[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
I've had a Lacie external for the last 2 years and its been replaced once and repaired twice and its still playing up. So I'm looking elsewhere now as I'm a little disappointed to say the least with it's reliability. I'm looking at the ReadyNAS NV now which I think uses Seagate hdd's, which I think have the 5 year warrante, need to check. I've had an internal Hitachi 500gb backing up the Lacie, (the Lacie was supposed to be the back up ha!) Thats been fine - touch wood, fingers crossed. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
Another stupid question: I'm currently doing a back-up of all my music. As you already have guessed I'm using FLAC compression. However, I plan to buy an iPod in the near future and it got me thinking: wouldn't it be more convinient if I ripped my music to Apple Loseless instead of FLAC? That way I could play Apple Loseless in Slimerserver and STILL transfer the songs to my iPod... How's the Apple compression rate compared to FLAC? -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Totally off the general line of discussion I know, but just a way off thought, have you any other digi coax's just to swap over see if that makes any difference... I was not impressed when I first pluged in my SB, but I eventually found that upgrading my IC between pre/power (it was a basic one) made a huge difference, and it is now far far better than the old source. Just a thought :) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
Ali-M Wrote: Another stupid question: I'm currently doing a back-up of all my music. As you already have guessed I'm using FLAC compression. However, I plan to buy an iPod in the near future and it got me thinking: wouldn't it be more convinient if I ripped my music to Apple Loseless instead of FLAC? That way I could play Apple Loseless in Slimerserver and STILL transfer the songs to my iPod... How's the Apple compression rate compared to FLAC? If I remember correctly, ALAC (Apple) compressed a little better that FLAC. Have you thought about players from other producers (iRiver, iAudio, etc) ? They have models that support FLAC. Finally, do you need lossless on your player ? They eat up diskspace very quickly. I have a 20G iAudio X5 and use mp3 or oggs so I get enough music with me... -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
tomsi42 Wrote: If I remember correctly, ALAC (Apple) compressed a little better that FLAC. Have you thought about players from other producers (iRiver, iAudio, etc) ? They have models that support FLAC. Finally, do you need lossless on your player ? They eat up diskspace very quickly. I have a 20G iAudio X5 and use mp3 or oggs so I get enough music with me... And the sound quality is the same right? I mean, like ezkcdude said; loseless is loseless. Right? I'm very picky when it comes to sound reproduction, and frankly, I think my SHURE in-ear-phones deserves better than MP3's, no offence. I don't carry all my music with me anyway so a 30-40 giga iPod with ALAC files is fine enough for me. + I like the iPod design... -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
Ali-M Wrote: And the sound quality is the same right? I mean, like ezkcdude said; loseless is loseless. Right? Right! Ali-M Wrote: I'm very picky when it comes to sound reproduction, and frankly, I think my SHURE in-ear-phones deserves better than MP3's, no offence. I don't carry all my music with me anyway so a 30-40 giga iPod with ALAC files is fine enough for me. + I like the iPod design... In that case you need lossless. You should consider a 60GB model though. You can't get enough disk space on those players... -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
tomsi42 Wrote: Right! In that case you need lossless. You should consider a 60GB model though. You can't get enough disk space on those players... Do you know if there's a hack to enable FLAC's on iPod? -- Ali-M Ali-M's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?
