Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-20 Thread AndyC_772

Machine Dynamica Wrote: 
 Machina Dynamica produces the Clever Little Clock with the kind
 permission of PWB Electronics. 

Hm... there's a clue ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-20 Thread ceejay

P Floding;188495 Wrote: 
 
 Are those testimonials fake? I hope so, at least...

Here's a clue:

On the Clever Little Clock:
I can't believe these things improved the overall sound as much as
they did! Is it resonance control that's lowering the noise floor? I
hear greater detail in quiet passages and better front to back image
definition. Very impressive!! - Glenn, Feb 2007

On the Duplex Covers:
I can't believe these things actually improved the overall sound as
much as they did. Is it resonance control that's lowering the noise
floor? I hear greater detail in quiet passages and better front to back
image definition. Very impressive! - Glenn, Dec 2006

ROFL.

Ceejay


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)

2007-03-20 Thread CardinalFang

seanadams;188912 Wrote: 
 Have you considered the possibility that it is complete nonsense?

I have no time for reviewers most of the time, they are rarely
qualified and mostly self-elected experts, however they do hold a lot
of sway and a review like this damns the Transporter with faint praise.
I personally think that traditional HiFi company DACs with USB input
where the reviewers feel on safer ground will get better reviews. I
also think there is a time window where the Transporter can still make
a mark as a reference component.

Why not invite the reviewers to do the old double-blind test at Slim
HQ? Surely leaving things as they are simply cements the notion that
computer-based audio is still not true HiFi and is allowing the
reviewers to spread misinformed opinion on your products? Perhaps I
have it wrong and it is totally irrelevant to future sales.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-20 Thread killie99

P Floding;188465 Wrote: 
 In my book $40 is a lot!
 I think contact cleaning would do just as well or better than special
 contacs. It's only metal after all.
 
 This is what I got, Superswitch unswitched, ironically:
 
 http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=A441565ts=50002id=75828
 
 About $4.

Personally I found the midrange background accoustic noise floor
ceiling lacking with this wall socket. Much preferred this one
http://www.toolstation.com/search.html?searchstr=10119  :)


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Now, this guy is talking my language!

2007-03-20 Thread killie99

Great site, found it when I was searching for information on replacement
drivers for my Impulse H2's.

http://www.acoustica.org.uk/

The sections on mains stuff is a good read.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source

2007-03-20 Thread zano65

Bob Bressler;188911 Wrote: 
 Jean,
 That card looks like it might be optimized for microphones or at least
 other balanced devices. Is there a way to get S/PDIF out to go to a
 DAC?

there's a way:

AES/EBU to S/PDIF signal level converter

AES out:   2---330 ohm-+-   SPDIF in
|
3--+  91 ohm
||
1--+--+-+-
|
-
ground

The idea for this circuit is taken from articles posted to Usenet News.


you can also find a transformer:
http://www.canare.com/index.cfm?objectid=D56C78F0-4005-A02E-60096D1ACCA27960

but i think this would be interesting only if you had already the
soundcard. 
In the pro world you can find many with S/PDIF outputs: MOTU 828,
M-Audio Audiophile firewire, RME, Digidesign, They use Asio drivers
instead of the Microsoft ones, they don't upsample like usual pc
soundcards. In the M-Audio range you can find cheap models which are
very good. I had the Delta 44 but it had no digital output, that's why
i changed it an took the Marian because the Tact Rcs 2.2 has AES inputs
and i wanted to use them. But for S/PDIF i would have tried M-Audio
audiophile first.
Jean


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)

2007-03-20 Thread opaqueice

CardinalFang;188962 Wrote: 
 
 Why not invite the reviewers to do the old double-blind test at Slim
 HQ? Surely leaving things as they are simply cements the notion that
 computer-based audio is still not true HiFi and is allowing the
 reviewers to spread misinformed opinion on your products? Perhaps I
 have it wrong and it is totally irrelevant to future sales.

Odds are they'd either refuse for fear of being exposed, or blame the
test conditions when they discover they can't hear the difference
between any digital sources.

