people around and I’m willing to accommodate you if you talk nicely, but if you’re going to demand me to do something, I won’t take very kindly to it. Don’t be an ass to me, and I won’t be an ass to you. I don’t know why that concept is so hard for certain people to comprehend, but it’s really that simple. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516504/#p516504 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games A few minutes? Sorry that's a lot, I usually join a game whenever ı immediately want to play, so I expect the host to start in like 30 seconds, unless they tell me they're waiting on someone else or they have something to do, then I will be understanding and either leave or wait with them if I have time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516502/#p516502 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games @7, the understanding goes both ways. If you play with people online, as soon as you create a public game, then it's public. It's not your game anymore.. things like starting, rounds, all that have to be determined by everybody. Just because you created the session doesn't mean you get to lord it over anyone else, unless it's private. But there again, telling people tey need to do everything by your rules or get out is probably not going to make a lot of people want to play with you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516493/#p516493 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games First, pretty sure you can host private servers on crazy party. Second, I love how you talk about other people being entitled and getting everything that they want when you're literally right now complaining about people asking you to start a fucking game. You could have told them that you were waiting for a friend, waiting for more players, literally anything, but you instead made this thread. Also hosting a game doesn't give you god-like powers, you still have to think about other people's thoughts and requests. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516489/#p516489 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Just keep it simple and to the point."I am waiting on something/someone and if you rather not wait fore on/me you may leave" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516484/#p516484 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games No BigGun, you can't make private games in a lot of games, i.e., Crazy Party. Sorry, but I'm not going to start a game just because someone wants me to right away. On the other side of the coin, if you’re going to rush someone to start the game on your terms, chances are you're entitled and have things handed to you on a silver platter whenever you want it. I'm not going to tolerate that, and I know many other people wouldn't either. You chose to join someone's game, so you're going to sit there and wait until the person is ready. If you can't bear to wait a few minutes, then you can just leave. It's really that simple. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516481/#p516481 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games I agree with #5. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516479/#p516479 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BigGun via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games The reason people say thinks such as "go", "start", etc is so that they can see if you're still at the keyboard and not absent. Trust me many times in online games you can have people starting a game, waiting for a while, then switching windows and never checking back.Also if people asking you to start the game and not wanting to wait for your friend is so bothering to you then it might be that you can't handle normal interactions on the internet outside of your little social circle and should have just made a private game. Pretty sure that's possible in most online games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516474/#p516474 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Meatbag via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games excuse me, but that's not the way I ment, I ment start gently untill you se the other guy wont listen to you, then start to be rood, trust me, that's the best way to stop spammers, and also, i'm just saying my apinnion here, and I pay full respect to any other apinnions URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516472/#p516472 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zenothrax via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Meatbag, don't you think that's a bit rude? I understand what Dan is getting at here, it's happened to me on more than one occasion, but telling someone to "shut the fuck up" or even insulting them because they rush you to start the game early is not exactly the best way to get your point across. What ever happened to the golden rule, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" I mean, if you want to insult someone because you feel that it's your right because you live in a free country, then go ahead, but it's not exactly the best course of action IMHO. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516469/#p516469 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Meatbag via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games my only advise is, be meankindly ask them to shut up ferst, sloly asending up to insults, if they did not listen to all of it just tell them that there annoying and eather shut the fuck up or leave, they nead to know that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516448/#p516448 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Do You Guys Ever Get Rushed to Start in Online Games Surely, I’m not the only one who’s bothered by this. Have you guys ever had a game up on an online game, perhaps RS Games or Undead Assault, and someone comes into your game and starts telling you what to do. All too often I have a game up and I’m waiting for someone, but then another player joins my game and tells me that I need to hurry up and start. A lot of these games don’t have a kick feature, or else I would have kicked those people out of my game and not allowed them to come back in ever again. I’m not going to cave in and do what they want because it’s my game, ergo, my rules. Do you guys have any other ideas as to how to get these people to shut up? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516446/#p516446 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