I just paid the $480 , but will probably get a duty bill sometime soon, the other cost was the courier in the UK £28.30 -- pkfox pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24200 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: digital room correction
It seems to me there is one advantage of computer equalization which hasn't been discussed here, namely that the processing is not done in real time on an isynchronous audio signal, but instead in faster than real time on the audio file on the computer. One advantage of that is that it eliminates the jitter which would be induced by a digital box in the audio chain. Probably more importantly, it gives you much more flexibility in the type of filters and effects which could be applied. I wonder whether in the future such devices will perform functions such as dynamically adjusting levels and equalization filters depending on your current position in the room... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24519 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
You should really do some A/B comparisons for yourself. MP3's can sound quite good, if you encode them VBR with high quality presets (I use 0, but anything 2 or less). The file size when using VBR vs flac is much (*MUCH*) smaller. You give up a little bit in SQ, but you gain a LOT in storage space, which can be important on a portable. When we're talking home use, lossless is the way to go. But on a portable it's sometimes a good idea to make compromises. The good news is that once you get your music stored as flac files, you can transcode them to any format you like. There are many utilities out there that do this, many of these are free. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
I wonder if maybe Foobar2000 is applying a gain adjustment and the SB3 is not? Both playback systems can apply replaygain, but the gain tags have to be present in your files. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Eac - Flac
nelamvr6 Wrote: You should really do some A/B comparisons for yourself. MP3's can sound quite good, if you encode them VBR with high quality presets (I use 0, but anything 2 or less). The file size when using VBR vs flac is much (*MUCH*) smaller. You give up a little bit in SQ, but you gain a LOT in storage space, which can be important on a portable. This is also what I do. I have found MP3 with VBR 0 is good enough for portable use. When I listen to portable sound, it is in less than optimal situations. nelamvr6 Wrote: When we're talking home use, lossless is the way to go. But on a portable it's sometimes a good idea to make compromises. The good news is that once you get your music stored as flac files, you can transcode them to any format you like. There are many utilities out there that do this, many of these are free. I use a program called Easy CD-DA Extractor ( http:/www.poikosoft.com ) to convert my FLAC's to MP3's, and a home made script to convert from FLAC to ogg. -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24602 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Minor Rant: I wish more CD players had digital inputs
A lot of the higher-end units have a CD/Preamp feature. There is a MF PRE-Cd 24 on Audiogon that looks nice: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay1155219922 . I'm assuming you don't already have a DVD player near the stereo setup, but that might be a cheap transport option. One that might also allow various software formats to be played (not that I'm endorsing SACD or anything). -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24627 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Slim Devices NAS Device
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24534 Question: What do you think about the new SD NAS device? - Awesome! Where can I get one? - Nice. I'll put that on my wish list. - Not for me, but it sure is pretty. - Lame idea. Have the SD folks lost their minds? fuzzyT Wrote: Not currently anyway. The NV has upgradeable firmware, and the request has been made and acknowledged for a disc spin-down feature. AFAIK, no promises or ETA. --rt Cheers Good to know, I'll keep an eye out for it. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24534 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Minor Rant: I wish more CD players had digital inputs
I ditto the DVD solution. I have a relatively cheap Toshiba DVD player that I use for the occasional CD that I can't wait to rip in order to listen to. However, IMHO, the SB beats the pants off any other transport. -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac linear psu) to benchmark dac1, direct to sunfire cinema grand 200 ~five (vertically bi-amped) driving ml aerius i's, blue jeans cables. 'click to see my system' (http://www.martinloganowners.com/~tdacquis/forum/showthread.php?t=732) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24627 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Hi Thanks for all your thoughts and advice on this issue. What Im really talking about here is the subjective enjoyment of music, a difficult thing to quantify... To sum it up.. I want to listen to 4 or 5 albums in a row rather than the 1 or 2 at present before the dreaded digital wearyness sets in. Music stored on hard disk rather than being read from a cd is a massive move forward in the right direction. The difference in quality is totally apparent. Its probably true that I have become used to a coloured 'warmer' sound that although not as transparent as the SB was imo quite musical. It will probably take a while to 'adjust. In the meantime I may swap out my VDH Digital coax for a carbon fibre one, this should go some way to taming this high frequency sibilence that keeps rearing its nasty head (Thanks Deaf Cat). Im anxious from reading your post JJZolx that im making a pigs ear of my CD rips! Do you know of a good EAC setup help file for accurate rips? what is your configuration? I use a Liteon DVD/CDR/RW drive. There are always more glitches on the louder (busier) tracks whereas quiet acoustic tracks very rarely suffer from glitches??. Do people here really get no glitches?... this is my procedure, please