I suppose you could ask them whether they can tell the difference
first, while sighted, record their answers, and then try it blind.  But
this has been done many times, and the results are always the same, and
it doesn't change anything... they just blame the stress of undergoing
a test for their failure, and go away with their heads still firmly
stuck in the sand (or elsewhere maybe...).

Anyway, as a company selling a high-end audiophile grade product, I'm
not really sure SD (or Logitech) has much to gain from this kind of
debunking, which would only alienate the audiophile community.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Rips and Bit Accuracy

2007-03-20 Thread EliC

probedb;184291 Wrote: 
 If you're ripping with something decent like EAC and use secure ripping
 you're unlikely to get any ripping errors, or none that you can hear
 anyways. If you're using something daft like Burst Mode expect errors
 galore.
 
 Use EAC and you should be fine.

probedb, in case you dont know the new dbpoweramp does support secure
ripping that is arguably better then EAC's secure ripping, and
certainly faster. Plus it has AMG tagging, so you get album art and
better meta data.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread EliC

P Floding;177487 Wrote: 
 Thanks for the tip!
 Configuring EAC to rip to FLAC and AAC at the same time is a b*tch. Any
 idea if that can be done easily with dbpoweramp?
 Rgds

there is a new DSP in testing now that will allow you to encode to
multiple codecs at the same time in dbpoweramp.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread EliC

fred7;180795 Wrote: 
 The new dbPowerAmp with secure ripping has now made this a non issue.
 Also, the tagging and artwork from AMG is great. If there are any
 tagging issues (or no tags in any of the databases) I use MP3Tag.

Sounds like you would be interested in my proposed Tagging Addon for
dBpoweramp:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=12424


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread Kyle

PhilNYC;187890 Wrote: 
 I recently received a pair of these for eval (to decide whether I want
 to become a dealer for them).  Haven't had a chance to hook them up
 yet, but I am eval'ing them on recommendation from an audiophile friend
 of mine who bought a pair for his brother and really liked them...will
 get to them in the next few days...

Phil, I'm curious to hear your opinion of the AE5's.  Have you had a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread Robin Bowes
P Floding wrote:
 mikeruss;177456 Wrote: 
 Hi all

 Just thought I'd let you know I have started using the new release of
 dbpoweramp to rip my cd's to FLAC. It's grat. Easy to use, gets all
 your album covers etc etc.

 http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
 
 Thanks for the tip!
 Configuring EAC to rip to FLAC and AAC at the same time is a b*tch. Any
 idea if that can be done easily with dbpoweramp?

I'm in the process of re-writing flac2mp3 in a more modular fashion so
it should be relatively trivial to add a module to convert to AAC.

Watch this space...

...but don't hold your breath!

R.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-20 Thread bobschneider

I have a pair of Etymotic ER-4Ps, which sound great with my iPod.  The
only downside (besides price) is that they aren't the most comfortable
phones out there.  They're essentially good earplugs with built in
speakers, and so sit pretty tighly in the ear canal.  It's hard to say
how much this will bother you personally until you try them for a
while. I'd reccomend getting a cheaper set of this style headphone, and
see if you're happy with them.

I do still use mine on long flights, but I'll still sometimes use the
Bose noise cancelling headphones some airlines pass out on
international flights, just because they're more comfortable.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread jeffmeh

Robin Bowes;189010 Wrote: 
 P Floding wrote:
  mikeruss;177456 Wrote: 
  Hi all
 
  Just thought I'd let you know I have started using the new release
 of
  dbpoweramp to rip my cd's to FLAC. It's grat. Easy to use, gets
 all
  your album covers etc etc.
 
  http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
  
  Thanks for the tip!
  Configuring EAC to rip to FLAC and AAC at the same time is a b*tch.
 Any
  idea if that can be done easily with dbpoweramp?
 
 I'm in the process of re-writing flac2mp3 in a more modular fashion so
 it should be relatively trivial to add a module to convert to AAC.
 
 Watch this space...
 
 but don't hold your breath!
 
 R.

