Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well, I guess it's about priorities. A little thing like an annoying screen reader bug (which I can spend hours bitching about, naturally) pales to the nonsense MS is doing, at least for me, and yes I generally do have patience. And of course there is always the ever-present robustness of the platform itself, which is just wonderful, and puts the whole issue of screen reading into perspective. But you're right, the flip side of that coin is that, irrespective of the technical demerit of Windows screen readers (another thing I can spend hours ranting about) they do at least provide adequate accessibility to the platform to get most things done very efficiently. That is pretty deserving of praise all by itself, given the means they use to do that, but it doesn't distract from the ugliness. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258408#p258408 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well, I guess it's about priorities. A little thing like an annoying screen reader bug (which I can spend hours bitching about, naturally) pales to the nonsense MS is doing, at least for me, and yes I generally do have patience. And of course there is always the ever-present robustness of the platform itself, which is just wonderful, and puts the whole issue of screen reading into perspective. But you're right, the flip side of that coin is that, irrespective of the technical demerit of Windows screen readers (another thing I can spend hours ranting about) they do at least provide adequate accessibility to the platform to get most things done. That is pretty deserving of praise all by itself, given the means they use to do that, but it doesn't distract from the ugliness. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258408#p258408 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yeah, bugs like this are also part of the reason I don't use OS X regularly. I don't know what it is exactly but it seems like even with all the bullshit MS has been cramming into Windows the screen reader experience is still much, much smoother. Or maybe I just lack patience. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258406#p258406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Activities. They broke 'em badly on El Capitan. They were already a bit flaky on Yosemite, but on El Cap they are nearly unusable because the activity is not switching when you switch apps, at least for me with an activity used for Safari. That and the other silly El Cap bugs, like the Safari text editing malarkey. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258405#p258405 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Activities. They brokem 'em badly on El Capitan. They were already a bit flaky on Yosemite, but on El Cap they are nearly unusable because the activity is not switching when you switch apps, at least for me with an activity used for Safari. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258405#p258405 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Why the downgrade to Yosemite? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258397#p258397 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I didn't disable the sounds in El Cap; seemed fast enough for me, at least with Alex. On yosemite it's definitely slower, but I've got used to it after downgrading but leaving the sounds on. I think they provide vital info you can't lose, but I understand your desire to get them out of the way for speed reasons. And the Tab key usually moves pretty consistently, so give that a try. You can also use hotspots and the Find command. Read the VO help and try stuff out. If you haven't already yet, read the "Getting Started" manual, which covers most of the important stuff.I posted a zip of my Yosemite and El Cap VO preferences here. The one without "Yosemite" in the name is, of course, the El Cap one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258395#p258395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I didn't disable the sounds in El Cap; seemed fast enough for me, at least with Alex. On yosemite it's definitely slower, but I've got used to it after downgrading but leaving the sounds on. I think they provide vital info you can't lose, but I understand your desire to get them out of the way for speed reasons. And the Tab key usually moves pretty consistently, so give that a try. You can also use hotspots and the Find command. Read the VO help and try stuff out. If you haven't already yet, read the "Getting Started" manual, which covers most of the important stuff.I posted a zip of my Yosemite and El Cap VO preferences here. The one without "Yosemite" in the name is, of course, the El Cap one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258395#p258395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well yeah if you've got any tips to reduce latency I'd appreciate it (already disabled the sounds of course) but I guess I just value sheer speed and smoothness more. I also really don't like having to step through every element on the screen to get where I want to go when exploring; it seems like I have to focus more on where things are rather than getting things done. And sometimes focus isn't where I expect it do be when using quicknav, I'm assuming that's a bug in Voiceover. But sure if you want to send them I'll see if it works any better. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258392#p258392 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well yeah, different spokes for different folks and all that. I can't disagree with your conclusions if you're sure you can't improve on your situation. OS X works for me because I think, for now at least, that the robustness more than compensates for the frustrations in the accessibility. Most of my issues come to bugs and sometimes speed, although I personally appreciate the way navigation works better (because it gives you a nice overview of the screen layout). Likewise I actually quite prefer the ChromeVox keystrokes. It bugs me that Windows screen readers are essentially single-focus, which just strikes me as lame, even though they generally perform better and get the job done, kinda. But yeah, in the end it's about taste.As always, I'm happy to answer questions. If you'd like me to send you my Yosemite or El Capitan preferences for a last-ditch effort, let me know. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258323#p258323 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I have all that set up, it just seems that no matter what I do VO is way too verbose and not as responsive as NVDA is under Windows. There are tiny delays when using quick keys or trackpad gestures that annoy me to no end, and Voiceover navigation just seems inefficient to me; I know it's supposed to be faster as you can skip past elements like toolbars you don't want to examine by not interacting with them and it's nice in theory, but it just doesn't do enough for me in practice. And Safari is far from the only app I have issues with. Dito with Chromevox, it's just way, way too inefficient for me. Like I said I really want to like OS X, I really do. It's fast, it's Unix-based, it's optomized for my hardware, it has system-wide spell checking and dictation, and so much more awesomeness...but I just can't deal with Voiceover as a primary screen reader. Maybe if there was a native Eloquence port for OS X there wouldn't be responsiven ess issues, but that's obviously never happening. Plus Firefox has some add-ons I really like, so one more reason I don't want to switch to Safari. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258304#p258304 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @Wanderer: You can set up Safari to have keys in Safari that behave in like windows screenreaders do, and set Safari up so you can tab through links. Or , use chrome and Chromevox, because that's a good and fast browser as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258302#p258302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I really want to like OS X and I think I've given it a fair chance but I just can't. There are little delays when using quick navigation keys in Safari that just aren't there on Windows, and I really don't like the way you're forced to navigate element by element. I'll boot to OS X if I'm on battery and want to play a lot of media or something as the battery life is a bit better than Windows, but there are too many issues that keep me from adopting it as my primary system. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258292#p258292 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Windows 10 the new XP? Erm, nah. Not unless you like constantly looking over your shoulder for the next incoming arrow of misfortune, anyway. And then there's all the privacy concerns, of course. No, I'll stay on 8.1 thanks--most of what's good about 10, and just use Classic Shell to cover up the ugliness. OS X is (at the moment, anyway) my primary system. I use Windows only when I absolutely have to.PAE is an X86 memory model. It lets you map more than 4 GB of physical memory in the system. Most CPUs support it.Finally, regarding processor support, it's Skylake or better that are exclusive to Win10. People with Broadwell or less are fine; if you have a Skylake CPU, you get discarded if you're on 7/8.1 some time in 2018. After that time, you only get security-related fixes, so if you want Win7/8.1 to run to full potential you should stick to anything less than Skylake. See this for a good explanation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258244#p258244 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I'm guessing that unless there are fundamental changes to the X86 archetecture with those processors older versions of Windows will still run on them, they just won't be able to take advantage of features like virtualization, power management and encryption. So more of a concern if it's a laptop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258015#p258015 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. hi,to clarify processor support, all processors, including skylake will be supported until the end of support dates of windows 7 and 8.1. However, processors higher than skylake will not be supported at all. these processors will require win10. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258008#p258008 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. It may be a fast operating system, but it sure as hell ain't the new xp. Not until the adware and the trackers in telemetry get removed. Plus, it's a bit more mobile now considering that there is now an app market, windows phone and even xbox1 are all based on this windows 10 foundation. It's not the xp we know and love. Sure, it's better than 8, 8.1 but not quite xp. As far as compatibility is concerned, though, I will agree it is a very fast-running operating system that can run on anything from a virtual machine to any system running 7 or above. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258000#p258000 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. It may be a fast operating system, but it sure as hell ain't the new xp. Not until the adware and the trackers in telemetry get removed. Plus, it's a bit more mobile now considering that there is now an app market, windows phone and even xbox1 are all based on this windows 10 foundation. It's not the xp we know and love. Sure, it's better than 8, 8.1 but not quite xp. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258000#p258000 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Those Intel processor names are meaningless to me. Until I got this Dell laptop all my systems used AMD processors by choice. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257999#p257999 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Starting with Windows 8 PAE is required for 32-bit processors; I had an older machine that wouldn't run anything past 7 because of this. But unless it's really old that probably won't be an issue. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257978#p257978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. And don't forget, Microsoft themselves said that Windows 10 would run on almost anything that could run Windows 7 or 8 and I believe that Windows 7 only specified a minimum clock speed as the minimum system requirement for the processor.Yup, here are the system requirements from Microsoft:For Windows 7:• 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor• 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)• 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)• DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driverThe system requirements for Windows 10 are pretty much the same as for Windows 7.In my opinion, anyone that says you need something with a fairly current processor is just trying to sell you something you may not need. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257968#p257968 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. windows10 is great! its very fast like xp. the computer's fan hardly runs. it takes up about 12gigs for a clean install. and if you cloan your old magnetic platter hard drive to a solid state drive ssd 250gig ssd for $60 and $5 for usb to sata cable... well if you do that your computer will run super super fast! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257958#p257958 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. no you are wrong. windows10 runs on both my 6 and 7 year old laptops just fine. in fact it runs even better than windows7 ever did! i think windows10 is the new xp. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257956#p257956 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Windows 8.1? No thanks. If I upgrade past Windows 7, I'll go to Windows 10. While wishing I could go back to Windows XP or even Windows 2000! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257913#p257913 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. You might find it worthwhile to upgrade that laptop to at least 8.1 if you don't like 10; it's actually a bit faster than 7 and automatically cleans old components when they are superseded by updates, so Windows (theoretically) won't get bigger and bigger over time as 7 does. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257888#p257888 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. My Dell Latitude D830 has an Intel Core2 Duo processor which is pretty old, I'm currently running Windows 7 but already know that Windows 10 will run on it too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257870#p257870 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yeah, Haswell or better will stop being supported in 2017, I think it is. So people wishing to stay on 7/8/8.1 had better get themselves rigs with Broadwell or less if they wish to keep running those OSs until 2020 (for 7) and 2023 (for 8.1).Yep, Win2000 was all kinds of awesome. It didn't have the best hardware compatibility record, but my God, fast, stable, and kicked arse all the time. It was, after all, a professional workstation operating system--what more is there to say, really? When Windows XP came out, my old Pentium II 400 MHz struggled to run it, but because the screen readers now all supported the NT family, it became feasible for me to downgrade to 2K, which I duly did. That old machine was a server from that day, in 2001, to 2012 when I had to forcibly retire it, running Linux. Happy days, happy days ...I suppose there is one saving grace: Windows 8 actually toned down the processor usage, to accommodate mobile devices, but trimming the window mana gement to fit with the flat ethic. All the Win7 and Vista users got into a tizzy because they couldn't see through windows any more. FFS. But it was not and will never be a match for the pro workstations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257861#p257861 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yeah, Haswell or better will stop being supported in 2017, I think it is. So people wishing to stay on 7/8/8.1 had better get themselves rigs with Broadwell or less if they wish to keep running those OSs until 2020 (for 7) and 2023 (for 8.1).Yep, Win2000 was all kinds of awesome. It didn't have the best hardware compatibility record, but my God, fast, stable, and kicked arse all the time. It was, after all, a professional workstation operating system--what more is there to say, really? When Windows XP came out, my old Pentium II 400 MHz struggled to run it, but because the screen readers now all supported the NT family, it became feasible for me to downgrade to 2K, which I duly did. That old machine was a server from that day, in 2001, to 2012 when I had to forcibly retire it, running Linux. Happy days, happy days ...I suppose there is one saving grace: Windows 8 actually toned down the processor usage, to accommodate mobile devices, but trimming the window mana gement to fit with the flat ethic. All the Win7 and Vista users got into a tizzy because they couldn't see through windows any more. FFS. But it was and will never be a match for the pro workstations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257861#p257861 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. hi,FYİ, microsoft continues to support old processors for 10. Any processor that ran vista will run 10. However, for older operating systems, microsoft will no longer support the newer amd processor line and the upcoming intel cannonlake processors. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257854#p257854 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Oh yeah! I often wish that XP was still the defacto standard version of Windows. Even better would be Windows 2000! That was a lean and mean operating system. It had no eye or ear candy, was super stable, could play games, and was very fast, and could fit on half a CD and only needed 256MB to run.Even before I lost my vision I didn't like all the eye candy Microsoft was putting in Windows. To me a computer is a tool, it doesn't need to win any beauty contests, it just needs to be functional. So starting with Windows XP almost the first thing I do after installing Windows is to set the theme to Windows Classic. In XP I even whent so far as to disable the theme service after setting the theme to Windows Classic so the theme couldn't be changed. If it had been possible, I'd have removed all the theme crap.Something I discovered is that the code base that makes up Windows hasn't really gotten that much larger since Windows XP, the reason Windows Vista and later need a DVD instead of a CD as XP and earlier could fit on is because of the giggabytes of graphics and audio data that is needed to support the newer skinned user interfaces full of useless eye and ear candy.As far as I'm concerned,, all that eye and ear candy is just a useless and shameful waste of processor power. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257793#p257793 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Apparently, Windows 10 will only run on newer processors. I can't speak for other processors like AMD, but Microsoft is apparently tired of supporting old intel processors and won't make Windows work with them. I heard that 7 would not be supported on the new Skylake processors or anything newer. I don't know if this is true or if I even have it completely correct. I have one foot in Windows land for games, but that's about it. I will show no interest until we have a talking installer and Narrator substantially improves. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257775#p257775 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yep, basically what Chris said.Win7 is the new XP basically because people are sticking with the worst of a bad bunch. I agree, Vista service pack 2. Better to move to Win8.1 with Classic Shell; then you can get everything Windows has to offer. Only it's still Windows ...XP is old and obsolete, but it still works. It won't die, because for a lot of people it still manages to tick all the boxes. All these intentional XP refuseniks have simply concluded that there is nothing in yonder Windows upgrade direction. Developers are tired of supporting XP's antiquated APIs, and are simply forcibly removing support for it, following Google's lead. I don't blame them at all, but given that XP is still filling a need for some people, I'd say it was rather unfortunate. I wonder how long Firefox will hold out.Apple obsolete operating systems faster because back-compatibility isn't the same priority it is in the WinTel world. Yes, there wer e more releases, and yes, those releases were tied to certain hardware, at the earliest, which means that new hardware pushes you onto a new release. But ultimately, Apple are simply quite ruthless in dropping obsolete software. They don't want to be lumbered with supporting it. In the case of OS X (or MacOS) that's not such a big deal because Apple doesn't change everything, again, every five minutes. But it also means that if your hardware is no longer supportable with newer software due to an architecture change, well, you're SOL. It is here that Windows, with its ever-lasting compatibility, comes in handy. Or did--it's not clear to me that contemporary Windows is, in fact, so different from OS X, anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257772#p257772 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yep, basically what Chris said.Win7 is the new XP basically because people are sticking with the worst of a bad bunch. I agree, Vista service pack 2. Better to move to Win8.1 with Classic Shell; then you can get everything Windows has to offer. Only it's still Windows ...XP is old and obsolete, but it still works. It won't die, because for a lot of people it still manages to tick all the boxes. All these intentional XP refuseniks have simply concluded that there is nothing in yonder Windows upgrade direction. Developers are tired of supporting XP's antiquated APIs, and are simply forcibly removing support for it, following Google's lead. I don't blame them at all, but given that XP is still filling a need for some people, I'd say it was rather unfortunate. I wonder how long Firefox will hold out. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257772#p257772 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. It's still good for games, which is my only purpose for Windows these days. If only Microsoft would have stuck with that interface and simply enhanced it instead of creating more eye candy and lots of unnecessary crap. Who ever said Windows 7 is the new XP is correct. I don't know if I agree, since 7 just feels like a glorified Vista to me. Either way, Windows is in my past. If Microsoft doesn't care to provide an adequate screen reader and relies on third parties, I'm done. Everyone else has done the right thing. Narrator still has a ways to go. How about a talking installer anyone? Hint hint?Still, XP is awesome! I don't care if it's no longer supported. THe fact is that it has revived an old Mac that Apple simply threw away back when Lion came out. I'm not going to use the OS as my daily driver, but for playing some games and running other offline programs, it works just fine. I'm honestly surprised Dropbox and Firefox still work. Why is it that applications still work on a 14 year old operating system, but don't work on Snow Leopard, which is just about as old as 7? Is it that Apple cranks out way too many versions? It's funnny like that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257769#p257769 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I for one say about time! Say what you will about the later versions of Windows (and there's plenty wrong with them, as with everything), XP is well and truly done. I mean just look at an XP installation disk; each individual system file is zip-compressed instead of being in an image or package file, how illogical. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257767#p257767 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. POSReady updates still work in my XP VM.Dropbox drops support, and so does Chrome.That leaves Firefox, the single-process browser. And what happens when that moves to a multi-process model, eh?The end days are near, friends ... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257763#p257763 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I'm so used to the Win 7 start menu that going back would bbe like pulling teeth, it's just far more convenient to bbe able to type in the search box. I wish more of the changes were like that, refinements rather than the reinvention like this Win 8 removing the start menu nonsense. Still that's marketing for you. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=186345#p186345 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Just to bring this back once again to say that i think the POSE-ready updates still work, and from what i can tell, haven't broke my installation of XP on this old desktop. While i primarily keep it around because the hardware still works great, and it's also a good gaming box, for the occasional web browsing the machine does do, i haven't had a single issue. Now when the updates were first being used around the time the hack was discovered, the desktop would hang, but that is fixed now it seems. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=186274#p186274 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Interesting! The latest build of JAWS 32-bit (Jun 2014) is now compatible with the POSReady updates hack (no longer hanging at startup). Good! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181374#p181374 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Latest updates didn't appear for XP with the POSReady hack. Perhaps M$ caught wind? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180144#p180144 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @devinprater: because, let's face it, multilingual support is the reason Apple partnered with Nuance in the first place. If Apple decides--and I hope it does--that Nuance is a liability to them, they'll change, but I can't see why they would do that. The Turkish voices are actually pretty good.