tell me if im doing it right: First i get cd info from the remote freedb, then i choose Test and copy selected tracks from the action menu, these are written to my cd albums folder at about 8 - 10X speed on average (my drive is 48 speed). I choose uncompressed .wav files to rip to as I have a 400gb Hard Drive. When the copying finishes i select 'review tracks' and use the glitch removal option on each track. Sometimes there are no glitches at other times there are hundreds. Ive just ripped Nick Drakes Pink Moon CD (brand new remastered) there were 64 glitches on track 1, 6 on track 2, none on track 3, none on track 4, 2 on track 5, 73 on track 5, 12 on track 6 etc. BTW It sounds a lot more dynamic now that I have set volume to fixed. and theres an improvement from running the power adaptor from my mains conditioner (more refined) Its still Bright though :( Jack. -- Lyonesse Lyonesse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
snarlydwarf Wrote: Guess I should explain jitter for grins and cause I'm bored :P QUOTE] Great explanation! I wish I could go back in time and tell those early audio digital designers to check out what the computer industry was doing - a) error correcting codes on data streams and b) put a damn catalog of track information on the CDs! Of course, then we wouldn't have the anti-jitter industry or the music tagging industry... -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
blah509 Wrote: OK then...from a reliablity standpoint. What are the boards picks? I think it goes in cycles. Anyone remember Seagate's old problems with sticktion? IBM has been mentioned, they actually made great drives until the deathstar line. I'm seeing lots of dead Maxtors these days (I help a lot of neighbors with their computers), but not sure what the cause is. I'm not seeing the problems that some report with Western Digital. Have several of their SATA drives, both 10k and 7200 RPM, in various machines here with no problems in the first couple years. I'm pretty happy with current Seagates (use several big ones for backups), but my old 15000 RPM generation 2 SCSI Cheetahs are dying. But, as the old IT saying goes, there are only two types of drives - those that have failed, and those that haven't failed yet. -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Lyonesse Wrote: What Im really talking about here is the subjective enjoyment of music, a difficult thing to quantify... To sum it up.. I want to listen to 4 or 5 albums in a row rather than the 1 or 2 at present before the dreaded digital wearyness sets in. Music stored on hard disk rather than being read from a cd is a massive move forward in the right direction. The difference in quality is totally apparent. You've lost me... I thought the original premise for this thread was that the Squeezebox as transport was inferior to your old CD player. How can you see any improvement if the Squeezebox is bright and uninvolving, as you stated previously? Its probably true that I have become used to a coloured 'warmer' sound that although not as transparent as the SB was imo quite musical. It will probably take a while to 'adjust. In the meantime I may swap out my VDH Digital coax for a carbon fibre one, this should go some way to taming this high frequency sibilence that keeps rearing its nasty head (Thanks Deaf Cat). Really? Listen first before coming to any conclusions. I would try to find the sound you like rather than hoping you adjust to the sound you're getting. There's not much enjoyment to be had in taking the latter approach. Im anxious from reading your post JJZolx that im making a pigs ear of my CD rips! Do you know of a good EAC setup help file for accurate rips? what is your configuration? I use a Liteon DVD/CDR/RW drive. There are always more glitches on the louder (busier) tracks whereas quiet acoustic tracks very rarely suffer from glitches??. Bits are bits. When doing digital audio extraction there's no reason why a busier section should be any more or less difficult to extract than a quiet one. Something else must going on. Do people here really get no glitches?... this is my procedure, please tell me if im doing it right: First i get cd info from the remote freedb, then i choose Test and copy selected tracks from the action menu, these are written to my cd albums folder at about 8 - 10X speed on average (my drive is 48 speed). I choose uncompressed .wav files to rip to as I have a 400gb Hard Drive. When the copying finishes i select 'review tracks' and use the glitch removal option on each track. Sometimes there are no glitches at other times there are hundreds. Ive just ripped Nick Drakes Pink Moon CD (brand new remastered) there were 64 glitches on track 1, 6 on track 2, none on track 3, none on track 4, 2 on track 5, 73 on track 5, 12 on track 6 etc. I've never heard of anyone having to do this, except maybe from damaged discs. Two people extracting tracks from the same pressing of a CD on different computers, with different optical drives, will usually get identical files - every last bit among the tens of millions of bits on a track coming out the same. My setup, I'm sure, is very typical. I rip to Flac intead of WAV, for the benefit of both the compression and the tagging, but sound-wise, the two are the same. Are you sure you're getting glitches, rather than hearing things that are on the original recording? I've heard plenty of noises on recordings - dropped drum sticks, bumped microphones, coughs, chairs moving. No reason to trying fixing any of that, IMO. BTW It sounds a lot more dynamic now that I have set volume to fixed. and theres an improvement from running the power adaptor from my mains conditioner (more refined) Its still Bright though :( You haven't mentioned what you're comparing - the analog out of your CD player, or the CDP used as a transport? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