Ah, flac2x.  Perhaps you could extend it further as x2y.  Then if
x=lead and y=gold we can anoint you head alchemist. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread 325xi

Gosh, Audioengine is a strong trend now... When I looked deeper into
little systems I realized that I'll need as much my time to make the
right choices as I spent for my main system... and I don't have this
kind of resources now and don't expect it for next few months, so my
quest ended up with ordering black Audioengine 5. Let's see if it will
do for the meanwhile.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread Kyle

325xi;189016 Wrote: 
 ... so my quest ended up with ordering black Audioengine 5. Let's see if
 it will do for the meanwhile.

At least you have 30 days to send them back if they don't live up to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread 325xi

Kyle;189018 Wrote: 
 At least you have 30 days to send them back if they don't live up to
 your expectations.

No, I don't. AE doesn't sell direct to Canada, so I limited by terms of
the local reseller.

But they said to be very good, so even if I won't like them in the
office - they're so versatile I'm sure I'll find some other, less
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread Kyle

325xi;189020 Wrote: 
 No, I don't. AE doesn't sell direct to Canada, so I limited by terms of
 the local reseller.
 
 But they said to be very good, so even if I won't like them in the
 office - they're so versatile I'm sure I'll find some other, less
 critical application...

Oops.  Sorry.  Please post your impressions, however.  I love mine
(also black).  I'm listening at work right now.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread mmg_fan

Hi
i''ve gone thru the following 2 tutorials which I recommend to setup
EAC.
http://chrismyden.com/bestmp3guide.php
and
http://users.pandora.be/satcp/eac-qs-en.htm

In the first one there is a required DLL download link (for Windows NT,
XP users) as well as an optional config file and the latter takes you
thru step by step in configuring EAC options and drive configurations.

Since I want to output to lossless format it seems that the only option
is WAV format which EAC natively supports.
But, much to my surprise, the WAV option in EAC in itself has a variety
of codecs to choose from, some of them lossy.
The 2 that seem to be 'high' quality are 
'Microsoft PCM converter'  44.1 kHz/16 Bit.
and
'WindowsMedia' 160 kbps/44 kHz.

My first question is: Which one is 'best' for quality and Slimserver
compatibility?

My second question is are there any DLLs/plugins for EAC that allow
output to other lossless formats, such as Apple Lossless or FLAC?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Lanctot

You didn't see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?EACBeginners ?

It walks you through FLAC setup, which is the best choice for
SlimServer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread mmg_fan

Yes, thanks
but my questions had more to do with using EAC as a ripping app.

Is there a DLL that offers FLAC output for EAC?

I'm hoping that when the next version of OSX is released (next month??)
that itunes will FINALLY support FLAC


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread PhilNYC

Kyle;189004 Wrote: 
 Phil, I'm curious to hear your opinion of the AE5's.  Have you had a
 chance to evaluate?

IMHO, they are very good for what they are...an inexpensive and
convenient way to get decent sound from your iPod.  Compared to other
comparably-priced iPod- or computer-oriented powered speakers, they are
terrific.  From an audiophile perspective, they aren't rushing me to
sell my rig.  They offer a nice tonal balance and very good extension
for a speaker its size.  Most importantly, it's not harsh or bright,
and it's very listenable.  Hard to evaluate it's
imaging/soundstaging/etc, just because I haven't spent a lot of time
dealing with things like placement and such ( I do notice that they do
produce a stereo image with some depth, but am not going to comment on
whether it's pinpoint or anything silly like that)I don't think
most people will be using them on stands and tweaking their placement
much, so I've just been listening to them with them sitting on a
bookcase (although admittedly I've put some cones under them to raise
them off the surface).

Keep in mind that my reference system is in the ball-park of $50K, and
even my small office system is around $5K, so my listening is
accustomed to that kind of sound quality.  I'm certainly not being
blown away by the AE5, but for casual listening, I'm impressed with
what they are doing at their price.