@Arq: As I've said before, I do believe there's something to be said for caution when handling unsupported Microsoft components, but I absolutely agree that as long as you're using safe software to touch the network, you should be absolutely fine. I believe XP holdouts should all get and install and use both Thunderbird and Firefox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179195#p179195 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I see my topic is still getting some love, good to see. One thing i noticed through a virtual machine i was playing with was that you can still browse the net with firefox and windows 2000. This is interesting to me because it really drives the point home that even though a version of windows isn't officialy getting updates any more, it doesn't mean you still can't be productive with it. Microsoft would have you believe otherwise, telling you that you are at extreme risk of security problems like viruses and being hacked. I would simply counter that by saying, sure, if your ignorant, you can certainly be hacked. If your the type of person to go in to the depths of the internet to some odd ball torrent sites, or who knows where, i would think that the risk would be greater than if you only did some day to day browsing like going to audio games .net. I wouldn't advise doing your banking or online shopping with an unsupported version of windows, but fear not, you can still be pretty productive i'm sure, even with windows 2000 or xp in the case of this topic. I also have done this with windows mobile 6.1, even finding a workaround to play flash videos. Oh, and also one more thing, i found a site that seems to be a corner of the world who loves and thinks that windows 98 SE is the best thing since sliced bread. Someone even devised some type of kernel update allowing a windows 98 user to view modern web pages. It's funny, because it goes against everything that software giants would have you believe, yet, people still love there dinosaur computers, and use them day to day. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179171#p179171 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. And who's to say they won't make other voices for other langs? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179140#p179140 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Indeed, and American English too. While I've of course grown used to it, I would doubtless like to see a British English voice with the same high quality as Alex, for when the situation demands. Right now, quality is the single biggest reason to use Alex, and coming over from Daniel it's just wonderful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179101#p179101 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi devinprater, but when apple breaks with nuance, most of the voice languages will be gone, the only one will be left is English, and not all people speak English. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179075#p179075 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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I still have a old EMachine, which is no longer made running with 512 megs of ram, and a 80 gig western digital hard drive with windows xp home addition. I plan to keep xp on there as long as it lives. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179035#p179035 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I really think their partnering with Neuance did that. To be fair, vocalizer isn’t as quirky as Ivona or Accapela, in my opinion, but still, Alex does sound, slightly, more like a Vocalizer voice. I really really hope Apple completely breaks with Neuance and does everything themselves, because when they do things themselves, it all, just, works. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178996#p178996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi.I agree, mac OS X is a great OS, even better than XP though XP still and always will be my favorite Windows OS.I agree about macintalk.Apple or who ever makes those voices has done some tweaking and Alex as well as the other male and female voices sound really crackely and emphasize some words strangely.For instance, try turning VoiceOver off on a mac and listen to how Alex says VoiceOver off.Well, that may change in iOS 8, since from what I've heard, Alex may finally be somewhat fixed. I miss Snow Leopard. It was the first mac OS I had and Alex was actually pretty good.I still don't know why they decided it was necessary to destroy the macintalk voices in Lion and higher.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178833#p178833 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi.I agree, mac OS X is a great OS, even better than XP though XP still and always will be my favorite Windows OS.I agree about macintalk.Apple or who ever makes those voices has done some tweaking and Alex as well as the other male and female voices sound really crackely and emphasize some words strangely.For instance, try turning VoiceOver off on a mac and listen to how Alex says VoiceOver off.Well, that may change in iOS 8, since from what I've heard, Alex may finally be somewhat fixed.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178833#p178833 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Agreed. Without doubt OS X is an excellent platform. I just think Apple's change of direction towards "Form, then function" rather than "Form, and function" is depressing.I think MacinTalk could use a bit more expressiveness.Drag and drop sometimes works. It should work better though, because it should be handled at the object level, rather than the mouse-click level. Same applies to table rows; it should really be handled in the OS, rather than using clicking gestures.Have you tried Adium? It might be a workable answer to Miranda for you.Finally I do wish Terminal were better supported. I mean, reading the screen every time it scrolls--that's just daft, and unnecessary, and cuts off tons of useful apps that are only available from the CLI, like IF interpreters. It's great that there's Mudder, but isn't that really a failure case? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178807#p178807 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Agreed. Without doubt OS X is an excellent platform. I just think Apple's change of direction towards "Form, then function" rather than "Form, and function" is depressing.I think MacinTalk could use a bit more expressiveness.Drag and drop sometimes works. It should work better though, because it should be handled at the object level, rather than the mouse-click level. Same applies to table rows; it should really be handled in the OS, rather than using clicking gestures.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178807#p178807 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Agreed. Without doubt OS X is an excellent platform. I just think Apple's change of direction towards "Form, then function" rather than "Form, and function" is depressing.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178807#p178807 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Interesting. Well I still think Apple’s applications are way more powerful than Windows ones. I love that I can copy and paste any attachment right from the finder to the email client, and make links that use the text as its “click here” type thing, something windows mail couldn’t do, and it all works, just works. One thing I don’t like though is that developers of audio games don’t seem to know the power of the mac. For example, if a user turns on “control voiceover with applescript” a developer can send text right to voiceover, not just using the system voice. I’m reminded over and over how mostly customizable voiceover is, and how powerful it is. You can’t possibly resize things, something pretty useful in garageband, in windows screen readers, and you definitely can’t drag and drop, something pretty useful with applications. No more needing to open up cmd just to send a file right to an application before the app opens… GXSCC anyone? Nah, sound fonts are better anyway, even for midi-to-NES like stuff. Plus, Alex, the voice on the mac, is downright awesome!The only natural voice on windows that even remotely reacts to exclamations is, uh, Microsoft Sam. Crazy isn’t it? But Alex, Fred, Bruce, Vicki and all other Macintalk voices work wonderfully with it! And yes, there’s a mudding client for the mac, called Mudder, which I use for alteration. No, its not Mush-Z, but it does well enough, and reads automatically, using voiceover. Yes, using the actual voiceover speech, instead of the system voice, unlike RS-games, ugh.