ezkcdude Wrote: I use Seagate. Definitely do not go with Western Digital, if you value your music collection. Too much of a generalization. The Raptor series from WD is both blazing-fast and quite solidly reliable; but their smallish maximum size makes them a suboptimal choice for the big-ass music archive. Brands go through their seasons of good and bad reliability, and lines and models within the brands can of vary. Back in the day, Seagate used to be pretty much the worst of the lot, especially compared to the brilliant efforts from CDC (Control Data Corporation). Then, a couple of years after Seagate bought CDC and incorporated their designers into the Seagate fold, the Barracuda line appeared and has been a performance and reliability high point ever since. Coincidence? Actually, despite this mild devil's-advocate stance, I have to agree that right now, if I weren't planning to try to do a lot of research into an individual drive model and just had to make a guess based on brand, I'd most likely plump for Seagate. In fact, it's Seagate disks I chose to populate my bare ReadyNAS NV with: a set of the ST3500641NS, from Seagate's Nearline series, which (at least as of when I made the purchase) seemed to be the preferred disk of some of the Infrant gurus for performance and expected reliabity if one were willing to pay the slight premium over Seagate's regular desktop line. There's of course a rub in that phrase expected reliability -- by the time really good real-world historical reliability statistics are out for a model, it'll have been discontinued and its size will seem hopelessly tiny by the new standards of the day. So you end up having to make a decision based on the manufacturer's statistical predictions, filtered through your sense of the maker's competence and integrity, with a sprinkling of intuition thrown in. -- jbm0 jbm0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
With hard drives, you only care about noise, heat, and reliability. Only certain model of certain brand, namely old IBM glass disc drives, has higher than average failure rate. WD, Maxtor, Hitachi/IBM, and Seagate all have similar failure rate nowadays. If someone claims some brands are not good, that purely depend on their own experience. In that case, 1% means 100% for them. I have used various model and currently I have 9 HD's over 200GB for storage. Overall, Seagate is quiet, but again, it depend on model. Newer model tend to be quiet. I have an old Maxtor 80G which is noisest one but latest Maxtor 250G is realy cool and quiet. WD 200G model which first appear in market 4 years ago is really noisy, but their new model is quiet too. I would strongly recommend: 1. Don't run HD for music 24/7. No HD would last forever, if you are not listening to music, find out way to turn off HD you are not using. In that way, HD's would last almost forever. 2. Use fan for cooling, don't use passive cooling solution. Heat is hard driver killer! -- Roy2001 Roy2001's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5731 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
I've used a mix of Seagates and Western Digitals over the years, and none have ever failed. Luck, I guess... the fact is, any manufacturer can make a bad drive, but most drives made are fine. So this kind of anecdotal evidence is pretty useless for making an informed decision. Personally, my strategy is to go to Newegg or a similar site with many user reviews and try to select the drive with the highest or one of the highest average ratings. That way you at least have some better statistics, and you're unlikely to buy a lemon. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
About switching to a new digital coax - I'd be very skeptical that that will make the sound less bright... about all it can do is change the jitter spectrum, which can have unpredictable effects if any, but it shouldn't do anything so simple as damp HF. JJZolx Wrote: I've never heard of anyone having to do this, except maybe from damaged discs. Two people extracting tracks from the same pressing of a CD on different computers, with different optical drives, will usually get identical files - every last bit among the tens of millions of bits on a track coming out the same. On glitches, I actually quite often get errors ripping disks. My CDs are mostly scratched to some extent, and my CD drives (I have two; one is a Lite-On) are not particularly high quality. Sometimes EAC reports a suspicious position, and often the checkbit doesn't match the internet (I'd say on around 1/3 of tracks on a typical disk). Also the last track never matches, which I think has something to do with an incorrect read offset setting in EAC. That said, almost none of those glitches make an audible difference, so I don't really care. The fact that most of the time the checkbit matches tells me there's nothing seriously wrong, since even one bit incorrect will mess that up. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
1... Music coming from my hard drive instead of my cdp has proved to be a big improvement...when using foobar, with the SB3 this has been compromised by brightness. 2... But from reading through numerous positive threads here and SB3 reviews in Stereophile amongst others I have to assume that the fault lies in my own systems 'warmth' 3... Foobar was warm and detailed, my cdp was warm but vague and at times bloomy, the SB3 is HIGHLY detailed but at times Harsh and sibilant. 4. modern interconnects are like the tone controls of yesteryear imo, the VDH carbon fibre interconnects will hopefully allow me to keep all this wonderful resolution that the SB3 delivers without the ear frying sibilence. OK..pls Try ripping a cd then click on 'review tracks' Its not that im picking up glitches through listening, rather the EAC program tells me there are glitches. It doesnt seem to matter about the material quality of the CD (scratches, dirt etc). Ive checked and it seems that my CD drive does not have the accurate stream featurecould this be the problem? if so can you recommend a decent drive with this feature? I always use my External Dac and never the analogue outs.. this has been the case with my cdp, foobar2000 and the SB3. Perhaps being english i prefer a more mellow sound man, I chose the Bel canto over the Benchmark 1 for this reason :) Jack. -- Lyonesse Lyonesse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