Hope this helps...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-20 Thread PhilNYC

FWIW, I have a pair of Sennheiser PXC 300 noise-cancelling
headphones...and while the noise-cancelling part isn't bad, the sound
quality of the headphones is below average IMHO.  They almost sound
like they have a bad reverb DSP in them...

I also have a pair of Shure e3c in-ear monitors ($179) which don't have
any noise-cancelling processing, but they essentially plug your ears and
are very effective at blocking outside sound.  And they sound terrific!

(for reference, I also have a pair of Grado SR80 ($95) and Beyerdynamic
DT880 ($300), and both are WAY better sound-quality-wise than the PXC
300 and slightly better than the e3C...but both are open/semi-open
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread Robin Bowes
jeffmeh wrote:
 
 Ah, flac2x.  Perhaps you could extend it further as x2y.  Then if
 x=lead and y=gold we can anoint you head alchemist. :)

I do indeed plan to make x2y possible, but I think lead2gold may be a
step too far. Perl is good, but not *that* good!

R.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread Kyle

PhilNYC;189033 Wrote: 
 ... but for casual listening, I'm impressed with what they are doing at
 their price.
 
 Hope this helps...

That's my impression, as well.  I wouldn't expect them to compete with
anything that would be considered audiophile, but I think the offer
great value and performance and compare favorably with anything I've
heard in the sub-$1k range.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Lanctot

mmg_fan;189031 Wrote: 
 Is there a DLL that offers FLAC output for EAC?

You use the command-line FLAC encoder as described in the link.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Now, this guy is talking my language!

2007-03-20 Thread tyler_durden

All the analysis is done on the power line waveform.  There is no
indication of what that waveform causes at the speaker.  Sure it looks
awful, but by the time you run it through a transformer, rectifier, a
bunch of capacitance, and maybe even a voltage regulator, what
difference could it possibly make?

You want to see horrible power waveforms?  Take a look at what comes
out of the rectifier in your power amp.  It doesn't matter if you use a
power regenerator or not.  That waveform is terrible looking.  So
what?!

TD


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-20 Thread pablolie

PhilNYC;189035 Wrote: 
 FWIW, I have a pair of Sennheiser PXC 300 noise-cancelling
 headphones...and while the noise-cancelling part isn't bad, the sound
 quality of the headphones is below average IMHO.  They almost sound
 like they have a bad reverb DSP in them...
 
 I also have a pair of Shure e3c in-ear monitors ($179) which don't have
 any noise-cancelling processing, but they essentially plug your ears and
 are very effective at blocking outside sound.  And they sound terrific!
 
 (for reference, I also have a pair of Grado SR80 ($95) and Beyerdynamic
 DT880 ($300), and both are WAY better sound-quality-wise than the PXC
 300 and slightly better than the e3C...but both are open/semi-open
 design.)...

I have the Sennheiser 250 noise canceling (I'd rather call it
reducing) and agree the sound quality is poor, in fact I have never
taken them on a long flight again because they gave me a headache.

I utterly agree with the little in-ear Shure design - sounds awesome,
and by the way it reduces noise better than most over the ear designs.

If you want an active design, effective noise reduction and don't mind
the bulk of an over-the-ear design, I can recommend the Panasonic
RP-HC300. I use them at work when I don't want to be disturbed, and
they do sound great. basically the give the Bose's a run for their
money at 1/3 of the price.

And my reference is the Grado RS1 - love it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread 325xi

PhilNYC;189033 Wrote: 
 ... but for casual listening, I'm impressed with what they are doing at
 their price.
 
 Hope this helps...

The only thing left is to find whether what they are doing at their
price is good enough for background listening while working, or I'm
better to add up a bit and get some NAD with something like Monitor
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice

2007-03-20 Thread jeffmeh

Robin Bowes;189038 Wrote: 
 jeffmeh wrote:
  
  Ah, flac2x.  Perhaps you could extend it further as x2y.  Then if
  x=lead and y=gold we can anoint you head alchemist. :)
 
 I do indeed plan to make x2y possible, but I think lead2gold may be a
 step too far. Perl is good, but not *that* good!
 
 R.