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178803#p178803 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Each to his own, I guess. I just think there was once a time when Apple genuinely tried to cater to everybody, including the minor level geeks. Now you can't even view the plain text of a multipart email, monitor your base stations using SNMP, or configure half the services in OS X Server with any degree of depth.But yeah, sure, "Progress". URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178739#p178739 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I don’t see that. Mac is still as powerful as its ever been, to me. I have Windows XP virtualized, and use it for Miranda IM and all the other apps whose developers haven’t seen the need to port the apps to Mac yet.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178723#p178723 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Unfortunately, Apple seem intent on destroying functionality and reducing the platform to iOS-level competence, which does not give me a great deal of confidence about its future. I think it's better than 7, at least for the end-user, but it's hard to argue that XP was a good old dog, while it lasted.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178619#p178619 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I’d just go with the mac. After all, updates to Mac OS are free, unlike for Windows. Plus, Apple doesn’t destroy old stuff, they make it better, like all the voices in Macintalk. Fred, Bruce, and Vicki are all old voices, but still are there, and good. Plus, Mac is the only OS I know of with system-wide spellchecking.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=178552#p178552 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. OK, correction: it does work, if you make sure that the registry file is three lines, and yes I got the newest updates. But ...At least in my VM, the machine boots, but the desktop takes a little while to appear. I'm not sure why this is. Proceed cautiously.The other option, I was thinking, was to go with Windows Server 2003 as a desktop, which is still supported and has enough of the XP runtime to be useful. But, I fear that I am perhaps taking this all a bit too seriously, and that I should perhaps just quit now, while the going's good.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=175613#p175613 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. This is almost too good to be true. By simply tricking Windows Update into thinking you're on XP embedded, you can continue to download and install updates for XP.Holy tripe!Edit: tried it, and perhaps you will be unsurprised to learn that it didn't work for me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=175550#p175550 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. This is almost too good to be true. By simply tricking Windows Update into thinking you're on XP embedded, you can continue to download and install updates for XP.Holy tripe!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=175550#p175550 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi, I've read that Microsoft corrected the Internet Explorer problem also in Windows XP, and it will install as automatic update. So, nostalgic people, you can continue for now! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173757#p173757 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Guys, my hint is to go out from Windows xp, from now on there will come a lots of exploits. After one year to be safe and use Windows xp you will not use internet at all. Windows 7 and 8 are great and more stable and safe than xp.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173521#p173521 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Guys, my hint is to go out from Windows xp, from now on there will come a lots of exploits. After one year to be safe and use Windows xp you will not use internet at all.!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173521#p173521 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Oh, dear. This use-after-free vulnerability affects IE6, too. And doesn't require Flash …Dump IE. It doesn't matter if you don't like Firefox, just do it. There won't be a fix for this in XP, even if there's no fix available for any of the platforms right now. Unless you want to try EMET …Edit: or buy a Mac. Mitigation is available for this bug, by disabling VML support.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173499#p173499 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Oh, dear. This use-after-free vulnerability affects IE6, too. And doesn't require Flash …Dump IE. It doesn't matter if you don't like Firefox, just do it. There won't be a fix for this in XP, even if there's no fix available for any of the platforms right now. Unless you want to try EMET …URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173499#p173499 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @Gellman: Thanks a lot mate. It all checks out. This will save me a lot of time. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173084#p173084 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyYes, got your PM.I don't often check my Yahoo mail, so now it's Hushmail time.if others are interested in the WSUS offline ISO just mail me.Sorry for even hinting that you might install java.But in my stupid country, java is required for authentication on public websites.The publicly funded solution is called EasyID (NemID) and is even mandatory for home banking causing several accessibility problems of its own.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172999#p172999 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @Gellman: check your PMs. You may notify me of follow-ups by email.I may be a Mac user, but I still have BitTorrent. On the contrary I do not have Java. Please refrain from any suggestion that require it. We may be pirates, but we are not tasteless. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172991#p172991 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyThere is a PM for you.I delete this message after you have confirmed you have read it.Moderators, please implement popup notification for unread private messages.It should not be difficult to code.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172985#p172985 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyThere is a PM for you.I delete this message after you have confirmed you have read it.Moderators, please implement popup notification for unread private messages.It should not be difficult to code.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172836#p172836 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @gellman: I was just going to ask. Yes, both the XP and 7 offline installers would be very helpful. Thanks a lot!Edit: Cannot find this Driver Forge of which you speak.Edit2: yes I can, if I remove the space that Siri inserts. Ta. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172745#p172745 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @gellman: I was just going to ask. Yes, both the XP and 7 offline installers would be very helpful. Thanks a lot!Edit: Cannot find this Driver Forge of which you speak.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172745#p172745 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @gellman: I was just going to ask. Yes, both the XP and 7 offline installers would be very helpful. Thanks a lot!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172745#p172745 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyNo need to start from scratch; if you are interested, I can provide you with offline isos of all Windows XP updates for offline installation.I have used WSUS to generate isos for Windows XP, 7, Vista, 7 and 8 and 8.1..Tell me if you are interested, and I am willing to provide you with a WSUS offline ISO for any Windows version you desire.If you ever go the Driverpacks route, you should also get DriverForge 5.0 for Windows XP.DriverForge will recursively scann an entire folder including all subfolders for matching plug and play drivers.You can use DriverForge in conjunction with Driverpacks.net by extracting all Windows XP driverpacks to a single folder and point DriverForge to the folder containing the driverpacks.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172744#p172744 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @gellman: nope, this is just my retail install.Thanks for reference to DriverPacks, that looks totally awesome and I expect I'll be using that fairly soon.Win2K updates are still available as of now. I'll definitely get the XP updates at some point, but probably later down the road. Edit: ARGH! I broke it already (display driver issues, oh the horrors). I think I'll be getting that offline installer sooner than I thought. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172720#p172720 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @gellman: nope, this is just my retail install.Thanks for reference to DriverPacks, that looks totally awesome and I expect I'll be using that fairly soon.Win2K updates are still available as of now. I'll definitely get the XP updates at some point, but probably later down the road. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172720#p172720 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @twardInteresting story.I think that a lot of the morning over Windows XP is due to the perception that XP was the first stable Windows with the best accessibility and least bloated user interface..I must confess that I don't like Win7 or 8 and that the screen reader accessibility support seems to be either stagnant or getting worse.and 8 is also more sluggish than XP with JAWS which a lot of users unfortunately have to stick with due to software being incompatible with NVDA.@SebbyInteresting.How did you activate?Did you try the OEMBIOS solution?By the way, you should download and preserve all Windows XP updates while you can, because Microsoft may close the download servers without notice.A good solution for accomplishing this purpose is WSUS Offline.It's an offline downloader and generator for Windows XP , Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1, Office 2007, 2010 and 2013.It can cr eate an ISO for offline installation of all updates.It's ideal for a virtual machine lacking internet access.Another great solution I can recommend is driverpacks.net.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172704#p172704 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @twardInteresting story.I think that a lot of the morning over Windows XP is due to the perception that XP was the first stable Windows with the best accessibility possibilities for blind users.I must confess that I don't like Win7 or 8 and that the screen reader accessibility support iseems to be either stagnant or getting worse.and 8 is also more sluggish than XP with JAWS which a lot of users unfortunately have sto stick with due to software being incompatible with NVDA.@SebbyInteresting.How did you activate?Did you try the OEMBIOS solution?By the way, you should download and preserve all Windows XP updates while you can, because Microsoft may close the download servers without notice.A good solution for accomplishing this purpose is WSUS Offline.It's an offline downloader for Windows XP , Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 updates.It can create an ISO for offline installation of all updates.It's ideal for a virtual machine lacking internet access.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172704#p172704 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Confirmed that a fresh VM can obtain all the patches.I wouldn't bother with Security Essentials, even if you can get it installed. It nags you to death about the OS no longer getting patches, and moreover recently completely broke XP if you happened to update your sigs at the wrong moment. OTOH, it may not be the right choice for everyone.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172602#p172602 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Thanks Gellman; got it.The VMWare article was especially useful, but thanks for the BIOS; I will be trying it with my next clean install.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172017#p172017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Thanks Gellman; got it.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172017#p172017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyFor reference on how to freeze time in a virtual machine read:"Timekeeping in VMware Virtual Machines"For reference on how to simulate a vmware OEM BIOS and activate Windows XP on virtual hardware read:"Painless HP OEMBIOS and VMWare Bios Pre-Mod""[Modded] Vmware Workstation/Player Multi Brand Bios Installer"I can help you with the files.Update: There is a PM for you!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171964#p171964 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyFor reference on how to freeze time in a virtual machine read:"Timekeeping in VMware Virtual Machines"For reference on how to simulate a vmware OEM BIOS and activate Windows XP on virtual hardware read:"Painless HP OEMBIOS and VMWare Bios Pre-Mod""[Modded] Vmware Workstation/Player Multi Brand Bios Installer"I can help you with the files.Send me a PM if you are interested.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171964#p171964 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Yeah, it's possible, and I'll have that reference on freezing the date and time and configuring the BIOS machine description strings in various products if you have them, thanks.The question is why. TechNet used to offer (my sub just recently expired, but I have all my keys) XP Retail disc images and keys. So in fact, I'm all set for activation. But I think it's safe to say that not everybody will be.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171938#p171938 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyActivation of Windows XP is not necessary in order to use the OS in a virtual machine.It's possible to reset the time and date of the VM to the first day of the month within which you have to register and use Windows XP forever in trial mode.Provided that the product key used to install Windows XP matches the setup.ini in the setup folder you in fact only need one key for installation.The rest is for activation.There are several possibilities:(1) Install Windows XP inside a VM (VMWare) and freeze the date and time (there are several references on how to accomplish this by editing the VMX file).(2) Install Windows XP with a generic OEM product key inside a VM (VMWare) and modify the DMI BIOS strings to match the OEM vendor.The OEM generic keys are available from Microsoft Technet, but if they aren't, I have them on file.Update:Read and save the article: "Preserving OEM Pre-Activati on when Re-installing Windows XP"If you have a Windows XP OEM cd which came with your old computer, you can use the generic key (for Home or Pro) to perform a fresh installation of Windows XP in a VM.The new virtual installation of Windows XP will function for 30 days and is fully functional within the grace period.In order to activate a virtual OEM Windows XP you need to add some strings to the virtual DMI BIOS.This is done by configuring VMWare or Virtualbox to emulate the OEM vendor's DMI strings and by adding some OEM specific files to %%systemroot%%\\oobe.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171811#p171811 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. @SebbyActivation of Windows XP is not necessary in order to use the OS in a virtual machine.It's possible to reset the time and date of the VM to the first day of the month within which you have to register and use Windows XP forever in trial mode.Provided that the product key used to install Windows XP matches the setup program, you in fact only need one key for installation.The rest is for activation.There are several possibilities:(1) Install Windows XP inside a VM (VMWare) and freeze the date and time (there are several references on how to accomplish this by editing the VMX file).(2) Install Windows XP with a generic OEM product key inside a VM (VMWare) and modify the DMI BIOS strings to match the OEM vendor.The OEM generic keys are available from Microsoft Technet, but if they aren't, I have them on file.URL: http://forum .audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171811#p171811 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Here's an article about using the Windows XP mode image as your XP installation. It might be an option, although it's frought with some treachery, namely that switching hypervisors causes freezes. And you need another key, because the VPC BIOS that's emulated in Win7 will not be available under another hypervisor.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171780#p171780 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. good bye xp!: : : just found something on twitter where someone plays a piano toon over the windows sounds, as kind of a reminder or something. it's perfectly in synk.