All this deglitch program does is looking for typical forms in the waveform that may sound like a digital glitch. It can´t tell you it really is a glitch. Try this deglitch with dynamic synthesizer music. It will be fooled all the time and will detect many glitches that really are sharp dynamic sounds. As said before, you may do more harm with deglitching clean rips. It is really meant to use on obvious defect readings. Can you say which soundcard you are using feeding your DAC from the PC, or did i overread this? -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Lyonesse Wrote: Im anxious from reading your post JJZolx that im making a pigs ear of my CD rips! Do you know of a good EAC setup help file for accurate rips? what is your configuration? Do people here really get no glitches?... Yes, people here get no glitches. There's a Wiki entry* for setting up EAC with Accurate Rip. *http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?EACBeginners -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
hi opaqueice :) Im a musician btw with zero technical knowledge when it comes to bits and bobs. Im not knocking the SB3 in any way, I just want to find a way to integrate it into my system better so as to kick back and chillout with my new toy ;) Jack. -- Lyonesse Lyonesse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5496 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Lyonesse Wrote: 4. modern interconnects are like the tone controls of yesteryear imo, the VDH carbon fibre interconnects will hopefully allow me to keep all this wonderful resolution that the SB3 delivers without the ear frying sibilence. There's absolutely no technical support for this conclusion. Digital information just doesn't work that way. Let me try an analogy: Consider sheet music. This is analogous to the original digital information. It's information that can communicate music, but which has a physical form (paper and ink) which is unrelated to the reality of sound. Suppose you make a photocopy of the sheet music (equivalent to sending the digital data across your interconnects). A good photocopy machine will make a nice, crisp copy, while a poor copier will make a blurry copy. You then hand the copy to a pianist to play the music. The pianist is equivalent to your Bel Canto DAC. His eyes and fingers will translate the sheet music into sound. If the sheet music is clean and crisp (as with the good interconnects) he will have no trouble accurately reading the music and the piece will sound as it was intended. In the case of the blurry copy, however, the pianist may occasionally have some trouble reading the music. He might have to stop playing briefly, or randomly play a wrong note, or he might play a note a bit too soon or too late or too loudly or too softly. The errors will be random and entirely unpredictable. The analogy isn't perfect, but it should give you an idea of what's going on. The result of the blurry copy will not be a tone adjustment. It will simply be bad music. In the case of digital, the effects will be *far* more subtle than in my analogy, or you're more likely not to get any sound at all. And, just to be clear, for an interconnect to deliver the equivalent of the blurry copy it would have to be a very, very poor interconnect indeed. I've heard of tests that have even adapted clothes-hangers to act as digital interconnects and not a single bit was dropped over many hours of use. -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
Roy2001 Wrote: 1. Don't run HD for music 24/7. No HD would last forever, if you are not listening to music, find out way to turn off HD you are not using. In that way, HD's would last almost forever. Actually quite the opposite. It's powering up and down which puts the most strain on a drive (and other electrical components) - ever wondered why the _vast_ majority of drive failures happen at boot? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Help...not enjoying my SB3
Jack You don't say where you are, but if you're in the UK you're welcome to listen to my SB+ which I'm confident would address your 'complaints' with the standard SB. On the ripping, if EAC is ripping in secure mode, and it says it has ripped with no erors, you shouldn't have to do anything else to the files. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24613 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Slim Devices NAS Device
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24534 Question: What do you think about the new SD NAS device? - Awesome! Where can I get one? - Nice. I'll put that on my wish list. - Not for me, but it sure is pretty. - Lame idea. Have the SD folks lost their minds? FWIW, I run the Infrant X6 with 2 SB3's and I have been quite happy with the setup. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24534 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
dean blackketter wrote: (My money's on Maxtor, that's the brand I've had the worst experience with.) Yeah, me too. I've had loads of them fail. In fact, that reminds me, I've got an RMA to create ... R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
Nope, not Maxtor, but I don't think we have any of those. As I alluded to in my original post, it's WD. It's surprising to me, because Seagate and WD seemed to have reversed in the last several years, in terms of reliability. -- ezkcdude SB3-Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Looking to buy an intergrated amp and I need help
It's very compact, and is under 2000. The separate versions are getting great reviews. I've got a McCormack DNA .5 and Classe 5 that I've been using for years, and I'm planning on ditching them and getting the bel canto when it comes out (probably the one with the built-in dac, since it isn't much more). -- totoro totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24396 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Hard Drive For Music Quality?
I had very bad experience with early (5 years ago) Maxtor NAS units. They were Windoze NT based and the software failed repeatedly. Not sure about reliability of individual hard drive units though. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