Come on.  I was going to ask for water2wine, but that would have put
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDTT Download Center Reopened

2007-03-20 Thread HDTT

Our Hi-Rez Download Center is back up and running, we have resolved an
issue with some of our customers were getting partial downloads also we
will be putting up some more of our titles for purchase in the next few
days.
Thanks
Bob
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade

2007-03-20 Thread P Floding

killie99;188967 Wrote: 
 Personally I found the midrange background accoustic noise floor ceiling
 lacking with this wall socket. Much preferred this one
 http://www.toolstation.com/search.html?searchstr=10119  :)

Well, it's even cheaper, so I'd say -go for it!


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread PNCD

The Transporter specifications confuse me as I am unsure what
limitations are upgradeable versus fixed for the future.

I was most surprised and disappointed to learn that TP has a digital
variable analog output.  That did not fit with the audiophile label and
has caused me to retain a pre-amp that I thought I could replace.  There
is no chance that can be upgraded until/if the whole machine goes to
TP2.

What about sample rate support?  The AKM DACs support the 88.2 sample
rate many of us are excited about because of Linn's downloads, but TP
does not.  This is not, so far as I am aware, anything to do with
hardware - input or output.  Could we expect a firmware upgrade or must
we forever destroy the integrity of the Studio Master to get a playable
file?

Less important is the WiFi standard.  Many g network adaptors can be
firm/soft-ware upgraded to Draft-n (Apple did this recently) to provide
more capacity for streaming and more range.  Is this something than can
be upgraded to give us a better bit-stream, especially for higher data
formats on more crowded home networks.

Least important is the Ethernet wire standard that is stuck at 10/100
and misses on Gigabit Ethernet.  There is almost no cost differential
in a built-in Gigabit Ethernet versus the slower ones.

I care most about the 88.2 sample rate and the WiFi Draft-n support. 
As it stands, I will not by the current TP.  Either it will be improved
or I will use a direct PC interface not a Slim appliance.  I currently
use SB3s in two bedrooms, which is just fine a sthey have no abaility
to distinguish the higher quality of higher data rates.  I do now know
whether Slim does any upgrades beyond the software to change firmware
settings.  In fact, I do not know if anyone at Slim actually reads
these message in order to answer .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread Phil Leigh

I think you will find that the 88.2 Linn masters even downsampled to
44.1 / 24-bit sound pretty fantastic and clearly better than the
equivalent 44.1/16-bit CD's (which in themselves sound great!)
I'm sure that 88.2 native support will arrive but I doubt many folks
will notice a real improvement. For me the leap to 24-bit is more
significant (as it was in my studio when I had one...) than the higher
sampling rate. YMMV.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread cliveb

I have comments about a couple of your concerns:

PNCD;189082 Wrote: 
 I was most surprised and disappointed to learn that TP has a digital
 variable analog output.  That did not fit with the audiophile label and
 has caused me to retain a pre-amp that I thought I could replace.
The digital volume control in the Transporter (and Squeezebox) has been
*very* carefully programmed so as to introduce the least possible
degradation of resolution. Indeed, if you're using 16 bit sources (eg.
ripped from CDs), then there is *no* digital degradation whatsoever
until the volume gets below -30dB. There have been a number of threads
on this subject on these forums - try taking a look to see if any of
them reassure you.

The accuracy of the digital volume control in the TP and SB is far
greater than the tracking accuracy of even the most expensive analogue
potentiometer (and I suspect also even the most carefully constructed
resister network stepped attenuator).

FWIW, I use the Transporter's analogue outputs direct into power amps,
and the removal of the preamp from the signal chain resulted in a
significant sound quality improvement. Less is more, as they say.