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171750#p171750 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. [[wow]]. Just reading a few of these posts makes me realize how old I am compared to a lot of you, and how many members of this forum are pretty young. I think one reason I am not as emotional over the demise of XP is that for me it was not my first operating system. It was only one of several in a long line of operating systems I have used since the early 80's.I think the first time I used a computer it was when I was about age 7 or so. It was an Apple II-E running Apple Works. Naturally, Apple Works was as primitive as can be compared to what we have to day. In the early days it was basically a monochrome command prompt where you typed commands like "run football" to start a game of football which was text only. Most games for the Apple were text only back then so they were not anything fancy to write home about.From there, this being the mid 80's or so, I got an Apple II-J which had a newer versions of Apple Works on it. Unlike prior vers ions of Apple Works this version came with a menu. You would insert the floppy, type in the days date, eject the disc, turn it over and were presented in a sort of Start Menu. All in text of course. You could arrow up and down to various commands instead of type them directly into the command prompt.From there around 1990 or so I graduated to an IBM 286 running MS Dos 5.0. This is still pre-graphical user interface so like with Apple Works I basically had to type commands like cd to change directories, dir to get a list of directories, copy to copy a file, del to delete a file, and so on. About the only thing coming close to graphical back then was The Dos Shell which came with PC Dos which allowed you to bring up a graphical list of the files and directories on the hard drive. However, as the Dos Shell didn't come with all versions of Dos it was only on IBM computers and not HP, AST, Compaq, Del, etc.Naturally I stuck with that system for a couple of years, upgra ded it to MS Dos 6.2, and performed other upgrades on it until the IBM 486 came out. When the 486 came out I upgraded to it, because wonder of wonders besides Microsoft Dos it came with Microsoft Windows 3.1 which was the first version of Windows I have ever used. It wasn't as graphical or detailed as what we have today, but it was leaps and bounds more advanced than Dos. There were better graphics, better games, and one thing I loved was being able to assign sounds to various events which hadn't been possible in Dos.In 1996 I started collecting SSI, and I purchased an IBM Aptiva with a Pentium 166 processor, Windows 95, and by that time I was losing my vision so got Jaws for Windows 2.0. I wasn't very happy with the first release of Windows 95 because it constantly crashed and I often had to go back to the 486 to get anything done because Windows 3.1 was more stable than 95. I liked the look and feel of 95 which was really awesome, but its stability was terrib le. It wasn't until Microsoft released 95B that the OS was remotely worth having.In 1998 I was in college, and while I had my Aptiva it wasn't portable. I purchased a laptop with Windows 98 on it, and I have to say by and large Windows 98 was probably my favorite OS. Especially, 98 Second Edition which was more stable than Windows 95 or Windows 98, but was simple and easy to use. I of course liked it so much I went out and got Windows 98 for the Aptiva which meant I quickly moved to 98 once I found how much I liked it.Around 2000 I did buy the Windows Millennium upgrade for my laptop, but it ran so slowly that I eventually had to take it off. Millennium frankly sucked and I considered it a waste of money.I'm trying to think of when I got my first XP machine and I believe that was around 2002. I got a new desktop, actually built a new desktop, and along with I got an OEM version of XP. At the time it was the first version of XP without the service packs so it crashed alot and like a lot of people I did a fair amount of bitching and griping about it. It wasn't until SP1 came out that XP was worth having. By the time SP2 came out it was a fairly decent OS.Over the course of the next few years I actually purchased and owned more than one PC so I will skip all the details and just say I was happy with XP up until around 2007 when I got a new laptop with Vista on it, and slowly updated some of my other machines to Vista slowly phasing XP out.When Windows 7 came out, I want to say 2009, I got a copy, found out how much better it was than Vista, and immediately purchased licenses for all of my ,machines that could run it and upgraded them. Those that couldn't run Windows 7 got Linux, and I still mainly use windows 7 on my Windows computers and have a couple of systems running Linux.To end this long rant I did get a Toshiba laptop in 20011 which came with Windows 7, but last year I upgraded it to Windows 8. Although, I am unwilling
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. 16 Gb of ram? Jesus! What the hell do you need 16 GB of ram for? Unless it makes that much of a difference in, say, converting video files to audio, audio files from one format to another or video files from one format to another. Otherwise, I see no reason to have anything more than 6 GB of ram.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171683#p171683 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Indeed, XP seems to have been the gaming OS for a lot of us. Now, why is that? Sure, it emerged at about the right time for the exploding audio games market, even though the initial versions were crazily revolutionary, much as Vista was. I remember Matt and I (then at uni, and of course soon to work on AQ which was particularly suited to XP and Linux) called it "Windows, Extremely Patronising". No doubt because of the absurdly consumer focus (themes, dialog boxes rendered in HTML with hideous levels of command buttons to reach the settings one wanted, etc) on an operating system that had just undergone the NT transition, unlike Win2k. In fact, I jumped in early when XP was first supported by Window-Eyes, which itself now had just undergone the NT transition, and as a result downgraded back to 2K rather than 98 until XP matured a little and Microsoft finally killed off 2K, which by that time had significant disadvantages in hardware, DOS compatibility, boot-time speed, etc. Indeed, it wasn't that long ago that we both observed how XP was "The OS that refused to die". But still, XP was particularly fun-filled. Perhaps not to the degree that the 9x family was, but still, it was easy to manipulate and configure and easy to purpose according to one's own wishes, much as the hobbyist DOS-based OSs before it were. I believe that contributed significantly to its success. Nobody wants their computer to be the boss of them, and that's especially important for gaming. Sadly Microsoft seems to have forgotten that computers should, on the whole, be pleasant to use and shouldn't enrage their users. About the only thing I couldn't handle was development on the platform, held hostage by Microsoft's licensing--which Microsoft apologists always claim is Microsoft's endeavour to keep itself from outpricing the competition. Ha! What a laugh!Memories, memories, memories …URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171630#p171630 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I'm also with you on the memories. I made a few Microsoft Sam parodies with that operating system and a few other text-to-speech parodies. I used to have Talking Typer on an old XP machine. It was version 1.0. I also used to have Termite Torpedo on that old operating system as well. I had all my NES games stored on the hard drive and all my let's plays with them. XP was the first operating system that I used at home, but not at school. After my school had used Win 2K for a long time, it was time to upgrade. All my computers at school that I used had XP with JFW 7 on them. I played a bunch of games with XP. The first hard disk died and I then upgraded to SP2. Then after that one died, I upgraded to my current one, SP3. I also had one of those dual-boot systems at the time. One partition had Win 7 on it, and the other partition had Win XP SP3 on it. I then ended up learning how to use various programs on XP, like DECtalk, Vocaloid, FL-Studio, and lots of other programs. Bo y, XP was just good memories for me.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171624#p171624 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I'm with you on the memories. Ran xp on a acer netbook for a few years. While it wasn't the fastest machine, i could play a ton of audio games on it. I remember all the entombed alphas, and audio quake, lol. I also used to play dos games on xp, as it was quite a bit more stable back then. Played the dos versions of some mortal kombat games, and some text based games that i learned about on this site, i think it was fallthrough. Oh yes, and a ton of shades of doom as well. Good times.