PNCD;189082 Wrote: 
 Least important is the Ethernet wire standard that is stuck at 10/100
 and misses on Gigabit Ethernet.  There is almost no cost differential
 in a built-in Gigabit Ethernet versus the slower ones.
Even uncompressed 192kHz 24bit stereo has a data rate of only 9.2 Mbps.
So I can't see why gigabit ethernet would ever be useful, let alone
necessary.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones

2007-03-20 Thread hirsch

For flying, the Etymotics ER-4s is the best I've heard.  Isolation is
almost complete.  I've got to take an earpiece out to hear the flight
attendant talking in my ear, and sound is great.  These are not the
most efficient IEM, but the ER-4P version is an easier load for a
player, and provides the same isolation. Some people have comfort
issues with Etymotics, but I do not.

Sonically, the Ultimate Ears UE-10 Pro has the best sonics I've heard
in any IEM, and is better than most full-size headphones.  The UE-10
has to be custom fitted to your ear with a mold taken by an
audiologist, and is a good deal more expensive than the Etymotics.
Despite the custom fit, I get less isolation than I do with the
Etymotics.

My reference headphones are the Sony R10 and Sennheiser Orpheus.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread SuperQ

PNCD;189082 Wrote: 
 Less important is the WiFi standard.  Many g network adaptors can be
 firm/soft-ware upgraded to Draft-n (Apple did this recently) to provide
 more capacity for streaming and more range.  Is this something than can
 be upgraded to give us a better bit-stream, especially for higher data
 formats on more crowded home networks.
The wifi card in the transporter is a mini-pci device.  If price/demand
make the change necessary, SD could offer an 802.11n upgrade.  I'm not
saying they will, 11g provides sufficent bandwidth for several standard
FLAC streams.

Also, why would you want draft support, this stuff is basicaly
throw-away.  If you remember 802.11b+ that some companies like d-link
were selling, this stuff was Draft 802.11g.. but of course the
standard changed between draft and final, and if you have an 11b+
device, it's useless on a 11g-only network.  Software updates aside,
using draft level standards is a bad idea.  Especially for Slim
Devices.

 Least important is the Ethernet wire standard that is stuck at 10/100
 and misses on Gigabit Ethernet.  There is almost no cost differential
 in a built-in Gigabit Ethernet versus the slower ones.
You are missing one thing.  I believe the NIC in the transporter is not
an external chip.  It is built-in to the main Ubicom CPU chip.  There is
no need for gige anyway, even un-compressed audio is fairly low
bandwidth.  FLAC compressed CD audio only needs 0.8-1.0 Mbps.  You
would need 100 Transporters to saturate the slimserver at 100mbit. 
Even if you did that, you could easily run the slimserver with gige,
and the transporters at 100mbit.  Ethernet switches will just take care
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions

2007-03-20 Thread 95bcwh

ErikM;188827 Wrote: 
 Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the
 Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds
 the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00...

LOL!!! Poor Markhh2, your post will not be well-received by some of the
members of this forum. 

Nevertheless I do hear improvement with the Elpac, whether it's worth
the money it's not up to me to tell people.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics

2007-03-20 Thread johann

CardinalFang;188722 Wrote: 
 I'd be really interested how it compares with the Transporter. I have a
 V3 I use with my SB2, but the V8 also has USB inputs, which I read can
 be a better digital source than SPDIF - someone please correct me if
 that's wrong.

I'll make sure to post my findings.

In theory using USB instead of S/PDIF should give better sound but I
think the DAC used for USB in X-DACv8 is limited to 16 bit which is a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-20 Thread sonofcolin


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread 325xi

What would be a really good thing is loop capability - digital out into
external processor for room correction and such, and from there back to
transporter.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-20 Thread 325xi


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sonofcolin;189110 Wrote: 
 Bolder digi mod SB3, Bel Canto DAC3, Bel Canto Ref1000's, Dynaudio
 Contour 3.0 Also Powerbook, itunes -- USB.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Upgradeability

2007-03-20 Thread empty99

The jumper adjustable analog XLR outputs!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread adamslim

mmg_fan;189031 Wrote: 
 Yes, thanks
 but my questions had more to do with using EAC as a ripping app.
 
 Is there a DLL that offers FLAC output for EAC?
 
 I'm hoping that when the next version of OSX is released (next month??)
 that itunes will FINALLY support FLAC

Look at it in a bit more detail.  It is easy to configure EAC to output
FLAC files, which is (I think) what you're looking for.  You get EAC to
call FLAC after each rip automatically, and then you end up with a FLAC
file (with tags) not a nasty WAV.  Read the wiki again.

Meanwhile ditching iTunes is the path to happiness :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread Mitch Harding

Doesn't it create a WAV file in the meantime, and then uses that WAV file as
the input to the flac encoder?

If so, does it then matter which WAV encoder/format/whatever that you
choose, per the question asked by the original poster?

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mmg_fan;189031 Wrote:
 Yes, thanks
 but my questions had more to do with using EAC as a ripping app.

 Is there a DLL that offers FLAC output for EAC?

 I'm hoping that when the next version of OSX is released (next month??)
 that itunes will FINALLY support FLAC

Look at it in a bit more detail.  It is easy to configure EAC to output
FLAC files, which is (I think) what you're looking for.  You get EAC to
call FLAC after each rip automatically, and then you end up with a FLAC
file (with tags) not a nasty WAV.  Read the wiki again.

Meanwhile ditching iTunes is the path to happiness :)

Adam


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread quietdragon

mmg_fan;189031 Wrote: 
 Yes, thanks
 but my questions had more to do with using EAC as a ripping app.
 
 Is there a DLL that offers FLAC output for EAC?
 
 I'm hoping that when the next version of OSX is released (next month??)
 that itunes will FINALLY support FLAC

The key is to have EAC extract to WAV, then invoke FLAC as an external
compressor on completion. Some fundamentals are at:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_and_Flac
http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/EAC/index.html

You will likely also want use AccurateRip. If so, note that you must
select the EAC option Show Status Dialog after Extraction otherwise
AccurateRip will not perform the CRC verfication.

I found this out the hard way :-(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-20 Thread Jetlag


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325xi;189128 Wrote: 
 What are those stands under SB and laptop. Looks terrific to me...
I was about to ask the very same question.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread PhilNYC

325xi;189054 Wrote: 
 The only thing left is to find whether what they are doing at their
 price is good enough for background listening while working, or I'm
 better to add up a bit and get some NAD with something like Monitor
 Audio...


For true background listening in an office, I think they are perfect. 
You do need to get a 3rd party remote control to handle volume and such
if you don't want to get up and do it manually, but at least there are
some 3rd party remotes available.

If you're just listening in the background in an office, with no alone
moments to sit and really listen to music (the way you might do with an
audiophile system at home), I don't see the need to spend the extra to
get a seperate amp and monitors.  It's even good enough IMHO if you're
at home and want something in the living room to have music around when
guests or over or something like that, if you're not really trying to
drive the speakers to loud levels.  Of course, everyone's thresholds
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-03-20 Thread sonofcolin


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325xi;189128 Wrote: 
 What are those stands under SB and laptop. Looks terrific to me...

They're my Harbeth C7 speaker stands :) As the Harbeths are boxed and
ready to be shipped to another apt, I thought I'd make use of the
stands for now. They are made by a US company called Mapleshade and are
made from solid pieces of maple. They are very heavy and do a great job
of supporting the speakers. I think they also look very nice with the
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Positive Feedback

2007-03-20 Thread nuhi

Little geekish but yet another high praise review.
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue30/transporter.htm

Now I'm even more edgy to wait for the ordered T.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread adamslim

At risk of taking the thread off topic (or, perhaps, deeply on-topic),
what do people really want from an office / bedroom / kitchen system?

For the office I use (FLACs on) my iPod with the rubbish supplied
headphones - most of the time I need to hear what is going on, and need
to hear the phone ring.  Occasionally, when I'm deep in code, I need
some Bach, but sadly those moments are getting rarer.  If my payscale
moves the way I want it to, they'll stop altogether soon.  The supplied
headphones are better than my Etymotics as I can hear the hubbub!

My kitchen system sounds nice but inoffensive: NAD 402 tuner, Mind-Da
amp and Harbeth speakers.  I use it for performance on (BBC radio) 3, a
(generally) stunning live classical programme which coincides nicely
with my cooking times.