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171620#p171620 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi,This post is gonna be a long one, so bare with me.I honestly think that xp was the most stable operating system, second only to my hp envy desktop with 16 gb ram and windows 8. I don't use that one all the time, but for gaming it's awesome.But man I have so many memories of xp, I remember the first thing I purchased wass Troopanum 2. Played that thing to death. Anticipated the release of Blast Chamber, used Freedom Chat. Discovered some Disney podcasts, got my first portable mp3 player and learned about removable drives and memory sticks, and who knows what else. Aah, the days of Hal version 5, when internet access got added, I felt so happy. So much information. Little did I know how much the internet would mean to me. Skype, Teamtalk, the hole lot, I learned about audio editing and created parodies, aah those days with forumight Arjan on Skype creating dectalk battles and pc explosions in mp3 format. Then the moronic dalek recorded with Sound Recor der. Then a person by the name of Samuel showed me how to make a dalek voice with Goldwave and Audacity, and I've still got the result to this day! Aah, those carefree days. Seriously. Every time I'd finish my homework, it was back to Goldwave, Dectalk, and whatever sounds I could get my hands on. Spent hours on a few parodies, mostly sound driven rather than Dectalk singing, couldn't get the hang of that. In the end, I had to upgrade to windows 7 which I still like, but xp just has loads of these crazy memories.Regards,AaronURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171600#p171600 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well, of course, it's quite unlikely that your latest computer runs XP though. It's OK. XP runs really, really nicely in a VM on this SSD. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171588#p171588 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. I did get to play with windows 98, but I'm far too young to remember that.I do believe it had a few programs which were:Talking typing teacherJaws for windowsWord, full versionThat being said, I am far too young to remember that.OH and, back in my childhood, we got to type on mechanical keyboards. Our lab at our school had this strange thing where, every, Wednesday? We would enter the computer labs. There, you would learn to type on a keyboard.The weird thing is the way they handled it.Oh, come on. I know some of you thought in your early days of school, at the end of the year talking typing teacher would print out this huge book report your parents guardians could look at. I sure did. Hahahah!Luckily though, it didn't happen.I got my first xp box in 2003, roughly.It was a gateway machine. Didn't know anything about computers then, so I don't remember specs.But it had jaws 4.5 and a few oth er programs. Oh and it also had a floppy drive.Then I got my second and current, xp machine, in 2007, Nov. 15? Something like that.Literally the day of! a hurricane here in Florida.Then after the primary hard drive died in 2009, I had to start looking at new machines, since I didn't really know how to fix it, and no one would reformat a new hard drive and put xp on it.So that was when I got my third xp machine, however this was a craptiva U8?Had crappy specs, but I tell you what. It had the best sound card I'd seen in a laptop thus far.Not too long after I bought the laptop, I then started to miss my desktop. So I went online and researched on ways to fix the desktop.I started learning information fast, and roughly a week after my research was complete, I went down to a best buy shop, bought a brand new hard drive, slapped it in, installed xp on it, and was good to go all in one dayAs the world around me upgraded to bigger an d better, I then realized just what that meant to me.Second hard drive failed some 3 months later, so this time, I had a decision to make. Keep upgrading this machine with a hard drive every 3 4 months, or buy a new machine.I sold my xp laptop, and used some of the money to buy a brand new, Asus k52 versatile entertainment laptop.I still miss that thing, even to this day. It had 4 gb of ram with a 7200 RPM hard drive 320 gb storage windows 7 home premium 64 bit.I used that for a while, mean while the desktop sat in storage for a rather long time.As a senior project I decided to reupgrade the machine, new ram, new hard drive, pretty much everything that could be replaced would get replaced.I spent close to $700 on pure upgrades for that thing.It wasn't too much longer the laptop hard drive finally died. So I got a windows 8 HP g7 laptop, for a little less than $414.19.Lets just say, the thing was nothing short of horrible. Startups took ages. Laptop stayed hot all the time. NVDA absolutely hated it as well.So I then returned it, and bought a dell n5040? Laptop. I used that for about 1 and a half years, before I finally decided, out of pure experience with the thing, to upgrade to something bigger and better.Now I use a lenovo think pad t430 with 16 GB of ram 128 GB SSD custom built with fingerprint reader. Lets just say, this thing is beast.Well, I didn't intend for my post to be this long, hahah!That is pretty much my journey through the computer world.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171576#p171576 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Hi.Well, indeed it is sad.My first experience with a computer was a Windows XP computer that I used to play the alphas of Entombed.So yeah, I think XP will always be special to me since it was the first and probably only Windows operating system I will use until Microcrap gets their act together and builds something like VOiceOver, which I guess they have started in Windows 8.I think it's kind of late, but anyway if the trend continues, then we may have another system that just works and talks out of the box like the mac.I hope it happens, and screw the AT companies if it does.Sure, they provided access to computers for years, but the access came with a really high price tag that we really shouldn't have to pay for.We have as much of a right to use the same technology as anyone else.But yeah, XP was and is still great.XP shall live on, at least as long as I'm alive or until it becomes completely useless in terms of compatibility or other things.So yeah, I'm not upgrading just because all mighty Microsoft says so. They haven't cared about the blind until recently, so I'll only consider upgrading if that attitude really changes, which may not be for a while.So sorry Microcrap, but until you do what Apple and Google have done, I'm not spending money on your crappy OS.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171567#p171567 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Damn. Xp is the first OS I learned to use.Kinda sad to see them pull the plug on it. OH well, I guess.Last question, before they did, did microsoft release any updates before? I want to make sure I'm absolutely up to date.Let's share memories, now that xp is dead. When did you guys first learn to use xp, and was it your first OS?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171561#p171561 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Well, that's it.XP is now at end of life, or "dead" for short. It died at 15:00 in your local time zone. You can see this for yourself at AmIRunningXP.com. Long live XP. You'll be missed.Meanwhile, our government, being a typically incompetent bunch of morons when it comes to any IT project, has secured a deal with Microsoft to keep XP patched for another year in the public sector, at the cost of ￡5.584 million. [[wow]], what a colossal waste of taxpayer funds!You'll no doubt be pleased to hear that the last patch batch includes the fix for that awful RTF vulnerability. Another one like that--and it's sure to happen--and we're probably about finished on the public Internet, realistically.So there it is. The end. Goodbye, XP. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171543#p171543 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you.
Re: Goodbye Windows XP, i still get nistalgic over you. Why Windows XP's Demise Is Bad for Linux and Open SourceMight as well get a bit more mourning in while the going's good, eh? BANG! A whole bunch of Windows XP machines just spontaneously burst into flames! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171512#p171512 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