My computer system (T-Amp into Wharfedale 8.1s) is really used only for
games and TV (my computer is my TV).

I've seen people with decent office systems but I don't know many jobs
that allow you to really get into the music.  For me, an office system
couldn't be that good - I'd never get any work done!  It needs to sound
convincing but not gripping.  My own main system would be totally
inappropriate, as it is the kind of sound that draws you in (rather
than impresses you with its frequency response and dynamics, say).

So my definition of what you need for different environments:
Main system - just bl**dy good :)
Kitchen - 'nice' and top-tapping, fun to chop veg to
Office - just about good enough so it doesn't detract as background

Presumably you just need a bedroom system to pay Barry White, but I'm
married so I don't need one :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Positive Feedback

2007-03-20 Thread crooner

Nice review but I can't help but wonder why he prefers Apple Lossless
and iTunes to manage his music. FLAC is a much better format and iTunes
simply sucks IMHO. 
It's so bad I prefer Rockbox to run my iPod. Full FLAC support as well!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread Bob Bressler

I agree on the main system and kitchen system, but I have the luxury of
having my office in my home.  So for my 'office' system, it is
important to me that the music be somewhat engaging and definitely not
fatiguing.  Sort of a junior main system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-20 Thread P Floding

Skunk;188934 Wrote: 
 Robin was pointing out that you wouldn't be adding anything redundant,
 like sending analog to a receiver that does AD|DSP|DA. 
 
 Adding a benchmark is completely different in that you still only have
 one digital to analog conversion. Also, its marketing material suggests
 any digital redundancy that might be added to the signal would be easily
 overcome. I thought RB made a valid and craftily worded point.

Not sure what you are trying to say.
That SPDIF is problem free?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Positive Feedback

2007-03-20 Thread azinck3

nuhi;189153 Wrote: 
 Little geekish but yet another high praise review.
 http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue30/transporter.htm
 
 Now I'm even more edgy to wait for the ordered T.
 
 Congrats.

Perhaps written by our very own GaryB?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system

2007-03-20 Thread pablolie

My main home system... yeah, that's the shrine to the Gods of Music...

At work, I use headphones for anything music related. I have a
Panasonic RPC300 noise-canceling pair there that is great when it comes
to fulfilling its function of (a) isolating me from the world around me
(people have to be loud or physical); and (b) providing good audio
quality for the 192k MP3s I typically listen to in a work environment.
90% of the time very quietly, and mostly it is either new age relaxing
stuff or classical.

As far as satellite systems in the house go, I have a bunch of CD based
ones. I have historically always created favorites mic CDs that I''
listen to in different satellite systems - car, bedroom, kitchen,
garden, house gym. I plan on gradually buying SBs for all of these
systems, and perhaps upgrade/optimize them in the process where it
makes sense. I do *not* need the type of audiophile quality I have in
my main system in any of those remote places - I just need a sound
quality that is not offensive, and over time decent satellite systems
have come together for the bedroom, garden and the home gym system. The
main system in the living room serves as the ultimate audiophile
system when in fron of it, and also -because of the open area- as the
music server for the kitchen and dining room, all directly linked to
the living room the main system is in. The family room -on the other
side of the kichen- houses the TV and associated entertainment stuff (I
am not a TV person myself, though).

The periphery systems just have to offer solid sounf though, and I plan
on buying 2 SBs and one set of Aduioengine 5s very soon to extend the SS
realm!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)

2007-03-20 Thread Skunk

P Floding;189163 Wrote: 
 Not sure what you are trying to say.
 That SPDIF is problem free?

Only if you underpower the Sb3 to disable the display and analog
circuitry :)

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32398


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Exact Audio Copy and compression options

2007-03-20 Thread amcluesent

If so, does it then matter which WAV encoder/format/whatever that you
choose, per the question asked by the original poster?

As described in the previous links, the critical thing is that EAC is
ripping the CD in Secure Mode.

The OP needs to look at the Wiki here, Myden's guide is all about
ripping to MP3.


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